DIY Cleaning Products: Do's & Don'ts | Save Money While Staying Clean (& Safe!)

I've never heard that before. Clean like clean up like you're cleaning up like the cash or clean up the laughs, getting clean up your attitude, Jill or it's gonna be bad news or you Well, well that's Jill and that's how she has heard it. I'm gen and we are not talking about cleaning up your attitude or your act. We're talking cleaning products. And we're not just going to read you a list of like thirty seven recipes for cleaning products, because I was seeing gosh lists with over

a hundred cleaning recipes. We're going to show you how to identify if the recipe you're looking at is legit and best practices when you're making d I Y cleaning products, and then we'll give you a few examples of some good ones and how you can make them not smell so vinegary. Yeah, it's perfect timing too, because now that you have Marie condoed your life and you are all

in un tidying up, let's clean it up. Because tidy home if there's bacteria and germs everywhere and dust, you know that's where it's a lot of it's going to be. You're going to clean those surfaces and you're going to find a lot of dust. You've picked up your piles of clothes off the floor, and you realize you've got some gleaning to do. One part of your carpet is darker than the other because those clothes have been there on the floor for so long. You know what I'm

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embrace it. And don't believe everything you read on the internet anyways, anyway, except for things that we've written on the internet. Totally take that blindly because we believe in science. I always think about I believe in science. All right. So our first headline today is from Good Housekeeping and it's called why you should Never mix ammonia and bleach, but it is basically six cleaning products you should never combine.

This was a really good article for me. Not that I've ever been in a position where I have mixed these things, but it it's good to know that I shouldn't ever do this. So I didn't. I didn't really know any of these if we're being honest, but kind of want to try it though. Now reading this thing that says don't ever mix these two things, I'm like, but why is it like when they announced on the plane that you shouldn't that you need to turn your

phone off? Like, is that really doing anything? You know? Is this one of those articles where they just wanted to write a bunch of stuff mixing bleach and rubbing alcohol. They're really going to make chloroform? Yeah? Oh, I want to find out. Um, let's go down the list and then we'll I have a another link to a chemist writing these things true, that's true, Yes, And this one's

written by Good Housekeeping like chief director of Cleaning. I don't know what that means, but hope she believes in science. The first one is bleach and ammonia, as the title suggests, because it produces a taxic, a toxic gas called chloramine. And and what does chloramine do? You don't want to breathe it in folks, It can give you shortness of breath and chest pain. I don't want that. I don't need that while I'm cleaning. I'm already under unnecessary stress

when I'm cleaning. Actually it's kind of therapeutic for me. But and you'll and it says it does the same thing if you meet mix vinegar with bleach, which is number five, but it mentions it along here. So I think that one's a more likely thing that people might try to do when they're cleaning their house is to they're using the all natural vinegar and then they want to just get maybe a little extra, so they'll mix the vinegar and bleach, and that also causes coramine. Whoa.

And this is where this thought pattern can come in, which they talk about in the article, that people can think, oh, if one product is really good and I like it, then mixing it with another one that I really like is going to be even better. But that thinking is false, and us frugal folk know this, right, We know that more is not usually better mm hmm yeah, and so not everyone will be using just straight up ammonia. But remember that most glass and window cleaners contain ammonia, So

keep those away from your bleach. Don't store them together, don't. Yeah, it would be important to know what the ingredients are because I have like an all purpose spray that sometimes I might like. If the all purpose spray isn't working, then I'll go grab the bleach or the vinegar. So holy smokes, maybe that's why I feel so funny when I clean a shower. Oh my gosh, Um, Jill, I think number two really shocked you. Yes it did. Okay, So number two says that you shouldn't mix drain cleaner

with drain cleaner. It can explode, which, for you pyros out there, this might be exactly what you want to do that you want to try. Said that this is the one I thought. Apparently they have some powerful formulas that if they aren't quite exactly the same, it's not like, oh, I'm running out of this drain cleaner. Just go grab whatever else I have and let's dump that down to it. It's possible that they could interact in a very negative way. Yes, So if you're trying to be frugal and combining two

things because you are low on both, just don't. And this doesn't have brands, but it is depicted by pictures of like that big jug looking one and then the smaller one that may have like two in one, and that may suggest that doing two and one is okay, but they're not. Essentially adding a third one to that two and one does not make it work better. Yes, yeah, no, it can explode in case you missed that the first time. And one that you may be really interested in knowing.

