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Ep52: The Art of Cross-Dressing feat Sissy

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You wanna know about a kink? You can always count on us! While swiping on Tinder, Weezy swiped a cross dresser by the name Sissy and he agreed to come onto the show and share his kink of cross dressing as a straight, successful man. Find out what cross dressing is, how it turns him on, and how it's effected his dating life. Also, as you heard in the beginning of this week's episode, Whoreible Decisions is hosting their 1 Year Anniversary Live Show May 19th in Atlanta! Get your tickets before it's too late here: www.whoreibledecisionslive.eventbrite.com Also, become a Patron and receive a $5 off Promo code for your live show ticket. Can't make it to Atlanta? It's fine! Enjoy bonus content and see full video of the episodes each week.

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We come into ay, we come into the at Hey, guys, just wanted to let you know that it is official. We are bringing our one year anniversary live show to Atlanta, Georgia. We will be there May nine, at the Plaza Theater at ten forty nine Constantly on Avenue, Northeast. Tickets are now available. You can get them in the links in our bios, or you can go ahead and click the link in the description of this episode. When you're done listening. We want to thank you guys so very much and

we are so excited to meet you all again. Come and join us at the Horrible Decisions one year Anniversary live show that is in Atlanta, Georgia, Saturday, May nineteenth at seven o'clock PM. Y'all better not be late, and that is at the Plaza Theater at ten forty nine Postill on Avenue. Again. Can't wait to see all of you guys there now enjoy the show. So yeah, Hi, Hi, UM, I guess, yeah, I guess my nervous I don't know. Can I just don't understand how I met someone online

and then now you're in front of me. It's weird. This is gonna be exciting. Um, Hi, guys, welcome to yet another episode of Horrible Decisions. Um, this is your girl, Mandy be and I'm sitting next to me and Weezy and I'm we're sitting next to Sissy, well, Robbie, Sissy. I don't know what to call you. I don't know the proper pronoun right now? Actually, yeah, can we go through this because I don't want to say I mean, do we? Is it? He? Because it's it's a little

place into that. So let me tell you, guys, um, who's in the studio with us today? So I was on bumble and do you see these pages all the time where it's someone that has a fetish or it's a fetish page and it's not maybe your quote unquote everyday life. And I found Sissy there and I was like, oh my god, this girl looks really good. And then I click on it and it's actually can I read it? All right? Let me let me click on my I'm really not I'm freaking nervous. I don't know why. I

feel like I'm onna. You're like back to really swiping now, like you haven't got all the apps back on your phone and you are on the prow ma'am, I'm just having fun. Okay. Hey, I'm a part time cross dresser and I love to dress up and become a sissy maid. Most of the time, I'm a regular guy, but in my spare time, I like dressing up in pretty outfits, makeup, and heels. I recently moved to New York and looking to make friends with fun and interesting, interesting and open

minded people. So I was like, oh my god, I have to have her, mainly because most cross dressers I see on Tender look awful and it's just like, you put no effort into this, fine, like whatever. So I swiped um sissy right and I matched, and I asked her if she would go on and she's like, oh my god, I've never been on a podcast. I Can I ask you a question because clearly you guys matched, so you found an attraction. How did you feel when she hits you? And was like, actually, that's a good question.

Can you just come on my podcast? As I mean, I'm not trying to you know, like, what was your reaction to that? I didn't know what to say. I've never I've never really I don't really listen to podcasts. I've certainly never been on one, so I just thought, fuck it, why not. I'm new to the city. I you know, I like doing cool things, things that take me out my comfort zone. Yeah, like it's so New York. Ye. She was super excited too. I just matched end of October.

Oh my god. Okay, I'm so do you work in Fine? You look like a finance guy sort of. You don't have to tell, but let's just say bye. I was close for you. Yeah, okay, got so. Um, yeah, I wanted to know. Do you have a regular page or now I do? Yeah, I do have a regular one. Um. Actually, this time it's a little bit interesting for me. So you did see you did meet me on a profile

that was just uh, sort of cross dressing pitches. But this is the first time I've combined sort of a profile, so I know how pictures of me regular and really on your regular profiles. Yeah, now, just for the first time coming here, have you seen a different response. Yeah, it's been it's been better, I think really. So what we like to do and we have guests is a thing called icebreakers. I'm sure he knows what that fucking means. What do you mean we do a thing called icebreakers?

I mean what. I don't know if maybe they had English, right, where are you from England? England? Well, maybe they call it. Do you guys call us something else? Over there? We call it icebreaker ship. I didn't know it was the universal fucking thing. Okay, okay, so English Tony Americans don't do this ship. They're like, wow, do you guys? You guys have pizza there? Okay, you don't speak English, is the first the first thing. No, you guys are cool. Okay.

So here's the question they have for you. Would you rather go a year without intercourse or a year without oral sex. I'd rather go a year without I'd rather go a year without oral sex as well. Yea, it gives me to give me penetration please. Actually, the guys that i've dated that I asked that question too. I think I've sent it seen on Instagram. They were like, well with you, like, now, let's just I'm like, yeah, yeah, I think my guys would have probably the same response.

