So who exactly was this Floyd character I was referring to earlier? His name was Floyd Ray Wilson, and he was about 37. And for a year and a half in the late 1970s, he lived in my house. He used to date my mom's best friend Jackie, and years earlier, he would visit the apartment that my mom and I shared with her two roommates, Jackie and Lilian.
And every time he came by, it was exciting, because I thought Floyd was really cool, and I could talk movies with him, and since he was a hip guy who saw a lot of shit, he could keep up. I remember where Jackie introduced us. I was 10 years old, and she said Quentin, Floyd's who you should talk to about movies, he knows as much as you do.
So I, a 10 year old, started testing this grown-ass man on his knowledge of movies. Finally, I was able to talk to somebody about movies who knew what the fuck I was talking about. Also during this time, I realized the hard way that Floyd was a flaky guy who couldn't be counted on. On at least two occasions, he told me he'd come over next Saturday and take me to the movies.
Oh boy, I thought, not just talking about movies with Floyd, but actually going to the movies with Floyd. But when Saturday came, no Floyd, no call, no excuse, no apology, just no show. He either forgot, or he didn't give a shit. And I was so excited too. As the hours passed, and I waited, and I waited, and I waited, and it got later and later, I finally realized he wasn't coming. I wasn't mad, I was heartbroken.
I didn't even think of myself as a kid, but even I knew you didn't do that to a kid. But I forgave Floyd and played it cool the next time he came by. And a few visits later, he promised to take me out again. I made sure when he left that he remembered that we had plans, and I'd be waiting for him. And he said, of course, no problem. See you next Saturday.
And the fucking guy did it to me again. But this time, I wasn't heartbroken. I felt lousy, but not crushed. It was just now I knew who Floyd really was. He was an adult. I couldn't count on. This is a theme that's going to reappear over and over again. Quinten's, fierce, self-belief, and fierce independence, because he was surrounded by a bunch of adults. He couldn't count on. He was an adult I couldn't count on. I also promised myself when I grew up that I'd never do that to a kid.
Now, cut to 1978. I'm 15 going on 16. My mom's work is requiring her to spend more and more time away from the house. Or she wanted to, and that was a good excuse, so she ran with it. Which happened to coincide with the age that I started getting in trouble a lot. A lot of fights in school, skipping school, and staying out late. I was a young wise guy who thought he was tough. So mom rented Floyd a spare room in our house with the provision that she'd keep an eye on her 16 year old son.
I still thought Floyd was the coolest. Yeah, yeah, years ago, he stood me up. But since that time, I had gone through the whole trauma of being sent to Tennessee and put in the care of Hillbilly Alcoholics, I think that was his grandparents. So by that time Floyd being a flake was easy to forgive, but it equipped me with two pieces of information that would prove valuable as our relationship moved forward. One, I could not count on Floyd. And two, I cared more for Floyd than he cared for me.
I'm sure my mom thought she came up with the perfect solution for the whole what to do with Quentin Problem. At the time, I don't think she was aware of what a shady cat Floyd really was. Nor did she consider the ramifications of having her very impressionable young son spend so much time around such a sketchy dude. It was sort of like moving Samuel Jackson's character in Jackie Brown or Del Robbie into your home and having him look after your 16 year old boy for over a year.
And if you've seen Jackie Brown, then you know that or Del Robbie was a character that was a gun runner, killed people, and attempted to manipulate every single person around him. During the year of 1978 and some of 1979 Floyd and I saw a lot of movies together. During this time, the only family I had around me was my mom. But to us, her close circle friends were our family.
Her best friend Jackie was like my second mom. Her friend Lilian was like my aunt. Jackie's brother Don was like my uncle and they all looked out for me. Floyd in his own way looked out for me too. The difference between Floyd and them was while they loved me, Floyd didn't give a shit about me. Don't get me wrong. Floyd liked me. We had a good time together. You see, a guy like Floyd could like you and simultaneously not give a fuck whether you lived or died.
One doesn't contradict the other. If you're a guy like Floyd, not to say Floyd didn't have affection for me, but he was always looking out for number one. And that wasn't me. It's very much like Ordo Robbie and Jackie and Jackie Brown. And it wasn't the worst thing in the world to hang around an adult who didn't treat you with kid gloves, who told it to you like it is without too much concern for your feelings. Floyd never lied to me about me. He didn't care enough about me to lie to me.
Obviously, sometimes I've heard my feelings, but through Floyd, I received an authentic glimpse on the impression I was making on others. Floyd moved out in 1979. When Floyd moved out, he was gone, never to be seen or heard from again. And that was a story of Floyd. I didn't hold it against Floyd for not keeping in touch. I'm sure he had enough of me. And by that time he had done things to just chant everybody in our circle.
He was persona non grata with my mom due to some jewelry and a pawn shop. And I'm sure other things that I wasn't aware of. Nevertheless, Floyd Ray Wilson left a lasting impression on the 15 and 16 year old boy he mentored in the year of 1978, as well as a bit of legacy that he could have never imagined. What exactly Floyd did for a living all these years was open to wild speculation. Like everyone I've ever met like him, he always had stories of the days when he was living the high life.
But if he's 37 years old and moving into his old girlfriend's best friend's spare room and made to keep a lookout on her teenage son, he couldn't have been doing so well. Floyd was a very personable guy, yet he never had friends from the old days visit him, which I can't say rang any bells back then. But now I think it's due to the fact that he didn't have any old friends. People were in Floyd's life for a while and then they weren't.
But Floyd did have an ambition. Floyd wanted to be a screenwriter. By the time he moved into my house, he had written two screenplays. Floyd's two screenplays were the first two screenplays I ever read. The script that I loved, the first script I ever read was Floyd's epic western saga called Billy Spencer.
The story featured an incredibly cool black cowboy named Billy Spencer. The essence of what Floyd was trying to accomplish in that script, an epic western with a black heroic cowboy at its center, was the very heart of what I loved. The heart of what I was trying to accomplish would jango unchained. But even more influential than any script was having a man trying to be a screenwriter living in my house.
Him writing, him talking about a script, me reading it, made me consider for the first time writing movies. It would be a long road from that year of 1978 to me completing my first feature length screenplay, true romance in September 1987. So another theme, that's 11 years between the idea and the completion of the idea. That's going to be another main theme in Quentin's life. The fact that he uses ideas, you know, sometimes decades later after he discovers them.
But due to Floyd's inspiration, I tried writing screenplays. I usually never got that far, but I tried and eventually I succeeded. So what happened to the script for Billy Spencer? Nothing. I'm sure at the time of his death, Floyd was the only one who stood out a copy of it.
