How to Reduce Moving Costs

the show about reducing moving costs. Because we didn't think this was a super relevant, not relevant topic, we didn't realize how important it was to you guys until you guys kept requesting this one. So here it is for you. Y'all are moving a lot, I know, right, I mean I do too, so I can't really say much. I'm done moving. I was excited when I saw this in the outline because I do feel like a bit of

a professional. I have moved eight times in the last eight years, so you may or may not want advice from me, depending on how you're looking at that. But yeah, I've gotten it down to a science, so I'm excited to talk about it today. Yeah, this is for sure a Jill episode, but first let us thank our sponsors. Yes, today's episode is also brought to you by pizza. It's the frugal compensation to bribe friends into helping you move

instead of hiring professionals. And if you do it right, you may even be able to get someone helping you move to buy the pizza. There's nothing more frugal than that pizza. It's what's for dinner if you're helping someone move. Yes, it's so true. You can at least count on a meal if you help someone move, and that meal is likely going to be pizza if it has ever been something else. I'd love to hear that, because I don't know. Yeah, I think plenty of people, well hogs, I think you're

from Pennsylvania. Nobody in Florida does hokey some sub sandwiches on moving day. I feel like I was a part of a moving day. Also, I couldn't name names because I forget, not because I'm trying to protect somebody. I think someone had like a casse role of some sort on moving day. They had like frozen up cast rolls and like it as like, dang it, I really wanted pizza. What's with these mashed potatoes? So just know if you're moving, that's our first tip of the day. Don't you dare

defrost get a pizza? What a good Yeah, used a one first though. Alright, So our first article that we are going to dive into today is from Moversville and it is forty two clever ways to save money on your next move. Jill, you liked quite a few of these I did. I just want to make that we didn't miss anything. Here's the thing, it's a good list. There's a lot of things on there related to hiring a moving company, which, mind you, I have never done that.

We're not opposed to people doing that, and we will talk that's our second article. We're gonna talk about it. Don't worry, we will talk about that. And a lot of these tips are kind of repeats, but yes, there's some good content in here that we're going to go over. Yeah. So my first one that I liked on this one is number two actually, and it is to make everything you have in your pantry, freezer and refrigerator because you don't always think about using the things that you have

in your house to actually save money on moving. But how many times have you gotten to moving day and thrown out a bunch of stuff in your fridge and you know you're going to be moving, so you have enough typically have enough time to use a lot of those condiments and stuff. So this is just another case for like doing a pantry challenge and trying to use up especially those condiments that are in the door of

your fridge. I think that's kind of the most important thing, because we forget how much those specialty condiments that actually sit there the longest, what they cost. But you can definitely save money using that up and just don't have food waste. That's a big way to save money well, and I will also say be careful about wasting, especially if you're not moving super far or out of state. You can absolutely pack up condiments into a cooler and take it with you and put it right into the

fridge at your new spot. I think I see a lot of people when we help others move just kind of throw everything out and then two hours later they find themselves at the grocery storey stocking and like buying all the things all over again. So even just being wise about what you're going to use up and what you can just take with you. This isn't like a final thing you're going to eat again and probably five hours. But it is cathartic sometimes to just get rid of

old stuff and start fresh. So if that's you, I mean, I recommend definitely bring the stuff with you. But if you want to start fresh, then definitely try and use everything before you move. It is a nice time to get rid of expired things too, things you didn't even realize we're sitting in your fridge. You're never gonna eat, all right, So I kind of want to take this in some sections. I think that you've got your pre move items you can be engaging in, you've got your

packing up phase, you've got your moving day phase. So from the onset, when you have your sights on moving, Number four on this list is start as early as possible. I think sometimes we know way ahead of time that we're moving. Sometimes it happens in a super last minute fashion. But wherever possible, really start early when we're planned full and proactive versus reactive. That is when we have opportunity to save the most money and be as intentional in

this process as possible. And so one of the ways that you can do that is then moving into number one. This toss donate cell thing kind of what we discuss when we go through and simplify or minimize or edit our homes. That this is that only to just a really large scale, because you're gonna be touching everything in your house if you're packing everything up yourself, which I do suggest so making piles even in different rooms throughout your home as you go so that this doesn't all

happen in one shot. I can't tell you how many people who are very novice movers wait until like the weekend before they move to start their process. And I just can't stress enough. If you know that you're moving in the month two months, start now going through your house and putting things in this toss donate cell pile,

