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Design Systems Podcast

Design Systems Podcast interviews industry leaders and product makers to share best practices and explore the areas where design and development come together.
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104. Shawn Cheris from Adobe: Spectrum 2 Design System and AI’s Role in the Future of Design

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Chris and Shawn explore how design tools shape final products, emphasizing the crucial role of managing elements like forms and tables. Shawn shares insights on uniting Adobe departments for greater cohesion and how Spectrum 2 reflects organizational change. They discuss AI integration in design interfaces, drawing parallels with Apple's iPhone design evolution, highlighting AI's potential to revolutionize user experiences. Hear about intricacies of trans...

Mar 12, 202446 min

103. Nate Baldwin from Intuit: Multi-Brand Theming in Complex Organizations

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. In this episode of the Design Systems Podcast, we explore the intricate world of theme management in complex design systems at Intuit. Nate Baldwin, Principal Designer at Intuit, shares a revolutionary framework for design tokens, enhancing governance and accessibility. We learn about Figma's role in color swapping and Intuit's theming engine for granular adjustments. Discover the balance between brand integrity and user personalization, and how tools lik...

Mar 07, 202435 min

102. David Müller: Intentional Breakpoints and AI Insights

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. In this episode of the Design Systems Podcast, we invite you to join us as we engage in a conversation with David Müller, a product designer and design systems lead at one of the world’s top financial institutions. Together, we dive deep into the intricate landscape of banking systems, exploring the complexities of equipping problem solvers with the necessary tools. Gain insights into the importance of flexibility over a rigid "super component" and the si...

Feb 29, 202430 min

101. PJ Onori of Pinterest/Disney: Design Systems Shifting the Productivity Paradigm

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. PJ Onori, a design systems veteran since 2011 and a driving force behind Pinterest's Gestalt system, talks about the transformative impact of design systems on product development, potentially reshaping the job landscape in design and engineering. In this episode, PJ recounts a pivotal experience at Disney, highlighting the delicate balance between productivity gains and workforce dynamics.We explore the benefits and hurdles of design systems, emphasizing...

Feb 20, 202439 min

100. Brian Dorsey on Design and Engineering Synergy at Mastercard

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Join us for a milestone episode of The Design Systems Podcast, featuring Brian Dorsey, a key contributor to Mastercard's groundbreaking design system MADE. Explore how integrating designers into infrastructure teams has revolutionized collaboration. Discover how Mastercard leverages its design system to drive business forward with insights on accessibility, performance, and themability. Learn about per-component versioning and system-level versioning and ...

Feb 13, 202430 min

99. Jackie Lai, Lead UX Designer at OPIS Dow Jones, on Creating Future-Proof Systems

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. On this episode of DSP, we welcome guest Jackie Lai, a lead UX designer at OPIS, a Dow Jones company, with a rich background in interactive and product design. Explore Jackie's diverse design journey from web to physical products and the transformation of design tools. Discover the importance of cross-functional collaboration and the perpetual evolution of design systems. Jackie shares insights on balancing uniformity and flexibility, creating adaptable s...

Feb 07, 202430 min

98. Exploring Alexandrian Patterns in Design Systems with Kevin Muldoon at Dow Jones

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. In this episode of The Design Systems Podcast, we’re joined by guest Kevin Muldoon, Lead Design Technologist/Design Systems at Dow Jones, to discuss the concepts of alexandrian patterns and their application in design systems. We explore the idea of themes as reusable objects to solve specific design problems, discussing the challenges and potential solutions in creating composable and scalable design systems. The conversation dives deep into the evolutio...

Jan 30, 202429 min

97. Curt Schreiber, CCO at VSA, on Building Global Design Systems for Scale

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Curt Schreiber, Chief Creative Officer at VSA Partners, joins us for a compelling conversation on the multifaceted nature of design systems. We explore how these intricate frameworks must cater to a diverse array of users and stakeholders, highlighting the need for design systems to personify the organization's character. Curt shares his insights on maintaining design systems that are not only comprehensive and scalable but also flexibly attuned to the gl...

