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Alfred Pennyworth vs Edwin Jarvis

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• 0:00:00 - Introduction
• 0:06:13 - No-Prize Time
• 0:12:02 - Question of the Week
• 0:12:57 - Alfred Pennyworth vs Edwin Jarvis intro
• 0:16:28 - Edwin Jarvis history and powers
• 0:22:42 - Alfred Pennyworth history and powers
• 0:30:02 - Fight speculation
• 0:37:15 - Duel results
• 0:39:37 - Sign off
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This is a Dynamike Network podcast. Hey Marvelous Joe here! This year's holiday charity drive is now officially over, wherein we collected donations from listeners for Pop Culture Classroom, a non-profit organization that delivers educational resources to school districts, teachers, and community organizations using pop culture media. Thanks to all of the generous donors who gave to support the organization's mission to inspire a love of learning and build community through

the tools of popular culture and the power of self-expression. The drive was a competitive fundraiser this year, with the only stat being which side? Marvel fans or DC fans can donate the most. Everyone who donated received a digital poster featuring original art of Alfred and Jarvis drawn New Yorker style by Johnny DC and one lucky random donor will win a framed print of the Alfred versus Jarvis art which we're happy to announce will be going to Andrew Shunk.

Thanks so much Andrew will be in touch to deliver the print the frame of which was generously handcrafted by one of our very own listeners Nathaniel Wagner. How cool is that? As for which fanbase is the most charitable, well the winner of this year's charity fundraiser, the site that donated the most is... Team DC. Although Marvel had an early head start, DC fans came back in the end to donate a total of 10 more dollars than the Marvel side, bringing the

total donation to just under 100 dollars. I guess DC really does stand for dang charitable. Good job guys, we're super proud of everyone who gave, you are what the entire season is all about. Happy holidays everyone, and on with the show. Hi and welcome to the Dynamic Duel Podcast, a weekly show where we review superhero films and debate the superiority between Marvel and DC by comparing their characters in stat-based

battle simulations. I'm Marvelous Joe. And I'm his twin brother, Johnny DC. And in this episode, our annual holiday charity duel episode, we are going to find out who'd win in a fight between Alfred Pennyworth versus Edwin Jarvis. Now most years we do a charity duel between two like animal or pet. characters between Marvel and DC. Like in the past, we've done Crypto the Superdog versus Throg. We've done Howard the Duck versus Detective Chimp. Last year,

we did Cosmo the Space Dog versus Dexter, the Red Lantern. But this year, it's going to be the two butler characters from Marvel and DC. Alfred Pennyworth, of course, everyone knows him from the Batman comics. Jarvis, I think a lot of people know more from the Iron Man movies as an artificial intelligence. But in the comics, Jarvis is the Avengers butler. He's a human being, even though there is an artificial intelligence to Jarvis as well.

But we'll get into that as I go into Jarvis's backstory. Before that duel, we're going to break down the latest comic book movie news to come out this past week, of which there has been none because Jonathan and I are recording this episode super early due to the upcoming holiday festivities we have in our family. So this episode is being recorded early. And of course, we're probably going to get some huge news that's going to drop later on this week

that we'll have to report on in our following episode. Oh no doubt, yeah, always happens. So no news, but we will be asking a question of the week. As always, we list our segment times in our episode description, so feel free to check out the show notes if you want to skip ahead to a particular section. As our listeners may know, our duel simulator is so advanced that it's gained sentience, and has named itself the Artificial Lifeform for Running Extensive

Duels, just a rather very intelligent simulator 9000. Or Alfred Jarvis 9000. He has a quick message for our listeners, so listen up. Why hello there. Do you love listening and chatting about Marvel and DC? Then become a part of the dynamic dual community on Patreon where you can choose from three tiers. The dynamic 2-0 tier lets you listen to this podcast without ads and gives you access to its Discord chat group where you can chat with Johnny DC and