But it's crazy because I don't feel like a lot of guys can really perform orally as well as women can perform orally. I think it's just harder for women to orgasm. Yeah, all right, let's see. So the next one is would you rather receive or give a golden shower? I have never done EVA, I guess I'd rather give. I suppose. Yeah, I did not think you're going to say that, only because in my eyes, cross testing is this thing of like to be submissive a little bit. Yeah,

but I don't want to get paid some much. Okay? Would you rather be dominated or be the domb? Of course, outside of I'm sorry, outside of your cross dressing life? Oh? Both? Really? You do both? Okay? Okay? Um, So the kink of the week we initially had was was ball busting, but Mandy and I realized we did it at the live show. So I'm sitting with Robbie while you're on your way and I'm like, dude, what can I do? Like, give

me some ship I've never heard of? So he said he had a friend that does webcam ship and something she does is um ignoring. So I'm like, how what is this called? Looked it up. It's an abandonment fetish, neglect fantasy and apparently people um have phone lines to be ignored on, so it's from a domb point of view, Um, it's a submission fetish and yeah, can you tell U a a little bit about your friend. Yes, So she's a friend from from from London from moment. She got into

it a while ago. She was looking to make some extra cash and she's kind of in the in the kind of scene socially, and someone suggested it to her and now she she has She does webcam sessions and phone sessions where she literally just ignores whoever on the other end of the phone. So is this like a finn dam thing, because I've heard of finnam Is doing this. It's kind of It's not. Well, fin Dom is literally talking about the money though, right, not all of it.

There's a lot of different things that are involved in finding and a lot of them want to feel like ship and so when you're ignoring someone, you're belittling them. Yeah, I guess. So all I know is I've been to our house and we're just sitting on the sofa watching TV chatting. She's smoking, she's dressed in like, you know, in an outfit um, and there's someone on the on the webcam who she's just ignoring. She doesn't look at them. And she's getting paid by the by the minute, like

five dollars a minute or something? What am I doing wrong with my life? I don't know why? Let me tell you that. People like will say like we had a dom on here, and she was like people always are saying how like, oh, I'm a bit so I could do this. I don't know how long I could ignore them one like, I'm sure i'd be like, oh, feel bad. I mean, but she literally was just going on with what she was doing, right, But you were there while it happened. What the other person do? Are

they jerking off? Or they like, please talk to me? I don't know. I didn't. I didn't see them. They're kind of yeah, they're sort of looking, they're typing, like typing on the chat. They're sort of talking. She can mute them, so she just often mutes it so she doesn't even hear them. So they're trying to talk or trying to chat, and she's just sitting there smoking or

like in her outfitting chatting or watching TV. And so they're talking to themselves, yeah, basically, and they're trying to get her attention or whatever, and she just ignores them. And there at any point where they can like earn it, like a punishment type of thing, like okay, fine, even a good boy like I'll, I guess there is you can do what you want, I suppose, but she do that like America's next models on. Oh great, all right,

so our horrible decision for the week is obviously cross dressing. UM. So we have people that sent in questions for you. UM. A lot of my friends that are like in the LGBT community were like, you need to make sure that you use all the right words and you need to say this and say that. I'm like, okay, so I feel like I've got some good questions that people would have. Um, the first day, I want to start with this, can I can I say something before we get into this?

Do you define yourself as a part of the LGBTQ community because you are you deal with women though? Right, well, Q is apparently where the cross dressing fetish lies, like it lies in the queer part. It doesn't have anything to do with I don't feel like, well, we're gonna

get into that. That's part of my question. So something I've been like trying to, like I said, research for the proper pronouns and things like that is when I type in cross dressing, a lot of hyper sexuality comes up, but the LGBT community claims cross dress saying as a part of a queer thing because people like kind of teeter on the fence. So here's my question for you, your sexuality and the experiences that you've seen with other cross stressers. This is different from drag, but like, what

exactly is it? Uh? For me? Firstly, I don't really mind what people call it, all the pronouns that kind of stuff. I'm not very politically, I don't. I wouldn't define it as that. Yeah, first of all, that doesn't worry me. Um, I'd say it's different for different people. Um, there are definitely a lot of heterosexual cross dresses, um, people that do it for all kinds of reasons. I do know straight drag queens when you get into the

kind of drag. From my experience, more are like the majority are gay, and they certainly know of a couple of straight drag queens. But with cross dressing in general sort of outside the drag, I'd say quite a large percentage of straight right now, How is so cross dressing? What is the difference from cross dressing and drag? To be honest, it looked very similar when I saw your pictures. You you not only get into wearing a dress and wearing a heels, you did a full face of makeup,

you had a wig. Um, what is that not? Is dragged? Just more so the performance attached to it, more so than you actually just dressing up. I think. So when I when I think of drag queens, I think of stages and performances and you know, either singing or dancing or miming, you know, but putting on a show more a show. So with cross dressers, you were one of the first ones that I saw that looked that good.

And maybe because your makeup was I don't know what it was, but like normally, like I feel like I could still see someone's beard or mustache and they just have a more masculine look, like you looked totally fem And so I'm just curious to know how do you prepare and what do you have to do to start learning to do the things? Do you even do your on makeup? I do my makeup sometimes, but a lot of the time my friends do do it. I've got um friends that are in the kind of makeup industry

or that do this kind of stuff. Um, and also just girlfriends enjoy doing it. They enjoy because they they're friends with me as a guy, so that for them it's fun to then dressed me up or do the makeup, and they like doing different styles or trying to make me as as fair as possible. What was your first outfit? Uh, So it's kind of strange. My very first outfit or the very first time I did it was for a

friend's eighteen birthday party years ago, like twelve years ago. Um, and I had a long, sort of pink sequin bullgown. Kind of why did you do it for the party, because well, I was the whole thing started with an ext girlfriend. I was with a girlfriend and she kind of got me into it when we're young, sixteen seventeen, Yeah, and she she's kind of started the whole thing. Um, and then my friend was having a party where the theme, the dress up theme was kings and queens, and um,

my girlfriend had gone as the Queen of Hearts. She dressed up in a you know, a sexy queen of heartsting, and she kind of convinced me to go as a drag queen. The first time. We kind of went out and bought like a wig and a dress. And heels and that kind of stuff. Now, is this something that you started doing um or that you had an attraction to at a younger age, but maybe your parents wouldn't you know what I mean? Was it something that wasn't allowed?

