125. Finding Genuine Motivation for Lasting Change

On this week's episode . It's more of the people that don't believe I can lose the weight .

There you go , the doubters , the doubters , yeah .

I want to prove it that I can and I will .

If you're doing something out of proving somebody wrong , it's not a sustainable plan . Two wrongs don't make a right , bro .

Oh shit , I might have to contradict that , okay .

Talk to us , harris . Let's say you're gonna be skinny , right . What's gonna happen to those traumas and those things you choose to that you believe about yourself ? That's a really good question . What you think , this is , oh shit . All right , mike , what'd you say ? Yo , yo , I said what's up ? I thought Joey Bass is bringing that fancy model .

I know , bro , I can't believe you wore those , bro I had to get dressed up .

you know , I seen her Insta . I was like yo shit , I gotta , you know , clean up .

Yo Joe Fresh cut If you're listening , man . Where's that supermod ? Good yeah All right guys . Well , today we have a special guest . His name is Harris . What's going on ? Yeah , thank you for joining us , harris .

Go ahead . Sure , learning thing or two . You want me to introduce it ? Go ahead . Well , when you asked me to introduce it , the first thing that came to mind is what does it take to be a good student ? Okay , because Harris over here sitting across from me said hey , you know , I want to lose weight , you know , and I want you to , you know , help me .

But a lot of the times . Well , let's start from the beginning , then .

You went from 300 pounds to you lost a decent amount of weight .

Let's just say 100 . You lost 100 pounds , so Harris clearly sees that that's a progress . He's like oh shit , this makes sense . This looks like you know something because you did it . Why don't you help me out ? Right , I guess that's the qualifier that Harris is using to qualify you as the person who's competent to be able to teach him .

Yeah , so when ? Yeah , so so when he said that you know he said this a couple days ago and I've been , you know , like kind of messing with him , you know , and see where he's at , see if he's really about this .

Yeah , yeah , he's already applying certain principles , applying things that he thinks he knows ?

yeah , without asking me like hey , so what do I do ? Do I run ? Do I walk do I hike , do I like ? What do I do ? He's he's already planning to go to the gym four days a week .

I think A lot of people go on these revenge tours A lot of people go on these revenge tours as a motivator .

I was actually talking to somebody yesterday and he's like , yeah , you know , when I had my first girlfriend , my first love , after she dumped me .

Really , yeah , that's crazy .

I was like , wow , that's crazy . So what a sinner . Yeah , girlies that gave them the no , the naysayers , the naysayers , all the girlies said yo , I'm not going to , you know . I'm not going to hook up with you . Yeah . There was a lot Nothing like that .

Yeah , yeah , yeah . For whatever reason , it's more of the people that you know don't believe I can lose the weight .

There you go , the doubters , the doubters , yeah .

I want to prove it that I can and I will and I want to shock everyone . I want to put them in their place . Why ? Why does that have to be the motivator ? I don't know . It just motivates me to prove them wrong is it a good motivator ?

let's talk about this . Is it a good motivator to use almost a revenge ? I'm going to prove you wrong , right . So it's no longer like , hey , I want to be healthy and skinny , right ? No , I want to prove somebody wrong . So your motivating factor is not even losing weight and being healthy . Your motivator is to proving people wrong .

Yeah , if he's uh willing to be a good student , I can well , well , no .

The thing is , I'm not sure if the prerequisite of him needing to be a good student is the requirement for you to teach him your ways . I think that you might have to go through the process of him losing the weight for revenge and then gaining all of it back and more afterwards , and then losing it for the right reasons .

Yeah , that's possible too . You know what ? I'm saying that could be a fun ride . Hell yeah . So you're going to lose all the weight and then balloon up to 300 and then go back down potentially . Yeah to God damn right . So would you prefer to lose it once and for all , or you want to see Saul a little ? Once and for all man Once and for all . Okay .

Man , once and for all , okay , yeah , well . Well then , the question is right . The question is if you're doing something out of revenge , right , or out of proving somebody wrong , is that a sustainable ?

plan it's . I don't think , I don't actually . I think it's impossible , it's impossible . Well , yeah , two wrongs don't make a right , bro , oh shit .

I might have to contradict that . Okay , talk to us , harris . I've had several friends that did just that and proved everyone wrong . Okay , and got to where they are today , mm-hmm .

Yeah , but the thing is and where are they ?

Yeah , one buddy is in the Marine Corps . Mm-hmm , he was , I'd say , heavy when he went in .

Okay .

And everyone said you know , oh , you can't complete it at all .

Yeah , mm-hmm .

And he basically said F you , I'm going to show you . Okay , and he has , and he's been very successful .

Okay .

He's gone to recon Marine recon , which is one of the hardest trainings out there . Uh-huh , marine Recon , which is one of the hardest trainings out there . He's proved everyone wrong , so I believe it can be a motivator .

It can be , but the thing is , you're looking for a sustainable outcome .

I think that's sustainable . For how long right ?

Are we talking about lifestyle change forever or are we talking about for a specific time frame , A lot of people ? You know this .

Well , I think it's good to start going .

A lot of people want to get a summer bod .

Yeah , I'm going to like what I see , uh-huh , and I'm going to keep going .

Yeah , but for how long ? For as ?

long as it takes man yeah , but you yeah .

Let's say you've achieved the body that you want . Right , Keeping it off is the hard part .

Yeah .

I hear what you're saying . How are you going to keep it off ?

For years .

Okay , sure you got it done in six months or a year , the one thing I would say is like I don't just want to eat healthy forever . You know what I'm saying ? I just don't want to eat salads forever , and Mike was just talking about that .

I was telling him that I ate four slices of pizza yesterday , but I'm not stressing about it , I ate burgers .

He was just telling me that you just got to keep fit , you got to keep exercising , you got to keep moving .

It's not that simple , but yeah , I know I'm going gonna have to cut down what I do eat , my portion sizes and all that yeah , yeah , see , I think that , um , this is , this is a philosophical question , I think , mike it is of course because , at the end of the day , I think that if you have a person who's solely motivated by , let's just say , proving

There is another reason I'm doing this , though Did you just ?

come up with it .

No , my family , my father's side Okay , we all die young from some type of illness .

Okay .

Mostly , we have a lot of cancers that run in our family . Okay , I'm trying to get fit , stay healthy . Okay , so I can live past my 50s , which is rare .

Why do you want to live past your 50s ?

Men in my family . Why do you want to live past your 50s ? Men in my family . Why do you want to live past your 50s ? Because I want to live a long life . Why , If I have kids , I want to see them grow up . No men in my family . What is that going to do for you ? I live a long life , man . Be happy bro .

Oh okay , happy , yeah , you used the word happy there . Oh okay , happy , you used the word happy there . It sounds like you want to live long and also be happy . You see what he's saying you see he introduced a different variable here completely . He used the word happy .

My family has called this thing the curse in our family , because no man , at least for the past three generations , has lived past 50 . Wow , they've all died in their 40s and they're all heavy hitters . Everyone , shoesters , are known as heavy people . Okay , there hasn't been a skinny one in their adult life .

So yet again , you want to prove it wrong , prove this theory wrong and break the curse .

I want to break the curse of the weight . Okay , I want to break the curse of the amount of time we do live , mm-hmm .

But you also introduce a very important aspect here . Yeah , you just don't want to live long , you also want to be happy while you're living long .

Yes , I live by a saying Okay , okay , you know . Live like there's no tomorrow , live a quarter mile at a time , live like there's no tomorrow , uh-huh , because tomorrow is not promised .

Okay .

