Hey, this is Stephen Ferdick. I'm the pastor of Elevation Church and this is our podcast. I wanted to thank you for joining us today. Hope this inspires you. Hope it builds your faith. Hope it gives your perspective to see God is moving in your life. Enjoy the message. I thought what I wanted to ask you before we sit down. All right, I've been thinking about this for a month. No, I haven't lost. Yeah, about one pound.
If you were going to preach right now, Let's say, let's say a Sunday morning at the Potter's house and uh, Pastor Joel was scheduled to preach. Where's Pastor Joel? But he got he got injured doing five hundred pounds bench press. Yeah, and they say, Bishop, Pastor Joel's not preaching, and the praise team is finished and Marcus has dragged out the music as long as he can. And you've got to preach? What text you preach? I think I know, but I want to see if I'm right. What Texa? You don't know?
You don't you know? For God said she had appointed me another seed in the stead of Cain, who Abele slew? My subject is he'll do it again. No, I didn't guess that one. Have a seat, Yeah, have a seat everybody. So that's in the Bible, that verse. How many you have ever listened to Bishop Jake's preaching? You're like, does he have the same Bible that I have? I never, Oh, I was going to tell you this. So my oldest
Elijah the other day, can I tell him? We're on the porch, and I quoted Bishop quote to him and I said, you know, well, Bishop always says blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, h one of these little parables that you spit out like they're you know, just this beautiful, beautiful, beautifully crafted thing, right. And he goes, oh, that's Bishop. I always thought that was a Bible verse. What I'm saying to you is you are so loved in the Ferdic home that my kids think you wrote
parts of the Bible that aren't in the Bible. That's how much you mean to us. I've never been told that before a boy life. I can't make that all. That's amazing. I love you all too. What does that feel like, though, to have the to be the most imitated preacher in the last fifty years. I'm not sure that's true, assuming that it is, because assuming that that would be true, imitation is the highest form of flattery.
But if there is anything higher than that and more important and flattering itself, is to find the true power of being you. Yeah, yeah, why be a cheap copy of a great original when you have the option to do yourself. So when you're starting to preach, people say, be yourself, be yourself. But when you're first starting to preach yourself sucks, like not as a human being, but as a preacher. It's true. So then you hear, oh,
don't imitate anyone else. But like I wanted, I actually wanted to start the conversation tonight because this book is a gift, and thank you for taking the time at this stage in your ministry to share this. I think it's so relevant and I've I've been waiting for this, you know, I think a lot of people have. But I wanted to start not just talking about communication in general, but im okay, right, because imitation isn't always a bad thing, right, No, well, okay,
you want me to go pass? No okay, no, Well it's freach like it's a bad thing. It's the spiritual danger. Let me explain what mentorship really means. It means that when Samuel grew up and was brought by Hannah into the house of Eli, he was unable to discern the distinctives between the sound of Eli's voice and God. That is an initial stage, that God sounds like the person who mentored you. Gradually you come to a point that the umbilical chord cuts and you have to go here
to lay down. The third time before he recognized that it was God talking and not Eli, and he says. Eli says, when you hear the voice again, go and lay down in the same place and say, speak Lord, that servant here. So it is my job to gradually lead you from God sounding like me until you can hear that God sounds like God, and you see, you see.
And so that weaning process starts with him being weaned from Hannah, and now he is being weaned from Eli, that he might draw the breast milk from the breasted one himself and thereby find the nutrition that he needs. The other thing that's important to realize is that we are looking at a generational passing of the mic from Eli to Samuel, and for Samuel can hear God but cannot discern him. Eli has lost his ability to hear the voice but can discern him. So there is see Okay, okay, okay. Look,
Eli couldn't hear the voice. He was sleeping. Okay. Samuel, being the young people, could hear the voice but didn't understand what to do with what they heard. Okay. We have a generation of people that can hear the voice, but they like the wisdom to understand what to do with what they hear. Eli, on the other hand, has lost his ability to hear his adventurous proclivity to step out into the unknown. He's playing it safe. His eyes are growing dim, his senses are decaying, but his discernment
is still keen. So what Samuel needs from Eli is wisdom and discernment. What Eli needs from Samuel is the adventurous curiosity that allows him to hear the unhearable. This is all in the first seven minutes, and it's so funny that you should bring it up because we are on the impetus of a transition now that is similar to the transition of days gone by. God said, I am going to do something through Samuel that is going to cause both the ears of them that hear it
to begin to tingle. And he chooses to do it to a person who has yet to learn the confidence to hear the God that is going to do it through him. So the promise of God is bigger than the reality of the individual, and he has to grow into it, just like he had to grow into his mother's coat she brought up every year, not knowing for sure what size he would be. She makes the coat big enough that he can grow into it, and greatness
must be grown into. Yeah. Okay, so when you're first starting out and you're preaching or you're communicating, because this book isn't just for preachers, right, but we'll talk about preaching because we love to talk about preaching. Let's do that. I want you to know that, by the way, my whole goal for this experience is for you to get a little bit of a taste of like this would be us on a Tuesday night in three hours have gone by, and this is what I wanted to understand
about growing into it. When you're inspired by somebody like the way I've been inspired by you. First of all, did you have somebody that you studied the way that I have studied, you had several and I still do. I listen at every orator imaginable, whether I agree with the message or not. I watch for the delivery, the technique and the style. You can learn from litigators, you can learn from comedians. You can learn from preachers. I know the content I want to deliver it, but the
vehicle I want to drive at home. Man is a conglomerate of all of these different styles and the propensity. It's like asking a gospel artist, can you learn anything from a jazz artist? Can you learn anything from a classical pianist? Absolutely? And incorporate all of those different modalities into your style. And the more diversed those modalities are, the broader your stage becomes. So what are you listening for? When you're listening, I'm listening at how they connect with
the audience audience. I'm looking at how they enter the room. I'm listening at the rhythm. See, great preaching is almost musical. Great speaking has a rhythm. It has a cadence, It
has a voice inflexion and a tone. It has the ability to have a rhythm that is syncopated in such a way that the hearer can hear it in pace and in rhythm, so much so that if you start to speak and you draw the audience into the rhythm of the pace of the speaking through which you are conveying information, and then in the middle of the pace and the rhythm us pause. The pause is what I call the pregnant paulse It's what David calls see law in the Psalms. It is a moment for them to ingest,
digest and appropriate what has been spoken before. And sometimes the exclamation of the importance of the statement is the silence that you let it ride in on. Does it make sense? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And most young preachers are afraid of the silence, so they've run to make noise because they need the affirmation that the crowd is still there. But you have to have enough confidence in the material that God has given you that it will do what it was created to do. And the word
of God does not need crutches. And to those that are litigators and prosecutors, and those are who are running for election and those who are applying for a job, truth needs no If it is true, it is true. And the human ability to sense truth is utterly amazing. It is not just the verbalization of paragraphs and the conglomerates of chapters. It is we hear with more than our ears. We hear with our eyes. We hear through body language. We hear through voice inflection, we hear through
pitch and tone. This is what's wrong with marriage, is that sometimes your mouth is saying something, but your body language is saying something else. And women who are particularly intuitive are not just listening at what you said. They're listening at your body language and the way your eyes flinched and the way you didn't look me in the eye when you were saying it, and all of that brings them to it. See how the women are clapping. Come on, sisters, Come on, sisters, talk to me, Holly.
