How to Save Money on a Kitchen Remodel with DeLancey Carson | DIY Kitchen Renovation Tips!

Episode five oh six, How to Save money on a kitchen remodel with Delancy Carson.

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We apparently love doing We love it.

We've never stopped renovating in the last three or four years, just always renovating. So what we do over haul renovations, and not everybody can do an overhaul renovation. So Delancey actually helps women just hey, ditch the fear of power tools so that they can do more DIY friendly renovations in their homes, so transforming outdated spaces to things that they love with out blowing the budget. So we have

Let's do it.

Delancy, Welcome to the Frugal Friends podcast. We're so excited to have you here.

Thank you so much for having me on. I am so frugal and so this is right up by Ali.

We've noticed, Yeah, you do some really amazing renovations for low cost and a lot of times when people do that for low costs, you can see it you can really sell. But yours look really great. So I'm excited to hear what you have to say.

I love frugal, but like high impact, so that is what all of my renovations are. They're like, how can I spend the least amount of money and make this look the most different awesome?

Yeah, And we like to say we're frugal not cheap. So absolutely we like to save money, but we bougie, so we like to look good and we like our things to look good and be good quality. Yeah all right, So our first question is what do people waste the most money on? And where should you not? So I guess it's two questions. What do people waste the most money on? And then what are those things?

Like?

What are the things that are not a waste? What should they not skimp on?

This is such a good question. So I actually think that the thing that people waste money on is they don't start like a DIY project with the end in mind. So sometimes we get so distracted by the little things that we forget to take into account the whole picture. So like, if you're making over your kitchen, you need to have a vision of what is this all going to look like together? Because if you don't, if you just start with like ooh, I would like green cabinets

I think part of that issue comes from I hear so many people say, oh, I can ever picture something at the end, you know, Like my husband and I have done renovations on literally every place we've ever owned, and that's one of the number one comments that we get is, man, how did you guys imagine this from the beginning? I just can't see it, Like when I'm

Yeah, And in fact, that's such a good point too. You're talking about your husband, because I think mood boards are the exact way to explain your project ahead of time to your husband who cannot read your mind. And

Oh?

Actually, look, a lot of these islands have a wood tone. Is it a dark wood tone or a light wood tone? And you can kind of see Pinterest is so good about showing you things that go together well. And so once you can kind of start seeing the common thread through all of the things that your eye is drawn to,

Yeah, I think that's such a good tip. And I think where AI could be useful is that once you've found that mood board and you're trying to find a similar thing or even identical, uploading that and being like, hey find this where I can buy this online?

Yeah? I think also AI would is great for like adding a couple more things. It's not really good at like generating the whole project. But I think if you could say, hey, I want cream cabinets, and I want a colored backsplash, and I want a wood tone island. What else am I missing? Then AI could totally be like, you know what you need? You need a statement island lights over your island. And you'd be like, oh, I do need island lights. You're right, I wonder what color

Response yes, okay, and then what is that thing people shouldn't be skimping on.

Oh man, see I I okay, see. So I've done a couple of bathroom remodels as well, and a couple of regrets I have is so bathrooms sometimes you have to take it to the studs, right, If you're going to be taking something to the studs, I do think it's worth to splurge on things that you will love. I wish I had added that radiant heating under the floor of our bathroom because our bathroom is like on the side of the house and it gets the coldest.

Yeah. So it sounds like it's going to be individualized for each person on like what's the luxury item that you really think is going to like elevate the way you're going to use the space?

And yes, And I think figuring out what that luxury item is to you a lot For me, A lot of it is functionality, like I don't want cold feet, but like so I'll skimp in other areas to be able to splurge on. So, if you want marble countertops, great lovely marble countertops, are there ways that you can save if you don't care about what the backsplash is pure marble or if it's ceramic, you could save in other ways and then splurge on the items that you truly do love.

Yeah, I mean it sounds a lot like how we approach meal planning and creating our spending plan. Like we're not going to know. We're not going to get to where we're going if we don't know where we want to go. So having some of these ideas ahead of time, creating the mood board, knowing having a really good vision.