and especially the cell pile. If you can start getting rid of things that you don't want or need and make a little bit of money, that is going to help immensely that you can then put that money towards purchases that need to be made in the move. A move will cost you money. It's really hard to avoid spending money in a variety of different ways. And so part of this is preparation, prepare, for it, budget for it, try to make extra money where you can so that

you can afford it. I love number one the like get rid of stuff, because really the biggest way that you can save on moving is to move less stuff. The less stuff you have to move, the cheaper it's going to be either in your time or your money. And it makes me think of the minimalists. Ryan Nicodemus, he became a minimalist by packing up everything in his home. His co host and co conspirator helped him pack up everything into boxes so extreme, and he only took out

what he needed. Whenever he needed something, he'd take it out of the box, and if he didn't use it or notice it or need it, you know, for however, many months he got rid of everything that was still in boxes. So this is a great thing to do. It's very unfeasible for most people, but if you are going to be moving anyway, to start really early, box everything up and then as you go just take out things as you use them. That way, by the time you move, you're taking more boxes to the thrift store

than you are in your moving truck. So I think this is a great way. If that's something you've been thinking about doing, and you can start early. It's a really good social experiment. I think it's extreme, for sure, but a good idea if you're about to move, and pair that with an understanding of where you're moving to and what you'll need. This isn't just about downsizing and minimizing if that then means you're going to get to your new spot and feel like you need to repurchase everything.

So kind of pairing those two concepts together because it can be exhilarating to just get rid of stuff, but then you get to your new place and it's like, oh, I do need those shelves, and I do need that couch and that chair, so um, I consider all of those things. But speaking of boxes, I think even just packing supply is can be expensive. If we're trying again this is a last minute versus being prepared. If we've got time to look for. This is number six on

the list. Look for some of these packing supplies on let go offer up certainly Facebook Marketplace, but also are buy nothing groups. So whether that's in the community that you are moving out of or the community that you are moving to, get onto their buy nothing groups and ask for some of these packing supplies or necessities that you need as you're preparing to move or once you've moved. I will also add that wine and liquor stores often have free boxes as they unpack all of their bottles.

They I know pretty much that's that's my go to every time I've moved, is to just go to the local wine store. Asked them about boxes. Sometimes they'll tell you when they're getting the next shipment and when they'll have a whole new load of box, says. So that's another way that you can kind of keep and collect some of those packing supplies without spending money on it. And while we're talking about packing up, number nine on the list recommends using your linen's, sheets, towels, things like

that to protect some of your fragile items. So rather than needing to purchase some of the packing materials that would keep your fragile items safe, just utilize what you already have from those Yeah, the linens that you have, or paper towel and toilet paper rolls kind of shoved in between stuff. So we can definitely get creative here. We don't need to buy all of the brand new items to do this with. And oftentimes on Facebook Marketplace

or buy nothing groups. You'll find people who have just moved and are getting rid of all of their leftover stuff. So I've never had a time where I've had to actually purchase these packing supplies. I'm always able to find them free using those tips. I've find them a lot on Facebook Marketplace, but also the next door app. I love that one for finding boxes and moving stuff. But yeah, if you live near a Total Wine, their boxes are right up front, all the wine boxes, and they have

a ton of them. So if you are near a Total Wine and More, you can go right in UM and ask for some of those boxes. And they are great size to like. Sometimes we want to get these bigger boxes to hold more, but they are not easy to carry, so you have to think about getting various sizes of boxes, not all small, not all big, but getting various sizes also number ten on here. Second, we're

just so obsessed with boxes on this episode. They're so important packing a necessities box, and this can keep us from spending last minute money just because we can't find things that we need on moving day. So keeping track of what you use on a daily basis and having an entire box just dedicated to the things that you're gonna want quick access to within the first couple of days of moving. So I'll just give a quick rundown of some things that I've learned in this process of essentials.

Certainly all the things that you would utilize in a bathroom, so shampoos, conditioners, personal hygiene products, toilet paper, paper, towels, cleaning products. Usually when you move into a new place, that's one of the first things you want to do is clean So having cleaning products easily accessible with all of the things that you need from rags to the actual cleaning products, and then you want to think through

what you're going to need immediately upon moving in. Some low hanging fruit from my experience has been betting and curtains. Usually when you move in, that's like the last thing that you think about is like all the windows, but if the person before didn't leave that it's one of the first things that's needed in a house is hanging up something to cover the windows, whether for privacy or for light reasons. So definitely make those accessible as well

so that you can have a comfortable first night. Yeah, there are things that you can be on the lookout for on buy Nothing groups and Facebook marketplace too. You know how important they'll be. You probably know how many windows there will be in so you can start to look for these things. Because when we shop out of emergency or needing something immediately, that's when we pay higher prices.

