How Much Work Will Isiah Pacheco Receive? | Week 13 Fantasy Football Running Back Rankings and Tiers: Studs, Sleepers, and Must-Starts (Ep. 1466) - podcast episode cover

How Much Work Will Isiah Pacheco Receive? | Week 13 Fantasy Football Running Back Rankings and Tiers: Studs, Sleepers, and Must-Starts (Ep. 1466)

Nov 27, 202435 minEp. 1466
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Chris Welsh, Pat Fitzmaurice and guest Scott Pianowski (@scott_pianowski) are here breaking down the Week 13 fantasy football running back rankings and tiers. Catch up on the latest injury dominoes and advice on whether you can trust Jeremy McNichols, Gus Edwards or Kareem Hunt. 

Which players will win your matchup, and who are the landmines? Don't miss our deep dive into this week's rankings, must-start options and value plays to dominate your fantasy matchup! 

Timestamps (may be off due to ads):

Introduction - 0:00:00
Rankings Contest Shoutouts - 0:00:24
Josh Allen Bills Helmet Giveaway - 0:04:14
RB1 Rankings - 0:05:22
Christian McCaffrey - 0:05:58
Breece Hall - 0:09:15
RB2 Rankings - 0:13:32
Bucky Irving - 0:13:54
Tyron Tracy - 0:17:57
DraftKings Sportsbook - 0:21:20
RB3 Rankings - 0:23:00
Kareem Hunt vs. Isiah Pacheco - 0:23:19
Jeremy McNichols - 0:27:17
Gus Edwards - 0:30:20
Outro - 0:33:07

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Speaker 1

Hello, friends, and welcome into Fantasy pros. This is the Fantasy Football Podcast and it is Week thirteen ranks. We've got running backs, that's right. We are toting the rock here with Pat fitz Morris and Scott Pianowski, my two buddies, as we are going to get into a very critical week thirteen, and it just so happens that mister Scott Pianowski is going to get a little love rank here.

As we always do on these shows, we like to shout out everybody in the ranks contest, usually Wednesday mornings, late Tuesday. We've got the weekly into every rank contest. So Week thirteen twelve eleven DA DA This past week, Montra Damis from Beast Dome, What a Name, What an ultimate Name? Came in at number one in the week twelve accuracy ranks, Anderson Pickered from Primetime Sports Talk at number two, and Adam Dove from the Fantasy Couriers number three.

Those are your top three most accurate Week twelve rankers. But inside the top twenty five it is him, Scott Pianowski. We've I think we have all now officially on this show, been inside the top twenty five of this contest from Mick to me to Pat Scott, we are all top twenty five. Scott, congratulations, that's a pretty good finish out.

Speaker 2

On week twelve. Thank you. Yeah. With the college basketball season kicking in, you know, I'm focused on being in the top twenty five. You're sick of being one of the also receiving votes teams. So yeah, happy, Happy to get my name on the board and edge out you find folks. But it's three thirteen, man, everybody's in play. We're jostling for fantasy positions. So there's no better time to maybe improve on that standing than right now.

Speaker 1

It is serious crunch time. And Pat also, by the way, I was in like the thirties, not to not acknowledge that, and anything inside the top fifty I think is really good. Pat has been rocking all year. Pat, are you ready for Week thirteen? You know, it's been this weird space where I've been telling everybody it's like in regular fantasy leagues.

You know, it's this week and next week. So it is absolutely critic got people in my DMS, A couple athletes that are in there doing like I have to win this week, da da da, you know, helping out but then you also have like the ffpcs of the world that are moving off to the playoffs. So it's like Week thirteen hits and just go time, crunch time happens. We've even got a little bit of a waiver wire conversation of a player that he might be in the

ranks this week. But are you prepared for this week thirteen, mister Pat Fitzmorris.

