Ep74: Drunk Sex, Ghosts, and Bums feat Rory

of check. I'll say I brought a very exclusive two thousand eighteen, Dwayne read is this Peanott? What is this? It is? Pan puts either that or some merlot know which one to bring. But we see you brought the James for yourself and I have Yeah, I'm rish. I okay. He's like I tried to do the Black Side of the Dark time, you know what I mean, Like I gotta go back worker and make money with so I would like to continue that. I know that's right. If you guys don't know who Rory is, he is, um

the white voice on the Joe Button Podcast. There's another white voice. Well, yeah, Parks, but does he count of the voice? You're like the voice one of the white people in the culture of black cal Okay, So let me tell you the difference between you and Sam and Ahad, because I didn't know you were a Kappa until we interviewed. I interviewed, Yeah, so together. You know, Sam is younger

than me. I feel like you've been retired two steps and Sam's am I right, yea for a while, my shoulders are retired, like you can't ship me right now? For it's like we can't get Rory don't know, I'll do some community. Let's stop it all themone, every black one. And I go to at a kapa and they're doing a stroll okay, and they grow Oh no, I can't speak for them, shimmy and at the brunch I love it. So by the way, where I want to say, you are very attractive in person, and I think, here you go.

You already knew, you know with some from Reez. Here's the thing I love. I love our camera Guy Ericson, But I look nuts on that podcast. Yeah you do. I don't look like how I look. My dad called me and was like, dope, I'm not bold, but I look bold on that ship. My dad put a fucking head on. Well, my dad called me for that shows like, all right, you know you looked a little you looked. You look way better in person. I've been called reverse catfish.

Shut up. Yeah, I just don't look good on camera. Well, we hope you better get his angles, girl, because we're gonna be I mean, well we look like you know you're not. You know, I didn't wear a bra for you or you can fight too, you know what? The problems? He just lets you know, don't she is she Latina? No, she's got still you know, I don't know. I don't

problem ship. I had enough. I all the Jamaican Nicks in our Lando and usk me because that's from from So once I saw you guys like Smiles and South Star girls the Chinese one. But something what you think is going on? That's them right? May you know? I would pay Smiles the South Star to come to Dulu. Really they're fun, but they would have to wear the jeans with all of the NBA logos on. They would have to Why don't you guys have a party like that?

What I want to wear some Timberland Hills oh my god, we do like that would be dope because we all kind of nineties babies. You're actually in our realm of Asia. No, I thought you werelder than me. I think everyone's older. I didn't mean it. You know what I'm gonna take just because we're education. You guys are very mature and talk about sex much different than younger women. I'm always talking about come swapping, but I'll go, I mean, that's sure.

So what we like to do when we have guests on and you had my friends on the ropes two weeks ago, Cast and low but they didn't sit. My guys held it down no, real quick, real quick. So I saw low Um. So I went to the Pelusa in Chicago and I saw low Key and he was like, yo, Cast, I didn't even know what I was walking into and your girl trying to get me. But he was like, I just I had it cool. He was like, thank

god I wasn't drinking or something like that. He said something it wasn't on the like shot off and I felt so bad because it was such a great episode. We had an audio funk up and when we were leaving, it was like sitting in the elevator so quiet, and he's like, I just I didn't know where it was gonna go. I did not know, So we were all at dinner before they went. It was me, Cam Low and Cas was like, Y gon do this Horrible Decisions

podcast and someone called with me. I had something to do, Cam and something to do, so Low was like, yeah, I'll do it. And I was like, all right, I hope you ready. You'll see you fucking liar. I asked you to come on. You're like, I'm in l a. No, yeah, I was at that time, not the same day I recorded that wasn't shot said were dinner? Were you asked? You? Asked me a week after? They was? I met guy?

When I got you together? Right now? He said, but look she really don't be drinking, so her date's probably gonna be messed up. And I apologize beforehand if she comes out of character because you brought drinks. And when I bring drinks, she's like, are you know I don't drink? Was raised, beautiful white ass. She was like, I'm gonna I'm getting it. I mean, you know whatever, So let's ask the questions. Okay, are you guys in the three sums? Me and my girlfriend I mean, let's just go just

so real quick. We like we like to do. Ice was broken at come swapping, but we did asked you about the cup, so it was underwater at this point. We're under underwater, by the way. That's water boarding, right. Look here here she goes. So I want to know, I guess answer the question because I didn't even know who's gonna ask that. But are you and your significant other into three sum stories? That's something that's been she's she's not into girls at all. That's something that you want.

I mean, I've done it before, but not with her, and that's not her thing. That's not her thing. Honestly though I appreciate that because a lot of someone so bad. But if your girl's not into it, then why do you keep fishing? It would be a fucking nightmare. First of all, two guys that have not had threesomes that

want to have them. I hope you know it's not for you, Like if you go in there and think this is going to be dope for you're it's for those two women like you have to control to remember what Wax was saying, each other pussy and make each other come first. I just laid it. Yeah, No, that's a big strategy moment. You try to go in there and trying to navigate ship like now you fucked. You know. Every time, the dude is always exhausted. See that's why

I worked a lot. The last guy that I had a threesome with, he went forty five minutes with just me. So he went forty five minutes with both of us, and I was like, thank God, there's another pussy in here because he tore my the funk up. Three sums are fun break so and I feel like the Cauls get ready for threesomes, so like they just be really on there, like you know what I mean. Like he was watching when he was drinking, he was ready to fun. So I was like so glad. At one point, I'm like,

am I schafing? You're sucking the shit out of me? And it's really because you show you gotta show up. There's a crowd. It's exhausting a three way relationships. I mean I've dated two people together and like I could tell how tired he was of like just being like, oh god, now I got get for this. It's I think men are nuts for doing that. It's a lot

like bitches by themselves? Is it was fun because like when I'm tired personalities, let them start beefing, and you got to be the middle man, you know, picking side. He couldn't make it somewhere right. He was like, oh, I have a work thing, blah blah blah. In the group chat. Her and I both it was like, She's like, but you didn't say that earlier. I'm like, when you've never told us you gotta work thing, you never like

going to work ship. Also, now you're too busy. I was like, yo, he thought the blocks, like the group chat was on you. That's too much. That's why too. So I want to I never want my relationship to have a group chat. But that's not well. Y'all can send all the cool The memes be fine, right, the memes be fine. The gypsis okay. So I want to ask you this too before we go to our vanilla ship, but would you rather go a year without head or a year without sex? I'm tired of these days, man,

I'll just take of the head. Really does it well? Though? That's another thing? Okay? Do you so head? Is you enjoy head? Do you enjoy head more than pussy? Though? No, of course not No, I'd be tired. You'd be tired. It's a very busy time in my life. You would ask me that three years ago. Well, no, we could find would head as long as I could get some because when I'm gay for like a few months, when I Dave bitches all I get his hands anyway, I mean I could fuck your mouth, Conda kind of be

like sex. I love, I love my moth. I like when I'm scared of you running this ship. I don't like all that, but I don't be wanting to feel like but I do like mouth and like I like when they're like on top of my mouth, Like, oh, I like balls, period, I'd be licking the balls and then of course trying to go under them. But we're not gonna talk about that because you know that's no. This isn't the ass eating episode. Are you into that? Uh? To an extent, there's a way, what's an extent? I'm

not too my ass in there. I was raised a certain way. You look, but you would rather be like if I'm if I'm in the regular, if I'm in the regular head position and you happen to go down there, I'm not stop you but do you, but just a little bit more so she could access the ass whole better. My pelvic area is gonna stay where this question he's ever been took on of colleges and she's like, bring your butt all the way to the bottom. Once you feel like, do you, then I've adjusted a bit. I

wouldn't say my leg was on anyone's shoulder. My grandfather Roan is fucking grave. If my legs about your grandfather while you're getting your asthlet it wasn't. That was staying right now. But I'm cool with the ass eating. That's fine as a woman. Never what's about the finger because we know low Ki talking. I call him Thumbelina right now? That was that was in our group chat like we was like the next morning, low you nasty were telling

that story. Though it's never happened to me. I'm not saying I would be against it, but it's never happened. But she wouldn't kick a bitch in her face if she did it, Like you would still accept the finger. If I didn't like it, I mean, well no, no, no no, it's hard at you would like it's more like a surprise. They had the reaction that a lot of men are like, I'm cool, I've had I've had a doctor do it. Wasn't that cool? It wasn't that cool? And the globe

was on it. That shows security and rasculinity, though, because a lot of men feel very threatened by hands or anything around their back to them and it's like, girl is down there, Then why am I gay? How could you be gay? Girls? A lot of people feel like I guess you would feel the same way if we talked about pegging, Then what's pegging? When you funk a guy with a strap on? That, okay, you just gay. If it's a girl doing it, you just said it's a girl doing it. You're saying a girl a girl

sucking a guy with a trap on. Oh no, I wouldn't call it gay, Okay, but it's just not I would never do it. Okay, I might, Yeah, but you might. That's like a line you could continue going to gay. I think that draws right there. You know what's crazy? No, we got something bringing that up. So for the Vanilla Ship, what we wanted to have the conversation with Well, Vanilla Ship is our segment where we like pretty much bring up an article or something that I thought it was

about my skin color dedicated to me. Actually, it's not about the white guy fun this week. That's basically, what are you like a serial white guy fucker. More recently, when I moved to New York, like, I more black men in my life, Sam after the podcast, No, but I'll tell you what, Andrew. No, We're gonna go to everybody thinks I sucked Andrew. I tried to throw the pussy at Andrew and no, no, no no, it wasn't that

that happened, but it kind of just like died. And then when he invited me to Burning Man, I was like, I guess we really are just friends in now, because you ain't invited me out or not. Could it Burnie? I could definitely it, Burnton. I feel like, man, people, fuck it Burnie. I think that's probably what you think. That's a I think that's all you do. Like listen, we got it's just me and Alex in the rvy. We got a bed on the other side for you

do drugs and Burnie Man. I know they've been talking about Burning Man, but I just feel like you wouldn't bring someone to Burning Man to them when there's an orgy t burning that's ironic. To be fair, men cannot go on the tent without a woman. So he wanted to bring out me Alex and you know, he was a wit right over your head, wheezy. I was like,

we're just friends, kus, you know. No, So like on since I moved to New York, I've been like exploring pretty much every I've been starting with Eastern Europe and moving on to the West, so like you know, Croatia, Latvia, um, Russia, and then I just can absolutely all right, now that's why not now because I'm gonna relationship. But before that's why I couldn't really be a superhore because I don't

like condoms. Well, I'll tell you what. That's why I couldn't just do that has really been sucking me up because I've had a primary partner and he's really good. Dick is big, and you know, we're both safe and we don't use condoms. I have slept with my first person outside of him. Um just on Wednesday, condom I stuck right on my post and I was like, you know what, I talked about that at no point, like

