Ep54: Stripper Strike Feat Gizelle Marie

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my friends from episode was twenty nine. I don't know. James lives in Florida. He hits me up today, sends me an article about you and he's like, yo, y'all gotta have this girl on the show. So I'm like, nah, like I'm reading it helpins in posts and why this

blah blah blah ain't coming. The second I told you, She's like yes, where I was like so happy, um, And it was a huge tagline about um, you guys have maybe seeing the stripper strike or star tenders versus strippers, and it's funny a lot of our listeners have actually wanted us to bring a stripper or adult dancer on the show, even though we talk about a lot of sex and technically what you do isn't sex. It's okay, I like that, So we've had people wanted to bring

you on. So I think it's this is super fitting for I'm gonna tell you was worried about having a stripper and we had a point star and she was so dope and she loved her job. I was worried about a stripper coming on and making all strippers look bad because I didn't want her to be like I did this and I just spend my money on Like I just scared, We're gonna find this ratchet Instagram stripper that just one ship. Now, please but explain to me

that what is But you know, she's her own individual. Well, I'm gonna say this. We have a lot of people that listens, and I don't want them to ever judge. And I feel like if you bring someone on that's not articulate and that's talking ship and it's just being a little too crazy and whatever, you'd be surprised how many educated strippers are there. But I don't think that's the strippers that we ever get to see or what

we think. Yeah, we do have a really big stigma, so right, but at the end of the day, was still human. So I'm pretty sure you could find a lot of There's a lot of them, and I think that, well, you never know who I mean, and I'm friends with a lot of girls, and that's the thing, you know, we could have brought someone on. It was just frankly like whack. And that's what I was kind worried about. So to read about you and your activism and what

you're doing, it is activism. And as much as people want to say like it's I've seen a lot of shitty comments about this, of course, and um, this is activism. It's woman's rights, female rights, equal rights. I mean, I think it's amazing. Um, So I want to dig into what that is. But that's why I'm just so pleased that out of any adult entertainment we could have had on that strips that it's you. So I'm really happy and thank you for coming. So yeah, tell our listeners

your name and my name is Jessoe Marie. Um, I'm a stripper in New York. You know, I roll because yeah, because I'm a little bit upset with New York. But you know, they're not understanding, but now they are. You know why I'm pushing so hard for you know, in the beginning, it was something that was a joke to people, and I was really serious. You know, people have their own like, um, I say, they feel like I did

this for attention. It wasn't really about attention. It was really about what people need to understand and be aware of what we go through. Yeah, well not only that, what stripping is how you put food on the table and how you pay your bills. And it's your job. And it's crazy because people don't look at other strikes that way. If people, if unions are out fighting for

higher pay, pair wages and everything like that. So for you to say that people took it as a joke, it's like people still have to realize it's still a job at the end of the day, you know. Yeah. I actually recently was talking to a girl that dances and we were talking about her maternity leave and she was talking about ready. We had this conversation so well,

I yeah you feel Yeah. Well I was talking to her and I was just like, actually, she was asking me these questions kind of like PTO and maternity leave, and I was like, strippers are like an individual like subcontractors, their independent contract. So there's no benefits attached to You're using your body. Yeah you know that. No, no, but that's the same as if if I'm a bartender, because I have bartender for seven years, if I'm a bartender, and I agreed to make tips. With at minimum wage

plus tips, I don't get benefits. Bartenders don't give benefits unless you work for like a hotel. If I'm working at a club, if I choose to work in that, in that environment, I'm not getting benefits. I understand that they don't know. What I'm saying is that to me makes no sense. She puts herself more at risk than I do. Sitting at a desk all day. She's using her yeah, her body right and her mind. I mean,

it's a lot more physical work. Not to mention like I'm just I don't really interact with as many people as she does. Like you, You're way more at risk physical harm from other people, not just to what she could do herself from dancing and doing work. I think that I think it's more so looking into the line of just being an independent contractor period, because you could be doing construction, you could be working at an office.

If you're an independent contractor, you don't even like nine times out of ten, you're responsible even for your own taxes. So I think it's more of a look into deciding to be an independent contract and the benefits that you've

received at that. More so, I think than stripping. The reason I guess, like to me, I feel like strippers deserve more benefits is because if I'm employed by a certain company, whether let's say it's Starletts, I feel like certain strip clubs should be protecting their employees better, Like just think about physical harm from men when stripping, or

like them getting too aggressive and abrasive. Like I feel like if I'm putting my self on the line and niggas is coming to see me and I'm making money for you, you need to have more protection for me and women don't have that. It's funny though, I worked at Starlett's and a lot of these clubs, girl, they knew my Instagram and my nickname. I didn't sign any paper, they didn't have my social didn't know my address. I

came in there and worked. I worked Friday, Thursday, Friday, and Saturday nights the nights with no promoter, with with the promoters, and they knew my instagram. But we were in a group. Because that's kinds yourself a lot of I mean, dude, what if you got in a fight or someone hits you over ahead with something a fucking bar fight in Starletts. What if that happen. Yeah, you don't get You're not gonna get used at the club. I'm working for you. I'm making this money for you.

I deserve some kind of fucking benefits or secure even glass breaking on the floor and you actually accidentally like kneeling down and getting cut for picking up your money. You know you get nothing for that, right. That's especially when you're the reason that people come to the clubs. I think I don't eve a independent contract or not. I think that more clubs need to be giving some

of these girls insurance ship like that. And I also had this argument too with a friend's boyfriend was like, bullshit, you want to do that job? Blah. I agree with a boyfriend. I agree with a boyfriend on that. To me as and like I said, I tried dancing one time. It wasn't for me, but I still stayed in the clubs and bar attended and I chose, which is why my dad always was like, it's not a real job. He said, it wasn't a real job, Like let me

know when you get a real job. Because I was choosing to make cash every night instead of filling out a W nine and letting them know all of my tax information and stuff like that. To me, it is a choice. And to me, it's not an industry that's gonna change. I don't think. Um, I mean you're working changes within the industry. It's just it's something that has to be unified within the whole country. You know. Like certain clubs, like in other cities, they do pay their dancers.