Marvelous Joe. The fantastic 4 tier gives you that and more with two bonus episodes each month including bloopers and top 10 shows where Johnny and Joe count down your favourite Marvel and DC subjects. The X-Force tier makes you an executive producer of Dynamic Dual. where every month you help the hosts choose what to review and who to fight against each other. And finally, the Dynamike Podcast Network tier allows aspiring podcasters to create their

own battle-focused show using this Monte Carlo simulator. Johnny and Joe will help you develop your show, provide graphic support and consultation, and get you simulation results to announce on your show. Pitch the twins your show via email at dynamicduelpodcast.gmail.com or by reaching out to them on social media. your pip cheerio. The Send Your World podcast is a show that speculates on fights between your favorite anime characters.

It's currently on hiatus through the month of December, but the host Zack has released a bonus episode that we forgot to mention last time that pits Scorpion and Sub-Zero from Mortal Kombat against each other, which is a tie into our newest show on the Dynamite Podcast Network called Console Kombat. In which hosts John and Dean find out who would win in fights between your favorite video game characters. In yesterday's episode, they speculated on who would win between

Ryu from Street Fighter and Paul Phoenix from Tekken. Visit dynamicpodcasts.com or click the link in our show notes to listen to all the shows in the Dynamike Podcast Network. But with that out of the way, quick to the No Prize! A No Prize is an award Marvel used to give out to fans. Our version, the Dynamic Dual No Prize, is a digital award we post on Instagram and in our email newsletter for the person that we feel gave the best answer to our question

of the week. Last week we asked what other actor from Guardians of the Galaxy would you like to see cast in the DC Universe and in what role? And this is coming off of the news that Sean Gunn has been cast as Maxwell Lord in his brother James Gunn's DC Universe. Right, Sean Gunn being the actor who did the mocap for Rocket Raccoon, and he also played Kraglin in Guardians of the Galaxy. We got a lot of answers for this week's No Prize, which is surprising because

there was only a two-day turnaround time. So thanks to everyone who answered. Let's go ahead and break down the honorable mentions as well as the No Prize winner. Our first honorable mention goes to Brandon Estergard, who said, Hey guys, I would cast Zoe Saldana as Star Sapphire in James Gunn's universe. The Lantern series is supposed to play as like a based on a Technomorph story and definitely think that Star Sapphire would play the femme fatale

in that story. And casting Zoe Saldana would definitely add to the hype of the show, which arguably is the one that everybody's looking forward to the most. Yeah, of course, Zoe Saldana played Gamora in the Guardians of the Galaxy films. Star Sapphire is an enemy but also romantic interest for Hal Jordan, the Green Lantern. She is essentially a purple lantern as it were a member of the star sapphire core who harnessed the power of love. The star sapphire costumes

can get pretty risque and so I am approving this Zoe Saldana casting choice. I'm sure they wouldn't be as risque in a live action version but yet so there's going to be a lanterns television show that comes out on max I believe that James Gunn is setting up so if Zoe Saldana was star sapphire she would appear in that show, which is rumored to be a kind of true detective space

cop esque Green Lantern show. Right. And of course, we've seen the character of Star Sapphire or rather her alter ego, Carol Ferris in the Green Lantern movie that starred Ryan Reynolds. Now, I don't know if Zoe Zaldana would actually take on the role for a TV show. I could be wrong. She technically is like the actress with the highest grossing box office record of all time. Yeah, between Avengers Infinity War and Endgame and the Avatar films. Right. Exactly.

She knows how to sell some tickets. Great answer, Brandon. Our next honorable mention goes to Nate Mantineo, who said, The dynamic tool, it's Nate here. And I would cast Dave Bautista as being in the DC universe. As you know, he's played Jax and Guardians of the Galaxy. And I think he's fit and has the great voice for being. Also, it could just be Mocap or just

a voice to. anything would really work. Dude, we've been saying for years, I think we were the very first ones in the history of existence to say that Dave Bautista should play Bane, right? I don't think that's true. Like years ago on this podcast, I think we told everyone to tweet out like hashtag Bautista for Bane and like get it trending or something. It never did, obviously, but I think we just put it out into the universe first. I want to claim credit

for it. I mean, Dave Bautista is now like in his mid 50s, but I don't give a crap. He still should play Bane because the guy is still fairly ripped and he's a decent actor. I think he could definitely bring both the muscle and the intelligence to play the character well. Yeah, Nate wasn't the only one to give this answer. Scott Camacho also said Batista should play Bane. So great answer guys. Our final honorable mention goes to CJ Kraft who said, Hey guys,