I don't want to use it wasn't as good. I like to steal a dick in a skin and like I want to lick it off and all of that, you know, and it's just like, but I like sucking dick right in the I want to. I'll be like, let me taste it, you know what I'm saying, And I don't want to like lick the condom and get I love it. He pulls it off and then comes into my mouth. And that's threesomes. Like, oh, yeah, I'm not using three sums up with a condom, is card,

but we're getting hold on. You always use condoms, so but I don't. I haven't. I don't have much threesomes though, like with women, and like I just had the one not too long ago, but he sucked her all. That was his baby mama, right, So like um and other threesomes that I've had, there has been a condom. But to me, I've also had one where he switched condoms before going to us, so it was a lot more work for him. That's the thing. You got that same

condom my Michael Flora and my pH balance. I'm very proud of the smell of my pussy, That's what I'm saying. So you're even if you have a condom on while you're having a threesome. If you're using that same condom between both girls, y'all may as well all the condoms. But I mean when I was sleeping with collect Diary Dating, we shared our results give the swell pack this one. We shared our results and we were able to have

a threesome without condoms. And I really liked that. That was a very adult threesome, Like you know what ault because only one of them had birth controls, so you know we know how that ended. But anyway, got pregnant a threesome. Oh my god, my bad. I cannot movie. You just find we've never said that this show. No, I do not want I didn't even know, but I'm just saying it wasn't that responsible. Does that automatically make you the aunt godmother? If he was there when she

found out she was pregnant on Mother's Day? This was two years ago, and I was like, so, I hope you went to the christening anyway. She felt so guilty. She's like, oh my god, happened not Easter, that was the day, but that even though she felt guilt. Actually we was on the phone with me like I feel like this is all my fault. I felt responsible, but he was telling him to like he was him. I wanted to eat the crystal to you eat cream pie. You're filthy as ship. That's probably one thing I standard.

How do you think we're now? I'm filthy here? You bet you passed on it. You have a whole banana in your mouth. That the was too far for you though, I literally told you, but I was swapping seamen. On second episode, Hi goes on the higher of the pyramid. Besides olden showers, Bro, going to showers is like in the middle eating. Sorry, bro, if I'm liking pussy and I fucking swallow and I just licked the come off of her pussy's fire, to me, that is like you.

I would like, yeah, I would like to watch that. That's cool, you would watch it. That's what that was like my big fantasy. And then it look would happen almost a baby. So if you suck them like you kind of gave her an abortion. I can't believe I'm telling us, but it's not even an abortion because the whole baby stage. Okay, hold on, she was on the depot. I didn't know this until later. She was on the depot and just like, I know what that means. It's

a shot. It's it's so it's a form of birth control. I think you get in with the patches and ship. No, it's a shot, but you get a shot and you have to do everything a month she still got pregnant. Um. But anyway, I mean, it was embarrassing for her, and I felt guilty. I'm like, look, it could have been me, right, That's not what you say, bro, That's not what you were the crazy, you were the creamer. Um. But we're gonna go ahead. So I want to talk about for

our vanilla ship this week. We kind of want to talk about it because it's been a current discussion within not only Black Twitter, but Instagram Twitter amongst our friends. These are conversations I've been having in the group chat Um. If you guys don't know. Rory is also a part of the Wonderful fun Ask motherfucking party. Do Say Palouza um and so do Say Paluza is a party where mad black people get together and just drink Do Say and it's wonderful. Um. It used to be called Hanny

Paluza back in the day. I went to the very first one, by the second one, I don't know how I got home. Um was the first one at Camp's house. Yes, I was at the very first one. That was so long ago. This was back when all you had to do was bring a bottle and it was so much fun. And then as it kept going, like I've been so drunk, my friend got fingered at the first Handy Paluza on handy. Yeah. See it's pretty say elish it. You know, Um, I've

ended up get fingers. Well after the second one, I'm like, dance, you're just like bumping. Well, there's a whole basement of that. Oh my god, mad people fucking it. I wanted to bring up the conversation about drunk sex and consent um.

This is something we've brought up at our live show, but with the current conversation that's going on um and us talking about maybe liking or disliking Henny Dick and fucking and as women us getting drunk and enjoying drunk sex to an extent or then we black out and maybe don't enjoy it when we wake up the next morning.

So I kind of wanted to talk about it because with what you do when your party party, how you just said fingering is very common, like when you're drunk and you're at a SA palooza or you know, things are going to happen with liquor and individuals. So I wanted to kind of again have the open conversation about what our thoughts are on and having drunk sex consent, how we feel, and when a man maybe should not have sex when both parties are one party is drunk.

What are your thoughts on that, and have you experienced anything with your parties and or hearing situations that have happened. I mean, I can't There's five thousand people at them ships, so I can't really speak to it. But there's just so many people. I don't know what's going on. But yeah, it's actually just how I sounded too. There's like so

many people there, I can't keep track. But no, I definitely like you can see in the front row, like people get into you know, the lusty dance, like oh, they're about to fuck, but you know when people are about to fuck, and it's such a blurry and gray area. I would just think if if you think she's super, if you meet her drunk, I don't think you should suck. So it's really that you say, why do you say that? Why do you say that? Because you don't know her

and her reactions to know what if you're drunk? Right right? This is why I want to have this conversation. By the way, I really an adult. As an adult, you should hold your liquor to a certain degree. We're speaking as adults, right, but we're talking about we're talking about but I think you should be able to manage your liquor as an adult. But you should know your intake and know when you're getting to a certain extent. Have you had times though, where you've been drinking, because I

know how I have and both of you. Has there been times where you've been drinking and you're like, oh, I'm good, and then it just hits you Because I get what you're saying with controlling your liquor. But I've been blacked out before. I've had blackout sex, and so I've been I've I've been the victim of where I thought I was good and then I woke up the next morning realizing that certain parts of the night I

couldn't remember. So how is an adult do you gauge enough drinking when it comes to having This is why I also think friends are important. Okay, I think friends are very important. Rarely is everybody blacked out. Rarely Again, I'm speaking for me and my friends now. There's certain times that I've seen one of my friends engaging with

a girl at Paloza and they're very drunk. I'm like, same for women, though, I think about when your girls sucked up me my bitch home on like we I don't know about you, but I don't let my drunk friends go home and nobody but yeah, but I the blocking friend. I used to hate the blocking, give me mad blocking friends blocked out my own dick blessings from being like, bitch, no, you got coming me like just because I don't trust in the fact that that man will take care of my friend at that moment, and

especially like I just I don't know. I know it's the little feminist in me, but I've done it to women. I've been at a pizza parlor in Orlando. I think it's called Paninos, and I've seen a girl that was you know, Okay, so I don't say that because so we're from Orlando, but this is a pizza spot that's between all the clubs Central in downtown Orlando. And everyone

goes here and you always see. So there was a girl wasted, and there was a dude, a big host in the scene in Orlando that was with her and he was so mad at me for two years. I walked right up to a girl. I was like, yo, are you okay? And she's like, yeah, I'm fine. I'm like, okay, I don't know if you want to get like an uber home or something, but like you don't look like you can hold yourself up too well, Like do you want me to take you home? And she was like, actually,

yeah I do. And the girl huh, I don't find but if I want to funk and I see nothing about you know, and she said he said he was gonna take me home. I really don't have the money for uber, but you know, I figured like right, yeah, She's like I figured he might try taking his house, and like I really appreciate. Okay. So let's not have the conversation of the drunk girl stumbling out of the club. Let's take this to you are with somebody who you know,

one who maybe you've been talking to. You both go out for drinks and now you're both drunk and both of you have discussed wanting to have sexual relations with each other prior to you getting to where you are. So now you're both drunk, she consented, Prior do you still have sex knowing that both of you guys are drunk? As a man, what what do you do in that position where both of y'all are drunk? Well, I can only speak for me, Okay, of course I have somewhat

control of myself when I'm drinking. Of course I'm drunk, but I know right from role when I'm drunk. You know, sex though with a lot of like third or fourth dates, like that's my number, I feel like, not on purpose, but it's just usually happened. Grow up right, three dates girls, Shut the funk up? Go ahead, you know what your story, you fly and now your first days, I don't want to do That's what I'm saying. I like to give my pussy to somebody that I feel like I will

sunk again and by first day? Am I sure that I like you that much? Because everybody on the first date is on their best behavior, So don't come for me. I Well, whoever, I want, whenever I want, whenever the chemistry feels right, whether be a first day of second day, third day, But generally by the third date, I feel like I will know if I'm gonna keep seeing this person or if I'm interested, and I just don't want

to waste my time. So by that date, normally we're probably hanging out long and the bar is getting longer. You know what I'm saying, Like we're going, we're hopping around. I'm normally pretty drunk by that third date, but I am also the drunk girl that asks for it. Right, I'll be like, yo, can you come home with me? Do you want to come home me? Blah blah blah, and not until they'll do them day now. Jeeves. He

was the first person in my life. No no no, no, no. I think that's themes we did, we do and we So he was in my house and said to me, like, listen, if you want, we could just keep kissing and touching and playing around, and like we could wake up and finish whatever you want to finish, and asked me to take my after it was okay if he took his

pants off when he got into my bed. And when I tell you, like, I was so impressed because it not only made me feel comfortable, but it also let me know that the the things I was experiencing may not have been right. Right. I know we're all here for the cool consent. That's great, but no, I mean not a lot of people are doing that though. But I think it's important to he respected that you drunk. He didn't he didn't want to put himself in that position,

but you being drunk asking for the dick too. So I'm not gonna lie. I've had I've had sex multiple times where I have been blacked out, and depending on who the person is, I have woke up and just asked him did you come, where'd you come? Did we use a condom? And was really nonchalant about it. I want to avoid those type of covers, right, But then I've had I don't think that those conversations. I was with a person that I had been fucking four years. We went to the club, and that's so in that

sense it was okay. But then again, I have had sex where I have blocked out and I woke up feeling violated, like why did you fuck me? And we were drunk, but he was saying, you asked for you wanted it you and and so that's kind of where I guess this gets gray for a lot of people. Would you would you say that maybe men should just walk away from having sex at all under the influence, especially being in the time where we are now with the Me Too movement and what we see is happening.

