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Doctrine and Devotion

Joe Thorn & Jimmy Fowlerredcircle.com

Doctrine and Devotion is a weekly podcast exploring Christian faith and practice from an experiential perspective marked by the fun and humor that characterize real friendship.

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Episodes

The 1689 on Good Works (16.3, 4)

The guys are back on the 1689 Confession discussing “good works,” how they stem from the work of the Holy Spirit, yet remain imperfect in this life. To follow along through our discussion of the confession be sure to visit the beautiful website of confessional awesomeness, the1689confession.com. For all the show notes and all links visit www.doctrineanddevotion.com/podcast/16891634

May 20, 201924 min

Mailbag: May 2019

Jimmy and Joe reach into the mailbag to answer a few questions from a couple of our listeners. Should we use or dismiss the writings of Christian leaders who owned slaves? And, how does a young man heading into pastoral ministry connect with a church tradition he is not currently a part of?

May 16, 201924 min

The SBC Deep State

After the #SBCDeepState explosion on Twitter this week, the guys had to drop a bonus episode. What happened on Twitter to make this a point of discussion? Who said what? What is a “deep state”? Is there an SBC Deep State? Put on your tinfoil hats and listen in as Joe and Jimmy get into all of it. You’re welcome. To get all the goods visit www.doctrineanddevotion.com/podcast/deepstate

May 15, 201935 min

The 1689 on Good Works (16.2)

The guys are back on the 1689 and the doctrine of good works in paragraph 2 of chapter 16. Where do good works issue from an d what do they actually accomplish? Plus, Jimmy goes all Marxist on the Doctrine and Devotion Conference. Be sure to check out our website for all the goods! www.doctrineanddevotion.com

May 13, 201930 min

Lament and Annoyance

Here’s a short, live recording of Doctrine and Devotion from our 2019 Conference on Biblical Theology. Joe and Jimmy step into an online debate about the lack of “lament” among Christians and the A.C.T.S. model of prayer. Do the guys use the ACTS model? Is lament a part of that approach to prayer? Plus, the guys walk through ACTS to share more of their thoughts on prayer.

May 09, 201915 min

The 1689 on Good Works (16.1)

The guys are beat after the 2019 Doctrine and Devotion Conference on Biblical Theology, so they offer up a short episode just introducing the subject of “good works.” Be sure to check out Dr. James Hamilton’s sermon on John 3 preached at Redeemer Fellowship on May 5th. Plus, here’s a few photos from the conference. For all the links, show notes and photos visit www.doctrineanddevotion.com/podcast/1689161

May 06, 201918 min

Liturgy

Today Joe and Jimmy talk about liturgy. What is liturgy? What kind do the guys like? And what is the liturgy like at Redeemer Fellowship? The guys walk through each part of Redeemer’s service and explain the meaning and various elements. For all the show notes and links check out www.doctrineanddevotion.com/podcast/liturgy

May 02, 201933 min

The 1689 on Repentance (Part 2)

Joe and Jimmy wrap up chapter 15 of the 1689 Confession and discuss the evidence of repentance of those converted later in life, backsliding, and persevering faith.

Apr 29, 201926 min

A Calvinist's Conundrum

Joe and Jimmy are back, and explain why, for the first time in almost 3 years, the missed releasing an episode on Monday. Then they get into a listener’s question who is looking for feedback. As a Calvinist in a non-Calvinist church, should this staff member stay quiet about his theology, speak up, or move on? Plus, what are the theological disagreements and differences of opinions that are common at Redeemer Fellowship? How do all these people actually get along? Want all the links and show not...

Apr 25, 201927 min

Assimilation

The guys are back, and this time they’re talking about “assimilation.” We know some of our Reformed friends push back on the concept of assimilation, or at least think it’s an overstated need. But Joe and jimmy think it matters for church health. Joe defines assimilation as “the process of becoming a healthy part of a local church.” How is assimilation related to the mission of the church? What does it mean for assimilation to be a structural aspect of disciple-making in the church? And what are...

Apr 18, 201935 min

The 1689 on Repentance (Part 1)

Joe and Jimmy jump into the doctrine of repentance from the 1689 Confession Chapter 15. But the guys jump straight to paragraph 3 in order to first explore the nature of repentance. Is repentance a duty or a gift? what is a proper and full definition of repentance? And what’s the difference between “legal” and “evangelical” repentance? Want to dig deep? Check out Thomas Watson’s Doctrine of Repentance. For all the links and show notes visit www.doctrineanddevotion.com/podcast/1689153...