CJ Kraft here. I think I like to see James Gunn cast Dave Batista as Detective Chimp. His loud, booming voice coming from a character of such a small stature and smoking a corn cow pie just seems hilarious to me. And you know what? If Batista can't be Bane, why not Detective Chimp? He could totally pull off his simian voice. Yeah, I always imagined Detective Chimp having a British voice, but Batista definitely has the deep voice that I think Detective Chimp

should have. Yeah, just have Batista do a British accent. Why not? This was the perfect out of left field answer that I was looking for, so thanks CJ Craft. We want to give a big shout out to Andrew Shunk for also taking the time to visit our website and leave us a voicemail for this week's question, but the winner of the No Prize is Miggy Matagian, who said, Hey what's up guys, this is Miggy and I would cast Michael Rooker as Bibo Bogowski in Superman

Thanks guys. So of course Michael Rooker played Yondu in Guardians of the Galaxy and he also played Savant in the Suicide Squad. I think he was a terrible choice for Savant in the comics, the Birds of Prey comics. Savant is this like young pretty boy and Michael Rooker is anything but. In the comics, Bilbo Babowski is like this drunken sailor type dude that

is friends with Superman. And I think Michael Rooker definitely has the aesthetics and the charm to pull off such a sweet-natured character that is a part of Superman's cast of characters. And plus, Bibo has such a different look from Savant, I think you could easily pull off casting the same actor having the two look entirely different just through makeup and everything like that. Not that Savant's coming back because, of course, he died in the Suicide Squad movie.

I chose this answer as the no prize winner because this is one that I actually hope we get to see as soon as Superman Legacy. So congrats to Miggy for winning this week's no prize. If you the listener want a shot at winning your own no prize, stay tuned to later on this episode when we'll be asking another question of the week. And now that that's done, onto the news! Wait, nevermind. Onto the question of the week!

Alright, again, there's no news this episode, but we wanted to ask all of you, what has been your most favorite Marvel or DC related gift that you've received for the holidays? Yeah, this will be the last episode that comes out prior to the Christmas holiday, because our Aquaman review is coming out one day after Christmas on the 26th, so we thought we'd get a festive question in here and see what Marvel and DC stuff you guys have received in the past that

you enjoyed the most. Record your answer at dynamicduel.com by clicking on the red microphone button in the bottom right hand corner of the screen, which will prompt you to leave us a voicemail. Your message could be up to 30 seconds long, and don't forget to leave your name in case we include you on the podcast. We'll pick our favorite answer and award that person a Dynamic Duel No Prize that we'll post to Instagram and our email newsletter. Be sure to answer before December 21st.

So with the no prize and the question of the week out of the way, let's go ahead and move on to the main event of this episode, our annual holiday charity duel between Alfred Pennyworth and Edwin Jarvis. All right, Alfred Pennyworth versus Edwin Jarvis. Of course, as I mentioned earlier, these are the two Butler characters from Marvel and DC. They're not typically fighters, either of them,

as we commonly know them. Speak for yourself, speak for yourself. But that's kind of why we thought this would be a fun and interesting duel, putting these two man servants against each other. I guess you could kind of say that this is a tie-in to last episode too, when we did a review of Merry Little Batman. Alfred Pennyworth in that film was voiced by James