I think it starts with liquor. I think men should moderate how they drink and know themselves. I think that's the first like about women being drunk. I'm thinking not necessarily. At the end of the day, men have to remember we can't win in court women. Of course, males have much more privileged than women do. But in the court of law, whether it comes with baby mothers, child support, rape, we lose no matter what. And then a man, you have to remember, if we're both drunk and you say

I raped you, it doesn't matter that I'm drunk. It only matters that she was drunk. You have to remember that law. So you have to keep that in the back of your mind. That's that whole ship. When I'm saying you need friends, you need to know how to drink, don't do that. Like you need to know right from wrong. If you're going out with a chick and she's drinking,

you need to drink less to make that decision. Well, I think the main thing is, like I was the king before the King of just beating off in front of a chick if she was too drunk, I'll happily beat it. You can watch. I don't given like I'm gonna nut, but like, if you're too drunk, now, I'm gonna beat off somewhere I go on my little round and I'm cool. So so that would be I guess the girl that's drunk. No, you need to. We're we're going to lose in the court of law no matter what,

we're going to lose. So when you go out, keep that in mind. You can don't fucking drink too much if you if you think you might suck this is this is something you don't remember. Like like a lot of dudes are so wait, like I don't know. And that's the thing, Like can I really place blame on two wasted people? I don't know if I can't. And the only thing I do plays a heavy blame on

is men. Like in a situation where I took the girl from the pizza place that fu drunk girls, especially women that you haven't been with before, that you're putting yourself at risk with whether they asked for it or not. Right. And I'm gonna speak in turn from not from the women's perspective, where I really want to call all yell

pieces of ship. But let's say for a guy to protect themselves, someone who is genuinely not trying to harm a woman or rape them, right, just the just the idea or the instance or the possibility that a woman could feel like she's violated. Why even bother like, there's just no point a woman knowing that you took care

of them. Let's say girls at your house beat off, beat off before you leave out that or even if you took a girl home and didn't suck her and left to her space, she probably gonna give me a pussy an order anyway, because she's gonna be like girl I went home with him. He was so nice. He ain't even try every time I give pussy because I was like, he don't want it real quick. I also want to say that while we're blaming um men a lot of let me finish. Can I finish my topic? No, Well,

I'm saying a lot of men are blamed. You just said that men will lose in the corner of law. And while I do want to put a little bit of the responsibility on us as women because with what you're saying and how you handle drunk situations, was this a conversation that was had with you growing up with your mom about when you started drinking and having sex

with women. Was there a conversation that was had? Okay, so this is where I'm gonna say, if we're going to have this conversation clearly as adults, I feel like for a lot of the women out there who have sons or who have young boys, these are conversations that now need to be had, Like, son, I don't care if you're fucking or not, if you're out drinking though, this is what can happen, this is what needs to

be done, and this is what you shouldn't do. And so as women raising these young boys and wanting to make change in society, I feel like it's our responsibility as women to have these conversations as mothers with our son and telling them what's right and wrong. We already know y'all gonna be out fucking. Women allow boys like it's not it's not like your dick is so um. I don't know kind of how how women we pride ourselves and keeping our virginity. It's not the same for men.

So a lot of women are okay with their sons knowing that they out there fucking. But those conversations when it comes to liquor and people being under the influence aren't being had. They weren't had as us and we're just nineties babies, so I know it definitely wasn't had with people of Joe's era or you know, I can't speak for that. My mother absolutely, how conversation you're not a man though, I'm saying with women with women, but I'm saying for men that conversation, Yeah it was. It

was a nice thing to happen myself. No, No, but that's something it's just with women having that conversation with young boys, not women to go. Yeah. Absolutely, I was trying to find any girl that would suck me like I was. That's all I was trying to do. And see at that age, what's the difference with like the drinking and the consensual thing now is like when you're

a teenager, you're just wanting rolt and running rampant. But the other thing is that I think it's really important now is when I have heard conversations with men discussing what they've learned about sex. It was more about protection where condoms use this, that's the conversation you have. But

it's not necessarily about the whole consent thing. Because when I was in high school, there were so many girls that felt pressured to do things that they did not want to do and um, and that was the majority of my conversations. And then as I got older, I got in the conversation of like making sure I put myself in the right situations and being responsible for holding my liquor. However, I still don't want to say that that necessarily means that a woman should feel blame on herself.

I never said that she feels were saying, I know, I'm just having a conversation on my own. No, no, I'm saying that generally, when we talk about responsibility with women, it also can be a thing where it's just like, well, girl, you was sucked up and that's the thing. You shouldn't expect someone to violate you, obviously, But the thing is like, we have to be also aware of our own tolerance as girls. I think especially your your your tribe to write.

I know there's a I don't want to say who it is, but there's a girl I hang out with it I just always feel like doesn't have my best interests. She's fun to party with, but I'm just like, I ain't gonna get it too sunked up around her, the girl that we just that you just met them. I know it's ten years when I'm went up, I'll be looking at it like, bitch, I'm getting sucked up tonight, So you can't get that funked up because I'm getting trash.

She'd be like, oh okay, and I feel like, what's your people like that bitches can be like have my back, I'm gonna be the one, and you have to be very honest, like with your friend, like hold me down. And I think it's a thing that girls don't maybe even check enough with their friends, make sure them bitches. Now I view the cock blocking friend much different than

I did when I was younger, Like way different. It's a totally different thing because I'll imagine that she knows her and she knows that all right, she's probably not in the right state of mind to make a good decision, and it's coming from I'm not trying to be I'm never the moral high ground guy. I never want to come acrosses that or anything. It's a selfish reason. Yeah, I know that could get me fucked up. I don't get about her now. I agree. I agree all from

a selfish point. You got to you're the guy in the situation. And I think too. I think it's smart that you said that. You guys talk about it with going to do say Pellusa and having each other's back. But I think that. But I mean, it's all different maybe in the early days now that it's a job. Right now, it's when you even go out to party, even say, if it's not do say or a lot

of guys who have groups of friends. You go out with groups of friends often, and I think that it's important that everyone kind of knows where everybody's mind say this, and they also would do say Pellusa. One person represents all of us. I'm not imagining something two more. This is also selfish. I'm not being the moral high ground person. I know if someone does something questionable and now do say Pellusa did that? So no fucking way of mind

to think about with music. When people die right then, like drunk a DC or something like that. Then it's like people go to e d C and they fucking die. Don't matter that there was a hundred thousand people at e DC Vegas. One person died and now we're all terrified. Like it totally represents your fucking brand, especially with liquor everywhere and as drunk women is. It's a mixture for something I want to be, but I want to be

a safe slot. That's that's a good way to look at We're gonna, I guess, um, We're gonna go ahead and get so every episode we have kinks of the week. UM. And these are different kings that people may be into. UM, some things that maybe we're not into, some things we've never tried. Um. This one this week is actually very interesting. UM. And I didn't pick it because you're white, I promise. UM.

So this one is called spectrophilia. UM. It is sexual attraction relationships or sexual encounters with ghosts who come and have hot sex with them. UM. A sucumust is a ghost in lady form that, in folkfare visits herd act of desire at night for some hot human ghost love making, and incubus is the mail variety. Though the actual existence of ghosts is up for debate, the sexual attraction that

spectrophiles report feeling as real as any other fetish. And I brought this up and I said ghost because you white. I mean, I guess you know your ghostly transum. Wait, do you imagine just do I have consent with the ghost? Do you remember scary? Imagine? Don't imagine trying to tell someone a ghost raped you. Carmonal lecture that got a ghost and scary movie. It was scary. It was one of them. Somebody was you know, save on our intern works right, We're no, I don't think it was. I

don't remember by the ghosts. Okay, there you go, there you got. Wasn't it good too? Like she loved and she became obsessed with the ghost Tony that you picked this cank'. I've listening to Charlottagne's audio book Black Privilege, and he talks about book. It's a great book, and he talks about how the ghost was jumping on the dancing his ship on his chest and I'm like, wait, this sound crazy. It was a real ghost, yes, and it's like a thing that goes on. Believe him too.

He says that the ghosts, I don't think he's lying it on what do they call They're called wigs? Wait did the ghost? So the ghost they basically sit on your chest so where you can't wake up. It's like sleep paralysis. And basically what happens is you're awake, but these ghosts, these women are just jumping down on your chest, keeping you asleep. I'm lying like I read the book. Yes, No, I've had that happen to me mad Time's I was

a kid. It happened to me a lot. Yes, when you can't get up, Yes, so like you're awake, your but your body was Yes, you can't move like, but you're subconsciously around you know what's going on since But it's just like, is that really? I mean, I guess would you would y'all like or sow the ghost? Look? I mean, do ghost have more? So your fantasy? Is

it the fantasy? Right? Because broadly dot Vice dot com shot outs to vice, um they actually just wrote a story, UM that fed up with mortal men, women are having sex with ghosts. Two women recently came out about their sexual experiences, but they're not the first to claim they've gotten intimate with paranormal Um. I'll put the link in the description of this bile, but basically, um, yeah, two women came out and said that they enjoyed having sex

with a ghost. I don't know if that's something that I necessarily I don't know. I mean I would do it. I mean, like, let's say I was at a actually this right, yeah, Look, she's like, yeah, we had the conversation. I mean, I'm an open relation. Like look, um, old Lester, who you do not like unless you're sounding like old um. The hotel I stayed in with Dove actually in Seattle, and her kept saying, like, isn't this creepy? Why are there all these natives mary can people in the wall.

They're like these black and white photos. Come to find out from the bartender downstairs, the hotel was haunted and someone jumped off the floor above us to their death. Bro All, I kept thinking to night. Every time I looked over to sleep, she was sleep. I'm like, bitch, if I get fucked, you're gonna hear me right, Like you're gonna feel it, right, You're gonna feel the wind. Because I kept thinking there'd be a ghost to come in here. I feel like I'm a cute girl, and

you know what, I'm saying I'm a horny girl. I probably saw me masturbing. They're like the ghost would just have to have a big I just like big dick energy. Baby. I want to know, are you getting big dick energy from Rory? I don't. I don't know white guys, so I can't tell, but you could maybe do white guy big dick energy. I don't know about big dick energy, but good sex energy, only because you haven't seemed too

pressed about sex, and you're always seeming very chill. And I noticed when men seem real chill, sex brought the wine. That's what. Yeah, you are bringing one horrible decisions and caps capas do be fucking. Plus, you got a guy Andese girl, and I feel like any women of afroes sent the white boys. So let me ask you that too, As a white boy, do have you mostly steered towards interracial dating and fucking black women and black pussy and

a note sweeter the berry the juice. I mean it's around more typically the circle that's around okay, but with white women, Spanish women, black women. But do you have a type you think you've noticed. No, I don't think I have a type at all. You don't have at all shapes faces. I don't think I I like that, but that actually gets us into our horrible decision. Oh wait wait, before we do that, I just want to drop an ad we got to if you guys are podcasters or want to grow your podcast, want to start

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Follow me on. I g to see when tickets drop at Wheezy w TF and let's get back um So, I mean yeah, no, it'll be a super dope to um. So for the horribleich division, you know, we kind of just brought it, brought it to full circle. He went ahead and kind of introduced it. I guess it's kind of going to be more of a conversation. The reason that I wanted to do this though, is because on

Mall's episode right who is Your co Host? Mall had an episode with us called hose be Like, And so we talked about all of the ho jobs quote unquote, like if you're really a home what do you do? They were like, what was it? Real estate agents, makeup artists, all of that ship, And so I thought, okay, what was like the Larry David of thinking about host? He was his life is carbon enthusiasm of at and be like,

no no, but he doesn't figure out women. That's I'll be listening to no no, no, no. I'm not saying I'm like women. All is a good person. If you need like a report, Mall alert, he's out there with them like that, but he knows. But not only that he was a good friend to guide you, but he's friends with all the hoss niggas. And then he's also just his friends with me, so his friends his hole niggas.

