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Defense in Depth

David Spark, Steve Zalewski, Geoff Belknapcisoseries.com
Defense in Depth promises clear talk on cybersecurity’s most controversial and confusing debates. Once a week we choose one controversial and popular cybersecurity debate and use the InfoSec community’s insights to lead our discussion.

Episodes

Gartner Created Product Categories

All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series . Do we really need more categories of security products? Every new Gartner magic quadrant complicates the marketplace but at the same time helps us understand the other vectors we need to protect. Do new categories of security products help or hurt the industry? Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week’s episode co-hosted by me, David Spark ( @dspark ), the producer of CISO Series ...

Apr 27, 202335 min

How to Always Make a Business Case for Security

All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series . How can security leaders and how do they go about matching business case to every security action you want to take? Is this the right way to sell security to the board? Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week’s episode co-hosted by me, David Spark ( @dspark ), the producer of CISO Series , and Steve Zalewski . Our sponsored guest is Sravish Sridhar ( @sravish ), founder and CEO, ...

Apr 20, 202331 min

Do Breaches Happen Because the Tool Fails, or the Tool Was Poorly Configured?

All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series. Security tools are supposed to do a job. Either they need to alert you, protect you, or remediate an issue. But they don't always work and that's why we have breaches. Who's at fault, the tool or the administrators who configured the tool? Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week’s episode co-hosted by me, David Spark ( @dspark ), the producer of CISO Series , and Geoff Belknap ( @...

Apr 13, 202332 min

What We Love About Working in Cybersecurity

All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series . We talk a lot on this show about what makes cybersecurity such a hard job, yet there are so many people who are in it and love it. What draws people to this profession and why do they love it so much? Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week’s episode co-hosted by me, David Spark ( @dspark ), the producer of CISO Series , and Geoff Belknap ( @geoffbelknap ), CISO, LinkedIn . We we...

Apr 06, 202329 min

Security That Accounts for Human Fallibility

All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series . We expect our users to be perfect security responders even when the adversaries are doing everything in their power to trick them. These scams are designed to make humans respond to them. Why aren't we building our security programs to account for this exact behavior that is simply not going to go away? Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week’s episode co-hosted by me, David Spar...

Mar 30, 202332 min

Why You Should Be Your Company's Next CISO

All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series . How do you make the argument that your company needs a CISO, and that YOU should be that leader? What do you need to demonstrate to prove you can be that person? Check out this post and this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week’s episode co-hosted by me, David Spark ( @dspark ), the producer of CISO Series , and Geoff Belknap ( @geoffbelknap ), CISO, LinkedIn . We welcome our sponsored guest...

Mar 23, 202328 min

How to Become a CISO

All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series. How do you become a CISO? It doesn't follow a linear pattern as many other professions. There are many different paths and there are many different entry points. Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week’s episode co-hosted by me, David Spark ( @dspark ), the producer of CISO Series , and Steve Zalewski . Our guest is Yabing Wang , CISO, Justworks . Thanks to our podcast sponsor, SP...

Mar 16, 202331 min

Can You Build a Security Program on Open Source?

All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series . What would it take to build your entire security program on open source software, tools, and intelligence? Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week’s episode co-hosted by me, David Spark ( @dspark ), the producer of CISO Series , and Geoff Belknap ( @geoffbelknap ), CISO, LinkedIn . We welcome guest DJ Schleen ( @djschleen ), distinguished security architect, Yahoo Paranoids . Tha...

Mar 09, 202325 min

Third Party Risk vs. Third Party Trust

All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series . Businesses grow based on trust, but they have to operate in a world of risk. Even cybersecurity operates this way, but when it comes to third party analysis, what if we leaned on trust more than trying to calculate risk? Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week’s episode co-hosted by me, David Spark ( @dspark ), the producer of CISO Series , and our guest co-host is Yaron Levi ( @...

Mar 02, 202329 min

How Can We Improve the Cyber Sales Cycle?

All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series The cybersecurity sales process is so terribly inefficient. And everyone, the targets and cybersecurity leaders, are losing valuable time because of that inefficiency. Where can we start making improvements? Check out this post for the discussion that's the basis for this podcast episode. This week's Defense in Depth is hosted by me, David Spark ( @dspark ), producer, CISO Series . Our guest co-host is John Overbaugh , CISO, ASG ....

Feb 23, 202326 min

What Leads a Security Program: Risk or Maturity?