You can walk outside and get hit by a bus . It's just what it is . So , yeah , I live my sure . I live my life at risk . Absolutely , I do crazy shit .

Yeah , like eating nine Big Macs .

I don't eat the nine Big Macs . You got the wrong guy . You got the wrong guy there . Buddy you out of your goddamn mind . Y'all got damn mind boy , but I do live my life a certain way , reckless or I wouldn't say reckless right , there's things I want to do . Sure people absolutely say it's absolutely , I'm out of my goddamn mind .

Oh , ride a bull . I thought a bull . You say you write a book . It's the same thing , it's basically right .

I guess you could say it's for the adrenaline rush . It's the thrill of it . I want to become certified at jumping out of a fucking plane with a parachute . Okay , you know what I'm saying ?

My parents have told me I'm out of my have you ever jumped out of the plane yet ?

Not yet Okay . My parents have said I'm out of my goddamn mind . You know , but the way I look , at it .

Why do you want ?

to become certified so . I can do it myself . Man , Where'd you get ?

these ideas from ? How are they born ? I've heard some . Just because people tell you that you can't do it .

No , it's not about this . I've heard from several people that once you're out there , it's the most beautiful thing in the goddamn world Out , where , once you're out of the plane and you're going down . It's the most beautiful thing in the goddamn world .

Why don't you just get up and buy a drone ?

It's not the same dude . Well , how do you know this ? You're flying right . You're flying the drone yeah .

And you're looking at it through a fucking computer screen . How do you know ?

you're not going to jump out of the plane and pass out .

Who the ?

Just plenty of people pass out dude , there's only one way down .

What if you shit your pants ? Yeah , people shit their pants .

People pass out , people throw up . Yeah , of course All this shit happens . Yeah , you know what I mean . So to make a conclusion like he's , making like this is the best thing in the world . We're coming , dude . You know what boy ?

I already did , then we're going to see that I already skydove .

You're going too . I already never did it . Well , you're going .

All right , where are we going this weekend ? What's the rest of this ? You know a place that does it around here , of course . Where's it at ?

That's it . We'll make it happen . Let's do it . Let's do it .

I , you know , my mom , my dad , they've all said I'm absolutely nuts for doing this . But if you don't take a little bit of risk , are you really enjoying your life ? Have you lived it to the fullest ?

Okay .

That is another thing I think about .

I've lived for the past 10 years , but live like there's no tomorrow . So what is the difference between jumping out of a plane and getting out of your comfort zone and developing a new skill ? And you still feel the same brush . What do you mean ? You've never jumped out of a plane before . No , you don't know how it feels .

Let's just say right , what is the difference between the two , I don't know how to talk to people on the phone . Sure , okay , that's a good question , sales , I'd say it is a lot harder , right , because we're gonna find out . If I like jumping out of a fucking plane , I'm gonna be hooked onto someone .

You miscalculated .

Yeah , yeah , but you also , I'd say to everybody that's listening .

But the conclusions that you're making about jumping out of the plane , that you're saying that I want to be certified , that means you already have in your head that you know what it takes to be certified . Right ? I don't know , do 100 jumps ? Let's just say , or whatever it takes ? Right ? You're assuming that you're going to like the first jump .

The first half of it . Sure , I might be a little scared , but my buddy , my buddy's even said your buddy , or your body , my buddy's , my buddy's even said that 75% of the people that do it the first 10 seconds are freaking the fuck out . But then they relax , they look around and they just love everything about it .

You've never been on a mountaintop over here in Greenwood or airplane .

It's not like that , though . You're literally coming down to the Earth's surface from the air .

Mm-hmm .

And I've seen the look on everybody's faces . I've seen the videos . It's absolutely fucking beautiful .

All right , I mean , we're trying it tomorrow , right ? You said , let's do it Okay . No pulling out ? Man , no , pulling out .

Actually I like no bitching out here , man , Don't pull it out , man .

Don't punk out boy . Yeah , I'm talking to you too . You can't just cancel the plans now . You know you're on the podcast . Man , I have goals in life . Oh , first one I think the most important one is dropping the weight , getting it to a healthy thing . Why ?

Why is this the most important one ? Because this is going to allow you to do all the other shit .

It's not just the other shit . I believe if I dropped the weight and I have a healthy lifestyle , I will be able to live a longer life , like , I said , most of the people on my father's side have died and you want to live longer , because you feel happy about life and you want to extend it .

Yeah , okay .

Most of the people on my father's side almost all of them I've never seen a Schuster that was not overweight have died . There hasn't been a skinny Schuster . In the end , that's what I'm saying .

Okay , you want to be the first one .

I want to be the first one and I want to break the cycle in my family . You know , but this is like my bucket list man . All right , I want to lose weight . I want to lose weight , I want to get fit , um , and I want to experience life to the fullest man .

What are you unable to experience because you're a heavy hitter now ?

Can you see a dick ? I can't see my dick .

I can see my dick . There is stuff I can't see my dick .

I can see my dick just fine . There is stuff I can't do . If you ask me to run a mile in 12 minutes , I goddamn can't do it . Yeah , but who ? Cares about that you remember . In middle school , they used to time you yeah , I could never fucking do it . Yeah , but who cares about that Me ? Why , though ?

Average person can run the mile in 12 minutes . That's not true . Average person cannot run the mile in 12 minutes , or whatever the average time is .

Sure , they can . No , you don't think so .

No , 50% of this office can't do it . Maybe even 75% Really . Yeah .

How much can you bench press ? I don't know , I don't bench press Seriously . Yeah . How much can you bench press ? I don't know , I don't bench press Seriously . Yeah , I want to get fit to the point where I'm able to do a lot of the shit . I want to be able to run a half a marathon .

Why , though ? Why would you want to do that Other than to like to ? It's not just to prove people wrong .

No , I guess it's to make . I guess you could say deep down make myself proud .

But who's saying that those things will actually make you proud ? How do you know that those things will make you proud and not something else ?

I don't know . I struggled with weight my almost my for 10 , 12 years .

Uh-huh .

And I guess it's not just about proving to other people , it's about proving it to myself .

Proving it to yourself that I can do it that you can do it . Why would you want to prove it to yourself ? What's the reasons ?

Like I said , I've been heavy my teenage life , my adult life . When I was a kid I was the skinniest kid there was .

When I was a kid , I was the skinniest kid there was .

And then when I got into middle school , I blew up , yeah , and I just I don't know , there's a part of me that is upset about the weight . You know what I'm saying Embarrassed , I guess you could say . There's times I don't even like taking off my shirt ?

Yeah , so does it sound like you have some kind of trauma from it , right , yeah , have you .

Yeah , I'm surprised I'm even talking about this on a podcast man .

Of course you shouldn't be surprised . We're good at what we do , harris , yeah , so Harris just admitted that , or just confirmed that he actually has a trauma from being overweight in his life . Oh really , yeah , okay , what's ? the trauma . Well , just being overweight , there was . When I was in middle school .

There was when I was in middle school . There was a lot of bullying that ensued from it .

Okay , oh , okay .

It got . I guess you could say it still affects me today .

That bullying from before . Yeah , okay , how do you feel ? How does it make you ?

feel there's a point I was telling Mike . Sometimes I don't even like taking off my shirt because it embarrasses me .

Okay .

Which is one of the reasons I didn't take it off at first when we were doing the deck .

Yeah , okay , but you did afterwards .

Yeah , it lasted with me . Okay , to the point where , when I'm at the beach , I look around before I even take my shirt off .

Okay . Yeah . Well , because I guess for you , you believe that the way you look defines you in full Correct . Yeah , but is that the truth about the world ?

