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Ep34: 50 Shades of Play Feat King Noire

Nov 03, 20171 hr 3 min
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While Weezy continue's to tour Japan, Mandii is joined by Master Fetish Trainer Kink Noire. We finally gave a break to the "F-ck Boys" and brought a man on the show who aims to please. King Noire discusses what it's like being a man in the sex industry, polyamorous dating, and tells a story about one wild "threesome" Guest: @KingNoire on IG/TWITTER For more King Noire, visit: www.royalfetishxxx.com JetSettingJasmine.com HasanSalaam.com (Music) Also, thank you again for all of the support! Early Bird tickets for the Live Show are OFFICIALLY sold out! We will be releasing only 25 more tickets NEXT WEEK so please be on the look out! Purchase your early bird raffle tickets at whoreibledecisions.eventbrite.com Follow our instagram page and keep in touch @Whoreible_decisions @fullcourtpumps @weezyWTF

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Speaker 1

Thank you. Tell me another song. You don't know you? You don't know this Pretty Ricky closer Baby, I want to get to you. Have to know Pretty Ricky. I'm so I mean, I know who Pretty Ricky is. I can't say I got the album, so I'm not gonna lie. I think I'm putting myself in the movie because Pretty Ricky comes to New York, UM November twenty something, and I'm still trying to go to the concert, and I have no one to go with because they're like Pretty

Rickies back together. I am obsessed with um, Pretty Ricky. Now, I'm gonna have to send you the album because I'm sure it would be great to make love to. UM. It's one of those times. I mean, I can't throw it on in none of my movies. They'd sue the funk out of Okay, well you personal person, I only have sex on camera. I'm just playing. Yeah, I'm sure you are. Anyways, guys, UM, I wanted to say, Hi, welcome to you another episode of Horrible Decisions. This is

your girl. Mandy and I am in the studio kind of solo. Wheezy is still in Japan, UM, but we had a guest who came up to the New York City area and I was like, bro, we're getting him on the Mother Package show. She was supposed to call in, but she is super jetlagged and she's been out there for like two and a half weeks. Um, so you guys just get to hear me and all of my rats. But luckily I have someone to cut that outside kind of sort of. Um, I guess I'll introduce our guests.

We have King Noir in the building. Um, do you want to let our listeners know kind of just briefly what you do. We're gonna do a little icebreaker and then really get into the good stuff. But how would people know you? What do you do? Well? I am one of the co owners of Royal Fetish Films, Royal Fetish x x X dot Com, jet Setting, Jasmine, Body Altitudes, and some people probably know me from some music stuff,

but I go by my actual name, Hassan Al. So between all of that, you've probably seen me on X videos somewhere, porn whatever, whatever, you're whatever you're you know, jerk offices, you know where you rub one out too, Okay, So and you do a little bit of everything in the industry. So we're gonna get into that. That's kind of going to be the horrible decision. You being a man in the industry, we have yet to have you know,

anyone like you on. So I think we have a lot of questions to come forward, but we're gonna start with ice breakers. And so what we like to do with our guests, we either like to do would you rather? Or have you ever? Clearly I'm not gonna do have you ever with you because I don't think there's much you probably haven't done. Um, So we're gonna do the would you rather? And I got some kind of sex questions, um to make this fun. So would you rather only

be able to have sex missionary or doggy style? Mm hmm. That's actually a really good question. I would I would actually say missionary really if I had one choice, because you know, you could throw the legs up on the shoulders. That's still missionary, right, Yeah, that's still missionary. That's so crazy, because of course me, I like love doggie style. I mean I would probably choose I just think that missionary if if it's just like for the rest of my

life type situation. You know, the thing about mission every is for when you get you could look in your partner's eyes and be all romantical and stuff. But also it's good for clatoral stimulation and also hitting the G spot as well. You're you know, you're very right. As soon as as soon as I said that, I thought of the intimacy level that differs between doggy style and missionary and I guess you're right. I still like getting back. But I mean, you you gave me one of the

other this or that you can't choose. Well, so here's a good one. Because you just talked about like some Russian roulette ship right there. It kind of is that. Well, all of these kind of are So you just talked about clatorial stimulation. So the second question is for play only with your hands or for play only with your mouth? Mouth? I love to eat, okay, so but you use fingers

when you do it as well. And I mean, yeah, but you gave me a one of you would choose the mouth, okay, So here's a good one as well. Would you rather give up sex for a year or give up master? You said no whatever whatever that so you would give up masturbating for a year. That was the other. I mean, I love myself and all, I like the participation of sex. You're not giving up sex for a year at all. What's the longest you would

give up sex for? Why this is horrible? This is you didn't tell me about this, this line of question, and was gonna be so so hard. I know, for the longest I would give it up for. I mean, just whatever was natural, Like if I was just in the space where I wasn't having sex at the time. Okay, Okay, I know I go two weeks without sex and I feel like it's months, So I don't know about a year without sex. I'd be like, I'd be like I'd be telling my home girls. I'd be like, girl, I

haven't had sex and forever. They'd be like, girl, you was just went some and so three. I was like, oh damn, I was wasn't I'd be feeling it. I'll be feeling awful when I don't be having sex. So now we're gonna make it a little bit funnier. This is kind of this is kind of gonna be not as stressful, not as horrible. Would you rather cry every time you had sex or birth every time someone kissed you?

I'd rather burt because that should probably be mad funny at a certain point, and I have sex way too much on time, or to be just crying all the time, that'd be a bad look. This motherfucker's romantic comedies are awful. You're right, that's a funny one. Um, oh that's for me. I don't even know what that one. Maybe maybe the bird Actually, you know what, I don't get recorded on the hill, And because I like doggy style so much, they possibly won't see the tears coming down my face.

So I think I'm gonna take that. I would rather cry every time I had sex, and so this is gonna be the last one. Would you rather find out that someone you fucked was your long lost cousin or that they were a brutal murderer. I'd rather than be a murderer then your cousin? Is that? But does that kind of because if we have kids, they might have like web toes and a uni or something. Ever, is that part of incests? Like cousins? Did they go that far?

