Ep75: Addicted to Sex Feat Rich

very sexy way. Can we film you yes means yes? Before we get into Horrible Decisions today, I did want to go ahead and give a huge shout out UM to the Joe Button Podcast for shouting us out on their podcast, UM last week, dope. Well, I think we're gonna go ahead and drop this next week. So just because we're having issues making sure we get you guys the best quality of videos for YouTube, and again shout out to our YouTube viewer is um, you guys are

showing us love. You guys appreciate when we dropped the videos, y'all can kind of see our faces or whatnot, So that's super exciting. I did want to go ahead. We did get an email in response to UM one of the things that Rory said, and I wanted to bring UM, to bring light to it because I thought that it was important to kind of make sure we're we're not UM, what do I say, maybe spreading information that maybe inaccurate. I know, we try to, you know, teach you guys

as much as we can. And Rory mentioned UM during the consent talk and the drunk sex talk that most men are always to blame when they go to court and you can't win in court. So I wanted to read one of these letters from our listeners. They actually said, I'm just listening to your latest podcast and want to point out that what your guest Rory said about men always losing in court of law is bullshit. Out of every thousand rapes in the US, only six perpetrators will

be incarcerated. And I do want to say She also included a link for us to do our own research. UM. I'm afraid that Rory spread some very damaging and dangerous myths about the treatment of rape and sexual assault in the criminal justice system. That being said, the discussion about consent is very important and I think you're right to be having it with men would be better, um if

those men had their facts straight. Though. I think that what Rory was just saying is that as men, you need to be even more careful, um, because we know, and as we've been seeing with everything that's been going on.

Even if you're accused the court of like ship, not even the real court, but public opinion pens you was guilty, right, So I think that's maybe something he was trying to reference more so than anything, when when he said that, I was immediately thinking of the what's the swimmer brock something I don't know when when he's the white boy that raped the girl and then he got off completely

scott free. He was woman or something like that. I don't remember who we rate like I heard it was like an elderly woman was that it No, no, no, no, this is somebody else that was on here and you don't like community service. Yeah, he was like this like star swimmer and you know, you know just I mean, it's weird because when Marity said that, I think her and I both like nodded our heads. And it's because you always just know that they're such a bad like

you never get away from it. It's just this bad stigma attached to you for life. You're always going to be a rapist, no matter what the funk you do. I mean, I didn't know that until that girl sent the ad or I don't know if it was a man or a woman sent them the link. And I really appreciate you for doing that, because, to be honest with you, I couldn't believe the numbers. What was it? One and every how many people? Oh I didn't I didn't look at it. It was a crazy number, like

one in every sixty six or something like that. Get a cute, I mean, or get um? What's the word I'm looking for. I'm for the first time. You know what that is. I'm sucked up is this crazy workout ship and I'm like zoned in on like everything in this room. It's like adderall but like for the gym, and I feel insane by the way. I want to let you guys know, Welcome to Horrible Decisions. If you're ran new listener from Joe Budden's podcast and you heard

rory um. Every week, we have different types of guests, whether they're kinky or whether they're an influencer, whoever they might be. This week, Um, we have someone super special and you're gonna find out where they're here. We have a few different topics that we talked about every week, a few different segments, and then when we're about to get into is called vanilla shit, where pretty much is

gonna be the most vanilla ship we talk about. It's something in the news where sex is there, um, whether it be something like someone getting accused of rape, or someone selling their panties online, or the girl in Japan who was sucking too under people, whatever it might be. And this week it's about gay porn studies. Um. Yeah, so it's something that I actually came across UM looking. I'm on Twitter, so of course a lot of people

send me um some pretty weird things. And I've mentioned multiple times on the show that I am a female who was into watching gay porn. You're not the only one, And apparently the new study actually says um. Back in two thousand fifteen, the wildly popular online pornography site Pornhub, which both over a hundred and fifteen million daily views, published findings that took sexuality researcher Lucy a. Ville by surprise.

Women are responsible for more than a third of the site's gay male porn views UM and so I am going to attach this link onto our Patreon account for those of you who are patrons, and basically you can read up on it basically talking about the psychological factors as to why women prefer gay porn over I think this is weird. Men like watching lesbian porn if women are head a sexual and the male body. Some men do, but but all not women. I mean, all women don't

like gay male porn either. But here's the thing, Like, if you like a certain body type in your head or right, and then you get to see two of them, it's like the best. I mean, that's why I'm sure we like to watch it. Well, they the study actually went in depth as to why they say women like to watch it, and one of the things that I read that was fairly interesting was that they feel like

women in straight porn are often treated poorly. Um. They kind of feel like the women are being disrespected and porn, which I I agree to that a lot of the times. It's not a very intimate porn. I will say, if you are into watching intimate straight porn, UM, I only like BBC's clearly when I watch porn, but black b l A c K E D. It's it's filmed very intimate. Oh it's super into. I mean, but I don't know.

And I would say the production value production values super good, but it means to me they show like everyone is consenting, like it does. It looks like everyone is just o joint. So let me tell you about some intimate Like there's a genre called I think it's f E M M like fem fem porn. You can google fem porn. There's someone called Erica Lust. I brought her up a few times, and it's a woman that makes porn for women based on stories that people send into her. I think she

has a Patreon. You can watch it. But like, there is porn created with like a whole scene with candles and ship, like the music that to me is like the intimate porn black and as intimate as I want to watch. That's some intimate ship. There's only another thing. I don't like an intimate porn too much. I like to talk to diready in bed, and I feel like

the intimate porn is too soft. It's love making basically, it's like your hair is beautiful, your eyes are like an ocean and like the level and blacked because on in black it's like more so they're sucking their friend's friend, or they're sugar daddy, or they're sucking their home girl's boyfriend. They shouldn't be sucking, are they it's their first one night stand? In black? Yes, Like it's very very there's all you know, like that intimate, having fun intimate to me.

