Ingvar Kamprad founded IKEA when he was 17 years old and worked on it until he died at 91 years old. He wrote what they called the IKEA company Bible. It's a document called The Testament of a Furniture Diller. I actually love the message inside so much that I had the document printed and bound, and it is now sitting on my desk. And in that document, and something Ingvar repeated for more than six decades was that cost awareness was to be IKEA's anthem. Ingvar's dedication to that idea was
total. And the way that Ingvar spoke about this, it sounded and reminded me a lot of what Sam Walton would say about the importance of cost control in his autobiography. There's multiple different quotes from his autobiography where Sam talks about this. This is one of my favorite. He says, I'm asked why today when Walmart has been so successful. When we're already a $50 billion plus company, should we stay so cheap? That's simple because we believe in the value of the dollar.
We exist to provide value to our customers. This is something Ingvar repeats over and over again, which means that in addition to quality and service, we have to save them money. Every time Walmart spends $1 foolishly, it comes right out of the customer's pocket. Every time we save them a dollar, that puts us one step ahead of the competition, which is where we always plan to be.
Control your expenses better than your competition. This is where you can always find the competitive advantage for 25 years running long before Walmart was known as the nation's largest retailer. We ranked number one in our industry for the lowest ratio of expenses to sales. Anyone and everyone who is committed to being great at building their businesses obsessed with watching their costs. Ingvar says this in the book. He says that we pushed cost awareness
at all levels with almost manic frenzy. There's a line in Andrew Carnegie's biography that describes what it said. Cost control became nearly an obsession. Sam Walton, Andrew Carnegie, Ingvar, I talked about Henry Ford in this episode. They all built two of the world's largest fortunes. And what they all had in common, just like Elon Musk who you and I talked about last week, and countless of other history's greatest founders, for them, cost control was an obsession.
This is something I talk about all the time with my friend Eric, who's the co-founder and CEO of Ramp. Ramp is now a partner of this podcast. I've gotten to know all the co-founders of Ramp and has spent a bunch of time with them over the last year or two. They all listen to the podcast and they've all picked up on the fact that the main theme from the podcast is on the importance of watching your costs and controlling your spend. In fact, Eric Justemi text from this biography of
a founder that he's reading. And in it, one of his employees is talking about the fact that you get a handwritten note asking things such as, why is this expense higher than last month? And what steps are you going to take to change it? And he didn't forget it the next month, either. He would notice he was sharp. He knew exactly where every what every dollar went for.
And that founder, just like either Campera, Sam Walton, Elon Musk, and your Carnegie Henry Ford, the reason they did this is because they knew that watching your costs and controlling your spend gives you a massive competitive advantage. And that is the reason that Ramp exists. Ramp exists to give you everything you need to control your spend. Ramp exists to give you everything you need to
make cost control an obsession. I think Ramp's website is incredible. Make history's greatest entrepreneurs proud by going to ramp.com to learn how they can help your business control costs. That is ramp.com. Imagine one of the coldest little countries in the world. Think of the most barren part of that country. See in front of you, a god forsaken place deep in the forest.
This book is about a man who grew up in this harsh environment, which was to mark his whole life and fundamentally color the philosophy with which he built his vast empire consisting of thousands of employees and millions of customers all over the world. The country is Sweden. The man is Imbar Camperad, furniture dealer. He aims to give his business eternal life. It's a long way to the country where an empire was built, where he was born loneliness, silence, and reserve
prevail. The cottages have always been small. Survival has never been taken for granted. It was here that the dream of IKEA first grew. This is where the rough outline of the whole concept began to be written by a dyslexic boy on a farm. Two empty hands, the myth says. He built an empire from nothing. But what are two empty hands? And what is really meant by nothing? Do love and encouragement, innate energy, desire for revenge, imagination, and curiosity all count for nothing?
What about the vanity of one day showing your father and your mother and the whole world what you could do? Of course they count. This is not a book about a man starting out empty-handed. On the contrary, it is a book about a man with his hands full of resolute dreams, a heart tormented by inadequacy and self-pity, and a stubborn and inquisitive enterprise, a strange mixture of a social animal and an eccentric. The book is equally about a business in which he realized and
through which he lived out all of these circumstances for good or for bad. It is about an outstanding and natural genius, an incorrigible capitalist, so relentlessly obsessed by the lore of profit and power that he used a thousand tricks to endow his creation with eternal life. Others will recognize themselves in his story for all of us bear within us the embryo of a miracle. That was an excerpt from the book I want to talk about today, which is leading by design, the IKEA story, and is written
by Bertil Torkel with a lot of close association with Ingvar Camprite himself. So there's huge chunks of this book that are in Ingvar's own words. I want to go to the end of the book really quick, because I think it's really important, and this is something that I absolutely love about entrepreneurs, is that entrepreneurs love the future generations of entrepreneurs, so Ingvar Camprite, think about
how crazy this is. So he found IKEA. Okay, IKEA was started 81 years ago. It is now today the largest furniture retailer in the world, and also strangely enough, one of the world's 50 largest restaurant chains. But he found IKEA 81 years ago. He works on it for 74 years, from the time he is 17 until he dies, and Ingvar dies at 91. And so about 20 years before he passes away, Ingvar agrees to work on
this book with the author, and he tells us at the very end why he did this. He says, for over 10 years, I've been called on by a number of writers and publishers wanting to write my biography. I have always been very reluctant to do this and have evaded the issue as politely as possible. And that was his position until this author suggested that the book be written so that it could be used as study material for future entrepreneurs. That was the only time I listened. So I'm actually
going to put the book down for one second. I actually want to start with what is considered like the the IKEA Bible. It is a document called the Testament of a furniture dealer and is written by Ingvar Camprite in 1976. You can read it for free online, but I thought it was so great that actually Pratt it printed and bound. And the way that the Testament of a furniture dealer is described internally at IKEA, they call it a sermon on the culture of IKEA. And in fact, later on in
the book, they talk about the fact that this document is the basis of this sermon. So every year Ingvar would have like top executives and then some new people that are new to the IKEA family. He would lead a meeting with them. And it says he essentially gave the exact same sermon for 43 straight years. And that talk was based on the principles and the ideas in this document that's
sitting before me. And so he starts with an act of service. He is telling them why IKEA exists. And he says to create a better everyday life for the many people by offering a wide range of well-designed functional home furnishing products at prices so low that as many people as possible will be able to afford them. The best founders, the best leaders, they know their job is to get their entire organization's commitment to a common goal. So the very next sentence is a great description of
IKEA's common goal. We have decided once and for all to side with the many. And so throughout Ingvar's life, he will constantly repeat these principles and he will also say, you are forbidden. You cannot change these principles ever. So this is the first one. We have decided once and for all to side with the many. This is an objective that carries obligations and he's immediately going to contrast. This is the way the IKEA way. This is the principles. This is what we believe in and