Number three. Basically, the point of this whole article being shared with you is baking soda and vinegar. Seriously, in half of the d I Y cleaning product recipes you will find out there. I don't know why, it's a simple Google search will tell you why this is not a good idea, Jill, have you tried this before? Oh yeah, this is what they all say to do, like mix

vinegar and baking soda. It's like your number one go to d I y cleaning things, so this one's definitely a surprise to me, right, No, it was a surprise to me when I was doing research for this, and it's really simple concept. Baking soda is basic. Actually, most of the cleaning like natural cleaning products you will use are basic. Vinegar is not not like not like the term like your basic. It's not that it's like remember your litmus tests back in middle school. That's what we're

talking about. Yep. It's got that high pH um. The basics, the basis have the higher phs, so that those are basic. Vinegar is acidic, and so when you put them together, yes, you get this beautiful, fizzy, little volcano like chemical reaction.

But what you are left with after those chemicals react, and it is a chemical reaction because this is science, and you are left with water, heat, and salt, so you are essentially after you mix the two, you're cleaning with warm salt water, so which I mean sometimes you clean with salt, you know, like on pans, to give you something gritty. But but this is a type of salt. This isn't the coarse salt that's giving you that grit

that you're using to clean. This is just war. This is diluted salt salt order m hmm, and it's The article also says if stored in a closed container, the mixture can explode, So try try that out if you want to see an explosion. Probably not like a scary fiery explosion, just like like volcano explosions, like science projects. Thank you science m hm. So I found this other

article from a chemist at the wire Cutter. Wirecutters are really reliable review site owned by the New York Times, and this chemist basically goes around and for the wire Cutter just kind of debunk smiths and verifies things. But she says, acids and base bases cancel each other out. So your common household acids are vinegar, which is acetic acid, and lemon juice, which is citric acid. So those are your two basic acids you can just kind of rely

on that. And then your bases are the ammonia, the baking soda, the borax bleach, And she says, please don't make bleach with anything ever ever. So that's just a good rule of thumb. If you're like I can't keep up with all these things we're talking about, just don't men mixed bleach with stuff. Yeah, and then also don't mix vinegar with basis. So basically, if you're going to use a vinegar cleaner, you want to use it on its own. And and so that's a rule of thumb

when you're looking at recipes vinegar and water. There you go, there's your thing. You can use some central oils, maybe put some you know, dried herbs in there, but that's pretty much. You don't need to make it more complicated because it only cancels out the great benefits of vinegar. And same with baking soda. Baking soda has great properties on its own, but when you mix it with vinegar, it kind of cancels those properties out exactly. So I

love science. Man. Ah yeah, so good. All right. Another one hydrogen peroxide and vinegar and hydrogen peroxide is one that it gives a fantastic chemical reaction on its own. You don't need to mix it with anything. Have you ever cleaned with hydrogen peroxide gel? Only wounds? Okay, So it does the same thing with wounds as it does like if you get blood in something, um, you put some hydrogen peroxide on it. It's it's kind of like a bleach so that's why you also shouldn't mix it

with vinegar. And you can put it on there's like maybe mold or mildew in the bathroom compored on that and it it kills it, just like yeah, just like bleach wood, but don't mix it with vinegar. Mixing that can cause irritations to your skin, eyes, respiratory system. You don't need that. Yes, it it's parakeetic, parasitic acid. Parasitic acid science, I don't know, I believe you. Yes. And our last one, guess guess what it is. Guess what

it is? Rubbing alcohol, Yeah, and bleach. You're noticing a pattern here, so um, this is the one that makes this makes chloroform. If you mix rubbing alcohol bleach together. Um, you know that's what kidnappers is. Make it a rule in your life. Don't ever mix bleach with anything but plain water, like even other cleaning products that contain bleach, like, don't do it. It should not be mixed with anything. Yeah. So if you see those things mixed together in a

recipe for a dy cleaner, run for the hills. Except for what like laundry bleach. When that when that can be added to your laundry along with your detergent. I think they're added separately in different cycles. That's what. Yeah, there's different sections. That's why it has the sections in the washing machine for a reason. Even so, you know what, this goes all the way back to what like our third or fourth episode, where like our our episode on

clothing turned mostly into a laundry episode. And then we're saying how we didn't know what all the different compartments were. Look at us. We're learning together. We're learning and growing together. Here you are a few months later. That's why there's different compartments because they can't be mixed. Boom, we're together during this a ha moment. That was funny with you you. It was good to look at your face. It felt safe. Alright.