And this is how the man gets trapped because he thinks I said the right thing, but they don't understand. She's hearing with her eyes. Yeah, she's hearing with your behavior. She's hearing with how you dropped your pinchion, change your tone and looked away and did not look her in the eye. And all of that says that you're avoiding the straight on gaze that comes when you are sure of who you are and what you said. Said I
drop him, it's fun. That was a great moment to understand that as an orator, and every one of us in here are orators. Whether we get paid for it or not. We deliver messages to our children, to our wives, to our husbands and our family. Depends on how adept we are a communicating. And here's the challenge. It is one thing to communicate a fact to plus two us four. Whatever goes up must come down to communicate the fact.
It is one thing to communicate a feeling. Some people do not have not made a connection between heart and mouth. The Bible teacher is with the heart man believeth unto salvation, but with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. So to be able to articulate, I'm sad, you know, I'm sad today. I am so sad today that it feels as if I will never smile again. And I cannot
explain to you fully the source of the sadness. But it is as if all the color has been washed out of the earth, and water does not feel wet, and though the sudden rose, it did not shine. And though I am breathing, I cannot get air. And my soul is said to be able to describe a feeling to the point that it's depressed all of a sudden. You know or or I love you. I love the scent of your hair, I love the gleam in your eye. I love the way you lay your head on my shoulder,
and I love the way you need me. And I'm not afraid to show me. Well, you know, what do you love about me? I love you? That's fine. What do you love? Some people do not have the They have not worked out in the gymnasium of communication enough to express what they are feeling. It is not that they're not feeling it, they haven't worked out to use the skills that are necessary to communicate what is in
the heart. And so many marriages explode for the lack of something that both of them have, but they drop the mic. They don't communicate effectively one to another what you need, And so you leave this woman who actually had what you needed but didn't know how to give it for some other woman who knows how to talk it but doesn't mean it like the woman you left. And that's also true with the man, irrespective a gender.
This is what happens, and this is what happens in our country, and in our world, where we are talking at each other most of the time, couples don't really listen. In the book, I talk about listening because I think that the art of being a great speaker is being a great listener. So I listen at you. I listen at you, I listen to other people. I listen at
everybody speak. I listen at somebody when I'm counseling, and I'm a fierce counselor because I listen at you, and I remember what you said, and I draw a line between everything that you shared with me, because listening is more important than speaking. If I lose my ability to hear right now, gradually my ability to speak will begin to enroll because I can longer hear, so my ability speech begins to deteriorate. Because here is an association between
hearing and speaking. So the art of being a great speaker is also being a great listener. Listening at the text, Listening at the text. Now, Moses, my servant was dead, but as I was, was Moses. So shall I be with you? Listen at a God whom Moses dropped, And while Israel was still grieving, God turned his head and continued talking to Joshua, as if nothing had happened at all. Now, Moses, my servant, is dead. But as I was was Moses, so shall I be with you? In other words, nothing
important has changed. I am still the same. Moses is dead, but I am still the same. And I will continue my purpose irrespective of my vessel. And I am going to do it through you not Do you want me to do it through you? Not? Would you like for me to do it through you as I was with Moses? Sosia. Oh, it's a boss move. The text is a boss move. There is a boss move, and so you But you can't read it and get that. You have to listen at it. You have to feel the intensity of it.
You have to hear the sobbing in the background of a nation of people who have lost the leader that it has taken them forty years to love and it will take them four hundred to get over. And while they are weeping at the bottom of the mountain, God, shit's not one tear over Moses. He knows exactly where he is. He will have him escorted by his angels out of the situation where they last saw him. Rather than tweep, he turns his head and said, I will
continue everything I was doing through you. That's what's happening now. God is turning his head. Great leaders are passing, great leaders are retiring, Great leaders are expiring, and God is turning his head to the next generation and saying, as I was with Moses, so shall I be with you. Can you imagine being Joshua being terrified because there's nothing worse than coming behind a great speaker. To come behind Moses, yeah, I've had to preach after you before that's fun comes stop.
To come behind Moses and to have the responsibility. I wrote don't drop the mic to say to young people. Number one, the mic is yours. It's not going to be yours, it's yours. We are still alive, but it is yours. It is your generation that must be reached and touched and maintained relevance today. And I am just telling you that the mic is heavier than it looks. Don't drop it when your feelings are hurt, don't drop it when you're angry, and don't drop it. Can I
ask you about that jump jump? And I think it was nineteen ninety seven Michael Jordan played this game. It was game five in the NBA Championships, and he had the flu and he scored thirty eight points. I want to hear that's Michael Jordan's flu game. I want to hear a Bishop Jake's flu game story, like a time where you stood. I can't think of a time that I didn't. I can't think of a time I can't. I can't think of a time that I didn't. I
had back surgery. They dug into my back four inches four and l five when I came out of anesthesia in the hospital with a day's surgery. That they were going to keep me over a couple of days. As soon as I woke up, I slid over to the side of the bed and threw my feet out and stood up on them and started walking. My wife wanted to kill me. The doctor thought I was on crack. But I heard the doctor say that if I could work walk to the nursing station, they would let me
go home. It hurts so bad that I started sweating, but I wanted to go home, and the doctor said, let him go. He said, he's not the kind of guy you can keep and let him go. Let him go home. And I have always been a fighter. Now what's this with the pain that came. There's still a certain amount of anaesthesia, and you after the the anastesiologist is woking you up. You really don't know how fully
how you feel. For a day when I came out of complete anesthesia and the pain is riveting, and I had a chance to speak, maybe not that Sunday, but the following Sunday, I sat in a chair in front of the stage to prove to the devil that I don't need my body. I don't need my body to be able to preach. There is something going on between my heart and my head and my mouth that requires nothing on my back. And I sat in the chair with my church packed, and I spoke irrespective of pain.