Yes, I've done five budget kitchen remodels in the past four years because I love making over kitchens because it does have such an impact because we are in our kitchens all day every day, and we see it all day every day, and the functionality of a kitchen is so important. So the biggest bangs for your buck, I

I agree, that's where we got all of our appliances from and saved a ton of money, especially if you need kind of all new appliances as well. And even as you're mentioning with the pool for the oven, those are the types of things that are easily replaceable. You can search for parts and you know, maybe get those brand new. But if it allows you to save one thousand dollars on the appliance itself, then worth it.

That is so true. Actually looked up how much it was cost to replace the poll and it was like fifty dollars And I didn't care fifty dollars worth, but I could, like, if I want to in the future, I can go buy the fifty dollars handle and replace it.

Okay, I want to know all about painting cabinets because I've heard horror stories of people painting cabinets and the paint chips, it peels. Cabinets are so utilized in a space they need to be durable. So what do we do? What do we look for and what do we not do? How do we paint cabinets?

Well, I say, do not chalk paint them. That was a huge trend for a while people just slap in chalk paint on stuff. I think it works if you have kind of more rustic feel. So if you have like a rustic kind of farmhouse and you like the chippy look, go for it absolutely. But if you want a modern repainted kitchen, I do not advise chalk paint. But all of these cab paint companies have developed really good cabinet paints now. Benjamin Moore Advance is the one

I will add taking all of the doors off and obviously the cabinet the drawer fronts off and labeling them before, like having a way of labeling them, because I also have alreadydone tons of kitchens and painted cabinets and every single one of them, and that was one of the things I learned the hard way on one of the first three models is that not every cabinet is the same, and the way the yeah and the ways that sometimes it's like chiseled out for the hardware is very specific

And before you paint if you're doing different cabinet like poles, which is why the board is so important. Yeah, before you get started. Then if you're going from like one to two or from two to one, like screw wood filler, like before you paint, so that you don't have to worry about that. Yeah, that is a big thing I've used.

I'd be curious what tool you use, delancey, but like a foam roller too, I found to be really helpful with painting cabinet so that you get that really sleek, kind of brushless finish on it. So sometimes the tools you use make a difference as well.

Oh yeah, what kind of so true do you use? I like to.

I like to roll the cabinet bases. Actually, you have found a quarter inch soft nap works better than a pham roller for me with the kind of paints that I usually use. So I like the quarter inch soft naps to roll, and obviously the brush for like the tiny corner, and then the cabinet doors since you're gonna take them off anyways, I actually advise spraying them. There's like a sixty dollars sprayer on Amazon that's worth its

Oh, especially if you have any of those like fancy whatever on the wood cabinets. They're all like, you know, I don't know what it's called, but you can't see me because I'm doing this weight with my hands.

But that's like phil agree or whatever.

They free.

You're like, yeah, just super fancy, yeah exactly, Like you could probably get away with just rolling it. But yeah, some of especially the ones from the eighties and nineties, they were a little bit more elaborate, So those it's so much easier to spray.

I did also, and this was maybe a bit of a regret now painted already painted cabinets, so I stripped the paint oho of the cabin To talk about prep work. If you've already got painted cabinets and they weren't painted well, I mean, and you don't want to spend the money on paying somebody like it is worth it, but goodness,

Right, if they were like original, of course you could also if you had that kind of thing where like someone did a terrible job last time. There's also you could also just get new doors. If your frames are still secure and strong and like they're going great, you can just buy new doors. You can go to home

Yeah, I love that middle of the road option for people. Yeah, it's not a full gut, but is absolutely a visual upgrade.