It's not just sisters brothers, and I don't personally, I won't be hollering at my cousins. I don't know if I didn't know if that counted because it's like, aren't cousins through like marriage and ship. I don't even want to bark down. Okay, we can't. I don't know how many generations. Okay, so incests is not cool. You know you're not here for them. You know, it's a huge fetish online. Actually, um, incest porn doing serious numbers right now,

but they're not actually related. You know. I'm sorry. If I've ruined somebody's fantasy, that'd be crazy. Though people would like providing a birth certificates. Yeah, no, I don't family tree porn or something. I would be lying if I sat here and said that I didn't kind of click taboo porn sometimes and that would definitely be at Unfortunately, Um, and this is just on a sexual manner. I don't want to offend anyone listening, but I have this kind

of rapey fantasy. You can't find rapey porn really, like, it's really hard to find. And just the idea of like, you know, maybe someone taking control. Yeah, it's just and it's really a thing we're gonna talk about. I'm sure it's gonna be a kink coming up in the future, but I know it's just a real sensitive thing to talk about I think the thing is to say when you when you're watching porn, it's uh, you know, it's a controlled environment. So anybody that's on set, you know,

they've spoken a safety word. They let everybody know what their limits and hard nose are and things like that. So even even with insects porn, you know, it's still all okay at the end of the day, you know what I'm saying, Like, it's it's enjoyed a fantasy, but everybody is still safe. Okay, guys. Now, So what we like to do every episode is doing kink of the week. So I made the kink apply directly to you. Um.

And so the kink for this week is flogging. UM. So for our listeners that don't know, of course, we like to give the definition. So flogging is mainly an S and M termin terminology. Flogging is used UM to whip for sexual enjoyment. It says that a floggers shall remain for the moment any flexible, any flexible many tells striking tool, where the tails are simple strips of leather

or similar substances designed for use on the human body. UM. And so you've brought a couple Um, this is I guess I want to explain to the listeners how someone would find us enjoying, how you got into doing this, and if it's something that's requested, because I'm not gonna lie. I'm looking at these right now and I'm absolutely like, what the fun is this? What's going on? And I've seen the videos of you doing flogging. I want to know how that I can't see how I would be

sexually aroused by it. So explain, you know, flogging for our listeners. If you can't, well, I guess started doing it. Actually. I was at that come one year and I saw somebody using this style of flogger, Like I got two floggers up here. So this is considered a nun chuck or a swivel flogger. So I used to do martial arts as a kids. I was like, oh, that looks like a nun shuck. I can rock with that, like,

but it's actually the precision of it I enjoy. And actually it's more of a thud than a whip Like this right here is a dragontail that has a lot. It's a lot more like. The feeling you'll get from that is like if somebody rolled up a towel and smell and snapped you with a towel like that's what that's that kind of feeling. It can hurt. This is yeah, this is like a double folded leather paddle, so that's that's more of a smack. This one is padded, so

this side is softer. This side it's harder. So I understand the arousal from pain when I'm getting fun, especially from the back. I asked to be slapped on the ac so I get that arousal. But the flogging isn't painful, correct, It's more of a thud. So you use the perfect example when when we're turned on sexually. You know, if someone just ran up to you in the middle of the street and just smacks you want to ask. For the most part, you like, what the fund is wrong

with you? Exactly exactly. But when you when we're turned on, our body starts to release dopamine and adrenaline that goes through our body that lets us know, uh, this is this is pleasurable or this isn't you know something that that has to deal with your fight, fight or flight. So with flogging being that it's more of a thud when I start when we try out. You know, I start up, I start up at the shoulders. There's certain places that you can't hit, certain places you can't hit.

What those I got you, So we start We start up at the shoulders because the shoulders, there's muscle up there and it's the closest spot to your brain. So when it starts releasing all that adrenaline and dopamine, it starts to relax you. So it's kind of similar. I think it's like Shiatsu massage where they kind of do this. It's very similar to that. So just that in itself is relaxing to people. So that's part of where the arousal comes from. And then when you work your way down,

you skip all those vital organs. You don't hit the spine right when you get to meaty parts of the body, so the ass thies. Some women, uh specifically like to get flogged on their breasts. Um, So when you get down to that area, there's there's something that we have down there, both men and women. It's called the podendal nerve. It's for men. It's where it's a real scientifical you know scientifical word it is, right, But it's like for for men, where where the taint is or for women,

where the lady taint is. You know that's there's a nerve right there that when it when it feels like vibes. It's the same kind of thing is when you get spanked when you're feeling turned on. It sends that nice little shock wave through your ass and and through your through your insides. So it's that same kind of feeling.

So if you start getting flogged the right way, it starts sending them same kind of waves through your body, just like there's a proper way to spank, like if you spank up as opposed to spanking down or side or there's different ways to send different sensations through the body. So it's rhythmic also, like the same way you like getting pounded when that nice rhythm is going. I'm also really big on communication, Like normally I asked to be

you know, slap my ass. I tell them, is this something that normally a female or would ask a guy to do? Or is this something that a guy normally introduces? It could go either way. It could go either way. It's usually a dumb sub kind of thing. But there are people I know who like getting flocked that wouldn't consider themselves to be a sub. They just like the

sensation and the feeling of getting flocked. And it could be something that for you who said earlier that you're not really into being a sub or anything, you can still speak on like if with the person that you're working with, if you're like, yo, I'm not don't just tell me what to do or whatever, like, you can still be communicative with your with your partner, like this is what I want to try. Please don't go past

this limit. You know, when I when I work with people for the first time, I'm asking them what they're what they're pain tolerances. You know, let's say you have injury, things like that. There are certain questions I'm going to ask you to make it a pleasurable experience. Lethal lips Um came on the show and we discussed the scene with you, and she actually said it was one of the most enjoyable but also mentally hard scenes for her because she's more dominant and she actually had to be

submissive to you. Um, how how does that work? Are you ever submissive to a woman? Are you constantly the dom in the bedroom? Like? Do you know what I mean? Like as a man dom are you always I think the scene with Lethal it was something that we both spoke about. It wasn't like I just showed up there was like you're about to submit. It wasn't nothing like that.