This is the tenacity that I passed to you with the mic. The tenacity says, I will override the way I feel and do what I was called to do. Yeah, yeah, So I prophesied as I was commanded. I did a reconciliation conference years ago while the million man March was going on, and I was criticized and I was threatened, and I had death threats on my life and they were going to shoot me, and I put my boys in the background, because I didn't want their last sight
of me to be bleeding. But I walked right down the streets of Atlanta with thousands of people fully prepared to die for what I believe. If you believe a thing that you are not willing to die over, it is not worthy of your faith. You know I said this before, and I shared with you, and I want to place this off you and you can tell me what you think about it. Thinking it's the final frontier of privacy we have left. Our technology had invaded every
other idiom of communication we have with each other. That our texts aren't safe, our face times aren't safe, our phone calls are not safe. The only safe place where there are no drones, where there are no hackers, it's within the confines of my own mind. And with that being my final frontier, I refuse to allow you to tell me how to think. Yeah, because thinking is all I have left. And so once I open my mouth,
my thoughts have become public. And once they have become public, they are going to be scrutinized and criticized and ostracized, and they're going to alienate me from this group or that group or the other. But that's why I must incubate him in the womb of my mind before I birthed them out of the canal of my mouth. Because once the thought is birthed, I'm sorry, doesn't always retract it. HM, when you're I think you said incubate them in the womb of my mind before I birthed them through the
canal of my mouth. That's right. Yeah, no, no no, no, no, no, I want to say something. Is that gross? No? No, it's gross that you can do that without ever thinking about it. Just say stuff like that. Sickening is maddening. The word in Lagos in the beginning, what's the word? And the word was with God, and the word was God. Logos doesn't begin with speech. It begins with thought. That God is pregnant with thought, that he created what he thought.
Everything we have on. Somebody thought it and then they drew it, and then they got a material and they sold it, and then they made it. But it started as a thought. The chair was a thought, the building was a thought, the pulpit was a thought. Everything star says a thought. In the beginning was the thoughts of God. And the thoughts of God was with God, and the thoughts of God were God. And out of the abundance of his thoughts he spoke, and it became whatever he thought.
Let there be light. What is light? What I think it is? Let there be light. It wasn't even a word. It wasn't even a word. See what I'm saying, But it is what I think it is. Let there be light. And it became what he thought, and it became what he said. But in order to become what he said, it had to be what he thought. And so you become great in your mind before you become great on a stage. And whatever you think you are, you are, and I'll show you. I prove it to you. You
can be a great preacher. And get in the car, and the enemy will fight you in your thoughts all the way home, because the enemy knows that the thoughts are the birth canal through which your preaching comes. And if he can convince you that you are not enough, he can terminate your ministry. Not because he couldn't shut your mouth, but he shuts down your thoughts. For as a man thinking in his art, so is he talk to me, somebody, look at somebody, say I can do this.
You affirmation spoken over yourself, particularly if you're a person that wrestles with insufficiency complexes, it's the reason you have that. The reason you feel that way is because the way you talk to yourself. If you change the way you talk to yourself, you'll change how your story is. The Only thing the woman with the issue of blood did that saved her from dying was change how she talked to herself. She said, within herself, not to anybody else, if I may but touch the hem of his garment,
I'll be made hole. So the greatest sermon starts within you. And so when you what you are saying to yourself will either make or break what you are doing with your life. So she said, if I may but touched. There was no scripture that said if you touch the him of his garment, you'll be made whole. But that was the way she thought about it, like there was no definition for light when God said, let there be light.
But it became what he thought, And there was no definition for her to get healing by touching the hem of his garment. But she thought the thought, and she said it to herself until it became what she thought. If I may be touch for him of his garment, how'll be made whole as he falled through the crowd on our hands. Oh, I'm doing it again. I'm sorry, I'm doing it, I said, be just be cool. No, I'd love to hear this. I'd love to hear you know. We can have a hard time imagining that you would
struggle with those insecurities. The first time I heard you talk about when you used to preach, you put the mic on a stand, yeah, because your hands would shake so much that you couldn't hold the mic. Yes. And I almost thought, I don't believe him. And I mean that with respect, just to see who you are, what you do. There was a part of me that thought, you know, he's saying I'm sweating through my clothes. I
would stutter so bad. And I think I think it took me a minute to believe that, because I couldn't believe that that same voice that talks to me that way talks to you the same way. I guarantee you, I scrutinize, I will go home, I will go back to my hotel and scrutinize everything that we said still yes tonight, because that's the only way to get better. And when you stop getting better, you start dying. When a teacher ceases to be a student, they begin to
be irrelevant. So to have the courage to critique yourself and say, I could have done this better, I could have done that better, I could have explained this. Wonder did they really get what I was saying? Are still the voices that live in my head, but they don't live too loud? See See, the art of it is not to kill the voice, is to cut the volume down. So instead of existing out a ten, maybe it exists at a three. I don't want to kill it because
if I kill it, I'll become arrogant. And if I become arrogant, the Bible says, when you were small in your own eyes, I bless you, And if I become arrogant, I will lose my knowinging. So I don't want to kill that voice of dissension that balances my accomplishments. And so God balances my accomplishment with the throwing in my flesh that makes me question myself. So I don't want him to remove the throwing in my flesh because I need balance for the weight of the glory that he
placed in my life. But I don't want that voice to become so loud that it cannibalizes what He has created in me. And so when I say don't drop the mic, I'm passing on to younger, newer, because everything new isn't young. There may be somebody who's forty or fifty who has spent their life doing one thing, and yet they're about to be new to doing something they've never done before. So this you understand, so new isn't
about chronological agent. On the other hand, there may be somebody who's twenty five who's stuck on being fifteen and refuses to grow up, and they're not ready yet, and they're not precocious enough to evolve into the magnitude of what God has called them to do. So instead I'll
just leave it a very neutral statement. To whoever's new and whoever's next, I want them to understand what's normal with communication and to respect communication, so that you don't just say us anything to anybody, and you don't become a troll on Twitter because you know that words have power, and you don't keep saying things to your wife that you have to apologize for because you let them incubate
in your mind. Some of them are aborted and not birthed because you find out it was and as important as you thought it was. Because eventually she will get tired of I'm sorry, and you will lose somebody you need because you drove them away with the with the acrimonious, vicious tone in which you attack who you love, because we often attack who we love, and we're polite with people we don't love because of yeah, am I daughter.