And whenever he died, wherever he was, it was disposed of with the rest of his meager possessions. And whatever trash can it was tossed into was the final resting place of Floyd Ray Wilson's dream of a black cowboy hero named Billy Spencer. My dream of a black cowboy hero, Django Unchained, was not only read, it was made by me into a worldwide smash, a smash that resulted in me winning the Academy Award for Best Original Screenplay.
By the time I walked up to that podium and accepted the Oscar, Floyd was long since dead. I don't know how he died, where he died, or where he's buried, but I do know that I should have thanked him. That was an excerpt from the book that we talked about today, which is cinema speculation, and is written by Quentin Tarantino. Tarantino is probably my favorite filmmaker. This book is on like any other book that I've read so far for the podcast.
I'm going to read from the front flap, like the front cover, about what, like what's going on here. And one of my favorite lines, and that jumps out, I says Tarantino is possibly the most joyously infectious movie lover alive. He's been obsessed with movies for 53, 54 years. And so it describes what this book, this unusual book is.
At once film criticism, film theory, a feat of reporting, and a wonderful personal history, it is all written in the singular voice recognizable immediately as Quentin Tarantinos. With the rare perspective about cinema, possible, only from one of the greatest practitioners of the art form ever. But that idea is that it's written in the singular voice recognizable immediately as Quentin Tarantino. I think the lesson for you and I is the importance of having a very distinct, distinctive brand.
I've seen all of Tarantinos movies multiple times, I've watched all his interviews. I hear his voice. When I read this book, I don't hear the words in my voice. I hear it in his, and that idea that he has a singular voice that's recognizable immediately as his own. I might be of something more buffet said on the power of brand. Warren said, everyone has something in their mind about Disney.
When I say universal pictures or 20th century Fox, you don't have anything special in your mind. If I say Disney, you have something special in your mind. So is a mother going to walk in and pick out a universal pictures video in preference to Disney? That's not going to happen. And that is what you want to have in a business.
That is the mode and you want to, you want to widen that mode. And that is exactly what Tarantino has. And I would argue is one of his most valuable assets. And so I think this book gives you, gives going to help give you an idea of like, how did that come to be? It's very unusual. Like, it's not really an autobiography. You're going to, like, learn about his life. But what he's doing is it's like writing these in depth reviews of these movies that he watched in the 70s and then early 80s.
There's maybe like eight to 10 that he goes in detail. And it's through this analysis that we get an idea of what was going on in his life at the time. And so here's something that's going to jump out because it starts out. He starts being a, becoming obsessed with movies at seven years old. This idea that true interest is revealed early is certainly true for Tarantino.
And his mom, this is going to be a main theme. His mom let him watch adult movies at a very, very young age. And so something I thought about a lot was other parents would say this is a bad idea. In fact, some other parents wouldn't let their kids play with Quentin because he was watching all these crazy movies.
So other parents would say, okay, this is a bad idea. Yet this supposed bad idea leads Quentin to his life's work. And if you think about it, like he's watching them at say a decade before, you know, we're like 17 18. You're probably watching a bunch of R rated movies. He's watching them at seven and eight.
And so it's almost like he had a decade of extra practice and study because of his mom's quote unquote irresponsible decision. So let's jump right into that. He says my young parents went to a lot of movies around this time and they usually brought me along. I'm sure they could have found someone else to pawn me off on, but instead they allowed me to tag along.
But part of the reason I was allowed to tag along was because I knew how to keep my mouth shut. I was encouraged to act mature and well behaved because if I acted like a child is paying in the ass, I'd be left at home with the babysitter. I didn't want to stay at home. I wanted to go out with them. I wanted to be part of adult time.
When they took me to the movies, it was my job to sit and watch the movie, whether I liked it or not. And so this is the first example of this lifelong hobby that he's going to have where it says, you know, the front cover. He is possibly the most joyously infectious movie lover alive. This idea of being in love movies and then analyzing them is going to be the foundation of his life's work when he starts making his own. So he starts asking questions about the meaning of films from very young age. There's a ton of examples like this in the book. So he's talking to his mom.
After they just watched Butch Cassidy and the Sundance kid. And so that movie ends with the implication, but they do not show it that all the people died. And so he said, what happened? I remember asking. They died my mom informed me. They died. I helped. Yes, Quentin. They died. My mother assured me. How do you know? I asked.
Because when it froze, that was what it was meant to imply. Why didn't they show it? I asked almost indignantly. They should have shown it. And as you know from his movies, he definitely chose to show it when a child read. This is the main point of why I'm reading this to you. When a child reads an adult book, there's going to be words he don't understand. But depending on the context and the paragraph surrounding the sentence, sometimes they can figure it out. Same thing when a kid watches an adult movie.
On the right home from the movies, even if I didn't have questions, my parents would talk about the movies we had just seen. These are some of my fondest memories. These are some of my fondest memories. It was interesting to review the movie that I had just seen from there from the perspective of their analysis. So this in depth study of movies forms the basis of his entire career. By the time he starts writing his own scripts and making his own movies. He has a comprehensive database of movies in his head.
If you were to have some kind of contest for movie history trivia of all the filmmakers alive, I highly suspect that Tarantino would win back to this in that year of 1970. I saw a lot of intense shit. He is seven. He is seven in the year of 1970.
Because I was allowed to see things that other kids weren't, I appeared sophisticated to my classmates. And because I was watching the most challenging movies of the greatest movie making era in the history of Hollywood, they were right. I was. At some point when I realized I was seeing movies other parents were letting their children see. I asked my mom about it. She said, Quentin, I worry more about you watching the news. A movie is not going to hurt you.
This was Quentin's response when his mom said that to him, his mom's name is Connie. It is interesting that he refers to her by her first name, but he says right fucking on Connie. And so before I go on, it's really fascinating to think about this. Most parents would say that Quentin's mom was making the wrong decision, letting her young son watch these violent, R rated movies, especially the movies in the 1970s. He feels like that was the best age of movies.
If you go back and actually analyze, he took a bunch. This is this is going to be incredible. This is again why you and I know that we're on the right path over and over and over again. We see the people that gets the top of their profession. They have this comprehensive database in their head of the history of all the great work they came before them. There's a ton of, you know, I've been watching,
I've been watching, turn to movies forever. I didn't know until I read this book. There's exact lines, there's themes, there's ideas that all he was doing is taking ideas from the 70s and then adapting him to his own work. But going back to this, it is impossible to read this book and not think that her decision was helpful to his future career.