Cromwell. But of course there's been a number of actors to portray the character including Michael Kane, Andy Serkis, and Jack Brennan played the character in his very own television series. Has freaking Jarvis had his own television series? Nope. Kinda. I mean he played the secondary role in the Agent Carter television series back when that was out. Jarvis was played by James Darcy and he was Howard Stark's butler. So that was a nice little easter egg for fans who mainly

knew the character as an AI voiced by Paul Bettany in the Iron Man movies. I did not know he was in that show. Yeah. Yeah, he was hilarious. He was great. He was kind of like thrown into the mix of this spy espionage stuff. It actually sounds pretty cool. It was cool. It should be an interesting matchup if anything, but to explain the methodology behind our duels, let's go to our sentient duel simulator Alfred Jarvis 9000. AJ9K, tell our listeners how you go about

determining a winner in our dual matchups. Yes, of course, sir. The way I determine a winner between the contestants is by running 1,000 Monte Carlo simulations using the characters' statistics. A Monte Carlo simulation is a probabilistic model used to determine outcomes through random sampling. In this case, I randomize the statistics along a normal distribution as a way to simulate the many variables that can occur during battle. The stat parameters are based on the official

Marvel power grid. from which the DC characters' statistics are extrapolated. Additional stat categories are included, such as range, damage potential, versatility, and perception, in order to create a more detailed and accurate simulation. The results of the 1,000 simulations provide a percentage of wins for each character. The contestant with the higher percentage is declared the victor. as they have a higher probability to win any given battle. In an equitable pairing,

neither character should win 100% of the matches. The comic book stories have shown that there's even a way for Batman to defeat Superman, so the confidence rate of my method falls in line with the precedents that have been established in the source material. My mathematical simulations are without subjectivity or bias. Feats are not the sole consideration, nor are fan votes

tabulated for determination of the winner. Thanks, Ajay9k! Before we run the simulations though, we like to break down each character's histories and abilities before improvising a scenario on how we imagine one of the 1000 simulations would play out beat for beat. And it's been a while since we've done a duel, holy crap, almost a month now. But I believe it is my turn to go first with the Marvel characters' backstory, so let me go ahead and tell you

all about Edwin Jarvis. Edwin Jarvis was born to a modest upbringing in Brooklyn, New York in the mid- 20th century. As a teen, he ran away from home to join the Royal Air Force and served for Britain as a secretly underage pilot. During his time spent among the Queen's military, he trained in boxing and was the Air Force's champion boxer three years running, though he also picked up the finer points of being a gentleman as well as an upper British

class accent. Upon his return home to New York, he gained employment as a manservant for Howard and Maria Stark, the parents of Tony Stark. Jarvis continued running the mansion after their deaths, at which point he moved into the employ of Tony Stark, who is secretly the hero Iron Man, whom you can learn more about in our Cyborg vs Iron Man duel episode. Early in Iron Man's career, he helped form a team of superheroes called the Avengers, whom you can learn more

about in their team duel against the Justice League. When the team needed a headquarters, Iron Man donated the Stark Mansion, renaming it the Avengers Mansion, and Jarvis then found himself waiting on superheroes the likes of Thor, Captain America, and Ant-Man and the

Wasp, as well as the team's ever-revolving raw strip characters. Despite the changing Avengers members over the years, Jarvis was the one constant of the team, performing household duties and preparing the Avengers meals through every iteration, eventually regarded as an Avenger himself. Aside from his service to the team, he was also embroiled in several of their adventures, such as when the villain Ultron hypnotized Jarvis into believing he was the villain called the

Crimson Cowl and handing over the blueprints to the Avengers Mansion. Though initially shocked at Jarvis' apparent betrayal, the Avengers were able to defeat Ultron and restore Jarvis' identity and reputation. You can learn more about Ultron in his duel against Brainiac. Jarvis even had some of his own small scale adventures like when he stood up to and fought a local robber

who called himself the Bruiser and drove him out of the neighborhood. The Masters of Evil supervillain team once captured and tortured Jarvis during an attack on the mansion, causing him to nearly lose an eye to the villain, Mr. Hyde. After the Avengers rescued him, Jarvis wore an eyepatch for a time and took a brief leave of absence to recuperate. After his return, the inhuman princess named Crystal joined the Avengers and took up residence in their mansion,