So if you give yourself time and start to think, Okay, what are the things I think I'll need as soon as I get in, then you can start to prepare for them in advance, and then you can have the time to get them second hand, or the time to get a deal or a cupe on and even ask a friend maybe who has just recently moved, what they wish they would have done, or something that they learned in the process. There's probably so many tips when it's

fresh in someone's mind. Absolutely. I like also how this article outlined just some ways to move some of your more obscure or fragile or bulky items. Certainly as it relates to electronics, specifically TVs, they recommended using the original TV box if you still have it, which I'm mentioning this as a plug for a reason to keep your TV box. I am a minimalist. For us, we did

this because we move so often. I'm not going to say that this is something that you should do if you own a home and you're not moving in the foreseeable future. But if you are in an apartment and you just recently got a new TV you're thinking about it. They keep those things in mind as you purchase some of these more bulky things. Okay, if I need to move this, how this would be something to hold onto.

So for Eric's music equipment or TVs, we've held onto some of the boxes that provide the very specific type of padding and packaging to keep those more expensive items safe in the moving process. You saw my face when I saw this, when I was like, um, again, We've moved eight times in eight years, so I'm highlighting where I have found like, yes, because otherwise, if you're hiring a moving company, they're probably going to charge you to

package up those more expensive items. You're going to have to buy things that are going to keep it safe. So it is something to keep in mind. Um that isn't often thought about, which is yeah, why I want to give that tip. Yeah, but I will enter a caveat to that if you are the type of person that still owns the box to your iPhone, or maybe just the last iPhone you had, Today's the day to throw it away. Today is that days because the iPhone can go in your back pocket on moving day, Today

is the day to throw that away. Just repeat after me. Today is the day to throw that away. And got that the one thing you get out of this episode. Anyways, I'm just gonna let you keep going because you have all of the good ones. I have a few, but

like I'll just you know Adam at the end. Yeah, I think the more logistical pieces of making sure that you cancel subscriptions and bill pay and all of the things that are going to come to your one address to a new address, and that can be a simple option just with USPS changing your address to your new address, but also making sure that you're canceling these things that you're not getting billed for a time that you weren't using, whether it's cable or electric or water or any other

kind of subscription based bill. Take some time to do that. Whether that's in the evening before you move or or a weekend doesn't matter. But make sure that this is set aside time time where you can kind of go through all of these items and take them off that that's going to save you money. Yeah, and that kind of goes along with number twenty six is it says

cancel cable and get a new service. But really this can be for internet to like, we don't have cable, but we do have internet, and this is a great time to take advantage of new customer discounts or negotiate lower prices with your internet provider or anything specifically for your home. That is what we did when we moved

into our new home. Instead of going with the provider we were still with, we were like, hey, we have to set up new internet anyways, we might as well get the you know, pit these companies against each other to get the lowest price. That's how we're honestly able to keep our prices so low on internet because we have to service providers. So don't take that for granted because some people only have one available to them. If there are multiple options in your area, you should definitely

be utilizing that to your advantage. Yeah, that's a good one. Only other one that I said I thought was helpful was number twelve, which is get help from family and friends, which is what we always do. Yeah. Absolutely, that's kind of an obvious one, but yeah, I am a big

advocate for doing a move yourself. I get it that their circumstances where it's worth it to spend the money higher a mover, and a lot of times, especially if it's a move for job reasons, oftentimes businesses and organizations will pay for their employees to get a mover and we'll cover a lot of the moving costs. So blessings on you if that's your circumstance, and absolutely take advantage

of that. But if that's not your circumstance, Yeah, tell your friends and family ahead of time and get their help and feed them and then maybe donate some things to them. Let them take your condiments that you didn't end up using or like, Yeah, exactly, that's another bonus, all right. So if you cannot get family and friends to help you move, then you're going to have to hire movers. And so our next article is actually from Wildcat Movers and it's six ways to save money hiring movers.