It was she we we discussed like usually with with UH, a lot of our scenes when we work with with well known actors and acts, you know, we we like to say we want to try something that you've never tried before, or or a fetish that you're really in to that you know, maybe you haven't done on a film that you love in your personal life, to show the real honesty in you, in your in your sex. So she was like, you know, I've I've thought about it. I kind of like that chain thing that I've seen

you used before. Like so it's kind of like that. But um me, I'm not a sub but I do work. I guess where you would say, like an equal level, I don't. I don't sub, but there is a certain amount of power in submission as well, because a person who's a true do like I'm considered more on the central side of dominant. I don't do dominant, UH. I don't dominate to cause injury or hurt. That's not my style. I do it because I enjoyed pleasing so much. So it's like I look at it like a blank canvas.

So if if a woman is willing to give give give me her body and allow me to just try to take her to different levels of pleasure and pain and ecstasy and all of that, then there is still you still control the sit the scene of having your safety word. You still control the scene of even just being there and allowing me to paint this picture. So you mentioned that you spoke with me the lips before you speak with everyone. Um so, something that you do

you consider yourself a master fetish trainer. So I want to talk about what you do when you come into the bedroom with couples, because not everything you do is on scene, it's not it's not on film. Not everyone can see what you do. Um So, I wanted to get into this part of the industry that you're in. So couples pretty much ask you to help them in the bedroom. What do you do? How how do they approach you about that? And what exactly do you do to help them? Are you fucking the couples or are

you I don't know. You do a lot of ships, so explain to our listeners what a master fetish trainer does well. The best way to describe a master fetish trainer is is everybody has a fetish, but a lot of people don't know what that is. They don't know how to discover what it is, and they don't know how to live it. A lot of times there are people and I think that one of the problems in the world that we live in is that so many people are sexually repressed. Absolutely, I mean across the board.

I mean women are sexually oppressed in this culture. But then on top of that, individuals sexually repressed themselves. And sometimes it's because of that oppression, and other times it's just because of how we were brought up or just things that go on in our head. So sometimes it's like people have this epiphany or an awakening where they're like, I just want to try things. But if you don't know how to use some of these things that we

have on the table, you can seriously hurt somebody. You know, if someone's just like I'm a flog for the first time, and you know, I just hit somebody in the kidney, you know what I mean, Like that's not gonna turn out good. So one of the things that that we do as master Fetish trainers is guide people through trying

out different items, toys, role playing scenarios. One of my favorite things that we did recently, Jasmine and I worked with a couple where the woman was more experienced in b D s M, like she knew who she was

as a sub. She wanted her man to be more dominant, and he was like cool guy, like super chill, like he was just like, you know, like but but then like we got to speak to them, and you know, I'm talking to him and like finding out more about his personality and what he's into and his interests and all that, and I'm like, well, if yeah, yeah, into

he was into like a role play type game. And I was like, well, if you're into that in your every day then you could seriously use that in the bedroom, in a in a in a more creative way to please your lady, you know. And it's and it's and it's definitely there are a lot of men out there who are like, I don't want to choke my wife or spank my wife because I don't want to hurt her. And I'm like, well, there's a difference between choking somebody to end their life, you know, and just choking them

to add a little pressure because it heightens orgasm. Some people like to have that feeling of having just just having their air cut off for a little bit. There's different level. I just talked about this on my IG Live. I was like, I don't want to die because I got choked too hard during sex. There's there's but there's

different levels to it. Like some people are extreme, They're like put a plastic bag over my head, you know, like I really want to have trouble, have trouble breathing, and then other people like I just like a little bit of pressure around here. I don't want to bruise, you know. And there's and there's ways to teach somebody how to do that in a way that's not going

to injure somebody. So that's that's one way. Another way is I actually engage in domination for them and maybe flogging or spanking or whatever whatever their their role place scenario whiz, and I take them to the point where it's time for them to do their thing and I'll make my way out. Oh wow. And so these are done whether in a hotel or in the privacy of their own home or something like that, so it's not done with a whole bunch of camera crews or any

other people. They literally call you to help them open up in the bedroom. And I think that's that's very important. Um, not only that you do that, but just I mentioned it all the time on the show, just the level of communication, because if she was expressing that she really likes being sub and she wasn't getting that in the bedroom, I think that is what leads a lot of people

to stray away sometimes from their partners and cheat. And because we do all have these fetishes or we have these craving sexually that we do need to have done, I guess to get it out of our system. You know, you said the right word. Communication is key in any relationship. To make any relationship better, whether it be some B d s M. Polly Swinger, or your friendship or your relations ship with your people at work, whatever the case is, if you don't speak on it, chances are it won't

happen for you. So let me ask you this question. I guess before UM, we had a ton of questions that are listeners sent in, But I guess I want to ask you, So you do the master fetish training, you do um engage in porn? Do you also provide services to women who just want to hit you because they need sex or they want to experience what they're not getting trying to get me arrested? Out the questions,

that's what you'd be like, I guess I can't ask it. So, but what do most women ask from you if they're reaching out to Kingowa. I do erotic touch massages. I get a lot for fetish training, because that's that's probably the main one now, because people are interested in experiencing a dom subsituation or b D s M situation where they're safe. Oh okay, Like it's super easy to find

me on the internet. Is really easy to know that I'm I'm I'm a person who you know, even outside of the the sex industry, who has a public persona. You can look me up. You can see that I'm You know, if I was a creeper, I would not have been in this industry as long as I am. I love that you kind of just segued into my next question when i't even have to ask you. So I wanted to ask what the misconception is Um, for

you being a man in the sex industry. I know that you know, you being a porn star or everything involving sex, that there's kind of a stigma attached to it, or a stereotype about maybe someone being a creep. So how do you adjust when you meet someone and say, hey, this is what I do for a living. Um, yeah, if you want to talk talk, I think you're like, it's funny because when it comes to porn, whether you're male or female, there's kind of like this, that's what

you do. I would never do that. But then there's also their next sentences. He's like, anybody could do that, and I'm like that, how does that work? Anybody could

do it, but you could never do it. I think that people have so many stigmas attached to sex, so some people automatically they find out I do porn, they think that I don't know, like I'm just gonna bombard them with dick pigs, or I don't know what it is like, and and and and usually or that I can't have a conversation outside of sex, Like I wound up in this industry because I'm uneducated, or I wound up in this industry because I have like a drug problem or something like that. Like I heard a lot

of them are like felons and can't get jobs. That's what I've heard. That's a misconception. I mean, I definitely in this industry have met people from all walks of life, the same way if I work that I don't know, costco or something. It meets people from all walks of life.