I actually really wanted it all on together, but I feel like, you know, maybe we can get into the more sensitive side because I feel like, yeah, Mama is a good a good friend for girls. So that makes sense too. He actually knows a lot of one. He is very sensitive. I like him. You got a girlfriend. I feel like you might be more in touch with your feelings right now. Will all be around? I don't think that's to do with a girl. Well, no, a girl can help you find your feelings. Yeah, and so

maybe so I know. But and this is why we need you because I think I'm scared of women that don't have male friends, and I'm scared of men that don't have female friends. That don't even start because that's one of your things. There's things that women, only women can teach you about yourself, Like if you're just friends with men, there's certain parts of your personality and reactions

that won't come out like women teaching things. And that's I'm scared of any girl that doesn't have male friends. That's terrifying to me. And was like, Yo, watch out for her brother quote unquote, Nope, keep the brother. There's certain things you need to talk to him. But you're not concerned that a girl with guy friends is fucking those guys. We well know a lot of guys do. Like some guys, some guys have a problem with you having all these bros. There's certain things that you need

a platonic relationship. There's certain things I can't tell my girl that another man could give. It. Think Home Girl's gonna be like, now you write, bitch, they're wrong. I tell my friends i'nna be honest with you. Generally, I don't care what y'all say. My friends will check me when I'm wrong. But women do side with their girls, whereas a male will bring you a different perspectives the ship. I always target her friend. I never really could game

to her. I always want her friend over the easiest way, and that's what you should be doing because you want the friends co sign. So the reason I said that I felt like, you know it could be the quote unquote more sensitive is because mall did hose be like, so you're the horrible decision this week is girlfriends be Like.

You have a girl, and I asked you about what qualities that you like in a woman and I and we have a lot of episodes where we talked about what we need from men, what we want from men. But I do know that we have a lot of women that listen to this show, and I feel like it's vital for someone that's in a relationship. Um, and it's going well to discuss what you found in her

or what you need to find in women to settle down. Uh. And the first thing you said was self awareness for in her, So can you talk about what you mean by that. That's people in general you need. I think it's Louis c. K that has a quote, the quote self love is great, but self awareness is more important. It's I caption you like, I don't think you can have any relate ship with somebody until you're self aware

of how you react and how you do. We're all human, so we're gonna funk up and do a lot of things. We're gonna say things we don't mean. We're going to react to things that we don't necessarily mean or want out there. But you need to be aware that it happened. Yeah. I don't like people that say, like, deal with me. I hate that, Like, what if you're a shitty person? Like I don't I think that whatever right now, I

don't think that's a good mind state to have. Like, you know, you're just gonna have to handle me because the person right, I'm not handling you right, Like he couldn't handle me. I didn't want to. It's it's way different. People need to be self aware and can you talk about why that is so unattractive from a deeper because I why I said you get my pussy right right now is because I feel like when people say that about themselves, they're not willing to self reflect and change

on what could be wrong. They just feel like whatever comes with their package you have to put up with, and people think that you can't change. The stiest way to it is enter into a relationship. Friend. It's also some thing that people feel like if you say, oh, I'm it's like they're being proud of who they are. But that pride also comes off as arrogance because you can't sit and think where can I change? Where can

I do better? And that's a big deal. Why a lot of people who have partnerships that aren't work our relationship excuse me? You know what I mean. You are a partner in a relationship, but somehow I gotta pull up with your bullshit. Yeah no, I'm cool on that. Get the funk away from me. If you're the same person, if you wake up the same person every day, get

away from me. What's something that your girlfriend's done to let you know that she's self aware, whether it be an argument or something early on, or we have I mean, I wouldn't say this one specific thing, but now we still have the blow ups like everyone else. We just scream at each other until you get your anger out. But the next day it's always Men are very simple. I'm gonna I'm gonna, I'm gonnain how men are simple. I'm gonna try to shift the conversation a bit. I'm

still going to answer the question. Men can choose a girl just by when they wake up after they if they still want you to be there. Men are very simple in that way. So with her, after I have the argument, I still want to be around you. That's a big thing For men. We're very simple. If we still want you there, that means a lot on brilliant idiots, he said after I funk, if I stole on you around, I know, I like you know. That's that's really how simple it is with men. There's a complex thing there,

but the idea is very simple. So her self awareness just comes from I know I'm not talking to a wall. I know she's going to take some accountability I'll take some accountability and we'll move on. The second thing you said is, um, you want someone who's objective. Can you elaborate? It goes back to self awareness, to be able to look at things without your feelings there, get your feelings out. I'm a very emotional person too, so I'll yell when

even if I'm wrong. Yea, But afterwards I need to be objective and realize, Hey, all right, I was just yelling that I was wrong there. Now you also put which I hated this outline ship you I'll really like do preproduction being was sold to her like we're already here. I feel like you. But the things that you picked are I mean, we did a list to them all too, and I like this list because these are things that

I felt like is very crucial to a relationship. The next thing you said is, I mean I can read them off if that makes you all feel better. Presence her own set of friends, a life outside of us, and motherly quality. So let's go right back to presence. What do you mean why she needs to have presence distance relationship like no, no, no, no no no no, I meant, uh, I guess energy was like I've always been drawn to women that walk in a room. And sometimes it's not like she's the prettiest girl in the

room or the most known girl in the room. There's certain women when you walk in it's like, oh, she just walked in the room. I find that very sexy about women. I see you was your presence of the word you used better than sounding shallow and saying she gotta be fine. Well, no, I'm shollowing that sense to I don't understand what people trying to do that bullshit. I think that I think people feel drunk about wanting

someone attractive sometimes like saying that they need that. What people do say like oh well you want someone that looks like this and blah blah blah. But to be realistic, relationships at last are the ones that attractive. But trust me, when you're talking about qualities and people talk about things they want to make for some reason, when they talk about attractiveness or things that are aesthetic, there's almost like this conversation about like, that's not such a big deal.

But in my eyes, if you're still attracted to each other from a long term perspective, you're gonna suck me all the time. You're gonna want me around, You're gonna feel like your wife is fine. Think about people to have been together for a long time, they sound to me like they still fun. And if we still fucking, it's because I want to fuck you. I like looking at you like this is a big deal. Like when me and my girl, we're not together, Like I guess

the first part of getting to know each other. Anytime we see it each other out event, I'd immediately go to her and we would not leave each other side for the whole ship. Like that's presence to me. Anytime she walked in, I was like, all right, let me go talk to her, and then we would never leave each other's hip for the whole party. So I think

that brought us to that next level. So presence is like really really big for me with women, and I think that's I think that's subjective to I don't think. I don't think every girl has presence to everybody, But I think, what do you mean by she's got to have her own set of friends? We need separation from each other. Yeah, I don't know if it's because I'm my only child, but I like to be alone, like you need to go out and do ship like we

both need to have whole separate worlds. You need to go do your thing and I need to do It's crazy that you say that as a guy, because I've been friends with so many um women that when they get into relationships, they now no longer have us as friends. They literally have a boyfriend and now you don't see her anymore. If we don't want to bring her boyfriends and sister, go hang with whoever. Just we need separation for both of us. It's not for people that share friends.

This is the problem. You get a lot of drama between the two. Right. So you let's say that you have a friend. Let's say you have a couple that your friends with another couple and you tell the wife something, then the wife tell the husband something. Then suddenly it's like, why am I talking to But this is not Couples are friends with other couples, and that ship happens, and

my lie, Chris, that ship is fucking real. People will share something with the wife and then it gets to the husband, and then the boys speak and it starts a whole thing. You don't have your own set of friends separate from the relationship. It's fucking I think I think you have to keep in mind where people's loyalty falls. Like, for example, if my girl meets some of my like, of course my girl's friends with my friends, Yeah, but

she still knows that those are my friends. Yeah, their loyalty will always fall on my side no matter how close they it, and vice versa, like if I'm super cool with her friends, I'm not looking to your friends to fall on my side all the time, right, or even for advice. If we break up tomorrow, my friends are coming with me, Yeah, they're not going with that. I mean, they'll be cool, but yeah, you need to

have that separation. And I think a lot of bitches will hit up homeboys and be like, O can you blah blah blah blah blah. That should have sucking trash. So I kind of wanted to steer this conversation. I wanted to ask you what makes a girl? And clearly this is all your opinion, but I think a lot of girls like to hear things like this, what in your mind makes a girl unwifeable? Like you guys talk about it a lot on on even your podcast with Maul will say, oh I can't I went on wife

a girl who does this? Or I wouldn't cup for a a girl who does this? What really complex? It is? Specific answer? What things kind of would make a girl unwifeable? Like? So one of the questions we asked um and I can't remember behave here at the end of the day. This is the question I wanted to ask you all at your at your podcast. If a girl has past or has sucked off on quite a few niggas, is that something that she should tell you in the beginning.

Is this something she should tell you at all? Is it something that you would have to be a problem with, because this is again a conversation I've heard y'all kind of touched on. But I mean, what's what the girls passed? How much do you care for a girl's past? And hypothetical as if I'm talking to a new woman, I'm twenty years old. I know you fucked, like I know you've been in these streets. Just tell me if it's something that's going to enter our world or something I

need a heads up on. Don't let me walk in a room and look stupid. Now, if she tells you she's fucked two guys in the room, say there are people that you do know? No, No, I'm not saying to the to the degree like if we walk in a room, you gotta pull me aside and be like, yo, I sucked them. That's like a really weird conversation. That would be really weird. But if it's gonna present itself where I have to interact with somebody or there's some closeness that me and this gentleman are going to have

to deal with each other, you mentioned it. What about from an industry perspective, Like let's say that you you're a podcaster, there's other podcasters. You meet a girl and she do you feel like she has to tell you that she might have sued one of the ops or you know, I don't have any ops podcast, but I know people cross side not shout out to Kid Fury for his show, Oh my God with the HBO deal.