They I'm not really sure about what the benefits. I know, Um, what was it uma that club? Is that not all spinning RNAL pays there? Um, well that's good. Their their dancers too, And then do you know what they pay them or how that wage? You know? Okay, so and if it's a tipped minimum wage, so nine times out of time, it would be about five dollars an hour because their minimum wage now it's probably higher because at the time when I last checked it was like this

was like a couple of years ago. When I was dancing, it was like seven seven something. It's like a but that makes sense because I mean, what if like there's a few slow hours are coming earlier and I'm not making money. I'm just really sitting here there right. Um, well, let's start before because we get into like all the questions we have for you about that. We have an icebreaker just to get to know you a little bit, and I'm sorry if it feels little much. He would

you rather? He asked? Or like toes? Damn? This is a common question too, that with who though male or female? Oh? Because did your answer different for both? I don't know, all right? What if it was female? Asked? I don't do toast? I don't I would. Oh, it's asked both ways, you asked, Yeah. But the toad thing, yeah, he is just the fact that we would rather lick something that ship comes out of over the wait, Alex, you know why because you could you could actually wipe and clean

it before. I think people don't clean their feet before they have that's a good I don't think that if you shower like you on the floor, like I mean, you're in your shoes all days technically, like that makes me feel like you're gonna kill me. Like, yeah, feet are really bad, especially when you deal with tall guys. I'm just scared. Feet are bad and not and I think especially with men, they don't keep up with their feet as much. Like I know men who will get

like manicures and hands. But I don't know many men that keep up with their feet the way women keep up with Honest, we don't even have to do with this or that I'm gonna eat as period. Yeah, I don't know about that. I actually do it without having an option, So this sounds pretty crazy. I actually got this one from BuzzFeed. Would you rather watch your parents have sex every day for the rest of your life or join in one time to stop it? It's a

crazy question. Where do these people? But uh, oh my god, that's picturing it now. I think I would actually just watch it every day. Yeah, I didn't have to get in there. I'll probably be sick. But with anybody going to stop it, I don't think I can wait sex with my parents my dad, it's not even an option. Yeah, I don't know how the assistance would work. It's funny. I really have one that I didn't get to go through.

And so this is also um in remembrance of Safari and what just happened with his with his nude So and it's actually kind of matches your question. So would you rather have a nude leak to I G or accidentally send your mom a video of you masturbating a nude to really? So you were rather the whole world feeling a leak nude than your mama who shot you

don't know, I don't care, I see it. I want to say, this is a woman that is an adult entertainer that just said I G. And then we have someone else who works for the government that just said nude on I G. Two, realie, what about you? I mean your mom? I feel like a could be like, I'd rather my mom see a video with you masturbating. I mean, my mama didn't see my pus. She used the white a sexual I don't know, like seeing bro. Our mom's came to our lives. We talked about some

ship playing myself. I'd rather have my good I don't know. To me, me sending that to my mom would be like, okay, mom, delete that, don't watch it. To me if if my nude ends up on idea the whole world see my moves or something like that, like that's different but actually massinating, And then the should I'd be saying in the videos, I mean, look what you did. I mean, I'd be talking to him like you make the caption this one's crazy?

Would you rather have sex with a horse and nobody knew or not do it and everybody thinks you did. I rather let people think I did. I'm sorry, that's too much of a really thinking over there, because like how do you have sex with no? But I mean yes, I couldn't say that a woman. I understand. But you got you got a haul on the bag? Oh? Or what about you? You can you can suck a horse? Next question, Okay, I do have one more question. What is the weirdest thing that a customer has ever asked

you or said to you? The weirdest thing or something that was just like what the are you felt super uncomfortable or honestly, I don't, I don't. They never really asked me anything. But the other day recently, I could tell you my my friend's situation. She got act to go into a VP room with a guy. You know, the VP rooms it's like secluded whatever. They have those up here, not here. This was in Detroit. This is

an interesting We know they're in Detroit. I know it was like that there, but hey, you know, but when she went into the back room, you know, she thought she was going to get a dance from him and whatever I mean she was she thought she was gonna dance for him, and you know, he kind of like requested and sit down, I want to dance for you. So he started dancing for her and she got freaked out because she was like, was he white? He was Arabic? Oh, that would have scared any more. Wait, do you know

how he was dancing. He wasn't like taking, No, he was taking. He's being like a strip and he was actually getting off on that. He wasn't joking and trying to make her laugh. She was freaked out. I would have been free. So she laughed her through. I mean, but that would have been easy for her. Yeah, she made money a lot of bit. But she was just like, I never experienced something like that, So I thought that

was funny to bring that is kind of scary. That funny how basically he's like no, like the dude basically on the street and it was like, yo, nice ass. I'd be like, oh my god, wann asshole. But if he was like nice toes, I'd be so oh my god all the time though, or even your nose like gyppy, I guess that all the time. Like guys they love looking at toos. They want to see they'll literally lift your your boot up from like, put your foot on

the bar, I want to see your feet. Like, yeah, there's girls that get their feet's massaged in the clubs too. Guys really like, it's crazy that it's number one. It's crazy that women don't like feet half as much. They'd be surprised. I've seen some videos of some of these instagrams. Yeah,

I've seen it. Her little cousin had a video like spread around in high school for sucking toes and I was like, oh, so I'd rather be sucking dick than toes on Instagram, Like, honestly, you would rather be caught sucking a dick than toes. Yeah, I'd rather be caught because you ain't about to get me in. It's actually combarrassing. If I stuck, that's weird. It's from my private selection and that's all I got to explain. But if I'm

stucking feet, I gotta explain why the feet were. I don't explain why dick was in my mouth, but I need to feel like why this high school we were playing truth to dare? No, I mean like today, present day, today, the day we still play truth or dare? That could still be a dare You get hired for a top, it's like, oh, you know, I had revenge porn done. It was awful. I had to sue blah blah. But if they saw the day, it's like, oh wow. But then the feet they're like, she's a terrible person. I

don't know, You're you're looking like, yeah, me too. I'm sorry, I can't be. So every week we do a kink of the week where it could be either a really hard word that's something normal that we like, like asphyxiation, is choking or whatever. This week it's a simple word, but I wanted to talk about it because I think we kind of use it every day. It's called age play, and it's a type of fetish fetishistic role where people pretend to be substantially older or younger than they are.

And so I've never really thought about this, and I don't do that, and I've said daddy, but I don't know if I've ever acted younger than I want. Well, you know, it's kind of kind of weird, like in the ship clubs, you know, some men kind of fetish young women, So you know, the older you are, you have to kind of play that little young girl. Like now that you bring that up, I did just change my age on sinking arrangement because I feel like they want younger girl, so I just changed it to three

even seven. But I just know that older men don't like more mature women, like yeah, yeah, even over. I actually like playing the cougar a little bit too. Sometimes I switch roles. Yeah, do you want me like I like the young I'll be thirty girl. You can't be a son like to like twenty one year old, you know, because they fantasize about one like the first time in the strip club, and they like older women, they do, they,

which is what I deal with younger guys. But um, I've used the cougar term and was told that cougar actually refers to I guess thirty five. It does, But I mean I'm saying as in an act of a cougar, you know, Like I can see that though. Yeah, Like I've never been attracted to the young guys, but I could see me like playing around and being like so I get yeah, I get both. So it's fun to do. Are you more of like a submissive or dominant person within? Do you think? Well? At work or work or my life.

I'm a submissive woman in my normal life, but at work, I'm more dominant. Really, I could believe that. I could definitely believe that I see that have to be aggressive that I actually wanted to ask you too. And we're about to get into this, but since it's on topic, do you feel like you're someone completely different? And do you do you play a role when you go to work? Like is it literally like you're It just depends on what club you're working in, because there's different types of clubs.

