Ep. 285- 4️⃣ Subject Line Tests you have NEVER TRIED!🥣WORST Show on TV!+ Octomom, Gypsy Rose| Jay’s SCOOP - podcast episode cover

Ep. 285- 4️⃣ Subject Line Tests you have NEVER TRIED!🥣WORST Show on TV!+ Octomom, Gypsy Rose| Jay’s SCOOP

Mar 07, 202511 min
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In this episode of Do This, Not That, host Jay Schwedelson reveals quick, impactful tips for creating irresistible email subject lines—plus shares his latest TV show critiques and must-watch recommendations.

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Best Moments:
(00:40) Introduction to subject line tactics
(01:37) Using hours instead of days in subject lines
(02:14) Incorporating future dates in subject lines
(03:22) Effective reminder strategies without using the word “reminder”
(04:20) Starting subject lines with numbers, especially odd numbers
(05:22) Using odd numbers with decimals in subject lines
(06:11) Promotion of Marigold’s consumer trends report
(07:11) Jay’s TV recommendations and critiques
(10:02) Announcement of the upcoming Eventastic event

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Transcript

[00:00:09] Podcast Introduction
[00:00:09] Jay Schwedelson:  Welcome to Do This, Not That, the podcast for marketers. Marketers. You'll walk away from each episode with actionable tips you can test immediately. You'll hear from the best minds in marketing who will share tactics, quick wins, and pitfalls to avoid. We'll also dig into life, pop culture, and the chaos that is our everyday.

[00:00:31] Importance of Subject Lines in Marketing
[00:00:31] Jay Schwedelson:  I'm Jay Schwedelson. Let's Do This, Not That. WEEK are back for Do This, Not That podcast presented by Marigold, and And I wanna talk about subject lines. There are new things that you can test in your subject line that are moving the dial and you know What’s? Everyone's like, what?

[00:01:23] Effective Subject Line Strategies
[00:00:52] Jay Schwedelson:  No, come on. That's irrelevant. Can we talk about something big? And here's the thing. This is big. Why is it big? Because it's one of those things in marketing where there's not that many of them that takes three seconds to do, costs you nothing, doesn't matter how sophisticated or not sophisticated you are, and it could be a game changer. It can significantly change the number of people that are interacting with your information, your offers, business offers, consumer offers. It doesn't matter. And so, I love subject lines because so often WEEK focus on what's inside the email. But if we don't get the email open, who actually cares what's in the email? So So I wanna rip through some subject line tests that you have never tried. So let's jump right into it. So the first one is hours versus days. What that means is that if you actually use hours in your subject line versus days, you get a 24% increase in open rates on average.

[00:03:11] Creative Subject Line Techniques
[00:01:45] Jay Schwedelson:  So for example, instead of saying two days left in your offer, whatever your offer is, consumer or business, you say forty eight hours left. Forty eight hours to us is a shorter period of time even though it's not. Days seem longer. Hours seem shorter. So if you even tested this head to head, super easy test, and hours almost always and everything that we've seen and all THIS data is from subjectline.com, hours almost always beats days. Okay. And by the way, as it relates to days and dates, never just put today's date in the subject line. Like, it is, you know, April 8, What’s, and this is our seventh edition of our newsletter. Don't do that. That is weird. That is legacy. That is old. Don't do that. Alright. But I'll give you a date thing that does really, really well, and that is future dates. Future dates in your subject line are lifting open rates by over 15% as compared to regular subject lines. What do I mean by future dates? If you have something that you're announcing a big sale, a new piece of content, an event, I don't care what it is. Okay. Leading into that, you can say, you know, April 8, something big is happening Dot. You start to build up that excitement. What's it going to be? Maybe it's going to be your keynote. Maybe it's your biggest sale of the year. Maybe it's a new product drop and you can do this a Up of times leading into it. But future date in the subject line is awesome. Another one with dates that does really, really well that I don't think people are doing enough is for reminder stuff. So let's say people have signed up for a webinar. Okay? What do you all do?

[00:05:57] Marigold's Consumer Trends Report
[00:03:27] Jay Schwedelson:  You put out their emails that say things like reminder, blah blah blah is coming soon. Wow. Being reminded of things is the actual worst. It's annoying. Nobody wants to be reminded of anything. So how can you tell somebody and remind them without actually saying reminder? So if you say things like this, you're on the list for April 8. Right? And then you put maybe a check mark emoji. When you say you're on the list for April 8 with an exclamation mark, it feels official. It feels a little exciting. It feels like you're on the inside, and it's not like you look at that subject line like, oh, yeah. This is awesome. No. But in your subconscious, it makes you feel a little bit good. So what is wrong with that? And then this one is totally bonkers, weird, bizarre, whatever, but we've been messing around with it, and I kinda love it. So you may or may not know this, but starting a subject line, and this is not the bonkers ANYTHING. Starting a subject line with a number of any kind will actually lift the percentage of people opening up your email. So, you know, the three pitfalls to avoid, the four hottest fashion trends, an actual number as the first character of your subject line. Because as people are doing that social scroll in their inbox, okay, that number stands out just a little bit, and it gets them to pause. It feels definitive. It feels like you're an authority. They know exactly what they're gonna get out of it. So if you're not incorporating starting your subject lines with a number, business or consumer marketing, you are you you're missing the boat. But this one's really random. I love this though. It is and by the way, when you start with a number or use a number at all in your marketing, you want it to be oddly an odd number. So if you were to say something like, you know, the 10 things you need to know versus saying the 11 things you need to know, For some reason, odd numbers outperform even numbers on anything in marketing. It's the strangest thing. It feels more real. It doesn't it feels less generic. That's that's my take, but it always is the case. But this is super random. When you take an odd number plus a decimal, it does really, really well. So for example, if you had something like this, the 11.5 growth hacks that WEEK, and you actually write the number 11.5 growth hacks that work. And when you put in that decimal, okay, with that, you know, point five, we're seeing it lift open rates an extra boost because it's so odd. It it's causing that curiosity, and it's so rare to be seen. So this idea of odd number plus decimal at the start of your subject line is kind of a fun, crazy test to try, and that's what I'm all about. Something different. We gotta stand out. We gotta make our emails open and not everybody else's. Alright. Before we get to since you didn't ask, which is the totally ridiculous portion of this podcast, I wanted to let you know THIS podcast is exclusively, rep ANYTHING. It's exclusively presented by Marigold.