All porn besides, like gonzo porn is like what's gonzo porn? Gonzo? From what I understand, it's basically just go straight into the shot, like I need a sorry line. I can do Gonzo all the time. I could do both. I don't jerk off for your story. I need at least one minute of the storyline than one minute of watching porn. And then I passed forward to the fucking I then

I only like certain angles in the fucking stuff. I'm really big on telling me fast forward to the cum shot, which is why I only watch now because I'm like, I want to watch for five minutes of coum shots. I do fast forward to the shot to the time. It's just exciting for me. And now that like, so we got sponsored by Spunk lube. And it's actually, by the way, I didn't know people. I hate to say it like this, but like when someone wants to sponsor something,

I feel like, are they not well known yet? And of course that's not always true, you know what I'm saying, Like you do say in Handy Blueser or whatever. So spunk Globe is a loube that looks like come. And I had it in my house and one of my age was like, oh my god, bitch, they gave you like bottles like this. Oh my god, I used this all the time and like it like it's it's it's like it looks the consistency is just like, come, what does it taste like? Oh, we ain't tasted now, it

ain't flavor. It tastes fine. Sorry, but before we leave the Vanilla Show, I also wanted to note that another keep finding over the course of Netville's um research was that of the women and said that they had imagined themselves as men while consuming the gay mail erotica. And it's crazy because I don't really let's just speak of me. I don't think of myself as the male, but I either envisioned myself in the room watching and I always pick one of them to be my my boyfriend or

something like, oh yeah, take that. See I've I've heard guys say that with lesbian porn. For me, I can't get down with lesbian porn only because I don't know where I fit into the equation. Like for me, when I'm watching porn, it's like I'm trying to live vicariously through the guy that's there. But if it's just girls there, I'm like, cool, am I supposed to relate to? Oh? I don't think like that. That's just me. I understand why some guys like lesbian porn and why some girls

like gas. I don't need to you both just said this. I don't need to put me in there at all. I just watch it. Oh yeah, I imagine now there is a moment where like I'll watch it and then I'll like close, like there's actually this is more recently, the last thirty seconds before an orgasm. I let the phone drop and I close my eyes and then I'm like in my own thing, Like I just was like, okay, we were doing bococky done, and then I'm like, oh

my god, wakonda. That's really what I've been incurating too. Is Michael B. Jordan honestly, just everything about him, like that final scene where like he rips the shirt off and there's like, I'm just mad that he died. I'm mad that I saw all the tweets before watching the movie and I ain't know. God damn, Michael B. Jordan. I mean that made me a little bit sad because now every movie I've seen almost Michael B. Jordan and the nigga died. Fruit Vale Station. He died, motherfucking Black Panther.

He died. I'm my god, damn, because he's paying villains right. He lived in uh no, no, fruit Vale. He was just a broke nigger who got shot shot. I can't think of a movie that he lived in, because what's the first movie, that superhero movie that he was in. He probably died in that dying Fantastic four there because he was alive. Yeah, I mean, it's a whack as.

I'm just really hoping he comes back to Black Panther because I'm not going, I mean, I'll take died in the in the Ancestral plane when they you know, take the Earth. It's so crazy because we talked about ghosts um in the last episode and you posted the meme. Um, yeah, if that nigga was alive, I him, and I swear I thought about that when Paul Walker died, like that was a white man, I would have fucked, like damn, Like I mean, is that a bad thing to be

when someone dies, to be like damn? You could have got this hold on. Wait here's like a like is it? Like? I mean, immediately I thought he died and I was like, you never see him? Like they'd be like he'd be like, damn he did. Wait? Wait, have you guys ever sucked somebody that died? No? No, no, no, Like I'm not gonna lie. I'd be seeing them r I P T shirts and I'd be like, damn he did. I wish died.

But that's kind of still live. I remember, like someone died that I know, and I sucked him, and I didn't remember I sucked him until one of my homegirls, myni, They're like, damn bit remember. I was like, no, I didn't. But I just wrote on a baby mama's Facebook, well how sorry I am. I was about to send the bitch flowers and then I was like is that wrong? Yeah? I think that's bad form problem. But if you didn't remember the dick hopefully he having dicks. I don't remember.

Have you ever a girl and didn't remember? Well, I feel like everyone sees the title. I feel like you, so yeah, yeah, definitely. I mean like it's when when y'all talk about like body count two, I'm like, how would I even approach that? I mean, I haven't already said, I don't really know the ansom. I have no idea. I mean, I know my body count only because I

have a list. But I will tell you, Um, I have recently just been like, you know, on Instagram and like someone write me and I'd be like, oh, let me add that to my notes, and I click on a section and then you know, I put the number right by it. And I had actually have shared the list with a few homegirls and be like, I need you all to verify because yeah, I think we did it on air and I was like, are you I know you forgot this negative Niga She was adding while

he was on the show. It was bad. If I typed in every name of every person that I've slept with, if I deleted that file, my iPad would be physically stage. Yeah, it's it's ridicul you're the cash I would be spending so much money on I cloud storage already know. So normally what we'd have every week is a kink of the week. Um, And I want to know, did you

end up finding a kink for them? Yeah? Yeah, So a few weeks ago I brought this up and I think Mandy was like, I don't understand how you get your hair with but I found out it's a kink. It's called trip for salond. You know what to pronunciation do you go ahead? Which is smart is prips alagnia. I'm sorry, trips alagnia trip. Look he did really trips alagnia. So anyway, though, it is the joy of getting someone's hair shampoo. It is literally you found this as bro

because everybody be like, damn you like that? You like that? And I'd be like, you want you want to? You want to see you want to? I mean, well, I know when I go to like the Dominicans the lines and they'd be like doing my hair and they got they do this little scratching thing in the back when they do the shampoo, and that ship do feel good? It is, So that's what I was finding out, Like, Okay, because we're are rogin Is zones and then like that's one and it's a very intimate place to be touched.

And now I remember when we were talking about it in the BDSM episode about aftercare. Somebody washed my hair.

So I was recent I get my hair washed a Chinatown and this like really shitty place, um and there was a new girl who was like really fucking good looking, and it was the first time I've ever opened my eyes we had my hair washed because I was just like and like it was just wet and Sophie and she was just like, it's good to h I definitely like like my I like my my neck the back of my neck rubbed, and I like the guys to

play in my hair. And a lot of guys like for women to play in their hair too when they have hair, or even just to especially with my acrylic nails. Niggas love it. I'd just be like softly scratching bald heads and as short as hell. But I mean I want to go. So you guys are probably like, who is this third voice on the mic? I have questions because I just know. Man. He was like, oh, we have someone who's gonna come on. I can talk about this. This is how do you know about horrible decisions? I

heard you guys on Brilliant Idiots. Okay, I came from that and then he reached out. You reached out? What on on my Twitter? You d you d have to be somewhere email okay. So um, so, guys, we are having an actual, really interesting conversation today and it may get a little deep. Um So I just want to go ahead and throw that disclaimer out there. But somehow and you'll be thinking we'd be digging for these people

they come to us, so listen. You know it's his fault, but no, we actually have a real life sex addict um in the building today and he has gone through sexual addiction that has affected his job, his family, his life, his financials as well as his relationships. It's all of us. It me like, of course you're here, Like you know, how many people fucking read the caption and they were like, yo,