She this is a problem. Listen, men, listen women. A lot of times, when a man thinks you won't leave, he will. He will abuse you because he is frustrated by life and circumstances, and he has to be polite to whom he doesn't know, but he feels free to attack you because he is attacking him. You treat your woman like you treat yourself, and she gets caught up in the orbit of your reality. She treats you like she treats herself. And so we're two planets connecting, and
those two orbits come together. And if you are cynical and doubtful and a fread, you have nobody else to vent that on, but somebody who you think won't leave. And so what we have to do is to be ride or die enough to stay with you, but not enough to allow my stain to give you license to abuse me. Okay, so we can talk about anything, but you can't vent on me because you're insecure about you. So when you said turn it down, I felt every one of us in the room kind of asking the question,
how how to turn it? You know, it's not like a knob for the internal critic, for the shame for the and so you turn it down? How First of all, you have an inner circle of people that you trust to reaffirm you. We need each other. We need each other no matter who you are, A large or small, you need. You need a girlfriend. Every woman in here needs a girlfriend who can tell her that that dress is not for you. My wife says. My wife says, this is why my wife says it. She says she
either needed a friend or a mirror. You need somebody who needs to tell you that purple lipstick is not your calling, okay, because you want to try different things, and you need somebody who is who has license to be honest with you and who can affirm you when you're just a friend and tell you you're not worried about nothing. You were awesome, You were incredible, and you need to let them reaffirm you. Now, here's the bigger
problem with turning it down. Sometimes we won't let people encourage us because we will reject what they say by trivializing them. Or you're just saying that because you're my wife. You're just saying that because you're my mother, because you're addicted to pain. You refuse the physician because you're addicted to the pain, and so in order to recover from that, you have to let the physician come and bill you
until you echo what they are saying about you. And little by little you come into a place where you think, not I can do all things, but I can do all things through Christ, which strengthens me. And whatever I did and whatever style I did it in as long as it accomplished His purpose, not mine, it was enough. I was nervous one day and I was going to speak in West Virginia. I was a young man, about twenty something, and I was real, real nervous, and it was in here, what's up, I gotta I got a
hill billy up in here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, take me home country, roll to the place I belong, West Virginia. My mama when you know all the wordst of that, that's you horizinal I learned on acoustic guitar. Really, that's my jam boy. Okay, but but what you have to your pastor is crazy. I hate to tell you this, but your pastor is crazy. He's one of my favorite people in all the world. And talk to h He's incredible. He's inquisitive, he's intellectual, he's articulate, he's creative, he's annoying
it he's amazing. And part of my call in his life is to turn down the tone of the other voices by saying that was amazing and fighting through the propensity. All great people have to be self critical. One of the signs of greatness is to be self critical because you're a perfectionist. And it's people who hang up a code any kind of way, who can leave a closet in any condition, who cannot spell check a statement before they release it are telling you that I won't be great,
because greatness is in details, not platforms. So you don't have to be rich, you don't have to be famous. The more you care about details, the closer you get to greatness. You know, and when your details are wrong, you want to correct them immediately because it matters to you because the moment, the moment you open your mouth,
you start to teach people who you are. If you and I sit down here and nobody knew us in the room, and we sat down in the chair, as long as we didn't open our mouths, they wouldn't know whether we were lawyers or doctors, or gangsters or drug dealers. They wouldn't know. They would make certain assessments by our clothing. But the moment we utter a word out of our mouths, immediately the computer of their brain begins to scan to
learn about who we are. That's why language is important, because it teaches people who you are, and it teaches people what you need. A lot of times we're angry with people. I have let me confess, I have been angry with my wife, really angry, deeply hidden, and angry about something she wasn't giving me that I never asked her for. And it took me a while to realize that women don't read sign language, so men tend to
talk in sign language. So when we want something, we give you a signal, and the signal is so clear to us that when you miss the signal, we get secretly mad that she that fellas that I write about it. You can't tell what that meant, that that I sent you the signal, that that is the signal, and you miss the signal. How could you miss the sea and not realizing that I had to learn how to talk because I was angry with her over something she was
willing to give, but she couldn't read sign language. So don't drop the mic on your marriage, don't drop the mic on your ministry, don't drop the micael on your career, don't drop the Michael on your children, don't drop the Michael on the next generation. Just keep talking. If black folks and white folks keep talking, we will at least we will at least get to be as smart as great danes. You don't see brown great danes fighting with black great danes. You don't see a white Doberman pincher
arguing with the brown Doberman pincher. We are the only species that allow the color of our exterior to deny our common experience. You don't if you know deep sea dibin, you don't see all the goldfish hanging out on one side and all the bluefish are on the other side, and the bluefish are snaring at the goldfish, talking about I'm better than you. What does the animal kingdom know about species that the human species has yet to learn.
They know that we are the same species. They know that if you start bleeding and I have the same type of blood that you do, the difference in our skin will not stop the transfusion. They know that my kidney will replace your kidney, and your body will accept my kidney. Even though I'm a black man and you're a white man, we're still men. Why aren't we still having this stupid conversation about power when we need to allocate power equally and honestly and fairly, and killing me
won't make you king. So so you're not any greater by looking down at somebody. You actually become greater by looking up at somebody, because the further you push me, the higher you go. You understand what I'm saying. So so so these types of things I thought, I thought, for can I talk about the von Trail for a minute? Yeah? Absolutely, I thought the Derk charvon Traill talk many things. I thought I talked many things. Uh, personally, I agreed with
the verdict. I thought it was quite obvious you can tie my hands all day and lay me face down on concrete, and I will not die. And I have high blood pressure, I will not die. I might get a cramp, and I might get hungry, I might even I might even pass gas. But I will not die. Okay, I will not die. So offering that as an understanding for reasoning of why he is dead seems a little bit acidine to me. However, there are greater lessons to
be learned. You had six white jurors, four African American jewors, and two biracial jurors who, when exposed to the same truth, drew the same conclusion unanimously. So think about this for a minute. That means that if we're not getting along, we're not being exposed to the same truth. The Chavin case is the greatest argument for democracy in the world. It proved that officers could testify against bad officers, and that speaking against a bad officer doesn't mean that you
are disloyal to good officers. Is shut down every argument we had. What we are at war with is not the police, and we're not at war with each other. We are at war with abuse and wickedness and human depravity and the loss of dignity. We are at war with your son laying down in the street, bleeding out on a sidewalk, screaming for his mama. And yes he is flawed, and yes he has problems, and yes he has issues, and yes he may need to be arrested, but he does not need to be tried on the sidewalk.