And you know, I mean there's some people I know in the industry who who left like corporate jobs or jobs on Wall Street to do porn, you know, and then you'll meet uh, women who were I know, it's one woman she was like a serious, serious, like e R nurse and she was just like the job got too stressful, and you know, she wound up in porn and and it's just like so you'll be on set with her and she'll be talking about like all kinds of things about the human body or or we're talking

about talent testing or something, and she's like the talent testingat and they do this and this this is how they check your blood and they separate the blood from the plasma and all this stuff. I'm like, wow, that's amazing, and it's it's cool and she just knew all of

these different things. And I think that especially now in this day and age where anybody could make their own porn with their phone, you find people quite a few, you know, you know, like since anybody can do that, it's opened up the industry to even more people with from even more ranges of like connect pal um and just all of these little apps that allow people to subscribe to subscribe to only fans dot com slash. So, aside from the misconception and the stigma surrounding it, how

is dating um? And I guess this can see also into you being polyamorous, are open to that? So how is dating while being in the sex industry? Is it impossible? Is harder? I don't think it's impossible, But I find myself very much not dating civilians for the most part, someone who's not in the industry. My sister who's in the army. I'm like, don't call it civilians, but in the in the sense of, you know, I've probably been tested within the last month more than most people have

in the last five years. Most people do not get tested, And to me, it's like I don't want to ruin my career, right, you know, So that's very important to me. And then also just just how when you get to those stigmas where And it's funny, I actually get more stigmas for being polyamorous than I do for being imporn. But the main one from porn that I get when I meet women is that they somehow have to save me from being important. That sounds like men trying to

save strippers. Yeah, and I'll be I'll be like, I don't want to be saved. So okay, so you're not currently looking because you are in a polyamorous relationship? Correct looking for? Like? I guess, like, how does that work? Yeah? So I guess breakdown because we have so I'm into kind of the swinger lifestyle. That's kind of what I would prefer, and Wheezy is in some sort of open relationship. We've been taggling as far as what exactly it is

um in comparison to I guess polyamory. So can you break down for our listeners what polyamory is and then how it works from the male perspective, because we have yet to have a male on here who's polyamorous. Well, polyamory just basically breaks down to loving more than one person. So I believe for myself, and this isn't something that you know, I think all humans or whatever like. For me, I'm just the type of person I like to get

to know. I like to get to know people. I like to meet women and like really know them, which you know, if I've done swinging thing, and swinging is cool for me to you know, my partner Jasmine is more of a swinger. I'm Polly, so I'm more like you know, I'll go out on dates or go hang out with people that I like or whatever, and I guess I'll break that down road and if we are, and if we are, if we're really digging each other, then there is a possibility for having a relationship with

that person. So Jazz, on the other hand, when you say she's more into swinging, she's not looking for that emotional connection as as you are, which I guess to break down to our listeners, that's the kind of difference between the swinging and the amory is these people, not only are you engaging in sexual activity with, you do want to know them and like them personally. As far as swinging, you're just like, Okay, well fucking I don't care to know your I don't want to know anything

about you. I think from I think for me also because you know, I started off like going to swingers clubs and all that kind of stuff. But it's like now that now that I'm shooting more films, it's like that aspect of like, hey, hello, how are you. We get it in and we're gone. Like I get that from work. So like, if I'm going to spend time with somebody, you know, I'm not really just trying to jump into bed with them, because you know, I just also have this thing now where it's like I get

satisfied on that aspect of getting to know the person. Yeah, I actually I like that getting to know somebody level. So if we have a lot of male listeners, and I'm sure they all have this mindset too, then maybe they want to get to know multiple women, not all of them. I know, I know some. I think that's a misconception as well, that all men want. Yeah, I know, I know a lot of men that are like strictly monogamous and happy momous for the for the men that.

But but I also know a lot of polyamorous women, you know, So I think that I think it's a misconception to just group men are this way, women are this. I think that it's just society wise, it's accepted for men to be like that and women aren't. Women are looked at differently if they're like that. So if a man wanted to try this for the first time, I feel like maybe he feels like he really relates to you and everything you're saying, how should he approach a woman?

How do you approach women? To let them know that honestly and just but most people don't know. Most people are honest, whether it's monogamy, polyamory, swinging, most people are lying the asshole. So I think if you're polyamorous, for one, you have to be honest with yourself in the sense of can you also have your partner go out and

date other people and sleep with other people? Because it's not polyamory if you and if you out there dating everybody and you're forcing your your significant other to only be with you, you're just an asshole. Now you're just an So from the other perspective, um, what is normally the reaction when you're meeting women, You have to let them know I do have a partner, but my partner

allows me to have other partners. What is kind of the exchange when that happens, you let them know where I say, yeah, I let them know up front, because I don't want to waste my time, because you don't want to get like down the road and you're like, oh, by the way. That's one of the things that I think is is problematic and why you know people wind up in these cheating situations because they're being sneaky with

who they are. I think this is where I run into a lot of the a lot of the things because I don't I don't really date as much as I used to because I'm super busy with work and all this other stuff. So meeting somebody is very specific to me, Like I know what I'm looking for in a in a in a person. So you know, if I meet a woman and tell her that, usually if their response is some kind of uh as if they're going to be in a competition with my partner, then

