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FAREWELL

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FAREWELL, a Growth Equation podcast, is about performance, giving you the proven, evidence-based habits and strategies that, if practiced consistently, will help you do and feel good, cultivate a healthy mind and body, and perform your best on the things you care about most. There will be two episodes per week: one longer episode featuring either an interview between host Clay Skipper and athletes, coaches, psychologists, and authors, among others, or a roundtable between Clay, Brad Stulberg, and Steve Magness, where the three discuss and share insights on news and topics related to performance, health, and wellness; and one shorter episode, called “The Coach Up,” which is basically a 1-on-1 coaching session, explaining, in 10-15 minutes, a performance-related tool or idea and how to apply it to your own life.

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Episodes

024 - The Coach Up: Make Friends with Your Fatigue

Knowing how to be tired is a skill. If you don't know how to work with fatigue, you won't be able to push yourself when things get hard. On the other hand, if you only know how to push and can't understand your body's warning signals when it's overdoing it, you might find yourself injured or burnt out. On this episode of The Coach Up, Steve Magness explains how to better walk that tightrope by getting to know—and making friends with—your fatigue. If you are enjoying FAREWELL, the best way you ca...

Mar 25, 202413 min

023 — When Does Exercise Become Unhealthy? (And Other Voicemails)

We’ve got voicemail(s)! On the last roundtable, we opened up our phone lines a you all answered the call with some great questions. So today’s episode is dedicated to answering three of the issues raised: how to know when a relationship to exercise becomes unhealthy; (2) the psychological downsides to gamifying your movement practice, and how to know when to use intrinsic vs extrinsic motivation; (3) how to think about exercising and fitness as you age. Enjoy—and thanks for the great questions.&...

Mar 21, 202438 min

022 - The Coach Up: Instead of Toxic Positivity, Try Tragic Optimism

The world can be pretty wonderful. It can also be pretty terrible. So we need a mindset that works for both of these circumstances. Unfortunately, these days, we often live on the extremes. On the one end of the spectrum, there's toxic positivity, which means remaining upbeat in the face of something that's really difficult, or hard, or sad, and needs to be experienced and processed as such. On the other , there's straight up hopelessness or nihilism, a sense that everything is so bad, we m...

Mar 18, 202410 min

021 - Are Our Cravings and Comforts Holding Us Back? (with Michael Easter)

In his books The Comfort Crisis and Scarcity Brain , Michael Easter explores two of the major complications of living in our modern world. The world is rife with comfort and convenience, which is great some of the time, but not all of the time since we need to discomfort to grow and become resilient. The world is also abundant, but humans have evolved to have a scarcity mindset, meaning that no matter how much we have, we're wired to crave more. This means we often struggle to do the necessary h...

Mar 14, 202449 min

020 - The Coach Up: 6 Tips for Building (& Breaking) Habits

In his book Atomic Habits, James Clear makes the point that it's your habits, multiplied over time, that create the person you become. That's because habits compound. The difference between the person who reads 20 minutes a day and the person who doesn't may not seem that big on a day-to-day basis. But over the course of a year, the person with the reading habit will likely have read 30 to 40 more books than the person without that habit. So building the habits that are going to get us closer to...

Mar 11, 202410 min

019 - VO2 Max and Other Things You Don't Need To Know

Health and fitness is in a weird place these days. On one hand, there’s a lack of foundational health literacy in society (as evidenced by a recent Exercise I.Q. Quiz in The New York Times that left us with more answers than questions: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/02/27/well/move/fitness-workout.html). On the other hand, we’re overloaded with fancy-sounding jargon that can leave even high-level exercise enthusiasts feeling like they need to do and learn more. Today, Steve, Brad, and ...

Mar 07, 202438 min

018 - The Coach Up: (How to) Fly Into the Danger Zone

"You need to feel like a pot of water on the stove that's just about to start boiling over," says Molly Seidel, in describing what it feels like to run the marathon pace that won her the bronze at the last Olympics. "You just hold it there, right on that line." This is as draining mentally as it is physically, she says. In fact, Seidel says so much of what holds athletes back is their brain telling them to pull back because their going into the danger zone. The antidote? Learning how to be with ...