And this is something I was thinking about myself because I was watching these movies when I was watching Scarface and Godfather and all these violent movies when I was like a small kid. Yet with my own kids, I don't let them do that. I was watching, I think I watched, this is crazy. So if people were to ask me, they're like, you know, I look at a founder, this is like one giant conversation on the history of entrepreneurship that I'm just constantly updating every week and I hope to have, you know, for the rest of my life.
So I really don't look at it as they're updated in separate episodes, but it's just one conversation. But if you ask me like what I think the best episode ever was capable of making, I think the best episode I've ever made so far was episode 311 on James Cameron. And what happened with that is I kept trying to sit down and record. I couldn't stop finding more interesting things about James Cameron. And so I kept pushing it back and pushing it back and pushing it back. I did the exact same thing.
I've been in listed Quentin Tarantino Deep Hole for, you know, two over two weeks because I can't stop finding interesting fascinating things about this guy. And so you read this book and he mentions a movie made or then I'm watching what your interviews with him at the same time. So then I go back and watch the movie and like, oh, I missed that. I didn't even understand it the first time.
And so during this time, I remember my daughter who's only 11, she comes in just as like you can't like listen, I love you. I love you. I love to spend a ton of time with you. There's no way that you can watch in glorious bastards or Django and chained or pulp fiction, which are the movies I've been watching. And I'm making that decision with my daughter and it probably is the right decision in the face of the fact that, you know, everybody said this is a responsible.
They're literally not letting the friends at school. Their parents are not letting them hang out with Quentin because what his mom lets him see. And there's just impossible. It is absolutely impossible to read this book and not realize that that was actually the right decision. The obsession of movies grabs him right at a very young age and it never lets him go. I love this idea that people don't have ideas ideas have people.
And I think that's a great explanation of what happened with Tarotino. There's a podcast I listen to. There's a bunch of podcasts and interviews I listen to to prep for this conversation as well. And one of them was on the he was he was interviewed best friend Brian Coppeman on the podcast the moment. And was fascinating. It's Tarotino says that like this comes naturally like he thinks in movies.
So he's going to talk over and over again about all the books that he reads. He's obsessed with he does not come to surprise you. He's obsessed with reading biographies and autobiographies of filmmakers actors all kinds of people. But he says when he reads books that he thinks in terms of movies. So he literally will make the book that he's reading into a movie in his head. And so he says as he reads he puts a notepad next to him where then he starts writing casting list.
He's like you know there might be 15 characters in the novel these reading or biography or autobiographies reading. And he starts like okay well who if this was if this book was a movie who would play that he starts adapting the plot. He's like okay well I can I would add I would add to this like plot line or I'd remove that or I would do it this way. And he was like that from a very young age it was very fascinating the reason I brought this up is because he talks about you know.
I felt I was more sophisticated in my classmates because I was watching the most challenging movies of the greatest moving making error in the history of Hollywood. What was interesting is he was so uninterested in score because he was so obsessed with movies that people thought he was dumb. And so if he didn't care about school work it was like zero or 100 right is like I'm going to be completely obsessed with movies.
Any my school work that's not movies I don't care about but he was reading an adult level way he's obviously not stupid. He was reading an adult level way before a lot of the other kids. And so people would make fun of him because he got bad grades and he said that there was one supportive teacher. It's getting Mr Simpson and Quentin's in like a public school and he's like listen Mr Simpson saw something in me thought I was special.
He didn't he thought I was vastly underperforming because I would you know read I could read and have intelligent conversations about what I'm reading. But I wasn't doing any school work and so this guy this teacher devised an entire separate curriculum just for him. And when other people in the class would make fun of Quentin and say oh Quentin's kind of dumb Mr Simpson would get up and he would stop like the bowling. He said listen Quentin is reading on a level so far superior to you.
He's reading on an adult level. He's reading on my level is what Mr Simpson would say. And then another interesting clue about the depth of his obsession is that he starts writing screenplays instead of doing his school work. And he's like you know why is in the school. He says I was a little surprised that the school wasn't looking at this as an academic thing. They looked at my writing and creating stories as they defined active rebellion.
And they did that because essentially turned Tino's creating his own curriculum instead of just regurgitating or accepting what they're giving him to learn. So then in the book he starts to talk about his childhood. There is a million notes that I have left to myself as I'm reading this book. Where is Quentin's dad? Where is his dad? Where is his dad?
I'm asking this over and over again because his stepfather he referred to his parents earlier that's his stepfather Kurt turns out I didn't know he's never mentioned in this book but it's obvious that he's like yearning for some kind of male like positive male role model or figure in his life. And I don't think you've ever found one as you heard he's hanging out with or Dell Robby Floyd Ray Wilson when he's like you know 1617 that's not the person I want my son with when he's 16 or 17
and what I found out later that he never knew his dad I think his mom got pregnant super early I would guess I couldn't find the exact date but my guess is based on my what I like the context around it's like probably 18 maybe 20 something like that maybe 21 and so he never met his biological dad his dad was never there.
But his mom was getting divorced from his stepdad and then when Quentin is 10 years old this is what I meant about one of the main themes that this kid had to grow up this guy I guess he was kid.
This kid grew up fast and so now he's living with his mother in an apartment he grew up in LA okay there all cocktail waitresses and it's his mom his herb and her two best friends Jackie and Lillian and so he describes this time in his life he says all three were young hip good looking women in the funky 70s with a penchant for dating professional athletes.
Remember he is 10 during this time my mother was dating a professional football player named Reggie Reggie asked to hang out with me being a football player he asked does Quentin like football she told him no he likes movies well as luck would have it so did Reggie
and this one's a being a very important Reggie is not going to stick around and this is where the weird thing that's in the book like these guys are you know there's like a let's just say a steady stream of people coming in and out a series of men that his mom were dating and we in some of those men Quentin would watch movies with and one of those guys introduced him to this genre that's going to be that came around the 70s that is hugely influential to Quentin's movie career
and I think it's pronounced black's pluritation and so Reggie introduces them to this genre because he says my little face was the only white face in the audience that was my first movie in an all black movie theater and a black neighborhood
and he absolutely loved it he says as far as I was concerned mom could marry this cat to one degree now this is crazy this is all going to tie together and then you see the influence on his work later but it says to one degree or another I've spent my entire life since both attending movies and making them trying to recreate that experience of watching a brand new Jim Brown film on a Saturday night in a black cinema in 1972 the mass this is the interesting part which I didn't put together again this is why it's not going to be a big deal of the same thing.