now I'm good, I'm walking away from that. Or if they I think most most women don't get past a certain point because they don't see that it is to me like an inclusive thing. It's not, and it's it's I don't want the women to have an issue with one another, because you know, if Jasmine was dating somebody, I don't want to have a problem with do like,

we should be cool? You know, they shouldn't not saying we got to hang out and ship, but it should be at least respectable, because if not, then how are you honoring the relationship that I'm already in. So there has to be a respect and an honor for the relationship I already have, and if and if it can't happen, then it won't happen. So when I speak to a lot of men on this um, they do exactly what you said. They think that they want this open relationship

or polyamory um relationship. But they're like, but she can't fuck other guys. She can fun girls maybe, but not other guys. Mentally, where are you with allowing? I guess I would say, how does it work? Yet? How do any human being to do what they do? I am not interested in owning, controlling, or telling anybody what to do, except when we are in a domb subsituation. But in your everyday life, that's your business and you should do what makes you happy. And I want to I want

to see a partner. I want to see my partner happy as she can be, regardless of whether we have been dating for years, we committed, or we just met. I want that person to be happy. And I for me, I don't think that one human at all times can fulfill everything another. So and and this and this is and this is where the poly aspect is different, because

I don't think it's just about sex. It's about just in general, Like there's certain people like me and you might vibe on something like really, well, we're just like yo. All of our music is the same. And then you find out I don't listen to pretty Ricky, and then you're gonna have to go to that pretty Ricky concert with somebody else. So why why would I hate on somebody else going to enjoy what makes you happy? You know what I mean? Like that to me? That, to me,

that's what it is. And it's not always sexual, Like I might meet somebody and will will be cool, and we'll vibe and we'll have some kind of emotional connection or intellectual connection and we don't particularly have to have sex, but we might have an intimacy with our conversation, or we might have an intimacy with you know, just the time we spend together. It doesn't exactly have to be about This sounds really actually good and it makes sense.

And I actually feel like the huge problem with people can't think this way. I guess two factors, ego and insecurity, because I've heard a lot of guys say that it would funk up their ego to know that they can't fully please a woman in every aspect, whether it's sexually or conversationally, and then to know that they have to go out and get that from somebody else. That kind of bothers people. And then the insecurity that they're not perfect for this other person. But and I also don't

think that I think perfection is perfect in its imperfections. Okay, that was just too I'm just saying, like, nobody nobody there, nobody's nobody's perfect in the sense of like, you're not going to find someone that likes every single thing that you like in every single moment that you like it. You're not going to find that. But the person that you do find that you that you love or you lust or you have this passionate intimate connection with, its

perfect in that moment. It's perfect in that on that y'all are together, but like trying to think that, you know,

it's we put so much pressure. And I think someone, um, someone I was speaking to recently says that, you know, human beings put the highest value on intimate love with your partners, but there's all kinds of other loves that are out there, So enjoy all of the love and then you won't put so much pressure on your partner because if you go hang out with like your cousin right now, I mean, I don't know because we talked about we talked at cousins. Let me go ahead and

throw that out there. I'm also not into incest, but like you know, if somebody goes to hang out with with their family member, you still you have love for your family. You got love for your for your people's or whatever the case being you. If somebody was like, I'm jealous of you're hanging out with your brother, like what you know what I'm saying. So it's we have but we have this thing that when somebody is in a relationship with us, that we sess them and then

that's not that's not love anymore. So I have a question from a listener, but I guess I'm gonna ask you to break it down. She actually said, do you engage in open or closed Polly relationships? Do you know if there's a difference or what that even means? What's the difference between an open and closed Polly relationship? She might be specifically talking. I mean, I would think that

if you're in a Polly relationship. Okay, some people in an open relationship like to share with their partner or tell their partner, like X, Y and Z and other ones that might be like, I went out, this is the person, we did this, that's it, you know. So maybe maybe she could mean along those lines. Okay, that would make sense. That would absolutely make sense to me. Okay, Um,

It's funny because everybody is different. Like for me, like Jazz, she when she shoots a scene or something like that with somebody else, I'm like, Oh, tell me all about it, you know. I'm like, I'm gonna go watch that ship when that should come out or whatever, you know what I mean. Like, I'm I'm very comfortable in that way, But then I know other people who are probably as like I just want to know that they're safe, even well, even in the swinging part of things. I think that's

the thing. Like I've had guys say I can never see you with another man, and you're sitting here saying you want to see the scene when it's done, So yeah, and I love it when she watched me mentally. Is there something that you do to prepare yourself, Like if a man did want to go to a swingers club or engaged with a couple and there was swapping happening.

Is there anything any type of advice that you would give a man to the same thing I said before, be honest with yourself, you know, if if whenever you're in any of these relationships, sit down with your partner, have a conversation about this is what I can this is what I can do, this is what I can't do. This is in the middle For me, there's some gray area. We'll see how it progresses, and how you feel sexually today might not be how you feel sexually a month

or a year from that. Like, sex is something that's constantly evolving, and that's one of the good things about

just being alive and trying new ship, you know. So I would say, if you know you can't, don't pretend that you can't, you know, especially when it comes to seeing seeing your partner with somebody, and it's another thing, Like it's funny because all this always leads to like, um horrible threesome uh stories that I've heard from people where it's like, yeah, I was so into it until I realized like she really really liked eating pussy and

I was just sitting there by myself. It's so funny because I think that that happens a lot with with threeasons, where they think they're ready mentally, and then when they're putting into the situation, it's just like what am I doing? What am I doing? What am I doing? What am

I doing? Has anything that could you think of any crazy stories or anything that kind of rings about it, Maybe when that happened like a crazy threesome story, either that or when you went to a couple and they thought they wanted to do the fattest training and then it turned kind of awkward. We vet people pretty well because it is such a personal like we we do consultation calls and all that, because sometimes people think they want something they don't. But I will say this, I

was in the weirdest threesome. It was like I was just talking about this with my brother. So like, I have I have met this woman and she was like, yo, it was this like years years and years ago, and she was like trying to like trying to get it in or whatever. So like I showed up at a house and she was like, so this is the situation. My man's in jail, he knows about you, he's on the phone, and he wants to be on the phone the whole time while we sucking. Wait. Wait seriously, I

mean I didn't. I didn't know what I was getting into when I got there. I mean there was three people involved. I mean he was he was via collect call from jail. But like it was, it was, it was different like to me this That's another thing, And that's why I'm using this as an example. There are many ways to have a threesome. You don't have to specifically, you don't specifically have to you don't specifically have to do the positions that you always see in movies or whatever.