Mar 04, 20249 min

017 - Rethinking Toughness with Ironman World Champion Chelsea Sodaro

In October 2022, many people witnessed triathlete Chelsea Sodaro, in her first time running the race, become the first American woman to win the Ironman World Championship in Kona. What they didn't see was that, in the months leading up to the race, she was learning how to balance motherhood and training, and struggling with intense OCD and anxiety. Today's episode is about that: the things we don't see. Because, in the world of performance, a lot of the focus goes to success and achievement—and...

Feb 29, 20241 hr 1 min

016 - The Coach Up: Getting Started When You Don't Want to Get Started

"You probably grew up with motivation being super important: 'Think positive. Get hyped. Find inspiration. Ride your bliss,'" says Brad Stulberg, on this week's Coach Up. "And that's great—except for the 98 percent of days where you're not super hyped and motivated." On those days, when you need a little extra oomph, you might want to use a psychological tool known as behavioral activation, which Brad details on today's episode. Plus: how to know when you have the type of fatigue that ...

Feb 26, 20249 min

015 - How to Be Productive in a World of Infinite Noise

Do you ever feel like you've got too much to do and not enough time to do it? Welcome to one of the enduring sensations of existing and working in a very noisy world . (We feel it, too.) On today's roundtable, Brad, Steve, and Clay discuss how we got here, why the sense of task overwhelm is a particularly modern affliction, and the strategies they use to deal with it, like prioritizing, doing good enough work, and understanding what's truly urgent (versus what just seems urgent). If you are enjo...

Feb 22, 202431 min

014 - The Coach Up: Why Bad Days Matter More Than Good Days

"The sky's the limit." "Shoot for the stars." When it comes to success, we often think in terms of being our absolute best. On today's episode of The Coach Up, Brad Stulberg explains why, if you want to get better, you should focus on your bad and average days—not the good or great ones. Listen and subscribe to FAREWELL now! iTunes and Apple Podcasts Spotify Android Stitcher Got a question, feedback, or ideas for the show? Email [email protected] or leave a voicemail at ( 646) 893-9503 &nb...

Feb 19, 20249 min

013 - Knowing How to "Winter" Is a Year Round Skill (with Katherine May)

Let’s be honest: Winter ain't always fun! It’s cold, dark, icy, and often sticks around far longer than we want it to. Even if you’ve moved somewhere warm as a way to permanently escape the frosty months, well, there are winters there, too; times when you or someone you love gets sick, you go through a break-up, or you lose a job. “Everybody winters at one time or another,” writes Katherine May, in her book Wintering : The Power of Rest and Retreat in Difficult Times . May says that instead of “...

Feb 15, 202449 min

012 - The Coach Up: A Magness Masterclass on Feedback

Growth comes from facing weaknesses, and we learn about those weaknesses from getting feedback. But feedback has a way of raising our defenses. Which means helping others grow by giving feedback—or growing ourselves, by taking feedback—is fraught with challenges. Luckily, Steve Magness's countless years as both an athlete and a coach have earned him some insights into the practice of delivering (and receiving) criticism. On this episode of The Coach Up, he gives you a primer: how to give it, wha...

Feb 12, 202412 min

011 - Is Our Happiness Obsession Making Us... Unhappy?

We've always been a country obsessed with happiness. It was, quite literally, built into the promise of America (right there with life and liberty). But maybe you've noticed: the market for happiness content is absolutely booming, which suggests that there's a rather large market of un happy people out there. It's almost as if our obsession with happiness is inversely correlated to our actual happiness. Why might that be? Steve, Brad, and Clay discuss, unpacking different ideas of happiness...

Feb 08, 202435 min

010 - The Coach Up: We're Talking About Practice(s)!

When it comes to thinking about how to design your days, weeks, and months, to get done everything you want to get done, we often think in terms of goals and routines. In the long-term, goals give you a North Star to aim towards; in the shorter term, routines help you knock out the tasks you need to do on a daily basis. Sometimes that works great. But sometimes it doesn't. We can feel too loosely connected to a goal that's far away—or too rigidly attached to a routine that, when it gets disrupte...

