Guess what decision we're about to make a horrible decisions. Welcome horrors. We got one in the building today, not Mandy, not me. It's easy. Welcome to horrible decisions and most disgusting show you've ever heard in the podcast world. What's up, y'all? Motherfucker's it's your girl, Mandy b A k A tri pop mommy. I mean the building you already know. Have Dante with us, a requested guest, over and over. But I'm not gonna lie a few years, actually seriously, and
you're not gonna lie a few years. Maybe you want to reply to us back then you're not. I don't ever not do that. I see it. I need. But people were like, you gotta have Dante on, and I'm like, why, but why Dan? Why we gotta have you on? Why do you think people all do? I try to stay righteous. That's it. That's man, and that's on the on the on the strength. So my my podcast, I've been doing my podcast for eight years. Who's the name of this Man? School?
Two oh to initially was the Beige Philip Show before Baige Philip. It was a Black Philip show that I did with Patrice o'neio back in two thousand six. We did it as a radio shown. You bitch was in high school, you know if I don't know if stuff like that. Yeah, so you got a podcast. But what are you known for? Because to me, when people are like you need Dante on, what's why, how do people know you? What do they know you for? Being? Well?
So just as a relationship gurule I guess that would be married I am now recently, but you was given though relationship advice before you was married? Yeah, but made because I know everything about this. So let me let me give you the background. So, uh, I was a male strip of for ten years. Well now we talk about we're talking about like years ago. Okay, So so
I was a male stripper. You know, I will bring up the Instagram and so I was a male strippid for ten years and then I got into I was like managing other male strippers, and then I started managing the club and then I did a little personal management. Personal personal management also starts when p I am. I did that for for for a few years. And so the perspective of being a male strippers, you have to you have to understand, you have to understand attraction from
a woman's perspective. If you can't if you don't understand that, then you don't make no money. So and the way men's see attraction is different than the way women see attraction. I am interested to and we're going to get into it later. But a lot about you know, pimping is perceived in a way that's so misogynistic. But but I mean,
I'm assuming that you did protect women. So I want to talk about those things later because I feel like when we've discussed it with escorts, a lot of women we meet are independent and it seems like a good way to go. But then there's also these moments where safety comes into play. A lot of these laws that are sucked over like sester like you know, they cross
referencing clients and stuff like that. I mean, even when you see somebody who's independent, they still got a guy who's who rids them and knows that they you know, somebody that got their back, somebody that can, you know, crack jewels and knockheads if they have to, you know, if that needs be so, I mean, that's the point of it. But I think what happens is there's a there's when I say, uh righteous, there's a business principles
to everything that you do and you gotta follow those principles. So, um, I didn't like, I don't. I don't think nobody decides to be a pimp. Uh. Women actually turned the guy into a pimp. See this is like when Nigga tell you you made me cheat. Really it's not really because us. Here's what happens is you you would never think that you could put somebody in that in that position. Somebody has to say to you, yo, you know I did you I would? You know I would rock like that
for you. You know I would. I would make some money for you, and you like you would. You don't start out thinking that's like nobody who goes I want to be a pimp does that. You don't wake up and go I want to be it don't even work like that. You have there's a thing that you have to have that maybe you mean a good one or not. But I think a lot of thing don't want to do ship like yeah, but they because it's glorified culture. Right. You got people that want to be drug dealers. That's
just the truth. And I think people that want to get into that type of life dudes who want to be drug deal is usually not good drug. You know understand that get caught. It's got It's gotta be somebody that goes yo, I really did you? You know, Like I tell you this thing. I was dating this girl that was like about twenty years old, and I had, you know, those little standing lamps that you you know, you couldn't so I the novel, so every time I had to turn it on, I had to leave it
on and plug it in. Or I had this when I was broke, and she was like, let me tell you what happened when she went to the store foundine lamp and she stole the thing off. That's pimper. That's what I'm saying. Is that the fact that she didn't want me to even hurt my fingers too. She was like, I'm trying to gift for a man. But it's the perspective I'm saying. The perspective of it is the same.