I could have been on that ship. And I feel like everybody is going to make that joke like you know what time, which is I'm so glad because that's why he's here. And he actually he actually said, um, I just want to let you know that Mandy wheezy, both of y'all are safe because probably actually I might have it. So what I wanted to start this conversation off, and if you guys did not know, we are entering the horrible decision for this week of sexual addiction, and

so I wanted to ask you what is sexual addiction? Okay? So sexual addiction is a behavioral addiction that basically means you feel compulsions to have sex or sexual interactions and you don't feel like you're in control of those compulsions. How do you differentiate that from someone who just likes a lot of sex? Because I know not that, but I just you saying that made me think of something when they say, like the mail on average, every forty five seconds or every minute thinks of sex. So what's

so different with that? And like a sex addict, Well, I mean, everybody thinks about ship all the time. But it's how you act on that that's really the problem. You know, how many times have you, you know, been pissed at like a coworking, Like I wish I could slap that bitch in the mouth right now, but you don't do it. Because we live in a polite society. And you know whatever, But imagine that you just couldn't

control that ship. And he was like, I wish I could say bam and then that that was it, and the many both would have killed each other if we didn't have control. There you go, yeah, it would have been dead. All right, all right, well you know that that's that's they say, if you had that, if you didn't have that that barrier in your brain, it would

be the same exact name thing. So, sex addiction is basically the inability to to stop yourself and a lot of these things without a tremendous amount of learning about yourself and why these things happen and then putting in the systems that will prevent that behavior in the future. And so um, being a guy with sexual addiction, it's

considered satta romania, satire romania. I don't really know how to say it, but it's the male version of nymphomania, which we're all familiar with um, which as a nymphomania pertains to women. And then there's a male version of nymphomania. And back in the day, they actually diagnosed nymphos um as having a mental disorder, and a lot of women who were seen as not being able to control their sexual desires were actually put into um asilnce not even

back in the day, we actually did. I don't know if we did a vanilla ship or if I was just reading it on my own. But sex addiction in the UK is not a mental health disorder. Yeah, it's it's mark that's fairly recent. Yeah, like within the last few weeks. And so I guess I want to talk to you more about that. Um I would love for you to just go ahead and open up to us and say when you found out your addiction and how

that journey has has gone. And then of course in the mix will go ahead and want to speak on more things. But how did you know that you were a sex at it? But first off, before I go any further, I listened to the last episode with Rory and I heard he brought wine, so I had to I had to one up on it real quick. Oh look, he said, and listen day, so I heard you got

the cups though I do have cups out. Hold on, let's go ahead of port because I actually guys, um as you guys know tex addiction in the control, Are you trying to get drunk? No? No, no, all right, So I heard the episode a while back with the Sante and I heard you guys talking about one of his live shows where he had wine from pomp Pet Wine Shop. Actually they're they're my neighbors. So shout shout out to Mote from pom Pet and that's a black

owned wine company in Harlem. Correct. Yeah, I'm Puerto Rican. My my father or man who raised me is black and he's like your nigot me. So all right, let's go ahead and so so so okay, look now the guests is just showing up, you know, bringing wine and she you know, I don't know what, so go ahead

and share with our listeners. UM, kind of your sex addiction and you know how you got from where you were to where you are now okay, So UM, I didn't realize my sexual addiction until, like I would say, my early twenties, but like looking back, I am thirty. Um looking back on it now, I can see where it started. So not every sex addiction UM starts from sexual trauma, but for some people it does. For me, it did, UM so from sexual trauma at a very

young age. UM that kind of carried itself through until um or it kind of suppressed itself until maybe like mid teens. Yeah, by a neighbor or female male. Yeah, and he wasn't that much older than me, but he was just old enough that I was like looking back, and I was like, that was fucked up, right, So now looking back, I see porn was like the first thing that really like triggered it, because like, once I

started watching porn, I was like uncontrollable. I was just like, I feel bad for every computer that I've I feel like every teenage boy was jerking off a lot. What made you so different? Because every guy's gonna hear this, and me, like, dude, I jerked off NonStop. I watched porn five times a day, so I heumped everything in the house. Well, I used to suck myself and watch the window to make sure my mom wasn't coming in the driveway. Yeah. Well, I think it has a lot

to do with when you want to stop. It's like before with control. If you are like, all right, I should probably can chill out. Yeah, put the brakes on this, and you feel like you can't, that's the biggest thing. So I would like watch porn jerk off, and then before I had even finished cleaning myself up. I'm like, what am I gonna now? Probably should watch some porn like it was. It was that that sort of thing like like my balls are wearing so much pain all

the time. Yeah, it's have you ever had to like learn are you ambidextrous? Like can you switch hands? Like is your one arm tired? Uh? No, I'm I'm strictly righty. So there's been times I've like, your your right arm does look a little bigger? Well, no, bullshit. Actually sucked up my uh my ring finger on my right hand recently, and yeah, I mean like, look, it's not the most important one, but I had it like taped up and I was like, how the funk am I going to

jerk off with this? And I was like fuck it. I was like, I'm just gonna have to like suffer through the pain. Okay. So even with what Wheezy said, a lot of people may listen to this and be like, watch a lot of porn, I jack off a lot? What am I an addict? So I want to get

into at what point it started affecting your life? Because jacking off isn't affecting your life, but it can and you can't control it, So how did it start affecting maybe your job, your family and your relationships that so I was once I started sucking, like I started working pretty late, well I think pretty late, like probably about like eighteen nineteen years old, and like once that started, it was just floodgates from there on out. Like I was always trying to meet people to have sex with.

Whether that meant that I was like trying to cultivate several different relationships with women that I knew, um or I was going on Craigslist or whatever I could find. Then when Tinder came out, that ship fucking ruined me even more so. Um But basically I was just running through people like body since NonStop. On top of that, I can to myself a heterosexual male, but if a woman wasn't available, I would end up trying to find a guy to sleep with even though I am not

attracted to men. Yeah. Yeah, whether it's whether it's I'm I'm not attracted to men, or be a woman that I'm like, I'm I'm not feeling her at all, but I have to do this. Yeah, did you find it was easy? I feel like it's easier to find at least the way grinder works nowadays for like a dude to go down on you. Did you find that that was just like it would happen quicker for you mean as far as like cooking up with with men um, Well, at the time, I was living, um in a different place.