Feb 05, 20249 min

009 - Mental & Physical Skills of the World's Best Athlete (with Damian Warner)

Over the course of two days, Olympic decathletes participate in ten different track and field events, ranging from pole vault and shot put to long jump and a 1500-meter run. It’s a grueling competition that requires speed, strength, explosiveness and technical ability, which is why, in addition to receiving a gold medal, the winner is also crowned the “best athlete in the world.” Right now, that title belongs to Canada’s Damian Warner, who took home the gold in Tokyo in 2021. On today’s episode,...

Feb 01, 202456 min

008 - The Coach Up: This Concept Will Change How You Think About Motivation

Have you ever noticed that your behavior is sometimes misaligned with your goals? You go to school to learn, or take a job to do meaningful work, or join Instagram to keep up with friends. But instead you end up chasing GPA, money, and followers. It's an increasingly prevalent complication in a society obsessed with metrics, where everything is gamified and measured. On today's episode of The Coach Up, Michael Easter, whose books The Comfort Crisis and Scarcity Brain assess the problems of our m...

Jan 29, 20248 min

007 - Be Yourself and Go All the Way

What type of leadership builds a culture of winning and excellence? Is an approach that prioritizes joy, care, and love, more effective than one that's more demanding or authoritarian? Using examples from contemporary sports, and in the wake of the departure of three of the most storied football coaches of all-time—Nick Saban, Bill Belichick, and Pete Caroll—each of whom fostered a unique type of culture, Steve, Brad, and Clay discuss the merits of various coaching styles. You'll learn the impor...

Jan 25, 202444 min

006 - The Coach Up: 5 Lessons on Focus, Leadership, and Greatness (with NFL coach Andy Reid)

A special edition of The Coach Up! In the wake of the Kansas City Chiefs' playoff victory over the Buffalo Bills, Clay revisits a 2020 conversation he had with the Chiefs' head coach, Andy Reid. Coach Reid breaks down what makes Chiefs' quarterback Patrick Mahomes great, and gives an insight into the coaching philosophy that has made him one of the best coaches of all-time. Don't miss these lessons on leadership, focus, and greatness from a future Hall of Famer. Listen and subscribe to FAREWELL ...

Jan 22, 20249 min

005 - How the Cult of Wellness is Failing Us (with Kate Bowler)

What if I told you our country's approach to wellness was heavily influenced by the history of American religion? Kate Bowler, a professor of religious history at Duke, traces the self-betterment movement back to America's "prosperity gospel," which promised that true believers of God would be rewarded with health, wealth, and happiness. Replace "God" with diet, workouts, supplements, self-help books, and time management systems and you've pretty much described today's billion-dollar health and ...

Jan 18, 202457 min

004 - The Coach Up: Why You Should Stop Your Workout (Just) Short

Throughout his many years of coaching, Steve Magness has put together a unique set of tools for training mental toughness. In this week's Coach Up, he walks you through a clever way to approach the end of your workouts that will help widen your tolerance for uncomfortable feelings. Think of it as exposure therapy for discomfort, making it easier for you to approach difficulty in your everyday life. Listen and subscribe to FAREWELL now! iTunes and Apple Podcasts Spotify Android Stitcher Got a que...

Jan 15, 20249 min

003 - Fantasy Draft: Our 12 Favorite Movies & Shows About Performance

We are living in an entertainment boom, which is both a blessing and a curse: there's more great content than ever before, but you have to sort through a lot of noise to find it. In an effort to help you comb through it all, Brad, Steve, and Clay do a good old fashioned fantasy draft in order to select the best movies, shows, and documentaries about performance, craft, and mastery. What does "best" mean? Well, as you'll see, that was up for some debate... Let us know who you think picked the bes...