It's the same. So I have a I have a thing that I always say, um that true wisdom is the understanding of underlying concepts how they relate to situations that seem irrelevant. But really I'm not meaning if you learn something and you boil it down to the route to the to the cosmic and universal truth. That truth can be reapplied over and over and over and over again in situations that seem like they wouldn't like, like
it's not even relevant. I wonder if there's something to be said with Like I was listening to this interview um with a porn star that was talking about how she went to jail for due before, and I wonder if there's something like the pimp and thing. It's like when women will do anything right when it's not necessarily but I mean, and that's the thing, right, And I think that's where it comes from, is when there's independence
and you aligned and joined forces with somebody. That doesn't really happen with Madam's noticed that that's only the dynamic with men. I've never heard a woman difference. So I dipped and dabbled in and being a madam for a lot of years early on, because I just knew a plethora of women that we're willing to do whatever for some change. You know, I'll be working my words, uh. But also I knew a lot of men that were willing to spet and so I was the middle woman.
But I think the difference is to um and tell me if I'm wrong or if you experienced this, but to me, because I wasn't necessarily having relations with those women, I was able to just have kind of that business. I was able to have that business relationship with the women that here you go, here you go, and let
me do it. As far as with a pimp. Uh, the women that are engaged in that type of lifestyle normally do have an emotional attachment and a relationship with the male that as a woman we I didn't have with those girls. Well, it's a it's a you know, it is a give and take. Now, I'm gonna say that one of the reasons why I stopped was because it's it's in a moral profession, and I just I got to the point where, yes, ethically, I just I couldn't do how many women what do you call it
a rotation? Hair? Uh? Well, I mean, at at the best I had twelve are all of them? Yeah damn yeah. And that's but it is exhausting. And that's that's kind of the thing with relationships. Just all dudes who want to so they want three sims and this and that. But if you can't funk one woman properly? How you how you do all the time? You feel me? So,
I mean, there's you gotta be that's the thing. It's a no, it's even if it's sister wise, there's a jealousy and that you have to create the parameters that that doesn't happen. Was he like, did stop being? So it's it's a real interesting thing. Is the print of the reason why I got into the whole relationship thing, because even that is a relationship, or at least it's in a good situation. It's a relationship that you have to that you have to read her needs, all of
their needs simultaneously and fulfill those. Did you forget names? I'm trying named well friends right now? Like you know how hard my names? Well, yeah, but it's gonna take me a second to just like get my names together. But you're not every day if you're with them and we date, and it's it's a different it's but what you said, we actually um during quarantine, we interviewed a Polly couple um down in Memphis, and he actually said
that same exact thing. He was like a lot of men want to have multiple girlfriends and all these different women. But it does take time and energy and energy and emotionally learn women and how we talk about love languages a lot as well, but to learn how everyone receives the things you do, how you give it back, and for them to also learn it is I can only imagine I'm listening. It's exhausting. And and that means you you also, if they want sex with you, you gotta
show up. You gotta show up when you don't want to show up. Like so, you know, it's great when you you know, everybody's like, oh, I want I've done do I've had dudes who have council dudes doing my podcast and then yeah, I want this and I want that, and then they you know, I would get them to the point where they might have five on the roster and then we're like, yo, I'm tired. I gotta I gotta go to you know what I'm saying. And I'm like you you broke it, you bought it, like this
is what you wanted. Now you got to make the trip. You gotta go make the trip because if you and if you're not gonna make the trip and you can't give her what she needs, then you need to you need to slide back and jumped into it. And because now my head is really moving around. Like, let's talk about what I know what people think of pimping, whether it be from movies or music or whatever. Do you take care of all of them as far as they all live together? Yeah, one time I lived with all
of them. Yes, And so how does it work for is it like? Okay, it's like what a colt you know what I'm saying. You make money for the coal and then the colt takes care of you. So do they get money separately? Well, you you take care of them the money. You get the money and you take care of them. But I mean the point is, but why don't they do it alone? Because they're missing something. I mean, people are broken. People are broken, and they want they want people to fulfill whatever that that that