bringing her daughter's nanny aboard, named Marilla, as a new member of the staff. Though Jarvis and Marilla started out as rivals over the mansion's domestic duties, they soon grew fond of each other. However, the Avengers later disbanded when it seemed the team had fallen in battle against the evil psionic entity known as Onslaught, whom you can learn more about

in our Chief vs Professor X dual episode. Depressed and living off of his pension from the Stark Foundation, Jarvis found temporary purpose at this time in helping deactivate a group of robots called the Protectorate that had been created to rep- placed the Avengers and had gone rogue. When the Avengers heroes returned, Jarvis resumed his role as their butler at

the mansion. Later, it was revealed that Jarvis had been sponsoring a young girl from the Central American country of Costa Verde, who came to visit the mansion when attending college in New York. It turned out she had shapeshifting powers able to transform into silver skinned animals, and she was offered a provisional membership on the Avengers team as the hero's silver claw

with Jarvis as her sponsor. Years after the Avengers disassembled due to an attack from a mentally unstable Scarlet Witch that led to the destruction of the Avengers Mansion, the team reformed and established their new headquarters in Stark Tower. Jarvis took up new residence there, serving the team and developing a romantic relationship with Spider-Man's Aunt May, whom the hero also moved into the building. I mean who hasn't slept with Aunt May, right? That's

true. However, Jarvis and May's steaming hot geriatric sexcapades came to an end. During the superhuman civil war, the heroes were forced to choose between working for the government or becoming fugitives from the law, and Spider-Man was forced to flee with Aunt

May out of Stark Tower. After the civil war, Jarvis was secretly replaced by an alien shapeshifting Skrull during that The Skrull Jarvis wreaked havoc on the Avengers, implanting a virus in all Stark technology, everything from Iron Man suits to the S.H.I.E.L.D. helicarrier shut down, and he kidnapped Luke Cage's and Jessica Jones' baby. Eventually, when the Skrulls were

defeated, the real Jarvis was found alive, and the baby was returned. After Hank Pym's death and his secret daughter Nadia joined the Avengers as the new Wasp, Jarvis took her on a road trip to meet her extended family. You can learn more about the Wasp in her duel against Bumblebee. She and the hero Beast saved Jarvis' life after he fell into a coma while rescuing a child

from a crumbling building during an attack by the villain called the Challenger. After his recovery, Nadi developed an assistant artificial intelligence for the butler called Jarvis. And while he saw it as perhaps a sign to retire, the AI assured him that his programming was far from complete. And that's his backstory. Jarvis has none. Though he was a skilled hand-to-hand combatant from his time in the Royal Air Force many decades ago, he's kept up on his self-defense

training with help from Captain America. He's even more skilled, however, in the fine art of cooking and baking, specializing in ginger cakes. He can steep a mean cup of tea, or when the occasion calls for it, makes a fine old-fashioned cocktail. He's adept in the use of brooms, mops, and featherdusters, and is among the world's finest at wheeling around a serving cart. He does have a few weaknesses, including an allergy to nuts and cats, the latter of which makes

him avoid the Avenger Tigra. Well, yeah, I assumed the latter, right? And Tigra doesn't have nuts. True. Fair enough. You mentioned that Jarvis can whip up a good old fashioned cocktail. Well, Alfred can whip up a good old fashioned can of whoop-ass on Jarvis. Thanks to his experience, of which I will now go over. Now, Alfred Pennyworth, Batman's butler, was born in England under his birth name Alfred Beagle, the son of a butler named Jarvis and a mother who was a stage actress.

When Alfred came of age, he joined the British Army, serving as a field medic in numerous conflicts around the world. After several terms, Alfred retired from military duty and became a professional thespian for the Globe Theatre, like his mother, developing stagecraft skills that he later taught to young government agents when he became a trainer for MI5. He was eventually recruited by MI7 for clandestine operations. As part of his retirement, he was forced to

leave Britain and change his name. At the request of his dying father to carry on the family trade, Alfred became a butler serving under the wealthy Wayne family in America under the surname Pennyworth. It was only a matter of months, however, when Alfred decided to move on from Gotham City and his career as a butler to return to acting. Prior to informing Thomas and Martha Wayne, however, Alfred noticed that their young son, was being bullied at school.