Jan 11, 202447 min

002 - The Coach Up: How to Set Better Goals

For the first episode of The Coach Up, we've got three different experts—Brad, Steve, and Katy Milkman, a behavioral scientist at Wharton—offering three different perspectives on how to think through goal-setting in the new year. You'll learn the difference between an open goal and a specific goal, when to pick a small goal versus when to pick a big goal, why something called "the what the hell effect" can derail your goals, and the subtle but powerful mindset shift that will help you stay on tr...

Jan 08, 202420 min

001 - Inside the (Joyful) Mind of Elite Ultrarunner Courtney Dauwalter

Last summer, ultrarunner Courtney Dauwalter did something that had never been done before. She ran three of the sport's most iconic 100-mile races... within 10 weeks of each other... and won all three. (She also set the women's course record on two of them.) It was an incredible achievement, even for someone who has long established herself as one of the greatest ultraunners of all-time. How does she do what she does? Through a rare mixture of joy, curiosity, and intensity that will change how y...

Jan 04, 20241 hr 2 min

Welcome to FAREWELL, Premiering January 4th (Trailer)

On January 4th, we are relaunching The Growth Equation Podcast as FAREWELL. Hosted by Clay Skipper, it's a show about performance, delivering you the insights, habits, and practices that, if done consistently, will help you perform your best on the things you care about most (and help you, more generally, fare well). You'll hear from Growth Equation founders and performance experts Brad Stulberg and Steve Magness, but also a long list of others who study or practice performance at the highest le...

Jan 02, 20244 min

203 - Is Motivational Speaking a Scam?

Steve, Brad, and Clay react to a recent story in the The New Yorker about the motivational speaker economy (https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/12/11/jesse-itzlers-secrets-of-success), why mastery involves more than motivation, and the difference between performance and endurance. Plus: the guys debate whether or not they could win a 100-mile race against LeBron James. The Growth Equation Podcast is rebranding to “Farewell” in the new year, so be sure to subscribe now! You can find this epis...

Dec 27, 202348 min

202 - End of Year Roundtable: Habits We Started, Goals We Have, Trends We're Buying/Selling

Clay, Brad, and Steve round out the year by answering four questions: What's a habit you started (or stopped) in 2023? What's a physical goal you have for 2024? What's an idea, book, or theme that you're carrying into 2024? What wellness fads are you buying/selling? The Growth Equation Podcast is rebranding to “Farewell” podcast in the new year, so be sure to subscribe now! Got a question for the podcast? Leave us a voice memo at 6468935903 You can find this episode on: iTunes and Apple Podcasts...

Dec 20, 202353 min

201 - This Book Changed How We Think About Performance and Anxiety

A deep dive on Mark Epstein’s book “Going to Pieces without Falling Apart:" Brad and Clay unpack the key insights and takeaways that will help get you out of your head, into flow, and more at ease in the world. Got a question for the podcast? Leave us a voice memo at 6468935903 You can find this episode on: iTunes and Apple Podcasts Spotify Android Stitcher Get Master of Change , Do Hard Things , and  The Practice of Groundedness  on audible (Or in hard copy: Master of Change here...

Dec 13, 202350 min

200 - Strategies to Maximize Your End-of-Year Health

Clay and Steve discuss how to approach health and exercise during the holidays and into the new year, whether you want to stick to an existing plan or start a new one.  Got a question for the podcast? Leave us a voice memo at 6468935903 You can find this episode on: iTunes and Apple Podcasts Spotify Android Stitcher Get Master of Change , Do Hard Things , and  The Practice of Groundedness  on audible (Or in hard copy: Master of Change here Hard Things  here  and Gro...

Dec 06, 202335 min

199 - The Arrival Fallacy: Why Chasing (and Achieving) Success Doesn't Always Lead to Happiness

Have you ever wanted something badly, finally achieved it, and then found it didn't quite live up to the hype? Brad, Steve, and Clay discuss why this happens—and how you can protect against it. Got a question for the podcast? Leave us a voice memo at 6468935903 You can find this episode on: iTunes and Apple Podcasts Spotify Android Stitcher Get Master of Change , Do Hard Things , and  The Practice of Groundedness  on audible (Or in hard copy: Master of Change here Hard Things&nbsp...

Nov 29, 20231 hr 12 min