he's going to contrast it to what everyone else does. He is telling him, this is how we will be different. All nations and society spend a disproportionate amount of their resources on satisfying a minority of the population. Far too many of the fine designs and new ideas are reserved for a small circle of the affluent. That situation has influenced the formulation of our objectives. So when I read that paragraph, the first person that came to mind was actually
Henry Ford. If you go back and study the creation of the American Automobile industry, I would argue the two most important figures are Henry Ford. Obviously found our Ford Motor Company and then Billy Durant, founder of General Motors. The reason Henry Ford came to mind is because Henry Ford had one single idea. It took him like a decade and a half to figure out how to do this idea, but his one single idea was to make the car for the every man. Let me read you a paragraph from one of the
biographies of Billy Durant that I read. And this is really Billy Durant describing Henry Ford's one single idea. Says Durant noted that Ford was in favor of keeping prices down to the lowest possible point, giving to the multitude the benefit of cheap transportation. Henry Ford was obsessed with eliminating waste. He was obsessed with cost control and he was obsessed with rethinking the manufacturing process for the maximum level of efficiency. The same exact thing could be said about
Ingvar Campera. And so we go back to this opening declaration from Ingvar Campera. After only a couple of decades, we have achieved good results, but we have great ambitions. We know that in the future, remember he's writing this in 1976, okay? We know that in the future, we will be able to make a valuable contribution outside of our homeland too. He's talking about Sweden. We know that larger production runs gives us new advantages on our home ground as well as more markets to spread our
risks over. That is why it's our duty to expand. The means we use for achieve error goals are characterized by our approach by doing it a different way. That phrase, doing it a different way, something he repeats over and over again. Part of creating a better everyday life for the many people also consists of breaking free from convention. That part is important because, fast forward to present day, Ikea is the largest furniture retailer in the world. At the time he's
writing these words, obviously they're not, but they're also the most innovative. There are several ideas that Ingvar and the early employees that Ikea came up with. They were the first ones to come up with them and they are now widespread throughout the entire industry. And you see him many decades before, he's the largest furniture retailer in the world saying, hey, we are going to break free from convention. We are going to find new and better ways. We are going to do it a different way.
And he also says it's not going to be easy. He says we must demand much of ourselves. The essence of our work is described in the following chapters. The following chapters also describe the rules and methods that we have worked out over the years as cornerstones of the framework of ideas that have made and will continue to make Ikea a unique company.
And so then he has a list of nine principles that Ikea is built on. And one of the key principles is that Ikea must have low prices so the vast majority of people can afford to shop there. And you'll see his dedication to that idea is total. So he says the concept of a low price makes enormous demands on all of our co-workers. That includes product developers, designers, buyers, office and warehouse staff, salespeople and all other cost bears who are in a position to
influence our purchase price and all of our other costs. In short, every single one of us without low cost, we can never accomplish our purpose. And so you and I have talked about this over and over again. The fact that the greatest entrepreneurs throughout history, they cost controls an obsession for them that definitely applies to Ingbor as well. He talks about it over and over again. You have to control your costs because we must have low prices. And then he ends
this section saying there is no compromise. This principle will never be compromised. He says our policy of serving the many can never be changed. And so in the next section he starts talking about the Ikea spirit. What he calls, well, you and I would call company culture. He calls the Ikea spirit. And I think this part in particular is a great illustration of the idea that the founder is the guardian of the company's soul. If you read this section, it's obvious that Ingbor is trying
to guard the company's soul. He says obviously it was easier to keep alive our company spirit in the old days when there was not so many of us. When we were all within reach of each other and could talk to each other, things were more concrete in those days. The readiness to give each other helping hand with everything, the art of managing on small means of making the best of what we had, cost consciousness to the point of being stingy, humbleness, undying enthusiasm, and the wonderful
sense of community through thick and thin. Those are just some of the principles that he's going to repeat over and over again for seven decades. Not, and this is what I really mean about. He definitely has a specific point of view. He knows exactly how he wants what he wants his company to do. He knows exactly how he wants the company to be built. He knows exactly the kind of people he wants, working inside of his company. He says not everybody in a large group like ours can feel the same
sense of responsibility and enthusiasm. Some undoubtedly regard the job simply as a means of livelihood, a job like any other. Sometimes you and I must share the blame for failing to keep
the flame a light. For faltering in our own commitment at times, for simply not having the energy to infuse life and warmth into an apparently monotonous task, the true Ikea spirit is built on our enthusiasm, our constant striving for renewal, from our cost, consciousness, from our readiness to take responsibility, from our humbleness and approaching our tasks, and from the simplicity of our way of doing things. Those who cannot or will not join us are to be pitted. A job must never be
just a livelihood. If you're not enthusiastic about your job, a third of your life goes to waste. For those of you who bear any kind of leadership responsibility, it is crucially important to motivate and develop your coworkers. You as the captain make the decisions after consulting the team. There is
no time for arguments afterwards. Okay, so the third principle is profit gives us resources. So the financial performance of Ikea, I don't think I've ever seen anything any other business like this. At one point in time, it was believed that Ikea might be the most valuable, privately held business that was owned by a single person in the world. And Ingvar never even took out a loan while he was building Ikea. The only, he says later on the book, and he was like 14 or 15 at the time because
he starts selling things when he's like five. And later on the book, he says the only real loan he ever got was from a bank for $63, so he could buy a bunch of fountain pens. And then he immediately sold the pens for a large profit. And so one of the iron laws of Ikea is that all expansion is to be self financed. And his point was to do that, you have to make a profit. His profit gives us resources. A better everyday life for many people. Profit is a wonderful word. It is a word that politicians
often use and abuse. Profit gives us resources. He says it again. Let us be self reliant in the matter of building up financial resources. The aim of our effort to build up financial resources is to reach a good result in the long term. You know what it takes to do that. We must offer the lowest prices and we must combine them with good quality. This forces us to develop products more economically, to purchase more efficiently, and to be constantly stubborn in cost savings of all
kinds. That is our secret. That is the foundation of our success. And so principle number four is reaching good results with small means. Again, this is what I meant about Henry Ford, the similarity and Henry Ford. They were both obsessed with eliminating waste and increasing efficiency. They were both relentlessly resourceful. So it says reaching good results with small means. Wasting resources is a mortal sin at Ikea. It is not all that difficult to reach set targets if
you do not have to count the cost. Any designer can design a desk that will cost $5,000. But only the most highly skilled can design a good functional desk that will only cost $100. This is one of my favorite lines and out of everything that he said, expensive solutions to any kind of problem are usually the work of mediocrity. We have no respect for solution until we know what it costs. An Ikea product without a price tag is always wrong. Waste of resources is one of the greatest