That's all we're saying. We're not saying he's sub virgin married. We're not saying to Guy's mother, Teresa. We are saying that when you find something wrong with us, treat us like you do when you find something wrong with your nephew and your niece. That's all. I'm gonna ask an honest question in here. Everybody who's ever been drunk at least once in your life, would you stand up for a minute if you've ever been drunk in your entire life. There are as many white folks standing as black drogs,
There are as many women standing as men. Now let me ask your question, did you want to be choked to death for it? That's what we're saying. Bishop. We've lost them, found out the beginning to hit the souls at one point, God bless you, brother. I want I wanted to publicly thank you for your patience and and guidance on this. I called you when at Mother Emmanuel Amy in Charleston. I wanted to speak about it to my church, and you picked up the phone to guide
me through it. You know, you could have you could have talked to me. Our church wasn't always diverse, and the more diverse our church became, the more I needed to learn and the more I needed to listen. And Uh, you were there for me, not with judgment or how could you be so stupid not to know how to speak to this or to not get it. But it took many conversations for you to help me even understand what I was speaking to and what my silence communicated.
And I wouldn't have known that without you in my life. I wouldn't have known that without you in my life. I also think that a lot of people don't have that kind of relationship where they can admit their ignorance right without the fear of judgment. You're right, and so they practice on Facebook. It's true. Yeah, it's funny, but
it's true. Yeah, where you can get slaughtered. My advice to all the white folks, black folks and brown folks in the row is if you have an idea about a racial issue, don't try it out on Twitter or Facebook. Find you a couple of people that you want to talk to about it and say, how does this sound to you? And it's not that I'm trying to change your opinion, but how do I need to word it where it can be heard? Because how you word it
determines how the other person hears it. And you can have the opinion of your choice, but you need to be able to word it. It's like talking to your wife. It's how you worded you know, you know, does my behindling big and disease? Now? Is how you answer this question determines the next seven dinners that you're going to eat in this house. Evening activities, yes, every evening activities and everything are going to be deterred for a long
time if you don't answer this question right. First of all, you have to know whether big is a compliment to her or not in one group of communities. Cut the camera and cut the camera. You've been on lockdown so long. Yeah, it's amazing you let me out of the house. You're gonna get it wrong. Here is the thing, though, it's a funny illustration, but it's a good one. Your cultural background controls what you think is good. So what is bad in one community is a compliment in another community.
And so in the book I talk about studying your audience before you make your statement, because you will know whether you are insulting them by what you're saying or not. You know. And all of this is not just to make better orators. In the Manable, God used the most bilingual people to do the biggest assignments. Moses, who is born a slave on the hitless of Pharaoh, destined to die hidden in his mama's tent, built She built a art and put him in the bulrushes and selled him down.
The noun Pharaoh's daughter picked him up and brought him in the palace. So he's a slave raised like a prince. He is educated like an Egyptian, but he is connected to the slaves. God can use him to go back and speak to Pharaoh because he knows the protocol of the house in a way that a slave would never know. The broader girth of your experiences, the more diversely God can use you. Now, Peter walked with Jesus the longest
Paul was a Christian killer. But Paul spoke in five different languages, and Peter only spoke in one, and he was a fisherman, and it limited how God could use him. He couldn't send Peter to Mars Hill to speak to them at Athens because Peter couldn't speak Greek. But because Paul was bilingual, he is responsible for most of the epistles of the New Testament because of the broadness of his exposure, and so not all people get to be exposed to all the things that I have been exposed to.
I went to President Lusevani. His wife hosted a breakfast for me and brought in all of the aristocracy of Uganda to attend a breakfast on my behalf. The King of Swaziland through a dinner party for me, and I was a guest of the King of Swaziland. I was entertained by Nelson Mandela's family. I have been in the oval office of three Democrat, Republican and then Democrat heads of state. I spoke on the National Day of Prayer. I have spoken many times with Larry King, to Oprah Winfrey,
to Matt Crouch, to Paul Crouch. Today Star. I have spoken to Pat Robertson, I had spoken to Puffy. I just did an interview with jez and I just did just got off the phone texting Joel Ostein. From Jeezi to Joel, is I like that? Oh? Can I ask you one question? Sure, if Pastor Stephen Ferdick and Pastor Joel Ostein were both on a boat and you had to throw one overboard, who had left? Let me find out who can swim the best. And I'll answer the question.
Because I can't afford to lose neither one of you. I would left it. See how you get out of it? Did you write that down? That's how you get out of it when he dress you up. My point is not everybody will get those opportunities. I was on death row with a girl named Erica, right before they were scheduled to execute her. I know what it is to say last rites over somebody before they're terminated. I have baptized mongoloid babies and talk with the family as they
let them go off of life support. I spent three days in San Quentin mining the ministering the gospel where there are no offerings to inmate that have been forgotten about him forsaken. I've had thirty thousand formally incarcerated inmates to go through our Texas Offenders re Entry Initiative, and we were just invited to Canada to appear before Parliament to make a case for re entry programs in Canada. You can't amass that plethora of information and that exposure
not effect how you think. I was in the dressing room many times with Aretha Franklin. Her number, her cell phone is still in my phone. I never erased it. You know. I was in behind the scenes with Anita Baker on her final tour and was a personal friend of mine. I have met gospel artist, jazz artist, hip hop artists, some of the greats. Some of them are dead, some of them have passed on. My mother went to school with Coretta Scott King. My mother went singing the
choir with Corretta. I had the privilege of having dinner in her home on several occasions. She came to the dedication of our first church. I had Corretta Scott King in the same room with Pat Robinson, in the same room with Al Gore, in the same room with James Robinson. Now that's confusing that's as diverse and broad as you can go. At the end of the day, all of those experiences helped to inform me. The first thing I did to Dallas when I came to Dollars was not
run a revival. I rented the Dallas Convention Center and threw a party for homeless people, and we fed them and we clothed them, and we had a job fare. That's how I introduced my ministry to Dallas. Twenty five years later, we are still doing that. We are still feeding and clothing and serving and giving and helping the disenfranchise and the marginalized. I don't say that to break I am saying not everybody will go to Buckingham Palace,
not everybody will go to the Oval Office. But when you read what I share, you will gather my conclusions without making the trip, and should you go, you will have some preparation for understanding that the language you use in your circle is not the same language you use when you are doing an interview with a business journalist or a conservative talk show radio. It's different than doing a morning Did you learn that the hard way? I listened?