motive is. So, for instance, you have somebody who comes from a very toxic childhood. A lot of times and this is not just I mean, I mean, we we're talking about the pimping, but it's just it's relationships. You'll find a woman who's toxic, she will find another toxic dude and she repeat that toxicity in everything that she does, and then she'd like, man, ain't this a minute? And then you'll find that she'll break up with that dude, She'll get another toxic dude. So so I have this
this uh philosophy. I talked about it. I don't know if you're you know what brackish fish are. So there's a fish called African sicklids. They they come from a lake in Tanzania and in they come from this lake and they're uh, you know, there's there's tribes around it. So they're shipping it, they're pissing it, they washing it, they cook out of it. It's and so there's a bacteria in the water and so the fish become adapted
to that. Now, if you set up a fish tank and you have for conciculance, you have to set that water up first. You have to put a bacteria culture in the water. You have to balance the pH because if you put those fish in clean water, they will die. So what's the normalization of of bacteria or toxicity is
what feels home? Like home, it feels comfortable. So if you have somebody who comes from an abusive situation, it's almost it's almost more painful for them for you to treat them, whether you would assume people want and this is like when we talk about it does, but it's like when we meet people to get out of jail and they like doing certain things because it makes them
feel like they're still there or even you know. I had a conversation with this chicken went to jail and she was talking about how it was more stable for her than her household, and she was like the regiment. She's like, don't get me wrong, I didn't like being there. She was like, but the regiment was like something was necessary. It's more comfortable there for five years. People going on services a lot of times because they don't like they
don't want their choices. And so what I think what happens is we we have this kind of norm of what we perceive things should be, and that norm has may not have anything to do with what you particularly want, but it's also the idea that I think a lot of times, I mean, we we do it almost daily by looking at the blogs, looking into our friends, our parents, all of their relationships and judging them. And I think that that's what you're saying exactly ties into that, like
this idea of normal does not exist. There is not a normal relationship because what you know, Weezy may like in her relationship may not be at all what I would want in my relationship, and vice versa. So I like the idea that that's what you're saying, Like, you know me as a man, if I'm dating you, I'm dating you, what I want from you is totally different than what you want from me. So it's it's it's
specific even in the context of that. And so the agency what I say, the agency, I mean that that what people perceive is this is the normal, is that has nothing to do with what the real feeling is. And so one of the things that I feel like when you're talking, we got to go like this. You know, this is well throwed out. So you're gonna be You're gonna be snapping a lot. So this is well thought out.
One of the things is you know, uh so when I say, when I said righteousness about it, there has you have this is so I have an acronym that I use whenever I talk to do something on my man school tool to let me plug that again is ACE. The acronym is acist, authenticity, credibility, and empathy. Right, So authenticity is the truth, honest, and don't have credibility is uh is I say what I mean, I mean what I say, and I do what I say really don't
do okay? And empathy is for me to perceive the the the tribulations that you have to go through one the day to day. When I'm asking for things, I love that we a man, schoolmate, I would you because well, those three things I think. And it's it's crazy because men think that we are these complicated creatures and it's literally those three things that really women want to be the simplest fundamental aspects of YouTube literally be just a good human and all of those are blanket under honesty.
We don't love that all depends unless she's a toxic individual than what she wants from you. Is that toxicity so real quick? Because you keep saying as well that both parties can be toxic. And I think that this leads into as well, just the conversation. I don't think a lot of women own up to their toxic behavior. So well. You've never heard determinology, a woman of her word, a man of man of his word. You've heard man of his word, but you never hear because you're not
held to those standards. You're you're ok Now, let me say this, are the expectation for you to be to have a level of emotionality about what your your reality is perspectively is shaped by how you feel in that moment, and and and your feelings move their their their their, you know they're there, they move and it's flow. It's a flow because it's it's just not like that. And then you find this and you make your faces. But here's here's what I'll prove it to you. Because what