diseases of mankind. And he's not just talking about money. He's constantly hounding on doing more with less time. It is also a mortal sin to waste time at Ikea. Waste costs is even more in little everyday things. Filling out papers that you'll never need again, spending time proving that you were right, postponing a decision to the next meeting because you don't want to take the responsibility now. Calling somebody we need you could just as easily send a note. The list is
endless. Use your resources the Ikea way achieve good results with small means. Number five, simplicity is a virtue. In decisiveness generates more statistics, more studies, more committees, more bureaucracy, bureaucracy complicates and paralyzes. Planning is often synonymous with bureaucracy. This is going to sound a lot like Elon Musk and the early days of SpaceX which you and I talked about last week. There's a line in that book, no reports, no committees, just done, no work about work,
just work. Ingvar is saying the exact same thing here. And he's not shy about this. Listen to what he says here. Do not forget that exaggerated planning is the most common cause of corporate death. Exaggerated planning leaves you less time to get things done, complicated planning paralyzes. So let simplicity and common sense guide your planning. Simplicity is a fine tradition. Simplicity is a virtue. Number six is a principle I've already mentioned multiple times doing it a
different way. If we from the start had consulted experts about whether a little community like Almehart, these are tiny little towns and Sweden that he grew up in highly likely on this for announcing them. I looked it up and tried to practice for the pronunciation before I promise you it did. Almehart I think is how you say it. But it says if we had asked experts about whether this tiny little community in Sweden could support a company like IKEA, they would have undoubtedly
advised against it. Nevertheless, Almehart, sorry, is now home to one of the world's biggest operations in the home furnishing business by always asking why we are doing this or that we can find new paths. By refusing to accept a pattern simply because it is well established, we make progress. We dare to do things differently. Our protest against convention is not protest for its own sake. It is deliberate expression of our constant search for development and improvement.
Maintaining in the development the dynamism of our business is one of the most important tasks. That's why I hope that we will never have two identical stores. Dynamism and the desire to experiment must continually lead us forward. I'm going to go back to that one line that I think really jumps out from the section. That is why I hope they will never have two identical stores. So Ingvar Camperide was dyslexic. There's another dyslexic founder that I covered several years ago.
It is the founder of Kinkos. Paul Orphalo because of his dyslexia would not sit in office. So what he how he spent his time he would travel around and visit all of the different Kinkos stores and Kinkos stores at the time before he sold it to FedEx. They were all under different ownership and they were also all run in a different way. There's a great line in his biography where it says you have to remember he's been picking up the best ideas from all around the country.
And so one of my favorite ideas in Paul's biography is the fact because he was dyslexic he would use this is a long time ago. So he would essentially have a corporate wide or a company wide voicemail system. So he'd spend his days visiting all the stores all the great ideas that he'd pick up from around the country. At the end of his day he would call into this number and he would just talk for a few minutes about what he learned that day. And so then if you work at Kinkos you could
come in the next morning and listen to that recording. And so this way of dispersing and spreading the ideas throughout Kinkos was so beneficial. So helpful people were like well Paul if this is like the best way to do check out of this is the best way to do marketing or this is the best way you know to do this print job. Why don't you mandate that all the other stores do it that way since that's the best way. And what he said was brilliant. He said because if I do that then that
is the best way it will ever be. Call understood that all these individual stores were like miniature laboratories and you did not want to restrict their ability to discover new things to trial and error. And you see Ingvar saying the exact same thing here in 1976 that is why I hope that we will never have two identical stores dynamism and the desire to experiment must continually lead us forward.
Number seven concentration concentration is important to our success the general who devices resources will be defeated for us to it is a matter of concentration focusing our resources we can
never do everything everywhere all the time we will never be able to satisfy all tastes. We cannot conquer every market at once we must concentrate for maximum impact often with small means concentration means that it's certain vital stages we are forced to neglect otherwise important aspects concentration the very word implies strength use it in your daily work it will give you results. Number eight taking responsibility is a privilege there are people at all levels in every type of
company who would rather make their own decisions than hide behind those made by others. The fewer such responsibility takers a company has the more bureaucratic it is constant meetings and group discussions are often the result of unwillingness on the part of the person in charge to make a decision. And so he gets to why so many people are afraid to make decisions they're afraid to make decisions because they're afraid of making mistake and he says this line over and over again only while
sleeping one makes no mistakes making mistakes is the privilege of the active. Making mistakes is the privilege of the active constantly practice making decisions to overcome our fear of making mistakes the fear of making mistakes is the root of bureaucracy and the enemy of development. It is always the mediocre people who are negative who spend their time proving that they were not wrong the strong
person is always positive and looks forward. And finally number nine most things still remain to be done a glorious future the feeling of having finished something is an effective sleeping pill a person who retires feeling that he has done his bit will quickly wither away. A company which feels that it has reached its goal will quickly stagnate and lose its vitality. Happiness is not reaching your goal. Happiness is being on the way. It is our wonderful fate to be just at the beginning and I
absolutely love that he said that because he's 33 years into running this company. And so I'm sure at the time some people were like okay we're just at the beginning you know we're 33 years into this thing. But now 50 years after writing this he was obviously said it was right. It is our wonderful fate to be just at the beginning the positive joy of discovery must be our inspiration in the future. The word impossible has been deleted from our dictionary. Experience is a word to be handled
carefully experiences a break on development. Many people cite experience as an excuse for not trying anything new. Bear in mind that time is your most important resource you can do so much in 10 minutes 10 minutes once gone or gone for good and you can never get them back 10 minutes is not just a sixth of your hourly pay 10 minutes or a piece of yourself divide your life into 10 minute units and sacrifice as few of them as possible a meaningless activity. Most of the job remains to be
done. Let us continue to be a group of positive fanatics. Let us continue to be a group of positive fanatics who stubbornly and persistently refuse to accept the impossible. What we want to do we can do and will do together and then he ends with a tagline that he repeats over and over again. He says a glorious future. Okay, so now I'm going to pick the book back up and I'm going to go straight into
Ingvar in his own words. He's telling us the story of his early life and he's talking about the dynamic inside of his family and as he tells us about his early life and his early life plays out as the pages turn more and more of my notes say the exact same thing revenge. It becomes obvious the source of his extreme internal drive the fact that he works all hours of the day every day that he talks later on and in the book his biggest regret is that he missed out on his three sons
entire childhood because all he did was work. He had extreme levels of dedication and obsession with building IKEA and when you look at his early life and keep in mind the words that he I'm about to read to you he is these are transcripts of interviews that he gave when he was 72 and so immediately he starts talking about his father the fact that his father is forced to work on the farm by his grandmother. Ingvar's grandmother is the matriarch the very powerful person in the family.