And I thought these were all really good, so I think we should go through all of them. Sounds good to pick it off. So the first one is be prepared to move before the movers arrive. A lot of times you are paying hourly for these services, so the most that you can do to limit the hours that they work will save you money. So they say, this may seem like a no brainer, but a decent percentage of our customers are not fully packed and organized when

we arrive at their home. And this is actually I have experienced this because moving day comes and I think that I'm ready, and then I realized as I start moving, oh my god, there's so many things I forgot. So like, put yourself in the mind of like, am I ready to put these things on the truck and move, and just do as much as possible to get those things ready before movers show up, not while they're trying to move,

because they're fast and they will lap. You give yourself one extra weekend beyond what you think you need, and even live in your home you're in currently as if you're ready for the movers to come. I think sometimes we push things off until the last minute because we think, well, I still need access to these things. But I would say no, just live out of your essentials box and bare bones in your home just so you can absolutely

be prepared for moving day. Number two on the list is to make sure that the movers are licensed and ensured. This seems like a no brainer, but absolutely this is a necessity oftentimes because things do get broken and damaged within a move, and if you're moving company is licensed and insured, they will cover the cost of that item or the cost of repairing that item. I know my sister has often paid for mover. Her husband's company has paid for movers. This is why I know this, and

they're expensive. Washing machine got broken in the process, but thankfully their movers were licensed and insured and they were able to cover the cost of that repair and didn't have to come out of their pockets. So this is a really important one um when trusting some of your larger items to a company. Number three is to organize

boxes by size. I never thought about this one, but they say it's an easy way to save time and money with hourly movers because when you stack the smalls on the smalls and the mediums on the mediums and so on, it makes it more efficient for the movers to get in there instead act So they say, we hear wildcat movers stack four small boxes per stack, three medium boxes per stack, and that's the maximum that fits in there. On their dollies so look at a dolly and kind of see what would fit on a dolly.

Make your stacks like that. I'm going to say number four, but then I think both three and four are useful for even if you're not hiring movers, but to close and tape the box tops. This also seems like a weird tip, but again I think we'd be surprised at how often we're Again, we're just not fully prepared. We don't have everything fully boxed up taped up, and movers will charge again, as you said, Jen, like by the hour, so if they need to be spending time taping and

finishing up your work, it's going to cost you. And I will add to this too, even if we're moving our own selves, we're not hiring a company. I think both of these tips are really valuable. And if I could even an ad making sure that all of our things are into a square or rectangle box with a lid. A lot of times will try and kind of throw some oddly shaped items into a bin, but then there's no real lid on them, so then they can't be stacked.

So then that ends up with taking extra trips because you can't stack things on top of each other because they don't have lids. Because stuff is just thrown into laundry baskets. That's not what we want as much as possible getting things into whether it be plastic bins or boxes with lids that can close and tape up. It makes the process go much more efficiently to be able to stack it well high and deep in the trap or the yup. These are my these are my moving words. Yeah,

so whoever's moving, these are good tips. Yeah, definitely. And then number five is too disassemble and assemble your own beds. This makes me triggers my memory of another thing. If you want to also save time, make sure every box is labeled on which room it goes in, and then the rooms are actually labeled with paper before the movers

get there. So if you have living room on a box, there better be a sign that says living room, so those end up in your living room and not your sitting room or your office or goes in Billy's room. There better be a sign on on over the door that says Billy's room. So so we don't have to tell anybody where to go, they just know where to go.

We did this one cleaning up after my friend's wedding, there was signs on the floor of where everything was supposed to be piled, and nobody had to ask questions because they saw where everything needs to go and it went so fast. Same concept, and so disassemble and assemble your own beds. Make sure those are labeled like which bedroom they go in. But don't make the movers disassemd will and assemble them. Do that yourself because it takes

a lot of time. I have actually sold a bed frame like last year, and I was very shocked at how much time it took to disassemble that. Oh it's no joke, no, and so that's just wasted time. Make sure it's disassembled before the movers get there, and then don't make them assemble it. Just do it yourself. And I'm gonna add some pro tips. I'm self proclaiming them.