[00:07:00] Television Show Commentary
[00:06:13] Jay Schwedelson:  Why Can't I Speak? Exclusively presented by Marigold. Now Marigold's a great email sending platform. It is. I use it. I send out billions of emails for my agency, business, consumer, small, medium, large brands, doesn't matter. It's awesome. But they have a piece of content that I have just been reading over and over and over again because it's amazing. It is their consumer trends report. It just came out. They surveyed 21,700 people asking about their feelings about different brands, their loyalty, segmentation. Would they spend more on products based on different loyalty factors? All this stuff, and you can get it. It's ungated and it's free to access. All you gotta do is go to meetmarigold.com/cti. So that's meetmarigold.com/cti. This thing is wild. It's free. It's ungated. Check it out.

[00:09:59] Upcoming Eventastic Event Promotion
[00:07:06] Jay Schwedelson:  I love this thing. Alright. Let's get into since you didn't Ask. Always so ridiculous. So of course, I wanna share the nonsense TV that I'm ANYTHING, reading. I'm not reading TV. The nonsense TV I'm watching and ANYTHING that I'm looking forward to. Alright. So I just gave, this show a try, and it couldn't be worse. It is With Love, Meghan. This is Meghan Markle's new show. It's on Netflix, and I don't care what anybody thinks about Meghan Markle. That's irrelevant to me. But this new show, it popped up there. I'm like, oh, I'm gonna give it a try. Okay? And it's where Meghan Markle, like, invites famous friends over, and they they do, like, cooking and stuff and gardening and kinda get the vibe where she's trying to be like Martha Stewart, and it's just not coming together. It's not. She should go back to being on Suits. That was great. Okay? This whole idea where she is now, like THIS pioneer woman or What’s, it's I couldn't get through it. It it was it was unwatchable. It was just unwatchable. So that's the new Meghan Markle show. And, hey, listen. She she seems like a fine person. Whatever. The next one that I'm looking forward to that's coming out in a few Jay, this is gonna be great, is I was Octomom, the Natalie Suleiman story. Now maybe some of you don't remember Octomom, but Octomom is the one who Up up having 14 kids, and she was like this tabloid sensation because he had eight kids at once. It was wild. I've not thought about Octomom, not that I ever really thought about Octomom, but I haven't thought about Octomom in a while. So now we get to check-in on her life. What is going on? We need the update on these 14 human beings. I'm very into that. We had American Idol. I still like American Idol. I like Harry Underwood. I like Lionel Richie. Ryan Seacrest does not bother me except if he ever says Seacrest out, that's embarrassing. So I like American Idol. See, the reason American Idol is better than The Voice, when people go on American Idol, they actually become famous. There's a lot of stars that came out of American Idol. You cannot find me somebody that went on The Voice. I don't care what you say THIS became a Us star. You can't. And that's why The Voice is a joke in my opinion. ANYTHING, and then next week, another one, this is the most random podcast ever. Another one that I'm looking forward to is Gypsy Rose Life After Lock Up. Come on. You're excited. So Gypsy Rose, do you remember that show called The Act where it was based on the true story of Gypsy Rose where she was, like, tortured by her mom and then Gypsy Rose and the boyfriend killed THIS mom, which is terrible, but the mom was a horrendous person. Well, now, you know, she's a free woman. I think she got married, a boyfriend. I don't know. I haven't kept up with Gypsy Rose, but I'm gonna be all in on Gypsy Rose life after lockup. Listen. I don't know how many marketing podcasts talk about life after lockup for Gypsy Rose, the Octomom story. I mean, you really get quality content here. That's a fact. I appreciate you being here. Listen, we are running out of spots of our giant new free event. It is called Eventastic. It is the world's largest event about events.

[00:10:36] Podcast Closing Remarks
[00:10:09] Jay Schwedelson:  If you care about public speaking, small events, webinars, in person events, you name it, It's gonna be bonkers. Who's speaking there? Andy Cohen's gonna be there from Bravo, Amy Porterfield, Anne Hanley, all these big brands. You gotta be there. We're running out of spots. It's free. It's virtual, eventastic.com. I hope you check it out. You are awesome, and you better watch all of those shows because that would mean that you have horrible taste just like me. Later. You did it. You made it to the end. Nice. But the party's not over. Subscribe to make sure you get the latest episode each week for more actionable tips and a little chaos from today's top marketer. And hook us up with a five star review if this wasn't the worst podcast of all time. Lastly, if you want access to the best virtual marketing events that are also 100% free, visit guruevents.com so you can hear from the world's top marketers like Daymond John, Martha Stewart, and me.guruevents.com. Check it out.




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