Was it something that you kind of always wanted to do, or was it really literally that that girlfriend at eighteen that got you into it. I'd always liked dressing up as AE kids. I wouldn't necessarily to say that that was like female dressing up because that was not that much. Someone wants to know when you identified with this part of yourself. Yeah, I guess she kind of brought it out.

Like I think when I was young, I liked just the whole dressing up in general, you know, because there's any kind of character as Disney as you know, just generic dressing up. While you're saying that, I do want to read this one question I have from Christopher. He said, and I feel like it's tying in. Can you explain your experience living in the intersection of gender performance and expression basically, like is this something that has to do like do you like being another gender? Like is this

just roleplay? Like? How did it feel? It's kind of role play. It's kind of maybe escapism or it's kind of I like, it's definitely pretending and that sort of acting. It's not I don't want to be a woman, or I don't, you know, I don't I don't want to live like that permanently. I love being a guy. I love my life as it is. But then just like you know, occasionally transforming kind of a transformation process and pretending maybe escaping. I don't know how often are you sissy?

It depends, um probably once once every few weeks or something like that. You know, it depends what's going on and where I am. And I saw you had a picture out and about with two girls, so like normally that was the first picture I've ever seen where somebody was dressed to like that that wasn't in drag like outside or that's not a drag queen in the daytime, Like where were you? Like when are you like really

going out there? So I've been living abroad for the last few years, and when I was back home in London to I just decided to fuck it and go out. And in London, um, there's a lot of kind of places like clubs and so fetish bars or fetish clubs or gay bars, drag queen bars to go to. So I did went to those kind of places. But then where I've been living recently, there wasn't that kind of scene. So I just had friends and we just went out.

We just said, fuck it, We're just going to go out to bars or clubs, regular ones and just have fun. Have you done it in New York for the first time the other week? Yes? Where'd you go? Um? I can't remember the bar, but it was in the West Village, some drag queen bars in West Village. So we've established if someone cross dresses, that doesn't mean they're gay. What's your sexuality? What do you identify with? Heterosexual? Like open minded and free flowing, but heterosexution, so not like okay.

So the reason I wanted to ask that question is because on Sissy's page something it said something something sir question mark, and I was like, oh, because I knew you were on bumble looking for women when we match. But then I was curious, like, do you have men

on there as well? I don't know, but it is kind of I guess that was just kind of it's kind of when I'm dressed like that, and if I do go, you know, outside, then I do have guys that are you know, it's kind of either attracted or interested or that kind of thing, and it's it's kind of just going with the role player. I suppose that, yeah, like a daddy thing or whatever. I guess. So she sat here and asked all these politically correct questions. I'm

going to ask the questions I really want to know. Um, and I'm sure a lot of my next one was our first date again walk boring. Um, So I really want to know when it comes to dating, um a woman. Because you've clearly said you haven't dealt with I got my own questions. Um, you clearly haven't messed with any men up to this point. Correct or you have dip and dabt. I've had experiences, but not in terms of

dating or anything like that. That's not okay. And with the cross dressing, does it bring an arousal to you when you're in this character? Do you feel harder? Do you feel more aroused? Is this what gets you off it? Sometimes? There's definitely two For me, there are two sides to it that that definitely is a sexual aspect of a sexual side. Um. But there's a huge chunk that is not It's just fun. It just makes me happy. But on Bumble, you're so like that. That's why I want

to talk about the first date because I'm bumble. You're specifically talking for one thing Sissy made right, So like, how does that work? Our girls really like swiping you right to clean their house or do you want something else from it? They are and I do that happens? Um? No, Ideally I want I want to be uh Robbie and and Sissy. Um. I've just been scared, I suppose or afraid to have them on both because there's certain people

in my life that I'm not comfortable with them knowing. Uh. Out of that for me is work like people I work with. UM. But the kind of beauty or nice thing for me coming to a new city, in a big city like New York is that it's very unlikely, especially knowing my work colleagues, they're not going to come across you know, they're not going to listen to this podcast for example, right, I wouldn't have recognized you in that picture, and like like if I would have matched

with both profiles, I've never would have. So that's that's what gives me kind of anonymity for sure. For sure, So putting them both together is what I really want to do. And a few weeks ago here in New York is the first time I have done that. Where'd you do that? Tinder or Tinder? Yeah? And I did want to ask, So when you're dating, you said you want someone to accept Cissy and Robbie. Have you ever had a relationship since you've been both that you couldn't

be both? Like? Was your partner not interested in Cissy? Yes, there's been like, well, not a long relationship, but certainly relationships that have lasted a few months or six months or so. Um. Some I haven't even been told, they haven't even known. Um. Why did you feel like you couldn't? A variety of reasons. Sometimes because I've dated twice, I've dated girls from work, Um it's been a barrier. Um.