I don't know man , I still question it today , right ?

Well , yeah , I think it's a very good question that Mike poses .

I still question it today .

Yeah . Because you took off your shirt when we were doing the deck yesterday , right , why ?

You were hot . I think it stood a point I was hot , you was hot , and you also felt like you're not going to be judged . Yeah , because we've known each other for how long .

Exactly .

And nothing like that's happened . But I don't know , it's when I'm out there in public it but . I don't know it's when I'm out there in public , it's hard for me to do .

Okay .

It's embarrassing , extremely embarrassing so if you lose the weight . Right , yeah , you don't think you'll be embarrassed anymore . No , I mean , you know , I don't think anybody would have something to judge about anymore .

But what about you judging yourself , like , let's say , you're going to be skinny right ? What's going to happen to those ?

traumas and those things that you believe about yourself . That's a really good question .

What do you think this is ? Yeah , Ah shit .

He said oh shit . I think You're yeah . Ah shit . He said oh shit .

I think You're making him think , Mike . I think if I lose the weight and I get in fit , I just want , I guess , to feel proud of my accomplishments , right Proud of myself Right now , with the way I look you're not proud .

No , if you lose the weight , where's the guarantee that you're going to be proud ? I don't know it will , but I believe it's worth a try do you think the proudness is in the results or in the way that you achieve those results ? Probably achieve those results . That's a good answer .

Hell . No , you're out of your goddamn mind .

You're out of your goddamn mind , would you be proud of that , but you wouldn't make a lot of money , or would you be ? I ?

did what you were talking about , I'd feel like shit for the rest of my life .

So then , in logic , how , if you were to lose the weight in a way that you wouldn't be proud of , how would you be happy with the results ?

I see where you're coming from . Yeah , yeah . So then how would you do it then If ?

you want to be proud of yourself , right ? If you're going to engage in something , yeah , so then how would you do it ? Then , if you want to be proud of yourself , right , if you're going to engage in something . Let's say , we'll take the losing of the weight . How would you engage in losing weight that you could be proud of it ?

I guess take your advice oh well , listen , harris , I think that's a big . I think , with Mike at least , you are in luck to have a person who has experience with losing weight . Okay , and Mike happened to be in the camp that you used to be , or you are right now . Actually , he used to be in this camp where he lost weight for different reasons .

See , I used to dig this very deep about all my fucking drama . I wouldn't even talk to my family about it anymore . It's just that simple . Yeah , I used to bury it deep and just go on living with my life . Yeah , I would try not to care what anybody thought , but it didn't work . It didn't work .

Yeah , why you still tied to . You want to still prove everybody wrong I think that's what started it .

Yeah , it's just . It's not a couple of naysayers family-wise . Yeah , it's , I guess everyone that scarred me .

Mike , what do you have for him ?

well , yeah , like what we're saying , if you're gonna do it for the wrong reasons , it's not gonna work . It's impossible . And it might work for a year or two , but it won't work for the long run . It won might work for a year or two , but it won't work for the long run .

That's a really good question , though Shit , I gotta really think about it .

You see this guy's coming up with all the good questions for you , man .

Yeah , I know , I really gotta think about that . I don't know what the hell it is . Man , good , you good .

Huh .

Vaping , that Good , good Huh . Vaping , that's another problem though .

Ah Well , imagine something that like losing the weight and eating healthy and exercising . Imagine that every time you have to do it , it feels like a chore , it feels like unpleasant , like , oh man , I can't eat this . Oh man , I got to go to the gym . Oh man , I got to run . Oh man , oh man , I can't eat this . Oh man , I got to go to the gym .

you might have to re-listen to this whole thing .

First time I ever went deep down into the well yeah , harris is on a big revenge tour to prove everybody wrong about . Everything went deep down into the well . Yeah , harris is on a big revenge tour to prove everybody wrong about everything .

The bullying and the scarring .

Yeah , he went into bullying and all the stuff that happened in school about his weight and stuff like that . And now Mike's kind of trying to open up this whole can of worms about what's the proper way of doing something like this , right , losing weight and becoming better , a better person , right ?

You know , yeah know , losing the weight is just the same thing as losing any identity of yourself it's really not just the weight either .

This country does have a major problem who cares about the fucking country ?

with the bullying okay , sure , but bullying is like a necessary evil . No , yeah , okay , sure , but bullying is like a necessary evil .

Yeah , if you don't have properly educated kids , you're gonna have people that bully right absolutely , but taking it to a point where children let's say , are committing suicide . That's a major problem no , it's not yeah , do you , goddamn mind , are committing suicide . That's a major problem . No , it's not , yeti you got a damn mind .

There's a reason why I say that that's not a big problem . I think if you listen to any of our podcasts which you didn't , if you had the ability to understand any of our podcasts which you don't , fuck you man .

Fuck you , I'll fuck you .

You know what I'm saying you quickly understand that that the world is exactly where it should be just people care too much what other people think . Basically , I don't know what you're saying by that , do you care to elaborate ?

I guess I'm speaking from experience .

Right . What experience have you ? Committed suicide ? As a child ?

No , oh , but I've cared all my life . I'd say .

About the kids that committed suicide as a child ? No what other people thought Okay . And you didn't commit suicide yet .

And you're not a child anymore . Okay , so this doesn't really affect you , but when I was younger , I was hospitalized for suicidal thoughts Okay . So I guess what I'm saying is sure we probably a lot of people probably take things too personally . Sure , and don't think before they do , there you go .

Why do you think that is ?

I guess America has a major problem . Let's just say that .

No , it doesn't . I think you want to put America under an umbrella that I'm not sure if it really fits . I think that people and the effects that happen to these people , or whatever it happens , is exactly how it's supposed to be , based on what's going on and transpiring , and I don't necessarily think it's a big problem .

has in some ways made me stronger well , there you go , you see . Now you're saying the benefits of bullying it has made me stronger in some ways , okay , but it has also scarred me okay that's the one thing and you're still here , you're still standing has also scarred me .

Okay , that's the one thing .

And you're still here , you're still standing .

You're still kicking . You want to still live past 50 , right ? You still want to lose weight . You still want to be a productive member . You still want to prove people wrong . You still want to be a productive member of society . So what are we talking about here ?

The reason I wanted to lose the weight so fast . I wanted to go right to my next . No , I'm not ready to settle down just yet . Alright , boy , I want to go to my next high school reunion . Basically tell everyone F you look what the hell I did . You can shove it up , your goddamn ass you got your goddamn mind .

You know what I'm saying .

That sounds like you're angry . Go for it . Question Would you prefer to pull up to your high school reunion If you had a choice of only one or the other ? Either you are who you are right now yeah . But you pull up in a Ferrari , god like . You are who you are right now yeah , right .

But you pull up in a Ferrari , Goddamn bro .

Wait , wait , wait . Or you don't have the Ferrari , but you're skinny .

I'd probably choose the skinny .

I think you're lying boy .

I'm not lying , bro , because you know I'll just get a goddamn Tesla , bro , it's as fast as a Ferrari , right ? I agree ? Zero to 60 in 2.9 seconds . Oh my God , Elon has done some crazy shit to those cars , man .

Mm-hmm .

And I used to dislike Elon so much you knew him personally . No , I just thought he was a bullshitter just by listening to him really , who told you that ? What do you mean ?

who put you on no .

I just look at him and I thought he was just fronting .

All the time I hear him showing off his watches Yapping I would love to see those video clips that he watched and where he thought he was bullshitting based on the things that he heard . Yeah , I would like to see that .