Apr 15, 201943 min

Pastors, Money, and Influence

Joe and Jimmy talk about pastors, money, and influence in light of the ongoing James MacDonald and Harvest Bible Chapel scandal. Before they get into it all they attempt to give some context and offer an apology. In this episode the guys consider how pastors have access to money in the church, and ask, “What principles should govern a minister’s access to and use of church funds?” What about the practice of giving gifts to others or benevolence? Aside from professional and company policies, how ...

Apr 11, 201940 min

The 1689 on Faith (14.3)

Joe and Jimmy wrap up Chapter 14 of the 1689 and talk about the varying degrees of saving faith. Plus, Jimmy’s back from vacation and Joe made a mess on Twitter. For all the links and show notes visit www.doctrineanddevotion.com/podcast/1689143

Apr 08, 201925 min

Easter Bunnies and Helicopters

Jimmy and Joe answer a listener’s email about Easter Eggs dropped from helicopters and gimmicks that seek to draw people to the church. When does an after-church activity make the guys feel uncomfortable? When are biblical principles violated? And why is it important to be careful with "church money?" Listen in as the guys get into it. Plus, Joe sings and Jimmy drinks water. For all the links, photos, and show notes visit www.doctrineanddevotion.com/podcast/helicopters

Apr 04, 201940 min

The 1689 on Faith (14.2)

Joe and Jimmy are back talking about the doctrine of faith from the 1689 Confession, chapter 14, paragraph 2. In this episode the guys unpack how saving faith believes the Bible, values the Bible, obeys the Bible, and trusts in the Christ of the Bible. For all the links and show notes visit www.doctrineanddevotion.com/podcast/1689142

Apr 01, 201931 min

Big Church vs Small Church

Joe and Jimmy sit down to talk about the pros and cons of big church and small church. You know they like small church, but there are some things that big churches can do that small churches can’t. At the same time, there are aspects of small church that you won’t experience in big church. For all the links and show notes visit www.redeemerfellowship.org/podcast/bigvsmall

Mar 28, 201933 min

The 1689 on Faith (14.1)

Jimmy and Joe are all over the 1689 Confession, Chapter 14, paragraph 1, talking about saving faith. If saving faith is our trust in Jesus, how is it a grace of God? How is faith normally “wrought” in an individual, and how can we strengthen our faith? For all the links and show notes visit www.doctrineanddevotion.com/podcast/1689141

Mar 25, 201931 min

Gospel Centered Churches

Joe and Jimmy sit down to talk about gospel-centrality and what constitutes a gospel-centered church. What is the gospel and gospel-centrality? Is this at odds with a Christ-centered ministry? What is a gospel-centered church and how is it different from an issue driven church? Want to go deeper? Be sure to pick up Jared Wilson’s new book, The Gospel-Driven Church. For all the links and show notes visit www.doctrineanddevotion.com/podcast/gospel-centered

Mar 21, 201926 min

The 1689 on Sanctification (13.2, 3)

Today the guys are back talking about the doctrine of Sanctification as they work through the 1689 Confession, Chapter 13, paragraphs 2 and 3. If sanctification is incomplete in this life, is our sanctification guaranteed? How does the fight for our sanctification relate to spiritual warfare? And what does sanctification look like practically in a believer’s life? For all the links and show notes visit www.doctrineanddevotion.com/podcast/16891323

Mar 18, 201936 min

Talking Tribalism, Idealism, and Unity

The guys were having an “off air” conversation about something that happened at the recent Shepherd’s Conference, but decided to stop, turn on the mics, and then continue the conversation. It’s really a free-form chat about tribalism, idealism, and unity in the church. For links and show notes visit www.doctrineanddevotion.com/podcast/tribalism

Mar 14, 201927 min

The 1689 on Sanctification (13.1)

Joe and Jimmy crack open the 1689 Confession, Chapter 13, on Sanctification and talk through a proper definition, how God sanctifies, and what our role is in this life changing work. Recommended Reading Holiness by JC Ryle Systematic Theology by Louis Berkhof For all the links and show notes visit www.doctrineanddevotion.com/podcast/1689131

Mar 11, 201929 min

The John Bunyan Story

Joe and Jimmy take some time to introduce you to John Bunyan, the baptist puritan who became a gifted preacher and the most famous and best selling author in England. You have probably heard of, and maybe even read his classic, The Pilgrim’s Progress. But Bunyan’s story is one of dramatic conversion, righteous suffering, and faithful ministry. Recommended Reading The Works of John Bunyan (3 Volumes) Prayer The Pilgrim’s Progress Grace Abounding to the Chief of Sinners John Bunyan and the Grace o...