Damn he list, And we were talking about it before the show, like we feel like, as other podcasters are entering different realms, that it's opening doors for the rest of us. And I'm not gonna lie. Even seeing you guys go on tour. Y'all did a whole East Coast tour and West Coast tour, and I'm like, yo, that could be us one day, like, I don't know four cities. You did two in Vegas in the same night. How the fuck. It's interesting because a lot of venues are

against it. They're like, what do you mean podcasts? They don't they don't know. And I don't want it for us to take the credit for the Highlane thing, because I know Highlan was already moving in a direction to really put podcasts on, but they was in a space at one point like you're gonna fill this whole place to talk, get the funk out of here. Wait seriously, so we I mean we did that high Line ship first for everyone after words, but I mean they was going that way. I'm not trying to flex to say

that we did that, but yeah, it takes. It takes. It takes a lot. It takes one podcast to prove to these people that podcasting is. Like so funny with Lanter and someone told me they were going to Sony Hall for a show. I said, oh, what podcast? He was like, no, it's a conserversa and it mean it made me think like wow, like you can fill up this place, um, and it was really humbling, Like Mandy and I both went to you Guys show in New York.

It was great. It was and I remember sitting there and feeling excited that people knew who we were in that space, and then I was thinking, like I was sitting next to Alex, I said, wait, we can feel this up. We could do this. It's a great feeling to like be somewhere where Motherfucker's is getting on stage just saying and you're just getting on stage talk to talk. I mean maybe they want to hear about cream pies, so I get that. But you know, we keep our

clothes on, yeah, we do. We don't do anything out the normal. I mean we did have a dick sucking contest that the first one with it wasn't with add I mean it wasn't what ad dick those with bananas. But I will say, like it's crazy being in this space to just shut you're laughing. I'm just happened. They were prompts and then they were like, hey, let's get someone from the audience and let's see who can put the most banana in their mouth. Um, you know, who

has the deepest throat um. But no, just seeing what you're doing and seeing what kid Fury just did and just the book deals, seeing the stuff that's been happening with Joe and you got your Malla like everybody in your face on T shirts. I see that ship like holy But you know what, I also appreciate it's like you built your brand first with your show and as to where you're big enough to now you can do things on your own, because this is a thing like

what can I am still horrible decisions weezy weezy. Really not anyone separate from this yet, and I have to be stands for horror, right, it does that stands for? But you know someone was asking me to do something, and it's like it's always going to be attached to horrible decisions. And the more that you grow, though, like yourself,

you will just be rory. And that's the thing with when you get so big like Fury, you know, as much as you like to do from the Red Furious Fury now And like Lena Waith, I remember watching Master of None and thinking like, I hope I see the Black Girl again. She's right, she's super hus um. So to close that ship, I think it's great. I think everything that Charlemagne does I love that he's still in the podcasting world. Because whatever he does, whatever Charlomagne does

well is good for everybody. Yeah. I remember when Elliott and Beata interviewed Hove. Nori had tweeted, this is a win for everybody, Like this is great that Hove realizes that this is the new way people want to consume their interviews, like what's his name? With the Will Smith interview, and it's all great. I know we joke about the podcast beef and Ship, like I know, people don't joke a lot about it. No, it's not real anything. I think at this point in this circle we have of

successful podcast. Anything someone does is good for everybody. And I want to see Alex. We're talking at our show and I was like, are they Yelena? They smiling? What's going on? And then I remember walking over here and I'm like, oh, yeah, neis me in France, you know. And it's like you really never know, but it's like there is still a lane for everyone. I listen to both people think Me and Andrew hate each other. We

held each other like which ship. Maybe we should edit this because I want people to think we hate each other. It's funny though, because you do bringing. It's kind of like when you do like the Tupac Worts, Biggie and the rap beef, like to know that there's real like podcast beef, like people and the comments I see, but did you hear what such and such set all through SoundCloud, all through YouTube, and I think it makes it fun though. I think it makes people want to go hear what

they're saying about you guys and vice versus. So I think it works for you know, I'm not gonna say who was. Somebody spoke to me today it was like, you foul, I'm like for having Rory on the nigga Like, are you kidding me? Go ahead? Who said it? Now? You need to I want to fight fight. That's now you're gonna think us whack. I don't want to fight. I don't want to fight. Wax is not the first

I mean. And that's the thing is I want people understand like this realm of podcasting, like if not to show love or be it, I mean even for y'all to come, for you to come here from all to come on our show, for things like that to happen. It's like showing love and it's very small, it's niche. I wouldn't I've turned down a lot of like going on podcast. Yeah, I haven't liked you, he had enough do saying and I was, so you're gonna come onto

my show. He's like, yeah, I'll come on. I was like, because I like you, and you know, remember when, um so at the time when we really didn't have a lot of lessons um mall and I'm saying that, by the way, we were still having like fifteen thousand. That's still decent for a podcasts that are like right right, So this is when Mall had first came on and he mentioned us, Yeah, we didn't have fifteen, which fifteen

after Brilliant Idiots, we were still like five thousand back then. Really, yes, no it's not it's not bad, but no, we were not out saying yet that was we had. He boosted us like and I'll say even just him shotting us out, but like, but you know, it's funny because that should feels like a long time ago. But on Joe but and he went on there, I mean on y'all show, excuse me and said something about the show he was on and I saw an iTunes that we just from

being on your saying we weren't even on there. It was at the end of your episode jumped so much. We we have that effect now on people to like there was a lot of people try to do this and they don't do it. Well, it's it's I'm having a seminar. It's not easy. It's not easy, So we're gonna go ahead. What we like to do on our episodes as well as have is have homemail. Homemail um is questions sent in from our listeners and we kind of just like to give them advice, whether we're right,

whether we're wrong. Some of our listeners like to give advice after the fact um. But I wanted to read off some of these. And this is actually sent in from a woman and the title is my boyfriend wants a trans woman. So I picked this because she actually went we should I know, but we ain't got through home. But no, it's good because she talked about going through his phone, so I want to talk about that's how she found out. She says, I'm a twenty two year

old female. I was recently engaged, but I broke off the engagement. I've known for some time now that he's had an interest in trans women, but I accepted it and only wanted him to talk to me about it when he had those urges. I found out after I came back from a trip recently that he had separate I G accounts two d M trans prostitutes to funk him in the ass. I've kept this secret for him, remember to do this, and as my email is full of you listen to my record. Yeah it's you know,

it's really, she said. I've kept this secret for him a very long time, but it's mentally fucking with me. On top of cheating with other women. He claims he's never actually gone through with the sex, but my feelings and better judgments say otherwise. He goes as far as asking if they will kiss him dearing. I recently told a homegirl of mine and she thinks he's gay. I'm not sure what to do. I love the man. I used to do anal stuff to him, but one day it kind of stopped when I tried. I hate how

I screench out this ship. Um Oh, I used to do anal stuff to him one day, but it kind of stopped when I tried to bring it up. He doesn't want to talk about it. He claims that he is going to therapy now to fix his issues with compulsive lying. But what should I do? I feel like less of a woman. I considered myself very sexually open, but I can't be that with him anymore. It's vanilla and I feel like he's getting his kink elsewhere. What

should I do? So? I brought this up because I know you guys have talked about women going through men's phones. She said that she found this out by going through his phone and seeing that he had a private I

G where he was sending these letters. Um. Also, when we spoke earlier on going from having your ass like two fingers to pegging, you did mention that not But I feel like, um for the for for saying that, maybe she's kind of blaming herself now because she felt like her anal gateway to playing with his ass, lad him to now seeking this pleasure from trans women. UM, I guess right, I know so many thoughts I've never had.

I've never had my ass looked and said, well, you know, it would be great a dick here, and so maybe maybe she should get out of her head about that. UM. I, for one, I do kind of feel like she needs to have a conversation with him because she found this on her own. This isn't a conversation he had with her. Um. She found it by going through his things. Um. And it does seem like she kind of is okay with the idea, but the fact that he's lying about it

is the problem. So here's the initial thing that I thought was like immediately, UM, let's start with this. Let's take all of our feelings of the gay ship out of it. If you're a man had a private i G to connect with women, would you stay with him? If the answer is yes, then there lies you needing to answer the other question. If it's no, which I wouldn't stay with someone I was making a private Instagram just to cheat on me and keep lying back and

forth and needs therapy for it. I would leave them if you feel as though you're a man, UM, you know doing the i G is okay, and you're like, not okay, but you know you're gonna look past this. Here's the other question. Do you have an issue with homophobia and your masculinity and that issue? And if you do, then you should leave them because the chances are as he's into anal play and you see him to be blaming yourself and it sounds like you think it's weird.

So I would just break up with him because I wouldn't want to be with anybody that thought my kinks had anything to do with me being a man, or me this or me that. Like it sounds like you need to go. Second thing I want to read, though, is something from Dan Savage, who is my personal guru podcast legend. A lot of white people, you know, maybe I'll don't, but he is lit, he's super smart, and

he has his own ship called the love Cast. And there was a question someone sent in about transit like dating trans women, and this is what he said, being funny, yeah, yeah, yeah. The gayest thing you could do is allow someone to put a dick in your man. But now you're gay. You're being a huge drama queen about the whole thing. Stop acting so crazy, As the kids say, repeat after me. One dick in the asked, does not a gay man make?

Look at it this way, The difference between having a woman's finger in your ass and a woman's dick in your ass is the matter of a degree. The woman's finger was fine to say nothing of the tongue. Why freak out about the female dick? Remember, if you're not sleeping with men. You're not attracted to men. You made an exception for this woman's dick because they're dip is exceptional because it's it's attached to a woman. So here's the thing with trans women. A lot of straight men

like trans women. A lot of trans women can't even find gay men that are into them because gay men want men. So here's the thing. Oh, I didn't even think about that. It's like, it's such an annoying thing to hear with like people calling men gay, Like the dick attached to the woman makes your anal and you're pegging thing real, But you're still attracted to women at

the end of the day. These trans women, right, they have a dick there and you like the anal play, but you're recognizing them as women because otherwise you would have wanted a guy to do it. And so that's the thing. Is your dude really gay? If you found no men in his phone, then probably he's not gay, But he does want to get sucked in his ask And if you're not gonna do it, he's gonna find someone that can. So if you can't figure it out and you're feeling weird about it, but you gotta let

him go. But the fact that he also when you want to talk about anal play, he veers away from the conversation. I will say, on the shape of it, well, and that's what I was gonna say. So on the episode that I had with the Swinging couple, Um, the man actually was interested in, you know, playing with trans And so I have a really close friend of mine who is experiencing his attraction to trans women and it's led him to be very depressed because now he does

He's like, am I bisexual? Now? Does that mean I'm gay? And does he like he's battling. No, but he's battling internally because it's something that he feels like he can't even bring up to his mom. He brought a white woman home and his mom went off. He's like, I couldn't imagine the look on my mother's face if I brought home. And the problem is a trans women are generally fetishized, like nobody wants to take these women home.