I wasn't living in the city at the time, and that made it a little harder because it was like a, yeah, it was harder to meet people period um. Once I came here. Then I would go to like adult bookstores and stuff like that and try to hook up with people too. And that ship was just like, oh my god, you're freaking me out. I walked in to get some stuff at this one place and um not like it's called Gotham something like a bookstore and they have the viewing booths. Yeah. So I was in there for like

maybe three minutes just getting like whatever. It was four people in less than five minutes, I'm serious, asked me, didn't ask me. They didn't think I was a hooker. They asked me how much I cost. They just invited me in the booth with them. Yeah, so it works. And I didn't know it was like the meeting place and so you went to those Yeah, specifically for sex, but do other people go there for that? Did you go to brothels places as well? Yeah, so I was

going to like like sex parties. Um, the sex parties are probably great. Yeah, yes, um Bradlows not so much. I mean that's what's good about the Internet. You can find whatever you you need on there, right But um, so, I guess this is what also led into the financial issues you had. Absolutely. Yeah, I was talking about that I was spending money and I just didn't have Like when it gets to the point that you're like, Okay,

I have nothing in the fridge right now. I could either spend money on groceries, even if it's like the smallest amount, or spend it on sex and whatever, whatever, any anything I could whatever I knew would lead me to sex quicker. Yeah, so I would be the sort of guy that, like, I would be on my way to a date messaging somebody else from Craigslist for a one night stand, and then leaving the date, I would be hitting up somebody else like an escort, to like meet up later on as I'm on my way to

the Craigslist date. What's the most amount of people or times you've had sex in a day. In a day, I can't even tell you really more than probably not ten. I guess you don't have enough hours in a day for the probably like five. Yeah, probably around there, maybe a little bit more, a little less. What about when you have a girlfriend, do you just want to suck her? Like what when this was going on? When you're dating someone, is it just wanting to suck them like crazy? Or

are you interested in like new pussy? Um it, I do want to suck them. But the problem I love. I think porn is is a good thing for a lot of people, but when you have zero self control, porn could be one of the most damaging things, particularly because the way people, particularly men, at least a lot of the men that I know, consumed porn, which is, you don't just watch one porn and then you're like, great, I'm done. Non you open up like thirty tabs and then you watch like some of this one and some

of that one, some of that one. And what that does is it conditions the brain to always find something new. So it's interesting. I want to ask you what you think of this. Um You've probably heard me say the name Jeeves, Yes, Jeeves, and I watched a lot of porn together, and he told me he's been really happy about that because an X of his was very upset that he watched porn, and I guess because she was a feminist, and she said that it was really fucking

up his way of thinking how sex should be. Now, how do you feel about that? Do you think porn made you think your sex need to be crazier? For me personally, But I can't speak to what he was doing because I know, look, everybody, most people have sex, and not everybody is a sex addict, and some people just like to have kinky or sex or I want to try things that they watch in porn, which I mean,

I know I've done quite a lot. I think looking at there's a time where I think porn can As much as I don't agree with her to the point that you don't want him to watch it, I can understand that. Yeah, it's understandable, just like any because that's where you learn kink your ship. Yeah, any anything could be addictive like that though, I mean, like, look, just like the same way something we could drink alcohol right now, but none of us is gonna get fucking plastered, right Well,

I mean I don't know what. Yeah, yeah, I have a friend right now who's dealing with alcoholism, and I feel bad because I'm a woman who also likes to drink. So I feel like I'm enabling his addiction when we're together, and it hurts me because I literally know like I'm his stopping point because I know he would continue if we were together, if we weren't together, and so it just sucks. So Weezy brought up, um, how you go

about dealing with this with a girlfriend. So do you have, um a story to share about how your addiction may be ruined a past relationship or what happened with that relationship. I would say, Uh, It's only been a couple of years that I've been like sexually sober, not that long at all. Um, wait, you're not sucking right now. I didn't say I wasn't sucking. I just said that I'm sexually sober, meaning like I feel in control of my

sexual desires. I'm not running through people NonStop. And uh, one other thing about sexual addictions, you usually feel bad about the sexual choices that you make after and right now I'm at a place where I don't feel bad about right That's good. Yeah, it's like in moderation, you go to have a drink once you're over the alcoholism. Do you feel bad about it or do you feel like you're in control? Yeah? Yeah, I liken it to depression, like everybody's felt bad, but uh not everyone is depressed.

And I'm sure you know everyone has made poor life choices involving sex. But it did. And it may even be semi habitual. But if it's like one of these things that's like I feel like I can't stop it, then it's this is an addiction. I know I might be addicted in sex addiction. Do you think it had to do with some of the sex you had alone? Like would you would you be satisfied if you jerked off a few times a night, or would you feel

like eventually you had to suck somebody? Uh? Definitely I would feel like I had to suck somebody, like like if so that can help? Okay? No, no, no, because I would. I've heard people say like, oh, if you're gonna like meet somebody, you really don't want to suck them, just jerk off beforehand. I'm like that. I mean, I'm actually Rory just said that in the last and I

was like, I wish you know, I'm either or. So there's sometimes where like if I think I'm going to suck someone right and I'm like, I kind of don't want to. I'll jerk. Often it's okay, but then there's some moments where I touched myself and now I want it more. Yeah, it's weird. Yeah, No, I get that. I get that. Um. I'm sure for some people that works like a charm on the time, But for me, do you last long? High? Last too long? I actually do.

So It's not only coming from porn possibly and masturbation, No, I have so if I'm having sex with somebody, I at a certain point when I know that they've gotten whatever they need, I'm like, okay, now I'm gonna put you over here and I'm gonna with my ego so hard. The last time you came from sex years, not definitely, not years, I can't remember. Yeah, probably. So have you ever used like a sensitizer typing? Does that help? And

I don't. I'm I'm so afraid of using ship like that on my dick, like chemicals, Like the most that I'll do is like like a cock ring or something like that. But then and that helps that actually helps it helps keep you hard or helps you come. It helps me to, Yeah, it'll help me come. It help me come and keep me hard, because that's another thing. That's another thing that some guys can try if they are having maybe that issue. There's a bunch of good

Silicon co. I'm really interested because like, you were able to have sex with so many people and you're attractive, but like, what would you do? You are was your dick on Craigslist? Like how would you get them to say? Yes? I mean, was your dick on Craigslist? I wonder, like, I mean, I'm thinking and even day like, yeah, that's what I want. So I was what was it that maybe it's because you are good looking? Did you make an ad saying that you were a sexual addict that

needed his cravings fix? Like? What were your ad? Sure that probably could have worked. See here's the thing. I never made the ad. I would reach out to other you reach out. I made an AD like maybe like twice, and that ship was like god, damn, too many emails right now? Yeah, yeah, it's it feels better to be able to kind of pick and choose. I wish we would have done that before Craigslist was gone, Like, I

wish we could have found people on Craigslist. I feel like that would have been But I mean, I feel like we have so many dating apps now maybe you could just there's on that episode, yeah, like she matched with him and was like, hey, um, I know we matched, but I really just want to bring it onto my podcast. By the way, I do that with a lot of couples I matched with, Like, I don't really me I've never met a couple online. Am I selling the truth?