And I think that's where people get stuck so often is we see these shows on TV where people gut their kitchen and then they spend one hundred thousand dollars to rebuild it. But that's not most people's life. Most people don't want to live through a renovation like that. They don't want to kitch like cook in the dining

Yeah. I think it is really appealing too to be able to say I can do this myself. Because when we can cut the labor costs, I mean that's a good majority of what a lot of these renovations cost. So when we can find the types of things we can do that we are capable of doing, then even better. So speaking of some of those things, I'd be curious what you've seen that people can actually diy where they wouldn't have thought that they could. We've kind of talked

I like encouraging women to learn how to tile, So tiling is one of my favorite ways to data space. I have tile in my launchy room and my kitchen and obviously bathrooms, but also in my dining room as an accent wall. I love the power of tile, and people think it's hard until I show them the videos of my three year old daughter tiling, and then they're like, oh, huh, okay, maybe if your three year old can tile, then I

Now you know, where do you find your tile like affordably and how do you go about like deciding backsplas.

That's a good point because tiles can range from a dollar a square foot to fifty dollars a square foot, right, so you could you could you could go either way. I usually I love Florida Core, I love home Depot for tile, I like the tile shop all of those. I do prefer to see my tile in person, so I have not had great luck of just like seeing

Fun fact, we got our backsplash on Facebook Marketplace. We didn't have a lot. We had like just one portion of the wall for the backsplash. Not a lot, so we could have gone with something you know, new, wouldn't have been that expensive, but because it was so little, like people will sell leftovers from their jobs and it's not a high quantity, but I think we got two

Yeah.

There's also a lot of places that will have like renovation stores like Restore. Yeah, like recarch community. Oh yeah, your Humanity has a place called Restore usually most most states are going to have that. So even being able to go and and check there first is kind of

We love all of the hat And again I'll go back to your point on the mood board. It's make sure you're buying in alignment with that and not just because you can get it secondhand or a deal, because that's how you waste money. You get a de something, you get something on sale or secondhand, and.

Then you have to work around it whether you love it or.

Not, and then you don't know or you just have that stuff and you buy the new stuff anyway. Yeah, and you've wasted the money on the sale stuff.

Speaking of wasted money, I'm curious what you've seen are some of the common mistakes people make that end up costing them more in the long run, Like maybe things that they thought would have been a good idea but actually aren't. Like where are we seeing some of the poor decision making with kitchen renos.

The good news is is that I haven't found many people who've regretted their kitchen renouts, like I haven't found many people who've done it themselves. I've talked to a lot of people who have hired out a kitchen reno, and they regret different aspects. But the people that I talk to the millions of women that have done their own kitchen reno, they don't regret pieces of it because I think when you're do at yourself, you're kind of

I think that that's the biggest barrier for people is kind of assuming like oh, I don't know how to do that. It's like, well, no one knew how to do that before they learned, Like you're saying, right, everything is learnable and skills are buildable now whether or not you have the time to want to learn or build

And it's all on YouTube.

It's literally all on YouTube everything you could ever want to know by people who are electricians, by people who are plumbers, right. Gone are the days where you had to have an apprentice to learn how to, you know, learn how to be a tiler. You can go and learn on YouTube. But the thing is so YouTube has access to all of the tutorials you could ever want, so you can you can bring in information all day long, but the thing that makes you better is doing it

Yeah, there you go. That's the biggest mistake people make is just not starting.

Yeah, so there's putting it off.

There's one other category of a kitchen runner that we've not covered yet, and that is countertops, and this is it can be an expensive one. What would you say for somebody who's like, Okay, I think I can tackle all of these things, but what I really hate is my countertops. What can be done?

Eighties lambin It chipping countertops.

Yes, oh my goodness. All of my houses have had eighties lamin and kitchen auto tops. So I think you get to decide. This is one of those like personal decision things. I am fine with lamb At countertops. So when I redid my kitchen, I got new lambin At countertops because I had little kids and who were gonna spill red kool aid, and I am not a marble kind of person, like my kids would ruin it right away. I didn't want the upkeep like, I just didn't, so

We've also had success on getting remnants from places like we've hired out countertops, but there's been times where the amount of countertop we need is not that large, and so we're able to shop their remnants. Section so this would be leftovers from other jobs that were done for a fraction of the cost. Again, you're not guaranteed that it's got to be all possible that they would have the piece that you need.

Yeah, well, how do you feel about butcher block?