Pro tips. When you take the mattress off of the bed, take a picture of the bed because sometimes all of the pieces don't make any kind of sense, so you've got a picture of what it looks like when it's assembled. And then keep all of the items to each bed with that bed, so meaning have a ziplock baggy for the screws and all of the different attachments and label it for that bed and tape it up with all of the things that go with that bed. It saves a world of headache and trying to figure out where

those screws, nuts, bolts, you name it went to. Keeping it all together in one will help. And I would also recommend this be one of the first things you do upon arriving into your new home is to put a friend on building the bed, or you do it yourself and put friends on moving all the boxes. That will also help for just getting settled in day of So another organizing tip that will save a headache absolutely. And then number six is disconnect and reconnect your own

washer and dryer. So if you are moving this, I know not everybody does move their washer and dryer, but if you do, doing this yourself can help save money rather than having the movers do it. So all you need, as this article says, is a pair of vice gripts and a screwdriver. Watch some YouTube videos and do this project yourself. Save yourself money. Yeah, and they say the dryers even more simple than the washer, so don't be

afraid of it. And I think the moral of the story is the biggest ways you're going to save money on moving is to reduce the amount of things you have to move and reduce the time it takes four movers to move you if you are hiring them, I think those are the places where you get the most bang for your back. And then also to utilize things like buy nothing groups, next Door, Facebook, Marketplace, Craigslist for packing supplies. Start earlier than you think, you need to

start earlier than you think. Yeah, it does take way more time. The last time I moved, I was doing it's so fast that I made myself sick, like I was in my my first night in my new house, like sick as a dog. I did miss work the next day. So it will get you for sure. And anyone who's moved recently kind of firm that that final closet that you think hardly has anything in it is gonna and it's going to take five minutes to get packed up is probably the longest part of the entire

moving process. Like rooms just have way more in them than you think that they do, and there's not as much room in boxes for things as we think that there are. Oh my gosh, Yes, And I've never heard anyone say I moved, and I was really shocked at how few things I had That never ever happens, except for when Eric and I are able to fit all of our belongings in an eight by twelve trailer. But that's another story. You're different, Yeah, you know what else

is another story? My favorite story. The we Be's right. It's time for the best minute of your entire week. Maybe a baby was born and his name is William. Maybe you've paid off your mortgage. Maybe your car died and you're happy to not have to pay that bill anymore. That's bills, Buffalo bills, Bill Clinton, this is the bill of the week. Hey Jen and Jill, this is Page

calling from Raleigh, North Carolina with my favorite bill. So. I used to have a really tight grocery budget and I could stick to it when shopping on my own, but occasionally my husband likes to tag along on my weekly grocery trip and he adds all kinds of treats and impulse buys to the cart. This would drive me absolutely crazy and also totally bust the budget. But I

finally came to my senses. I married an amazing guy who hardly spends any money, so I finally bumped up the budget and once a month he gets to buy all the snacks, kombucha and organic granola that he wants. My favorite bill is the extra big grocery bill that keeps my husband happy and keeps me sane. Oh my gosh, Page, I feel you on such a real level. I have

goose bumps. Actually, I found that to be a really sweet bill of the week, and I feel like that captures the essence of frugality that we budget and we save where we can to be able to spend on our values and to value your husband's well being and happiness and opportunity to get some of the things that

he likes. Amazing, Page, what a great bill of the week. Absolutely, yeah, I felt like you were telling my story and yeah it is really I mean, and honestly, we both benefit when Travis brings home goodies like Impulse spies from the grocery store. So it's a win win for all of us. And I love that you have a similar story. Oh, thank you so much for sharing. Page. Yes, if you have a bill that you want to submit, whether it's a bill that you don't mind paying because it makes

a loved one happy or something completely different. Feel free to visit Frugal Friends podcast dot com slash bill leave us your bill, yes and we will listen to it. And now it's time for the round. Today we are sharing our personal moving stories and Jill is going to share more tips. I don't have more tips for you, but I do have a horror story that I would like everyone to cringe with me on and so you can be like, oh my gosh, at least that didn't happen to me. I want to give that to you,

so Happy Friday. Here's my cringe worthy story. So when we moved from our apartment or it was like a duplex into our home that we purchased that we currently live in, my mom convinced me to let my half brother move us. Jill, did you know I have a half brother? I have two half brothers. When I was reading this, I'm like, I didn't know about this. I don't know how well because I don't talk about them.