Other times just I don't know. Sometimes you just you just don't feel like you can, or it's it's you know, hasn't any girlfriend that you are a woman you've ever dated? Like found women's clothing in your home and been like, what the fun? Yes, my last girlfriend did so she did not know, um, and then she found she found Well, how did that conversation go fucking terribly? She was she of course assumed there was someone else's How long were you dating her? About about a year? But it was

kind of a long distance a long distance relationship. A year A long time to find some fucking heels in my boyfriend's house. Yeah, it was a long disc since relationship. And she found out. And then you're like, oh, you're doing this when I'm not here? Like that makes sense? Yeah, so she u she found them, assumed it was someone else's obviously, of course did you have to show her? They used to calm down, um, and then you know, I had to explain the situation, you know, explain it.

And what was her response? She knew that it wasn't another woman, but she knew that this was now something that she enjoyed doing. And I will say, while me and Wheezy are very open to accepting things, this is something where I honestly don't know how I would respond if I found out my partner was doing it. So what was the response when she found out that this wasn't another woman's clothing? She was a bit confused. She she didn't know if she could accept it. Had she

heard of it before? She Yeah, she'd heard of it, but she only associated it with gay, like a lot of people know that. Yeah, so that's something that she struggled with. She thought, you know, she kind of made the assumption that you know, that always may be gay. Uh, she wasn't sure how she could accept it. And then she was also annoyed because it's been so long that

essentially lied. Right, So we may have some we so we have a lot of male listeners actually, and so I want to ask this question to you because maybe someone who listens to this show has the same kink um as far as cross dressing, and as a straight man, do you call her kin I guess so it's I would, but I didn't know. Yeah, if you're doing it in a day and it's not sex, and I would still kind of consider it kind of just like we talked about the cosplay, it can be kinky, but it also

doesn't have to be necessarily related to set. So my question is and that I would love for you to like maybe help guide our our our listeners if they're into cross dressing and haven't opened up, how do you bring this to someone you're newly dating? Or how do you introduce this and say this is a part of you, either early on in the stage or before getting caught.

I think definitely, as with anything, sooner is better. You know, if you can do it's going to be easier for them to accept you don't have Oh you lied to me for so long. Uh. And also you're not quite so involved maybe so if it doesn't go well, it's not such a big issue. Have you ever had to cheat for it, like someone who wasn't accepting of it? Did you have to feel like you had to sneak away to go do this with someone else? That's really

that's really good. I was just sure. I was waiting for the stories I like because well, I'm at basketball playing time in the gym. Well we say it all the time too, Like, I think so many people suppress things that they desire sexually because so many people are not accepting of this type of stuff, and a lot of times they will seek out either through online dating apps or Craigslist or anywhere to find that to get

the herd away. And so I guess that's so most people that you have dated who weren't accepting of it, they pretty much just walked away a kind of yeah, I guess you know, things just didn't work out or something like that. Um, but yeah, in terms of in terms of I've tried to say, it's various girlfriends in a variety of ways. Um, I think the easiest is just to kind of get drunk and tell them. But but that's exactly what the advice I've given people like I have a crush on my friend, get drunk, Just

get drunk. I'm trying to really think you don't feel any like like you know what I mean, Like you don't have any inhibitions about it. The other person's got to let their guard down to it's like, suck it. So I do want to ask you, Wheezy, if you've been dealing with lover boy for quite some time, if this is something that he came to you and said he enjoyed doing, is that like how would you react to that? So, Like, I am such a pleaser that I think I would do anything to like use anybody.

If I met someone on tender that said this, I might swipe them left initially because I'm like, I don't know how a deal. But if I'm already invested and this is going to get you off, then fuck it. I mean I'm already saying that I don't really give a ship off that person. It's hetero flexible, right, Like, this isn't that much crazier to me? Well, at least you can't fit your clothes. So my mom and I

actually had a conversation funny enough, my mom. I was telling my mom about having you on and she's like, oh my god, my ex husband used to want to put my panties on all the time, she said. She brought that up on the show. Yeah, and she's like, so she starts telling me like how he would never

get fully dressed up. She's like, but it was like he was so getting ready for it, And I wanted to know, like how when you're easing it on someone, Let's say, like, do you start with something small, like have you ever been in the room and a girl's brows there and you put it on and see what she says, Yes, that's definitely that's that's kind of a

way to easing it. So someone's done that to me, really, yeah, so that's kind of a way to tested you know, you do it obviously kind of as a joke and then engauge their reaction if she comes in and says, like, what the funk are you doing? Get the funk out of my clothes? You know it's crazy about it, then you're quite okay, maybe you know this is not gonna work, right.

I feel like men do this a lot with pegging. Well, Peggy, I would say, they start really a tongue, then a finger, then lifted up like yeah, like they kind of let you know, they kind of want to. So I know you said you're on tender. We just had UM a couple episodes ago, an entire episode on online dating. Are there any sites for people who enjoy cross dressing and people who enjoy being with someone who cross dresses? Would do you know of any online dating sites for that?

Not really, Like there's a couple of kind of sites obviously, places like fat life and these kind of sites. Um, and there's a couple of others, but it's mainly just kind of voyears. It's not really all people that are going to get into it. Yeah, it's just kind of like keyboard people. It's not you know, it's it's not they're not serious. Was like, your so I'm sure, like someone was like I can see a girl sitting there and be like, this guy's gonna clean my house. Yeah.