happens is women have different friends. You've got friends you shop which than you party with friends, you creep with friends, you and and so women tend to be very malleable and they have different feel like this dude that I used to must listen to Danton because he said this is one thing to me that I always remember and seriously, because out of anyone I've ever dated, he was the most like, he'll always tell me, I'll never lie to you, never want me, and the like will be this honest
and transparent, and he really was. And one of the things he said to me when we were breaking up, it was so difficult for me because, like I just couldn't understand how it was happening. And he said, you have so many friends you do things with, and I'm just like a toy that, like the second someone's going to throw it out, you just can't stop playing with it. You have to know what's there. And he's like, you just want me there. And I know that because of
the different friends you have. And it's true. I talked about it on the show all the time. I have friends that if I want to get super high and get lit and go raving or do my Black Lives Matter protests or whatever, I have friends that I can do all of those things. But part yeah, even my shady dudes, I know he's We all know he's shady. We just don't really we don't let him know money. But you know what y'all do like that, y'all have
a bunch of different bitches that do different ship. You got one that's the one who's like the homeboy that you can do this, but y'all one that sucks you nasty. You got the wife the type. I don't believe that, but that becomes that's because of the fact that guys don't feel as though they're dope enough to say, you may not be the one, you may not be the thing that you think you are. So if I, if I,
and I don't have a problem. So so it's like when you talk about authenticity, that authenticity could be hurtful if it's something that you don't want to hear. Do you know you feel what I'm saying. So you may have this perception of who you are and what you want and I may not think so, But a guy guy knows that we probably would not be having to handle your perception of us exactly. So you see, I snapped, I don't like what you saying, hands on the table,
and we are going. And the next second is Vanilla ship. So Dante, this is our segment where we pick sex in the news, just an article of the news that we found had sex in it. This one, I like, how long does sex last for most people? This is gonna be average time? Um, what's ideal? And factors that affect the duration? I want you all to take again? Seven minutes? I would I'd go with five five point four mates? Too much credit? See what happened? What happens
when I give them too much? Creddy vaginal intercourse last a medium of five point four minutes before the man ejaculates. Anywhere from three to thirteen minutes is normal, but the average is five minutes, uh five point per from minute. Now, I want you all to take a guess on how many minutes it takes the average woman to orgasm. But a lot of bitches ain't orgasm. So the lifetime this is survey. There's a few thousand people in here. This is women having sex with men study just penis and vagina.
How long does it take? I was trying to say the fact that a lot of women come from for players included the entire sex duration minutes. I was gonna say from start to finish, seventeen Benson, here we guess. Oh, it was thirteen minutes. All right, this is like, you know, thirteen point four? I think, So how long is your four play ship? You'll be edging? So I literally like last night, Uh, he came over because he's going out
of town, and I was exhausted. I didn't even want to ask, how long have you go go out of town till Sunday? When you say out of town, I thought he got your exhaust. No, he's going out of town, And I was really just like, but I'm so tired. We had been out all day. He picked me up from the studio. We just we're going it's I was like, baby, I'm tired. So I gave him a sage. He ended up still sucking me, and he was like, he was really gonna let me go out of town. I'll give
you no pussy. I was like, okay, I'm sorry again. But that's the thing. I'm scared because he doesn't know how to have a quickie. The fact that you just said you're quickies are forty five minutes. That's him And I'm like, babe, this isn't like no quick thing. It's
a hard fucking production. I've dated girls where they were like I would just always want to make me come and and then they'd be like, you know, they talking and I'm be like, well, you know I'm not going out that out and they'd be like, um, you know, careful what you wish for. But yeah, what do you guys think that women consider too long? Next minutes a real minutes? Uh? Let me see, I guess it's a minute. No the entire no sex sex, but not really. I
thought you meant the entire vaginal sex. The entire too long. When my pussy started drying, I will say it's it's arranged. I will say between eleven Okay, I was gonna say three. Wow, he was right after ten, ten to twenty minutes. People think it's too long, Oh ship, I'm gonna be real with you. I agree. Really, I had a sex tape that I watched the entire way through. It's four a team and is long, and at the nine minute mark you were like, this could have God, damn, what is it?