There's more of the traditional clubs and then we have the urban clubs where it's more about hip hop and you know, um and stuff like that, tricks on the pole and stuff. Why can you tell like, um, listeners like that maybe are visiting New York or whatever. Like I'm used to Southern strip clubs, King of Diamonds, like going in Atlanta. Not any of that here. And I know I've never been sister club here except for like sometimes you're not going to get anything here? But why

is it so different? Like what is the culture of New York strip? Yeah? That yeah, well there's one there's one club that's nude and that's um, what's that called Damns and Queens? No, it's not show palace, palace after hour spo, right, yeah, and so like, but no even the thing of like the way they dance like, but I think in the in the South, it's more about your going like it's like it's a show. They actually like learned tricks on the poles. You want to know something, Yes,

they actually do. It's just they're not being respected the way they should, like that's what I'm saying, Like they change the demographic of how traditional ship clubs should be now because now they based in it off of bartenders. So it's like a lot of the pole dancers are leaving because they're not being appreciated. So that's why people are like, oh, we don't see pole dancers. And when I see girls doing poll tricks and people don't take them, it pisses me because what they do is a girl art.

Are actually gonna say there's I've lived. I have such a respect for them. And I know one pole dancer and I've worked in strip clubs up here and des Monique, Yes, she is amazing what she does in the art, and she worked in the city for a very long time and I know, I don't know if she bounces around clubs, she she spoke. She spoke up in the beginning of the of the stripper strike too. She spoke amazing and you know, and she you know, she spoke how she felt.

And I as a stripper, and because I did both, but as a stripper, I'm on full support of strippers all the way because what we do. We have different positions in these clubs. Girls that sit at the bar, there's girls that do lap dances, you know, and then you know they have the pole dancers, and they need the most respect out of all of us because what they do is real labor, Like they need to get paid. A horrible decision this week, if you haven't noticed, is stripping. Um, yeah,

I want to start digging into this. Actually, so you just said there's different positions. I feel like we all have a position to play depending on what you're good at, you know, Like the girl that sits at the bar and just talk to customers. That's some girls, that's how they make their money years ago. Yeah, And just why

I love rivieras because I used to break here. I used to literally just sit down at the bar and a customer will come and just I'll just literally sit down here'll shower at me like a thousand dollars like nothing, or I can go on stage or sit down, I mean like sit down with him for like a good hour or something. I'll go on stage and then he'll shower me. You know, it's changed over the years too with that. But you know, then you have to pull dancers.

You knew their tricks and stuff at that, and these girls that do lap dances and stuff like that. Now we have this thing where these girls aren't doing that anymore. It's more like they're losing the strip club addicacy of being a stripper. Right now, they're doing this strike well right now, it's basically a movement UM based off of UM fighting against the mistreatment of the dancers. You know. Um, we do deal with a lot, you know, but it's also within us too. We have to do it change

within us. So UM. You know, I started it like a few months back where you know, I was coming from DC. I made a lot of money, and I was, you know, on my Instagram being nosy because dancers tend to event on their social media and people don't really pay attention. We all bet we all say little things and we'll have conversations with our fans and stuff like that. But it was to a point where it was just

like I noticed something that happened at Starlett's. A lot of girls were event thinking about something that happened at Starletts. I have a stuff, you knows. I'm sorry, Um yeah, so, um, something happened at Startus where supposedly, um, a hundred thousand dollars was throw own and a lot of dancers didn't make a lot of money that night. I don't know, but the bart had has made most of the money, and it was a real fight, hassle, like to get

to the money. And I had to go and look at the videos from that night because when they were venting about it, I said, this is ridiculous, Like a hundred thousand dollars can't be spread around the building. I don't understand, Like, there's so many talented dancers, there's so many beautiful women. You need to tell me you couldn't, you know, support a dancer around And this was just exclusively a certain group of guys that did that, you know too, And they did it to the dancers. No,

they they were throwing it at the bartenders supposedly. But I think it's not a difficult thing too with New York clubs. So even and I worked at Starlets m maybe for three years, three or four years ago. Um. The issue too, I think more so is the location of the stage being in the middle of the barn because because and I'll say, and this was in the this is the issue as well. And I'll say, because I saw the bar, So you can't sit at the stage. Yeah, you can sit at the bar. Oh no, you're not

even allowed to sit at the bar anymore. The dancers are allowed to sit at the bar. They're they're making it very difficult for dancers to make their money because white black whatever they're telling me, the dancers can, they cannot know they cannot. That comes to listen exactly. That's what I'm saying. They're changing the demographic of how we make our money. They're making it harder for us to make our money. We were in a traditional club because

supposedly it's for the patients. They sell bottles at the barn, which is ridiculous, which is why you're even getting the bottle servers like at Charlott's. I don't believe they have bottle servers anymore. They have they have like I don't know if you guys maybe understand um when she's saying that it was being thrown at the bartenders, or if you don't know what that means. Some of you will, some of you won't, but I do want to read this.

This is a Washington Post article. Um, and the main question I had about this was our Instagram models ruining the strip club. And here is a quote I got from the Washington Post. Um, the shift began about five years ago, which is when the Instagram models and quotation marks with large social media followings calling themselves star tenders started to be hired in the urban clubs, primarily in

Queens and Brooklyn. Club promoters stopped seeking the best mixologists and just started hiring straight from Instagram based on particular kind of look and following bartenders started to resemble the strippers. They even reaped a lot more benefits um that articles from NYC strippers, writes dancers say, nearly naked bottle girl, sorry that were nearly naked bottle girls are grabbing their cash. So how do the bartenders end up sucking making more

money to strippers? Well, well, basically, um, you know what's going on now from years ago? What the hupp and supposed was explaining, well, five years ago, Um, what they did was they put video vixens behind the bar. You know, years ago, these girls actually had some type of poise and structure. They knew how to carry themselves because they

were just strictly coming to be a bartender. Now as opposed to back then, it's different, like now you have strippers behind the bar, so they don't want to leave that stripper mentality and become a complete bartender. They want to mix both of them. And now the clubs are allowing that, you know, so so you don't really have to be good at making drinks unfortunately, which I feel like it's really sad because how are you really running your business like like wealth enough for you to make money.

Now you have these girls who don't have any type of customer service skills to be a bartender to bring these um customers out to serve them drinks and stuff like that. Now it's more like they're selling pussy. So it's because they dressed like I didn't know I went to I mean, but you can't I don't know who was a stripper, who was a girl. I mean, you can't put blame. You can't blame that on the It's not their fault. They're being told to do that, you know.