Jan 23, 202437 min

96. Jina Anne and Adekunle Oduye: Navigating Career Pathways in Design Systems

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Jina Anne and Adekunle Oduye join host Chris Strahl in a candid conversation that explores career pathways within the evolving realm of design systems amidst the latest market conditions. They share valuable insights on how the key to thriving in uncertain times is through understanding the nuanced dance between business language and design practice. Jina, renowned for her pioneering efforts in design tokens at Salesforce, illustrates the importance of sc...

Jan 16, 202445 min

95. Matt Weinberg, Sr. Product Designer at Angi: Empathy-First Approach to Evolving Design Systems

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. In this episode of the Design Systems Podcast, we discuss the evolution of design systems with special guest Matt Weinberg, Senior Product Designer at Angi. Matt has a passion for empathy-driven design solutions and shares his unconventional career path that led him to tackle the challenge of refining and improving the design systems at Angi. He reveals how he approached the initial state of the design system, identified user needs, and implemented increm...

Jan 02, 202425 min

94. Josh Clark, Founder of Big Medium: Scaling Digital Strategy Within Complex Organizations

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Josh Clark and Chris Strahl dive into an in-depth discussion about navigating the digital landscape amidst economic unpredictability. They discuss the intricacies of building and maintaining design systems in large organizations, addressing the challenges of scaling, and emphasizing the strategic value of digital investments. Josh, an advocate for design systems as capital expenditure, shares his expertise on how these systems contribute to product develo...

Dec 19, 202342 minEp. 94

93. Nathan Curtis, Co-founder of EightShapes: Balancing reuse and customization in UI Design

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Chris Strahl sits with Nathan Curtis as he explores the delicate balance between reusing existing components and creating customized solutions in UI design. They unpack the complexities of design systems, touching on everything from color selection to ensuring functional and aesthetic harmony, providing insights on principled design choices in a world where reuse and customization are equally important. View the transcript of this episode here . Check out...

Dec 13, 202338 minEp. 93

92. Lisa Apers Independent Designer and Researcher: Tailoring UIs with brainwaves for personalized user experiences

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Join Chris Strahl as he sits with Lisa Apers, a visionary in UI design, as she presents her innovative research on brainwave-responsive user interfaces. Explore how EEG sensors integrated into UIs can revolutionize our digital experiences, creating interfaces that dynamically adapt to individual cognitive states and daily activities. View the transcript of this episode here . Check out our upcoming events here . Guest I’m an independent designer and resea...

Nov 30, 202327 minEp. 92

91. Designing diversity: Crafting tiered systems for a global market with Tim Banker at Slalom Consulting

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Join Chris Strahl and Tim Banker on an exciting dive into the world of innovative design systems. They explore the creation of tailored solutions for a diverse range of global markets, showcasing how a 'system of systems' approach can meet various needs, from marketing to transactional experiences. Get ready to transcend the one-size-fits-all model and redefine design flexibility. View the transcript of this episode here . Register here for our upcoming w...

Nov 16, 202331 minEp. 91

90. The innovation triad: Needs, coverage and adoption with Alex Wilson and Jon Reidy at T. Rowe Price

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Join Chris Strahl as he sits with Alex Wilson and Jon Reidy as they discuss their approach to evolving with community demands at T. Rowe Price. Dive into the dynamic process of identifying what drives your customers, crafting solutions that resonate, and ensuring widespread adoption of these innovations. View the transcript of this episode here . Register here for our upcoming webinar, ‘Design System Roadmap & Strategy for the Enterprise’ on November ...

Nov 09, 202333 minEp. 90

89. Metrics matter: Harnessing usage data for adoption, coverage, efficiency, and quality with Maya Hampton at REI

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Join Chris Strahl and Maya Hampton as they unpack the power of usage data and its pivotal role in driving adoption, efficiency, and quality. Dive deep, discover the real value of design systems, and see how every component counts! View the transcript of this episode here . Register here for our upcoming webinar, ‘Design System Roadmap & Strategy for the Enterprise’ on November 29th. Guest Maya is the Senior Digital Product Manager for Design Systems a...