I don't know, So it's crazy because I don't know. I guess I do enjoy it. So we take breaks, I guess, which is maybe why it does last to me so long, like Dick's second breaks. No, like to me, it'll turn into whole almost body worshiping breaks or oral breaks, And so I don't feel like I'm being pounded the whole way. So when maybe he would probably when I get to the point where like comfortable, you probably shouldn't
be pounded the whole way. No, not, of course, he's the boys school, the ice cream scoop the cork screw. Let's go back, and I like food. What is the ice cream school? On the around? What are you doing that. Your di is in in on the bottom screw turns and around the rim, Like, now, what kind of hell are you? You move your hips? Oh so yeah, there you go. Oh so that like you never heard before? And then I don't put on the strap of phones. I did, motherfuck ice cream scoop. I did watch this
video with this dude me. I'm like, not this saying it's worked, because it wasn't just up down down was like a little. It was like different. Okay, okay, okay, it's like because that sound schools around and all the back the board text is in from the left side out from the other, the little of his dick in the vagina, the board text, the cord text, and ice creams the fun give me. I just want to get fucked, like yeah, but I'm not out. But you just we
normally associate just the position. But I guess I've never thought that he was I was good what I call a utility. I feel like it was seven and a half around. It's like I'm around around eight the corn him the half. But it's like I said, it's not a point o dick, but it's a it's a utility. Like it's like a pickup truck, like because he just puick a couch up. I got you, but like I can't move the whole apartment all right with this fridge. I'm like, yeah, okay, now you already kind of just
gave it to us. But our Horror Derve segment is the sex tips, and we love to leave it to the guests. Do you have any one blanket tip that maybe works for everybody that men for women, women for men. I think, um, so one of the things that I said, you can't whenever relationship doesn't work, it's and I get in trouble for this a lot of times because it's
always the man's fault. And I'll tell you why, because it's, Um, if you have a woman that's too strong, you can't tell a woman you know, I mean, and all of y'all have done this. Oh girl, he's nice, give him a chance. What you're really saying is he's not strong enough to handle you, so be weaker so that you can give him an opportunity. And you can't do that.
That that alleviates the the attraction. The attraction is the fact that he is stronger, like a woman only finds him and attractive who she thinks is better than her, and better is a is a relative term. I agree that it's a relative term because if you got to do who you feel is better. I've always said that, like when it comes out of my mouth, I've said, I like men I can learn from not necessarily in my him I thinking better, but I see to what you think is better. Yeah, I wonder if that's why.
Sometimes the age is what attracts me, Like I feel like younger men aren't getting it, or maybe like I've experienced too much. Tell me something. I've already had ice cream. But that's interesting because I want to know how you feel about that, because like when he said it, I was like, Okay, he's too nice, or give him a chance. But what if it's because someone is being good to us and we're not used to that. It's still his inability to recognize that he's being too nice is is
his deficiency. So even the fact that he's he's deficient in his ability to perceive what's going on. And so you, like I say, if you want to be a man, there's no vacation days and manhood you got to show up every day. This is a toxic. This is interesting because I agree and don't agree, so I but I also just kind of had this conversation last night as well, like to the fact that when you date someone, um, you need to allow them to show you who they are.
And I was having this conversation because my my nigga hates how much I passenger seat drive, and he's like, I don't know what it is with you and driving, but you just you know, I'm gonna get you to where you need to go. Oh, you're such a control for anything. So so even I was like, he was like, you have to like allow me to show you that I can get you by point into being a control fee fee control freak is a product of your own
personal insecurity. I can get that, and so if you're not insecure about yourself, then you you don't need to control everything around. But I mean, I guess it's also more so just other things that I've been in, I mean, should I've been in two car accidents and with all of my friends have have have totaled their vehicles and now I'm in it. It's not total right now, but which is your insecurity about being in a car? I had a huge trust issue. So for sure we're we're
pulling out my insecurities. I have a huge insecurity and allowing the trust for someone. And it is crazy because even my other podcast, My My my producer, she posted my episode last night. I was like this, this one supposed to God some Monday, and she was like, oh my god, the first time you trust someone and look, I sucked up. And so she even knows how how hard it is for me to give up any sort
of power to anyone else. But so as in order to gain that trust, I have to recognize immediately that you. I have to be president enough to recognize that you're insecure, and then I gotta as you start to I should be able to see you rev up, and I should be able to go, look, listen, that's what he did. That's what he did, and that's what you do. Even when his gaslight is on, I'll be like, Nigga, I ain't gonna push this truck. And he's like, you don't think I know how long I can drive in my
own car, even that it's not even that's too much. Yea, that's what the explanation of it is. Too much. You have he has to go listened, not even until not even going through the mind. I know that even that it's too much because any discussion gives you room and I got you gotta, you gotta. So so when you ask about a sex tip, it's it's being present. You have to be present. So being president being in the moment.
And in order to be president, you have to be the best version of yourself so that when you when you're making moves, you're ready, like you've trained. It's a boxing match. You have to have been trained and did your road work and did your pad work and eight right, so you're ready. So when you step into this situation, you're not insecure. Also normalize the word insecure for a moment because to be able to have an adult conversation to acknowledge like, yes, I know, like we've we've attacked
me and they're using that word before um. But that's why I really do also appreciate like, and I can take that and what you're saying and not use insecures. Oh my god, you're brolling me. But take it after but take it as I understand that I do have a huge trust trust issue with people. But that has that has to become that has to come from his his authenticity. But When you know securities, you can help people that you're dating your partner guide you through them.
