Creative Ways to Declutter

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are big factors in anything that we talk about. So those are some really popular or great episodes whore you to listen to after this. But this episode we wanted to talk about making decluttering fun and creative. Yeah, it's something that really does speak to us. There's a reason that this topic is so popular and something that we

want to be aimed at. But then there are the barriers to it of setting aside the time for it and making those tough decisions of what to keep and what to get rid of, and yeah, just not wanting to do it. It just doesn't seem fun. It seems like a version of cleaning, and yeah, I'd rather do something else. But I really enjoyed this article that we're about to get into that highlights some ways to make

it fun. And at first when I was looking at it, I was thinking, Jen that you and I would just pick out our favorites, but I really like all eight of them on here. So we're going to go through all eight of the ways to make decluttering fun. Yeah. This is from the Mostly Simple Life and it's called eight ways to make Decluttering fun. And uh, yeah, start us off, Jill. Yeah, so the first tip is to

take before and after pictures. I love this one. It's something I also practice when I declutter, especially if I'm decluttering a space that hasn't been touched in a really long time, where you know that you're going to get

a good after picture, and that does two things. First of all, it's just fun to see the transformation, to be able to look back at whoa, that is what it looked like before, because sometimes we forget as we're in the process, we don't even fully remember how messy or trashy or junkie it used to look, whether even if it's just a drawer in your house or a full room take up before picture, because you never quite know what you're going to end up doing after. So

it's just fun. And it's also the way that you can brag on social media to people you don't have too great And secondly, it's motivating. So the fact that you have a before picture means that you do need to work towards getting an after picture. Although sidebar, this did not work for Eric and I in are exercise goals. At one point we took before pictures of like our bodies in our workout here We're like, oh, yeah, this will be so good and a couple of months will

take after pictures. What were you going for? You're both like, so fit, We're not fit, we're skinny, we're skinny, we're nothing. I did. I wanted to see definition, I wanted to see tone. It just I don't know who knows where those those before pictures are. In your defense, you could keep up with us when we were running in the spring like it was. I mean, you beat me some days,

so you are pushing a stroller to be fair. Anyhow, I think where the motivation would come in is because I think decluttering, hopefully will take less time than toning your body while exercising as quick to win. Something else I love is time last. So take your before picture and then do a time lapse video while you're decluttering, and so the hour to that you spend decluttering becomes this like really short video that you can see the progress happening, and it keeps you motivated to keep going

because you're like, oh, I can't stop. My Time Labs video is going. And then you watch it afterwards and you're like, oh, this is so cool. I want to do another. Yes, we did a time lapse video when we moved here with Travis. Travis helped us unload our enclosed trailer. We did a time Labs video unloading our trailer and moving in. It's fun, it is, Yeah, it's a way to make it fun, give you something to look forward to watching at the end of your work.

It's great. Yes, and time last videos are so fun to watch on YouTube and Instagram, So then definitely please post your time last videos and tag us in them so that we can celebrate with you. Yes, because I love I love watching time Labs cleaning videos. Those are so satisfying. I love them all right. So number two is to set a timer. So if you're intimidated by the amount of time you think it will take to finish and cluttering project, try setting a timer and racing

against the clock. So maybe you only have you know, fifteen or thirty minutes, like before your kid wakes up from your nap. And normally I would be like, I'm just gonna sit here for thirty minutes and scroll Instagram. But if you have a small space, maybe one drawer or something that you can declutter, set a timer twenty minutes and then go really quickly. And what that also does is helps you make faster decisions and you make better decisions about decluttering. I love this one. It's so great.

Just make sure you don't actually throw away really important things like the only knife that you ever used to chop vegetables. Keep that well, yeah, you're not gonna probably not gonna throw away that one if it's the only knife. My boss threw away her marriage license in a decluttering frenzy, is just like, what's this? This is cluttering up my counter. I throw away everything, and Travis is like, hey, have you seen this piece of paper? And I was like,

I threw it away. Always keep it in a good spot. Otherwise has thrown out. Always. The third tip on this list is to do it with a friend. Just having someone there to socialize with you, even if they're not helping, they're just kind of hanging out with you while you do this. That can make it fun. Okay, here's my personal caveat on this one. However, make sure that it's a friend who was on board with this process, not a friend who's going to question every decision that you make.