Like when you have your threesome, you might want to go in steps. You might want to start with kissing and oral before you ever do penetration. Because just as some men get jealous of their women, some women get jealous watching their man have sex with somebody else. So at least if you were like, I'm stopping this right now while y'are kissing, it's not gonna be the worst thing in the world. So, I mean, but this was to me, I have to I have to get a

brother some credit. Like that's some creative way, you know, that was a creative way to to be there for your wife or whatever their relationship was. But it was it was just it was just so bugged to me because it was like I didn't know this was gonna happen. So it was just like in the moment, I'm like, what that is? Actually, that's really funny. UM. So I

guess we're gonna segue this into our homemail. So what we do is we ask our lovely whores who listened to us to send us letters, um, either asking for advice or telling us something that's going on with them. Um. And I thought that this would be a great one

to ask you. UM. So oh, by the way, if you guys do want to send in your homemail, you can send it to us at Horrible Decisions at gmail dot com or d m U S. But y'all, y'all becoming our friends so between the memes, the letters, the thank you's, and the responses to our I G stories, we can't keep up with the letters. So guys, please send your letters to the email. It's much easier for us to access. UM. So this is our homemale for this show. It says, hi, ladies right now, it's only

one lady. Hey girl. I am in my mid twenties living in Jersey. I have been right, shout out right, you're from there. Um. I have been in a relationship with my man for three and a half years. We have pretty good sex, but I have a huge problem. I have some hormone issues. Luckily it's not too serious, but my hormones caused me to have a very very low slash non existent sex drive for most of the

month during my period. My sex drive is way higher, but I would prefer not to funk on my period, yes, girl, because that is a bloody mess. My man. No, I hate bloody sex. My man knows about this, and he never forces me to do anything I don't want to do. But I also know a man has needs. I want to funk him more often, but it's hard to get into it when my drive is so low. Sometimes I watch porn when we're engaging to get me going. I don't want to do this every time we have sex.

Do you have any suggestions as to how I can get my sex drive up? And are there any afrodesiacs that you guys know that actually work? Please get back to me. Thanks. I love y'all. That's a good question. Good question, right, I would say, don't don't spare the romance. Actually, I mean just in the sense of I think a lot of times when when we think about being in the mood, it's being like put on the spot, especially if she has hormonal issues and things like that. Just

try to make it something that lasts. It doesn't exactly always have to end in penetrative sex. There's other ways that you can please him. There's other ways that y'all can keep that fire going instead of just kind of like cold turkey, like, hey, hey, I'm not in the mood. You know. Um, I think I think that that works. Definitely, have him, you know, work at turning you on, right, And I guess that kind don't want to add a question in there that relates to this, What about when

you're maybe not done? What do you do if you have a partner who comes and then doesn't get back hard again, but you haven't been pleased. I know you're really into pleasing um. But as a female I feel like that's happened to me sometimes where I feel like even after sex, I'm gonna go home or I have to masturbate to come, and I don't like the feeling where I'm not even being pleasure during sex. So for this, this is a sex drive issue. But what about for a man who can't keep up with your sex drive

and they're giving you sex, they're just not giving you enough. Well, I mean there's other things you could use besides your dick. You know, you got a tongue, You've got hands, you've got fingers, there's all kinds of toys out there. I think that a lot of times when I speak to women who have issues with their partner pleasing them, it's that once he busts, that nut is over, which is a lot of guys like just pick up and leave

or go to Yes. Also, it's like, if you know that you have like a time limit on your nut, then more for play or you know, stop and start and take your time. I think that that's I think that's one thing, especially if if you're somebody who gets really excited. It's a way to kind of calm that down a little bit, is you know if you most men, I would think, no, that that feeling you get like right before you about to like yeo, if I do

two more strokes, it's over, you know. And when you and when you get that feeling, that's when you fall back a little. God, you know, use your hands, use your tongue, kiss huh, find other things to do and play with so that way, you know your body will calm down again because it will do so and you can get right back to it. Okay, So I have another question, um, and then this will be it for the home mail. But I feel like we had to catch up on it. Um. So this is the second one.

This is kind of different, kind of the same. UM. I also want to shout out all of the fucking virgins that listen to us, y'all are in the real image. We get so many versions that write into us and it's just like what you want to listen to us talk about sex and you haven't even done yet. So this is a letter from a virgin. They might be getting some ideas or you know, can masturbate to this show so they don't have to go out there. The fact that people may be masturbating to us definitely creased

me out a little bit. But this is this is this one. Hello, ladies. I'm a twenty two year old virgin woman, and I have this major issue with sex. I'm not into anything. I'm not into anything vanilla except for white dick. I'm I'm into both men and women in different ways. I'm romantically attracted to women but sexually attracted to men. UM. That doesn't mean I don't find women sexy. I just wouldn't fuck one, though I am capable of falling in love with one, probably amory, maybe

a thing for her UM. When it comes to getting sexual with a guy, we just us doing all types of taboo stuff. The more perverted and taboo a man is, the more turned on I get. After sexting a guy for some time and finally meeting when it's time to get down, I lose my arousal and I have to leave due to my sudden lack of disinterest? What is

wrong with me? Love Love loved the podcast with you, ladies, all of the suck sas so we actually responded to her because she wanted to get um people sometimes use taboo and weird and they're talking about spitting in someone's mouth. So we actually um wrote back to her because we wanted to know what level of taboo and weird sex