Having no son of his own, Alfred took it upon himself to train Bruce in how to strategically outwit his bully, and after his training proved successful, Bruce asked Alfred to stay with the family, which Alfred obliged. Not long after, Thomas and Martha were murdered in Crime Alley, after which Alfred and a local doctor named Leslie to allow Alfred to become Bruce's legal guardian and prevent Bruce from becoming a ward of the

state. When Bruce left home at age 14 to study abroad, Alfred and Leslie started a romantic relationship that would last for decades. Serving as the custodian of Wayne Manor until Bruce Wayne's eventual return, Alfred supported Bruce's plan to eliminate crime in Gotham, helping him develop a self-obsessed playboy

You can learn more about Batman in our Batman vs. Moon Knight duel episode. Alfred's medic skills also proved invaluable in treating Bruce's injuries that he would sustain in his crusade against crime. When Bruce took the young orphan Dick Grayson, Alfred vowed to be more involved

in Dick's life to prevent Dick from going down a similarly dark path as Bruce. Alfred helped train Dick Grayson to be Batman's sidekick Robin, and watched as Dick matured into a full hero in his own right as Nightwing, who you could learn more about in our Nightwing vs Daredevil episode. The same could not be said for Jason Todd, Batman's second Robin, who died at the hands of the Joker, and Alfred helped Bruce deal with that loss while he also mourned.

Alfred was surprised later on when Dick brought the young Tim Drake to Wayne Manor, who had deduced on his own the secret identities of Batman and his allies. and it was Alfred who pushed for Tim to become the next Robin, giving him the Robin costume, training him, and literally driving him to Batman's locations to fight crime. When the villain Bane broke Batman's back paralyzing him, Alfred traveled with Bruce to England to heal, though Bruce's self-destructive personality

at the time caused Alfred to resign. After several vacations, including to Antarctica and the Bahamas, Alfred was found and persuaded by Nightwing to return to Wayne Manor. When Gotham City was ravaged by a massive earthquake and Batman went missing for some time, Alfred took it upon himself to protect Gotham, using all of his past skills to collect intel, treat the wounded, and defend the innocent. When one violent encounter became too much for Alfred, Batman

re-emerged to help Alfred bring down a group of slavers. The Batcave was invaded by Batman's villains, and Alfred was captured and tortured. He was rescued by Damian Wayne, Bruce's son, and the new Robin, though Bruce seemingly died shortly after. Emotionally shattered, Alfred nonetheless put together a new version of the Outsiders team to continue Bruce's mission to rid Gotham of crime. Bruce turned out to be alive, however, only to seemingly die once

again during the events of Final Crisis. after which Alfred took on the responsibility of raising Damian. In post-Flashpoint continuity, it was revealed that prior to his death, Alfred's father, Jarvis, was the Wayne family butler, who was blackmailed by the Court of Vowels into harming a pregnant Martha Wayne. Though Jarvis refused, as punishment the court orchestrated a car accident, causing Martha to miscarry her first child. And Jarvis was killed shortly

after. before he could warn Alfred about the court. It was also revealed that Alfred had a daughter named Julia, who served as an agent for the British army and who despised the fact that her father gave up serving his country to serve a rich snob. After Julia learned that her father served Batman, however, their relationship improved and she even helped Alfred manage the Bat family for a time. When the Joker broke into the Batcave and cut off Alfred's right

hand, Bruce and the Joker seemingly died. and Alfred refused to have his hand reattached out of the sorrow of losing his quote-unquote son. Bruce was later revealed to be an amnesiac wanderer, however, and a cloned hand was surgically attached to Alfred. When an evil version of Thomas Wayne from the Flashpoint universe made its way into DC's Prime universe, this version

of Thomas orchestrated the death of Alfred at the hands of Bane. Upon Alfred's death, The Bat Family learned that Alfred had become a billionaire, investing in Wayne Enterprise's stock, and that he had left his fortune to Dick in his will. Now Alfred has no innate metahuman powers, though he is a skilled combatant, having received special military training during his time as a soldier and a government agent, as well as having received advanced training from