Something tells me that I'll never see it Like when I saw him shooting up the Tesla truck with a bunch of fucking robots . He was a show-off in my eyes .

Robots .

Bro , you didn't see those videos . You know , that those videos are fake ? No , they're not , fucking fake .

Yeah , you're talking about a deep fake , the robots that he's talking about .

They fucking went viral , dude .

Yeah , but that's not real videos . Man , when he actually shot the truck was with Joe Rogan with an arrow .

With an arrow ? Yeah , then how does that prove it's bulletproof With that fucking arrow ?

Yeah , also shot it with a gun , but it wasn't with the robots . The robots was completely fake .

So he didn't shoot that thing , you understand what most of .

America is watching . You should show T totally what you're talking about . You send them a link over that they can check it out later .

And I think Joe Rogan was the one that suggested he's like what to call him , because Joe Rogan is the one that had the arrow thing right .

So he didn't test it and Elon Musk's like yeah , why no ?

They did test it , but it wasn't robots . There was a Tommy gun , I think that they used on it , and it performed really well .

It looks so fucking real . This world is getting scary bro . There you go , bro .

Especially for people like you . Imagine most of America is like you . What is that supposed to mean ?

Think about it what they think . It's real , Of course .

You guys lost your goddamn mind .

This is the goddamn AI they're talking about . That is correct . This is the goddamn AI . That is correct . Do you realize how sophisticated this shit is getting ?

For the individuals who don't have the eye for it , yeah , but for the people who are actually paying attention , it's fucking stupid .

I've listened to songs that were fronted as , like Eminem .

Yeah .

And it sounded exactly like him . It didn't sound like a goddamn robot . Yeah , it's getting scary .

For you . Yeah , you gotta . When you go home now , throw away your smartphone , get a flip phone and that's it . Forget about it . Get a goddamn mind boy . That's the first part of the weight loss journey . Yeah , they're controlling your mind , man .

They're controlling your mind , man . They're trying to make it into marshmallows , they're trying to fuck you up . Man , nah , man , when it comes to you , we're fighting against the world . You're the world , you're representing the world . You came in here and you're spewing a bunch of nonsense . Well see , do you understand this , or no ?

What do you mean Right now ? No , just period .

No , I'm not Okay .

The one thing I can say is you guys are , I guess , breaking me down .

Okay .

And building me back up . You feel this ? Yes , really . Yes , wow , that is very interesting . Okay , I'm going to tell them what's going on right now . Okay , go ahead . I don't know , so I've known eldar we've never met .

How long do you think it's been ? If you look back , I was 24 when I started youth partnership , so I'm 39 . I was what ?

15 years , 10 , 10 when I started coming around .

Yeah , so I was yeah , cause I was 16 .

So you were 16 . Yeah , correct , 15 years . It was John first .

It was John first and then you came and then yeah so I'd say around 12 , 13 , so I've known Eldar well over 100 years let's just say 10 years no , because I was there when you started .

Letter friend 15 years , 15 , so I'd say closer to 18 , I guess okay , let's just go with that let's just go with 20 round up .

Yeah , yeah , yeah .

I think you were 10 and a half no yeah , because I started coming around when John was there were you 4 months into going to 11 , or what day was that you got him thinking ?

about it ? Were you four months into going to 11 ? Or what day was that you got him thinking about ?

it who gives a fuck , Harris , but anyway . So I've been through a lot of shit in my life before I got to where I am today .

Where are you today ? First of all , it seems like you're still going through a lot of shit .

I'm no longer homeless because I was homeless at that point . Fuck you go , fuck yourself , go where the sun don't shine . I was homeless for , let's say , almost a year in the New York City shelter system when COVID hit .

Physical ability .

Yeah , it's taken me time Because I've been out of school for nine years . Every job I've had was not about brains , it was about using muscle .

Can you tell me how did you find your way home ?

How did I find my way ?

home ? How did you find your way home , elaborate In which way ? Why did you contact me ?

So I moved back to Jersey and I told you I was moving back to Jersey . You did , and you told me to contact you and that you might have a job for me . But that was a while ago . Yeah , and you still remember that . Yeah , I still remember that . I have one of the best memories out there .

Yeah .

I want to start my damn life .

Okay , well , drink that .

Amen .

Is this the alcohol speaking Harris , or are you just making this shit up as you go ?

I told Elba when I first came here that I wanted a career . I wanted to start my life Because , if you really think about it , I've never really had my own place . I've struggled most of my adult life and I just want a career . You know what I'm saying . Yeah , I want to be able to settle down .

Totally ? Is he ready , or what For what , to fight for it ?

What are we talking about ? Fight ? Are we talking about boxing here ? We'll see .

We'll see . Yeah , we'll see . It's a good answer .

I feel like it's including my own self . Does he have that thing , that thing , what ? Thing ?

That thing that you had , that .

I had what did you have that thing ?

that you want that I had .

Yeah , what did you have for what ? That thing that you like that want that drive ? There was a drive . It's early days .

I mean , I don't know .

Time will tell .

It's hard because you hear a lot of people , I guess , that want particular things or that , but for me it's very hard to assess . Not that it's very hard to assess them , because I feel like once you see some evidence and it's ongoing a case has to be built . Everyone makes a claim .

Actions have to follow .

Yeah . Then it's like okay , if we want to make a a metaphor , to like a like a court case , right , like you know , let's say someone's suing someone or there's like some kind of criminal investigation or something , right , like there's like one party's claiming that another party did something or something is going on , right , yeah .

Yeah , if it doesn't make sense , why ?

So same same thing here to me is like like a claim could be made , but like the actions are going to speak and like the the like , one thing will prevail one way or another . Yeah , but yeah , the good thing is that you definitely find out .

Yeah , so actions speak louder than words , harris , I do have motivation . Out in the words , harris , I do have motivation . I've been at the lowest point , I believe you can go in life which is homeless . I guess that's my motivation right there . I never want to end up in that position again .

Okay .

Is that big enough or no ?

I don't know .

We'll see .

Because it can definitely drive you for a particular period of time .

Yeah .

But then once you get some levels of stability those things become to fade out a little bit and they might not be as strong of a driving force anymore . But I think early on 100% they can be . They're a good driving force . They're very good driving forces right , because it's like a desperation right , like a desperate person , they'll do whatever .

I'll suck your dick .

Give me that crack oh you're out of your goddamn mind .

I'll suck your dick yeah .

Give me your goddamn fucking mind man Right .

So then , but after a certain while , if you take that person , you know you give them this . They get that , they get this , you know .

Yeah , no , you're right , you're no longer that desperate person anymore .

But at that point you do .

I believe at that point I will learn . I would have learned . You know , what I need to learn by then and be successful man . That's what it's all about . That's what I'm trying to be right now is learn to be successful in this type of business . All right , mike . What do we have ? I believe I have the best mentors right now .

Do you only see the glamour , or do you see ?

the substance ? No , I've seen . I see what you do . I've heard Anatoly talk to your customers on the phone . I've heard about the amount of stuff you're doing .

Does he feel the same thing you felt when you observed me ?

I don't know . You're the one that said Anatoly's a better salesman than you . She is , I believe this .

This is not even a question for me .

I've watched him . I've watched him . This is not even a question for me . I've watched him . I've heard him talk to the customers and I'm like holy shit , it's like watching the Wolf of Wall Street right now when he's when he's away , I might have an opportunity to talk to a customer .

You'll see my approach to it .

It's completely different well , when I watch Anatoly , I'm looking at him like I'm like holy shit , he's good , he's like the wolf of Wall Street .