Like one time, I think my mom sat in my childhood bedroom as I de clatter to what not the same no chili? Not your yearbook, yes mom, my yearbook with your mom exactly. Not someone who's going to be super sentimental, but it could be someone who might be willing to take some of your things of ah, yeah,

sure I could use that and they could benefit. I also had the thought that this could be a trade z where if you've got a friend who is also interested in doing this, you swap days and maybe they do come and help you declutter and if they've got kind of a similar mindset of how to go about it, and then you give of your time to them, and you might even find things that you can swap actual

goods that you might need. Similar to helping friends move, oftentimes there's things that they want to discard in their move, and because you're helping them, you get to benefit. So yes, I'm getting rid of and receiving and something you could do like you could do a virtual like code declutter, Like there's virtual coworking now, you could do a virtual

code declutter. So if you have a friend that you've met on the internet, say maybe in the Frugal Friends community on Facebook, and you want to do some d cutters, then swap contact info and do like a timed clutter. This is a great brainstorming session. I love and God we do this. The fourth one is to compete, So this is for all you competitive people out there. Check if your spouse or partner roommate, whatever, We'll compete with you and see who can get rid of the most

clothes or storage boxes or paperwork. This is a great way that if your spouse maybe a hoarder um and maybe also competitive, that you can get them to get rid of more things. It's not manipulative, but it just goes. I said it's not manipulative. That means right. Uh so, it's just a technique that you I'm not saying I've used before, but you could. And I think this could relate to the previous one, the previous tip of doing this online with somebody you could all so make it

a competition. It doesn't have to be someone within your own household. You could also compete with somebody outside of your household for how many things you get rid of? Or yeah, there's all kinds of creative or whoever who has the most before and after photos? Who has a pretty for and after photos? Posted in the Frugal Friends Facebook community group. We vote. It doesn't have to be pretty, it just has to be clean. Don't don't make it please.

Number five on this list do a declutter challenge, so somewhat along those lines, maybe not as competitive with another person but a challenge with yourself, and this article recommends going on Pinterest and finding any kind of declutter challenge. Just type that in and find one that resonates with you. Some common ones will include decluttering a certain room of your house or a certain portion of your home. It could be getting rid of x amount of items, So

find one that resonates with you. If you know that clothing is a particular point of contention for yourself personally and that needs to be the area that gets decluttered, you name it. Find a challenge that works for you and kind of go along with that. Some of them are just a day challenge, but some of them are monthly challenges of get rid of one item a day in this category or yeah, find one that works for you.

I love challenges because they force you to get through the decluttering process quickly, because if you let it go for longer than six weeks, even maybe four weeks, it's very unlikely that you will get through it at all.

So it's one of those things where you need to just rip the band aid off, set the timers, do the challenge and get it done quickly and then be done with it and then just go on into maintenance, because it's very hard to live in a house that you are decluttering, especially if you start something like you start a declutter a portion of your house and then you don't finish it, and then all that stuff is

just laying around. It's it's very stress inducing. So work on it in chunks that you can finish in the same session you start, and then just keep doing it over and over until it's done. Yeah. Yeah, and you can do Number six while you're doing it is listen to a great audio book or podcast. I'm not saying listen to the Frugal Friends podcast while you declutter, but I am saying we have a hundred and forty three

other episodes to listen to. Yeah. This isn't manipulation by any means, but you could listen to this very podcast, this very episode while you d clutter, just to give you your the motivation you need. Yeah. But also audio books, a good audio book, whatever you want. And number seven on this list is to sell things. You know that We've talked about this from a variety of different angles, as we is to make money when you're short on cash,

and it also pairs well with the decluttering process. This article mentions that you can make decluttering fun by selling some of your things for fun money. But I would also argue you could have any other sort of financial goal, whether it's a savings goal or a specific purchase that you want to make, or getting out of debt quicker like that can be a fun motivator. It doesn't have to just be that you plan to spend this money

in a fun way. You can also just sell things, see how much money you can make and put it towards something that's really valuable to you. Yeah, and I know that not everything is sellable, so even if it's not, when it comes to selling your stuff, it's not about what it's worth. It's about what people will pay for it. So keep that in mind. I'll put something up for what I think it's worth. If I don't get anything