Speaker 3

I am prepared, welshin. It is a big week. It seems like for whatever reason, like more than it seems like half of my redraft teams are like seven and five, and I'm like, that's not a humble brag, but like that's sitting in fifth or sixth in every league, where okay, looking pretty good for playoff position, but got to get at least one more win in these last couple of weeks. So it would be nice to get the wins in week thirteen not have to sweat it out in week fourteen. We'll see.

Speaker 2

Does that means, Pat, that you are the Denver Broncos. You're seven and five, You're you know, you're ahead of schedule, you're having a nice season, but you get to finish the job. And I don't know about you guys.

Speaker 4

Pat.

Speaker 2

I don't know about you, Chris, but I get text messages this time of the year from people I don't hear from all season, because all of a sudden, the stakes are higher and people start second guests in themselves, or they just want the reassurance of somebody to agree with them, or whatever it is. So it's always a nice check in. You know, people text me like, oh, they'reishing me a happy Thanksgiving, or you know, they're wishing

me a happy Holidays, whatever it is. No, no, no, they're starting to fill the pinch.

Speaker 1

At week thirteen, everybody, I know all the texts. I'm waiting for all of these happy things. Given what are we having for mac? Are we doing the White Russians? It's like, no, what do you think about Jeremy McNichols. And I'm like, all right, that's what we're gonna do.

Speaker 3

The college friend you haven't heard from from three years ago, it's like, oh, he's checking in. No tour Stafford this week. I got to win this game.

Speaker 2

You know. Mickey Mantle used to tell a joke about when he would go to be judged after he died, and they say, you know, sorry, Mick, we can't let you in. You just didn't live the life on earth that we wanted you to. But oh, we have like seven baseballs, could you sign them for us? And my version of that has always been like a sorry p and now you know you did a couple of things we didn't. But before you go, I need two receivers in flex.

Speaker 1

That sounds just about right, and it'll only get worse next week because yeah, Week fourteen we got Buys and Derek Henry and it's going to be gross, but we'll tackle that when we get there. We are going to get into these running back ranks. We've got thirty six of them. We're going to give you where you can find them. Of course on Fantasy Pros, we're going to give you that top thirty six, talk about some of

the biggest questions, all of that under the sun. But first I want to make sure to give away something. We are thankful to all of our wonderful listeners, and we are giving you a chance to win a signed Josh Allen Bill's autograph helmet, free courtesy of our friends at Pristineauction dot com. All you've got to do is

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thirty seven. All right, let's get into this, gentleman. If you guys are ready going to the RB Big Board, We're gonna start this week with Saquon Barkley, coming off of a three hundred total yard performance, is going up against the Baltimore Ravens. What a matchup to by the way of Barkley versus Henry you know, the two the really like league winning type of guys, you could have gotten the second round Saquan is number one, Joe Mixon at two going up against the Jags, Jamiir Gibbs, b

Jon Robinson, Alvin Kamara. That is your top five, not Derreck Henry yet We've got Devon a Chan, Christian McCaffrey, Dereck Henry, Kyron Williams, breeshallt, Josh Jacobs, and Chase Brown. Those are your core running backs in the top twelve questions, not really too many of them. I am curious is there any hesitation pat with I say this lightly in

just maybe throwing this out at people. You're not gonna not start Christian mcaff or anything like that, but the offense was putrid and they've got a really big weather game, So maybe, if anything, just some thoughts because we're not doing anything outside of Christian McCaffrey, but it should be gross at least. It looks like a big old snowball type of game. Could keep the ball on the ground, but they could not move the ball with Brandon Allen.

Probably need to get Jordan Mason more involved, and that might also take him out of the passing game. Just any general thoughts on McCaffrey this week, because this is the lowest he's been active and ranked in I don't even know how long at seven.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I'm inclined to sometimes even favor the running backs a little in a snow game, although with McCaffrey a different type of running back who derives a lot of his value from catching passes, and this offense just didn't look good in Green Bay a week ago. So yeah, I mean like you're gonna are Christian McCaffrey no matter what, but he is no longer a slam dunk top five running back with this offense sort of broken right now.