What are you know? But I'm just like I'm saying, like, if I'm swiping on Bumble or Tender and there's a couple, I'll swipe him right and say, can I interview you? But I wanted to ask you a question. So we have a lot of homemail in our email right now pertaining to the same topic. So if this pertains to you guys, hopefully you know. I just know we read it. But a lot of people are complaining about boring sex or not getting enough sex because maybe their partner isn't

a sexually craving as them. At any point in time. With your sexual addiction and being in a relationship, have you ever felt a woman take advantage of your sexual addiction? And how did they do that? Because to me, I'd be mad if a nigga only sucks me one time and then he's a one time hitter and quitter and done it other addict not knowingly? Okay, but I was in a relationship with someone that definitely took advantage. And

how did she take advantage of you? She she just knew that I always wanted it and needed it, so she would use that as leverage to make me do or to make me to uh, to have me allow her to do? Ship? Wait? What like? What to give us an example? Uh, I'll I should start off by saying that neither of us were good in this relationship like we like saying buy me things, or like if you don't do this, like um, pick me up, take

me here. It was a lot of just uh, if you don't do this, then I'm going to suck somebody else instead of you, like that sort of thing. And because I was an idiot and because I needed it so much, even though I knew that I could suck other people, I wanted her to like. That's another thing well I could say, particularly with me, is that like it wasn't enough to just have sex. I need to have sex with as many people as I could possibly have at any point in time. What's those people that

you sucked in one time? Or like, like how many? How many people that I have at one time? Not one day? And group sex? Uh, I didn't count. Wait, it was that many people? Well it was like a sex party. So it was and like everybody was kind of doing stuff with each other all at the same time. You know what, I really want to know what we're going there? When you got your first STD because I know it. Yes, how did that make you want to stop?

I mean everything everything? Did it made me want to stop? Yeah? Yeah? But at the same time, I was like, fuck, it's like it's not going to I knew I was talking to someone that there's a guy. I know, he's an entertainer for friends, he's got a girl, he has a few girl friends, and you just got a chlamydia and I you don't have to write his name now. But he said to me like, oh my god, dude, it got lamydia. I can't suck my girl for the next five days. I'm like, nigga, you goot to keep digging

Fans and He's like, why it's a pill. Can you wait? Wait? But can you funk with chlamydia with a condom though? Like, is it still transferable with a condom? Or I believe. I believe with the condom you'll you'll be safe. But I mean too, I think only harpies because that's the only thing that's on the outside. It's not that you

can climb through a condom. But you have to remember this, right, Your condom is not always going to completely cover the back, absolutely right, And so if it's like if you have pre come and it's coming like you're mixing fluids, that's what it comes. I thought. Chlamydia though, was in your fluid, not on the skin. So if you technically fluid is being transferred, okay, okay, okay. And even if a woman has it, let's say that your juices get inside of

his inside the condom. Yeah, I feel a part of like, as as great as medicine is, it in this way hurts a lot of people that have this mentality that like, oh, if it's so easily curable, then there there's there's barely any consequences. I don't funk for like a day or two whatever. I just take this pill gives me a little bit of a stomach ache, take like a rig running ship for a little bit, and then after that, I'm good to go. Just once. Actually, actually I'm sorry.

I had it once. It was a comedian. Yeah I had it, and then uh me and this girl like I got it, and then she got it and then again yeah yeah. Um. But anyway, let me get back to what you were saying about this girl that, yes,

how did she take advantage? She would just use that all the time to be like if, like, say, she was in school at the time, she'd be like, yo, if you don't drive down here to see me this weekend, then you know, I don't know what I'm gonna do, basically implying that she was going to suck somebody, and she would. And what made it worse is that she had some at ship friends that, you know, they were in shitty relationships too, so they would encourage her to

do shitty things. I'm not saying that my circle of friends were any better at the time. They were just as shitty. But you know, it's something that I just bought into, and that's actually what led to me losing my job. That's what I was going to ask next because some people may still be listening, and like, I mean, I suk a lot of bitches I've called an STD I did this? Am I a sex attic? Two? So your sexual addiction actually led to you losing your job?

How does that happen? All right? So I was working at a mixed martial arts gym in upstate, New York. And uh, at the time, that girl she came in my my girlfriend after I was like cleaning up everything, and this was like he had just upgraded from the owner of the gym, upgraded from like a smaller gym to a much nicer facility. I'm sorry, are you gonna tell you you just sucked her on like a nice part of the gym in the new luxury bathroom or gym.

You just got caught your job? Why I didn't explain that it was a new gym, Just tell me that. Why did you need to explain that it was an upgraded gym, because it was just something that was like he had so much pride in and wait, wait did he see you on camerah No no no, no, no, okay, so he went no, no, no, no, no, no, I got caught because, uh, we were wearing a condom and I threw the condom out in the garbage. It was the smart because I just felt bad. So they found

the condom and then he, y, you admitted it to it. Yeah, you know, because that's part of them. So another one of the guys that that worked there, he was cleaning out the garbage like before, like we had like a staff and he was cleaning out the guarden beforehand, and he found the condom and he brought it to the head coaches attention and he, you know, said like, yo,

who I need to know who did this? And I was I just felt so racked with guilt already from just doing something that I knew I shouldn't have done, and compound that with like the guilt from just being a sex addict and then also desecrating this guy's brand new gym. So I was just like, yeah, that was me. And he's like, all right, your keys, get the funk out. So you say you're sexually sober, now, are you clocked out? I was off the clock. Yeah, I still say you

should have kept your dot. But you say you're sexually sober. Now, what is the process of recovery and how do you go about having a relationship now. So there's a lot of things that can that can be Um. I know there's there's a s A A meeting sex Addicts Anonymous. I tried going to that for me. It didn't really work. Okay, you know, so there is just like you know, alcohol anonymous, alcohol alcoholics Anonymous, and a narcotics okay, and so there

is a sexual addiction place to go. Yeah. I went to an A meeting recently to go with a friend for the first time, and there was a few set statics in there. Yeah, and that's that's actually yeah, that's actually something else that A lot of people that are sex addicts also have substance abuse to which like compounds the problem. There was a girl that was saying she

was addicted to cocaine. I was trying not to do cocaine, but when she does cocaine, then she gets her sex addiction that pops out and she's like, then the two of them go around for days because she's so tired when she's sucking, so she'll do more cocaine to say to keep sucking. And it's a cycle or alcohol the same thing. It's they don't have the balls to yeah, damn, shout out to m YPD. Right, I guess they don't do drug tests. Well, I guess coke also comes out

of your system in two days, So she find me safe. Yeah, we just really the only drugs now legal that stays in like thirty Let me tell you how she'd be known in real life. So, I when I got this new job, I was like, damn, I can't think of the last time I smoked me. There was a few days ago, blah blah, blah blah blah. So I google drugs and when they come out of your system, weed, which is the most basic of all that comes out thirty day days. Meth and heroin and cocaine was like

five five days max. Yeah. Where literally? Um, okay, So you've gone to therapy, and so did you find therapy to actually help you with recovery? One on one therapy? Individual therapy was like probably one of the best things that I couldn't done in therapy. Make your horny listen to the stories. Well, they're they're very smart. Where they say please don't make anything explicit at all, they make that,