They're like, oh, this is just something I like. But here's the other fucking issue with it feeling like you're gay. If you genuinely are attracted to men, you are probably not going for a trans girl. I have never had one of my gays tell me they sucked the trans girl one. Because trans women are generally not bottoms. Most people that are attracted to trans women want to be pegged by straight women for I mean, I'm sorry, uh sis women first, right, and then they're like, okay, well

now I really want this. And that's the thing that's crazy about this homophobia about trans women, and they're still we were acknowledging them as women, we're using the pronoun sheet all of this ship. But for some reason, once men sleep with them, it's worse than paid because it's weird to be The guys that I do know personally who have slept with trans women, none of them have been topped by one though, So it's even to where

I've questioned them like what is your amusement with it? Then, because they're not being topped by these trans women, they're fucking the trans women in the ask Most trans women um that are like escorts are not um bottoms. They're like saying no, I mean not even talking about they don't have anal sex. That's the thing. Yeah, these things ain't have one. I'm calling me, I'll come in something game. Yeah, it's it's like people are really fucked in the head

about this. I think it's a conversation you just need to have. But this one, I think we could talk about. You have a relationship. So we have another one and that's gonna be our last homemail is from the Cupold couple. They made a separate email for this ship, so I know they would like we we really on alone. Hello, ladies. Just found the podcast and damn I love it. Very raw and truthful. We're a couple in Washington State who's been together since high school, fifteen years old, and now

we're both thirty eight. We have had an open relationship for ten years. She enjoys that. She enjoys having her boyfriends, but it's now craving black Dick. We have been searching, and I've been trying to find a guy. We've been searching. Wait, they've both been searching for black dick. By the way, I asked him later what their ethnicity was in their white You don't say I wanted to know if she's

just curious how the guy is searching. We have been searching, and I have been trying to find a guy to be her first in this arena. And it's not the easiest thing. The show makes us feel less alone and since none of our family and friends know we since none of our family and friends now, I hope you continue to have great success. PS. I would totally snowball

Rihanna with Shakira with another man's come snowball. Snowball is when it's not come swapping, it's your own semen, or it's like someone else's well, it's come swapping, basically snowballing passing it back in. But that's the colding thing, right because like in a lot of holding videos, you'll watch her be like, oh, the kids come off of me, or suck to come out of his dick like crazy shit. What was the question in that UM? I think his question is I was just trying to get something, just

trying to get some black Oh. I guess like kind of like maybe the how to UM because they're saying they're searching and it's not easy go to Jamaica, UM so I want to. I mean, I'm just saying, so I want to Hedonism, which is a um so. It's a nude adult only resort um in Jamaica. And when I went, there was a lot of white couples there that literally said to me that they were there for black dick, And of course Jamaican's are black with big dicks, so um, I would think you forgot which one said that.

You doubt what. I'm surprised. I ain't got no kids. You know, ship my daddy' Jamaican. I'm sure my mom was dealt with him for a reason, but because he ain't ship. But I would say, I would think that's just something that's in your Jamaican bloodl of Jamaican. Remember I said, dancing niggasine ship caplas in Jamaicans and the I'm just saying they just don't they're only ship. I would say, though, if you're looking for something to do, I don't know what city you live in, So my

suggestion would be to um, go to hedonism. It is again, it's a resort in Jamaica, and that's what you have there is black cocks to fuck your white wife. I had something like that happened to me. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, you had something like we talked about it and we did on it in Chicago, and I was like, you did what I said, you need to bring it up. We gotta bring you on the podcast. You gotta say, So, you've been to w w C White White Cock is the w WC. Is that on Pornhub? Does w w

C Papa? Never? If you look up cut holding? Like, so, actually I wanted to watch cut holding porn, but I got kept getting annoyed at all the fetishizing of black men. So I'm like, so, I'm like, let me try to find the white man. And you were asked to cut cold, so I wasn't asked. Nobody asked me. Okay, wait, nobody asked, So what happened with your cut holding story? I was like, I told this on my podcast, but it was a long like back when we was in the lower numbers,

so I don't know. Um, sucking asshole. Oh, you're definitely dubbing this ship when y'all required. Because I'm setting a reminder. Nick put me on what happened. I was like twenty or twenty one maybe, and I was working for a label at the time, and these artists from Ohio. I'm not going to say who it was. It was not Busy Bone, was Busy Bone and his wife. It was

from Ohio. They came and uh, they asked me. They was like, yo, can you take the whole crew out because you're young and you know what's going on in New York, Like take them out, let them see the city. It was a big group of them, so I took them down to a spot one bleaker. We was chilling whatever, and some girl that really didn't say much at all the whole time came up to me when she was leaving and she was like, I just want to give you my number. I was like, all right, cool. I

didn't think anything of it. Continued tonight, she text me like, yo, it's my hotel. I said, all right, I'm okay, I'm coming over with the ships. So I take a cab. This was prior to Uber. Take a cab up there, like you know, I'm in the lobby. She said, give me a second now that I'm red flag. I told you I was on the way. So then I get to the elevator when she says, come up. I see it's the key card thing. I'm like, all right, you gotta come down and get me. She comes down and

like a rope. I'm like all right. She read a little crazy that you in the lobby, like you let it be known. So we get into the room. She take a shut off right away. I'm like, oh, we're get into it. This is great. This is like a portal. This was awesome. So she starts sucking my dick. I was like, this is this is straight out of like I didn't even have to work for this. I said one word to the ship, this is awesome. Wow. Then

I slightly see the bathroom door start to open. You thought another girl from where I'm from, right that you you can't set up about to get I'm about to get robbed. She was a pond in my dumb old ask fell for that ship because I'm horny. It might be worth three. You don't know you broke out. I don't know your weight, and it's been like all the families are worse. Let's let's end that now we all don't know a judge in fact. Okay, So the door opens.

I said, I'm getting robbed. It's over. Now. Let me start. Where's where's my wallet? Take my iPhone? Three? So I see just arms come out with an iPad and I'm like, wait, what the fuck? So I pushed her head off of me, which kind of hurt when you twenty and horny because she was all right, and this big gass dude comes out the bathroom with an iPad and I said, there was another white couple. No, they were black. Both of them were black. Oh both were black. Did you love

that detail out? No? We needed it, We needed that. We just all. I guess we should have said your friends, well, they weren't my friends people that okay. So so he comes out, this big dude comes out with an iPad filming, and I'm like, yo, what the fuck is going on? And he's like, no, no, no no, bro, you could suck her. I said what. So I go up to him and I said, give me that fucking iPad. He say, no, no, no no, it's cool, bro, Like it's fine, that's my wife.

I said, what if he didn't come out with an iPad? What was it the recording that bothered you know, the man coming out of a bathroom bothered me? Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on? What wait? I guess more so it's like continuing, is it what she meant? Like? If he didn't come out with the iPad with that, Bobby like to keep going? You just wasn't. I feel like what happened was he was like, no, no, no,

that's my wife like this is what we do. You could like I want you to fuck her and I was like no, He's like, no, it's not like I'm gonna get involved. I just want to watch your fuck. I was like, give me that fucking iPad, took the iPad open, that ship, deleted that video, threw that ship on the bed, and ran the funk out of that hotel room. No, nope, nope, nope, nope nope. So it's safe to say you're not into cuckolding or at this day and age, that's not that's a that's a surprise.

That's a man coming out of the bathroom like you getting your dicks, honestly, like and I still had like that nervousness of getting robbed. Now you were still you were super violated. Not only where you did someone surprise you as someone else, but was inside my I didn't have a dick at that point? Did they go up? The balls inside? He was terrified? What is it? You know what happens when your balls like go up and then like they have to fall back down? Is that

how your dick win? Answer? I think, you know, you know how people say their balls get up there and then they have to like drop back. I don't know, children, have you ever heard this? I've never heard of it. I heard that your balls can like get up too high and then like it takes a minute for them to like settle down like your testicles, like we have two men in the room. Has never happened, and I've never heard of this happening. I was reading about it in what book? Well, I was I was trying to

find that kink. And the kink I was trying to find was about like the kicking, which we've already done. But the sensation apparently from your balls going up is the thing that people like, a sensation that you get when your balls go back up when they started, like think they know it's like the most painful when you get when they get kicked in up there. I know, but apparently some people, some people like it, people asking I was trying to figure out what that's how I

found it. Look, I'm not a girl like the Nancy room for like section was I didn't. I do not have sex. But you know her, I mean, I don't know where she is now, but imagine she's probably not to ask guys to burn like that was that was her thing when she sucked. She liked cigarettes being burnt on her well, and she had scared. I could see the stars in her arm. That's like with Lisa's flips and people she ashes them in people's um mouth. She's

a dumb. Yeah, she's a dumb that does that. But I feel like if a woman is wanting to be asked wall getting no, not ash, No, the whole cigarette burnt. That's not ash, that's a cigarette being burney. She had scars on her forum. I mean, I can understand candle wax, but yeah, I don't know about no goddamn cigarettes. I recently did a candle wax thing. I liked it, but it was a special sex candle apparently to where it wasn't like od burning. Well, yeah, it wasn't like you

can't just use any candle. Oh yeah, because that should be like you said, it can't be Yankee, can't be it can't be glade. Please please let them never accidentally. I mean no, no, no, no, I mean it could still some people still want it to be that hot. But the sex candle that I use apparently was like it dripped slower, so it wasn't as like you know, it's supposed to feel like a sting, but I really enjoyed it was on my back. I guess that that's

that's a good tip. I guess to get to our listeners if anyone is interested in maybe candle wax plate to know that there is actual sex candles to look at, and maybe don't go the cheap router or the expensive rod and get Yankee candle. Yeah, use our code w D fifty. Yeah, there you got him and oh Yankee candle on it. I'm beaning mica a cross fell like a lemon grass mat. Oh, in your little pre production, we were supposed to make women accountable. Now, wasn't that

part of your list? We were going to make women accountable for things? Oh, we didn't do it anymore. So I just we just got rid of that, you know, you know you you came and brought up the whole Oh, y'all are really a production. So we said we're just gonna wing it now, we're just gonna talk. I wanted to talk about that, about making a women accountable among women being bummy, so that we had our conversation was, yes,