And I don't know if we're going to see Purdy come back, And we'll have to keep abreast of these weather reports because it sounds like it's going to get pretty gnarly in Buffalo that evening.

Speaker 1

Yeah, those are Where do you have him ranks?

Speaker 3

By the way, McCaffrey, I think i'm one above consensus at RB six as I'm now.

Speaker 1

Okay, same thing, Scott. Is there any I don't know, reservation hesitation, Like you would be sick to your stomach if you were putting you know, literally any other running back in over a Christian McCaffrey. So that's not really a question. It's just these weird weather games, you just really don't know what you're going to get out of it. And their offense they just don't move the ball right now, So general thoughts and rank.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I think the snow game we saw last week, the glorious Cleveland Pittsburgh game, it just reminded us that snow doesn't necessarily kill offense. I realized that wasn't attract meet by any means, but plenty of guys got home in that game. The worries I have with McCaffrey are more tied to Trent Williams. Is he healthy? Is he going to play? Are we going to see? I think party will play? How healthy is he? This offense has not been anywhere close to the Niners' offense we expected.

I don't think they're going to make the playoffs. It's one of those things where you the whole it's like a monster movie or a horror movie where you're just petrified that the chainsaw killer is in the closet. Maybe the chainsaw killer is not in the closet, or maybe this's just that you know, Kyle Shinahan doesn't have the chainsaw. So I unfortunately, there's no satisfying advice for McCaffrey or trade deadline's probably coming on. You can't bench him. He's

still a top ten back for me. I think I have him a couple of slots lower than Pat does. But the buoyancy of this offense isn't here right now. This is not the Niners offense we signed up for, and so McCaffrey is a lower end are we one at this point? You would take he's missed his projection all three weeks, right He hasn't been a top ten running back in any week he's fallen short of projection. He just looks like another good player right now, but

not the dynamic Christian McCaffrey we're used to. And just another case of if you were injury optimistic, Christian mcaffrey's going to save my season after missing you know, almost three minds, something that hasn't played out at all. And this is just a case of a reminder that you have to be realistic about these guys you wait for because they don't always step back into their normal functionality and you hit the high end of the range right away.

That's just very rare for anybody in the National Football League.

Speaker 1

One other that I want to talk about is RB ten in this is Breece Hall, and the reason behind it is we got to report today as we're recording this that Breece Hall did not practice, and Ulbrich says that he is still hopeful that Hall is going to be able to play this Sunday because apparently he tweaked his knee in the indie game. So you know, Scott will start with you. The cautiousness of that is probably going to adjust his rank if he does play. Knowing this, now,

are you going to lower him? And if he doesn't play, where do you think Braylen Allen is going to slot?

Speaker 2

Probably in the thirties for Allen, although I always defer to pat on any Wisconsin running back other than maybe James White. You played for my Patriots for a while. But I'm just encouraged to hear the Jets practice because every time I watched him play offense, I wonder if they just met before the game. Five minutes they found eleven guys that Aaron Rodgers apparently likes. Ten guys. Whatever, man, I'm so ready to unsubscribe from Aaron Rodgers. I don't

know what button you have to click. I don't know what phone number you have to call, how long you have to be on hold, But just get Aaron Rodgers out of my life. But you know, look, Hall is somebody I'm going to play. I know Seattle defense has played a lot better of late. I think Seattle will win this game. But HAL'SO three down back Alan after having somewhat of a sprinkling role he almost had for a second, some standalone value that's kind of been out

the window. I can only play Allen if Hall is scratched. But the Jets might be the most disappointing team in the NFL, and Hall of somebody you can play. It's man, I really don't want to play Garrett Wilson anymore. DeVante Adams, I don't want to play Rogers has been off my list for a while. It's just amazing. This offense is basically, yeah, you can play the starting running back and that's you know, I guess you have to play Garrett Wilson, who's a

great player in a bad situation. He's basically going to have the Terry McLaurin career. I guess though mclaurin's finally paying it off this year. But you know what, the wait until season five or season six for Garrett Wilson. But you have to play Hall. But the Jets are going to score what thirteen points seventeen points? You just hope that there's a touchdown or two that maybe Hall gets in on that.