That's why I'm not really that's why didn't make it about the bartenders. But you know, social media and the media kind of construed what I was trying to push. It's not about the bartenders. It's what the clubs are allowing, the misconduct between both employees, you know, towards each other as well. So let's say that they dressed like less sexier, how exactly? And like, I know how this sounds, but trust me, I'm on the side of yours. How do

they take the money out of your pocket? How? Um? Well, right now, what the bartenders do is they swipe the money off the stage. A customer could be throwing money at the dancer and they'll literally jump in front of the dancer and between the dancer and the customer and kind of start working. So the money lands on the floor, Yeah, the dancing behind the bar. Yeah, but it's also to me. But there's also so you also have customers who were

coming for them one or or even walking. So when I did bottle services Starlet's we were giving our outfits, we were sent a screenshot of what our office will look at night, and we had to wear them that night. When I first started, we were paying forty dollars outfit, and then by the by maybe a month in the club was paying for our outfits. So we had no

saying what we wore for one and two. As we would walk around with bottles or if we were soliciting hookahs or bottles, attendance would ask us to dance for them, whether because they liked what we look like and they liked here, it's not. But at the same time, if we're sitting here making our money the same way as that means you need to use what you do as what's what's inquired for your job to make that money. So if you know how to hustle with mothah, we're

gonna do that. Up sell bottles to make our tips, especially because so for our tips, if we sell like I could run four five tables, the other girl could only run bottles to one. At the end of the night, we're splitting all the money. So to me, if a guy wants me to shake a little butt or flirt with him, or I'm sitting here trying to upsetale at the end of the day, at a little, a little dances, but because they've never had a right so they're latantly

taking their titties out at this point. Now really now that I haven't seen, but I will say bartenders are doing more than that. It's working the dancing that you said, but they're behind the bar, so it's not like they're touching or gyrating, which is even a problem now because if we're out there, we're getting touched on and we're not getting paid for it. How do you think that's fair? I mean, it's not fair. But there, I mean, they're like they're more leting dances to these men. They're dancing

behind the ball. We don't and we know they're not giving dances because they're doing other things outside of the club anyways. So so the bartender the girls are from from the hundred thousand dollar instance that happened, so they they were taking the money was seen a video or they were they were getting the money themselves. What is the thing that happened? Because because I'm a little confused,

were they taking money from? Now it's the point, Well, in the video, what was being just um, what was what I was seeing was the bartender? You know, they're off they're not on the stage. The dancer would literally have to get off the stage to pick the money up. So now it's like a battle between the dancer and the bartender because they're like literally fighting for the money because it's so much money being thrown. And you know, it's like, oh makes sense, I'm here, yeah, I want

my money. But the bartenders have this thing where they swiped the money off the stage. What are you thinking right now because you're quiet. No, as a bartender, you're supposed to be tending to your bar and you're supposed to instead of dancing. Issue too, though, well this is the issue too. And I think that this is where the disconnect can come from because if I am a bartender and I'm sitting with you the whole night, we're talking,

we're having a conversation, you're flirting with me. But there's a million of there's millions but but well, no, here it is. That's what they made it to me. That's what they made it to be. Guys will make you instead instead of giving a tip, but here when that's what they made it to that they made it a trend, which is actually not even a good one word at

a nonstrip club. When I worked at Soby on South Beach in Miami, there would be guys they would ask us for ones to throw us our tips behind the bar. Some guys don't. You make it rain. And so that's the thing too, because where the stage is located, if if if she is a dancer and she's dancing in front of the person, I guarantee the bartender isn't gonna

come from behind the bar and take her tips. Excuse me that I gotta disconnect you with that one, because what the bartenders do do is that they will tell you. They'll actually tell the customer not to tip the dancer. Now, see, that's that's a whole. And I don't think all bartenders are doing that, what not are But I don't know that texting the customer, i'd see the text we're on

a stripper strike. I think it's for a reason. You're editing when you work un bartender for a long time might be different, but if there's a sucking strike, it's got to be a reason. Well no, And so Crystal, my roommate, was going to lust a lot, and she said that even as a customer, has gotten to the point where she can't enjoy it because the strippers are like it's becoming to where everyone is literally grabbing as soon as money because there there are survival mode because

they can't even be they can't be strippers. They're not allowing them to do their jobs. How like, I want to read this one thing and this I don't know if these are your quotes, but I got this from having some posts when you had certain demands that were discussing you want if I read those often tell me if I'm wrong. So thesa demands and the way that you think that this is gonna be fixed, because I

was just gonna ask you how we fix it? Do away with the house fees, stage fees or any mandatory tipping. I mean, that's what a lot of did you? Did? You say these things? I feel like it's a collect I'm speaking for what women. These are, These are demands from women. There's I'm sing for them, and I want to ask you about from that because because I might not even know how, I have a question about that. Stop all the races hiring and firing policies on what

you want and I don't care what. And that's not only an urban we're talking about in the upscale. I can't with denying them certain shifts or firing them. Allow strippers to be strippers, allow bartenders to be bartenders. They're different jobs. It's that simple. Stop body shaming policies. Don't coerce from it into plastic surgery, or require them to work out the stop contracts that control their behavior inside

and outside the strip club. For example, a dancer may be forced to sign a prostitution liability documents stating that they do not meet clients outside of work. I'm what you're there, um. Stop forcing strippers to do marketing for you and exploitive or invasive ways like offering dancers a discount on their house fees in exchange for clients phone numbers.

Get rid of house moms, the hired female staff that sets up shop in the dressing room to provide everything from Q tips to emotional support to home kick meals. They charge fees for all those items, and they're offeringly o their often eyes and ears of engagement. We can get our own supplies. We've got moms. Get real security. We'll tip them. The security staff available to us now polices us by searching our bags for condoms and drugs

instead of protecting us. What, I'm gonna make this quick stop mandatory tip out for dance DJ's host floor people. They have many titles, give us rice and treat us like employees, which excuse me, they're fucking what security They don't protect us, They're they're supposedly. I think somebody just told me today. I don't know what club it was, if you have condoms in your back? Yeah, because what if? What if it's not for the what if you're going

to see your boyfriend after work? Like who cares? Like? Why do you? Why should? What are they searching for condoms? Didn't I didn't even notice. I think she probably interviewed a lot more people besides me. Oh, this is just I'm sorry. I saw your name right before. So yeah, this is different demands. You know, the drug thing. I can understand that, I understand, but I don't want to

hear the security. All right, there's supposed this is what I heard today that security Like if you go to sign a contract at a certain club, on the on on the contract it says security is not here to protect the dancers, is more to protect the customers. So what if this customer is attacking me, are you not

going to protect me? Like, what rights do you have if this is and and it's happened where a customer has attacked a dancer and the dancer was kicked out, or even women getting I think that that's different amongst depending on management, because they shouldn't even have a difference of anything. But I mean, but that's how people like you can work at one company and it be ran a certain way, and go to another company and they

have completely different rules. I think that if you look, if you take a look at this just from a business standpoint, like even talking about eliminated house fees, how else is I want to talk about. What is a house fee? Is paid to rent the What they say is that you're renting the room. Okay, First of all, these people are millionaires. They have money, they can pay their workers, especially they don't they don't have that many workers. I'm gonna tell you where I agree with her on

the house fee part. Where would you find the girl to dance for you? Now? I gotta pay to bring people and entertain the people that's sitting in your club when you make money in the bar, that's bullshit. I completely agree with the house fees. I think that if I'm sitting up here and as an independent contractor, if you're not even gonna give me fucking benefits, now I gotta pay to be here when you need women in

the club, that is bullshit. M hmm. I will say the only thing that I would agree with is if the house fee came with some liability for myself as well. I don't mind the house feel as long as it's reasonable. How what's the cheapest and what's the most expensive? Is the cheapest house fee I've seen in history was in Detroit? How much one? Wow? I mean, but but that's that's that's my thing though, Like dancers are making non taxed money or strippers, bartenders, whoever you want to look at it.