Mar 07, 201931 min

The 1689 on Adoption

Joe and Jimmy are talking about the doctrine of Adoption from The 1689 Confession, Chapter 12. In his classic work, Knowing God, J.I. Packer wrote, “If you want to judge how well a person understands Christianity, find out how much he makes of the thought of being God’s child, and having God as his Father. If this is not the thought that prompts and controls his worship and prayers and whole outlook on life, it means that he does not understand Christianity very well at all.” Why is the doctrine...

Mar 04, 201937 min

A Healthy Church and Her Scars

The guys sit down and wind up talking about why a healthy church isn’t afraid to reveal its scars. What helps a church begin to be honest in confessing sins to one another and sharing their burdens? Why do some leaders avoid honesty and transparency? For all the links and show notes visit www.doctrineanddevotion.com/podcast/scars

Feb 28, 201935 min

The 1689 on Justification (11.5, 6)

The guys are back wrapping up chapter 11 from the 1689 Confession on Justification. From the ongoing forgiveness of sins, the secure state of the justified, the potential to fall under God’s “fatherly displeasure," and justification in the Old Testament the guys love talking sola fide! Plus, there’s a debate on which characters from the TV show, 24, best represent Joe and Jimmy. #24docanddevo For all the relevant links and show notes visit www.doctrineanddevotion.com/podcast/16891156...

Feb 25, 201922 min

The James MacDonald Story

The big news in evangelicalism as of late has been the controversy surrounding James MacDonald and the church he planted, Harvest Bible Chapel. There have been numerous accusations from former elders, past and current members, and even a popular radio personality. It’s been covered by both secular and Christian media outlets and the local news has been reporting on the drama as it continued to unfold. James was recently fired by the elders of Harvest Bible Chapel, and other leadership is now res...

Feb 21, 201947 min

The 1689 on Justification (11.3, 4)

The guys are back talking about the doctrine of justification from the 1689 Confession, Chapter 11, paragraphs 3 and 4. What is Jesus’ “active and passive righteousness”? Why is the doctrine of propitiation important ot justification? Was the cross necessary for salvation? And what are the past and present aspects of our justification? Plus, Joe hates his afternoon, and Jimmy hates the color of his house. For all the links and show notes visit www.doctrineanddevotion.com/podcast/16891134...

Feb 18, 201929 min

The SBC and Sexual Abuse

Today’s episode covers a sensitive subject and may not be suitable for all audiences. The recently published Houston Chronicle article, Abuse of Faith: 20 Years and 700 Victims details a painful and prevalent problem in the Southern Baptist Convention related to sexual abuse and cover up in many of our local churches. Jimmy and Joe talk through the article and the related issues. RELATED CONTENT The Reality of Sexual Abuse Hits Home: What Happened? What Do We Do Now? by Al Mohler Grieved beyond ...

Feb 14, 201959 min

The 1689 on Justification (11.1, 2)

Jimmy and Joe are all over the “cardinal doctrine” of the Christian faith, the doctrine and Justification from Chapter 11, paragraphs 1 and 2, from the 1689 Confession. What does it mean to be justified? If we are justified by faith alone, why do we say that the faith that justifies never stands alone? For all the links and show notes visit www.doctrineanddevotion.com/podcast/16891112

Feb 11, 201932 min

Complaining Calvinists

Joe and Jimmy take a listen to Pastor Brian Davis’s sermon, What Your Grumbling Says About God, to address the issue of complaining. It was a good word to people like us to often fall into the sin of grumbling, but a number of Twitter users offered a lot of negative pushback against a quote from the sermon that was shared by TGC. The guys explore the concept of complaining in Scripture and offer a more nuanced perspective. Is it always wrong to complain? What would a righteous complaint look lik...

Feb 07, 201933 min
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