The new core of Apple+ Robodebt payout

The Federal Government has agreed to pay $112 million in compensation for its botched robo-debt welfare recovery scheme. How did it go so wrong? Can Airbnb weather the pandemic? Plus, what happens when one of the world’s most valuable computer companies breaks up with the firm that has made their insides tick along for many years? Guests: Peter Wells, tech writer and host of Meta, a podcast about podcasts @peterwells + Jennifer Dudley-Nicholson, national technology editor for News Corp @jendudley