Speaker 1

Yeah, Pat, I mean, I know we have to play I mean we're saying we have to play Hall, But like, do we if he is banged up and tweaked here and they hope he's going to play? To me, that speaks like, oh, maybe the workload comes down a little bit. So the same question, knowing what we know now, and he plays, where will you rank Hall? If Hall is inactive? Where does Braylen Allen fall for you?

Speaker 3

Initially had Hall RB eleven, I've dropped him to RB thirteen. I might drop him a little further. And if Hall were out entirely, I'd probably have Allan somewhere in running back two range maybe like nineteen ish or so. Alan just he got off to that great start where he looked fabulous and was just running people over and look like faster than he had ever looked in Madison when he played for the Badgers, But lately he hasn't been

as good. I think over the last month and a half he's averaging I don't even know if he's even averaging yards per carry, But of course with him, it's all been small sample sizes, so really hard to tell. But he certainly would become playable if Breesehall were scratched, if it.

Speaker 1

Was just Allen and Breese were out. Who would you rather, Brayln Allen versus the Seahawks or Rico Dowdell versus the Giants?

Speaker 3

Ooh, that's a good one.

Speaker 1

It's on the spot.

Speaker 3

Probably yeah, probably probably Rico, And I've got Rico, so I guess I would have Allan more like in the mid twenties, because I think I've got Rico at like twenty three or twenty four.

Speaker 1

Might Lean Allen scott any take on that.

Speaker 2

A slight preference to Rico because Cooper Rush has been good enough that the offense has taken off the restricted list, and is it nice when quarterbacks do that? Right? Bryce Young has taken the Panthers offense off the restricted list. Cooper Rush has taken the Cowboys offense off the restricted list. Not that I'm thrilled to play Rico dowdelld but I think he's a pretty solid running back too.

Speaker 3

Yeah, plus Welsh. We don't know, Like I mean, if Breesehall were to be scratched, possible that Isaiah Davis gets some the work for the Jets, Like, we don't know that that would be like in eighty percent ninety percent share for brayln Allen. Automatically, if Haull were.

Speaker 1

On just one of those things, if he's floating out there, it would benefit everybody to pick him up.

Speaker 2

There's there's quite a few.

Speaker 1

It's actually ironic. In week thirteen we've had a couple really slow waiver weeks, and week thirteen we have in theory three backs that could be taking over a role from a guy that's out, which is you know, I don't know. It speaks to the zero running back crew or the people that save their fab they're going to be in a good spot. Let's go to running back twos here and let's kick over to number thirteen on

the big board. Jonathan Taylor up against New England. He comes in at thirteen, followed by Ken Walker, James Cook, Bucky Irving at sixteen, Aaron Jones, Chuba Hubbard, David Montgomery, James Connor. That rounds out your top twenty, Tony Pollard, Tyrone, Tracy aforementioned, Rico Daddle, and Ramandre Stevenson at twenty four. Pat, we had a lot of conversations about Bucky Irving this past Sunday. You did the Sunday livestream with me, and I've felt pretty vindicated because I was. I'm a pretty

pro Bucky Irvan. I didn't rank super well this week, but I sure did hit on the Bucky Irving side this week. He's coming in off of, you know, his performance last week with a really really solid rank of sixteen, going up against the Carolina Panthers, which is an incredible matchup. So ECR sixteen, but both of you guys got him lower. So Fitz, let's start with you. You've got him at RB nineteen this week. Your take on Bucky Irving. It's still

a nice rank inside the top twenty. It's an incredible matchup. Talk to us about Bucky.