Well I would hear some good because that material, I guess. Yeah, but you know for people that are trying to keep their ship together. I didn't talk about this because I didn't want anyone to guess who it was. But I did go to an a a meeting with a friend who needed it. And while they're they're the sex sattics, I told their stories. I was kind of getting like, yeah, turned on, so I could see how actually let me

just to bring it back to that abusive relationship. Um one, I feel just ashamed just even saying this, and y'all, I know you're gonna respond pretty strongly. So I had never told this girl about being sexually abused until like pretty late in the relationship. And when we did, we were at her college dorm. It was just us there

and when I did it, she got turned on. And that should have been like the biggest red flag to me, just to be like, I told her the story and she got wet as hell, you know, like she was just like, I'm really turned when I when I told her, When when I I might have been like first grades, you know what. Okay, that's gonna leave me to actually share a story because you saying that it makes me

feel bad. It makes me feel bad because I talked to a guy who experienced the same thing, and I used to want him to tell me about what happened. So I know, I feel really bad because I know. So basically, I was talking to a guy and he had been in the NBA and went to overseas, but he was into He actually opened up to me that he would find trans and men on Craigslist. So I

was trying to understand where this came from. So he had let me know that when he was young he was in trans women and men, so he would, um, he let me know that he would be on like the back in the day was the message boards. So he said that he was on a message board and thought he had met a girl around his age. So he ended up going to this person and it wasn't a little girl his age. It was actually a grown man and the grown man would play with his dick. And at this point he didn't know if it was

right around like it was online dating it was. He didn't know. Um when that happened, he said he was thirteen. He was thirteen, So he was being fondled with this guy and it later would move into not only would he be playing with him, then he would ask him to play with him. He had never had been fucked annally at this point. However, Um, this guy would play

with his genitals. Fast forward, when he got to college, there was a bathroom and I'll go ahead and say at the University of Memphis where uh you know, but so there's a bathroom where guys could go in and get their dick sucked by other guys on campus. So it happened right Well, there was a professor in there and saw him, and so the professor actually from seeing him kind of threatened his grade and actually then forced him to perform oral sex on him at the school.

And then fast forward to even that, then he found out woods where you can go and get your dick sucked. And now it's kind of like an addiction for him to where he deals with men in secrecy. But it all stems from him being you know, molested all these times. And I, yeah, I used to want him to tell me how it happened, what he did to you and kind of relive it. But I also feel like it was therapeutic for him because it was things that he

had never told anyone else. Um, and that ship the cruising spots like gay cruising spots like that ship is like just the subculture around that, it's like ridiculous, just like likes gay cruising. So there's the thing. I think I've talked about it on the on the show before where one of my gaze was coming in town. Any googles, you call them your my gays, they're mine. They have other women, they're friends, but like they're mine. How very trump of you ship? You know what means? My husband?

I hate you, bro. I'm gonna let this one. There are a lot of places that I want to go right now, but I won't because I'll be nice as you are a guest that brought us rose. But yes, I'll shut up. Um So, yeah, my gays, my girls, my guys. So my guys coming down and they're like, bitch, we're going on this site. We've been hearing about it, and it's where you can find gyms in New York

to get your dick suck. Yeah, that's so. Like I googled gay steam rooms, just like googled it, and like there's a whole fucking sight that comes up that will just tell you all the spots to go. One of them, specifically, is the Financial District. Equinox said, yes, in general, just like so we went, we paid the day path. You're going to go to the gym. No, mall, don't go to gym and Chelsea. That happen. They're sucking cock. They're sucking dick and Chelsea. Okay, see, none of my niggas

could go to the gym. Now you better go play basketball on the court where everybody. But here's the thing. Benny used to tell me a story. And Benny was, um, one of my best friends you've out on the show. I was telling him about It's like, is this true with the steam rooms? He's like, girl, yeah, Like why else do you think I were? Yeah, but it's not even just that circle jerks, like people don't want to

be watched everything. Yeah, yeah, for real, there's but it's not even just Jim's though, Like there's like public parks. I don't want to like like say the names of everything, because like I feel like, you know, just one part, one part, like how would it go, Like a bench at a park, like a location, and they're like an under a certain tree you can get your dick. No, no, it's not that I'm talking about the whole park. Like you can go to specific parks at specific time, which

dudes like walking you. I don't want to go see somebody getting dicksa what's that parking? In? Like? Way, there you go. I'm not Washington Square and Central you know, I don't want to go all the way to die. I'm sure. I'm sure there's probably cruising going on in Central Parks. I'm sure Washington Square is a little smaller, probably that it probably isn't happening. I'm sure I don't

get fingered in Washington Square Park. I tried to know the guy before, and did you just like, yeah, oh my god, remember that time those twin basketball players, remember white guys. Of course they were friends. But no, it's crazy because I tried to circumcise. Of course they're all I didn't want to fulfill the stereotype from the bar. Weren't you the one that was saying that you don't that's me. I don't like turtleneck. Okay, she likes the skin.

She she knows like the sensitivity that discriminatory from what you guys might think. I've read so many things about me, like, oh funk, you maybe like that it feels like a shake weight something. Yeah he was, Yes, I said like uncircumcised dick feels like a shake weight, like you know when you're shaking the skin just be moving. It's really really different, Like it's all different types of it could either be a lot, could neither be a little. It could be a total sharp pay not. It's like a

popsicle with a surprise you. Well, look, I am circumcised, but I do feel like the stigma that we have culturally about uncircumcised dicks is kind of sucked up because it is everywhere. Yeah it is. Well, it's crazy. It's crazy because you said that, because I actually wanted to get um into our homemiale for the episode that um, well, I'm reading too, but I didn't want to read that because my friend actually is offering her free therapy for that.

So I'm awesome because the girl that wrote that question in and I have been d m. Yeah, so I'm gonna ask one before we get to that. But for the homemale for this episode, the subject line says by sexual or gay, and I thought that this was a good question that maybe you can hone in on specifically because you identify as straight. So it says, hey, Mandy and wheezy, I just recently started listening to the podcast

via SoundCloud. I'm totally loving the show. I have this curiosity since two thousand thirteen New Year's Eve when this guy who happened and that's th New Year's Eve, when this guy I've been kind of five years and I need to know, um he said, when this guy who happened to be bisexual started kissing me and one thing led to another due to the fact that I was drunk. All I remember is him on top of me trying to get my dick inside of his booty hole, but it was not getting any hard. So in the morning

it was whatever. I guess that means in the morning it was hard for morning Wood. I don't know. He doesn't he doesn't classify. So ever, since then, I've been looking up gay porn and it gets me hard as fuck. I've tried giving head and getting a cock in my ask. It was not nice and uncomfortable, but I enjoy getting head from guys. I've never sucked a guy before, but I would like to try. I fucked chicks and I love that. So my curiosity is, does watching gay porn?