was about that. So like, Okay, there's something that I've been wanting to talk about because I feel like I'm gonna sound like a little bit of hypocrites. I'm gonna try to make sure backstep we talked about like dating men that are fluent and you know, getting things quote unquote from men. But I have to say I am kind of tired of like chicks don't have ship that

be requesting all of these things. Now. I do want to speak from I want to speak from me and Mandy though, and say that, like, you know, we're girls that are working towards why. I mean, now you're graduated, but you know, I take care of me, myself, my family, We got a business, I'm working in tech. Like this is a lot of sucking ship. And I kind of hate that a girl that don't really have much going on feels like like a man can feel like we're

on the same playing field. I feel like my standards are set because this is what I've set for myself. So how could you not have the same Opposed to when someone says something to me like, oh, y'all, bitches just want any negative blah blah blah blah blah, how could I not when I've done this for me? How could I not ask to do these things for me more mad at men. We need better standards. Sure, stop stop fucking bummy women. Yes that I hear you. I

think bummy nous is sexually transmitted. Stop fucking. But it's not fucking fair though, because this is the thing. When I was in a relationship and had nothing for myself and then Nigga got crazy and was cheating, I had nothing for me. You know. He literally was like, you can take what you came with. I was one for two years. Take what I came with, which was clothed. Okay. I was in a maserati, living nice, eating nice, and

then like boom, I had nothing. So then when I was dating men after that, right, I kept thinking in my head I needed to have this, this and that and treat me this way. But I didn't really have my ship together, and I was asking for so many things for men that frankly, I could not easily get

by myself. And so here's the thing. The the assumption that every girl and and a lot of people got on Raquel, who's an escort, sorry, a sex there a piste and she escorts, she's a sex worker, and she was saying how she needed certain things from a man and niggas was coming for her. However, if I can get these things by myself, why can't I ask for you to do the same for me if I got them on my own. No, that's fine, I agree. I think men need to think that same way. It's it's

dudes fault that be blaming these bitches. You're the one who I'm super super big on energy, Like energy is a big thing to me, and I think sex creates a large amount of it. Don't do that with bummy ass energy. It's gonna come off on you. You're you're entering bummy nous. It's gonna come back. Absolutely. I don't care if her pussy is crazy. Here's my thing because some people are some people, some people make it it. I don't want to make this like an age that

we're not. We're talking about partnerships and ship like that. I'm not talking about a girl that's got to do that, like you know, taking out on dates and shouldn't be treating it right. If I'm talking about in a relationship expectations. Some people make it at twenty, some people make it a thirties, some people make it at forty. I'm not even trying to put it in that type of stens on who's ambitious who's not. But in your late twenties, you know who's a bummer who's not. Yeah, you can

tell when a chick is bummy or not. Stop, Like, come on, if you really are in this mindset of making yourself better, sticking your dick into a bummy chick, I don't care how good the pussy feels is going to detriment you or even stop woman dealing with a broke nigger. And I feel like that's like, Um, it's funny because I listened back to our episode with Um Demeris and how I was talking about Felling Bay. I actually stopped dealing with Fellen Bay. I had to cut

him off. He decided to bring i'll say a business notion to me because as he was telling me his business idea and his business plan, he when I started asking him the real questions about how he would account for the money he was bringing in, he was like, Oh, you're gonna do it. You got some nerves, you got it. And when I tell you my whole pussy dried up, I was like, Okay, here you go. I'm thinking you're trying to make yourself better and yet you really not

go mean, was he expecting to share the business with you? No? But he just thought I was saying and I was like no. And then he has the nervous that here and think that because then that he would be making money, that then I would want him, because you know, I haven't told him he broke. Now, that's why I'm not gonna cut him. So he assumed that when he got money then I would want him as more. And it's just my whole pussy dried up because it's like we're damn at the same age. So broke to me, We've

had this conversation. So broke to me, honestly is like the regular nigga jobs under I mean to me, I don't want a guy making thirty five thousand. I don't want a guy making fifty thousand, especially if his children like maybe fifty tho by yourself and you're like keeping up with yourself cool. Maybe in Florida, not in New York, and New York probably less than seventy or probably kind of all right, So are you, as women comfortable calling a man broke that makes more money than you? I

heard y'all talk about that. I'm not saying I'm not saying I don't thought that. I don't think y'all make Let's revisit that one. You don't make thirty dollars a year. Who are the funk? Are you somebody broke? I don't have you said, I don't remember I vis you or whoever brought it up. You said, women be calling niggas broke that make more money than No, no no, no, no, Rory,

I actually agree with you. Rory said that a woman will always think a guy is broke as long as she knows a guy with more money than That's what you said, and I will always be broke if you can text somebody that has more money, that has more money than me. And I loved when he said that because I was like, but I don't think it's I don't think it's right. But that's what they don't. Never

that will never change. I'll always be broken. There'll always be somebody a girl my friends, and they'll be talking to maybe someone who comes off the bench who only makes a million a year, and then they'll know another guy who's making like twenty million a year, so it's like you're only talking to that nigga with a million

dollars a year. People love shaving like girls. I liked that broke conversation because the money I make now, So before we started, before I started making what I'm making, right, when we first started this pod, I was like, I have to be with a dude that makes six figures because I make six figures. Now have a new job and I'm making more money, and I'm like, I'm not. I might not meet somebody that makes some I make, and I have to change my mind. And that's the truth.

And I had to grow up because I feel like I was real like, oh, you gotta have this, this and this, and frankly I might not. It's just it's not the average meeting income and it might be very hard unless I'm doing a bank or something like that I don't know right, or entertainers or whatever. If I meet a regular dude, how can you make what I make? Right? So here's the thing. You gotta humble yourself sometimes women do to say, because for me, this is the thing.

I want a man that can enjoy the things that I enjoy with me. I like to go eat steaks, I like to go on vacation. I ain't talking about the Miami I like to go to Tokyo tailing all that ship Croatia. Yeah, week, I need to go. You don't have to pay for me, but you need to be able to come with me without me paying for you. I don't need you to pay for my vacation. And

I am and I am being honest with that. And I frankly, when I was going to Tokyo, I was I was talking to loverabley at the time that there was a dude. I was like, you want to know, But I asked me if you wanted to him, and he was like, I can't do all that, And I was just like, okay, well, how how can I do this? If I want to get up and go somewhere. If somebody can't match me on that, then that to me, I can't handle. And I'm not gonna go as far well, I'm not big on I am big on potential to

an extent I can't stand. I don't know where y'all at your ages with potential? Well, and and that's what So that's my thing like, because we're entering into an age where potential is yeah, and how many years I gonna take you? I'm about to be years old. Like I can't sit here and help a guy grow or raise a man. Or you're telling me of an idea that's not anywhere put even into fruition, or even when you talk about broke, I think broke is a mentality

or mindset. If I meet a guy and say he's working no, no, no. But if you're working at say no, Well, if you're working at say a FedEx or something like that, and I meet you and you're working at FedEx? To me, I want, can we stop? I know, can we stop slandering? I think big started this? Can we stop slandering? Ups? And I mean it's problem? No, you know much Garbageman maker, No, they make like six figures in New York. They do.

But to me, like, if you're in a situation where you're okay or content with making measily money, where you're living check to check, or you're not able to travel or do the things you want to do. To me, if you're a guy who isn't looking for a promotion, who isn't looking for a better job, who's not in school to better your education to be able to apply it better positions, and you're just okay with making what you're making and hoping you get a raise every year.

To me, that's a broke mentality. Well, me, you're okay with making I don't know, because a lot of people don't have no I mean, if you got mad, like people are going to college and still can't pay that, that that ship off for a while, right, I mean, like, really, what money do you have? We could save motherfucker's ain't broke. But like Sally maybe says you is. I mean, if you don't own nobody money, you can easily end on that phone call and the and that's the thing. Like,

so I can't I don't know. I can't say that someone that's comfortable with making their money and then waiting for a raison has a broke mentality, because this is the thing. If you're living comfortably, you and I like to travel, Mandy, we gotta do ship. He's talking about what we look for in partners. But that's not a broke mentality. Is to someone someone who wants to to see more in the world. And I feel like it broadens a person's a person's knowledge, their experiences. They're able

to look at things differently. And so for me, being a woman who is well traveled and has traveled the world. I want a guy who wants to do that. A guy can't want to do that if he thinks that it costs a whole lot of money. Like I don't want a guy who thinks going to Miami is a fucking me neither. That's like going applebe taking a bitch to Miami for a birthday, like going Apple? What is that? By the way, this year, I went to Miami for

my birthday and I told my friends. I was like, we have to say at the Montre and we have to eat somewhere really nice because I just realized what I did. I really wanted to be here because the snow in New York. But like, bro I feel like above how But this is the thing. I just don't want to say that someone as a broke mentality because they're comfortable with they're making because honestly, my lifestyle requires

way more money. I take care of myself and to other adults, I have to make more money, but some people can't with women that Coleman broke, that are broke. Yeah, I know, and I don't told you though. That was me for a very long time as a bartender, and that came from me. Just like you said, I had guys in my phone who had a whole lot of money, And so we got to the point where in my mind broke making some money, no, but not some of it. Some of it, but there's not all bartenders and making

money like not all. But I had ends announced, but I still wasn't making probably more than any given year depending Okay, I don't know, say that's bartending. So that's what I'm saying. Well, I wasn't bartending every day. I

had summer gigs like, but that's what I'm saying. And there were times that because I had guys on my phone who had a lot of money, I would look at guys like you broke, and I know that maybe they even made more money than me, and I still looked at them as broke because of the access of guys that I had and the things that I was used to and being accommodated as far as getting flown out, being put in the nice hotels, eating at the nicest restaurants.