She reminds me that she's like this estate lauder type of character a personality and a person that dominates everybody around them and so he says my father was only 25 and he didn't want to be a farmer at all but his mother's word was law and he became her obedient tool. Similarly, father's brother had also wanted to go out into the world but he still loved on the farm. Grandmother said you're to stay at home and so he did. My uncle finally chose the same route as
his father and he shot himself in 1935. I was nine and so the backstory there which I think also tells why his grandmother had to be such a hard ass was they were German immigrants into Sweden. They had very few resources almost no money and their farm was failing and Ingvar's grandfather took the easy way out. He had two or three small kids and his wife was six months pregnant and he shoots himself and abandons them and so his grandmother finds herself in a strange country. No friends,
a failing farm and a bunch of children to take care of. So his grandmother absolutely dominates his father. Now he tells us and about his mother. My mother was loved by everyone. She was an amazing person to whom nothing was allowed to be impossible. Mother soon discovered the poor state of my father's business affairs. So I'm going to pause there where we know he we know that he came from a family of very limited resources. His father allowed himself to be dominated and to be told
what to do by other people. His father was very bad at business. His father did not have a lot of money. When you read about Ingvar's early life this is a perfect illustration of this principle you and I talk about over and over again that you can always understand the son by the story of his father the story of the father is embedded in the son and he's going to say so explicitly in
a few pages. So let's go back to his mom mom discovers hey my husband the father of my children is going to send us into poverty if I don't do anything she discovered the poor state of my father's business so she started a guest house. We rented out rooms to visitors we rented out every room every room was taken except my parents into which we all squashed together. My mother was a
heroine in silence. He loved his mother he admired her he just said she was loved by everybody listen to what happens next she contracted cancer before she was 50 she died at the young age of 53 I was 27 a few years later I started up a foundation for cancer research that bore her name
this theme of revenge is ever present in reoccurring in his life fate took my mom the person I probably loved more than anybody else for me at a young age I will have enough resources that I can set up a foundation for cancer research and name it after her the very thought of my mother's
death makes me weep he was 27 when she died he is 72 when he says that and then he moves into the fact that he was a born entrepreneur I suppose it was slightly peculiar in that I started tremendously early doing business deals my aunt helped me buy my first hundred boxes of matches
in Stockholm the hundred boxes of matches cost me 88 cents I sold the boxes at two to three cents each talk about profit margins I still remember the lovely feeling I can't have been more than five at the time later on I sold Christmas cards I caught fish and then would cycle around on my
bicycle selling them when I was 11 I was selling garden seeds selling things became an obsession it is not easy to know what might drive a boy more than a desire to earn money the surprise that you could buy anything so cheaply and sell it for a little more but here we go but I remember
walking in the meadows with my father I was 10 we came to a place at which he said I'd like to make a force track here but it would cost too much then we went somewhere else and again it was the money that was lacking to carry out my father's many plans I remember thinking at 10 if only I could
help father suppose I could get some money so that I could help father and this is the lesson that his little 10 year old brain took away from that to carry something out you clearly had to have means he starts that paragraph saying selling things became an obsession he ends up telling you why
he is telling us when he was a child he realized my obsession will fix the financial problems of my family and it's a few years later where he says a manager of a bank lent him about $63 which he considered to be a fortune at the time so that he could purchase 500 fountain pens from Paris this
was essentially the only real loan I have taken out in my life that is nuts trading was in my blood and he talks about another one of his heroes and this is going to be another source of revenge so his paternal grandfather shot himself right his maternal grandfather ran a little country store
and in bar when he was very very small would spend entire days in his grandfather's country store and he said grandfather had one great love on earth and that was me he became my very best playmate unfortunately he was just as kind in business life and he quite simply found it difficult
to accept payment so this country store no longer exists as a business but by sheer chance ikea took it over i bought the whole property and the site around it a furniture store now stands on the foundation of the country store revenge he says by sheer chance bullshit that was not chance
that was sheer will and then he goes back to talking about his relationship with his paternal grandmother the fact that she treated him differently he was special grandmother was a domineering person regarded with great respect but she liked me very much in contrast to most of the others
on the farm i never suffered at all from her dictatorial temperament in fact she gave him a lot of conference she was his first customer when i was about five and began buying and selling things she became my very special and my most faithful customer that gave me the courage to take the next step
and go on selling to the neighbors as well i was a child who loved both my stern grandmother and my good father i listened to their stories and of course as a child i was indoctrinated and pro germany so later on many decades later this i think in the eighties or nineties he he talks about this this
point of his life the fact that his grandmother was a fan of Hitler and sympathetic to the Nazi movement this comes up and almost ruined his life and so he says this was to have unexpected consequences in my life long after the political aberrations of my childhood and teens i was made to pay for this german influence to give you some context here his grandmother was from a german state called pseudonland and after world war one pseudonland became part of checklist of acha but his grandmother
was a german who did not identify nationally as a part of as a check so she would tell her grandson that the happiest day of her life was actually when nazi germany annex checks of acha in 1938 and obviously Hitler was in power at that time but from his grandmother's point of view the Nazis
were reuniting germans with germans and so what ingbor said it was he was indoctrinated into this ideology through his grandmother but he was too young to think independently he would have been 12 years old in 1938 and so anyways in nineteen eighty four this comes up the media says the founder
of ikea is a Nazi ingbor's response is to cooperate with the media he gives these long interviews he explains everything and then it blows over a few years later another media organization says hey actually you weren't a kid we might have evidence that you were actually still believing this when
you're in your thirties ingbor is able to disprove that but what was fascinating and ties more to you know the scope of what you and i want to talk about which is the way he built his business is the second time around what he was most mad at is they tried to say that he got the seed money
to start ikea from the Nazis and since he had already settled these allegations a couple years before it said he was furious that anyone thought he borrowed money at all and he says in his own words they could have accused me of murder but not of borrowing money and so let's go to the founding
of ikea he is 17 years old he is about to go to way to school he calls it the school of commerce he decides he wants to start his own trading firm so this is way before he goes any is exclusively a furniture dealer as that's the way he describes himself the rest of his life this point he's just
buying and selling all kinds of things and so when he seventeen he found the firm ikea the i is for his first name the k is for his second name the e is for the name of the farm he grew up on and a is for his hometown and so something that's common when you read a lot of biographies is you see