I didn't. I listened. Everybody is your teacher my mother told me the world is a university, and everybody in it is a teacher. When you wake up in the morning, be sure you go to school. Everybody teaches you something. The people who do it wrong teach you as much as the people who do it right. They all teach you something. My material is best served to people who aren't finished with themselves yet, who still have mountains to conquer, who still have dreams to dream, who still have valleys
to cross and rivers to ford. My material is not really good for people who are finished and satisfied and comfortable, and the only thing you want to do is lay on to be somewhere and count how much sand you can get on your thigh. I want to empower and empot and invest in whose next to lower your learning curve of becoming whatever it is you were created to become. That's what I want to do. And little, my little phrase,
don't drop the mic. If. Yes, it's for preachers, but it's for dreamers and thinkers, and people who want to write scripts and films and do movies, and people who want to do more than one thing and you're trying to pick which thing to do, and people who have diverse talents and interests, but you haven't galvanized them into one setting. Because I can relate to that. I was called to preach the gospel. I live to preach the gospel. I'm never more alive than when I'm preaching the gospel.
But I was also called to produce films. I just did two movies of Lifetime, Lust and Envy. Yeah, seven deadly sins, and I was able to share our faith on Lifetime's platform. That's an amazing opportunity, and it was. It was a powerful opportunity. You only get innovative opportunities when you give up on being traditional. That's a quotable right there. You only get innovative opportunities when you give up on being traditional. Now make it a sermon, put
a scripture to it. Oh wow, that I haven't used yet. Ruth leaves, which is tradition, to follow Naomi into the unknown, not knowing what she will have to do or what she will have to become. And she travels on her donkey down the path into the unknown. She makes a commitment by God, shall be by people, my people. And whether I dwell as I will dwelling, whether I dies, I shall die but she had never seen bethela have.
She was just courageous enough to walk into the unfamiliar and had the dexterity of thought and the nimbleness of mine to say to herself, I'll figure it out when I get there. Yeah. And so I feel excited. I feel excited like I'm feeding somebody. There's a feeling I get when I'm feeding somebody that is in this room right now. I'm feeding somebody. I don't know who it is, but I can tell I can feel it in my spirit. I can feel it in my belly. I am feeding
somebody in this room. I can feel it in my soul. You don't fit the pattern. You broke the mole. You're out of the box. You think differently. You got ideas and concept that you're afraid to share with anybody because they don't get you. And God sent me here to tell you you're not crazy. That you can be this as, that you can produce film and preach the gospel and write books and write up as and do commentaries, and
that you can do more than one thing. That you can be an architect and an accountant, that you can open up a donut shop and do hair, that you don't have to be locked into a prison of how people describe you. There is more inside of you than what you have discovered. Yet I don't know who I'm talking to. Maybe they're streaming online, maybe they're reaching from across the waters. But God sent me here to say,
don't drop the mic. Keep on talking about it, keep on dreaming about it, keep on fighting for it, keep on saying it, even if you don't have nobody to hear. You walk around the house talking to yourself, talking to yourself, telling yourself, if I made a touch, if I may but touch, if I may but touch the him of
his garment, I will be may hold. And if you have to crawl for it, and if you have to get money for it, and if you have to press through the crowds of people who don't think you deserve to be that close, then push on in there anyway and get your touch from God. Most people who have greatness inside of them are the last to know it. And when you talked earlier about the many times we've had conversation, it was oftentimes to help you see what is obvious to everybody but you if it were not
obvious to everybody, else they wouldn't be in here. But what they don't realize is that you can see everybody but you. And that's what I tell people about me. I can see all of you, but I can't see me. So if my shirt isn't hand right or my collars up, when I see the picture, I hate myself. But the reason my collar is up in my pocket square may not be straight up, and and and maybe my softs will run down is because I cannot see myself. Now. Catch this the way that it's true about my appearance,
it's also true about my gifting. When you are truly gifted, you often cannot see it. So you could be gifted and see everybody's gift but your own. Yeah, And and what I was telling you was being a mirror, so you could see that was great, that needs work, that was awesome, that was not your best sod That trust between us creates mentorship because I know you have a blind spot like I have a blind spot. Where you
cannot see yourself like you have a blind spot. And if you're not careful, your blind spot will always leave you thinking that you are not enough, that you're not tall enough, or short enough, or thin enough, or handsome enough or cute enough, or smart enough, or bright enough, or gifted enough. But even the greats question themselves. I've met them. They have the little voice that ran home
with them too. They double think themselves too. The difference between them and us is that they feel the fear and do it anyway. They feel the fear and do it. This is why I love coming to you, This is why I spend my opening night with you, because there is an energy in this place of transparency. Then you get to have the most intimate, intelligent conversations because you draw intelligent, thinking people. Not everybody who's spiritual is also intelligent.
Crazy people love Jesus too. You could come that out. I probably should have said that you have something to live for, to go for, to evolve into. I don't care if you're seventy, if God was finished within you be dead. There's still something in you to contribute. And whether you are seven or seventy, don't drop the mic. Don't let the enemy talk you into dropping the mic, because all of us have a commission to do in the earth, and to do that thing that you were
created to do is what makes your soul dance. It's what makes creativity spring up like flowers in springtime and decorate the canvas of a ground that has never been plowed. Have you ever noticed that some of the most beautiful flowers were never planted. They just grew up arbitrarily because the season was right. And I want to say to you that amissed all of the craziness and chaos and confusion in the world today, that it has just broken
up the soil for the season to be right. And I think we have an obligation to tell what we learned, how it felt, what we know and what we do not know to you so you don't waste time taking my classes to jump start you to go to the next dimension. And for me, the book is a legacy piece. For me, the book is to say to you, I know you're scared. I know you overthink things, and I know sometimes you don't think you're enough and sometimes you feel like an impostor because you know all sides of
you don't line up with the best of you. Work on yourself, improve yourself, repent, confess, cry, crawl, take classes, courses, do pilates, whatever you need to do, but do not drop the knight because it's your turn and it's your time and want I prayed when I was a young man, young man pre twenty, I said, Lord, if you ever bless me, don't ever let me be know any young man's soul. Let me live a life so fulfilled that
when David comes, I can clap. I don't want to get old and get jealous, so that if I digress from playing the game, I can always coach and be just as fulfilled because I lived everything in its own season.