When you're working in this type of environment, they're making untaxed money. And essentially, aside from the bar, how else is the club going to make their money. They also save by when you have to tip out when you when you have to yeah, but when you have to tip out the DJ, when you have to tip out the house mom, those are now expensive that they don't have to take care. But here's the point. You don't have a strip club without strippers. Listen, let me tell

you something. Us paying not dollar house fee. You know how many women would come into work to pay a dollar because at the end of the day, our job is to entertain customers. We make them spend money we make You don't understand is, first of all, this is a job that's mainly run by women. Probably, if not, strippers are women by not sticking by women that have to pay fees and things like this to make a living.

You have a degree, right, I not saying that all strippers aren't smart, but maybe they're just getting their degrees and they really don't have another way to make money. Now we have to charge you to make money, and you might not because the bartenders are taking it. And then let alone, what if I don't make money, I still have to pay to be here. You're not protecting me in any way. I got to pay the security that's not securing me. Like, there's a lot of things

that do go beyond the business being shady. Come on, dude, but I also think that they're three if they make that on the house sees. I'm sorry, but it's different amongst for one, each strip club for one and for two where but That's what I'm saying. I guess right now you brought up Detroit, but no, no, no, I'm talking about this is only not only Detroit. Collectively, dancers

don't want to pay houses. They're paying too much money and they're not profits expensive one you've seen out right now this this weekend a C I double A. These women are flying from New York to go out to make this. How do you say, like this huge amount of money and that's not even promised to them, you understand, Like, do they don't know if they're gonna make this money

that they quote unquote are going to make. Is there anything that you can do, like as a dancer, Like let's say like, hey, if I only work at Starlets, do I not get to pay the house? Pep? I'm an exclusive stripper? They're like if I'm your feature dancer, Like, is there anything you can do that they do do that? They do do that. It's it would be considered a little bit of a favoritism, you know, So it's more like, yeah, I mean they could do something like that, especially if

the woman is promoting the club. I feel like they should, you know, give them some type of a discount. An average Um, like what do you pay? It depends well right now, because I'm kind of banned from all the clubs in New York. I like I work in the Bronx. Well, not all the clubs, mainly queens certain clubs I'm a banned from working at like these. What you're doing? Okay? So, um, I'm working at a club in the Bronx called Club w It's the former Mr Wedge. Um, day shift. It's

like starting at twenty dollars. I think they pay you if you come in before twelve, so you know, because they they have like day shift and then it goes in tonight. The highest house pieces probably like sixty. What do you um, what's your main goal? Like, what are three things that you really like? Are non negotiables for you? Like you said the house be like whatever, right you can? If it's not crazy for you, maybe you can afford it. Some girls can't. But like, what are three non negotiables

that you really really want? As far as for the shippers to make the sps, I just feel like, excuse me about the purpose. Excuse me, dude. There's someone that likes this bird fetish. I'm sure they're gonna do this. Might end up. So we Actually there's videos over here because for five bucks a month you can watch bonus footage and that might let a nick page. That's thanks. Um yeah, what are your no negotiables? Like things you

want to change? I just feel like the bartenders need to be uniformed more appropriately, not like a stripper, you know. I feel like they need to also stop dancing behind the bars. I feel like they should do their jobs, you know, like if you have good customer service skills

and good work ethic as a bartender, use it. You know, why do you have to cross front to what a dancer does, you know and dance behind the bar, because now you're just cutting off from our money, what we're paid, what we're paying and fish nets okay to wear, Yeah, that's I feel like that's traditional. I feel like that's what should wear or even listen. Nowadays, like half these bartenders are being forced to get their bodies done in order to even have the position. So your body is

already voluptuous, even in a black body suit. You can still see your body. So I don't understand what's what's the big deal? You know, why can't you just be covered up and just respect because that's when you were saying, Like I was like, I wonder what, because when I think a bartender in the strip club, I'm thinking like the fishnets, panties, like a cute top, or like what I wore on South Beach, but that's but here, no,

you're getting strip ofits. Wow. M hmm. Okay. It's sad because they're you know, they're there are a lot of women are getting forced into doing their bodies because they think bartending is more of a lucrative career, which it really isn't because still some of these bartenders are dancing, and of course they're not going to admit that, but it's like you're basically working twice as hard now because you you want to push to be this person, this

bartender or whatever, but you're still dancing. So it's like respect what we do and join us, you know, instead of going against us. So that's the number one thing. I think the problem though, too is and and it's what you just said, as far as we'll join us, I think that there's still such a separate stigma, but now they're creating they're creating a bad stigma for being

a bartender because they're doing what we're doing. Actually you've never heard the show, but Mandy and I always joke about should be like always talk to about these girls. I do. The star tender thing. To me, I think it is a joke. It is a joke only because it's not even a start. Honestly, I love a hot girl that works in the bar. I don't want to see the instam they're trying to publicize on an era that's or it's non existent. The real star tenders are gone.

You understand, those girls are not even in the ship club. The main star tender and the infamous one is Bernieburger. Yeah, and the story, you cannot talk that woman, even if you're like depending on it. You know, this woman did not have to dance behind a bar to make money. She brought out a freaking crowd for being who she was. You know, she was her own talent. She was a video vixen. You know, she was in the top artist videos.

You know, these girls now they're just you know. But I also think that that's where the issue was coming from. So when these clubs hire these girls with these large followings that don't bring any customers out, they a lot of them do bring customers out, which a lot of them don't. Some of them may not, but a lot of them do. So you're not only forcing them to you're not forcing them, but you're not only turning them into you know, the bartenders, the startenders. You're now also

adding the promoter title to them. So they're promoting these people to come out to see them. They're promoting because they pay more work for them. Yeah, and it's sad because they're being pushed to do so much. And it's like like a question. We have a friend, a girl that when I first met you, I think for Miami Danny. Danny gets flown out and it's put on flyers to bartend.

What is she only only here and she's done starletts, But that's because Starlett's if girls are in town, my friend Dedy and my friend me, like a lot of my friends that are not bartenders in any city that they live in, when they come up to New York, because they have eight hundred thousand followers, they get put behind the bar. But that's also to save These girls are no longer getting hosting fees, so when they say they're hosting, they're only walking out of there with what

they make at the bar. So that's just that's when the clubs are no longer having to pay them. Yeah, this is which is really messing up the game. They need to stop doing that. And this is what I was. I was so upset when I seen a Lexus Sky behind. First of all, you have an image. You're going backwards, baby girl, you're going backwards. Why are you behind the bar?