So now that you know what to avoid in recipes, let's go take a look at the essential ingredients for homemade cleaners. Um and this is from Wonder Mom Want to Be and uh titled the Essential Ingredients for Homemade Cleaners. So for those of us who do want to make our own and have the goal of it being non toxic,

kid friendly, adult friendly, every everybody, pet friendly. You know, so you're not breathing in a bunch of carcinogens, not only when you're cleaning, but because those things like they sit around and you continue to breathe them in or touch them, and then you might put your fate, your your hands to your mouth, and it's just a whole big mess. There's a lot of reasons to d I Y, you're you're cleaning products, and here's of essentials. Yeah, you

just have to do it right. And so I like this article because not only does she go over the essentials, but she tells you why they're essential. And so when you're looking at a recipe and you're looking at the ingredients and that you should be able to identify like this is in here for this, This is in here for this, This should not be in here. Let's move on. You can be that person who when somebody's like, I just spilled wine on my red my white shirt, red

wine on my white shirt. What should I do? You can know, oh, this will be good for that because it does X y Z. You could be that person. Just start with wine and wear red shirts and then yeah, so whichever problem you want to have, um, you'll be able to solve it. So alright, the first one Jill kick us off. Alright, folks, we got baking soda top

on the list. This is ideal for scouring, you know, not not scouring like for people at the beach, but scouring like like really getting in some of that elbow grease circular motion. Yeah, just sprinkling baking soda on a countertop with a microfiber cloth, is I mean, there you go. Yeah. It's also a deodorizer, but because it absorbs smells, so you might see a lot of people with baking soda

opened in their fridge. That's why. Because it absorbs all the like yucky smells, you should still clean your refrigerator, but it does help, Yes, clean it with some baking soda. Yeah. You can also use this like in cars or on carpets if they kind of have an odor to them. Let it sit for a while and then just vacuum it up. That's a really good trick for getting out smells and maybe used cars. You know us, we're frugal, we're buying. Yes, alright, So another scouring agent is the

next one list. It's coarse salt, so not like the salt mixture you're making when you mix baking soda in vinegar, but an actual coarse salt is a scouring agent. It's safe and natural, and it also works well as a softener. So I don't know what you're softening. Maybe water, Well, we do know that it is good for a water softener, but maybe I mean I have poured salt in with pants that need a good scrubbing, and then yeah, just

a little bit of water. I don't know. Sometimes maybe you can use a lemon and then do your cast iron with some lemon and salt. Yes, another good one. Then we've got ourselves. Distilled white vinegar. This is my favorite. If you've heard our healthcare episode, you know, drinking apple cider vinegar's my jam, so of course cleaning with distilled white vinegar is also my jam. I just really think very highly of vinegar in a lot of different ways. Anyhow,

So this one is really great for fighting bacteria. It's also super effective against grease, soap, residue, and stains. Yes, and important to note again, vinegar is really good on its own mixed with some water, so don't combine it with baking soda, castile soap, hydrogen peroxide. You probably don't want to mix it with many of your other bases for the most part um and don't use it on marble or granite. Yeah, I was just gonna say that this is probably a not so commonly known thing. Marble

and granite are actually pretty porous. Grant it. You're actually supposed to reseal a couple of times a year. Most people don't realize that. They think it's a super durable countertop, and it is. You know, you can put your hot pans right on it, but it's pretty porous and you need you need to steal it quite often if you want it to last. And marble can stain really easily, so they're they're pretty countertops, but they're not durable. So side note, if you're building or remodeling right now, go

for some manmade courts quarts. It's gonna run you about the same amount as some mid grade granite, but it's just a better option if you want that high end look but not have to deal with resealing it every couple of every couple of times a year or the stains. No one needs costers on their brand new marble counter tops. Nope. And you can clean courts with distilled white vinegar yep, so fun. That's what we like to hear. Next on the list is a hydrogen peroxide super effective at killing bacteria,

so it's a great substitute for bleach and ammonia. Um, but don't mix it with vinegar. Keep those two. Keep those bacteria fighting things separately. Just because they're good at fighting bacteria on their own doesn't mean they work better together. Yeah, it's like like people exactly keep them separate. Some people, so this next one vodka. Apparently I didn't know this. Vodka is terrific for cleaning glass and chrome, and it apparently works well for getting rid of mildew you have.