she actually was turned on by. And she said to name a to name a few rape play incests, play age play, Omurashi, don't know what that is, exhibitionism, an anonymous encounters, pegging, and leash and neck I guess BDSM. So those are definitely um taboo things. I feel like even feel like that's taboo. I mean, I guess they file the incest and the rape and the play and even pegging. To me, that's kind of not normal. I

hate to use the normal not normal thing. And now I'm just so, I guess immersed in this world and it's like I hear about all this ship every day. But I think when she gets into the actual setting, I wonder if that conversation she was having that turned her on in the first place is still continuing them, because if it's like it's it if you just get there and then it's kind of like and then it's like you're just like a regular and it starts the

same way. Yeah, I could definitely see her her losing that feel like if she gets in person with somebody and they lost the character or they don't have their

strap ones ready for pegging or whatever. You know, Like, I could definitely see that being a turn off because you know, a lot of people after Shades of Great came out, I thought that they was like they thought that they were into B D s M just because of the way it was presented, or you know, like a lot of people have have kind of I mean, it's been a good thing for how many people have opened up their minds, but then it's also bad because the way it was presented is and actually how it

is in real life at times. So you know, depending on and I'm not saying this is her, but it could be another thing where just the the actuality of it, like something like I have a friend who she loves, loves not in the industry, but she loves. The only kind of porn that she watches is gang bang. That's it. That's all she watches her favorite poem. But she's like, I will never be in a gang bang, but that's

what I like to fantasize. So it could also be that like when she gets there and in place, you know, I would have to ask her a bunch of questions, like I want to get on that email thread I got, I gotta ask her a couple of questions because things that she's into are definitely things that there are other people out there that are looking for and and you know, I could also see, you know, if she's a virgin, she might also be like, is this is this safe for it to be the first time? And there's so

many factors that is like a lot of questions. Not only that I wanted to say. So her response back was fairly long, and it's actually funny because she felt the need to say, by the way, I don't contain rape, by the way, I don't want to my cousin, by the way I like So even though she is turned on by this stuff, she definitely felt the need to let us know I'm not rapey, I'm not you know, into intersts, I'm not into all of this stuff. And so I feel like maybe she's not even fully comfortable

with what she's into as well. I mean possibly, but I mean, just as you said before, though, these things that are considered to be taboo or not normal. It definitely makes people feel a certain amount of shame, whether they know they're into it or not, Like, oh my god, that I just watched that. I was turned on by that, Like is there something wrong with me that I got

turned on by that? And and that's why it's like where porn can be helpful to people, because it's like, this is something, you know, there are certain things in the world that are people. When we're in a car accident, people are watching the car accident as they go by, not just usually most people aren't watching to see to check if someone's okay. They're trying to look at carnage or something, you know what I mean, Like there's there's there's a certain part of humanity that's just like that.

And so sometimes when we do watch those things like oh my god, why why did I just watch that? Why did I look at that? You know, it's it's that sense of danger or just just the sense of people think this is wrong and I'm doing it anyway that can turn people on. So sometimes you know, we we bust that nut, we come back to reality like oh oh my god, hold hold hold hold up, hold up.

So we also um in our home I wanted to read this as well, because I think it just shows even what this conversation can do UM to both our male and female listeners. So we got a letter UM and it said, I love you guys. Literally started listening to you guys a few days ago, and the first day I felt so unbothered and so sexually free from listening to you guys talk about sex and just hearing how freely you guys think about sex that I decided to come out to my fiance. He's male and I'm female,

but I'm bisexual. He's the only person I've ever had sex with and he is incredibly open minded sexually. Anyway, before I ran too much, I just wanted to thank you guys for that because I come from a West Indian family, so coming out to my fiance he's American, was terrifying for me. He didn't care and loved it. I'm looking forward to the three stoms we're gonna have. I feel like a weight has come off from my shoulders. So thank you definitely was definitely will stand for you

guys from now on. Thank you. Bisexual, bilingual and bipolar covered UM, and I just think that it's super great congratulations. While we like to sit here and make you guys laugh and entertain you, I definitely know that this is the conversation where you like, like you said, people are uncomfortable still with this, and luckily books like fifty Shades of Great have gotten people a little bit out of

their boxes. And that's kind of what we hope to do with the show is do the same and get you guys thinking and have these conversations with your partners. I mean, this world will be such a better place if people allowed their sexuality to just be free. I think that. I think that's one of the things that we're seeing just in society right now. You know, all these all these people are getting they riled up. They're not just getting riled up people getting called out right now.

You know a lot of people are getting called out. And you know, this male dominated uh yeah, patriarchal society is being shaken. And then now you see, you know, all the tiki torches out there. They're they're getting scared of that. And you know it's funny because like when I look at like Trump, for example, like whether the darcier is true or not, whether he likes to get pete on or not. He definitely hates women like he

hates women. He thinks that women are only objects. Based on his hatred for women, he can only see them in a capacity where they're beneath him because he is I mean not just the horrible human being, but who knows what kind of sexual issues that he has going on. And I mean he's also extremely obsessed with a black man. He's obsessed with a level that's very, very odd. Yeah,

it's super uncomfortable for me. And I think that, like you know, when you when you look at those two things together, I'm like wow, Like I think there's there's some interesting, interesting things that's going on, and you know America, and it's repression of sexuality and and also at the same time is over use of sexuality for selling everything, and then the exploitation of sexuality when it comes to

people of color. It's just it's all like hitting the fan right now because because it's It's also like when I listened to how these fans speak about NFL players, you know, like I saw Brothers Jersey out and it automatically takes me to you know, the way when um, like when they burned Kevin Durants jersey, and whenever whenever a white player leaves a team, they don't burn his jersey. So it takes you automatically to lynching. And what did they do when they lynched this, They would cut off

our reproductive organs, you know. So it's it's all coming to and just hitting the fan. And it really comes down to, like people, I commend her for coming out of the closet. I think every single person needs to come out of the closet. Not not people. People think that only if you're gay or bisexual you could come out the closet, not as a as a straight man,

you can come out the closet. But saying like yeah, I like to get pegged, or yeah I like to be handcuffed, or I'm polyamorous or whatever whatever you are.