And I honestly, I feel like a lot of these Instagram models need some type of management too, because they really yes, because they're not realizing, like you have such uh of a movement now, like your image is what's making you big. You could be making way more money than what you think. These people should be paying you to come to their club. And they're not as the

way they would pay any artists. No, but they want to put They want to say, oh, you're gonna they She works as a strategist for an advertising front for Art Basil. She has to pretty much find people that will talk about Basil and talk about these certain events in the art district of Miami. On Instagram, there's a chick called Amy Song Song of Style. She's like, you're not gonna believe how much we paid her. She has I don't know, maybe ten million follars something like that.

This chick charge is fifty dollars to come to Miami for three days all pre damn meals. Recovered your worth fifty dollars and they gave it to her. She's like, Oh, we got her her a deal. It's that you even say that, because you know that's how yeah, and a lot of women don't. That's how the power of influence. And you know what they paid her for. She said, they paid her just come to the events tag four posts.

I always told myself this because even it was when Aces was open and incident happened, I was so upset because it was just like, I feel like they don't they don't respect us as women, they don't see our worth as women. And I told myself, I'm never coming back. I'm not even stepping for I came back, but you know, I said, I'm never stepping foot in this club until they freaking pay me. Like seriously, now, I'm so serious. They will literally have to pay me now to step

foot in any of these clubs. And even if they don't, I don't care because I know they're gonna pay meywhere else for what I'm doing, you know, So it's like what I I basically, how do you say it? I kind of pushed what I was saying to in existence now you know, I'm really on that level of thinking like they're not. I'm not coming in anywhere until I'm

getting paid. I think what you did has getten so much like before I was talking to on the phone and you were saying you're going to Trevor Noah later. Why do you think that what you've done has caused so much buzz that you can be on Trevor no White people watch this because it's it's more of a movement. It's a it's some it's a new age movement. You know. I'm fighting for you know, women's rights, equal rights, you know,

in a different way, you know. And I feel like what we do in our in the industry that I'm in, it's like it's being silence, and I feel like we need to be heard more because you know, people we we do speak on social media and people like, well, you're just a stripper. No, I'm not just a stripper. I'm still human. You know. Once I leave out those doors, I have a home to go to, I have a family to take care of, or have to go to

school tomorrow, or I have another job. You know, have any clubs had to close down or has anybody even like who gets affected the most from this? Well, when Aces closed down, it affected a lot of women's pockets a lot. But that was just more so for we don't have neighborhood complain so they had enough people. But for like what you're doing now, You're like, a strike is to affect someone's Well, it did. It's scared a lot of people, you know, it's scared like the promoters.

I've had promoters even come to me and tell me like, you know, you can you chill? You know, they would complain, they woupset. It was just different emotions from everyone. Then it was to the point where it was just like some strippers is like, well I can't stop working. They did stop working for the clubs are probably kind of slow for a good month. What is the secondary income for a stripper? Like how can a stripper that wants to strike with you make another Like what do you

see that your friends are doing? Your colleagues? A lot of women are just going out of town if even if that, or they're working at clubs that are pro dancer. You know, it's more that they support the strippers. And what does that mean, Well, they don't allow certain things to happen, like between the barts and their dancer about it, or the way the stages are set up where you know it's for the dancers, you know. I think that's also just a dynamic to where when you have like

you keep using employees and bartenders being employed. I think that that's the issue with the I'll say the urban um clubs. They want to us well, not only do they want to consider the hustle, but the bartenders are really not employees of the club. This is why artenders are brought in by the promoters and so that the promoters don't have to and this is this difference in white club then they actually get paid. You know, white

clubs are also they also sucking white clubs. It's not even that it's not against their own will, like if you want to, yeah, it's your choice, but it's more, you know, they actually run a business up scale because it's the professionals about what they're doing. I feel like the urban is not as professional. They just collecting money, you know. Um, this is why I feel sorry for the bartenders too, and a lot of women because they're pushing this image like, oh, bartender is a lucrative career.

There's women literally say I want to be a bartender, not realizing the same way as you know being a shipper, that you don't know what it entails. And it's so sad. These women are really going to get their bis on, thinking they're gonna get this permanent position in the club,

and then they get tossed in two seconds. Talking about how bartenders get their asks one i'd be like you did, yeah, And they're getting tossed in two seconds, and they end up being as soon as there's another girl that is better, or hotter or more followers, which is why a lot of the bartenders who feel like they have their set nights get mad when girls like Alexis Guy come to town because now she just took someone's spot who would have normally bartended on a Saturday. It happens to me.

It also became a racial issue within the clubs, so they don't they don't like black girls. I want to talk about the racism that she pays, can you I want to talk about one um, how racism affects you from management. And then I want to talk about racism with customers. Let's say that customers may let's start with

management first. Okay, Well as being you know, a light skinned, Hispanic and black woman, you know, I kind of get away with certain things, and a lot of women see that, you know, and there's my colleagues who don't get away with it. So this is why I was so defensive about the black women, because they tell me how they get fired for doing the same thing that I just did, you know, like trying to defend my money against a bartender. They'll be like, no, no, no, no, you just split it.

They'll tell me something like that, it's over, she's getting she's she's getting out of there, she's getting fired, and it's not fair, you know. Even she's just speaking and she's vetting to the management and they're going against her, you know. And then with the whole bartender situation, you know, there's not a lot of black women behind the bars. There's all this Hispanic. They're promoting this Hispanic, which is a problem. Yeah, or white. You know, a lot of

a lot of tone like LETTERR skin tone. So it's like, what's wrong with being a beautiful, dark skinned woman behind a bar. There's a bunch of beautiful women out here that are darker than me. You know, have you seen anything like so as far as the customers right, as far as far as girl getting higher, have you seen the customers do anything or like like, I've had customers

tell me which I don't understand. But this is the club's fault too, because they promote this, you know, they promote this image like this is what you should come to see, and it's just strictly light skin all the time. So when you see comments like where's all the black women,

where's all the black women? It's to the point where they have these customers manipulated thinking well, this is what I should be going to see, instead of them having their own preference, or promoters are pushing them to sit at this specific person's bar because she's light skin, because they think that's what the what the customer may want, you know, So excuse me, um, I've had an um

an incident at City Escapes was SI years ago. This is when I started realizing about because it's it's don't really the same anymore from what the girls they're telling me, you know, because I having a step. I haven't been there about a year, but I have in my there in a while. But it was it had its run in Queens as well. It had a good run a couple of years ago before aces happened. That was like the spot to be bad. But um, I had an incident. This is when I realized about racism because I never

saw a color I didn't like. I was that innocent as a stripper that I never looked at a person like, oh, she's darker. I never really saw a color until that customer blatantly said, well, I want a Spanish woman. And I'm like, but I'm Spanish. So I was confused and he's like, no, I want a light skin Spanish woman, and I got yes. I got so offended. So, you know, we all deal with racism, the Blacks, the Spanish, the