You know, one of my biggest insecurities is consistently across the board, not providing enough. Like this week, I'm very busy with work and I haven't been able to, you know, make dinner or do certain things, and it's always on my mind, like it's an irrational fear, but like, oh, I nett to somebody because I can't make dinner, like really strange. I don't know where it comes from, me feeling like I have to do it all, But it's a I feel like from and just from even me
being around you growing up your mom. I think it comes from that your mom is so catering. I know that even when we would come home late from the club, she would be like, do you ladies need any water? Y'all want me to make you cheese? And my mom does not sit. Your mom does not stop. So I feel like you may have just innately took those things. And I don't see it as a bad thing at all, But if you're saying like, fuck, it's some relationships crazy
to look at. So when you're a child and your mom is around that is the true depiction of what you see womanhood as problem. To see, my mom didn't work, not sincessarily. My mom was a housewife. So now I'm trying to be that woman and very much a lot of the times don't feel like I can fulfill both.
But what you're saying is what what's crazy, And I think that it's what makes women so great right now too, is the fact that you do still have we still have this social construct of gender roles in our mind. So when we do get into these relationships, we do still want to come off as wifey or girlfriend material, and so we do know that we have to clean and do all of these things clean than me just tidies up. Oh my god, my nigga be doing to say,
I'd be like literally feelings. I was like, babe, I've been out, so don't judge me. It'll be clean. I can't like buzz him up without the conversation of like, it's gonna be really bad. Well, you gotta also be able to you. You gotta be able to forgive yourself for your own flaws. So I think what happens more over than not, we have this this ideal self and if we're we're genuinely working to be the best version
of ourselves, then that that should be enough. The problem comes in when you when you set these goals that you that are unrealistic, and then you don't forgive yourself. I mean, we're all human beings. These two things that you will always have to do for the rest of your life is give forgiveness and ask for forgiveness. So as long as you start at that base that mistakes are okay, as long as we are working to to
fix those things. And so getting back to the so that same principle is present in in sexs and so paying attention being present in that situation. So for instance, like I'll tell dudes who I So I do a consultation business as well, like Bill, you can go on my website downton or dot com and you can click on consulting and you could you could, you could hit
me up and book time with me. But so if you got say, for instance, if a guy's missionary style right and he's present, if you have a woman is pushing her hamstrings against your your quad, your thighs, you're too deep, you're too deep, you're too hard. But but if you're if it's deep. Your your hips will relax and your legs will fall, so you're you're you have to pay attention to to what those those those physical cues.
So if if she's pushing against you, you you can't go Yeah, I gotta know and and and you have to you gotta meet, right. That's the interesting thing about men and as I when I was younger, I feel like dudes would always want that compliment from making girls scream and things like that. It's like, my most enjoyable sex wasn't me fucking screaming, but it might have been if that's where you're at. But the point is point of like trying so hard to get this reaction when
you're really not putting thoughts. But then when then the reaction is what you want, it's not what she wants, so you gotta pay it. Like even if you you know gods to be like, what's what's the best way to go down on a girl? And I go, you can't, it's not it's not the same. You know your partner is what you really need to do? The next thing out,
how do you go down? I would say, you know there's women that wants direct content, there's contact women that can't take direct come because small circles on the hood underneathing's not the hoodics. This is the podcast. So what I'm saying is is so what I would tell a dude is is if you watch a woman's diaphragm, you
watch her diaphragm drop and increases she's breathing. The deeper the breathing is, the more you're you want point because that's as her as her breathing deepens just because she's she's going, she's more relaxed and she's falling into it deeper and he and it becomes more sensual. So if you're watching her stomach, her abdomen rise and fall, and if you've done that, the hey things you want to the last you don't want hus right and you think, oh I got because it's ego. But you in order
to remove the ego, you gotta first be dope. So if you're not dope, then you're trying to you. You said, if that's man's insecurity. So if I'm present and this is about this comes from an authentic place of me trying to please you, then I'm paying attention. I think we could do. That's a tip of both to be honest with you, Absolutely, the diaphragm should like I've learned that, like I said, from women, because it was a little