I love butcher block. I have butcher block in my pantry. It's not like I don't know if I would cut on it, like I wouldn't use it as butcher block. I think it, you know, because it's what right. So like and have my children spilt kool aid on my butcher block countertop in the pantry? Yes, yes they have. But the nice thing about butcher block is you just sand it off and then reseal it. You seal it with like a butcher block oil. So I think it's a great option. A lot of people get stressed out

Yeah. I think so often we are renovating with resale in mind, and to an extent, that is a good thing if you are living in your house to resell it, Like we just renovated a house to resell it, so we renovated it for resale. If you are in your forever home, then you don't have to think about the next buyers. You just think about you, baby girl.

And I really think that even because like, yeah, why are you designing for some potential future buyer who you have no idea what this person wants. So I think, if you're going to be in your home for the next three years, you do it how you want it. Yeah.

I thought of one more thing, and this is the last thing. I promise, flooring. If somebody wants to change out the flooring in their kitchen, what's your go to and what.

Do you mean my going is always? My go to is always Lambin at floors or not lamin like LVP Luxury vinyl plank, just because they're easy to install, beginner friendly. They can go over a subfloor, they can go over tile, they can go over if you have like a sixties kitchen with that linoleum, it can go over linoleum. I

Yeah, that's what we use. Do you have a preference on your LVP or like a thickness or a brand or something.

I do say, don't get the cheapest, Like you don't have to get the most expensive that's like ten dollars a square foot, but like, don't get the one dollar, get get the middle of the road.

I think we went with the ten millimeter thickness and we did the three milimeter padding underneath. So those are like they're nice. I would say those those are.

If you're on a slab, you do have to have like the underlayment. Yeah, we're on waterproofing something. Yeah, so you do need to make sure and that's one of those things that like, yes, that's the kind of thing that you want to make sure you're doing the steps

Oh wait, I have one more question too. How much do you think so if someone's like, Okay, I'm feeling inspired, I might be able to do my own kitchen myself, what should they anticipate as far as tool costs because your average person might not have all of the things to be able.

Yeah, and there's rental tools, yes, but like, yeah, total costs, that's a good one.

Tools you will need, I mean yeah, it depends on how like if you're just painting your cabinets by the sixty dollars spray er and a couple of rollers, right, if you're building something to add to it, like you will, or if you're if you have to cut down lambin at countertops yourself, you will need some tools. But it's not going to be terrible. I mean five hundred dollars maybe of tools. It's not like you need some giant

Yeah, And those there are things that you could always find used on Facebook marketplace. You always resell them if you need to buy them new. And it's just good to have a power drill always. Man, you never you never have to get carpal tunnel in your wrist again.

But for some of these things, like the wet saw, you could also rent from like home depot or see if you can borrow it from a friend or there are also tool libraries, yes, in different cities.

Cities have them, yes.

Yes, in Saint Pete we have one. You can rent out tools.

Oh that's amazing, they're so Surely there is surely a dude somewhere that you can rent all borrow all these tools because he bought them all and he usual and he's he.

Might be able to rent the dude too, you know, dune.

But you could definitely borrow his tools because he has them because they are his trophies. And I know this because I live with this. Dude.

Do you know what's my trophy? And I will live with every single day?

With the week your resell the of the week.

That's right, it's time for the best minute of your entire week. Maybe a baby was born and his name is Williams. Maybe you've paid off your mortgage. Maybe your car died and you're happy to not have to pay that bill anymore. That bills Buffalo bills, Bill Clinton, this is the bill of the week.

Oh wow, I just heard an echo in my headphones. What a treat, all right, Delancey. Every week we invite our listeners and our guests to share with us their bill for the week, and we look forward to hearing you.

Oh man. Okay, so my bill of the week has to be shout out to the Bill who is on my Facebook group, who likes to every time I post something, he likes to tell me all the things I did wrong, and he likes to be the guy that's like, actually it's not a crow bar. It's actually called a pride bar. But shout out to Bill, because for every one Bill, I have ten katies who are like ignore him. He's being ridiculous. This is what I needed to see. So shut up, Bill, because this is amazing.