Core can also substitute this for rubbing alcohol. But apparently they think vodka would work too. Although I've got to wonder, would I rather have children ingesting vodka residue on the counter or like the car synogens. I don't know. I don't know which one's like safer for kids. Yeah, I don't know either, but probably probably vodka, I will say, I guess some ahead some people in the like natural cleaning community don't think rubbing alcohol is like natural, so

they prefer vodka. Oh interesting, Um, yeah, I would probably prefer to clean with vodka. Well for a couple of reasons that I won't mention all of them. But rubbing alcohol like makes me pass out. I have some sort of association with rubbing alcohol and very sterile medical environments, and that I pass out when I got when I got my wisdom teeth out. I guess I smelled rubbing

alcohol in the chair and I passed out. No one had touched me, nothing had happened yet, and the doctors had to come in and they were like, I woke up. I was like, is it over? Oh my goodness, that was so fast, and they're like, no, you just passed out. We're putting you back under to actually do the surgery. So embarrassing. I know, rubbing alcohol man, so so vodka, man, I'm gonna use that, maybe pass out. I probably have to say that rubbing alcohol is the more frugal choice.

But if you already have vodka on hand and a lot of it, then clean clean with it. You won't pass out by the smell at least all right. And then we've got some castile soap, which is very common with it's a dr Browners is the most popular type, and it's gentle on skin but tough on dirt. And grease, and so it makes a good substitute for vinegar. And again she's saying, don't mind castile soap with vinegar, you

can use it as a substitute for it. And a lot of people hate the smell of vinegar, so that's where good alternative comes in. Yeah. The next one is bar soap. So they say that you can grate this, grade it up like you would cheese to make some homemade laundry detergent, and recipes for dish soap might call for some bar soap. And you can also use it to pre treat stains on your clothing before you throw them into the wash. I didn't know that either. I'm not a huge bar soap fan because of the res

to do that. It leaves in the shower. Same like body gels and washes are so much better for the look of your tub and shower than bar soap. So if you keep getting streaks and residue in your shower and you're like, why is this happening, it's probably because you're using bar soap. Yeah. Possibly. Uh. And the next we've got washing soda, which is different than baking soda. It's a natural laundry booster. So it's also used in

a lot of homemade cleaner recipes. It's good at cutting grease, deodorizing, and disinfecting. I would personally never make my own laundry detergent UM, but a lot of the accessory things that you buy UM you can substitute for, like d I Y and and put washing soda in them. I have never heard of the term washing soda? What what is that? Where do you find it? I would assume on Amazon, that's true, they did give you some links in here,

but I've never heard of this term. It's not something I own, and I don't think it's something I'm ever gonna buy. So, you know, take it or leave it on some of these things on the list. Yeah. So the next one is borax. So in a couple of these articles it does say beware because borax, while it is natural, it's not one safe. So don't just assume like, oh, just throw borax on it. It may not be like the best, the best thing for you, because it's risky if you inhale it or it gets into your eyes,

or if it's undluded. But it does really help with whitening and stain fighting. So actually borax is one of the ingredients. When we had talked about d I Y dry cleaning, borax is one of the ingredients for that, and I do think it's generally used when it comes to laundry. So if laundry is something you're d I wining, then definitely, yeah, consider this, But don't assume you can just like spray it everywhere. I mean, I guess none of this stuff you should spray everywhere, but all right.

And then we've got uh citric acid, which is ideal for preventing water spots and cloudiness. UM. You can use it to when you're washing dishes, leaves, um, glass and mirrors, sparkling handy for cleaning stainless steel UM and works like magic on wine stains. So this is another one where you could take that Corse salt with a lemon and clean your stainless steel and m clean wine stains. So

that would be really smart. And then we've got olive oil, and that's usually in d I Y furniture cleaners because it conditions would well. But you want to make sure you're using like a cheaper olive oil, because don't that could be even pricier than like furniture cleaners. Yeah, and then you've got your essential oil, so this is what can make it spell nice. And some oils also have some antibacterial, antifungal, anti viral properties that you can do your own research on. You do not have to join

an MLM to do this. You can get essential oils at Marshals or t j un Clearance. You may not be able to eat them, but don't eat them the solutions. There's so much science telling you not to eat them. Science. Some of the ones that she lists as really good in cleaners um lemon, t tree, peppermint, and rosemary. These are all anti bacterial i'll have antibacterial properties so perfect. Those are the things to be looking out for when you want to make your own d I Y cleaners.