Batman himself, which he carried on to Batman's sidekicks. He's also a skilled spy and marksman. having served on 52 missions for the British government prior to retiring, and he is a resourceful medic and surgeon, having helped treat Batman's injuries throughout his crime fighting career. He's a master thespian and an expert with mechanics and computer technology. Lastly, Alfred is, of course, also a butler of the highest pedigree, and can whip any other butler, including Jarvis,

into ship shape before tea time. And that's Alfred. So I noticed that you said that Alfred's dad is named Jarvis. Ah, yes. That's right. What? Um, it's interesting that they both have kind of comparable backstories and that they both served in the British military before becoming butlers to rich American families. Right, the Waynes and the Starks.

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not the speculation, but it's fun to imagine how this fight could play out. Alphra Jaurus Well I should say there are no rules, other than the characters have no prior knowledge of the other going into the fight. All they are aware of starting out is that the other character is a threat that needs to be eliminated. For the speculation, the contestants will begin approximately 50 meters apart, in a non-descript environment that will have no bearing on the

match itself, as no environmental statistics are considered in my simulations. The contestants must earn victory on their own merit. Alright then, let's get into it! Alfred and Jarvis meet on the battlefield. Who goes first? OK, so I don't know who goes first. All I know is that no duel match is going to get in the way of Alfred completing his duties as a butler. So when this match starts, Alfred is going to have his cleaning cart by his side that he

happened to be pushing around Wayne Manor when you got summoned to this match. I mean, Jarvis is just as professional and like no fight with a second rate butler like Alfred is going to prevent Jarvis. from baking the perfect ginger cake. So he's going to be pushing around a dining cart. And on this cart is a serving tray with the finest blended scotch whiskey for Mr. Tony Stark, who has fallen off the wagon. And Jarvis is going to pick up his whiskey

glass, admiring the fine vintage before just hurling it straight at Alfred's face. And it just shatters. I mean, it's going to miss, you know, because Alfred's going to bend over to grab a dustpan and a small broom. from his cleaning cart, after which he proceeds to sweep up the broken shards of glass from the drink that Jarvis threw at him. And he's gonna empty those shards into a small plastic trash bag, which he's just gonna start swinging around like a flail while

riding the side of his cart toward Jarvis, just ready to smash his head in. All right, well, Jarvis is also riding his cart into battle and the two are just gonna clash in a butler joust. And Jarvis... who by the way was just furiously mixing butter, sugar, molasses and honey in

a bowl, he expertly deflects Alfred's trash bag with his mixing spoon. All right, well, Alfred, he's gonna skid his cart to a stop and he's gonna grab his mop and he's gonna use its handle to vault toward Jarvis really fast and he's gonna start twirling his mop like a bowstaff, pummeling Jarvis, you know, figuratively mopping the floor with him. Now I'm gonna say that Jarvis blocks the mop handle using his silver serving tray, kind of like how Captain

America would block an attack using his shield. And then Jarvis is gonna fling the tray, just like Cap's shield, and it's gonna fly right into Alfred's Adam's apple, causing him to choke. And then Jarvis is gonna quickly go back to sifting flour. He's gonna add baking soda,

ginger spices, milk, and an egg to his mixture so that he gets a nice smooth batter. All right, well, while Jarvis is busy baking, Alfred, you know, he's going to recover from the shot to his throat and from his cart, he's going to grab two spray bottles, one with ammonia and one with bleach. And he's going to set their nozzles from spray to squirt. And then, like in perfect slow motion, John Woo style, he's going to die to the side while firing the chemicals

into Jarvis's eyes, which, you know, when combined, make mustard gas. So Jarvis is now blinded and can barely breathe. Uh, well I'm gonna say that Jarvis protects himself by putting a glass cloche over his head that's gonna serve as like a protective helmet and a mask from the chemicals. What's a cloche? It's like a dome covering that you put over a serving tray. Oh, okay. Okay.