That's a disrespect .

Because deep down , those motherfuckers are scammers . But he's really fucking good , he's good . He's good . Yeah , I mean , I've watched car salesman going to dealerships with my dad .

Yeah , and not buy anything .

And they don't buy shit . The people go in there they're like , oh no , that's too expensive , yeah , and they're like , well , we can do this for you . No , bro , they don't buy shit . Yeah , but you guys , your product sells itself . Wow , it really does . Where do you get this from ? When you think about it ? Yeah , you have a proven track record .

Yes , Can you believe that For a person like you , you need a track record ? You know what I'm saying . For a person like me , yeah , to jump on the bandwagon , you know ?

Yeah , man , I'm still in absolute shock . Dude Good , how far you've gotten it . Dude , yeah , good . I remember when we were working at your basement . Dude , that's right , look at you Look at me .

I remember when we were working at your basement . Dude , that's right , dude . Yeah , look at you . Look at me , man . You see the fucking watch I'm wearing . I don't even know what that is . Good , I'm wearing it for you , goddammit . So all right . Well , what can we do , man ? Is this fucking ? Can we bridge the gap ?

What do ? you mean by bridge the gap , the only way to bridge the gap is to keep challenging . So yeah , as long as he keeps putting himself up on the chopping block , then we can keep doing what we do . What do you ?

mean by the chopping block . You ain't gonna cut anything off , is you ? Yeah , we're gonna give you a second circumcision , boy yeah . Fuck you , motherfucker .

Oh , fuck you .

Oh , fuck you , oh , fuck you , bro , oh fuck you , You're the goddamn man .

Yeah , it's the goddamn man boy . So what are we saying , bro ? Can we make him lose weight without revenge ? Can we make him lose weight without revenge Can ?

we make him successful or help him become successful without revenge . Yeah , I feel like there's a very interesting process to me that plays out in this right . Yeah , and you reminded me of it when you said can we bridge the gap ? Yeah , and I think it's a very interesting phenomenon . I feel , like anyone , that hops on board or joins us .

It's hard to conceptualize it in my mind .

Do you know what I'm saying , or no ? No , I don't .

I have no , you know what I'm saying , or no ? No , I had a hard time .

I have no fucking clue what he's saying Good , you're talking about when you meet you guys , right , when everyone meets you guys , you guys are a bunch of damn fools , but I've known you guys for how fucking long .

Yeah , but you haven't really known us though . Yeah , you don't really know us . You don't really know . It's like you don't know what's actually going on . Last time you saw us was 10 years ago .

You know , yeah , sure , I've been away for a while Wrestling gators . First of all , there's no gators in Nebraska .

There's gators in this office , though . Yeah , where are they at , mike ?

Right there on the floor is a little gator Penny Penny Fucking Penny . So , mike , right there on the floor , penny penny fucking penny . So , mm-hmm , I get where you're coming totally yeah , what you're saying .

Yeah , do you know what I'm saying ? You're saying that it looks like it's very close , but it's actually really far .

I feel like it feels like it gets closer because , like there's what I'm trying to say , I'm trying to get you guys to see what I'm saying . Early on there's a huge gap right , and then you get to know us and some maybe basics are met .

I understand what he said , so let's just say this what's your advice to stop that from happening ? Whoa ?

now , that's a good question . That is a good question my advice to stop that from happening .

I mean like you started out right what works for you him asking that question already gives me like fucking , crazy , fucking thing what works for you and what do you advise ?

yeah , I feel like normally I would resort to something that would like give somebody like something like tangible and physical to like do or think about . Yeah , but I don't think that's possible .

Yeah , but would you throw humility in the span here as an easy answer ?

Yeah , but that's what I'm saying is that the usual logical part of this would definitely do that , but I also understand that there's no word to use , that there's no way to use that word to somebody and then them actually understand what that actually means I agree with that .

A hundred different things . I wouldn't understand what the hell you're talking about .

I agree , right so , even though it does make sense what what you're saying , yeah , I don't think it's possible to communicate that to somebody . Them understand it and then apply it and do it .

Yes right , yeah , because even though I understand what it means .

Yes , yes , even even though you understand what it is right yeah , it's a very like advanced way of acting . I I think right , yeah , um the only thing , but .

But the question is now has , let's just say , since harris is here , does his soul have that innate in him ?

I mean , I don't know .

Yes , everybody's line well , oh you see yeah , sure that , but no , no , no , no no no , but whether or not it actually is is a predominant force within the individual . I don't think Harris carries himself prideful or arrogantly Sure . He says some arrogant , stupid shit , but I think he yields when he needs to .

Yeah , yeah , so what else ? But yeah , he needs to , yeah , so what else ?

He's not speaking arrogance from a different place we can come from .

What are you talking about ?

He's speaking out of it because of lack of knowledge , versus the oomph of somebody else that we know .

You know , billy Bob Byron yeah .

Yeah .

I think , like I don't think , that Harris has been corrupted as much as some other person has been corrupted in the ways of being arrogantly prideful .

But you know , another thing I'm going to say is I guess you could say I've never been given an opportunity like this . I guess you could say so I've never experienced anything like this . I've never been given an opportunity , I guess you could say , to succeed okay wow . I mean , I know that's kind of effed up Fucking Nate yo . Who's this ?

He might be listening .

The funny thing is that , like I not exactly , but I definitely had a similar thing early on as well . Yeah , yeah , well , yeah , yeah .

Wow .

Yeah , that for sure . But to answer your question , harris , I was saying there's no actual advice of what to physically do , other than one thing that I could think of , because there's no way of making sense of what to do , you understanding it and then you being able to apply it . Right now I don't think it's possible .

mean Trust the process , trust the people around you . What are you talking about here ?

Well , he already appointed us as mentors . He said yeah but that's again .

It's like for now , right . The thing that I always experience in my life is that when like you thing .

for example , I don't think that he has that top bro . I don't think he has the top of something greater . What do you mean Like ? Who can I compare this to ?

Don't say names this is crazy .

Yeah , okay , I won't say names , but there's some people that have the thing where it's like no , there's something better or greater and we can have a measuring stick against that . I don't think he has that bar .

What does that mean ? What do you mean by that ?

What I mean by that is that somebody can have a really prideful . Without saying the names , I can't fucking make an example .

Okay , hold up , hold up . Can you say a letter , let's start . Let's start there . Let's put it that way If you can do that , you're not naming it Like what Somebody has a better understanding of doing things .

Is that what you're saying ? An impression ?

An impression of something greater . You know what I'm saying the impression of thinking that they know better than this Hockey .

Oh no , that to me , me like there's no way to say that , for example , that harris doesn't have that . I think everybody has that , and then I think there's no , it doesn't know .

But the thing is , everybody has it , but not everybody actually solidified in it . There's some people that are actually solidified in it because yeah sure okay , sure , yeah , I think there's , oh and then there's other individuals that we can completely destroy . That what ?

you're saying is that that person is solidified in that character and Harris is not . He displays the behavior of those qualities , but they're not solidified .

Harris' stuff is all imitation so what are you talking about ?

you're just a walking meme hey , go fuck yourself yeah exactly , hey , go fuck yourself .

Yeah , it's like yeah , exactly , I'm so lost and that's a good thing , harris it's a compliment it's a crazy comment , but it's a compliment bro , what are you talking about ?

your mind ? Is not that gone to the point where you can't ?

That I think I'm better than him . Yes , like you're a jerk-off , you're not a jerk-off , which is good .

I get where you're going with this and I know who you're talking about . I'm just going to put it like that .