white too. You know, we all deal with the racism, but black women deal with it the hardest and it's so sad. They'll be like, oh, well you're pretty for a black girl. For a black girl, that's so insulting, Like, you know, and I have a friend miss a lot of booty, a lot of you probably. Yeah. And so she used to work at Starlet's as well, and she literally say like there would be a limit on how many black dancers they could have a one night. Yeah, it was like that in a lot of clubs there

they had a night just strictly for Spanish women. You couldn't even work and work there if you were a certain it's her money would be affected. She was kind of this night in Orlando at this place called the Palace. Palace was popped on a Princess Valentina that works there. And I got there and I was like, I remember counting five Spanish girls and I was like, I know, it's Spanish night. The some bitches wasn't up, and him like,

why are the no black chicks? Then I asked one of the girls, the bottle girl was coming to me. I was like, oh, are there no black girls there? And not to night? Yeah, she said, okay, not to night. I wanted to ask you, how come you haven't started working at a white strip club. Actually I've worked that white strip clubs in Vegas. Okay, you know they are more versatile, They just like you're the women a little slimmer. So I was almost borderline too thick. But I did

work at like sapphires and sperm mine. I actually worked the graveyard shift, which is the bad shift. It's when they had they have you working two to eight in the morning. In the morning to eight in the morning. So I another thing. Everybody that was slim or light skin was working the earliest shifts. Not only that. I had a friend who auditioned for a white maybe Rix, Rix's white in the right, and they literally told her

she should come back when her hair grew. She had a short cut like a pixie, and they literally told her, let us know when you put a weave in and make it long, because they didn't want girls with a short it was too urban and too um. Yeah, they literally told her to come back when her hair grew. And so you still deal with she knew her right, and she knew her right. She would have sued because they can't do that. Oh that I didn't know they just club that. I didn't know there was You do

kind of have rights? Then, oh, yes, we do it. Just we need to do our research. That's the problem. A lot women don't mean yes, women need to start doing their research. A couple of years ago, a girls suited a club called Sugar Daddies. This is not the most recent was an old club. I think the Old Sugar Daddies um for not allowing her to wear her afro and she won. Oh wow, So yeah, that's crazy, which is which is crazy because I wonder if that had anything to do. I don't think it did with

the past and just playing devil's advocate. What can the strip clubs say as far as like your upkeep? I think one thing they could say, and you know, it's important when girls come in and they'll say they don't hire a stripper that they find honestly. What's more, well, what's more should say? What can they say to you if they feel like we're full, we're not taking. Like my roommate worked at King of Diamonds in Miami and she was a bartender and she couldn't go on the

floor unless she paid to have her makeup. All of them had to have their making. Yeah, I think certain things it should be in four because you know, you're you're you're representing yourself and this club. You want to look a certain way for the club, you know. That's why I feel like it's not only the issues within that's working against us, is within ourselves too. We need to start having some type of stripper addicacy in New York because a lot of the girls don't keep themselves up,

you know. So now this is why we're facing even bigger stigma because we're like, oh, we're considered trash. There's a lot of beautiful dancers, but we're being outweighed by the dancers who don't keep themselves up. But that's not our fault either. That's the clubs just taking these women's money and throwing them into the wolves and not explaining to them, yeah, how they just want to collect, you know.

And I feel like it's not fair to these women who are coming into the gate not knowing, like the fact that you're charging a girl a house for the first day instead of letting her make her money at least try. They shouldn't be charging her the first day, and she'd be letting her work so she can get the new shoes that she needs, you know, because a lot of these women, you don't know what their situations as why he was trying to do it for a

birthday gift. She'd be a dancer for me and so vent and they can range one of my most expensive shoes is probably four D and then the upkeep on makeup, lashes, hair. Yeah, they don't understand the expenses that we have to go through on a dailies. They don't care, you know, and it's like it's sad. Like like I said, every woman's situation is different. You don't know if this girl probably lost everything and this is she has her last hundred dollars.

She's coming in with a pair of bra and panty and some regular shoes and she wants to make money. Let her make her money so she can invest for the next day tomorrow. You know, they're just literally taking these women's money. They don't even know this girl from a hole in the wall. They're just like, yeah, you have to pay this. One of the things in there was a club, madam. Can you explain what that is? Which one house madam? A housemam is like a mom.

She kind of like she has like all these like stuff everything, like she has everything, she has to camp ons for the women, she has food, water, um, hair scrunched and do we want to get rid of the house mom? I don't think we should because you know what, it's we already deal with so many responsibilities a house mom is very important, and they're very important people. And you didn't you didn't say this. This is what I'm saying. Yeah, it's a combination. I feel, you know what, from that

let it said that they're charged for everything. Maybe the club could pay the house mom. That's yes, that's what they need to do. I feel like that, you know, because we honestly, I feel like they deserve a tip to the house mom does deserve a tip because they do cater to us, you know. But the whole charging us for things, I don't think they should charge us. I think tipping her for her for what she's brought us. I think that's important, you know. And I'll compare the

house mom too. If if any of our people are listening, and I haven't been to a strip club or worked as a dancer, you can compare a house mom to the lady in the bathroom at the club who has come. It's the same thing, the same concept. But that's the thing too. I think that how could a club necessarily pay her if she's purchasing all of these things that she's giving you, ladies. So I guess it makes sense

to be tipped accordingly. She should be tipped, but the whole fact that you're paying a dollar for a tampon is ridiculous. Yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah, you know, I don't think that's happening in all the clubs, but you know this is this is women's complaints, like this is certain clubs, not all clubs do that. So the whole taking out the hosp mom, I don't really think that's necessarily true. A random question that you're probably not even

ready for. Oh god, we're talking about Tampa tampon. So we had a doctor on because Mandy talked about how she's had sex with a sponge. Told her what do strippers do? They are on their period and then need to work. How do they There's a lot of techniques. There's a sponge technique I've heard about that they are They've stuffed wipe ees up. I just used the tampon. I'll just cut this drink. Yeah, I'll just get the strength push. Well, the girls down South, that's their technique. Yeah,

that's their technique. But or the sponge, if you stick it up, it stops the blood from essentially coming down. That's I mean, we're from a sufish. That's why I heard these tips. So I have a question. I have a question to real quick before we close out that hasn't necessarily been talked here. Me and her um have a certain response for men, being that we have this

podcast where we talk about sex. When it comes to you dating and meeting men, what is their response to you being a dancer and how do you deal with with that? It's really hard because you know, men woun get intimidated by what we do because we're around men all the time, but they don't realize we were in and we're acting. It's an act. You know. We don't necessarily like the people that we speak to. You know, we just there to entertain them or listen to them,

listen to their problems or whatever. You know. It's not the same as your real life. Yeah, outside of outside of you know, being that are married and have kids at home, and yeah, there's a there's a lot of there's a lot, you know, and it's just it's hard for them to you know, because they you know, they still deal with their men being a little bit jealous. But as long as you have a strong relationship with your with your partner, are you doing an Unfortunately, no,