in forty eight hours, I lower the price. And something about decluttering too, is that, especially if we're going room by room, we might find themes of things or a lot of things that we could sell. So maybe we're not just going to sell one pair of shorts, but if we've got five athletic shorts that we're getting rid of, we could post that whole lot for sale, you know, and really you want to approach this when you're selling

it as more. I just want this out of my home, and if I can make any amount of money off of it, that's great. So if I can do a lot of five athletic shorts for five bucks and someone's going to come porch pick up, that's great. It saves me a trip to Goodwill and I make just a little bit of cash and I hardly had to do

anything for it. So even consider clumping things together, and even if it's kitchen utensils, you name it, just for a low amount of money, that might be worth it for somebody to come grab yea and the five no one on here. Give yourself a reward, So treat yourself to something special once you've decluttered, so that you have something to look forward to. And ideally this wouldn't be

buying something for your home or buying a thing. So maybe it's dinner out, or maybe you get to do a family photo shoot in your house, like you get to pay somebody to take family photos. Whatever it is that you really would like to reward yourself with after having a clean home, maybe it's having your family over something. But Yeah, these are some great ways to make decluttering fun.

I loved every single one on this list and so our next one is from slow dot co Slow with two w's, and it is a list of twenty five plus simple living, slow living, decluttering and minimalism challenges. So lenges was one of those things on the list, and we love challenges, so we wanted to go through some of the most popular ones. This is so fun. I didn't even know that somebody could have a curated list like yes, and so it's in different categories of simple

living and slow living challenges. Some of them are very off the wall but so interesting. So this one just stands out to me. I can't not not what I'm gonna do for multiple reasons. Sleep and Drink with the Dogs. It's a once a month stoicism challenge where you sleep in the dog basket once a month, drink the dog's water, and basically realize that you're okay. You can live that way and it gives you a new perspective. So sorry to start us off. Most of one of them led

one apps. I just couldn't I it stood out to me. I'm sure someone might try it. No, I'm sure they I am ent sure nobody listening to this will drink out of their dog's water bowl. But if I call it a stoicism challenge, maybe we've got some some people who would be interested. Okay, well I set out to you. My favorite one on this list was actually a popular one from the minimalists, and it's a thirty day minimalism challenge.

So they have a few on this list. They have like, oh my gosh, maybe five, so they have a ten out of ten material possessions. But this thirty day minimalism game is the one I really like, and you can actually, I think, get like a download of it on their website. So every day for thirty days, you increase the number of things you get rid of by one. So on day when you're getting rid of one thing, on day two you're getting rid of two things. So by day thirty,

on day thirty, you have to get rid of thirty things. Yeah, and so that's a lot. It's four hundred sixty five items decluttered from your house and getting rid of Yeah. And so I'm sure like you can start big and go small. You'd really have to make sure that you have enough to get rid of and you're not just throwing things out. I feel like, well, by the end

of it, you kind of have to be. But like, I think everybody has four hundred and sixty five things they can get rid of, even if it's like a piece of paper is a thing to you, Like that's you can get rid of a stack of like thirty old documents that you don't need, like five year old tax returns. Yeah, I mean so, I think this is

a really good game. And then it gets you to, you know, start thinking with the obvious, the big things, the books and other stuff, and then by the end of it, you're going like right down to the paper clips. Because sometimes when you're declared uttering, it's easier to get rid of the big things, but the small things are so small and they're so easy to like tuck into nooks and crannies that they just stay in there forever.

But when you're challenged to get rid of thirty things in a day, then finally that paper clip is like, Okay, here's one of my things I can get rid of it. Another one that stood out to me under the minimalism category, and this a little bit more falls into the maintenance category than decluttering. But I think still worthwhile to consider. It's the one in, one out rule, meaning that you would not buy anything new first of all until you

finished the cluttering. But then once you do get something new, you've also got to get rid of something else. So once you've kind of paired down to what you see as the essentials and what you want to keep into your home, if you ever do buy something new, that means it has to replace something or something else, even unrelated,

needs to leave the home. So I think that's a good even maintenance concept, something that I think that I enjoy keeping in the back of my head as I continue to maintain a decluttered or like a minimalist home. And I don't want to find myself with twenty pairs of jeans. So if I find a pair of jeans that I like better, and that's kind of a rule for me to like. If I find something that I like in a store, I have to ask myself, well do I like this better than what I already have?