Okay , you know what I'm saying . I can make very . That felt a certain type of way and they stuck by it , they fucking hung on to it . I don't think he hangs on to that or he has that yet .

Which is a very good thing , that I agree with , but he's going to have his things .

Yeah , I think it's all bullshit things bro , to me . In those scenarios , can he , I guess , withstand the storm of those things along the way , can he ? I guess withstand is probably the best way I could say the storm of those things along the way .

I withstand a lot of fucking storms in my life that's what he's saying .

That's his testimony . He said that he's seen a lot . We'll see .

I've been in the worst shelter system in the fucking United States . I've seen shit you've never States . I've seen shit you've never seen before . I've seen a lot of fucking death . You see the person get killed , yeah , and their body sit there for five hours . Yeah , the fucking shelter , dude . They left it there . People were using the bathroom around that body .

Yeah .

So if I can live through that , yeah , I see what you're saying .

What ? How can I say it without making it sound bad what it's like ? There's an innocence there , yeah , but it's also coupled with something else . Yes , with something a little bit . Yeah , but it's BS stuff the way I bit , yeah .

But it's BS stuff . It's better than the way .

I look at it , but it's BS stuff yeah .

Like it's not a strong yeah it's not conviction .

Yeah , it's not conviction there's no conviction behind it yeah , which is a very good thing .

It's a good slate . Yeah , the way I look at it , I believe I can do anything I put my mind to .

Even the things you don't know about .

And he has some kind of a hunch , naturally , organically , that we somehow can bring him to the place . Well , I think it's because this is a crazy phenomenon .

But I think this part of it is what you were saying earlier is why the gap initially feels so close . Part of it is we are good at what we do Because we ask the right questions . You see the questions that we're asking him .

Part of the reason is that tequila is good . Right , listen , we're going to advertise as tequila , not at the place they usually tap into and then he's like opened up .

I think part of the reason is that tequila is good , right , listen , we're going to ask him if he has a tequila . We're not going to say the brand that it's going to be , what's his name ? What is it called Supporting us or what is it called Sponsoring ?

Sponsoring us .

Yeah , we're not going to say listen , we're drinking tequila and it's really good , and that's why Harris , at least , has these types of thoughts .

No , it's not the thoughts . I guess You're a drunk boy , I'm not drunk , I'm tipsy , I'm not to that point . But I guess usually when I'm completely fine and that's , you know , not tipsy , I'm more afraid to open up about how I'm actually feeling .

Yeah , but look at this , I know , is it the tequila or is it the environment ? I guess it's a little bit of both . Oh , okay , good , this podcast is fucking good .

I guess we never really talked about deep shit before . Oh so you think ? Let me ask you a question . When I was younger , we never talked about deep shit because you weren't paying attention .

I thought you had good memory I did , but we never talked about this deep shit . That's because you were fucking bouncing off the walls yeah , you were raging back , then what ?

do you think we were talking about you ?

gotta really think about it , though but you found your way back to the fucking hive .

Yeah , that's true . What people don't know about this guy Buddy over here , did you even tell him what you used to do in your other life there ? No , no , why not ?

Because I was waiting for you to come over here and tell us .

This guy over here out , there was a counselor . He ran a group called the Youth Partnership . All right , where I guess the retards we don't use that word no more .

We don't use that word no more . We don't use that word no more . We don't use that word no more . We don't use that word no more , we don't use that word , no more .

And he's talking about you too , man , where I guess you explained how you started , recruited everyone in the beginning it was from the rec center , you over there , and then it just kind of blew up . Man , I think you probably had the most successful youth partnership .

Would you say the world ? I can't say the world . Though . Why can't you say the country , but you can't say the world ? I don't think you serve the whole country .

I think you probably made the most successful youth partnership .

No , it's not about the money man the most successful youth partner . No , it's not about the money man the most successful youth partnership out there dude , because you made it enjoyable , like you said they can't keep people now , after you left .

For years they weren't able to properly recruit and keep people around , but when you did it , you made it fucking fun . Thank you , harris . I appreciate those compliments , man , it was great .

It was great memories , dude .

And now look at this right , we're all coming back together .

We're having a YP reunion . We're trying to do it . Yeah , tomorrow we're going skydiving yeah . We're doing it right . Yeah , Where's the connection ? Don't worry about it .

We'll Google it .

Mike will make it happen you don't even know where it's at it . You don't even know where it's at it , doesn't ?

matter bro , it doesn't matter where it's at , we all go skydiving . Fuck , no , what's the problem ?

What's the problem ? What's the problem ?

He's a certified instructor .

Yeah , he's a certified instructor . Right here you want to go elder tomorrow .

I don't give a fuck , you know me .

I'm down for the cause . Elder's done it before . Mike . Sure , I'm trying to cross something here off my bucket list .

And you understand I'm the only person in this room that actually did it . Nobody else did it here , so I don't give a fuck .

Live life like there's no tomorrow . Cause you don't know If tomorrow's promised you gotta live a little bit of a thrill , yeah Unless . You haven't really enjoyed life , you go . Scott , I'm definitely not going live . A little bit of a thrill , yeah Unless you haven't really enjoyed life .

You go , scott , I'm definitely not going If .

I were to die tomorrow , that's the last thing I'd want to do . I'd say like 1% , 1% , yeah , there's maybe one . That's a pretty high percentage .

Is there a chance that me , you and Mike can be strapped to the same instructor and we go all together ? I think you'd kill that dude .

I don't think you'd be able to pull the fucks of shit . I don't think you'd be able to . I think we'd all fucking die .

I'll sit on your head and Mike will sit on my head and we'll just all go . God damn Mike .

Oh man , come on man Totally .

Absolutely not Seriously .

Yeah , he said it's a life-changing experience .

Yeah , he's never done it , but he thinks it's the best thing ever From everybody I've talked to man You've surveyed a lot of people all two of them .

Huh , how many people did you survey ?

You know you want to hear something crazy . The people I've talked to I'm not going to mention their names , please don't , because they're sensitive people no . Their jobs .

Wouldn't want them known .

No , they're classified , okay , they died , g14 classified or . No , I can't say their names or the Unitary . Yeah , I'm just going to leave it at that . Okay , names , or the unitary , I'm just going to leave it at that . Only close people know it . But they never skydived before joining the military .

Yeah .

He had two instructors at the same time and he was out of fucking control , swerving in the air , fucking spinning , going crazy , and the instructors had to literally grab onto him , pull the chute open , hold it for him , yeah , yeah . No , not hold it for him , they had to slow him down .

He said it's not even compared to when he does that . And now he became the happiest man in the world .

He's out of the military now .

Okay .

He still skydives to this day , for fun , for fun . He's not getting paid for it anymore . Yeah , yeah , yeah , he does it for fun , for fun . I'm not getting paid for it anymore . Yeah , yeah , yeah , he does it for fun . Mm-hmm , he does it at least once a month .

Okay .

And I want to experience this . That's it . We're taking you .

Let's do it . That's it . We're going to take you .

No backing out man . No , we're doing this , even if we back out , you're going . Well , I got to get there , man .

Don't worry about it , we'll get you there .

Oh yeah , you're going to hire one of your drivers to take me bro .

Yeah , you going to do something about it bro .

I probably won't even know , so let's get to it . What's the next subject ? Man ?

Wow , you already finished with this one . Well , we started with weight loss ? Yeah , and then we went to the job , the job , but it's all in the same , ain't it ? Yes , it is how so .

I believe it's where you want to end up in life is what I think we're talking about .

Wait , I thought we're not talking about it . What do you mean I ?

thought we were talking about how we get there . It is how we get there , but it's also where we want what direction we want our my I guess my life to go in .