Speaker 3

Yeah, when I was putting my rankings together on Monday, I landed at running Back nineteen for Bucky and was thinking that seemed kind of high. And then ECR comes out of Tuesday and I realized I'm three spots below consensus. It's just it's about as high as I can get on a guy in to split backfield, even though the

matchup against the Panthers is ultra favorable. But like, it pains me to fade Bucky because he has been so impressive this year five point four yards per attempt catches passes among all running backs with at least forty carries. Bucky is number two in yards after contact per carry with four point one point nine. He's ninth in breakaway run rate, and all of that statistical goodness shows up when you watch Bucky like he is a fun watch.

He's slippery, he's an ankle breaker, He'll string together moves. He makes defenses look like the Keystone Cops at times out there. So I'm probably at least one spot too long on him. Might have to creep him up a little bit, But I just I never like being overly high on a guy who's basically splitting work fifty to fifty, and that's the case with Bucky and Rashad White.

Speaker 1

I think that's yeah, that's definitely the case that they're splitting in at the fifty to fifty Market's just they use the running backs a lot and Both of these guys get a lot of touches, and Bucky is optimizing every single one of those. You just would love to see him get to twenty plus. I think it when he ended like eighteen, like twelve carries and a handful of catches somewhere around there. But Scott, you got him

about the same rank. Probably a similar take in general on Bucky Irving that the total workload is what scares you off from ranking him higher.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I echo pretty much everything Pat said. Irving's been fantastic. He's been just as good a receiver as for Shad White, where we thought maybe White would have the check mark there, and he's been certainly the most explosive back here. Well, also makes me a little bit nervous. I know this hasn't been sticky every week, but there's just been some weeks for Sean Tucker has gotten some run. He had

four carries last week, he got a touchdown. Four different Tampa Bay players had rushing touchdowns last week, including Baker Mayfield. So if you're a Bucky Irving manager or a White manager, I mean, you need Tucker to not be a factor. You don't want him to steal five touches here and man the target tree for the passing game was a phone book too. So Tampa Bay is an offense. We know.

We love their playoff schedule, right, They get Carolina this week, They have another Carolina game later in the fantasy playoffs. The Tampa Bay has maybe the best fantasy schedule of all the teams. But you'd like to see a more

tight concentration of where the ball's going. But sometimes you just have to bet on talent and the idea, and I there's going to be some hot hand element to this, but if I'm get abound anybody ripping off a nineteen yard run with Tampa Bay, it's Bucky Irving and the fact that he's been just as good as his receiver

as White. And they basically made their statement with their usage that yeah, it's a committee, but Irving is the one A to White's one B. I think you can start Irving with a fair amount of confidence.

Speaker 1

Yeah, and a key I just also throw out if you watch when you watch that game, the Shawn Tucker touchdown came off of a big Bucky run and he was pissed when he got taken out. And then Sean Tucker the same thing happened again, and that's where Shaun Tucker fumbled at the goal line, and then the next opportunity Bucky Irving was given that. So maybe something to look out for the future even a little bit more upside. And I agree, I'm betting on the talent of Bucky Irving.

I'll be the high guy of US three on Bucky again, even without twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2

I've got to see somebody can fumble at the goal line. Who is it named Tyrone? Because I feel like he's done that like seventeen times.

Speaker 1

Well, we're gonna talk about Tyrone Tracy because he comes in at ECR twenty two this week. You've got him scot right at ECR fits is a tiny bit higher. He's going up against the Dallas Cowboys, four star rating at B minus grade. He's the final RB. It looks like I guess him and Rico are the final ones that go from B to the C range. So why don't you kick us off here with Tyrone Tracy offense is kind of a rough go in general, it's the

Dallas Cowboys. As far as the matchup, What say you on Tyrone Tracy and his funnel?