You see, And this is the goal you want to set for yourself in life, is to live everything in it season, so that when the season changes, you're not living in the past trying to recreate what is gone, and to do you the way you do you and enhance that and grow that by your exposure every book I ever read, every movie I ever saw, every staff meeting I have ever been in. I have got to be in the staff meetings of some of the sharpest people in the nation. Not to brag. See, we get
in the room and we do selfies. That's dumb. Get in the room, past the selfie. Get the experience. Show me you were in the room by what you do with your life, not by what your post with your picture. If you do that, If you do that, if you take more notes than you tweet, wow, then you won't feed the house and starve to death. Because when you tweet, you feed the house. When you take notes, you eat yourself. So be sure. I'm not saying don't tweet. I want
you to tweet. Tweet tonight. Hashtag don't drop the bike. Back home, y'all hear me? Hashtag don't drop the mic, watch it on line? Hashtag don't drop the mic, hashtag, don't drop the monkey. What's that hashtag again? Hashtag don't drop the mike? Yeah, do all of that. There will come a day that this room will not be possible, But you were here. I sat with Maya Angelou and had her be a guest at Magifest. I was sitting not too far from her when she quoted her poem.
At President Obama's inauguration, I was sitting right behind Aretha's hat and besides Colin Powell on the stage in the freezing cold and the inauguration, and I was there. That moment will never happen again. I rode over with Rick Warren that moment will never happen again because some of the people that it would take to recreate it. Are not even here so cherish every moment. I was just having a flashback Bishop the first time that we spoke at a meal, somebody came to the table and shared
with me how the church had changed their life. And you you did this thing, because I think the greatest sermons that you have preached to me have been something that was never on YouTube. And I think that's something people should should understand about you, is that your best sermons usually aren't recorded. It's the way you live your life and minister to people. And I remember when the guy finished telling me, you know, this is where I
was in the church changed my life. And you said, you did that thing, the thing that you do with your eyes where you look and passed my stern them into my guts and you go and you had I remember this. You had a steak knife and you were pointing the steak knife when you said this. So it's very very effective communication tool. And you said, that's an
amazing moment. And I was like, yes, sir, and you said and you said, we had just been talking about critics and controversy, and you said, don't let them have your moment. That's your moment, and that's the knife that's still here. And you're saying, I'm just trying to recreate it for you, you said, and you you said it about about four or five times. What moments have you allowed to be stolen that you wish you could take back?
I was invited to write op eds. Sally Quinn, who was with the Washington Post who ran the on Faith section, invited me to write op eds for the on Face section of the Washington Posts. And I wrote about three of them, and I got on and read the comments beneath them, and they so discouraged me that I gradually quit. And when I saw Sally again, she said, why have
you stopped submitting your up eds? I said, well, I thought I wasn't very good at it because when I read the comments beneath them, I thought they don't like me. And she looked at me and burst out laughing, and she said to me, the average reader of the Washington Post has a master's and the average person in the comments can't spell. And I then realize that I had allowed people to talk me out of a platform who weren't even a part of the intention of the founder.
The reason I stressed that to you is that if you're not careful, you'll let somebody who has never been in your seat talk you down from the place that God has given you. You'll let somebody who can't run a barber shop critique you on how you run the church, and you will go home and hurt and humiliate it because they insulted and tell you what you are to do with a platform that God never gave to them. They don't seem to realize that if God likes your plan,
he would have given you the platform. But you have to know that, even if you don't say that, you have to know that so that you don't fool around and walk away from a master's level opportunity because of a mediocre comment. I lost that opportunity. I lost that opportunity, And I think about I texted you a few weeks ago about a sermon that you did on shame. Yes, he still wants you. Yeah, And when I watched you preach that sermon, I think I actually called you and
said that was amazing. And then I said that sermon looked expensive. You said it was expensive. Yeah, Can you talk a little bit about the expense of that kind of ministry? I think that I invested at preaching texts that somehow resonate with the repertoire of my own experiences. I think that you cannot preach about my phibus chef if you have not been dropped by someone you trusted. I don't think that you can talk about him adequately into your cripple has a cause that was out of
your control. I don't think just studying commentaries and Hebrew words will adequately enunciate what drives a prince to lodo bar and makes him be carried out and lay flat on the floor. And for a prince, the child, the grandchild of a king, to say I am a dead dog, that kind of depletion and loss a pedigree can only come within the gaze of someone who can relate to that kind of experience of a basement in your life.
That is the part of preaching that cannot be taught, that must be caught, and it must be personal enough to you that you are talking about him, but you are drawing from you until you and he have become so fused together that getting him up off the floor is getting you up off the floor. I remember you do this to me, See you do this? Why do you do this day. I've preached this in London years ago my boys were little. One of my sons is
here tonight. He was there, and I was crawling across the floor, trying to make it from the floor to the chair, and in dramatizing the approach of the fibers Chef who was laid on the floor like a thing but called to a chair like a king, and the space between the two realities in his life, I started crawling because in order to get yourself up off the floor to the chair, you have to crawl to get there.
And as I was crawling and I was almost there, the crowd crumbled, and I was glad they crumbled so that they couldn't see me crying because I was preaching about him, but I was also talking about me, and I lost it, And I hope Pestor Matthew sees this tonight.
I literally lost it myself in the message, because there's a point where you are the message, you become someone with the message until John one Pin fourteen materializes on that stage, and the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld the wonder of his glory, the only begotten of the Father full of truth and grace, until the word is made flesh and you are willing to pay the price of the kind of investment that personalizes the deliverance of the text, until you are really
that that you are declaring you will always be impotent. Potency that penetrates the human soul is connectivity. And as you extrapolate from the text, the facts are nice to know that if you're not willing to invest your own pain, your own tears, and your own struggle, if you're not willing to re examine who dropped you and what you would have been had they not dropped you, and how you ended up in Lodobarrow when you should have been
in the succession of Kings. And here comes a second chance that by bloodline you deserve, but by situation you can't imagine. And yet you start crawling. That crawl, brother, is what got you to this day. That crawl is what got me to this. That crawl is what gets everybody to wherever they're trying to go, crawling against the resistance of the adverse winds and the gravitational pool to mediocrity.
Let me say this. I know we're running a town, but this is important for you to get Failing is easy. If we're climbing a rope, all you have to do to fall is let go. You don't have to study books on failing. Falling is simple. Just let go on a rope. The gravitational pool will always take you as low as it can until there is an obstruction. If the floor gives way, it'll take you lower, if the
ground gives where to take you lower. The gravitational pool is never satisfied at how low it will take you. And the only thing standing between you and it it's the grip you have on the rope. And so though your body weight is heavy, maybe not as heavy as mind, but heavy, and it is hard to pull the weight up higher, and your arms are aching and your sweating, and you're tired of everything and everybody drawing off of you.