I talked I talked to I talked to guys. But you know, I feel like my personality is so different it doesn't even matter. They think I'm like a complete lie. Like it's so like I feel like you're you're not You're not. Have you ever lied because you were like maybe were you ever ashamed of what you did? Now you're sucking you're everything right, like and I'm sorry, not that you were before, but like now it's just like you can back it up and be like, look at

me here and you're the billboard. So but have you ever been ashamed and lied? And what was your lie? Job? I wasn't really more. I was just trying to keep it secretive from my parents because I started at eight Team, my first club since city. And I always, like, you know, I was always a performer, even as a child, So I was never like nervous or anything like that to be around people. But you know, my parents, I didn't want them to find out. They didn't know, you know,

yeh when did they find out? When they started finding out? When I was they I mean, my they're my grandparents, you know, they raised you know, they're old schools. They're looking at me. My grandmother started looking at the money I was bringing in because she was just like, where are you getting all this money from? She didn't know because I would hide my shoes. And then after while I kind of got kind of sloppy with it, and she'd seen my shoes around on my outfits, so she

knew something was up. And then my grandfather who's super like strict, and he was dis owning my one of my cousins for even having a tattoo. She's He's like, I'm dis owning right, this was years ago when I was a kid. He's like, oh, she has a tattoo. I'm just owning her. Blah blah blah blah. You know that that's just being a little ignorant, you know, because it's old school. But you know me, you know that me being their child, they're just like they have to

just respect what I'm doing. And just I didn't really tell them. They just you know, and they're just like, you know, they just want there. They're more considered about my safety and more than anything. So it's so funny because in this time of activism, like I don't know when it started to happen to me, but maybe I'm just getting older. But I was in the strip club recently and I was watching how a guy was talking to a girl. I remember being like, it's respectful, but

that's an urban fun. But now it's like I just feel different. Yeah, I don't know. And we have to deal with a lot. And that's what people fail to understand, Like they're like, oh, you you go in there to get disrespected. No, we don't. You don't have to shoot us like that. What do you say that? Because when someone loves to tell us you should expect no first of all, that you expect they get treated disrespectively out

in it be on a normal day. Right, No, it's excuse me, why are you talking to me like that? Don't And toes you said, so do you? Um? And now you've been working in my last question just for you. I don't know if you have one, but you've been doing this what ten years now? So like like I've had regular jobs to what was one of your regular child I was a deet collector and I was a lifeguard to at Trump Towers girl, I would definitely so.

So of course, you know you're beautiful, and you said you're approaching thirties, so you probably definitely have more time left. But um, what do you do? You have plans after stripping? Oh? Yeah, what what what would you like to do at Well? From the beginning, I always wanted to invest my money into opening a business, you know, but since this happened, I really have a lot of great ideas. Now this is since this became more of of a movement, like

I want to start empowering women. So I'm soon having an empowerment brunch developing. And I actually wanted to start a strip or walk to so hopefully that comes into play as well. So we got a stripper. Can we just be supportive? Yeah? Because even I feel like every woman has an inner stripper in them, you know, everybody so dreams like this is no bullshit of being a stripper. Yes, you gotta respect what we get the idea. Do you ever get turned on what you do? Yes, that's what

I'm saying. Even I was intrigued by it. I'm sure everyone has like, what's that movie called where? What's her name is it? Girl? Even show Girl? This show Girl? How many stripper movies are empowered women to be strippers? To just you know, like Diamond, everybody that's Dimond. Oh, it's so funny they used they used diamond on when the stripper strikes started on the Shade Room. They were

like infamous for that one. So what would be your takeaway for people who listen to this episode and may have learned things that they didn't know about the industry or about inside the club, or about being a stripper. What would you want them to take away? Um, as far as their mindset on what you have going with the stripper strike, as far as like do you want

them to side with you? What is one thing that you just want people to have a respect and understanding, you know, like you don't have to agree, but just respect us because we're still human beings at the end of the day. Being a stripper is not. We're not aliens, you know, Like that needs to stop already. Like I'm a I'm a woman, you know, I deserve some type of respect at the end of the day. I have children. I'm sure you have a mother. You came out, you

came out of a pussy, you know. So it's like, you know, one quick question, one question questions. So it's like you have guys trying to talk to you all the time when you're at the club. How like, how can a guy talk to you out like the fellow, Like I said, you know, I know I have a certain standard on how men should speak to me, you know, like I want to be spoken to correctly. You know, don't come like yo, ma was good. That is definitely not the way you are? You okay with being hit on?

And like, how can someone hit on you in a respectful way while you're at work? Which strange because it's at work. It's just I'm more of the I like. The type of guys I go for is more of the quiet guys because I'm more like attracted to life. I like the challenge, you know, I like to like to dig into the person and you know, see what

they're about. I don't really go for the guys who kind of talk to me too much because yeah, because it's just like you're just doing too much, you know, so it all just be a respectful gentleman and it may get you far. I know a lot of you guys don't know how to do that because we already deal with so much, just so and feel like they

can still be normal. Yeah, that's the thing. She's like, she's saying, with an alien, you feel like it's this crazy thing, which is crazy because she could probably even have sweats and a turtleneck on but her. But I've had sweatpants. I look crazy. One day and a guy pulled up in a Rolls Royce and he was like, hey, this is my car. He was a lawyer, you know all right. I couldn't believe it, and I was just like, I look freaking crazy right now. You know what's going

on here? You know that matter like that? Like, I mean, that'll happen to me. I don't have childbearing hips and asks, but you know, well our followers, um, and I will say I can't wait to put clips of this because you're so much more beautiful in person. I will say, you're actually way more beautiful a person like you're beautiful. So I can't wait for you guys to see who we have. I don't even know if we need to take a picture with you, we like, because I'm like,

she fine, Um, where can our listeners find you? And also do you have anything as far as blogs or websites where they can read up on the stripper strike? Oh? Yes, Um, well, I had to make a new stripper strike page because somebody hacked it. I don't know if it is between the government or or one of the promoters. Yeah, because it's it's you know, it's causing so much of an impact. It really shook the world, like the stuff hit Russian news. You know, it wasn't like something that. Yeah, So you

can find me on Instagram. My Instagram name is dri th h E g I z E l E m A r i E. And then I have my New York City Stripper Strike pages NYC Stripper and then Strike

and then Underscore Strip Strike. And we'll definitely go ahead and put that in the description for this episode as well as if you follow us on our Instagram page at Horrible Underscore Decisions, will post pictures of our beautiful guest today, Giselle, and we will all will go ahead and definitely show support for the Stripper Strike movement and

what you have going on. So excited. Yeah again, thank you guys so much, and please keep us updated when you do do that walk or your women Empowerment Brunch, will definitely post it for our um listeners and thank you guys so much for listening. This has been yet another episode of Horrible Decisions. By Bye