Can you talk about like the perfect scenario in terms of like the way someone treats you and like how the night could end, like whether it be sex, whether it be them dominating you, Like how what is what you want from bubble? Like what could be perfect? Your perfect night? It's to be honest, whether it be a group of girls or one girl. The main thing I

don't know is that's difficult to answer. The main the main thing I'm genuinely looking for is kind of friends, people friends and people that are accepting that I can do it and be comfortable with and be open with. There definitely is the sexual side, but that's kind of dependent on on the person or the situation. Um yeah, like if you know, if I if I went on a sort of went on a date with someone, um and in maybe you know, if they really liked it. It's not not too many out there, but there are

some women that get off on it as well. You know, they enjoy it, So I suppose that would be ideal, But genuinely just people that are open to it. When you're when you're dressed up, do you get into full characters and like, do you change your voice? Could we hear that? By any chance? Can we hear fifty? Absolutely not? I was so ready to hear. I'll tell you what does it? I can't. I try a lot of people have say that for me, it's makeup when the makeup goes on. So it's not it's not even the clothes,

it's makeup. Well, you're pretty much there with us then, because listen, I don't even like my outfit until I have my makeup on. So I can only equate this to like when I wear tims I get real New York. I'm like, you fucking talking to me, like, I don't know what happens when I put like Timberlains on it. But um, another question I had debt is from or someone name Christopher? What question are you tired of being asked? The most common question? I'm not tired of because I

understand it. But is are you getting I could I could see that the number one question? Does anyone in your family know? No? But our close friends? I don't really. Yeah, I'm not particularly close to my family. I don't. I don't really. Have you told a close friends a male friend? I feel like they maybe less accepting. Not someone I've known for a long a long time. Definitely friends that had known for a kind of one or two years

who didn't know. I didn't old um, but kind of like you know, old friends from school, people have known twenty years and stuff. No, alright, Well, I think it's also harder for men like And it's funny because a lot of our male listeners say they love listening in on this because they don't get to hear women talk like this often, and I feel like men don't aren't really is open with their guy friends about what they

really like. I've heard guys lie and say they don't like they asked, licked their fingers and maybe right legs spread open, get goddamn fingers jammed in their booty holes. So I think, I mean, I think it's just something I don't know why, Like I'm just saying just it. But like you and I and you with a lot of your other female friends, we talk about licking balls and licking ass and everything nasty we do. And I think girls just high five each other, like, girl, you nasty,

But girl, go ahead. And do you feel like it is different with opening up to your male friends as it is opening up to your female friends. Yes, the difference with the male side is definitely the alpha male status, hypermasculinity. We always talk about that absolutely what it is You're gonna lose that, which is difficult. Right. Have you ever been like like someone wants to swipe you right to go off on you about it, like wuld be like

this is fucking weird, blah blah blah. Not really, I've had I've had one or two messages where someone's matched and then just said you're fucking disgusting, you know you should die or something something like that, and then just deleted a conversation with someone. Someone went off on me early on in recording the episode, I told you I matched somebody on Tender and I talked I guess we like got into the sex talk and I talked about pegging and he brought in God, he brought in like yeah,

he like went off on me. It was like like unmatched me. As soon as I said like that, I was into this and was like, you need to go to church because that is a sin, and how dare you think you're gonna play with a man's butthole? And he was really, really really and so I was yeah, like it was. It's crazy to know that you have

had that same reaction just with you. And we we make fun all the time, but we're like no kink shaming because we get on and we talked about things that I know a lot of people are like, what, So, I want to describe what you look like because I feel like people think you look so crazy? Wait what I feel like people like this guy has to be weird. He like it's so crazy, because what was it? I think it was so fucking We even associated that with

serial killers. So oh yeah, I was like, someone wants to kill you, they want to put a so but you know, like before I did this podcast, I just want to say, like I made a joke with someone like, oh my god, I used to think golden showers were disgusting. Now I'm like, whatever if on somebody who hairs and it's not that big a deal. So, like she even said how much she would get shipped on for she actually considered scat you. I mean we did it together, but so I I mean it was in the tens

of thousands. I mean, did you hear that one? I had a friends? What you have friends that do this? Whoa oh? Ship. I had the two friends, both from work, and they dated. They were dating each other and then when they split up, the girl said that he wanted to ship it always been wanting to want to do it. I can't do this anymore, Brian, you just keep wanting all over. She finally compromised. Wait no, but she she

was naked and put clingfilm over her boobs. Wait so she she played yeah, and he shipped on the Suran rap ye on a chest. Do you know if it was like so we talked about this too? Three? Did she get there? Did she explain that? Was it like hard hurds or like I think it was? It was solid ship. It wasn't like yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't talked about what type of ship we would want on us. It wasn't running down her body but never talking about today. But you know it was not. I think it was

disgusting enough. And at three, that's so young. Why do I expect everyone to be like like in their forties trying this ship like you know what I've done at all? Like today? Because this is it? Like you know what, I'm tired of sucking in as let's get so. She told people this because it's I think a lot of we have men write us and want to try things, but are scared they're going to be quote unquote exposed.

And of course a girl going around saying, Phil, you wanted to shoot on me could definitely like how did they do that? It would it definitely would do. I think in that instance he's going to get more high fives than the girl. Really well, she shouldn't have even wanted to say, because then you're admitting to being shipped on, bro, why would she? Ladies, ladies, listen, this exposing ship has got the start. Have you ever been outed quote unquote,

Oh that's a good question. Uh no, not so certainly not to my knowledge, I haven't, but that is something that's like, you're not in fucking college or high school, Like maybe it's just that I want they still forty year olds have drama too, Yeah they do. And then you know, once you get older, you're in the more problems. I know, nice people, we're just a concert for Can I ask, like, um, since you're now you're living in New York, it's your first time living in the States,

what are you fucking tired of from us? Besides us being dumb? And Donald Trump what else? Wait, yeah, you're right though, no Americans are dumb? Has anyone like not know one breaks? It is like, just tell me what ship is just killing you right now? This is I can't say this about insulting the nation. We insuld people all the fun paris. This is a ship whole country to be honest. Uh no, there's nothing. Really go ahead.