that true interest is revealed early so even before he found it ikea he was obsessed with some something that most kids are not obsessed with which is distribution he did not understand why he could buy something so cheaply and yet when he would see it in stores it was so expensive to buy
and so he uses the term that i wasn't familiar with to describe this obsession and i looked it up and it says that it's an idea that dominates the mind and obsession and what he's talking about is that distribution became an idea that dominated his mind and that was an obsession and so even before
he had his own business he would like go inside of like a shoe shop and he would see like this old fashion way they had a selling stuff they were like well you have to get on a ladder and you have to go up and down and just to fetch shoes and he would look at things in all these businesses like
this just cannot be rational because it seems to waste time and money remember he says wasting time and money is a mortal sin in ikea it's something that he was obsessed of and he's a little kid and so the first thing he does to start ikea he's just a mail order company and he'll go and find
importers and exporters and he'll become agents for them and so before he ever tries to sell furniture he's selling things like christmas cards seeds fountain pens wallets picture frames table runners watches jewelry nylon stockings and he actually gets the idea to start selling furniture
from one of his toughest competitors who's another mail order firm this firm called gunners and when he's 22 he decides to try to advertise what he calls an armless nursing chair that he calls root and because he's this lexic he couldn't remember the order numbers so he had to give instead of having order numbers he'd give all his products names which still continues to this day if you order something from ikea and so right away he realizes hey i think i stumbled into this to very something
very valuable says the response once he advertises this chair the response was unambiguous we sold a huge amount so then he doesn't stop just that chair says i go okay i'll advertise the sofa and a chandelier and this was the result everything went that was how the business started people ordered
on a mail order form from us and the factories delivered it to them this is when he's going to go all in on furniture and at the time ikea was a one man business but the demand was so great he says i could no longer remain a one man firm so in 1948 i appointed my very first employee two years
later the business had grown to a staff of seven or eight and this is how he describes the turning coin of his life so by chance the furniture trade which i entered in and an attempt to imitate competitors decided my destiny no other event in life pleases me more than the fact that i ended
up there my interest at first was purely commercial selling as much decent furniture as i could as cheaply as possible not until the first complaint started coming in did i realize that it was quality that was lacking one day that would force me to draw certain conclusions and choose another
way what he's talking about there is combining a mail order catalog with an actual furniture store and they did that because seven or eight years into the business it's the business is about to die and so he describes this time for us ikea was very much at a crossroads competition in mail order
had become almost unindurable a fact that one simple example can illustrate so all the mail order him and his mail or competitors they're all ordering from the same manufacturers so he talks about hey we're all selling the same ironing board and so if i advertise it for twenty three dollars
then my competitor will just come along and advertise it for twenty two and then another competitor will just come along and advertise it at twenty one and then eventually when we can't make money on that ironing board we'll find another ironing board and that that ironing board will be cheaper
but also lower quality and so he says step by step the surprise war affected the quality of the ironing board which became worse and worse the same applied to furniture complaint started to mount and i could see how things were going the mail order trade was risking an increasingly bad
reputation and in the long run ikea could not survive in that way the core problem with mail order was that the customers themselves could not touch the goods but had to rely on descriptions and the advertisement and the catalog so we were faced with a monumentous decision to allow ikea to die
or to find a new way of maintaining the trust of the customer and still make money and so in war is having a bunch of conversations with early employees at ikea is like how do we get out of this vicious circle of lower price worse quality than continuing lower price than even worse quality
and so the idea they came up with was hey why don't we try a permanent display or exhibition of our furniture and so in bar has a choice let his business dire try take a take a resting try something new so he winds up buying a run down out of business department store he spent sixteen
hundred dollars to get the store and then he has to invest another like seventy five thousand to renovate and get it ready to open and so it is a disappoint in nineteen fifty two that he stumbles upon out of necessity to save his company the blueprint upon which the future success that he's
going to have recipe on he says at that moment the basis of the modern ikea concept was created and in principle it still applies first and foremost use a catalog to tempt people to come to an exhibition which today is our store and so i think at the time this book is published remember the book
came out of the comes out in the late nineties they have something like you know 300 stores like that they had they had sent out by that time over a hundred million catalogs and he was the first one to do this mail order and furniture store in one that business idea had not been put into practice
anywhere else we were the first and so he sends out all these catalogs with all his products and telling them where and when the first store was going to open in the system results success was immediate but i have never been so scared of my entire life as well as we open and saw the line
outside there are at least a thousand people there i couldn't believe my eyes there was so many more people than he expected he was worried that the floor was going to collapse he says we didn't know whether the floor would hold all these people tens of thousands of people those first years were to
go on a pilgrimage to the remote all malt this is the little town he's in from all over Sweden most of them had learned about us through the free catalog so this is an idea i jotted down i've seen over and over again in fact i think i'm going to do another episode on Bernie Marcus
i haven't done one in probably like five or six years he was the founder from depot he just passed away recently and 95 years old so this is something he he talks about in his book uh it's in the books on on sam walton and walmart as well and we see the same concept is happening in barcamperant's
life is the idea that in human nature people will go to great lengths they will travel vast distances if they think they can save money that principles and the founding stories of walmart and the founding stories of hum deep one we see it again in the founding story of ikea and then i've
mentioned over and over again that you know he has a sermon on the culture of ikea he repeats the principles upon which he built his business he's talking about that very first store and listen to what he says ikea was taking shape as a real business many of our unwritten laws were already
written by that time so he talks about this repeats he's over and over and helpfulness thrift a strong sense of responsibility to this day talks about the imp... probably a hundred times i don't think there's a kindle version of this book so i can't search through it probably mentions the
importance of watching your costs a hundred times to this day at akea we try to translate everything into a clear price and state it our advertising brochures have on the front or back information on what they cost to compile often with an indication that it is in the end the customer who has
to pay for whatever we waste cost awareness was to be ikea's anthem and so he sets up the memory said earlier you know the ex if experts said hey good you know this tiny town of almart support when you want this giant furniture store people like of course you can't there was so many people
so a lot of the stuff that they're known for right childcares and all the akea the restaurants they were they were born on a necessity because so many people were traveling vast different distances to get to the store and since people are coming from all over the country like they need to place