I put together again this is why I think it was so helpful to me to constantly like put off like I sat down I was like oh I'm not ready I'm not ready I can't I keep finding more interesting things because I didn't understand the full context around this till you know two weeks maybe a week and a half after I read this the massive theater full of black males cheered in a way the nine year old little me had never experienced in a movie before
at the time remember I kept asking where is quentin's dad where is quentin's dad at the time living with the single mother it was the most masculine experience I had ever been part of.
Remember the scene that reappears over and over again in these books you can always understand the sun by the story of his father the story of the father is embedded in the sun quentin didn't know his father and so I'm watching this I might do it completely separate episode on it because it's so it's so excellent I might I'm going to have to do another quentin episode.
Down the line but he's he's being interviewed by Robert Rodriguez in this series called director's chair and what they also do is you know it's directors interviewing directors and then they also take questions from other directors and one of them was very surprising.
They're like hey are you ever going to do I think maybe Francis Ford Coppola was asked asking the question to which is fascinating because you can always understand the sun by the story of his father the story of the father is embedded in the sun comes from Francis Ford Coppola's biography that I covered back on two forty. Wow I didn't put that together till just now so that's incredible he at so I'm almost positive.
Francis Ford Coppola's one to ask him the questions like are you ever going to do anything more autobiographical is it always going to be like somebody you know. Quentin writes all of his movies I think he wrote every single one except for Jackie Brown and so. He says like he did do auto this is going to be surprising this was shocking to me that the most autobiographical film that he did was kill Bill.
What the hell what do you mean how is it impossible if you've seen kill Bill one and two which also interesting enough. Quentin thinks it's just one movie he thinks of kill Bill one and two is one movie but he said it was more that most autobiographical movie that he ever did he just hit it under a bunch of metaphor and stories and everything else.
And so I'm re watching kill Bill and there's a line about Bill in kill Bill to that I think applies to Tarantino if you combine this book with his movies with these interviews with that random question. And he says like most men who never knew their father bill collected father figures I think that was what Quentin was doing and the way he did it was by movies.
He was looking for these male father figures in movies and what's fascinating is how much I believe to that my friend Jeremy Gafon has this ability to get right to the heart of the matter one time and one time just randomly said to me so it's pretty obvious what you're doing with the podcast.
So what do you mean and he said in your entire family there's never been a successful role model so that's what you're doing these biographies it's this obsessive search for a successful blueprint that you can emulate. And I had never consciously had that thought before but as soon as it came out of his mouth was like oh he's right.
And so let's go back to Tarantino's childhood later on in life he was he was well known for his film knowledge and his video recommendations so like when he was working at his job he's working minimum wage trying to rate scripts.
He's working at video archives which is a video rental place in Manhattan Beach but everybody in the local community knew about the weird movie nerd at the video archives because he had this extensive film knowledge and video like video recommendations that would come directly from his brain later on life like when people he said when people ask me if I went to film school I tell them no I went to films.
And so this entire book is teaching you the importance of reps reps reps Tarantino was kidding on a lot of reps at a very young age he talks about the fact that he would go to double and triple features. I don't think they even do this movie theaters anymore it's like you watch one movie then they immediately after start playing a second movie and then in some cases they immediately after playing a third movie or sitting in the movie there for seven eight nine hours.
The depth of his obsession cannot be understated a young Tarantino for some reason he doesn't mention why but he has a child psychologist and he says when he does sessions with her all they would talk about is the movies that they saw.
And so this is what a typical weekend would look like between the ages of eight to 11 years old my mom would drive me to the cinema on a Saturday on Saturday and Sunday afternoon then drop me off and come back and pick me up four or five hours later and so this goes back to his mom's unusual usually relaxed attitude about movies.
He's leading directly to his phenomenal career because by the time he starts making movies and writing his own scripts you know 11 15 years later he's got this encyclopedic knowledge of his industry just like Charlie monger just like Sam Zell just like Kobe Bryant just like Magnus Carlson the dominant chess player I was listening to my friend Patrick's podcast invest like the best it's episode 348 I'll link it down below but it's Patrick and John Carlson with the founders stripe and.
The title of the episode is a business state of mind but they mentioned something that episode is very fascinating that Magnus Carlson who's you know dominating chess when he was younger he entered some chess trivia contest it was just chess trivia and he wanted he knew the most chess trivia
out of anyone who's in this contest and that's this is I'm quoting from the episode he knew the most chess trivia out of anyone who is in this contest and that's not a coincidence that the world's number one player has also studied the most about all chess history he's extremely knowledgeable on that you could say the exact same thing about Tarantino
and so if you study Tarantino's love and dedication to his craft you can help up compare to your love and dedication to your own and so there's an incredible story about this and it's very simple like how bad you actually want it you can tell that Tarantino deeply deeply wanted it this story about tell you takes place a decade a decade before he writes his first success he successfully sells his first screenplay says when I saw the movie rolling thunder with my mother and her boyfriend Marco in nineteen years ago
in nineteen seventy seven it blew my fucking mind I loved rolling thunder for a period of ten years I followed it all over Los Angeles whenever and wherever it played this is way before home deep or home deep oh this is before home video this before streaming you literally had to wait until is they would replay movies over and every I don't think they do this now and then he would go all over the city of Los Angeles looking for this I did this before I knew how to drive a car
or before I had a car I would travel by bus hours away from my home to some really sketchy neighborhoods to see rolling thunder after I watched the film a few times and began to have a deeper understanding of it again this is another thing he will tell over and over and you hear this in conversations you hear this and writing he's like oh yeah watch that movie 15 times I watch that movie six times it's not one or two movies he did this for he repetition repetition repetition repetition
you know what's insane Tarantino made his own read wise he made his own founders notes he had he has scrapbook so this is what he does he's comparing his love of dedication to films compared to this other director and he says this guy didn't
nor did he keep scrapbooks make notes and keep files on index cards of all the movies he saw growing up like I did that is read wise and founders notes before software he's got the analog version of that he's cut a database of index cards of every single thing and files on all the movies he had growing up
it would be almost impossible to approach whatever you're working on like Tarantino approach what he was working on and not come out success on the other time but this story is not over so he's like okay I'll get on a bus I will travel by bus for hours just to see this movie I will watch it over and over and over again so I can have a deeper understanding of the film this is exactly like Napoleon the advice Napoleon gave you and I a couple weeks ago on episode 337 what did he say you know do you watch one movie one time do you read a book one time do you listen to podcast one time well good you're going to get