Nov 01, 202330 minEp. 89

88. Beyond isolation: Harmonizing products in a design ecosystem with JJ Rogers at Watermark

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Join Chris Strahl and JJ Rogers, as they explore the challenges and triumphs of harmonizing diverse products at Watermark, highlighting how a harmonized ecosystem elevates user experience and ensures consistent design across all platforms. View the transcript of this episode here . Check out our upcoming events here . Guest JJ Rogers serves as Director of Product Design at Watermark, a software provider helping institutions engage educators and learners t...

Oct 26, 202328 minEp. 88

87. Designing success: Crafting principles for passkey adoption with Kevin Goldman and Sierre Wolfkostin at FIDO Alliance

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Join Chris Strahl, Kevin Goldman, and Sierre Wolfkostin as they sit down to explore the Fido Alliance's mission of revolutionizing online authentication by eliminating traditional passwords and replacing them with secure and user-friendly passkeys. Discover how these principles, tested and proven, are set to transform user experiences and incentivize the widespread use of passkeys, offering a glimpse into the future of design systems. View the transcript ...

Oct 18, 202335 min

86. From consistency to contribution: How design systems grow trees with Jay Smith at REI

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Chris Strahl sits with Jay Smith as they unravel the secrets of REI's design system consistency. Uncover how their groundbreaking approach to design, colors, and tokens is reshaping standards. With an eco-friendly twist: for every contribution to the system, trees are planted. As the system grows, so does a forest. View the transcript of this episode here . Register here for our upcoming webinar, ‘What Really Matters in Design Systems’ on October 25th. Gu...

Oct 04, 202335 minEp. 86

85. Driving speed and consistency: The power of design systems in startups with Jamie Totten at Klue

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Chris Strahl sits with Jamie Totten from Klue and they unpack the unique challenges and benefits of implementing a design system in a fast-paced startup. Drawing inspiration from Spotify's "guild format", they emphasize the importance of voluntary commitment, maintaining positivity and on making the most with limited resources. View the transcript of this episode here . Register here for our upcoming webinar, ‘What Really Matters in Design Systems’ on Oct...

Sep 27, 202330 minEp. 85

84. Digital typography: Suggesting, not dictating with Juli Sombat at Spotify and Jason Pamental at Chewy

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Chris Strahl sits with Juli Sombat from Spotify and Jason Pamental from Chewy as they unravel the evolution of digital typography, emphasizing the shift from dictation to suggestion. They explore the dynamic between designers and users and the transformative power of user customization. View the transcript of this episode here . Register here for our upcoming webinar, ‘What Really Matters in Design Systems’ on October 25th. Guests Juli Sombat is the desig...

Sep 21, 202340 minEp. 84

83. Breaking silos and enhancing teamwork in design systems with Tony Pantello and Chris Henke at Accutech

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Chris Strahl sits with Tony Pantello and Chris Henke who tackle the age-old conflict between design and development. They discuss harnessing the power of design systems to streamline collaboration, conquer inefficiency, and unlock the true potential of their teams. View the transcript of this episode here . Register here for our upcoming webinar, ‘What Really Matters in Design Systems’ on October 25th. Guest Tony Pantello is a Senior UI/UX Designer and Pr...

Sep 13, 202335 minEp. 83

82. Design system revamp: Unpacking Monster's UX odyssey with Billea Breen

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Chris Strahl and Billea Breen explore the essential interaction between design and development to craft a flawless user experience, offering tactics to maintain consistency and enhance workflows. View the transcript of this episode here . Register here for our upcoming webinar, ‘What Really Matters in Design Systems’ on October 25th. Guest Meet Billea, the Senior UX Designer at Monster who weaves tech magic into seamless user experiences. With a knack for...