this day and so he says gradually the pressure on this little town grew even greater it wasn't long before we opened a restaurant and we also had an in so a hotel or motel on the site with a hotel and cool my grandfather would have been amazed for the place which is old country store step by step
we were building our future philosophy and so to deal with this rapid growth the family turns into a business the business turns into a family they set up their offices at the time are on the farm and clear everything out to make room for the growing ikea headquarters so everybody in
the family is helping out in the business and i do think if you read between the lines and like the fact that he was just treated differently i think his family knew he was gifted i think his family understood that he was an unusual talent now it says his home became his office and his
office is home the farmhouse was cleared so that the boy not the farm could expand and so you got everybody in the family helping out the father's helping out the mother's helping out so it says the family became his firm and then a contradiction jumps out it says it appears contradictory that
this profoundly family bound man often neglected his own family for the sake of the business it was to be one of Ingvar's great sorrows and the cause of some soul searching that business made him neglect his three sons as they grew up he has done everything to make up for it since but
everyone with children knows that childhood does not allow itself to be reconquered i read this book for the first time i think close to five years ago that idea childhood does not allow itself to be reconquered has been imprinted on my mind i remember that line exactly is if i had read this
yesterday and not five years ago and then on the very next page he goes into another regret that you they you see a lot in biographies and i talked a lot of founders about this you know a lot of super successful founders they build giant companies and yet in private conversations they are
nostalgic for when the company was small so it says the transition from the closeness of the farm to the less intimate atmosphere of a large company was difficult for the founder essentially he has never really accepted it this is what he said that first wonderful time of strong working
fellowship with a circle of individuals all of whom i knew personally made me dream foolish dreams of it always remaining the same i nourished a false belief that it would be possible to preserve the feeling even when we grew large when i kia was a family that remains my very best memory and
so keep in mind when he says those words in bars reported net worth is around fifty billion dollars and so then he goes into just how difficult it was to build i kia remember the idea was like well everybody wanted me to write an autobiography i said no for 10 years and they said yeah but it'd
be a service to the future generation of entrepreneurs and so he doesn't hide you know what i would say i guess about this is in bar has an unusual personality compared to many of the people the unice study way higher levels of insecurity he's constantly crying he's very sentimental and he's still
even though his company's wildly successful rat with self doubt but i think one of the best things he did for future generations of entrepreneurs is like he didn't try to hide that says i have not been able to avoid severe losses both fiasco's and triumphs have marked the history of the business
and he talks openly about all the many moments of weakness he's like i wept a lot i couldn't bear adversity often i failed to look at things from the bright side the sad thing is i didn't even learn much from these early failures on the contrary i kept repeating them fiasco's have continued
throughout my life and so he goes through a list over the next several pages of all of these ideas and investments that i came did where he lost millions millions of dollars and so we had the idea we're going to sell TVs let's buy partial ownership and a television factory and in the 1960s
he said this one one mistake was one tragic investment cost ikea 25 to 30% of their total assets at the time and he's like but i didn't even learn from that because decades later i decided hey i'm going to dismantle a Swedish sawmill and i'm going to set it up again in russia and he loses about
12 to 15 million dollars on this because of the russian mafia this is his description of it by the way the russian mafia an endless Soviet type bureaucracy and the list just goes on and on a terrible investment in romania a terrible investment into an effectory in tailand he's like i we lost
hundreds of millions of dollars on projects like this over the years but even after all of this he repeats his philosophy that only those who are asleep make no mistakes making mistakes is the privilege of the active the fear of making mistakes is the root of bureaucracy and the enemy of
development and if you of his employees are interviewed in the book and they said that camprad preferred them to make mistakes rather than to be idle and so one thing they can help you overcome a lot of mistakes is if you're just in a great growing market and you're in there early there's
this concept that charlie monger talks about over and over again that he calls surfing and so when charlie we try to analyze like what caused the success of somebody he would look for some kind of wave that they were surfing so he would talk about like less Schwab was surfing the wave of brand new
japanese tire imports into america and the durability and low cost of those japanese tire imports gave him a massive advantage cost advantage over his american competitors another example you and i recently talked about was in that that episode on the rare bernard and all interview that he caught the early wave in china's luxury market expansion and so the wave that engvor camprad road was the fact that sweetens countryside was quickly becoming depopulated right when he started selling furniture
during the nineteen fifties alone fifty thousand farms closed down and those people moved into either the cities of the suburbs and this one paragraph is a great description of the wave that they're surfing the building program that came to have such an enormous influence on ikea or rather the need for ikea broke all records during the first twenty years after the end of the war one million new apartments were built the company quite simply was in step with an accelerating
development so as i've already mentioned throughout the book a dr. square he's constantly repeating these virtues that he used to build ikea the ones that he wants to to infuse the company spirit with the one he wants to such he preached to his employees constantly about and one of them i
haven't covered uh it's going to be really important for this next section this is the turning point of ikea into a truly differentiated business and so it's this idea of craftiness and i love engvor's definition of craftiness so he he defines craftiness the following way the craftiness
is the ability both to be content with the resources one has and to find ways out of tight spots and so one of the benefits that ikea enjoyed once they moved away from just a strictly male order is the fact that they saved on shipping they have a store their other competitors do not
they're all all the other competitors are strictly male order and so as ikea's costs get lower and the efficiency increases the prices go down and so all of ikea's competitors could not match ikea's prices so they band together and there is a trade association it's the national association of
furniture dealers and so the national association of furniture dealers does everything in its power multiple times to try to push ikea out of business and get in the way of engvor remember that definition he has of craftiness the ability to get your way out of tight spots so the first thing
they do is at the time trade fairs were really popular and it's a way a lot of people discovered in furniture they want to buy so he brought stuff from the store to the trade fair and so the trade association said hey you can't do that it's against the rules fairs are just for showing items
not selling them so they may as you get him banned from selling ad trade fairs he's like that's fine i'll still attend the trade fairs and i'll make sure that my prices are prominently displayed and since his prices were so much lower they then go and get him banned from even advertising the
price of his furniture and here's a description of this in the book a ridiculous game developed in which petrified conservative sales thinking was up against a new and insolent price pressure ikea was banned again and again again brewed doing anything but kept finding new ways of getting