One I've never met and the other one is completely unreliable, like he's been in and out of my life just a little bit during childhood. So I don't talk about them until the entire world because against my better judgment. She convinced me to let my half brother move us because he drives a moving track, and I was like, okay, sometimes my mom gets these ideas and you just have

to go with them. And on moving day, he never showed up because that's him, and so she scrambled to find someone on the fly to move our big items because at this time Travis did not have a truck, and so we were just having friends like we were calling in reinforcements of friends to help, and I was very stressed and very angry. I was angry more at

myself for not trusting myself. And thankfully a very good friend of the family came and helped and asked for nothing in return, and he was just a fantastic human being. But it was a very difficult time. It was a difficult time for my mom and I his relationship, and

because I stressed myself out so much. That is so stressful the day of moving to be anticipating and relying on somebody and they don't show up, and it's like usually there is a time crunch, right as it relates, one day ends when at lease begins, there's not a whole lot of wiggle room there. So if you don't, if your plan doesn't happen the way it needs to happen, that is cringe worthy. Yeah. I think we had friends that helped us move, and I think that was the

last time we ever saw them. I don't think we've seen them since they helped us. Did you not feed them? Maybe? I I think we did. I'm pretty sure we did. And I don't know what you could have done wrong. I don't know if you've had them pizza. What else is there? I don't know. But it was a rough night. It went well into the night. I'm glad that you're through that time. Jen. I hope, I hope you can still recover. Well, I'm I'm I don't plan on moving

for many, many more years. So that's my that's the goal. That's the solution to that problem. Perfect. And when I asked you if you had any moving horror stories, you were like, no, I just I am a great mover. I don't know. And to be fair, the Lightning Round was gonna be frugal, gone cheap, moving like horror stories, and I'm like, I don't have anything that specifically falls into that category. I mean, maybe my horror story is

just how much shive moves. I'm not saying that I want to do it regularly, but I am pretty good at it. So that's why Jill is sharing tips on the lightning round and Jen is sharing horror story. Yeah, you know these tips are just going to be all over the place, But for those of you who are moving, I think you'll like this. So when moving clothes, everyone wants to talk about like wardrobes and like special boxes

and all this stuff. Skip that trash bags. Cut a hole in the bottom of it, over a bunch of hangars, tie it at the bottom, and then you've just got like bags of clothes but that are still on the hangars that can go right into the next closet. Rip off the bag. Done zo, Okay, thanks, Next thing. If you're in between moving yourself or hiring movers, you really want to move yourself, but you don't have a truck, you don't get any friends with trucks, consider renting a truck.

You can absolutely get a U haul from you Haul or trucks from home, de boatloads, you name it. That is a really great middle ground of being able to do it yourself and cut some costs. I also want to speak to you people who are moving out of state. And while that almost could probably be a whole other episode, I'm just going to mention something here on that that is a whole other piece. And I will say, budget for this as much as possible. It is going to

cost money. So just prepare yourself mentally that traveling is going to cost money, not having all of the help that you might be able to have in your own community because you're moving out of state. So and then not to mention all of the costs associated with transferring over licenses and registration and you name it, plan for it. Most states have on their website what you need if you're moving into that state, and kind of a rundown of what the different costs are going to be. So

look that up. Get your bearings on how my hi, it's going to cost a transfer a lot of these things. Um, then prepare yourself also with that. Again, if you're trying to do that without hiring a moving company, it is a bit more difficult. But I would say, and this is a bit out of the box, but you know

that I like these ideas. If you happen to have a vehicle that can haul I would say to consider purchasing an enclosed trailer, used and closed trailer that you can utilize for your own things, take that to the place that you're moving, and once you've arrived, sell it. So that is a way that you can kind of almost break even if you're able to find a decent enclosed trailer, use it for your purposes, sell it again, or keep it if you find that there's more uses

for it for you. But that could be an interesting alternative. One other thing that I want to say, just from my own counseling perspective, moves are super stressful. It's one of the most stressful things that we go through in life. I apparently love it and I do it all the time, and so there's like this like morbid attachment to it.

But please recognize that this is a massive transition. Whether you're moving from your house you're in now down the road, or you're moving from the house here and now to a completely different state or even country, recognize as a big transition. It comes with stress. It will bring out increased tension and relationships, routine will go out the window.

Kids will probably be overwhelming for at least a couple of months, just because transition brings stress, so plan for that as much as you're also planning and budgeting and preparing in some logistical ways. I would also say to buffer yourself in some emotional and relational ways, from setting aside time to be able to cross things off your list, to also being able to just get out of this space of packing up and get some fresh air. Do some things that are going to be helpful for your

mental health and permission for yourself. That you are going through a really stressful time, whether or not you can actually recognize it or not, it is um and so our capacities might be a little bit more limited. So an awareness of that can help us in our own understanding of self and the story that we tell ourselves in that process. Such good tips. Those are very insightful. And we're not on any of our lists. Yeah, I mean, feel free to pick my brain hang out in the

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