Speaker 2

Yeah? I would love to have him in the top twenty, but the fact that he's putting them all on the ground. They actually vultured a touchdown to Devin Singletary, who would you know, obviously is not the talent that Tracy is right now. And maybe the Tommy story can have like the Cooper Rush trajectory where it's like, Okay, the first game was bad, but things get better, but he's a little bit dinged up. I don't know if Drew Watck's gonna play Brian Dable coaching for his job. The leak

neighbors is unhappy with his role. Just so much chaos in this Giant's offense right now. In the Dallas they've been competitive lately. I mean, they should have won that game easily at Washington and had a very chaotic ending. What a fun week twelve it was in the NFL, especially that early window was a blast. But I think Tracy is somebody I would have said two or three weeks ago, Yeah, if you have Tracy, you're playing them. You have to have absolute royalty to bench him. I

think there's enough, just tiny little nicks. I didn't want to call them flags. I feel like I'm nitpicking because you again, you want to bet on talent. He's an explosive player, he makes yards after contact, he gets to

the second level regularly. But coaches hate fumbles. And I'm just afraid that maybe Devin Singletary's touchdown equity, which might have been zero percent a couple of weeks ago, it might be like maybe fifteen or twenty percent now, And god forbid, if Tracy should fumble in the first half, I could see him getting benched for it. So I'm just a little bit of trepidation before I sign up for a running back on an offense at right now, is pretty hard to trust.

Speaker 1

No Briest Hall, Braylan Allen or Tyrone.

Speaker 2

Tracy this week. I think I'd have to go. Alan, I think I might be with you.

Speaker 1

You're a little bit higher. You do have him at RB twenty. So let's talk some optimism on Tyrone Tracy.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I mean, there's unquestionably risk here. As Scott pointed out with the fumbling issue, He's fumbled three times in his last two games, lost to fumble in each of the last two. His overtime fumble against the Panthers in Week ten pretty much handed Carolina that game. In Germany.

So it's possible Tracy sees a work reduction this week just based on fumbles in recent weeks, and if he puts another one on the ground, like he might be permanently on the bench for the rest of the game and you wind up with three or four Fantasy points. But I think Tracy does look like a special player. PFF right now has the Giants graded twenty third in run blocking and Tracy is still averaging five point one

yards per carry. Like that is a commentary on how good he has bet as a runner, and he adds utility as a pass catcher as a former college wide receiver, and he gets this electable Thanksgiving Day matchup against the Cowboys are twenty ninth in DVA against the run, so it all lines up. But yeah, this fumbling thing could kind of short circuit Tyrone Tracy's day on.

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Speaker 1

All right, RB's twenty five through thirty six. Little bit of meat in this one. Najie Harris coming in at twenty five. We've got DeAndre Swift, Kareem Hunt, Rashad White, Nick Chubb and Jalen Warren rounds out the thirty, followed by Travis etn Isaiah Pachecko, Gus Edwards, Jeremy McNichols, Javante Williams, and Tank Bigsby. Oh, gentlemen, there are a lot of questions in this one, and let's start with the chiefs backfield Kareem Hunt obviously takes a hit as far as

his rank. I think he was, like you know, into the high to mid teens early last week. He falls down here to twenty seven with Pacheco active, but Pachecko comes in at thirty two. So there's definitely a hand up situation that's going on here. The matchup it's against Las Vegas. It's a good four star rating, even though

they give it C plus because of the usage. Pat, let's start with you, what do you think Isaiah Pacheco's volume is and that directly most likely correlates to what is taken away from Kareem Hunt and his value dropping down. So how do you make do of this RB situation?

Speaker 3

I mean, my guess is fifty five forty five Hunt Pachecko, and that is just a complete guess. It could be Pochecko getting sixteen carries in Hunt gets six and it's probably not going to be as close to fifty to fifty as I'm saying. It's probably more of a decided split. I know they asked Chiefs offensive coordinator Matt and Agey about this and he gave kind of a cryptic reply

that didn't resolve anything. I guess my thinking on having Kareem Hunts ranked about six spots or so ahead of Isaiah Pichecko is that with the Chiefs A ten and one, they have the luxury of kind of slow rolling Pachecko's

return and just not rushing him back. Why give him fifteen plus carries when you know he's clearly the better running back I think than Kareem Hunts, who has performed admirably in Pachecko's absence, but is not the playmaker that Pachecko is, So why risk your three peete hopes with a Pachecko re injury potentially? So I feel like Hunt gets more work here, although that is certainly not a confident prediction.