dusted by the people that repeat repeat repeat and put in more reps to point of said read over and over again the campaigns of Alexander Hannibal Caesar Frederick the great make them your models this is the only way to become a great general to master the secrets of the art of war with your own genius enlightened by this study Quentin Tarantino was enlightening his own genius by this study by building this database by taking these notes by going to such great lengths and what is he do next
that film rolling thunder made me a champion of its director John Flynn so much so that I sought out I saw him out at 19 to interview him how does he do that how did I manage that simple but not easy I looked up every John Flynn in the phone book called them up and asked
him is this John Flynn if they said yes then I asked him the John Flynn who directed rolling thunder till eventually one said yes it is who is this wow it's fucking him I had never spoken to a movie director before no less the director of one of my favorite
movies so I introduce myself and told him I was writing a book on film directors and could we get together an interview and could I interview him about his career and he agreed and we set a time and he invited me over to come over to his house and conduct the
interview as we sat down in his living room to conduct the interview I began asking my questions and testing my theories about rolling thunder I was so inexperienced at what I was doing that I brought my tape recorder with me but I only brought one cassette I could not imagine him
giving me more than an hour so one obviously did so once both sides of the tape were done I didn't want to look like an idiot so I just kept flipping it over and re recording over what I just recorded so all the stuff on his early career was lost forever that is the end of that
story that is why I titled that story how bad do you want it there's another story that you and I talked about in the past Steve jobs was 14 years old looks up bill he was a good the founder the co founder of HP right he's got a question wants to make frequency counters he calls them up bill answers
the phone he's like hey I'm Steve jobs of 14 years old I want to make frequency counters can I have some extra parts bill laughs and laughs and laughs start us hilarious gives them the parts and gives him a summer job on the assembling line at HP when he's like 14 years old
assembling frequency counters so I want to go back to where this started this unexpected benefit of his mom's unusually relaxed attitude would hook out these violent movies these are ready to movies these adult movies right that directly leads to the you know a decade extra of time and reps and study and which that in turn leads to this is psychopedic in psychopedic knowledge of his industry the the people I mentioned earlier in addition to
Napoleon was Charlie monger Sam Zell and Kobe I didn't get a chance to meet Kobe before he passed away unfortunately but I got a chance to meet both Charlie monger and sam zell before they died and I'm telling you right now I spoke directly to Charlie monger for three hours can ask him any
question I wanted I spoke to sam zell for two hours could ask him any single question I want they know the stuff down pat and I met sam zell before I met Charlie monger and I remember coming back to my house and telling my wife I was like I want that I want that at 81
years old right I didn't know he was going to die six months later or maybe even less than that four months later but you know to be he was still so fired up about what he was doing he wanted it like he didn't he's like what am I going to retire there's nothing to retire from you
know the guys got billions and billions of billions of billions of dollars not doing it for money doing it for the love saying he's going to do deals so he dies but what I when I came back from that that conversation was you know he started he was hit 61 years
experience as an entrepreneur and I'm supposed to be the business history guy and for two hours there's not one thing that I could bring up that sam zell didn't already know and I came back and I remember telling my wife I was like I know I'm on the right path you don't sell a company for
38 billion dollars like sam zell did then you learn all this shit you don't make incredible movies like Django and chain and various bastards and Pulp fiction and then learn all this shit you learn it way before in some cases decades before you use it
there's no way you can tell me that you and I are not on the right path that they that this this complete dedication to trying to condense clarify this comprehensive knowledge of history of entrepreneurs were clearly on the right path you see it over
and over and over again in these people to get to the top of their profession so people that literally get become great at what they do whether it's war chess politics business filmmaking it's all the same athletics you see it over and over and over again and the great thing is
turned to as much older than I am much more accomplished and I'm like oh there's I thought I was dedicated to this I was like oh there's levels to this there's a great example he's a constantly comparing contrasting you know some filmmakers he likes but he's like oh it's it's a job to them it's an obsession with me and so he talks about directors like Sam peck-and-paw and Don signal sigle who made great films Don signal made dirty Harry they were genre film masters that's what
Tarantino calls them but he says but they didn't make genre film films the way that I do as students of genre Simona we make films because we love genre films they made genre films because they were good at it and that's what the studios would hire them to do and so when Tarantino studies other people just like when I study him it's like oh that fires me up I want that just like what I said to my wife when I met Sam's out I want that
Tarantino before he makes movies he starts seeing other people that aren't treating this like a job they're treating it like something they have to do the people he's about to go into and you know Tarantino even if he couldn't figure out a way to do it
professionally he was going to make films no matter what for money or not for money he was going to do it no matter what and so he starts seeing the movie brats this is in the 1970s and he's like oh my god their film nerds like me and so I've done a bunch of
episodes on the movie brats these are the first so Tarantino is going to give us some background here right they're the first for film school educated generation of young directors that were raised on television so you're thinking France is for Coppola
Brian Dupalma Martin Scorsese George Lucas Steven Spielberg this part is important right so he's saying what set the movie brats apart from the earlier generation of directors that had come before them even more than their youth and the film school education was the fact that they were film geeks true interest is revealed early right you can find somebody that's going to want to make film wants to play basketball
wants to start businesses wants to invest you you look at their childhood there's going to be signs early people don't have ideas ideas have people the ideas grab them early when I'm reading this I listen I should be obviously this is not a job to me I am completely an utterly obsessed I work on founders podcast seven days a week well what was I doing before that I did the first time I discovered a podcast was in 2010 you know I'd been obsessed with radio spoken word like it was so hard
to find like I grew up there was no you know obviously no internet well later on my childhood there's internet but you have to listen to like AM radio and then I remember the day where like it was magic where I had to be in the car trying to listen to AM radio you know I listen to
AM radio and everything politics sports religion advice columns everything and I remember the day when you could the first time you could actually listen not in your car you could you could stream it on in your browser like it would the internet speech or slow back
and it would like buffer sometimes even though it's just audio so this is incredible but the first time I discovered actual podcast which change everything because it's like oh it's independent such you have a radio station your pocket and you can listen to any time you want was in
2010 from 2010 to 2016 right I started this podcast in 2016 I listen to thousands of episodes and so you're seeing a very similar thing with Toronto and then the movie breaths because he's like oh they're nerds and he says they loved movies they dreamed of movies they even received
degrees and movies back when that was a dubious major and so this is what Tarantino is realizing why that's so important because that's how you truly get great at what you're doing gets the top of your profession because he sees jaws and so this is