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you meet Bill Murray, holy smokes. If Bill Murray calls in, I think this podcast would explode. That's like vinegar and bleach together. If Bill Murray and Frugal Friends Bill Murray Bill of the Week segment, My mind would wish you could about to explode. We need to like move on. She is stressed. It's a good stress. It's an excited stressed. Yeah, I wish could see her face. Okay, Lightning Round, Jen, you actually called it lightning round in our show in

our notes. Thank you so much. I feel so validated. Every time I'm like calling it lightning round. She's like, we don't do a lightning round, like I know, we don't just play along. And this time she put it in our outline. Yeah, I call I'm gonna I'm gonna be with you on this one. Here we go lightning round. So let's let's talk about a few good recipes. Because we said we weren't going to do a whole episode on it, and we didn't. You're welcome. We saved you

from some explosions, some respiratory issues. You know, you learned a few things about me and my aversion to rubbing alcohol. Now here's a recipe. So if you want that kind of non vinegar all purpose cleaner, because we know how good vinegar is, but some people can't take the smell of it. So this this website Keeper of the Home gives us a great non vinegar all per is cleaner. Here's what it is. One tablespoon baking soda, one teaspoon castile soap, three to five drops of a tea tree oil,

and then fill the bottle with water. Spray that all around. Folks, you've got yourselves a good smelling all purpose cleaner that you did yourself. You know what's in it. You could almost lick it, but don't. Oh yeah, don't. It's castle soap. Don't. Oh my gosh, unless you had a dirty mouth and you need to you need to wash your mouth out with soap. Do you ever have to do that? No? Your mom never made you do that. No, because I

didn't have a dirty mouth. Anyways, she would have if you would have had a dirty mouth, but she didn't. So yeah, it was a good kid, Thank you, Jill.

All right, And for those of us who are okay with a little vinegar smell, there is the tried and true classic vinegar surface cleaner, and this one's particularly from Live Simply Dot me, it's just a cup of distilled water with a cup of distilled white vinegar, and then you can add to that um half a lemon, half of the juice from half a lemon, and then like fifteen drops of essential oil whatever you want um, or you could just throw in a lemon rind and some

rosemary spreaks and do it that way. I think it's important to note with any recipe that these are not shelf stable for as long as commercial cleaners, So you don't want to let these sit around for like more than three weeks, because anytime you have you add water, especially if it's tap water, then you invite the growth of bacteria and so like not even the vinegar or the baking soda or whatever can is perfect in killing

that off. So it's one reason why using distilled vinegar is a good idea if you've got it around, but you still don't want to let it uh sit out for very long, so make small portions or maybe split it. If you are not going to use two cups of cleaner in a few weeks, then split it with a friend. But you don't want it to just be sitting And if you have made some d I y cleaner. That's

pretty old. Probably best to just toss it, start over, start over because chemical reactions and science and stuff, plus these items are inexpensive. Mm hm, that's why. That's why we frugal folks make our own. Yeah, those are our best tips for d I Y cleaning. I hope that you will try them. There are a ton of recipes on the web, and maybe one day I will just compile a list of the good ones. Um, I didn't have time to, like just rummage through all of the

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be frugal and we'll see you next week. See you then bye. By Frugal Friends is produced, edited and mixed by Eric syria Um. What would a frugal enemy even look like? Like? What would what would that mean? If you had a frugal enemy that they were somebody just trying to do Oh, this is it? Somebody who's all up in the buy nothing group trying to get all the things that you want, right, somebody that knows you're looking for those that you're looking for. It, they don't.

They just swipe into your post and they're like, oh, I'll take that. And also they never contribute to the buy nothing group. Yeah, they're always taking. So basically what we're talking about is cheap. A frugal enemy is a cheap person, because I don't think it'd be possible. They don't need anything else, right, but they just keep taking, taking, and then buy nothing group. That is it. I don't think it's possible that if you're frugal that you wouldn't

be our friends. I think that I think that what would actually be happening is you're not frugal, you're something else, probably cheap, and therefore you're a frugal enemy. You're the enemy of frugality fru to me, we don't want those reviews. No, no, and