Episode five oh two, how to Save money on your Electric bill.
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Welcome to the Frugal Friends podcast. My name is Jen, my name is Joe, and today we are talking specifically about your electric bill. Ways that you can get electricity for free, low cost, get a deal on it, or feel good paying for.
It, which is our new method of how we're going about these episodes. We are not looking to the Internet in the same ways that we used to. We're not doing the old Google search and going through an article. We've got our own framework how to get it for free,
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is what we are talking about. If you do want to get some more summer specific episodes, check out episode four to eleven. Want to Budget for this Summer Episode three ozho one Frugal living Tips for from the Great Depression. It's not summer specific or bill specific, but people tend to like that episode. But all right, let's get into a ways to save money on your electric bill.
So the first category that we want to look at is how can you get it for free? This is not going to be for everybody, but like our framework suggests, we want to offer you a way or an understanding of how you can meet these needs at various levels, depending on where you're at currently. So there are programs like lie HEAP stands for Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program that will assist low income households, particularly those who have low income but are paying a high proportion of
their household income towards home energy needs. So this is a program that might just supplement how much money you're paying. There are times, however, where they might pay your entire electric bill through this program. So the guidelines are in a vary state to state, but usually it's around two hundred percent of the poverty guidelines. So if you are one person earning an income living alone, the guidelines would be about thirty one thousand dollars that you're making annually
where you could be eligible for lie HEAP. Two people in a household would be forty two thousand dollars annually a year for people in the household sixty four thousand dollars a year. But you can find what you might be eligible for with your local lie heat program, so you can go to energyhelp dot Us to learn about that one.
Yeah, if you have kids, two or three kids, then this is something definitely to look into. If you're a single income household with multiple kids and your household income is around sixty four thousand dollars or less, definitely head to its energyhelp dot us and see if you qualify for light heap. There's also the Weatherization Assistance Program WOP.
I think they made a song about this one, but it helps low income families improve the energy efficiency of their home and so are there are programs like this that help everyone, and we'll talk about that in a minute, but this one is specifically that it will not just tell you how to improve the energy efficiency, but will actually help you take those steps as well.
I also know that many energy companies themselves will have their own grants and programs, so you can go to whoever your energy provider is directly and see if you might be eligible for discounts or free energy again depending on your need.
Yeah, it's very often most of those programs are like funded by lie heap. But also so they will have separate ones as well. So even if maybe you did not qualify for this one, see if your electric company has any other grants or programs. All right, So the next one is how do we get it for low cost? How do we get our electricity at the lowest cost possible without doing anything illegal or sacrificing quality?
So just plug into your neighbors.
Yeah right, No, that's not what we're talking about. So I see on the internet a lot of all kinds of recommendations, and this is kind of where we're going to debunk some of those and tell you where you're going to get the most bang for your buck. So one thing I see recommended a lot is getting energy efficient appliances that will help you pay less for your energy bill. And so I think that is from doing research on how much your appliances actually contribute to your
energy bill. It's full stop, pointless. If you have an appliance that works, if it is not energy efficient, keep with it, because you will you will spend more money upgrading than you will save on your energy bill. The place where you're going to get the biggest bank for your buck is your air conditioning and your heating or your furnace, And so that's really what we're going to hone in on the rest of the episode. That uses
about fifty percent of your total energy cost. The second highest is at fourteen percent, and that's your water heater. So if you're going to focus on two things, it's going to be your HVAC and potentially your water heater only if you really need to. Everything else is kind of superfluous when we're talking about saving on your electric bill. You can want energy efficient appliances, you can want a
new appliance. Sure they're all energy efficient at this point, but you're getting a new appliance to get a new appliance, not to save money on your energy bill.