Tarantino on Steven Spielberg and greatness when jaws came out in 1975 it was easily the best movie ever made nothing ever made before it came close because for the first time the man at the helm wasn't executing a studio assignments but a natural born
filmmaker genius who grooved on exactly the this kind of movie and would kill himself to deliver the exact version of it that was in his head and there's another time in the book that he brings up jaws and Steven Spielberg he says Steven Spielberg's jaws is one of the greatest movies ever made
because one of the most talented filmmakers who ever lived when he was young remember this part because Quentin has made a public that his next movie is intense is next movie to be his last and I'll get there right after this so I don't forget just remember this
the one he was young part Steven Spielberg jaws is one of the greatest movies ever made because one of the most talented filmmakers who ever lived when he was young got his hands on the right material knew what he had and killed himself to deliver the best version of that movie that he could
so let me put the book down I need to go to my notes oh in fact this is hilarious so one of the things I was doing was I bought all of the all of his movies and a few of them came with like extra like you know there's like back in the day when you buy DVDs
they have like not even extra scenes but like interviews and stuff and so one of the extra scenes from his movie once upon a time in Hollywood ends with Tarantino leading a chant while they're on set I think they closed on Hollywood Boulevard to do that scene and he's leading a chant with this entire crew because we love making movies because we love making movies because we love making movies that was his last the last film he's made so far he's got to be close to
you know 60 years old the time and yet you can picture if you read this book and you spend time studying him you knew that he would you would do the exact same thing when he was 10 15 25 and so one of the anyways I watched your Tarantino was when Tarantino came on Joe Rogan's podcast to promote his book once upon a time in Hollywood and you know he was joke at push and I was like why like I'm a huge fan why are you trying to like I don't want you to stop making movies and Tarantino says he
goes I want to leave on top so I'm planning my next movie to be my last I want to leave the audience wanting more but also the fact that I know about film history influences that decision so what do you mean he goes I know about film history film
directors do not get better as they get older as Tarantino said film directors do not get better as they get older I don't want to leave when my powers of movie making and movie making abilities are diminished and he used the example of Muhammad Ali fighting too
long you know he wants to leave he wants to be the Muhammad Ali that leaves before he fights Leon Spinks but again I love this idea this historic database that he is in his mind of film history he knows I like I'm not learning is not memorizing information right learning is changing your behavior.
Quentin clearly is learning from history because he's using those ideas in his work and you can see him and so this one is like I have to do this film directors do not get better as they get older so then I want to bring up the fact that he starts making movies in the 90s right he was in his influences were in the 70s and the way he made movies in his 90s were not only influenced by the 70s they're also influenced by the 80s in the 70s who is emulating what he liked in the 80s
he was trying to do the opposite of what he hated and so he says after growing up in the anything goes 70s the 80s marked it as a play it safe decade the 80s was a horrible decade the restrictions Hollywood imposed on their product where self imposed a harshest form of censorship is self-sensorship and so he talks about the 80s where when every movie had to have a happy ending everything had to be predictable and so the only way to fight against that is to build
remember there's no point in criticizing just build what you want to see in the world and that's exactly what he did and so keep in mind he's writing so I don't know if I think I've said this already but if just in case I got a little excited so just in case I forgot.
Tarentino is like making $150 a week working at a video rental store that's what he was doing when he's writing his first script the plan was to try to sell script the first script he sells is true romance then use that money to fund his first movie which winds up being rest for dogs and so this is Tarentino looking back on this point of his life where he's just refusing to self-sensor and he's refusing to play it safe and so he writes I remember when I worked at the Manhattan Beach video store
video archives and I would talk to the other employees about the types of movies that I wanted to make and the things I wanted to do inside of those movies and their response would be Quentin they won't let you do that to which I replied back who the fuck are they and who is going to stop me they can go fuck themselves I wasn't a professional filmmaker back then I was a brash know it all film geek okay his self confidence obviously when you hear him speak when you hear him right
excessively high it was like that way before belief comes before ability he before he ever made a movie he had self confidence that he could make the movie and one of his great friends is the other filmmaker rubber or you guys and he even brought it up in the interview like oh we know you know you're obviously very self confident and they were self confident back when they were like kids they were talking about hanging out when they were
they were first trying to make it they'd go like Quentin's like crappy apartment and watch movies all day I think they were in like their early 20s when they were doing this and Quentin was like that back then and so you see these like you know I'm not going to let them stop me forget them I wasn't a professional film maker back then I was a brash know it all geek yet once I graduated to a professional film maker I never
did let they stop me viewers can accept my work or rejected they can deem it good bad or within difference but of all this is such an interesting there's a great line such an interesting idea but I've always approached my cinema with a fearlessness of the eventual outcome a fearlessness
that comes to me naturally I've always approached my cinema with a fearlessness of the eventual outcome a fearlessness that comes to me naturally and you know that is true because he is he he is going against the trend he is swim remember last week David Olga we said only dead fish go with the flow
Tarrantino is not a dead fish he's not going at the flow he's making reservoir dogs coming off to 80s and so he says the people making movies at this time didn't think audience cared whether or not the happy endings they gave them made sense or not because to Tarrantino they don't make sense like you had this whole story then you have to you have to do this weird trist it doesn't make any sense just to give it a happy ending so audiences are are happy right now
this is fasting Tarrantino makes the movies he wanted to see even at the time he knew that the mass audiences liked movies that he hated right so he's like listen I hate what the people making movies are doing and he says while I'd like to say those Hollywood professionals were wrong I'm not sure they were how would Tarrantino know that how would they know that you know he's like hey I would love for them to be wrong I'm not sure that they were and think about it he's not sure that they were
but he still goes back he's still he's still he's still fearless in making and approaching the cinema and making the movie that he wants to see right because that video archives remember while this is going on he's working in the video store he's talking to customers viewers of movies and so he says that video archives adult closely with the movie watching public if usually on a one-on-one basis much closer than any Hollywood executives and for the most part they didn't care how unrealistic
or implausible the Jerry rigged climaxes they were spoon fed were they just didn't want the movie to end like a bummer it's very obvious that Tarrantino has a perspective he has a set of ideals he has a way he wants things done in fact I watched this clip of Jamie Foxx being interviewed by Howard Stern he talks about what was like working with Quentin Tarrantino and Jamie Foxx says that on set Tarrantino is a tyrant
and he quote won't let you fuck his film up and so Howard Stern was surprised by that he's like oh you must you know you must not like that and it's all point was like no with him Jamie Foxx is very obvious like Tarrantino knows the stuff he cares deeply he's not going to let this fail