around each ban if the company was not allowed to appear itself it would send another camprade own company exhibit or some reliable supplier in a letter from the national association of furnished dealers ikea was likened to a monster with seven heads if you cut off one another soon grows
so eventually he gets tired of this and he starts his own trade fairs and then another tactic that the national association of furniture dealers decided was like hey we're going to cut you off from your suppliers so they sent out they they organized the boycott they told all their suppliers listen
you can sell to one firm like ikea are you know all of us but if you sell to ikea we will no longer buy from you and so now they're starting to lose supply now there are a bunch of them said okay we can run a cassette i can't anymore some of them that i need to back this up because this is actually
really important we call nursing the supplier so i talked about this last week with house space x paid its vendors they paid like the you know and their competitors would pay like 30 or 60 or 90 days later space x would give you the money that day and so because they wanted their parts as fast as
possible so they're like well how do we get our parts parts as fast as possible we treat our suppliers better than anybody else in bar did the exact same thing so a manufacturer is giving an interview in this book and he talks about the difference between ikea and other furniture dealers i
kea paid within 10 days while others did not pay for three or four months nursing the supplier is one of camp rads principles one he's still in parts to his staff until this day so as a result some suppliers are saying okay you know i'm not i can't break this boycott i'm sorry i can't sell to you
others remain loyal to ikea but they would have to like deliver things to other addresses they would remove the logos from the delivery van so they can hide that they were the company making a delivery to ikea they'd do iq deliveries in the middle of nights and no one to find out and what his competitors and adversaries didn't understand is this constant pressure from them was a blessing in disguise because for one way around the boycott they're like okay you won't sell us this chair because
you know the other people buying this chair from you as well said if you sell to us they won't buy it from anywhere okay what if we make like slight alterations to the design and the suppliers are like oh well i can sell you that because i'm not selling that to them and so they start having a
differentiated product a product that none of their competitors are offering at prices their competitors couldn't match anyways and then the second way this was a blessing in disguise our guess is a second out of maybe three ways so the blessing in disguise was the fact they're like okay
this boycott and this constriction applies to the country of sweeten we need to start looking abroad for new suppliers and so another turning point in ingboracambrads career in the history of ikea is the fact that they start sourcing materials in Poland and so this is what ingbor said
about that the boycott simply reinforced our unity it was a crisis that became a non-crisis as we kept finding new solutions remember you cut off one of their heads another soon grows in ikea as business philosophy the whole matter should be inscribed as a golden rule it regard every problem
as a possibility new problems created a dizzying chance when we were not allowed to buy the same furniture as others we were forced to design our own and that came to provide us with a style of our own a design of our own and from the necessity to secure own deliveries a chance arose that
in turn open up a whole new world to us that was the beginning of our designing our own furniture and then that is going to directly lead to one of their innovations which is going to drastically reduce their costs and further differentiation them for their competitors it's going to lead to flat
packing and self assembled furniture it didn't look that way the time it didn't feel that way at the time because he's talking about crying himself to sleep he's completely depressed he's very stress going through all this but it was the best thing that could have ever this boycott was the
best thing that could have ever happened to him and so here's another example of them turning a problem into unlimited possibility so they're now designing their own furniture they have other alternative supplies and suppliers and so they're working on the catalog their photographing a table and one of and they go to pack up the table afterwards and one of their employees muddled something that changed the trajectory of IKEA forever he's like man this takes up a lot of space why don't we
take the legs off and put them under the tabletop and so they're like wait if we do that that changes everything and so they make their very first self assembled table it's called max and since itself assembled we had our first flat parcel and thus we started a revolution and ingora describes
it this way perhaps it could be said that reality forced the innovation upon us we've begun to experience a worrisome high percentage of damaged furniture and transport broken table legs that kind of thing now with flat packing the less damage occurred during transport and the lower the
free cost work that was the logic behind it thus self assembled bookcases chairs beds and other pieces successfully appeared there was an also unexpected benefit so okay you have less damage in transit you have way cheaper shipping costs and now that's flat pack the customer can take home the furniture that day if you were ordering like a mail from a another furniture like mail order you wouldn't get you in some cases you wouldn't get your furniture for months you could go to IKEA store
and pick it up that day and then another accident discovery of this which was proven after the fact they weren't doing it because of this but it turns out there's this cognitive bias where because the customer is now plays a role in actually creating and putting together the furniture
the customer now values IKEA's products more highly this cognitive bias which is discovered after the fact is actually called the IKEA effect and then Ingvar continues to realize benefits from this what it would you call this innovation that was forced upon us because now they can go all
we back to the source of the manufacturing and design the manufacturing process and make it more efficient as a result of flat packing and so he says it resulted in a design that was not just good but also from the start adapted to machine production and thus cheap to produce
with a design of that kind in the innovation of self assembly we could save a great deal of money in the factories and on transport as well as keep down the price to the customer and this goes back to this obsession when he was a little boy going into stores like why is it so expect cheap to buy
things is so expect expensive to sell them that peculiar obsession with distribution and so he says I kept asking myself why does a product that is so cheap to produce gets so expensive so quickly once passed a factory gate it was not difficult for me to see the advantages of self assembled
furniture and the superiority of flat parcels flat parcels saved enormously on storage and freight and in the long run they were to be the prerequisites for the next step customers taking home parcels of large furniture themselves and this point is important we were not the first
with this basic idea there was a small furniture store called NK in Stockholm that was reducing the stuff they called knockdown furniture which is essentially flat packed furniture that you had to assemble yourselves the difference was Ingvar was able to inject that idea into a system and a
flywheel that compounded all these advantages together over decades he says they just didn't realize what commercial dynamite they were concealing Ikea was the first to systematically develop that idea commercially and so we should get into why Ingvar was adamant about Ikea never being
a public company and then how he had to he's obsessed with this idea of giving his firm eternal life and so he talks about one of the benefits of being a private company is the fact that you know you're not for you can grow or not grow you can grow whatever pace you want you can take it your
time or not grow at all back a friend of mine when to becoming close to the his errors or the people still running the company and he told me something a few months ago is fascinating that they said one of the unfair advantages that private the private companies have is the fact that in in in Ikea's