Yeah , and what was important in the process ? About what do you mean ? Well , remember , we were talking , yeah , and we said something about the process .

Remember the process of what's motivating you to do the things that you do and you to do the things that you do , and for example losing your weight . Yeah , and losing weight the way you at least want to do it , right , it might not be sustainable , right ? The different motivators that actually motivate you to lose weight .

It can't be from revenge . It's got to be , I guess , from the heart . It's something I really , really want .

Maybe it's something you got to think about then . Remember we said you want to be proud of how you got there . You don't want to scam a bunch of people into becoming rich , you'd rather be rich . But do be proud of how you got there , right ?

don't worry , I'm not going to become the Wolf of Wall Street here oh , the weight loss thing .

But I think that's everything too . Yeah , succeeding here , succeeding anywhere in life , you want to be proud of how you got there , but the question is , what can you be proud of ? We ?

got to do a Rocky Balboa .

We got to fight Vodka Dragon .

Nah , man , what do we got to do ? You know you're going to drive the car from behind him and run man .

You're going to attach a rope to your waist and I'm going to drive the car .

He never fucking did that .

He was chasing chickens , though , in the field right .

What the hell ? You had a goddamn mind .

Yeah , I think he made them . He was chasing chickens , Was he ? He had to like catch a chicken , or something like that .

I remember it was the car driving behind him , but you got to play the Rocky music .

No , that you guys are talking about two different movies . Then where about two different movies ? Yeah , then , where the hell ?

you come from .

I'm talking about rocky three . He , he did the chicken chasing when he lost to uh to mr .

No , I'm talking about the original , am I no ?

this is the third one . Uh , when he lost mr t , because mr t was just , you know , too good at everything and he was just like kind of like like doing commercials and rich , and he lost , and for him to win he had to get faster . And for him to get faster , that's when he was running on the beach with Apollo and he was chasing the chicken .

You know to get agile .

Yeah , yeah , yeah . Which one am I talking about ?

The one where he fights the Russian guy , it's four , and that's when he's outside , like in the winter in Russia .

The car is chasing him .

Yeah , the car is chasing him and he's running in the snow . Yeah , man , you got to chase me with the car and you got to play the music , man .

You have that in you , huh .

Yeah . You sure it's going to work ? Hell yeah .

You got that dog in you boy .

I got the dog in me , but we just said that running is no good , I have Penny's soul inside me .

Sick . Yeah . All right , mike , you have a project I do , wow , his name is Harris . Yeah , you want to be buff ? Yeah , what's the end goal ? Like buff , like six pack .

It's not about being buff , okay . It's about losing the weight , losing the man titties , okay .

What about losing the mentality ?

That as well . What's the mentality I'm trying to shape myself into the point where I can be a success physically , professionally , as well as mentally .

Wow , how does that look ?

What do you mean ?

What does success look like ? This is a white shoe . Why is it white ? Because the color is white . And why is it a shoe ? Because this is a white shoe . Okay , why is it white ? Because the color is white , and why is it a shoe ? Because everybody agrees it's a shoe . What does everybody agree ? And when you use that word success , what does that mean ?

I just want to be successful . Yeah , well what ?

does that mean Having a million dollars and driving a Tesla ?

No , it's not about having a million dollars . It's about Wife with big old titties . It's not about a wife with big old titties either , but that's not a bad thing .

No , that'd be nice if you get more aborted once in a while .

Alright , let's talk about my nieces and nephews here , right ?

Oh shit .

I don't have kids right now . What does success have to do with your nieces and nephews ? I want them to be able to look at me and say , uncle Harris , you know I'm proud of the man my Uncle Harris is why ? Who gives a ?

fuck . Why do you want them to look at that and say that , Like don't they have their own lives ?

I want to be what ?

Nobody in Like whoever was a fuck-up that like well , don't they have their own lives ? I want to be what nobody nobody in like whoever was a fuck up in your life didn't have a role model that they looked up to .

that's a great question I've had great parents my , my dad . There you go . My stepdad , yeah , who raised me and my mom okay but I guess I want to get to a point where I am successful , I don't have to worry about going on the street .

Why , why ?

That is important .

Why ? Why is it important ?

Why is it important to you outside of the world ? But why is it important to you ?

Someone that works hard .

Yeah , I know society says that you got to work hard , you got to be a good .

You know all this , all that but why is it important to you ? Successful ? You do have to be a hard worker , it's just . It is what it is . You can't half-ass things in order to be successful okay I've seen people that tried to half-ass and they failed .

They failed , har .

If you could press a button right now and lose 60 pounds . Would you do it ? No ?

Why not ? Because then I didn't earn it .

Then why do you have to earn it ?

Because I do dude why that's like cheating the system .

Yeah , but you get what you want .

You lose your 60 pounds yeah , but then I'll just gain it back . I have to earn it in my mind . I have to physically do it in order to understand hey man , it took me this much to actually do this . I believe if I physically do it , I won't get it back .

Yeah .

Away from it . Yeah . Once I'm working towards it , yeah , away from it . Yeah , once I lose the weight , I'm going to keep it off .

That's just the way it is .

Good enough , now we're going to see when I'm going to chase his ass with a car tomorrow .

Yeah , instead of lunch , we're going to do runs . Huh , no For what . You're supposed to enjoy the process , yeah , instead of lunch .

We're going to do runs . Huh , no For what . You're supposed to enjoy the process . Yeah , you like lunch . Yeah , you got to like going out with the boys sitting down . Yeah , learn how to have a couple of farts eating a couple of fish sticks . Where the fuck are you getting ?

the farts from boy .

You got to enjoy lunch . No , you don't got to run during lunch , you got to take your time .

What Anything else ? Thank you , harris , for sharing all the stuff . Yeah , man , do we have any final thoughts on whatever we spoke about ?

Yeah , when you were asking totally for advice and you're like humility or trust , uh-huh . One thing that stuck out to me is the maybe it's not . Maybe it's just as difficult I don't know it's for harris to keep being himself and putting himself like being him . Let's just call it being your stupid self , yeah , and not being scared to present that to the world .

I want to state that when you put it right me and my buddy John I've talked to you about this earlier .

He might not be your buddy going forward . Just want to put that out there .

He wanted to fire you the first day . Be your buddy going forward . Just want to put that out there . He wanted to fire you the first day .

He steps you on that note .

He's not going to do that .

We have a collections department , if you want , we have the human resources that we'll send over .

We can garnish his wages . He's not being paid , mike , he's not being paid . Are we paying him right now ?

No , but at his other job we can garnish him .

Yeah , we can call his job .

Is that right ?

Well , yeah , if he's not paying his child support , yeah , fuck you .

Oh , fuck you man . We've talked about this earlier . I've talked to you about it . Me and my buddy , john , have talked .

Yeah .

And we haven't really changed that much . Yeah , I've kept my , as we said , my stupid funny self . Yeah , john has too . Me and Elgar talked about this .

think is happier . What do you mean them rich boys or you two stupid guys ? What do you mean them rich boys or you two stupid guys ?

I think my friends that are rich now are putting on a show .

They're what they're putting on a show they're putting on a show .

Wow , they're not actually . They're not very happy .

I think the saying is true , right , money can't buy you happiness . Yeah , it can buy you a lot of stuff . Sure , you can't do a lot of stuff without money . But do you really need millions of dollars to be happy ?

The Nate Madnerisms .

Oh , here we go with the Nate again you see why did you not see ?

this , because I didn't see any of this . Can you believe this ?