If you're already in the market for a new appliance, then great, that's just an added bonus. And to kind of think about what's going to be like I know, for us when we went from a duct system to mini splits, that significantly reduced our overall cost. Of course, it would be super expensive if your whole system wasn't broken already to switch to mini splits. I think we got quoted at one point seventeen thousand dollars for just
like half of our house. So to your point, that wouldn't have actually saved us money to make that switch, just to make it, but our condenser was broken. We did need a new system, so it's like, all right, we might as well upgrade to something that's going to be energy efficient for the long term. It's also worth looking at whether or not there's rebates. I think we're going to talk about that at another point, but there can be reasons to replace for the sake of replacing
if there's rebates being offered. Yeah, but back to focusing on what takes the most of our energy, that being your ac, your heating, then we want to be looking at insulating and air ceiling our homes. So and this has even been corroborated by my husband, who has worked in construction for many, many years, and he has worked
tirelessly to insulate our home. And I think it's so ridiculous some of the measures that he takes, but he's like, this is the number one way that heat or ac escapes the home and the number one way bugs also get into your home. So there's a double WHAMMYE reason for making sure that the house is as sealed as possible. One of the things that you can do to figure out where you might be losing the most of your energy is by doing a free energy audit through your
energy provider. So I know for us, Jen, I've done this, Eric and I have gotten the free energy audit through Duke who was our local supplier, and was really shocked by the level of service that they provided that they actually care to help us reduce our energy bill and then ended up giving us something in the mail to help reduce some of our energy costs, both on water usage as well as on electric usage, like probably fifty to seventy five dollars worth of things that they gave
us to be able to install throughout our home to be able to reduce our energy. So look at this for whoever your energy is. Energy provider is see if they'll do a free energy audit for you.
And if they won't, if they send you to a private energy company, it's not a scam. That company is probably subsidized buy your city. Your energy provider is subsidized by your city to do these energy audits. It benefits the city, so they subsidize it. So if you're like, is it a scam? No, of course they're going to try and push you to buy something, whether it's a private company or they're going to offer rebates from the energy provider to get kickbacks from a company to do
the insulation and air ceiling for you. But you don't have to go with a company. There are things you can do yourself. And this is an example where if you need to buy some weather stripping or if you need to buy something in order to be more energy efficient, these are the things you want to be buying, not the energy efficient appliances.
Yeah, so where you might see the most energy loss is in the attic if there isn't any insulation, or the insulation is going bad, is missing in certain parts, if you've got leaks in your duct work, windows for sure, doors for sure, even checking your thermostat settings. So the lower barrier to entry would be absolutely your windows and doors, making sure that you don't see any light coming through some of the cracks in there, or if you can kind of feel with your hand where you might be
getting drafts. So that's where cock window ceiler can come in. Even the plastic weather stripping like you already mentioned for those of you in the north during the winter, even putting plastic over your windows. You know you're not going to be opening the windows, so getting one of those like plastic windows ceiling kits can be worth it to
be able to keep the heat in. And then of course checking your thermostat settings, making sure that you're not overdoing it, but also that you're allowing your areas where you are living to be monitored by the temperature that you want it, but allowing a few degrees difference in maybe some of the rooms that you're not currently utilizing.
Yeah, and then if you're going to buy an appliance, well, if you're going to upgrade, so we talk about sinking funds. You should always have a sinking fund for repair, maintenance, upgrades, stuff like that. So saving for your AC or furnace
like replacement. If you know you're going to need a whole new system, like Jill died, start figuring out whether it's best to go with the with the standard that has been in most houses, the central system, or if it might behoove you to go to a mini split system. And there's also di you can get it done professionally, but you can get mister cool offers DIY mini split installation kits, so you can do that.
That is what we went with. That's what we were able to do our whole house for I want to say, eight thousand.
Dollars, three bedroom, two bath.
Uh huh. So compared to the seventeen thousand dollars quote we got from a company to do it for us, eight thousand dollars was far better for it. But of course we had we did have to do it ourselves. It does take a little bit of no how, but there are plenty of YouTube videos out there.
Yeah, and you should have a friend in the HVAC industry who can help you if the free on goes a little hey wired, because not everyone will repair those.
Systems, right.
And then a tankless water heater, so a gas powered one if you're in the North. If you're in the South, you can go gas or electric.
Yeah, tankless doesn't totally work in the North, but we love it here in the South. It saves until the moony.