Sep 06, 202331 minEp. 82

81. Embracing change with Mark Reynolds, Design System Consultant: How design and engineering roles are evolving in design systems

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Chris Strahl and Mark Reynolyds navigate the ever-changing world of design systems, exploring the idea that design and engineering roles will become more aligned in the near future. View the transcript of this episode here . Register here for our upcoming webinar, ‘Theming in Complex Ecosystems’ with Donnie D’Amato on August 30th. Guest Mark Reynolds is a design systems expert who works with enterprise organisations to set up successful design system prac...

Aug 30, 202337 minEp. 80

80. Bridging Code & Creativity with Kevin Broich at Cisco

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Chris Strahl talks with Kevin Broich about his transition from backend developer to designer at Cisco. Kevin shares insights on creating a crucial CSS-based UI kit for Cisco's major rebranding phase and more. View the transcript of this episode here . Register here for our upcoming webinar, ‘Theming in Complex Ecosystems’ with Donnie D’Amato on August 30th. Guest Kevin Broich, Design Systems advocate. Experienced front-end architect, developer, designer a...

Aug 22, 202339 minEp. 80

79. Inside Pinterest's Gestalt System with Product Designers, Kate Halvorsen and Cintia Romero: A community-centric approach

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Chris Strahl chats with Kate and Cinita on Pinterest's design system, Gestalt. Learn how their team built a system prioritizing documentation, inclusivity and accessibility. A space designed to ensure global and remote activity, encouraging users to easily contribute and communicate effectively. View the transcript of this episode here . Register here for our upcoming webinar, ‘Theming in Complex Ecosystems’ with Donnie D’Amato on August 30th. Guests Kate...

Aug 15, 202343 minEp. 79

78. Bridging the design-code gap at Meta, a multidisciplinary approach with Sriram Ramasubramanian

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Join Chris Strahl as he sits down with Sriram Ramasubramanian from Meta to discuss the intricacies of designing at scale. Dive deep into the world of design systems, Figma plugins, design tokens, and the challenges of interoperability across multiple platforms. View the transcript of this episode here . Register here for our upcoming webinar, ‘Theming in Complex Ecosystems’ with Donnie D’Amato on August 30th. Guest Sriram Ramasubramanian is a Senior Engin...

Aug 08, 202328 minEp. 78

77. Robin Cannon, Executive Director and Head of Design System at J.P. Morgan: Creating an environment that encourages and builds trust with design systems

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Chris and Robin discuss creating an environment and ecosystem where people are excited to use design systems; and the importance these systems have when encouraging trust and accountability to assist teams with their work. View the transcript of this episode here . Register here for our upcoming webinar, ‘Theming in Complex Ecosystems’ with Donnie D’Amato on August 30th. Guest Robin Cannon is Executive Director and Head of Design System at J.P. Morgan. He...

Jul 31, 202344 minEp. 77

76. Christophe Coutzoukis Design System Lead: Building Thriving Design System Communities

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Christophe and Chris discuss the art of building thriving design system communities. They share their profound insights and experiences, offering valuable perspectives on fostering vibrant and inclusive communities that flourish with creativity and collaboration. View the transcript of this episode here . Register here for our upcoming webinar, ‘Introducing Knapsack V4: A Powerful Update for a Future-Ready Experience,’ July 26th at 1 pm (ET) and 10 am (PT...

Jul 24, 202336 minEp. 76

75. Adam Sedwick Senior Product Manager: Harnessing the power of design systems to unify your team

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Adam and Chris discuss the power of design systems and their ability to break down barriers between designers and developers. View the transcript of this episode here . Register here for our upcoming webinar, ‘Introducing Knapsack V4: A Powerful Update for a Future-Ready Experience,’ July 26th at 1 pm (ET) and 10 am (PT). Guest Adam Sedwick is a senior product manager with a 10 year background in design and development focused on modular design and design...

Jul 12, 202336 min
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