All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series . When you think about building a plan (and budget!) for your security program, do you lead with risk, maturity, or something else? Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week’s episode co-hosted by me, David Spark ( @dspark ), the producer of CISO Series , and Steve Zalewski . Our guest is Ngozi Eze , CISO, Levi Strauss . Thanks to our podcast sponsor, runZero runZero is the cyber ass...

Feb 16, 202333 min

Limitations of Security Frameworks

All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series Why do strongly supported security frameworks have such severe limitations when building a security program? Check out this post for the discussions that is the basis of our conversation on this week’s episode co-hosted by me, David Spark ( @dspark ), the producer of CISO Series , and Geoff Belknap ( @geoffbelknap ), CISO, LinkedIn . We welcome our sponsored guest Stas Bojoukha , CEO, Compyl . Thanks to our podcast sponsor, Compyl...

Feb 09, 202328 min

Why Is There a Cybersecurity Skills Gap?

All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series . Why is there a cybersecurity skills gap? Practically everyone is looking to hire, and there are ton of people getting training and trying to get into the industry, but we still have this problem. Why? Check out this post for the discussions that is the basis of our conversation on this week’s episode co-hosted by me, David Spark ( @dspark ), the producer of CISO Series , and Geoff Belknap ( @geoffbelknap ), CISO, LinkedIn . We w...

Feb 02, 202332 min

What Can the Cyber Haves Do for the Cyber Have Nots?

All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series . Given that your company's security is dependent on the security of your partners and others, what can we do to get more organizations above the security poverty line? Check out this post for the discussions that is the basis of our conversation on this week’s episode co-hosted by me, David Spark ( @dspark ), the producer of CISO Series , and Geoff Belknap ( @geoffbelknap ), CISO, LinkedIn . We welcome our sponsored guest, Jason ...

Jan 26, 202332 min

Securing Unmanaged Assets

All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series . "When the asset discovery market launched, every single company that offered a solution used the line, “You can’t protect what you don’t know.” Everyone agreed with that. Problem is, “what you don’t know” has grown… a lot." Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week’s episode co-hosted by me, David Spark ( @dspark ), the producer of CISO Series , and Steve Zalewski . Our sponsored g...

Jan 19, 202331 min

Ambulance Chasing Security Vendors

All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series A good high profile security threat seems like a good time to alert potential customers about how your product could help or even prevent a breach. Seems like a solid sales tactic for any industry that is not cybersecurity. Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week’s episode co-hosted by me, David Spark ( @dspark ), the producer of CISO Series , and Geoff Belknap ( @geoffbelknap ), C...

Jan 12, 202333 min

Do CISOs Have More Stress than Other C-Suite Jobs

All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series Why do CISOs seem more stressed out than other C-level executives? Check out this post for the discussions that are the basis of our conversation on this week’s episode co-hosted by me, David Spark ( @dspark ), the producer of CISO Series , and Geoff Belknap ( @geoffbelknap ), CISO, LinkedIn . We welcome our guest Jared Mendenhall , Head of information security, Impossible Foods . Thanks to our podcast sponsor, Compyl GRC solution...

Jan 05, 202331 min

How Should We Discuss Cyber With the C-Suite?

All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series How detailed do we get in our conversation with business leaders? Do we dumb it down? Or is that a recipe for trouble? Check out t h is post for the discussions that are the basis of our conversation on this week’s episode co-hosted by me, David Spark ( @dspark ), the producer of CISO Series , and Geoff Belknap ( @geoffbelknap ), CISO, LinkedIn . We welcome our guest Lee Parrish ( @leeparrish ), CISO, Newell Brands . Thanks to our...

Dec 15, 202229 min

Can You Be a vCISO If You’ve Never Been a CISO?

All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series Why are there so many vCISOs who have never been a CISO? Isn't it difficult to advise on a role you've never done? Do organizations feel comfortable hiring an inexperienced vCISO as their CISO? Check out this post for the discussions that are the basis of our conversation on this week’s episode co-hosted by me, David Spark ( @dspark ), the producer of CISO Series , and Geoff Belknap ( @geoffbelknap ), CISO, LinkedIn . We welcome o...

Dec 08, 202229 min

How Should We Gauge a Company's Cyber Health?

All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series As an outside observer, how can you tell if a company is staying cyber healthy? While there is no financial statement equivalency to let you know the strength of a company's security profile, there are signals that'll give you a pretty good idea. Check out this post for the discussions that are the basis of our conversation on this week’s episode co-hosted by me, David Spark ( @dspark ), the producer of CISO Series , and Geoff Bel...