Yeah , I told you .

Yeah , he's able to like .

Is this a reincarnation of me ?

He's able to put like a question mark . Yeah , like he's able to say a word with his face without saying anything . Yeah , Like he's like .

He's really good at it , yes .

I don't even know who the hell is . Nate guys . I just want to put that out there .

That's perfectly fine . Nate got banned for other reasons . You don't have those reasons .

But I really don't think I'm going to change . I'm just going to put that out there .

I think you should . I don't think it's a bad thing , yeah , and I don't think you should .

Yeah .

Yeah , if you're happy and this makes you happy , yeah , and you could stay true to yourself and accomplish those things that you want to accomplish with the same attitude . Yeah , why not change Exactly .

There's no need to change . I've seen the people that get rich really forget who they were . Yeah , to the point where they move away , they forget who their friends were . You know even sometimes who their family was . Yeah , they get this life , they live this persona .

Take it or leave it , Mike . Mike , what are your final thoughts ? Do we have final thoughts or should we continue ? No , I don't think . I think there's a lot of fucking content here .

I do think there's a lot of content .

And this was very good .

Yeah , it was very good as always . Yeah , it was very good as always .

Yeah , yeah . Well , this one might be a little better . I'm just saying .

That's so you think , man . That's so you think , if we had my buddy ?

John in here .

Your buddy John's a big fucking pussy .

Instead of him being a little bitch .

John , if you're listening .

You're a bitch .

Exactly , you're a bitch , john . I don't know . You made some fucking bitch ass excuses .

No , but in all seriousness , it is just his birthday . Yeah , fine Happy birthday .

Yes , happy birthday . Happy birthday . We're going to crash our birthday party , right ? Yeah ? Is that a strip club in Patterson ? You're ?

fucked up .

What man we're going over there .

Oh , fuck you man , go , fuck yourself , you got a goddamn mind .

So what did we learn today ? Mike , give me some final thoughts . What did we learn ? Yeah , because I think I learned a lot .

Well , I think , I don't think we learned a lot . I think we remembered what we already knew , which is the recollection of the soul , which is the crazy phenomenon it's so crazy and the ability for people to tap into it it's crazy . Just like that , just give them a little tequila , and they're good to go .

That too , especially that tequila , not that tequila , not that tequila .

But you can't say that we can't say . We can't say , that's the crazy part , because no one knows what the hell you're talking about well , wait till we reach out to the tequila company and tell them the good one that you said .

That was recommended .

Yes , yeah one of my friends recommended it is this clean shit , the cleanest shit out there . This is . This is what you want to drink , yeah it's been in the family for like generations , like several generations .

The pure shit .

The pure shit . No hangovers , none of that . Yeah , it's really good and , like you know how we like Don Julio Mm-hmm , that's banned . Banned okay , so there's new stuff .

This is better than Don Julio . I'm looking forward to trying it .

And cheaper , so I don't like the feeling of the next day .

Yeah , every time I drink , I feel like , for sure , I don't have that shit no more . Yeah , but you're 26 . We're a young boy , bro . I'm an old man . No , when I was a kid .

I have the headaches , the whole shit oh that shit .

yeah , you were what 12 ?

You were drinking .

Oh my God , no you said young .

I went to the club this weekend . You're fine , wham bam . Thank you , man . I had five shots .

That's lightweight , bro . You know what we used to do , bro . 13 , 15 shots , bro Vodka . Before we go out .

You had a goddamn mind boy . That's what we used to do , yeah , but I tried to keep up with them . Irish . They're all Irish girls , irish gals .

All right , Harris . What do you have Any final thoughts on today ?

I think this was good . I think it was the first time I ever got Drunk . No , I'm not drunk . I think it's the first time I actually dug deep in a very , very long time .

Wow . So you would say that this was , in a sort of way , therapeutic . Absolutely .

I think any podcast can be a therapy . Calm down with that . What are your ?

thoughts on why you got here . Why were you able to dig deep today ? What contributed to that ?

Probably using my brain .

Is that Nate or no ?

It's got a name Eldar's counselor . Like the pushy laugh , no , like he's laughing extra .

Yes , yes , I'm fucking out , but I think it was a counselor man , you being a fucking counselor Digging deep bro .

This is Nate 100% yeah .

I gotta meet this Nate guy bro .

Before he became like the corporate slug .

Yes , I gotta meet . I gotta meet this snake guy , bro , because I don't know .

Okay , sure , all right , we'll arrange it .

So I understand what's how you're talking about , he's not himself anymore . He's not . He fucked up in the head .

Yeah , he lost his damn mind .

But uh , he , his goddamn mind . I think it's partly your counselor , yeah , nature . Well , your counselor , let's say your old ways . Okay , fine , your old counselor , because you know you've always been able to bring shit out . But the tequila helps , yes , and just sitting around talking for a couple hours , good , good .

You taking a tequila shot before you start making calls on Monday , or what ?

Uh-oh , you had your goddamn mind , alright Five o'clock somewhere .

Thank you so much for being honest . Yeah , you definitely shared a lot and you were definitely honest about some of the stuff .

Hopefully this can help other people out there .

Yeah , probably not . Yeah , probably not , but nonetheless you did good , I think , Especially for your first podcast . I think you did good .

Too bad , john Crespo and your brother's shit would have been a .

It would have been a zoo . Yeah , we first have been a zoo . Yeah , bro , it would have been good to say that guy .

Yeah , we first have to warm you up to it and then we'll see how John will do . He's gonna be a crazy asshole yeah so we'll see , but , um , yeah , thank you , that definitely was good . Absolutely , yeah , totally . Any final thoughts on everything that we talked about ?

Yeah , I mean I obviously I missed some of the conversations that you guys had . Yeah , but yeah , like for me , I guess , when I hear these kinds of things , like , it's hard for me to like a , to make like a conclusion hmm , like I'm definitely in the will .

We'll see okay yeah , the Chinese proverb that says we'll see , yeah , yeah sure , yeah , definitely let me remind you of the Chinese proverb . Okay , harris , a couple episodes ago we talked about the Chinese proverb . It was about helping guys . There was an old man .

Yes , and his son got a horse . Was that how it started ? Yeah , his son got a horse and the whole village was like wow , congratulations , your son got a horse . He wanted some kind of like prize or something , I guess I don't remember exactly , and the villagers all came to him said wow , like , so good . So it's great to hear you know .

Like , congratulations , he's like , we'll see if it's good or bad , you know because the whole village is celebrating , saying it's a good , it's a good thing . You know , wow , look he got , look he got a horse . Yeah , I understand .

Well , you have to see before you . Let's see . Let's see if it's going to be a good horse .

Yeah . And then a month later the kid's riding the horse . He falls off the horse and he breaks his leg . Bad luck , man . And all the villagers come over . They're like , oh man , I'm come over , like , oh man , I'm sorry to hear that , I'm very sorry , like you know , sorry to hear that your son broke his leg . It's terrible news . Everybody's sad for him .

That's why , when I'm pressuring Tully a little bit here is to say like , hey , give me some evaluation on Harris here . What do you see ? He says we'll see We'll . On Harris here , what do you see ? He says we'll see . Yeah , we'll see . We don't know whether or not this is good or bad . We're going to see . So this is the context behind we'll see .

Yeah , I understand it .

It can be good , it can be bad , but time will tell . Yeah , gotcha , mike .

No , I'm done , I'm done , I'm done .

I said you said Okay . Well , guys , thank you so much , harris . If you have anything else to say , please hold it till next week . I'm good . Yes , thank you so much . This was great . Thanks for watching .