Does watching gay porn and getting head from guys make me gay or buy it's crazy because I know, I know all these niggas listening for real gay, but but what would you say? How how should he classify? Because clearly I feel like he's having a psychological malfunction with how he should identify. Now, well, I'm gonna say, first of all, I know that all those like ultra hetero listeners, they're gonna discount whatever I say, because I already said

that I've had sexual and college with a man. Of course it's gay as say that as long as you know they were. They were mad at me for that trans comment where I was like, liking trans women doesn't because that's real though I've been with trans women, and like, there there's something very specific that y'all said that I really really appreciate it, which is, uh, there's a reason why gay men aren't attracted, like I said when I claimed them my gays have never been with a trans women,

is because they don't want to. They don't want to be a woman, absolutely absolutely, and and uh another thing you said that was wrong actually was that most trans women are end up being tops escorts, because well, yes I did so on average I was reading this, so it's not like wrong or right, but from reading articles um like confessions of trans women like female escorts generally, they said that they're topping because the men are playing

out of fantasy because they want to be top. That doesn't mean that they would choose to be tops, not choosing, but I'm saying the escorts are doing way more topping and even in relationships with men that they're starting to date, which is why they think they're being bet sized. They're doing the topping whether they want to be fucked or not. There generally doing topping always either it's couples, heterosexual couples that they're sleeping with that want them to top one

or the other. But it's crazy that you guys say that because, um, so I actually went to fairy Tales, so we I mentioned this with the with the swinger um episode and so it's a trans sexual strip club in New York City. So I went there last night, and um, it was crazy because of course I've talked to them because I was like, I have a podcast, I need to know what's going on. So they actually said majority of them don't even sleep with women, and not many of them are bisexual. They prefer only men.

Um and all of these straight men because they identify as straight. All the straight men that I know who have been with trans women, trans trans women, yes, trans women, UM, they have topped them. So they have not bottomed a trans woman. They've they've been they they've topped them. So when I've been with trans women, I've been strictly a top, strictly a top. Okay, So I guess for this listener, I would like to say, UM, and it's something that we've said often on this show. I don't think you

have to put yourself into any of these boxes. I feel like you're trying to find what box you fit in. And if you want to identify a straight, you can. If you want to say you're by you can. Um. If you want to say you're gay, I wouldn't put you in that box because you're still fucking and enjoying women, so you're not just a one track mine. But there are UM straight men or people men who identify a straight that do like their dick suck by men UM,

and I know quite a lot of them. Actually, UM, they won't kiss the man, they won't be intimate with the man, they would never date a man, and they would never fuck or get fucked. But I know a lot of men who enjoy receiving head from other men. But the kissing is like the kissing part is Lario like saying, I know because because they so my attention. It's so weird they bring it. I mean, I mean, if you're intimate. But just like I just it's stupid. You're getting your dick sacked by a dude, so what

do you even kiss him? Now we're gonna be more mad. You're sharing bluntwin niggas, Like, I don't even understand. This is so stupid and I'm so tired of all y'all need to fucking figure out what you are. It's not necessary. I mean, I think there's something important about Like it's I hear people say like, oh, labels are limiting and stuff like that. Well, labels also just help you identify shit.

If you went to the to the supermarket you want to get a fucking box of fucking what are you saying just like vegetables to me, Broa, I'm saying whatever, Like look the example, imagine you go into the mark you want some fucking cinnamon toast crunch, but every box of cereal is just a plain white box that says cereal. That's when you realize how important labels are. Labels aren't because you want the super cereals, you know what I'm saying. It's just well, it's important to know that labels can

be flexible. Labels also are there to help you identify. So what culture dictates as gay. I wouldn't say that this man is gay. He is somebody that may like some things that are are on the on that side of the spectrum. But I would say that's more by it than anything. But before we get out of here, I wanted to read this last home mail. Um. It says, hi, ladies, I wanted to ask a request from you both. I watched your show and listen to your podcast. Literally I've

watched all episodes. I'm from a very strict Muslim slash African family. But the more I've listened to you both, the more I've started to look at sex and more importantly, myself a lot differently. Just a little background about myself. I'm a teacher, studied in California and now live in London. I've been a virgin up to the age of twenty six, and I've had f g M, which is female genital mutilation, which is interesting because we just talked about um circumcision

being mutilization. This is the partial or complete removal of the clip. Therefore, I have no clip, nothing, not a and those have exclamation points after them. I don't know how to be comfortable with men in bed. And I've never orgasm in my life, never, which is crazy because we had someone right in saying they couldn't stop orgasm. So pick which you know, end of the sword you like to fall on. It hurts me to write this, but it's true. I don't know how it feels like.

And when I watch you guys talk about sex, I feel like I'm living through you guys. So wanted to say thank you so much. Your show means a lot to a lot of people around the world, and I hope you both know this. I wanted to write and say thank you so much for writing in it's letters like this um that that literally help me and Wheezy know that we're in the right path with the trajectory

of this show and the purpose of this show. I also wanted to know that if anyone in New York City happens to have female genitalal mutilization and would like to come on and speak on it UM mutilization mutilation, lation mutilations there AZ, But if any of you guys have f GM and would like to come onto the show, please reach out to our email at Horrible Decisions at

gmail dot com. She hit me up via d M and she says that she knows a few women, whether they're visiting New York or like, knows some in New York and I would love to bring them on. So following this, UM, the doctor that we both go to the guy No, actually called her office and UM got her personal email and asked and explained everything was like, Hey, I want to bring someone on. Can you help us talk her through this talk about how to have vaginal orgasms?

Possibly if she's comfortable. Then I had up a sex therapist, like only because you know people right in with random questions all the time, but I thought this was so important and you never know who's listening, And like, can you imagine losing your clip? Like I'm watching handmade sale and they're doing that as punishment. That's that's all I play with when I watch porn is my clip. My I have t Rex arms so I can't reach to finger myself inside my pussy because my hands it just

don't work that way. So I actually only play with my clips. So when I read this, I was just I felt bad, like kind of sad, like, oh my god, how But but I have um penetration orgasms like I come off being penetrated UM. So I have had orgasms without simulation of my clips, so I know it's possible for her. I do want to sit here and give a shout out to my friend Natalie Um. Natalie is a sexologist and hypno therapist that transform you from sexually

conservatives to sexually empowered. Most of her clients have been through illness, abuse, shame and guilt, painful sex, sexual dysfunction, and are looking to be freed. She uses a combination of sex coaching and hypnotherapy to achieve this. She recently created the first deck of sexuality affirmation cards on the market. If you, if any of you guys are going to the Slot Walk in l A, She's actually gonna have

a booth there. They help women reconnect with their body, restore their femininity, and reclaim the sexuality for the sexually empowered and confident woman. She has a line of merchandise with her tagline Orgasm Queen. They can be found at www. Love Chat with Nat dot com under shop UM. This is a good friend of mine from when I loved