Dec 01, 202231 min

Reducing the Attack Surface

All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series The cyber attack surface just keeps growing to the point that it seems endless. Protecting it all is impossible. Is there anything that can be done to reduce that attack surface and limit your exposure? Check out this post for the discussion that are the basis of our conversation on this week’s episode co-hosted by me, David Spark ( @dspark ), the producer of CISO Series , and Steve Zalewski . Our sponsored guest is Jonathan Trull...

Nov 17, 202231 min

Do We Need a Marketing Manager for the Security Team?

All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series Those reports on security procedures for the business are falling short. No one is reading them. What good are security controls if your staff doesn't know about them or adhere to them? Is it time to hire a marketing manager for the security team? Check out this post for the discussion that are the basis of our conversation on this week’s episode co-hosted by me, David Spark ( @dspark ), the producer of CISO Series , and Steve Zal...

Nov 10, 202232 min

Cybersecurity Budgets

All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series Cybersecurity budgets are increasing, by a lot. What's fueling the increase and where are those budgets being spent? Check out this post for the discussions that are the basis of our conversation on this week’s episode co-hosted by me, David Spark ( @dspark ), the producer of CISO Series , and Geoff Belknap ( @geoffbelknap ), CISO, LinkedIn . We welcome our sponsored guest sponsored guest Nick Kakolowski , senior director of resea...

Nov 03, 202227 min

How Can We Make Sense of Cybersecurity Titles?

All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series What's the difference between a head of security, a vp of security, and a CISO? Do job responsibilities change whether you're a security analyst or a threat engineer? Roles are confusing and so is the pay and responsibilities attached to them. Check out this post and this post for the basis of today's discussion. this week’s episode co-hosted by me, David Spark ( @dspark ), the producer of CISO Series , and Hadas Cassorla , CISO, ...

Oct 27, 202231 min

Walk a Mile in a Security Recruiter's Shoes

All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series Instead of complaining about the security hiring process, walk a mile in a recruiter's shoes and have a little compassion to what they're going through, and how you might be able to help, at any level. Check out this post for the discussions that are the basis of our conversation on this week’s episode co-hosted by me, David Spark ( @dspark ), the producer of CISO Series , and Geoff Belknap ( @geoffbelknap ) with our guest Caleb S...

Oct 20, 202229 min

Moving Security from a Prevention to a Resilience Strategy

All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series Are security programs drifting from a prevention to a resilience strategy? If so, are you truly operating in a resilient environment? Or are you still acting in a prevention stance but you know you should be resilient? Check out this post for the discussions that are the basis of our conversation on this week’s episode co-hosted by me, David Spark ( @dspark ), the producer of CISO Series , and Geoff Belknap ( @geoffbelknap ), CISO...

Oct 13, 202228 min

How to Engage with Non-Technical Business Leaders

All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series How do you talk to non-technical business leaders about cybersecurity? It's a concern, it's a risk, they want to know so they can make logical business decisions. How do you help? Check out this post for the discussions that are the basis of our conversation on this week’s episode co-hosted by me, David Spark ( @dspark ), the producer of CISO Series , and Geoff Belknap ( @geoffbelknap ). Our guest is Sara Hall , deputy CISO, MassM...

Oct 06, 202230 min

Cybersecurity Burnout

All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series Why are cybersecurity professionals burning out? What's the dynamic of the job, the pressures being put on them, that causes the best to leave? And this industry can't afford to lose its best talent. Check out this post for the discussions that are the basis of our conversation on this week’s episode co-hosted by me, David Spark ( @dspark ), the producer of CISO Series , and special guest co-host Shawn Bowen ( @SMbowen ), CISO, Wo...

Sep 29, 202233 min

How to Build a Greenfield Security Program

All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series You're starting a security program from scratch and you're trying to figure out where to start, what to prioritize, and how to architect it so it grows naturally and not a series of random patches over time. Check out this post for the discussions that are the basis of our conversation on this week’s episode co-hosted by me, David Spark ( @dspark ), the producer of CISO Series , and Geoff Belknap ( @geoffbelknap ), CISO. Our guest...

Sep 22, 202231 min

Managing the Onslaught of Files

All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series Files are still the core of how people do business. How are you dealing with the onslaught of files coming into your network? People are sharing files across a multitude of platforms, and many for which you may not even know about. What checks and balances do you put in place to make sure you've got file integrity no matter the source? Check out this post for the discussion that are the basis of our conversation on this week’s epi...

Sep 15, 202232 min