he's going to get the best performance possible out of you and so the follow question was like expecting a negative answer you know oh of course you wouldn't like you would work with Quentin Tarrantino again the expected answer would know of course I use a tyrant you know you would be yelling and screaming and very adam about how things he wanted to be and yet Jamie Foxx said a thousand times a thousand times I would work with Quentin Tarrantino again
and what's incredible is this approach this like dedication to the fact that hey I'm going to make my movies with a fearlessness of the eventual outcome everybody even early in his career okay everybody tries to get him to do things the way that they want him to do things and he just refuses he just says no over and over again no no not doing that early in his career a lot of his movies were financed by the Weinstein company
and Harvey Weinstein walks up to him and they're they are showcasing reservoir dogs is before it's released to on like the like the film festival circuit and what they're noticing is there's a scene in reservoir dogs where they're cutting the guys ear off
and some percentage of the audience is just not reacting well to that they get up and they walk out they're very upset and so you know they're trying to make the point to Tarrantino is like hey if you just remove that scene then you know more people watch the movie
and Tarrantino just said no over and over again it's like nope it's staying in it's my movie that seems important that's exactly the movie is exactly what I wanted to be that is staying in and this is constant no no no and if you're fusing to budge everybody else budgets because it is more important to Quentin than it is to them another example that Tarrantino gives is he has some unusual cast decisions you'll see that over and over again
at the time he cast John Travolta and Pulp Fiction John Travolta was thought of as like a has been right now he winds up his career was revived after Pulp Fiction goes on to a bunch of other movies but before then everybody's like oh it's like that was that guy dancing in the you know in the 1970s he's doing like the baby movies now like no and so they told him he sends this cast list and they're like we like all the names but you have to take Travolta off there
and he's like I'm not taking John Travolta off there and again he just says no no no it goes back to this idea that I'm approaching my cinema with a fearlessness of the eventual outcome and in the case of Pulp Fiction this is fascinating I think you think about movies to me right the filmmakers career is fascinating you could think about each individual movie as like a little miniature business right that's put together for a certain
certain set of time I think there's a lot of similarities between a director and an entrepreneur there's a line from a biography of Robert Friedland which I covered I don't know five years ago he was the guy that was a huge influence on Steve Jobs early in his life but he says promoting a stock or building a business is like making a movie
you've got to have stars prop and a good script and so you can think of every single film that Tarantino or any other film maker for that matter has made as like a miniature business and so look at some of the capital efficiency here Pulp Fiction cost eight million dollars to make it got 213 million just as the box office so all these numbers I went and pulled eight out of the 10 movies so reservoir dogs you know made a little bit of money at box office you know
but it cost very little I think I think it was like 1.2 million and made like 3 million something that and then the only one that kind of flopped or broke even none of his movies lost money but he considers death death proof a flop because I think it just made back what they invested but if you take the top eight out of the 10 movies that Tarantino is made so far they've cost about 400 million dollars to make and they've yielded almost 2 billion at the box office
and that's just a box office you know I just said this week I bought a bunch of them you know $15 a pop on on Apple they're streaming they're still selling but Pulp Fiction 8 million to make 213 million at the box office Jackie Brown 12 million to make 74 million at the box office kill Bill volume 1 30 million to make 180 million at the box office in glorious bastards set that's probably my favorite Tarantino movie 70 million to make 321 million at the box office Django cost 100 million to make
brought in 426 million almost a half a billion dollars at the box office and it goes on and on and on but this idea like these are like miniature businesses right and so everybody's like you can't have John Travolta was you know probably the most important arguably the most important character in that movie maybe Samuel Jackson you know in Pulp Fiction played the bigger bigger role but that 8 million dollars and a yielded 213 million at the box office
the movies been out what for 25 30 years how much money is it made since then okay so there's one more story that I want to tell you that it's about Quentin Tarantino's favorite film critic and I think it ties a lot of the ideas that it took away from studying Tarantino one is that if you love your work that will increase your enjoyment of your life number two is the importance of knowing more about your industry than anyone else number three is that passion and enthusiasm is infectious
you are I've never seen you know these are movies that came out 50 years ago in some cases I've never seen them and you're just reading about Tarantino's interpretation of them and love of them makes you love them or love his enthusiasm for them
and then for the importance of building this historical database that you can then use and that can influence and benefit your work many many years into the future we have no ideas we're about to see here there's going to be examples of books you read hopefully podcast you listen to like this one
where you're going to hear something and you're going to use that 10 15 20 years into the future and so he starts out comparing and contrasting the way that Kevin Thomas approaches his work is the direct opposite of how most people approach theirs in the same industry
most critics writing for newspapers and magazines set themselves up as superior to the films that they were paid to review which I could ever understand because judging from their writing this was clearly not the case they look down on films they gave pleasure
and on filmmakers who had an understanding of the audience that they did not as a kid who loved movies and paid to see pretty much everything I just thought they were snide assholes today as a much older and wiser man I realize the extent of how unhappy they must have been they wrote with the demeanor of somebody who hates their life and hates their job Kevin Thomas reviewed movies for the Los Angeles Times the LA Times was the morning newspaper that most agents and studio executives read
so it's influential not only to a young grand turntino but also people working in the industry you know a decade before maybe a decade maybe half a decade before a year later at the Torrance Public Library I looked up one of his reviews okay if you find yourself at a public library looking for a review of a movie that came out 20 years earlier
that is a sign that you are obsessed that is a sign that you have maneuvered yourself into the exact industry you should be working in and so he talks about the fact that Kevin loved he was very passionate again passionate and do hisheve is infectious
that Kevin loved the movie for the review of these reading Quentin re Quentin goes to watch it he says after 20 minutes I walked out on this one too but I never begrudged Kevin Thomas his enthusiasm did I waste money yeah but I'm not going to pretend I even gave a shit about that
I liked Kevin Thomas so much I was glad that he at least had a good time think about the contrast where he started this where he's like you know I'm reading these critics for newspapers oh and then you realize oh they they hate their lives I hate their jobs and then he's reading Kevin Thomas Kevin's like hyped up about this movie Quentin who loves movies goes to see he's like I like this movie but I'm still happy because at least Kevin loved it
passion and enthusiasm is infectious and so what's never stated but it's also implied if you read this story is like oh Kevin was just like Quentin in the sense that he maneuvered himself into a job he loved which then increases your enjoyment of overall your life right then he goes into the this importance of having this historical database in your head because you never know when you're going to use these ideas
and so here's an example of that one review Kevin Thomas wrote in 1980 that I read when I was 18 years old was to have a significant impact on my film 17 years later so it was a review this is going to so he's 18 he's going to use this 17 years later right it was a review for a JAWS rip off called alligator in his review of this giant alligator movie okay which Kevin called well made and lots of fun