Yeah.
All right, now we're onto a d How do we get a deal on this electric that we're paying for? So, of course, when it comes to insulating, sealing up our homes. Definitely look for rebates that might be offered to you from that free energy check that you ended up doing. Not only might they give you some free stuff. They gave us some weather stripping in that little package that they sent to us afterwards, but they also alerted us to if you were to replace these windows, we would cover,
you know, fifty percent of the cost of that. I also know in a lot of places this is more to do with water usage, but to use it as an example, many cities might offer rebates on replacing your toilets, making it absolutely free. You know, you guys did that, and replacing old toilets that are going to use far less water and to get a free toilet totally worth it. So check into what rebates might exist when it comes
to tankless water heaters. Check Black Friday sales. Water heaters are more likely to break in the winter, so that could be a time to consider replacing them kind of when Black Friday comes around.
Yeah, because if your water heater breaks in the winter, you don't have time to search sales and to get a deal, right, So if you know this is the season when most water heater break, then you'll want to be looking for these deals in the summer, the fall, stuff like that, so be prepared so that you don't have to pay more in a crisis. Next is the time of use discount from your energy company. Most energy companies offer this. I didn't even realize we had it
in our area. I thought this was some kind of special thing that other people had, but no, we have it too, and it is deaf inconvenient times. So you would have to be doing your you know, most of your so like running your washer and your dryer and your dishwasher in the middle of the night essentially. So if you have one of those washer dryers that can switch automatically from washing to drying, this is a great thing. Just set it up to run in the middle of
the night. So I actually called Duke and wanted to know if it would benefit me to change to this, and they were so good in walking me through. They walked me through on I was on my laptop and they told me where to go so that I can see, this is my energy usage. This is what I'm paying for killowater, whatever unit of energy. This is what it would change to if I went to time of day discount program. It would increase the price per use during
peak hours and then decrease it during off hours. So what I decided for me is that when I looked and it even did the math for me, they're like, this is what you're paying now, this is what you would pay with the same habits if you got time of use discount, and I would pay more, but obviously I would change my habits. But then I was thinking, actually, with the kids and everything, I don't really want to change my habits. So I think I'm just going to
stay with what I have. But look it up, see how it would change for you, and really consider if you could change your habits. If you work nights, if you're a night owl or super early like you've got one of those four am wake up routines or something, check it out, do the math and see if it will work for you.
Yeah, if you're not someone who's always cranking your AC or your heat, you know, through the evenings, or if you've got one of those newer washer dryers where you can tell it to start you don't even have to be awake, but do a delay start on at least one of those cycles. I think it could be worth it. Then, there is a thing called energy Wise Home, and this is something that can help, particularly when it comes to people who have a pool or a tankless water or is it tank or tankless water heater.
It's regular regular water heater and AC, but I think it really helps people with pools. That's where I'm thinking this will have the most benefits.
So it's kind of it's an automation that you can add to your system that will cycle your pool, pump, your water heater, your AC on and off automatic to reduce usage in peak times so that you can get up to one hundred and fifty dollars in rebates. So if you've got these types of systems in your home, this is definitely something to consider that you don't even have to be a part of the process. It will do it for you and you just got the one time installation and then set it and forget it.
Yeah. I think if you're in a temperate climate like California, or you have a pool, or you have a tank water heater, I wouldn't do this with a tankless but definitely it's an energy wise home search that put it ask chat gpt if the program because it's a trademarked program, So this isn't just like a duke thing, but see if it's available in your area. More often than not, something like it is going to be. It's just a little thing that they install that's cycles the power on
and off without your consent. So again something that I looked at and I was like, I don't have a pool, I don't have a tank water heater. I do not want them to turn my AC on and off at their leisure for whenever they feel like it, So it wasn't the right move for us.
Final category is how do we pay for electricity guilt free? And I do think some of this has to do with making sure that our usage is really buttoned up, that we are not being wasteful or over consuming our electric usage. So I do think it's worth kind of going through these first three categories, raining in how we are engaging with our usage, being sure that when we're out of the house for the majority of the day, our AC isn't pumping sixty six degrees, like we're not
leaving the doors and windows open. We are being aware of how much we're taking.