All you have to do is look down and remember that if you let go of the rope, your fate is sealed. And that's what makes you keep climbing. That's what keeps you on the wall, and that's why you can't drop the mic. I want to say one other thing to you. You don't realize you have not met all the people that you were talking to. And the book talks about my ancestry and the antiquities of my
faith and the ancestry of my bloodline. And my ancestors were what is now Nigerian, and they were from the tribe of Ebo, and they came as a couple and survived the tempestuous mental passage and did not throw themselves overboard in an attempt to drown themselves. Rather than to be penalized with the next four hundred years of slavery, they chose to withstand the atrocities of the times and continue.
And that's why I am here, and all of them are sitting in this chair with me, my grandmother, my great grandmother, and Grandma Nancy Jakes, who was born a slave and died a free woman that I remember. She's sitting here tonight too, and her father and mother are sitting here too, And my great grandfather, Willie James Smiley, whose brothers who lived on the other side of the street were called Williams because you got the last name
of who owned you. And though they were full blooded brothers, the street that separated them chains the name that defined them. And I cannot find them all, but they are all sitting in this chair with me today, I am saying that we are the sum total of everything that happened to all of those who came before us. That your grandmother is not dead. She's still living down inside of you. And your great grandmother, though you may not remember her, has some morsel of wisdom in the way you think
and drink and process and move and live. And I am saying that, on the blood of all of those who went before you, you cannot be the generation that drops the mikes. You cannot, you cannot, you cannot set up.
I want to say to you, if you're a white American and your people came over on aboute with much of nothing, running away from Great Britain and came to the possibility of another country, the wow foreboding tempestuous opportunity to break away from the domain and the dominion of Great Britain and dare to establish a different kind of republic that promised freedom and liberty and justice for all in spite of the fact that it didn't fully live up to the promise, it dared to make the assertion.
And if they own wagons with pairs of depth and sickness and destruction, pressed their way into the inner fibers of this nation and took something and built something, and became something out of nothing, with no running water and no plumbing systems and no highways, no trains and no buses and no ovens and no microwaves and no Apple phones and no emojis and no twitters and nothing like that to help them, and with drawing water out of wales and walking for mouths and cooking over live rocks
and stones that were placed on wood instead of ovens. If they survived, then how dare you sit here, with all the stuff you've got and let anybody make you fair that you cannot make it, that you cannot take it, that you cannot rise above the fray and be something
bigger than yourself. If they survived cholera and disease and death and pneumonia and plague and freezing cold and bears and lions and prey, and build their houses out of logs, then how dare you sit in your nice brick house and your jacuzzi in the bags and say that life is not worth living. I stuck my hands in the claw marks of the Africans, whose claw marks are still on the walls of Elmina, where they were fighting not to come to America. I ran my fingers down their
nail prints. I smelled the stench of their body fluids that are still existing in the Spanish castles where they were held hostage, waiting on the next ship to come. I stared at the church that was above it, then noticed that the missionaries were also masters, who raped their
daughters while they sang Amazing Grace. And I listened against the waters beating against the rocks, and thought, what kind of stuff must my ancestors must have been made out of to withstand all the perils and injustices and steal insist on sobriety. If we got up at four and we were in the cotton fields by six, and we picked till the sun went down, with bleeding hands and aching feet for days and days until we died, and
never knew what a paycheck was. Ever, we were the first people to come to America with the sign will work for food. And the food was the pot liquor that the master left. And we eat what we eat, because that was all we could have with the feet of the pig and the neck of the pig, and the chintlings of the pig, because all of the finer cuts went to the master. And still we lived, and still we lived. And not only did we live, we sang. We sang while our fathers were hung and our mothers
were raped. We sang, having got long to stay here. We sang against oppression and death and destruction from the enormous Pettis Bridge, with dogs turned loose and water holes its beating us down. We sang. We sang as the charred bodies of dead little girls were brought out of burning churches. We kept singing when they shot the thirty nine year old doctor Martin Luther King Jr. In the head,
We sang while we cried, and we made it. If we survived colored bathrooms and extra water fountains, and survived the separations of having to learn in the basement of the churches and they were burning down by the KKK. If Black Wall Street was burned down in Tulsa, if we had to endure Rosewood and we still made it. You cannot sit there with your apple watch and your black skin and tell me you can't make it. There ought to be enough fight cavern. There ought to be
anough fire cover. There up to be enough drive govern the conrectis come Hell or our water. I'm on the blood of all of my ancestry. I will not be the one who drops the light. I will not in here and let it die. Will not drop this my sad. I will not drop this SI again. I will not drop this slike side of gin. Will lot drop this
slike giming my frid. If you survived the Holocaust, if you survived diversity, if you survived the Great Depression, if they survived the plans of the past, and all of the pneumonias and all of the dephtherias and all of the polios and all of the diseases and COVID, will not take me out. I will do whatever I have to do, and I will fight whatever I have to fight.
But I refuse to let it take me out, because I have too many ancestors who survive to get here and die without doing what I was created to do. I let nothing separate me from the love of God, neither height nor death, nor powers, nor principalities, nor things pasant, nor things to come. So this is my little down payment. Don't drop the mic. It's just my little way of saying, don't you let nobody turn you round. That's the way we were saying, don't you let nobody turn you around.
That's why they were singing on the Norman Pettis brig Don't you let nobody turn you round, turn you around, turn you round, don't shoe let no bad turn you around. She poll walking up the Jeez Hollway. Don't you let no body turn you round, turn you around, turn you. Don't shoot yet, nobody turn you round. You got to keep on walking up the tee away. Don't shoot that nobody. Don't let him turn you round. Don't let them turn you. Don't you line, nobody turn you got the tiba walking
up the cheese. They had the water holes on them, They had the dogs baiting them. They were bleeding and the hoses were cutting into their flesh. And all the while they were bleeding, they couple singing us on, I ain't gonna let you turn it around. Keep Paul walking up the key highway. Don't choo let it what. I can't hear you. I can't hear you. Don't to that nobody, You got your teeth, poll walks, don't chew that. Nobody turn you not author riders not hit replacement, not back sogery.
Don't you lighting tat you lie? You got your teeth ball walking up the team. How don't you that? Nobody turn you more? Tell you ah time, don't do that. Nobody tied you. You got some kippoll walking. This is America, This is America, and we're doing one more time. You're gonna help me. Don't do that, no bad time. You don't love to turn you. Don't let her tell you. Don't do that? Nobody you got some kidpoll whoa whoa whoa Bishophidi DAGs everybody you got litening. It's over. It's ye,
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