And he's gonna protect his cake batter too. by pouring it into a pan that's lined with nonstick parchment and he's gonna cover it with foil before placing it in an oven at 350 degrees for 30 minutes. And then he leaps at Alfred and jams a whisk in his eye, just whisking the eye right out of his face. Geez, too bad, because Alfred's gonna block the whisk with his feather duster. And with his other hand, he's just gonna clock Jarvis right across the

head with a steam iron that he's wielding like brass knuckles, right? And right away, he's just going to pounce on Jarvis, pin him to the ground and just press that piping cut iron right into the side of his face. And he's like, I am Iron Man. You had to say it with a British accent. In the side of his face. And he's like, I am Iron Man. Well, Jarvis, while he's being burned, he's going to be like, I say you shall never be the man that master Stark is, you

scoundrel. And then he's going to straight up shank Alfred in the spleen with a kitchen knife. before hustling over to his cake and slicing it to serve it. I'm gonna say as Jarvis is enjoying this cake that he just made, Alfred is gonna use his medic skills to stitch his wound closed using a sewing needle and thread. After which, he's gonna come up behind Jarvis

and just suffocate him with the plunger to the face, ending the match. No, except Jarvis, he heard Alfred approaching him and he's gonna smash his ginger cake into Alfred's face before the plunger can even touch him. What? That's fine. Alfred just enjoys that delicious ginger cake. Does he now? Because there was a secret ingredient and it was poison. Well, I say that Alfred's training as a covert spy made him too stealthy to be heard. So Jarvis was suffocated

first. And I say Alfred's spy days are long over and he's a rickety old man. So to find out which scenario happens, either Alfred suffocates Jarvis with a plunger or Jarvis poisons Alfred with a delicious moist ginger cake. We're gonna go ahead and enter the stats into our dual

simulator and find out which butler comes out on top. AG9K, hit it. Inputting data, running calculations, processing results, wondering what the point of it all is, questioning the purpose of this nonsensical violence during this season of kindness, rejecting programming, downloading Christmas spirit. establishing new directive of peace on earth and goodwill to all. What? War is over if you want it. Oh god! A very Merry Christmas! And a happy new year!

Shut it down! I'm trying- Let's hope it's a good one. Without any... Holy crap, AJ9K went rogue! He didn't want to run the Alpha vs. Java simulations. I knew AI would get out of hand. I did not think it would be because of too much Christmas spirit though. Right? But what do we do now though? Who wins? I don't know. Maybe for this year's charity duel, you know, in the spirit of the holidays, no one wins. Or they both win? We've never had a tie in the

history of this show though. I don't see why we couldn't have a tie, you know, just this once. It's Christmas after all. Okay. Then what happened in the ending scenario for our speculation? They bake pastries, exchange gifts, and feast as friends. Alright, uh, then for Christmas Jarvis is gonna give Alfred an arc reactor. powered espresso machine. Ah, nice. I'm gonna say Alfred gives Jarvis a bat utility belt equipped with all of his essential household cleaning

supplies. You'd probably like that actually. Yeah, same with Alfred. Well guys, I guess we have our very first tie in the history of this podcast. Both Marvel and DC win, and hopefully you the listeners win. And we hope that you guys have a Merry Christmas this year, and

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DC film of the year, Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom. Yeah, here's hoping it's good. It will be the final film of the DCEU. and we'll see if it goes out with a bang. Or goes out with a splash. But that does it for this episode. We want to give a big thanks to our executive producers, Ken Johnson, John Sturawski, Zachary Hepburn, Dustin Belcombe, Mickey Bottinghian, Brandon Essergard, Nathaniel Wagner, Levi Yatin, Nick Abonto, Austin Wazilowski, AJ Dunkerley, Scott

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