And I think that that's one of the things now that because women have taken a lot of strides in society to where you know, first of all, having the same job, showing that a woman could do anything that a man can do mentally on the same level as men, and all these different things, a lot of men are feeling their sexuality is under attack, you know, like, oh, if she can do that, well, then how am I

a man? The masculinity that a lot of men are scared they're gonna understand why men are just assuming things will demasculine or what the emasculator emasculating. There you go, that word. Goddamnit, that word, but that that specific word is always brought up if you mentioned even but play with a guy or licking the butter finger in the butter pegging or anything that they can you know kind

of coin is quote unquote gay. And it's just like, I don't understand why where the masculation comes in into all of these things. And I think always people like when we have these conversations, I'm like, but do you masturbate? So why are you touching that guy? Because like people make people will make everything they people make everything gay, like to the point where I'm just like, I don't

even understand. I don't even understand this anymore. Like, if you're doing that with a woman, then you're doing that with a woman, and that's your that's your choice. And if you do have uh you're bisexual or you are gay or whatever, that's not the worst thing you can be. That doesn't make you not a man anymore, Right, and which is what I said. And I don't even think people realize, like there's a ton of masculine gay men. So this idea that your masculinity will be what is

this do you guys? Are y'all born with like a tag of masculinity? Why do people think it can be removed? I don't understand, Like, because it's only with him self, right, you don't have a masculinity level to everyone out in the world. I just don't understand why this is the issue. I think it's it's extra in America. It's very extra in America, and I think it it goes back and not to not to take it to you know, history

lesson in Egypt stuff, you know what I mean. But I definitely think America's like, you know, I gotta have the biggest guns. I gotta have the this, that, and the other to be a man because men oppressed women here and now there's this guy's of equality and women are not having that bullshit no more. So it's like, well, if we're equal, then how come I don't get paid

the same for the same work. So then now it becomes well, if a woman makes the same money as me, I'm not gonna be the breadwinner, and then how does that make me a man? Because I don't bring home the bacon and this I don't give a funk. I don't eat pork, so I ain't even worried about that.

But it's just like, you know, but I mean just in the science, but I mean just in that that that that mentality that as the man, you know, you're still a man, you still have It's funny like they hold on a lot of men hold onto everything except the honor part. Yeah, you know, just you you your if your honor is there, your honorable man. You were stand up dude, you would stand up dude, you know, and your your wife making more money than you doesn't

make you a stand up real jersey saying that. By the way, dude, you just got a real fucking jersey with that. But no, I get everything that you that you're saying, and I'm so glad um that you could come on and kind of kind of break this down. We've had so many I don't want to say it, but fun boys on the show lately, Um, and we've actually people have been asking can you have a real

man on the show? And I definitely feel like you signify that and you've been able to help I think every listener with this episode and with everything that you had to share. Um So, I guess what I wanna do is where can all of our listeners find you? Because they're gonna be they're gonna be searching that your your Google ratings are about to go up because they've about to be googling your ass um So where can they find you on social media? And I guess your

website and all of that. Where can they can find me on social media at King the Ward that's k I N G N O I R or forms of social media. Then Royal Fetish x x X dot com make sure you pay for your poorn. Royal Fetish Films is co owned by jet Seton, Jasmine and I and we actually put cameras in the hands of women producers or women, so we have a lot of different uh, I mean, we have we have male cameraman and producers too, but we actually have a lot of women who helped

create our films. And that's one thing that is lacking in porn because it's like it's kind of like you watch porn and it's the same angles, it's the same everything over and over again. And you know now and and this goes for men as well. You know, not all of us look at sex the same way. So definitely check out Royal Fetish xxx dot com. We we won two awards last two years in a row best full Length Feature Films at at the Fetish Awards. Uh,

definitely go to jet Setting Jasmine dot com. We do fantasy flight parties for couples, for singles and then also private fetish training. So you know, if you ladies want to have your bachelor rette, dudes want to have a bachelor party, we do goals, we do couples parties. Does we do everything that is legal? Everything everything legal out there. He accepts donations, roses. You know. Um, but I again

thank you for coming on. We are going to go ahead and include everything on where they can contact you in the description of this episode. Um, and then we'll also be posting you once again once the episode drops to the horrible Decisions page, where's your where's your like ratchet page that I can send No, so guys, he sends he sent me like all these videos of him in the action, and I'm like, I actually want us to be able to keep our page so Instagram. I

thought like a Twitter or something too. Oh, I do have a Twitter. We don't have a Twitter for the for the horrible Twitter West. You could post anything on Twitter. Well, then you guys follow me. You got us follow me on Twitter at full Core Pumps, and I'll go ahead and post some of his videos that you guys can see. I can definitely post it on my Instagram. Also, I want to go ahead and let you guys know that. Um, these tickets for the motherfucker Last show just about sold out.

So we are super excited to be seeing you guys December one here in New York City for our very first live show. We want to send a great thanks to everyone who has purchased their tickets. We think we're gonna get all y'all holes to show up, but now we probably ain't gonna be able to accept all you os. Um. So yeah, tickets are pretty much sold out. We just wanted to let you guys know that, and you guys

are gonna see us. I'm excited to see all. We even have people flying in shout out to London, Chicago, Baltimore, Atlanta, and of course both of our moms are coming up from Florida. If you guys are coming from any other cities, let us know. We specifically want to make sure that we not only give you guys a great show, but we want to meet you guys personally because we appreciate, appreciate you'all flying to fucking see us. Talk back up here.

I want to be on the live show. We're gonna have to get you on the live show because I think that um weezy wouldn't mind being bent over um being flogged in front of a whole audience of two hundred plus people. I think that would be awesome. UM. I want to just thank you guys again again. You guys can catch us on just about everything SoundCloud, iTunes, at heart Radio, We're fucking everywhere, UM and follow us at Horrible Underscores Decisions on Instagram. Thank you guys so much.

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