But if you are somebody who likes your AC sixty six degrees when you're home? How can you do that guilt free? And so the thing we think for this is we're looking at the servicing and the services we get around our electric items, mainly our HVAC, but all of our appliances. Really how can we pay How can we save money and pay for that guilt free too? And so I'll let you in on a little stat Private equity investors have purchased nearly eight hundred HVAC, plumbing
and electrical companies since twenty twenty two. In three years, private equity investors have purchased nearly eight hundred HVAC, plumbing and election companies. And what these private equity companies do is they go in, they clean house, raise prices, repaint the sign on the on the front door, make it look you know, a little less CD. And then every dollar you use in that company now leaves most of
it leaves your community. Whereas when it was just the CDHVAC company, most of that money stayed in your community, not C, not CD. But you know, you know what it looks like. You're like, I don't know if I can trust Jed the HVAC gun, right.
But Jed's been doing it for thirty years.
Right and Jed, if you've just got to know him, he is legit, but he retired and nobody wanted to buy his business except for the private equity companies. So you'll be able to tell you know, the private equity back companies, they're very polished, they've got money, but the money goes to them, not your community local companies. They may not have the signs, may not be as shiny, the colors may not be as bright, or maybe they're
too bright. But I'll also say when you go with a local company, you don't sacrifice quality to buy local, and you usually save money when you go with local companies. So that's how we believe that you can save money on your electric bill. Guilt free is when you need
these appliances serviced, you go with locally owned companies. So what you can do is get your recommendations from your friends, go about how you would normally do, go search, narrow it down to a couple companies, and then you can actually ask chat GPT are these companies backed by private equity and chat GPT will tell you, which is an amazing thing because before AI you would have to pay for that answer from a company called pitch Book which
details and tracks data of private equity deals so you don't have to You don't have to pay for that anymore, which is amazing. You can ask chat GPT and it will tell you if the company is publicly traded or backed by private equity. You have to answer. You have to ask those questions either separately or differentiate and you'll and you can find out quickly. So yeah, find out, take the time and go with a company that, yes, is you know, well rated but local.
So to recap. If you are looking for ways to get your electric for free and you are low income, can to lie heap look into Weatherization Assistance Program WAP for short. If you're looking for low cost or a deal, go directly to your energy provider, ask for ask for an overview of your energy usage and maybe areas where you might be leaking, and you can do some of these things to make your home more energy efficient. Focus on what is taking up the majority of your energy,
right it doesn't. You don't need to be worried about unplugging things that aren't in use or absolutely turning off every single light everywhere. Of course, we do want to be you know, utilizing like led wherever possible when they need to be replaced. But take take a look at your ac heating, your water heater. These are the things that are going to be taking up the most. Do some of these audits and do some of these simple maintenance things around your home in order to not be
heating and cooling the entire neighborhood. And then spend guilt free by supporting local companies and knowing that your energy usage is enough where it should be for you and your family's needs.
Absolutely, you know what else is there for my family's needs. And it doesn't help us save money on anything, but it does really make us feel good.
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Okay, what's the highest your electric bill has ever been?
Yeah, I changed the question.
You did change the question. I don't have an answer for it.
The other question was what do you spend the most a mount on your electric bill? And we kind of already answered that, like everybody spends the most on heating an AC.
You're so right, Okay, you go first and I'll look it up.
Okay, mine at one point was So I'll preface this by saying we live in a three bed, two path fourteen hundred square feet, not a large large home home, not not the tiniest either. We did at one point live in one hundred and seventy five square feet. So instead it's a burger from that. And our electric bill got up to three hundred and fifty dollars, which is a lot for us. Yeah, normally we sit around to
thirty two fifty, so this was quite quite a shocker. However, we go in spurts of our I mean, our electric bill fluctuates throughout the year, as I think most people's does, because our heating and AC is on electric, but certainly through renovations using a lot of power tools, we would
see an increase in our electric bill. But I remember that it might have even been three seventy Honestly, it was when we had a month where we had guests in our house literally every weekend, and Eric's parents were parked in their RV at our house, and in any spare time that we had we were doing renovations. So power tools so reasonable for how much we were doing, but it still was a little gut punch.