Speaker 1

I feel like, ultimately this whole thing just comes down to, like, are you comfortable starting either one of those? And I think the easy answer is probably not. You don't feel comfortable. I think Pachecko is probably the biggest potential dud of all of these. But Scott, what do you say here? You know, if you had both of the I have Pacheco in a spot, I'm not going to start him this week. Maybe I don't even have like luxury, but I think I have, you know, just some options that

it's not like, you know, Pacheco or Jerome Ford. If that were the case, maybe I just you know, throw a dart and try to put Pacheco out there, because you never know they coul put him in a goal line situation. He scores a touchdown and five carries, he saves his day. But I feel like it's really hard to envision that he's going to get some mass volume of carries this week.

Speaker 2

But Scott, what say you, yeah, I need approve it week from Pacheco. I will not start him proactively. I would think maybe seventy thirty sounds like a likely split. Obviously, things can change in the middle of the game, if there's an injury, if there's a fumble. Just remember the Chiefs, you know, they obviously they lost the Buffalo, but they're still in control of the AFC, They're in control of their division. I don't see any good reason and this

is just one of those. Okay, get some reps, get Isaiah pa Checko hit again, get them in the flow of things. You know, I think at the end of the day is going to be oh yeah, Isaiah Pacheco played fifteen snaps or something like that at twenty snaps. I can't see him getting anything close to a role I could feel good about. And Hunt, I don't know. He's still got a fair amount of goal line equity and he eventually is going to pass the Batona Pacheco, I just don't think it's going to be this week.

It's a Friday game, it's an out of routine game. I don't know why it would make any sense for put Checko to come back to a heavy role here. So you're glad he comes back this And this is another reason why I often fade these long term returney guys is that when they come back, you need that gap week. You need the show me week where we know their conditioning is in place and their role is back to normal. So even though you may have waited on Pacheco this long, a lot of people are not

going to start him this week. Everybody's in play and it's a prudent decision to keep them on the bench. So when you're looking in the future for guys who are out long term, remember there's a lot of times that extra week where they're in uniform but they're not really playable. That just delays their fantasy usefulness. For another week, and I think it's something that doesn't always get factored in.

Speaker 1

So there's a couple of really interesting running back situations let's talk about. Let's start with the Commander's one. There's some questions that we don't have answered. I suppose at this second we pretty much we know Eckler's not going to be out with it. We're not going to play with a concussion. There's an ankle injury with Brian Robinson, and you guys can correct me if you've seen the report.

I know that there was optimism that it wasn't a high ankle sprain, but it leaves in some serious questions that he plays this week. I personally do not believe that he plays. And in comes Jeremy McNichols, who is my top target for waivers, even if it's just one week. He has a rank of thirty four, and I believe that rank is people throwing in. He's probably going to be the guy. But Brian Robinston is still floating around.

Let's start with you, Brian Robinson. First off, do you expect Brian Robinson to play, and if not with Jeremy McNichols, if he is the sole guy, where do you think he properly should be ranked?

Speaker 3

Well, the signs kind of point to Robinson not playing, considering not only did the Commanders sort of re sign Chris Rodriguez from I'm not sure if he was on a practice squad or they may have released him, but then they re signed him and now he's going to be active again. But I think I saw that the Commanders also worked out this week, like Boston Scott and James Robinson, so that would certainly suggest that Brian Robinson's

Week thirteen status is in jeopardy. So I'm probably going to remove Brian Robinson from my rankings he's in there now and move up McNichols to about RB twenty five twenty six or so. Like he's a capable player, and I think like when he was sort of first breaking into the NFL, he was sort of a designated passing down back, so you know, he's got dual threat potential. Yeah, and it does seem like he's going to be the primary back for Washington more likely than not.