Kevin focused on two lead performances one of those lead performances was this was a young Robert Forster remember Quentin is 18 years old when he's reading this review about this performance of this actor named Robert Forster 15 years later when I was writing my adaptation to what would turn into the movie Jackie Brown I had to consider who was going to play the likable lead male character
Bale Bond'sman Max Cherry there was something about Forster an alligator that really stuck with me I watched the movie again and I felt that the character from alligator could be Max Cherry just 15 years earlier so I started writing the script as if he was would I have done that without Kevin Thomas's highlighting Forster so positively in his review
no in the end who have made Kevin Thomas so unique in the world of the 70s and 80s film criticism he seemed like one of the only few practitioners who truly enjoyed their job and consequently their life I loved reading him growing up and practically considered him a friend in 1994 I won an award for pulp fiction from the Los Angeles film critics association when I stepped up to the podium and looked out before the audience of LA critics my first remarks to the room were G
thanks now I finally know what Kevin Thomas looks like and that is where I leave it for the full story highly recommend reading the book if you buy the book using the link that's in the show notes in your podcast player are available founders podcast calm you'll be supporting the podcast at the same time that is 344 books down 1000 ago and I'll talk to you
in soon spending two weeks studying Tarantino has got me completely fired up I don't know if I'm done making podcasts on them I might make the next episode might be on them again I have a lot of material that I still want to talk about but the main thing I want to talk about you real quick and I can keep this real short is I can't get over the fact that you know how Tarantino had this
historical database in his head of the movie industry like the tire history of the movie industry it was in his head it's something that he could call on and that he not only could call on but he called on multiple times and he would use in his work later on I really believe that sage which is the new feature founders notes is that for you but for the entire history of
entrepreneurship for the entire entrepreneurship industry it's kind of blowing my mind how you know because I told you since 2018 I've been fit I did what Tarantino did I didn't even know that he did this until I read this book but just like he was cataloging and making index cards and all the things of all the movies that he had been watching since since he was a kid since 2018 all the books for every single book that I've read for this podcast I've
been adding in all my highlights all my notes into this database called read wise into this app called read wise which allows me to search it to review it go there's a bunch of different ways you can like you can search by book you can search by highlight feed you can search by keyword and so for the last six months I think you already know this but for the last six months I partner with them I was
like hey I was getting a bunch of messages over the years of people saying hey I want access to all your notes and highlights and so I partnered with the team of read wise to build founders notes calm founders notes calm is where you sign up to get this if you haven't done so already and you could see exactly what I see you see every single note every single highlight you can search through
everything that I have that that all all the notes and highlights that I have it's a giant searchable database about like the collected knowledge of history and newspapers that I gathered over the since 2018 so six years whatever that's been then I started adding other features like putting in every single transcript into founders notes for every single
episode and you can search every single word of ever other other on the podcast and then I had this idea for a feature to build an AI assistant on top of that and so in addition to you being able to read all my notes and so I have no highlights searching everything reading all the transcripts you can do that sage can do this for you and it's insane because you know I have fear you've heard me speak on other
podcasts you hear me speak publicly you know I don't know what people are going to ask me in advance and I'll just use that historical databases in my mind to answer just take me to a question and run it through everything I've learned from studying this podcast building this podcast and then answer the question except sage does this is a perfect memory so what sage is I was I was calling this you know this feature
couldn't figure out what to name it I was going to call founders chat GPT or founder GPT I was going to call founders chat and I was like what this not really what it what it is and so somebody that was actually in the private beta so sage is available to every single person that has access to founders notes
if you already have it you can use this immediately if you haven't signed up you should sign up like exactly I mean I don't know how you're going to listen to the podcast you just listen to and not realize how valuable it is to have this historical database in your head and sage allows you to have this on
demand anytime you want and so somebody that was in the private beta was testing sage is a bunch of people that existing subscribers of founders notes they were testing it and he sent me an email I was like listen what you just founders chat all these other names that you have AI assistant all of this is not actually it's not a good description of what you've built and he's like why don't you call it sage and then he sent me the definition and when I think of sage I think of
Charlie Munger and this is exactly what Charlie had in his mind and so the sage has two main definitions it's a profoundly wise person this refers to someone with a deep understanding of life accumulated knowledge and sound judgment that is every single person that you and I have ever studied on the podcast except sage allows you to do this with across hundreds of these kind of people they're often looked to for guidance and advice that's exactly why I'm reading these books it's exactly
what I'm making the podcast right and then it says sage is wise is earning discerning or prudent to subscribe someone who shows good judgment and makes well considered decisions and so what sage does right when you ask sage a question and I'll leave a list of the questions a bunch of people have been sending me questions that
they've asked that they've gotten great responses from about the questions I haven't I work like how do I find new customers questions distribution marketing all kinds of different things that you have to make decisions you have to make in your career and so what I'm eventually going to do is first of all sage right now it's available founders notes.com go to founders notes.com and get it now eventually I already realized this is like I called the one of the founders that
read wise this week I was like sage needs to be its own app we've got to figure out a way let's start building it immediately this one feature will be it'll always be available in notes right but I want this for myself I wanted on my phone as an app as a stand alone feature and so what sage does it automatically you ask it a question right it automatically searches every single highlight for every single
book that ever refer to a crack as every single note for every single book that ever refer for the podcast it searches every single transcript for every single episode of this podcast to give you the best answer possible which means sage searches every word I've ever uttered on the podcast to help answer your question every week I'm adding more notes more highlights more transcripts I have so much more data I'm putting into this with the
goals over time just like Tarantino took decades right to get to this historical databases in this head Charlie Munger took decades to do that Kobe Bryant took decades to do it Napoleon Sam Zell all these people I mentioned in the podcast sage will out every single person that uses it to have that exact same except for all of history's greatest entrepreneurs all the ones that have studied on the podcast so far and all the ones that I will ever study on the
podcast over time I really do believe that everything all the features of building and founders notes sage being a huge part of that is over time like my goals I want this ever increasing giant valuable curriculum and tool that you can use your entire career with the goal of condensing and clarifying the collective knowledge of history's greatest founders if you have access to this information on demand it will make your
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