case particular in particular there was like a 20 year period or something like that where you know growth was basically flat they were profitable they were still making money but they just weren't growing very fast and now they're growing much faster today than they were during that period
and so in this book Ingvar says still today we want to grow at our own pace so that we keep up not just with what is new but also develop what we already have Ikea's strategy has long been to take half of our resources to improve what already exists and the other half to improve what's in the
future we move at a somewhat slower pace than if we had had access to unlimited money so there is I think this is tied into something that happens later on the book that I think would be beneficial if it was here talks about the iron laws of Ikea that have been present since the birth of Ikea
number one a good cash reserve must always be insured number two all property must be owned number three all expansion is to be self financed number four they'll show be no boasting and so one problem he knew he had to solve was you know Sweden's in in here in the Texas were
really high and he knew he wanted his sons involved in the business the sons wanted to be involved in the business and so he starts thinking about you know how do I give this business it eternal life so it's not relying on one person it's not relying on one country and it starts off with just with
these handful of questions he's asking himself how can we keep the future of Ikea without inheritance taxes bleeding the company to death how can we avoid greedy interest in danger and what we've built up how can moves abroad be achieved without personally affecting me
and my family in a financially devastating way so to achieve this he hires an army of lawyers he's been almost a decade it is one of the most confusing corporate ownership structures I've ever seen in my entire life if you go to Ikea's Wikipedia page you can see like a flow chart of all this
I'll try to give you a simple overview of this labyrinth so the original Ikea company becomes a holding company whose profits are moved to a tax exempt nonprofit who then later moves that money into this foundation called inca which is based in the Netherlands then apart from that there's a
trust which owns a Dutch holding company which then owns another holding company in Luxembourg which then owns Ikea's intellectual property the book says the business structure that Ingvar with an understatement calls fairly unique in the world is so legally intricate that no
outsider is really able to understand it and bizarrely this foundation that he created now over over 50 years after he created it is the fourth largest technically the fourth largest charity in the world and so far has accomplished Ingvar's goal which was we're going to self-furniture that
can be taken apart and re-assembled but the company itself can never be dismantled and so I think the reason that he spends so much time repeating the principles and then doing like leading essentially the Bible studies what they call it he says over and over again that Ikea is a concept company
and then if we stick to the concept we will never die in fact in the book it's not just that their concept company they call the concept of Ikea the sacred concept the company Bible a furniture dealers testament which I read to you earlier has been reprinted and distributed to
over a hundred thousand employees all over the world they describe this annual sermon that he gives he says when he's doing it he is Billy Graham a preacher has become a household god a revivalist speaker and moralizing pastor he makes jokes tell stories and literally sheds a tear so he's constantly in the book bursting out which tears is very emotionally like his motions are right at the surface he describes his leadership as the noble art of hugging management and says he's
must have hugged several thousand Ikea employees but I think the most important part of this is to get across that repetitionist's face it it is altogether a repetition of 43 previous speeches the theme is the same Ikea's philosophy cost awareness the majority of people the dream of the good
capitalist hard work a mission to seek profit and glory and then he also repeats the need for humbleness over and over again he says never be cocking a moment of triumph always prepare for harder times he says they push cost awareness at all levels with almost manic frenzy he explains the laws of Ikea and why one of them must be that all property must be owned he said owning the properties might slow our pace of growth but it provides security no landlord can come in in 10 years time and
raise the ramp by 20% he believes in the ability to wait out difficulties he talks about the importance of gathering unfiltered intel from the front line so he's known they said they call the owners dawn raids he will literally appear unexpectedly at a store without warning sometimes at 5 30 in
the morning just to talk with the men delivering goods into the store he wants to know what the security was like what annoyed them the most where they give in morning coffee the people that are closest to him and the best say that his greatest anxiety and his full of anxieties is that Ikea won't
survive they say that he's almost maniacally oriented towards the future towards the next day they say it's impossible to satisfy him and that he will never be satisfied and if you ask Ingbor what kept him going well past that you know any financial needs are well passed retirement age
he says what keeps me going is the feeling that in a wider sense I'm participating in a gigantic project of democratization and it's his mission he asks in what way as an entrepreneur can I be of the most use I ask myself why do poor people have to put up with such ugly things was it necessary
that what was beautiful could be bought only by an elite a small elite for large sums of money and I've gone on demanding an answer from me all of my life and so at the end of the book the author is trying to give a summary like who is Ingbor camprade the man and he writes who is the man we have
followed through this book what should we call him manufacturer innovator the greatest small business entrepreneur in the world perhaps all of those rolled into one or something else we cannot fathom what drives him what makes him think as he does in governs his decision how much of Ikea
consists of Ingbor camprade and how much of camprade is Ikea there are days when he seems a prisoner's own system obsessed by expanding his own house while at the same time locked in it the day he is free of Ikea life for him will no longer be worth living he loves it always wants to
lie as close as possible to it and never tires of improving it he bombardes his people with a thousand ideas from a bottomless store thoughts crowding in and clamoring to get out Ingvor says a demon in me says I have so much to do I am never satisfied something tells me what I'm doing at
the moment has to be done better tomorrow he comes back again and again with painful self-searching and an almost bitter undertone to his defects even today behind this multinational tycoon is a country boy with a fierce sense of being an underdog standing on tiptoe and peering uneasily through
adult eyes am I good enough Ingbor recognizes himself as an outsider and in that way he is one of us all he knows what it's like to be odd to fall outside of the establishment to feel rage against injustices he has a peasants distressed of a favorable destiny that keeps his feet on the ground
he is full of regrets and eternal hope when asked he said would have missed most of my life was never taking the time to be with the children when they were young I have also talked about my many defects my lack of self confidence my difficulty making decisions my disastrous organizational
skills and all the horrible faults that I fully recognize in myself fortunately I've also been given a certain nose for business and a reasonable dose of peasant common sense finally I'm often asked whether when I was young was I able to predict the development that Ikea had achieved naturally not
although my dreams early on were both great and bold my life was to be spent demonstrating that a functional and good product does not have to be expensive that is still true today we still have a long way to go as I have written so many times and have said at the end of hundreds of speeches
we are just at the beginning of a glorious future and that is where I'll leave it for the full story highly recommend reading the book if you buy the book using a link that's in the show notes in your podcast player are available findersbuckets.com you'll be supporting the podcast at the same time I will also leave a link down below to the testament of a furniture dealer which you can read for free online that is 370 books down one thousand ago and I'll talk to you again soon.