in Miami and I love what she's doing. UM. And so if any of you guys feel like you are having shame from sexual trauma or that you're not comfortable with talking about sex or feeling sexually liberated as a woman, UM, check out love Chat with Nat. She does do her hypnosis over the phone UM or remotely if you guys are looking UM to do that. So again, shout out to UM love Chat with Nat. And I want to thank again our guests for coming rich. Thank you so

so so very much, thank you. UM. So by the way, y'all are right in and like, oh we listened to the show. Have me on? Me and my wife are crazy? Like are you crazy? Like that? Right? Want? I want to plug a resource for people that might think they are sex ated. Go ahead, and there is a website thing. It's called Recovery Zone dot com. If you just google sex addiction quiz uh, that's the first link that comes up, and it has a questionnaire. I think it's about like

fifty sixty questions along. They have a free version and a paid version, and you can see how deep into the spectrum of sexuality you may fall, as far as like not very sexually conservative, or this is concerned just because you know what, I kind of wash you. They take that quick. It's it's on a scale we should take. It's on a scale of one to twenty, and I think at six is when you start getting into that threshold.

Eighteen nigga. But I mean I drink in a bathroom. Yes, I have to go to sleep from masturbating, Like I don't have the same sleep. I have to come and feel tired to go to sleep. So I literally masturbate everything, even on my period. I'll just put it. I just put a towel. I'm gonna I'm gonna call it right now. I'm gonna say you, guys, between eight and a ten, only eight and ago to twenty. You don't know the questions though, so okay, you'd be surprised. Would you rather

eat a dick or a pizza? Not like what that's the type of question. If you want to dick and a pizza pizza, I'll eat that. I'd eat the pizzer. I'm getting I'm not gonna ride. Y'all know I don't ride, um, But anyway, I got one more things, but this is this is personal ship. I also have my own podcast to everybody got a podcast podcast? No, say podcast, It's no, It's completely unrelated to sexes. I do mixed martial arts. I've been training and boxing, m A all that other

stuff for a very long time. And I have a show called Super Upper Punch that is about thank you. It's about martial arts and combat sports. What's different about this from a lot of other shows that talk about like fights and stuff is I talk about UM. I talk with people that are involved with like the more people facing side of It's like, uh, had somebody on that runs a grappling tournament that raises money for cancer research, or somebody else has a donation based jiu jitsu jim

things like that. So check it out. It's called Super Upper Punch R on iTunes, Google plays. Super also very artickle it and I think that our listeners you also very articulate. I mean sucking all my words, but I'm awful on Rose and I just worked already, and I the way, I just don't have to leave theses and you know, I'm she's not a drinker. I am impressive, But it's also because she's about to record another episode and there's a strong black man standing in the corner. Okay,

I mean, I'm just saying. By the way, you guys, we are at Gotham Podcast Studio, one hundred Church Street. If you ever need a place in New York to record your show, if you want to invite us on his guest uh, come through here. It's a great place to record. They also have video and I'm doing their seminar on when is it Matt September fifteen. Um. Tickets will be out by the time you guys see this episode,

watch this episode, listen to his episode. You can check out my page Wheezy WTF and get some tickets someone. They also do one offs guys. So, um, I was just on a podcast who recorded here called two and a Possible. Um. She called me out because she knew that I only went on the podcast because she was fine. So I was trying to hollow just to find out she lived in Orlando and literally she comes up to

New York once a month. That's the girl who she so yes by Yeah, bit, well that's who I ran to after we recorded with Rory, I literally called her. I was like, on the reason I came on his podcast because he was fine, just for her to tell me she lives in Orlando. Here she lives in oran And and every time she comes to New York, which is once a month, she records all of her episodes here at Gotham pot She's gonna have to have a place to stay. You look, and here goes to sex.

I thought, you're saying you you should be like, yeah, you don't want all that money, Vanilla. So if you guys want to listen to when I Vanilla, how was sad and had a boyfriend? I said, but you should have told me this in the d M. I wouldn't have came. Um. But if you guys want to listen to a very vanilla um kind of response to kind of sex. Um. I was on a podcast called too in Impossible so that should be dropping soon. It was super cute. I possible feels like too and impossible to impossible,

but we'd be having us to un impossible. We all know who the impossible, the possible of the guest, but why are they called it possible because to impossible? Wa wait, wait, wait wait, do you not play spades? Have you never played spades? Don't take my black card? Your black card is removed six two an apossible. So the black guy in the room is shaking and you're not to play spades. Yeah, you're playing to know how to play spades. Okay, that's all I mean that said. Um, black people never teach

you how to space like play space is repeat. Oh you don't know how well we're gonna teach you how. I don't know what is over. Wheezy will get in a game of spades. She won't be my partner, but I'll make sure. I'll make sure how to play. Anyways, guys, thank you rich so much from I hate you. Of course you will you you know well, they're new you paid for me, man, They're not new, they're five years little bit of toddlers. They're broken in. Thanks for coming

onto the episode, which we appreciate you. If you guys have any questions again, want to reach out to us, You guys can always follow us on UM on our Instagram at Horrible Underscore Decisions. You can follow me at full court pumps everywhere and where can they follow you? We don't follow her, all right, that's fine to um. Go ahead and also follow our Twitter at Horrible Pod, which is ran by Weezy, So for all y'all alchemy about why Weezy and got a Twitter. She follows the

Horrible Pod page. While you're walking out, I want to thank everybody. I was giving away some back to school stuff. I always try to start a chain of donations, whether be back to school ship or Christmas. Thank you so much. Um, I only spent a few hundred dollars, but so much money donated from different men and women. I'm like trying to think of all the names, but it was so many of you. All try to shout you guys out in a description or something, but sending kids backpacks, clothes, everything.

I had a girl write me that listens to our show, Mandy this noble shit. She lives in her car. It's been the last three months. This is just it is what it is. Her kids stay with her family and she goes to pick them up and in her car and she says when she's driving around, she listened to our show. Fucking yeah, that's deep. Like the letters that we get from our listeners are amazing. But thank you guys,

that really helped me with that. If you guys ever want to start an Instagram chain, all I did was just offered to give things to my followers and other followers want to help, and we ended helping sixty five kids, which isn't a lot, but it's a crazy amount of I'm really grateful for you guys. Thank you for being listeners and wanting to help me in my interest too. And we love you. And we don't always do whole ship,

you know what I'm saying. Some kids, So we read books, we give donations, we support fucking charities, and sheet we are here trying to let y'all know hos do well. We use our last live show and donated to Survive to Thrive Global, which helps domestic um victims. Domestic song. I'm drunk and I gotta go back to work, so this is not good. So guys, I'm actually running out of here. I'm it's busy season, so it is now eight o'clock at night and I'm running back to the office. But