You had it in your head, you like if you are, we too, gett like ok it like just it's the wird number one at you. I know that I'm not and I'm not gonna lie. I was in Singapore and bitch, I sure was like from America New York to be exact, but it's a big joke. I mean we had a moment at the time, so it wasn't too bad. But Trump was in the running. So everywhere I went they were like, are y'all really considering and be a fucking president? We literally less than a hundred something years ago. Dude,

this is crazy ship. They have been number one, But somehow we've been able to literally what's the word like wait, wait, wait what No, there is because we've literally been able to learn literally an embarrassing society. But the world to believe that we are the American dream. So this is the goal for a lot of people to end. Says you can start a business soon, doesn't mean you can fucking be of another race. I mean, you're right, but

this happens everywhere else in the world. Our president and it was recorded that he would grab someone by the pussy and where made it? What does that say about us as a people that we ain't ship? I'm aware, okay, and we see why you're mad. Keep going. Are you like totally tired of girls? That topic does? Or? Wait, we sound like we have an accent though, right? Is our accent Southern? It's just Americans American, well, at least in America, we have different acts. Okay, what's something you've

enjoyed while you're here? The food? I heard you, y'all, food is ship. You got good Indian food? Though England has great food, it's just not English food is every other country's food. They do have the top restaurants in the world, I think, right, like the most Michelin stars in I think, so yeah, why not? So yeah? What what have you enjoyed here? Then? I guess most um, I don't know the bar like the nightlife is quite cool. I guess the bars, I know, I struggle with that.

Do you want to get for breakfast? I still like a fun English breakfast. Um, what's the big difference with American women and English women? I don't know. I haven't dated. I haven't dated English girls since I was for years, for years and years really and I don't know why, because that's kind of like new of American guys sort of sex different. So even when you were living in England, what was the race or ethnicity of the women that you dated over there? He was dipping in the childhood

brown like Indian or Pakistanian or something color. I feel like Asian. I've lived in China for three years. It's definitely had a couple Asians. I had ash do you have? I don't discriminate. That's great, I mean I guess you can't because you're like, you better be open with my ships.

I'll take so have you. I'm curious to know because we discussed a lot like this is a I mean predominantly black podcast, right like most of our listeners in the demographic, and we've found that a lot of these fetishes and a lot of this sex conversation is not common in the black community. Have you been with a black woman that knows about sissy or like matched with a black girl? Like, how's that? Then? Yes? Yes or no? So I tend to probably much of less black people

than white people. Definitely, Um, but I knew I know quite a few pro dominatrix and then most of them are black. So it's certainly no, you know a lot from from that kind of aspect. We're good at sports. It's just but yeah, kind of from a from a more friends but like you know, not sexual side, not king side of friends side. That's right, you were wis We've got that mark? Yeah then um, yeah, not so

many black people. But then this is the first This is definitely the place of being with the highest amount of black people, if that makes sense. So I don't ask you as we're talking about dating and who you've dated. I had this question and it's something that I'm us about. When you are sexual during your cross dressing in the bedroom, what is that like, Like, are you being pegged by a woman? Is it mostly once you take all the clothes off? Is it regular man and women play? What

is the role when you're actually engaging in sex? Do you keep a brown do you know what I mean? Do you pull your pantis to the side, because we've been doing that ship, So, like, how is it sexually when you're cross dressing? It really depends on the on the other person. I am so easy going and fluid and comfortable and happy in different situations that I don't really mind. I like being spontaneous and going with the

gum with the flow. It's really changed. I've had some people who, um, some women who have have wanted to have like just regular kind of like regular sex with me as a as a is that boring to you? It's not boring, but it's it's it's different, maybe you know, because maybe they've got slightly curious tendencies and you know, they've maybe thought about going with a girl before or something, and it is a little bit of a halfway house

or a little bit of a tester. Also, I've had women that really that are kind of switch as well, and they like to dominate me, um, when I'm dressed up, but then they also like to be dominated, so they kind of we sort of start off you've dominated as no, no, So it's kind of switches kind of switched, like started off where their dominance. I'm submissive as as sissy. You know, it's just kind of going like that, the kind of

role play. Um, but then you know after x amount of time, you know they they're kind of like ripping the clothes in the week. I was about to say their schedule because they then want me to you know, they didn't want to be dominated. So do you flip back and forth? Like what is the discussion? I'm sure like it talked on the phone, Like do they say I want to see that her? I want Robbie denied her?

Do you have saying that? Like how it's not really planned or discussion, it's just organic and just however however it happens. How long does it take you to get into system mode? Because you say you do a whole face and makeup, like the makeup is really really good. How long does this take a couple of hours? Maybe it depends. I mean I can do it quicker and it's going to be not as good, you know. Um, so the makeup, I'm okay, But the best photos of

the makeup is not me that it's done. It is it has been friends definitely, Um, because I got one of my I think the picture that you have that you that you put up. That's actually a transsexual friend who is So she's from Iran Iranian transsexual but she's really really cool. So she's in England. I want to kind of promote her a little bit. She runs a company called Girls Will Boys Will Be Girls. So she runs a service where she does your makeup and dresses

you up like photo shoots. So she's a professional makeup artist and she will either do like photo shoots with you, or she'll just take you for a walk if you want to walk around the city, or she'll take you to lunch or take you shopping or take you on a night out. She kind of provides a service where you know she's got for maybe people like myself, also maybe married people or somebody. Do you have to do it in secret and she gives her a whole experience

to people. So we had the money. Honestly, you see how bad I am with with words. I called a fucking hat a bid day Jesus life coach. She's like your boy to be girl's life coach. I think she's more like a photography like getting people think she'll take you around, So I'm assuming she's like taking it around like while you're dressed up right, Yeah, yeah, of course club. Yeah, so it's kind of for confidence, like a big thing.