Oh gosh, he is in there purely demand's blain.

Oh my goodness. Facebook is a cesspool of man's blaining.

I mean, anytime that you're getting into something traditionally may you're gonna have them want to come and tell you how you're doing it.

He has all of his trophies, his tools around that he probably doesn't use, but they are trophies.

And he's too proud that he knows how to do it. But the fact that now women are learning how to do it it makes him feel less special.

And I don't because you're using the tools more than he is.

And but I'm not doing it for you, Bill, I'm doing it for Katie.

Man.

Usually when we get a person named Bill, Bill is usually the salt of the earth.

Yeah, this time around, Bill, he's the salt in myle.

You gotta just calm down. You need to calm down, Bill, And hats off to you Delancy for still doing it because you know that it's just going to bring a ton of haters.

Or just for not blocking him.

How he hime out of the group It's true.

I only block them if they get super rude. But the thing is this that, like I think sadly women are just used to it, Like we realize that when we put something out there that there will be haters. But the good news is that, like there's so many women who are loving it that it way makes up for all the haters.

Yeah, so true. All right, well that's fun. Glad you're doing it for Katie. If you all listening and have a bill that you want to submit, if it has to do with Bill being a bad bill and we need to we need to kick him out of the group, or if it's a bill that you don't mind paying, or a good bill. Bill's out here being a bigger all En encouragement for friendspodcast dot com slash Bill. We can't wait to hear it. And now it's time for.

All right. It's that time of the episode where we all answer a very vulnerable question and we always have our guests go first.

Oh, all right, super vulnerable.

Okay, what's a small appliance or gadget you use in your kitchen that you think is very under rated that people.

Are like, uh, why do you have that?

What a waste, and if it feels too vulnerable to answer, we can you can ask us to move on to the next question. So there's no other question, this is it?

I okay, So I'm a mom, so like, obviously I have to say an air frier. But you know what I was thinking, is actually my most used random part of my kitchen. I got the stove that has the flat top surface griddle in the middle, and I use that every single day. I because you don't have to get out a pan so grilled cheese. You just throw the bread on that little griddle and then like you wash it like at night or something, but like you

I love that answer, sir. I love that answer.

That is I think a helpful one too, for anybody potentially shopping for a range of what what kind do I even want? How will it serve me to kind of think about the types of things you enjoy cooking And if.

You have a stove and you don't want to get another one with a griddle, they make griddles that you can put over your burners. It turns it into a griddle.

Four burners like you don't you don't mean all four burners going at the same time, like never except on like Thanksgiving, So like yeah, like leave on is a griddle?

Mm hmm, all right for me? It's an electric can opener.

Wow, I know crazy, I know I did.

So Travis got this at a thrift store or somewhere and I was like, what a waste, like get a regular can opener like a rail man.

And so we have used this.

I mean I do. I primarily cook, and I use this all the time. And now when I do have to use a regular can opener, I'm like, oh, carble tunnel.

Honestly, I never thought that I've had like arthritis or carporal tunnel until I open a can manually. It like morphs your hands and ways you're not.

We have to hands.

Cannot you do it.

Electric can openers. We've become fragile women.

It's so funny. I was laughing at this, But now to think the last time I opened a can, I was like.

Why does this hurt so hot? Like I'm putting, I've got the stance and I'm over it, and it's had like an entire body movement to open a can.

Wow, you're convincing me it is underrated.

Wow.

I mean yeah, it's just a little, you know, a little electrically pleasing. Man.

I love that. Okay for me, I'm gonna go with some old school, ancient ancient pieces here mortar and pestle.

Where are you from the eighteen hundred?

Yes, no, I'm from fourteenth ninety two. I think it's nice. First of all, out on it is partiful. I love a good mortar and pestle out. Also, it is good to like grind up herbs and spices. I don't I don't always cook with fresh herbs, but one on new mortar and pestle, and it really does elevate the dish. Garlic, and I also use well which one is the mortar, which is the pestle? The hand thing?

I think that's the pestle.