So even just me having that experience with guys with money, I would look at niggas with my broke ass and call them broke. So I was that girl, but I mean we were younger too, and I think that I don't know if really women. I mean, I'm sure they are, but I feel like the older we get, the more we get into our later twenties and still is broken and they probably make more to me, so that hasn't changed. If you live with a guy, would you pay for

a bill? I'll pay for the lace had this conversation already utilities, but I was just talking with my friend about that her deal with her boyfriend just bought a house, um, and I was like, so is your name on it? And she's like, no, but we split the rent. And I was like, you're paying for half of what hold on, hold on, hold on. He works with the government, but it doesn't matter. She makes money regardless. Why are you paying half of a mortgage on a house that your

name is nowhere? Are in so at any given time, even if you're paying him that money And he says, get out, that's what I said, it's it's rent whatever. No, it's not rentage mortgage. Now she would pay rent. I would gonna say she would pay rent if she lives somewhere else. I feel like I would be real. I think that if your parent rents splitting It depends, right, If I was dating someone that was making let's say sixty five, they can't pay for all the rent in

New York. They can't. And if that's the person I'll be with, I can't expect them too. I am just speaking from me expecting that I'll meet someone that's making what I make. I know they can handle a rent, but like, bro, my rent by myself once to utilities and my gas and my heat, my rents three grant, I mean it is like, how can I not expect someone making that money? Actually, I'll be real with you. I've been like fantastizing about it. I'm like, okay, I

gotta keep it sack. If I keep your so and so, I ain't leaving my apartment because it's a ship, so they're gonna move in here and it can't pay three ran Like, I mean, what it's It's true? I mean, my thing, what would that have perception of it? Because I've been on my own for so long that I already have in my DNA that I'm paying all my bills, Like I don't have the split the bill mentality because

I've literally lived by myself for so fucking long. So yeah, if my girl moved in, I would never It wouldn't be that conversation. I would just think, no, no, this is the place I live. I pay these bills. If you look at her differently, if she didn't offer to help, no, no, I could see how. I guess some people would. But my mentality, it's just I paid for myself. So I feel resentment though, So I want to tell you all something I know about a millionaire that I know who

lives on Parking Something. Been with this girl for seven years and for some reason he's starting to get a little resentment towards her. There is about seven thousand he is asking her for seven dollars a month and she flipped. He said, is it a test? So he doesn't he

doesn't need. So he told me that he feels like and this is what I mean by resentment has Obviously it doesn't have to do with money, but he says that he's felt like throughout the course of their relationship, she never makes an effort and to contribute into what they have together. And he says that he's tired of feeling like he is the only one that sacrifices. Right, he works so much. He's not an athlete, he's not

an entertainer. He is worked. I'm just saying, like, I'm just saying, he doesn't have a lot of free time. He's working in the sixty seventy hours a week. So I told him I thought what he did was petty. And then he said, unless there was a test or something I do, I thought it was very petty. And then he said, well, what else am I supposed to do to feel like my girl gives a ship about what we have together? What could I have done clean

and cook for him? Like? Does she not do the things as a woman would probably do who's not responsible to pay? But she works just she works about fourty hours a week, so there's probably an unappreciation. So I said, I think this is why, and this is why I've always felt like I was a decent partner, even when millionaires and a lot of my I think you've told

me like I'll be bugging for paying for dinners. But I really like showing my gratitude towards men with money with meals and drinks and things like that, because I feel like it shows you that not him only am I just like just along for the ride or whatever. But like here I am and I can do this too. Don't forget it, you know, because I understand when you're with someone that's very financially stable, they're just expecting bitches

to take it. And I always had men telling me, especially when I walk in their homes with a gift, whether the cigars or just like he brought the wine, like nobody ever brings me anything. No one's ever brought me something to my house. Sometimes they're being sage to do his house. I was sucking his one day and I brought him skittles and he liked that I brought

him skittles. You have to because my girl, I would always pick up any check if it came to that without me even knowing paid for it, came to me with gifts that I didn't have, like there's a way to do it if you're paying. Not to say I am because we don't live together, but she picks up a lot of things that I don't ask her to do, which I have the same relationship with my friends too, Like if we're all eating, someone to just grab the chick. It's not it's not that big of a do. Like

my girls the same way to do that. I got it, but I got it. Don't worry about it, my girl. My girl's definitely but basic. She knows no matter what, I'll cover it. But she's not pressed. She'll go pay that ship right away. Have you do you mind that's something attractive with your girl or that's have you ever noticed that like women picking up? Do you like that? Talk like I want to talk? Are you? Are you a regular dude? Well? I was raised by nothing but women.

So if we're like on a first date or even up to date, up to date ten, I'm always going to pick that up. But in a relationship and so many years, and yeah, I think it's dope that my girl is financially stable enough to just be like, you know, I got that. Have you ever noticed, never offered? Has it ever bothered you? Uh? Yeah I have. But that went back to my bum chick theory. I need to stop sticking my dick now. Let's I want to ask this one thing that we asked for Andrew and Wax

about the ubers. And Andrew was like, nah, you gotta get your own ship. I mean, if I'm sending you home, but who's gonna ask me for uber? To me how do you feel about sending ubers for dates to the wherever the location we're going something like that, or like come into your place, like are you I mean, if it's not really brought up. But then again, I would look at her weird if she was like, oh, you can get me there. It's New York though, so it's different,

different if you're different. Yeah, I can't really call it. Like if I was in Atlanta and she didn't have a car, I might bring up like yo, like you need a uber or something to get there? No, not yeah, don't have a car Atlanta, Atlanta, I might like say, yo, you need a uber or something. But in New York we take the train like it's yeah, I don't know. Yeah,

that's hard to answer in New York. I feel like sometimes for me, like I've always had men offer after which I appreciate um, Like I usually uber uber home yeah yeah, yeah, after I'm at home, and that's a safety issue. I don't want you getting on the train and I don't want the last person, especially like I don't know where you live, like yeah, it could be

a while. Ye I agree with that. I agree. I mean I think it's just weird, like Dating in New York is much different than dating in a lot of other cities, like because in other cities, it's the gesture of does he pick me up? Do I meet him there? Yeah? It's like you don't really have people picking you up for dates in real life because so many people don't have cars. It's just even if they being from New York, picking somebody up for a date is the weirdest thing, like, wait,

I'm picking you up? The date once in New York and I thought either he got a lot of money or none because he lived in Jersey. He lived in Jersey. I was about to say Jersey. But the Niggers in Jersey got cars. They just lives mad far and like so. And I was joking about it the first time. I like, I do they head of car? And I was like, wow, you admit her what a car? He's rich. I had a car and I got rid of that ship. I was like, this is collecting Porkin in New Jersey, it

was still collecting. But I live in Jersey City and I live above the bath Ring, so it's like, why to come over. I know where you live in I have in your girl car for us. Right, She's gonna find us. She's gonna find us. But um, I'm thank you so much, I guess Roy for coming on to our show. You guys have not um listened yet, please tune in. A lot of you probably came from the Joe, but I think everyone listens to the job but the podcast now. But if you don't, it's a really good show.

It could use y'all could use some more listening. I mean to be honest. We have a lot of female listeners. And I will tell y'all, I actually just started listening to your podcast this year. I picked certain faithfully. I picked certain episodes that I want. I know you listen all the time. I listened like this podcast sometimes I have to cut it off. No, I'm not gonna lie. I listened to the ones that I like. I didn't work for a month and a half, and I felt

I fell off on Brilliant Idiots and the Reading. A lot of the other podcasts I listened to, No but I know, but coming you fell No, No, No, and well notw that I'm back working, I listen. But I will say faithfully, I listened to y'all every week, even if I was on the plane, if I was on the train. Somehow I managed to still listen to you

guys weekly, so I really enjoy your podcast. I actually used to just only like pick some and then for some reason, I don't know which one it was that got me and I was like, you know what, I'm gonna listen to every single one and and now I love it. It's a part of my repertoire to sit through y'all niggas be so long it takes me a day. Dude, then three hour episodes be killing me. I need we used to do and yeah, but I just want y'all to know, as much as y'all may kill us, we

ain't ever doing. To be fair, it's good. It's good content. This has been recording. I didn't say talk about it, and it was a drake. I was like, y'all did such a good job that I sex that and the way y'all like bitches love now stop, I'm like, wait, we really great episode. See Roy, this is now I'm convinced you make the episodes long. But the Joe but the podcast he had a drinking for Yeah, but we're about to do I'm not about to go to the spa.

And I actually have another podcast that I'm going to be on, right, I know, I am going to the spot um Spot cast a little premiere fifty seven in the city. I went there, so, yeah, yo, let me tell you something about podcast. I got to me she's keep it going, premiere fifty seven. It's something I found super nice. So I posted them there. Right. One of our listeners is like, yo, fan of the show. My ex man is in there with his new bitch. Can

you take a picture. I was like yeah, I was like all the black people there and I was like so much right right, I guess where else can our listeners find you? Boy? I'm on Twitter? Okay, we'll give them your Twitter better know who I am already. This is Rory. We're do say pelluses in Detroit August eleventh. Yeah, we're in Philly from made An America Weekend, which is the last weekend of August, and then more dates are coming. Okay, York,

I have not been to be could you trash? You know I've been about not you know what I'm saying. I didn't know. It was super good time, So I appreciate you not going to talk about the hashtag I created for you know, funk your hashtag. What is it? We were in l A there all star we here and what was it? Let him hit? Let's let Chris kill? No, let Chris Chris. Chris one of my best friends. He's the host of No. We're just friends and so we're

just super cool, super cool friends. I was on my live and I started a campaign of Chris kill because they was getting real cuddly in the side bro I was drunk. We was just chilling. But I could be friends without giving them pussy friend. We weren't cuddling, we were sitting drinking. I was not cutting Chris hashtag. Next one might be let cavs because I went to h the anthony with Alex and Cas. Alex was like, I see you bitch. I was like, you know, he got

somebody ain't doing, played way too much. And then of course his whole live because you know he's popping, so you have like three hundred motherfuckers in there, they're all just like doing the hashtag. I'm like, see you play some motherfucking much Like why not? He just plays too much, way too much, And I don't have time for that ship, you know what. I feel like, as much as I want to in the industry. Right now, I feel like because we've grown on our own without industry, this word

podcast industry celebrities though we're not celebt podcast industry. You know, as much as like I'm meeting where people in this ship, I'd be like, I guess I can't. Fuck you know you can't, definitely can. I mean again, I want to give a super shout out to our patrons um who support our episodes and our shows. And just so you know, if you have tuned into all of our episodes this is now, probably were almost approaching eight, but I want to let you know that we dropped too bonus episodes

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a girl being they're not cutting that playing. Okay, I turned it, but my point is we had a girl on the talked about a girl being sun by wine bottle, and all I could do is hold this ship and think like how far maybe it was this they get to calories per serving, because bro, this is thick. I'm done. Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't fit that in my asshole or pussy. But anyways, we're both like anyways, I just want to say not to damp for the mood. I can't come in this place and I get said rest in peace,

Combat Jack and everything that he's built. I love Reggie. I'm gonna get emotional again, but every time I come in the engine room, I get really sad. Really you are looking at I love. I loved combat that was my mayor. So rest in peace, Combat Jack, thank you for everything that you did. Can't be in the engine room without bringing you up or being on allowed Speaker Network podcast. Thank you. Shout out to network to be one for he let come on his vision, left this

whole ship. None of us were doing this if it wasn't for fucking Combat Jack. So shout out Reggie and his whole family shout out. And again, well this has been another episode of horrible decisions. Bye bye,