I think people have maybe a life coach. Then the people are worried about is not passing, you know, is being out and people recognizing that they're a guy and then being either maybe aggressive or not nice, but just you know, it becomes uncomfortable. I'm five ten. You just take that into American metrics? Is that way? I was thinking, which one you do? I forgot and so and in heells, you're so like a solid like six too, yeah, which is a good thing. That was really bad in China

because everything very bad. But here, I mean, I mean here she talks about it all the time, Like the women in meat packing are always like six ft, the all the models here. But yeah, so that's that's good for me. Could you be with someone that didn't accept

sisy at all? It would be difficult. It depends. I guess if I really loved them and it was really what I wanted, I'd have to have to maybe sacrifice that, but it would certainly be difficult because I want to ask you that question, then is there something that Yeah? Is there something in the bedroom. Let's keep it in the bedroom. Is there something that if a partner would not allow you to do, you couldn't be with them?

As far as He's kind of like, I feel like it's very hard for it to happen being when I'm with men. But if someone didn't like dominating me, I couldn't be with them because I'd want it somewhere else. Okay, I think I could give it up, but like, probably not.

I also couldn't give updating women. That's why, which is it's so funny because I feel like that's why I have this hone in on swinging lifestyle because when I was talking to Eric, he hated that I liked women and thought that he would not be able to fully compensate me in the bedroom. And I'm like, listen, whoever I'm with has to accept that I like women, and ironically I like women by themselves, so that doesn't mean I'm gonna want to bring them into the bedroom all

of the time. Um, And so that's something that I think a lot of men would have to really find the confidence with dealing with that as well. I wonder though, like women that would like has anyone compromised for you and it didn't work out, You're like, oh, yeah, you don't like that a little bit. I suppose, Um, I don't know. I can't I can't really remember. One thing I could probably deal with would be fine is if they knew about it and accepted it but didn't want

to see it. So it's so, it wasn't that I was lying to the more something I had to hide it. It was just, honey, I'm sending you to the grocery store. Take your time, like you know, I need you to leave the house now. Just be like, you know, if she was, if she was I don't know, out the girls for the weekend or something, and then instead of me having to do it in secret while she was at she knew, right, you know, okay, I'm going to do this. You know she sort of knew about it

but just didn't want anything to do with it. That would that would be okay? Do you can you tell us about like your like the last bumble or the last Tinder or bumble date you went on, Like how did it go when as Sissy though not as Robbie. Uh so, yeah, they were the first, the only one I've been on as are you only been on one I know, well here only one so the dressed up. Yeah, it was. It was fun. As I said, we went to I can't remember the names, but a few different

bars in West Village. Um, and it was just it was a fun night. It was. It's obviously a little bit not racking. I met so I met them at the bar. So it been the first time that, you know, we shouted, but it's the first time I met them. So, you know, you never quite know what's gonna happen. Did you guys end up sleeping together? Did you kiss at the end of the day. We didn't sleep together, Um, but we did see each other again. We went we went out. So last week we went out and I

was Robbie. UM. So yeah, you know that's quite cool. I love it. Um. We have a question from one of our listeners. I wanted to if you could put your input on it. So this was something that someone I know asked me and she's like, she sent this in. Oh, I think I did see it in the d M Tech message. Okay, I think we got a similar question in the DM. So if my boyfriend is watching gay porn, should I be worried? Do I bring it up if I was the one who was sneaking around and found it,

and how do I handle it? Okay, So can I answer this, um, And then I would love to hear your response as well. So I actually was speaking to a guy about this who who identifies as straight UM and he does watch not only transgender porn with with t S girls, but he also watches gay porn. And we had a long talk about this and I was like, uh, are you curious? Is there's something you're trying? You know

that you want to try? And he broke it down to say that even in straight porn, the the way men are programmed, and even the way straight porn is filmed, they do a lot of accentuation on the dick, the dick going into the vagina, the guy getting a blowjob, and so he likes a good looking cock, if that makes sense. And I hate the word cock, but that's

kind of what he said. Yeah, So he's like, Um, the way we're programmed with watching porn and being even in the locker rooms, they all just flawn it like they see dicks all the time and it's nothing to them. But the way some men are programmed, they enjoy looking at nice ones, and so maybe he hasn't reached to the point because I have men in my phone who want to see other dicks that are in my phone. They want to see other dicks that I fused, and

they want to they want to talk about it. The size, if it hurts me, if I like it, how don't think it means he's gay. He's I don't think it's he's gay either. I don't think you have to be even curious. So I've been watching some TS porn. I've tried, like it doesn't get my pussy as wet. I just can't stating it's doing for me, but like it's it's

particularly the couple ones. The only one I can watch is TS Ashley Madison, and she is a a t S woman in d C. She sets up the camera in hotels and she she fox Yes, she fox straight black men, and she has a huge dick. I think that's my problem with TS girls is their dicks aren't big enough for me to really watch. I said the hormones. I'm thinking, yeah, the hormones like probably make it smaller or you can't get hard. You don't know this answer

the day. I don't think it's definite that you can take, and I think you can go because it is it's like it can't get hard a lot, or it's not that I'm thinking, it's the hormones that kind of sucks you up. You can got all this estrogen and you're not testosterone, so it's probably well, yeah, I know, I can't even watch porns with little Dick Niggason, so I'll be like, um, next, well, I hopefully he's the bottom, particularly when the guy is like going down on on.