Speaker 1

Okay, so then would you rather Jeremy McNichols in that backfield alone or Kaream Hunt with Pacheco active this week?

Speaker 3

I would go with McNichols.

Speaker 1

See that's where I'm at too, Scott, same question, McNichols, he's the sole back. Where does he rank? And then would you rather Hunt or McNichols.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I think McNichols too. It's interesting when Pat mentioned that McNichols was an active pass catcher back into Tennessee days, because they have not used him at all in that role this year. He only needs three catches, but you Ecker's such a good pass catcher that maybe that speaks to it. And also McNichols has a better success rate this year. I know it's hard to know sometimes with

backup running backs, how do we handle their efficiency. It's almost like comparing a relief pitcher to a starting pitcher in baseball. It's not in apples to apples comp but he does have the best efficiency rating or success rate in this backfield, So I would think in a game, Washington should control another on the three game losing streak, I know the Tennessee defense isn't that bad. Usually the Titans give games away because Will Levis does four or

five things wrong. But bottom line, at the end of the day, I think fifteen to eighteen touches for McNichols and maybe a sixty percent chance at a touchdown. That's what a kind of game I'm looking for in week thirteen.

Speaker 1

All Right, the third back of this triad of of potential starts that are out there. We talked about Braylen Allen, who could be Jeremy McNichols. Looks like he will be. We got an affirmative it is happening. JK. Dobbins is not going to play in week thirteen, and it looks like for the foreseeable future it might be the rest of the season. The Ravens curse poor JK Dobbins. What that does is that thrust Gus Edwards into the lead back role. It also throws in, you know, the other

potential guys. I think they had Haskins active, you got Vidal, you know, like where are they going to go with that? But I think the question to talk about is Gus Edwards here. Gus Edwards ECR prior to the news this morning was at forty one.

Speaker 2

Fitch.

Speaker 1

You look like you had been kind of aggressively ranking him, like JK. Dobbins was going to be out. So let's just start with you. We know Dobbins is out. Is Gus Edwards going to be the main guy or are they going to sprinkle in these others? And how do you rank him for this week.

Speaker 3

RB thirty three, Yes, main guy, but a sprinkling of either Haskins or Kamani Vadel or both. You know, Gus is twenty nine years old. He's a plotter. He doesn't offer any pass catching upside whatsoever. But he's very familiar with the Greg Roman system and vice versa. Greg Roman knows exactly what he's getting from Gus Edwards. So I would expect Gus to get somewhere in the neighborhood of fifteen carries with you know, zero catches and considering that

he just has no explosiveness whatsoever. I mean, you kind of really need him to fall into the end zone for him to pay off. That's why I can't really get him any higher than like mid range to low end RB three.

Speaker 1

It's what he used to do. It's all he used to do. Was my number one touchdown bet in week one was like Gus Edwards is all he does. Scott rank Braylan Allen without breast Hall, Gus Edwards and Jeremy McNichols in your order of favorites to start.

Speaker 2

Yeah, Alan McNichols Edwards for me, and it's gonna have to be touchdown to Yodoran for Gus Edwards. But the good news is although the Falcons have not allowed a lot of fantasy points the running backs, the metrics say that their rushing defense is ordinary. And we saw last Monday, right, I mean, Gus Edwards nine carries eleven yards, but then in the game they got near the goal line they

called his number. So it's almost like you're streaming a tight end here and you're just hoping for the touchdown to pay it off. That's who Gus Edwards is. He will not catch a pass for you, he will not make an explosive play for you, but he will get double digit touches and he's got goal line equity and that's always going to be playable in fantasy.

Speaker 1

Yeah, And I think that's kind of the big key here is this offense is humming and if they get into the red zone, he's probably going to be the number one guy if they're comfortable running the ball with him. So said Wards, a viable Week thirteen start, Yes, Jeremy McNichols, Yes, crazy maybe Braylan Allen. A lot of big stuff, a lot of big questions, and that is why we are here for you, except not this week. I still have this promo in here, but we are not going to

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