Yes, okay, ours August of twenty twenty three where we were doing renovations, for sure, we had renters in the back, so we actually started that in June of twenty twenty three, so that would have been our first for a right at the beginning three seventy seven, and we kind of just had three months back to back two seventy two, three seventy two, three seventy seven, three forty seven, And this is July August September. That is just what July August September looks like because it's all a c and
this house is just an older it. The walls in most of the house are not insulated and we did not want to open them up to insulate them. So we opened up the walls in our bedroom and in the bathrooms and those got insulated. So any while we did open that was exterior did get insulated, but a lot of them did not. And then the windows just so this month it's like one wow, I see one twenty. April of last year was one twenty, even with guests in the back, one nineteen. Yeah, because the first, yeah,
one twenty we had because it's just airy. We open windows, we enjoy outside and the AC doesn't run. So yeah, yeah, so we make up for it. We pay, you know, those summer months guilt free because during the winter.
We just.
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Jen. I just had, like I just I just had a core memory. I just had one of the best experiences of my life recently.
Tell me about it.
I thought you were going to know automatically. So Eric and I went to Cleveland, Ohio, the exotic Cleveland where my sister lives. She has four children, and we spent like a long weekend there hanging out with all the kiddos. And when we were out, one of the children, Lydia, who is the only girl, asks myself and Eric, can I come home with you guys? And we were like, h it was her spring break, so she had the rest of the week off and we were like, we
don't see why not. And then she asked her parents and they were like, yeah, we can make that work. And what a dream to just last minute, spontaneously be able to say yes, you can come back with us, spend five days in Florida with us, and I mean we still had work to do, but she was able to come to the office and we went to the beach in the afternoon.
She was probably our quietest employee. Yeah, she was the best definitely best behave employee all week.
Yeah, she's ten. She kept herself busy with reading books and coloring and some fun videos and it was literally so fun, so cool that it was able to happen. But also side story with this, because she is a miner.
We had to also then take her back to Cleveland, and she wasn't comfortable flying by herself, understandable, so while her parents purchased her ticket, her round trip ticket down to us, we got a ticket to be able to go back with her on a Sunday, and I was planning on doing this, flying her back to Cleveland, walking her out to the car to see her mom, turning right back around, getting on a plane home, and we
plan for this. Then we come into the office one day and I look at my calendar and I realized that you and I have a book event for by What You Love Without Going Broke. There was a local bookstore doing a book club on our book and they
invited us to go. Two months in advance to this event has been on the calendar for two months, but in my excited stupor of booking the flight making sure that Lydia could come down to Florida with us without her parents and enjoy her spring break here just ride out the dome, totally forgot I got the dome booked ticket for myself, and then we remember. I'm like, oh no, so what I was able to relatively easily change it to be from me to Eric for him to take
her back. So bless him for doing a six hour kind of round trip fly to Cleveland, fly back in the matter of a few hours. But so that had happened, and you knew about it, like you did not book a ticket to fly to Ohio for this thing that we've had planned for two months, and I'm like, I totally did, as my bad. So then I get there that Sunday morning to our book event and I'm fifteen minutes early.
And usually you beat me places you are. I am typically punctual, meaning like right on time, and Jen, you are usually early by like ten to fifteen minutes, so I was surprised to not see you there. So I'm like, I'm just going to shoot her a text like I'm here and glad I did because you show up a little later saying I totally forgot that we had this event. So we both took our turns in forgetting about this book event that we had. But you know what, we both showed up.
We got up on time, and none nobody was the wiser.
That we that both of us almost didn't show up, and.
It was such a great event, like it was wonderful.
We've been saying that it does take the two of us that like our two brains combined makes one hundred and fifty percent brain. Like you bring seventy five, I bring seventy five, and it's more than enough.
It's more, it's more than enough.
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