I do like seeing that. Actually, right, what is it? I don't know, maybe because you low key want to see a man suck at it. Yeah, I watch a cock. Yeah that's what it is. I don't know. So, um, what do you think? Do you think that she can ask your woyfriend about it if she snuck around oh asking? Yeah, I don't know about that part, because she said she had to sneak in it. She was looking through his computer for something else and found that. What do you

say she does? I say, next time they're watching porn, she just puts on that's a good idea, and then be like babe, I just want to sit here like I don't want to bug you out and freak you out. But I've been watching this lately, do you mind? And I ain't gonna lie, like I'll be telling because guys want me to put my porn on all the time, and I'll tell them straight up, it's not the porn you want to see. Player, it's not the porn you

want to see. And I've told guys what type of porn I've watched, and I've had a response before that watch whatever gets you off. And so to me, that's him saying he don't mind seeing no two dicks bang, but I don't know what would be here. What was your advice to her? Definitely, don't let him know you're snooping. I was like, I don't, don't tell, don't look. Yeah,

Robbie shaking his head to like, don't do it. So I think the common thing right when women are worried about their guy being gay is oh my god, I thought he was manly or whatever. So just tell you what he looks like. He's six eight and he plays football or football basketball, huge makes sense, bralic guy. And she's like, this is gonna suck me up. I'm like, dude, why, Like he's been to jail. That's the biggest Like, that's like, well,

probably why she's freaking worried. He was probably knocking boots behind the board. Well, I told her, like, if it, I don't really see how I could suck you up. It's just like, well, when we had the buy couple on the problem, maybe if he's the bottom, if he's yearning to have his ass played with and might be going out to get it, remember, he was like, you don't have to be worried if you're you know, if he's the top, it's the bottoms you have to worry about.

And so, like I said, I think the good thing would be to play the porn, but maybe even to just when he's okay watching it, start asking questions we talked about all the time. Communication is key. Now, would she stop sucking with him if he's bisexual, that's on her, but I think it's important for her to communicate with him and make him comfortable to where he doesn't have to hide that he watched the new development she moved

to the country. He's playing basketball, and because they're getting married, and she's like, I've never seen this after four years, I'm like, fuck, um, yeah, I like the watching porn. And then I'm talking like he'd be like what if he was right here? And I think it's something you should talk to her about, Like, well, would you be uncomfortable if he says he has curiosity about dealing with men? Is that something she wouldn't be She said she doesn't

know yet. I don't think it's a big deal. Really. Well, you and I are a little bit different than majority of here we are with Robbie, I matched, Um, yeah, I don't know. So all right girl, Um so I want to know. Um, I guess for our listeners, where can they search for Sissy if you want to? Do you want to make it open for our listeners? Um?

So I have was She has an Instagram Instagram account which is Sissy under School made under School Alice, So yeah, you can you know the photos and stuff on that. It's an interesting yeah, especially with like you walking like the catwalk. I love that one. And UM will of course be posting um we already have posted a picture of Sissy to get questions from you guys. UM, but we'll be posting it again the week um that this episode drops, and we'll also put the information where you

can find him in the description of this podcast. I also wanted to go ahead and shout out all of our patrons, Um, thank you guys, so so so so so so so very much for all of your um subscriptions donations, saying thank you for your money, you know, thank you for your points. You keep your paying because we're in the studio right now and it's nice and there's air conditioning and water and yeah, yeah it's one. And also, um, I'm not sure if we've released it

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backslash horrible decisions. Um for a very few little tiny bit of dollars that you make, honey, you get bonus content, a bonus episode, and you get to see the full video for these episodes. Now there is not a video of Robbie's face, but there's us making a face every time, you know, like what and I'm sitting but I want to thank you for coming. I like, I really thought you weren't gonna show up. I've never thought She literally was like, can you have a backup because I don't know.

I just can't believe you're here. I was definitely nervous. Is still a little bit of She's the first time I know you said it over and over. You're like, I'm so nervous, and like, can't you know? I love it? And this was easy and I think all of our listeners may get their panties. We listening to your accent because we like accents in America. That was the first just saying you're like, I'm Robbie from the Like fuck yeah.

She was so excited to see you, Like I just love his accent and I'm so excited we're gonna have this accent. On the show, she was talking about you like you were an accent, like because I don't have an accent. You it is. It's this is an audio thing, right, So, like we're sitting here in this room, but people have their headphones on or they're at their desk where they're in their house, and like you hear something different to you that's for like we say Robbie, you say Ruby.

It's different, you know, I just say okay. Um, guys, if you want to go ahead, and if you want to go ahead and follow us, you can follow us on Instagram at Horrible Underscore Decisions. Also, don't forget to go ahead. And we now have a Twitter page that is ran by Wheezy, so y'all stop adding me on Twitter if you want to reach um Wheezy on Twitter. She's running the Horrible Decisions Podcasts Twitter page and you can follow that and tweet Wheezy Hoss at Horrible pod Um.

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