And if the answer is yes, then I could consider buying it and replacing an item I already have with that. Yeah, that's a great one for maintenance. Another one in this list I like, and it's not so much decluttering, but I guess it could be. It could keep you from bringing clutter into the house. But I just love this one. It's called the one time use rule, and so I guess the person writing this was like, I did a challenge where I wouldn't buy it if I could only

use it one time. And so their example where coffee, fast food, shots at the bar, stuff like that. So that's a great money challenge, but it also keeps us from just bringing in things that maybe we'll only use once in our home. But personally, after I make coffee, I put it in the compost, so I would still be getting coffee grounds. But it's I mean, I didn't

understand that one. I'm like, of course, food is a one time use thing, so right, yeah, it would be subjective, I guess, but I do buy more fast food than I should at this point in my life, so I think it would be good just to have this like kind of rule in your head. It's like, Okay, how many times can I use this? How many times will I use this? And it might be able to keep

some expenses off my card. Yeah. I took that more in the direction of not having as many disposable items like do I buy paper towels or do I utilize rags because I can one time, maybe twice, depending on if they're heavy duty. Of course you've got this other I always gravitate towards the clothing declutter pieces because that's been something for me personally. I used to collect a lot of clothes partly because I would buy a second hand.

So it's almost an excuse of why I could have more clothing because I could buy it less expensively, But then I would still just end up with a stuffed closet of things that I hardly ever wore. So this

has been a thing for me. But there's the closet hangar method, or some might call it the reverse hangar trick, where you turn all of your clothes around the opposite direction from what you might normally hang them, or the hangar goes on backwards on the hook, and then when you wear it, then you turn it right side around. And if you've gone for six months and nine months, twelve months with still the one hanger opposite, that means you haven't worn it, so yeah, it of it, pass

it on to somebody else. Yeah, And it can also help you go through your closet more you see one of those things that you haven't worn in a long time, it's like, oh, I'll wear this, so you get better use out because they always tell you, like get rid of clothing you haven't worn in in a year. And sometimes it's like, I don't know did I wear this. I can't remember what I ward five months ago. Yeah, well, so it's kind of like this one. So this is

another one from the minimalistle. And you look at a possession and if you have, you like asked yourself, have I used this item in the last ninety days? If you haven't, will you use it in the next ninety If not, then it's okay to let go. I like that one. It's weird in Florida, like winter clothes. I could say that like in June, like I haven't worn this jacket in ninety days and I won't wear it for ninety more days, but those two days in January

I need it. So but that's just close. I'm sure there's a lot of other things that I'm like, I should do this with and I'm currently working on it. But this also goes. They have another one rule and it says anything we get rid of that we truly need, we can replace for less than twenty dollars in less than twenty minutes from our current location. And they said, thus far, this hypothesis has become a theory that has

held true of the time. And then although we rarely had to replace just in case items fewer than five times for the two of us combined, we've never had to pay more than twenty dollars or go more than twenty minutes out of our way to replace them. And I think as frugal people, we hold onto things because we don't want to pay for them again later. We either look at the sunk cost of what we've already

paid for it or think of future costs. But in reality, especially if you were living in a city where things are very easy to access, it's very likely that we don't need the things that we're holding onto, like just sting case. Yeah, they've got other groupings of challenges on here, like digital minimalism challenges. So the one is digital declutter your smartphone challenge, and you can figure out what is

going to work best for you. But some tips might include like not having email come to your phone or not having any apps on the home screen, turning off all of your notifications, different declutter experiments that you can do for a month, having a challenge of unplugging your phone, or like literally not having access to your phone for maybe twelve to twenty four hours. Of course it's twelve hours. Make sure it's when you're awake so you can actually

experience what that's like. Yeah, but I just I think that, especially if challenges resonate with us, this is a great article to check out to find one that really speaks to what your current needs and goals are, an area of your life that you want to see decluttered, and find a challenge that works for you. They've also got a whole degory of purpose challenges on here, Like one of them is asking why five times, getting to the root of some of the things that you might do.