Yeah, I will tenderize my chicken with that.

That.

Wow, I mean I cover the chicken right. So I'm not like going raw chicken to fresh herbs when raw with it, But I can, like it's really heavy and I can bang out that chicken. So multipurpose, you know. I love form and function, and I get both.

That's beautiful. That is Delancey. Thank you so much for coming on the show. Thank you for just like responding to my email even though you thought it was spam.

I did think it was spam.

Hello here, So true. I have for seven years been reaching out to guests because we very very rarely will take a guest submission. I always like to go out and find guests. But there it's hit or miss on whether I get a response because there's a lot of spam out there. So where can our listeners find the real you? Where are your socials and where can they just get more of your DIY kitchen red.

Yeah, if you go to more dot delancydiy dot com, you can find all about and I'm Delancy DIY on all of the socials.

Perfect cool, and we'll link to that in the show notes. Thanks so much for being here with us.

Thank you.

I am so grateful that we did not talk about painting your countertops.

I we were over them.

I was afraid that that was going to be where the conversation might go. We have the ability to edit, but it didn't go there because Delancey Delancy gives the goods.

Actually gave good tips tile seriously and when she said I put tile in a random room in my house, I was like, I don't know. Actually then I saw it on her Instagram at Delancey dot diy and it looks legit. Yeah, so like, maybe I'm not in love with Tyle enough to do that, But it's the major hitters. The heavy hitters are more accessible than you might think. Yeah, and so you can really redo a kitchen without knocking down walls, open it up for very little money, and

Oh, I'm so this is it? Thrilled to hear that this is what we were going for, what we wanted it so cool. When you hear you did do it, you at least did it for Katie Joe.

I promise I did not read this, I write this. I am not Katie Joe.

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Okay Jen. Yes, what is a power tool or no even maybe just like a skill, a reno skill that you built throughout your renovations that like surprised you, that like you didn't think you would would ever do or never even knew that it would be a thing you were doing.

I mean, laying flooring, putting up tile using power tools.

I am not.

Handy. I'm not DIY girl. I don't like DIY.

I do not do that.

I don't enjoy it. So I was forced into so much of this and yeah, there's skills I don't want to have that I do now not really have, but I did do them. Travis did so much. I helped him carry fencing yesterday and that was miserable. I hated that. How about you, Jill?

Yeah, oh, I mean, yeah, all of it. I suppose I am. I'm the I'm the cock girl. You are you? I am cock queen.

I never cocked. I didn't, I didn't do any cocking.

Yeah. All of the.

Finish work is my responsibility, and it's a skill that I've built. Now over years, I mean, Eric and I have renovated every place we've ever lived. I actually was surprised to realize I've actually renovated as I think a few more kitchens than Delancey has.

I know, you were like, why are you bringing in a renovation expert. I'm a renovation expert.

I was like, you are not this kind of no, no, no, I am not, and I yeah, I don't have the platform that she has. I've not like recorded all of the renovations that we've ever done, but yeah, we've done a lot, and through that time, I've built like the finishing skills. Eric hates painting, absolutely hates it. Turns out I'm good at it, so I do get to a point where I feel so done with it. I wouldn't say that, like I love it, but I don't hate it to the same degree that he does.

There are some areas in our house that I just didn't finish painting, and I know where they are and I can see them. Leave it for the next person to solve that, and that's the next families problem. Not nine.

But I used a hammer drill, I think for the first time. This is a new thing for me, a new tool this past weekend. Wow, And that was both amazing, both one of my favorite experiences and exhausting.

Yeah, Travis bought this big. It's the size of a trash can drill. The thickness is like the size of my head. And he bought it for doing the fence. And I actually held on to that baby, and I was like, I could I could do damage with this, yeah, and I don't want to, so please let me put it down. And uh, yeah, that was one of those things he bought and he's planning to He didn't actually use it a lot, so he might return it, but

Know I don't have marketing. I don't want marketing skills and I do have it, and you're forcing it on me.

I know.

I'm sorry, but it's so more people like get the message.

It's gonna be good for you.