It sounds kind of like a like a toddler, like your your internal toddler. If you find yourself doing certain things like why am I doing this is important to me? Why? But why? But why? And that can kind of help us to declutter and prioritize what we have in our home, what we have on our computers, that we have on our phones. So different ways of approaching this kind of

declutter topic. Yeah, I loved these purpose challenges actually, and so when we talked about digital minimalism, we talked about some of these challenges and I did. I took all the apps off of my phone and only brought back the ones that I use. And it's probably time for another digital declutter for me. But these are all great. You know what else is really good? The best time of the week I need to do again the bill of the week. That's right, it's time for the best

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have time for it. But part of our barrier to doing something like this and negotiating is, I don't know, maybe a fear of being rejected or not having the right words, or feeling like you're being a burden to someone else, even though you pay money to these people, so you do have the right to just ask and to try to negotiate. But well done and finding the time to do it and the courage to do it, and then seeing success and sharing it with us, this

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increase our bills. So thanks again just for sharing that. If you have a bill that you lowered through negotiation or anything else, then please visit Frugal Friends podcast dot com slash bill and leave us a voicemail or speak pipe and we will play it and we will celebrate with you. Yes, now it's time for the learning worundo. So are lightning round? Today? Is confession of what is something in your house that you need to get rid of but you just have not yet? What is it

for you? Jen um? So I actually am. You can't see this, but I am sitting in front of a gigantic box of things that need to be gotten rid of. And I'm typically very good about getting rid of stuff. I love getting rid of stuff. I don't like getting rid of Travis's stuff. But he has some snorkeling gear and a bowling ball, and neither of which he has used in the entire time I've known him. But we still have it. And so I've kind of gotten some of this stuff out, and it's kind of just waiting.

I have some other stuff of mine that I'm getting rid of, but I'm happy to get rid of. I had to shuffle some things around because I'm like, oh, I could probably get rid of this if I put this here and this here, and I just like look for things to get rid of. But we're working on getting rid of the snorkeling gear and the bowling ball. Yes, I love that. It's that it is, Travis, is things that you're trying to get rid of. I know, well, I try to think of something like what do I

need to get rid of it? I'm like, if I see it and I need to get rid of it, it literally goes right into a bag, and then when that bag fills up, it goes to the thrift store. Like all the time. My trouble right now is finding a place to donate my items. Like I'm still learning the area. Back up north, we would have drop boxes all over the place, or I kind of knew the thrift stores that were along the way and what their

donation hours are, and I don't know that yet. So I just have this constant bag in the trunk of my car. That's like, if I happen to see a place that I can drop things at, I'll do it. So anyhow one thing that I need to get rid of. This is a tough one for me because we are still in the process of settling in our new house and going from living in one hundred seventies square feet to living in four hundred square feet, so it has

been a bit more of collection for us than decluttering. However, our garage is a hot mess, and this might be in line with what you're describing jen of Travis's things versus my things, and especially if I don't understand things like all of the different tools that Erik has. But yet we're also in a renovation, so there's things that I can't quite get rid of. So this is my long answer to say, there are some lights I think in the garage that we need to get rid of.

We have a collection of lamps that I don't think we're gonna need anymore here. But then I've been kind of holding off because we're not quite settled and my kitchen is practically still demolished. So it's a weird time for me. Okay, it's a weird time in the decluttering space, there is a lot of stuff, but there's reasons for it.

So I think lamps check back in in a year. Okay, that did actually made me think of there are some white Christmas lights that I've been holding onto that I need to get rid of because white lights are so versatile. But I have enough lighting outdoors and I'm not in my twenties anymore, so I'm not going to hang them inside my house. So I'm getting rid of those are actually in the box. I just remember those were in

the box. So that is a thing that you do in your twenties, right, It's cute, it's like it's it's but I usually you're living in spaces in your twenties that needs, like anything is going to make the space look better, So like twinkle lights is the way to go. Yeah, white twinkle lights are fun. But I have a real outdoor, you know, petty lights now, So we're good because you're in your mid thirties now, yeah, hey, early thirties, so

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