bit easier to notice. But like after that, I've not consciously all the time, but I listened to breath like a lot, and when I'm pleasing somebody or like the sounds and like yeah, I don't even like music because I need to I need this, I need to zone in anyway real quick. I want to do this whole fact because I found this ship to be super interesting. Um, you know there's only all of them shows John Kate
plus A and all these bitches popping out babies. This whole fact most a thick mom ginness world Bricker records and this was from book a world record. What said, you messed it up? But it's glad. Just wanted to go ahead, go ahead, and there's a plethora. I think you can't say it either way though, thank you. You can say anyway. This bit of plathora of children, UM nasty enough, biggest hole I know because the number is sixty nine kids. Fucking insane. The woman was from Shuya, Russia,
identified as the only wife and this man. But by the way, it was on record for having the most children too of fedor vasiliv and she had twenty seven pregnancies, sixteen pairs of twins, seven sets of triplets, four sets of quadruplets according to the world record, six twenty seven pregnancies. I think he had for pregnancy. It's also grows sleep selfish on her part. There's no way that she can that she can provide and give those children the emotional
support for them to be productive human beings. I think Max maybe too wow for me. My Max would be body, that's my cat. I think the Max probably could be for one one for me. Care for maybe if you do, you're not working you independently riching you. I mean, if you think about how many people you know that it's just garbage, their garbage because people you know you have children and you you you're not raising them how you want them to be as adults. You're raising them just
as it happens. My mom tells me all the time that she's like, I couldn't have had another one. She's like, I felt like there was a lot of energy and a lot of things I wanted to teach you, And she was like, and I couldn't balance myself like I think one was it, Like she always says that she's I don't think another one could have came out, And I think also it's a situation when you you know, it's it's sort of like behind a new laptop and then you back up the laptop from your old, your old,
get your old backup. You know what I mean, Like you you forgot you know what I'm saying, Like you have viruses and malware and then you you just download all your ship into this brand new laptop and then you want to love analogy If you take a laptop, you know what I would go crazy with. And tell me if your wife does I feel like if I got in an argument and you brought up some analogy analogy and compared me to so I'd be like, shut
your my My wife was listening to my party. She's from England and she was listening to my podcast for four years. She was dating this dude. She kept telling her, dude, listen to this podcast. Listen and then she came from England to get me, like her with the intention to get me, and and that she got you. It's a it's a it's a it's a situation where you, and I always say I would never or be with a fan, so you would you consider her a fan? Though? No?
I mean, I mean, everybody's a fan until you know somebody, you know what I mean. I'm quite sure you know famish people, you know famous people in the fan. I don't. I don't know body's fan, do you know what I mean? We just got on Charlottegne's network. I think we could both agree we're a fan of that legacy, a fan of his work, fan of I don't. I don't look at it as a fan. I look as inspired. I'm
inspired by great people. Now because you're attracted to I'm sorry, I think this is and I'm gonna say that because I feel like when when you dig you're digesting digesting it differently because you're into her, right, you find her attractive. There's something different about her to where she don't look like a crazy fan to you. But let her have been ugly and she didn't came here to get your absolutely,
And I mean I would never say that that. I don't want somebody who I don't find it in the line. The fandom is just dissolving because I think it changed for you. But it's still fans don't always changed for me. The point is, you know, I've had fans who see me as fans, and I go and I don't want. I don't really want see. Fandom is an interesting thing, I think because you you, if you, if you idolize people, what you're what you're ultimately saying is wow, you do
something that I can't do. And I don't never think somebody does something that I can't accomplish. I could never be in the NBA, and and and so I could never how hard I could never What you're talking about the physicality of it. What I'm saying is somebody who's accomplishing things. I don't never look at somebody and go, oh, that dude's better than me. Makes you I really just felt like you were a little better than me, because
ain't nobody come from England to come get us? Not eight years we only three and a half were coming up, and he said she came four years ago. No, two years ago, Okay, we got we got this. So in our horrible decision, I have the jack of all hose because you seem to have done it all this tripping, the pimping, the relationship, stand up comedy. I was in second season of Power. I did a movie with Janet Tatum. I did Black to eight episodes of Blacklist. You know.
I did acting for a while, and stand up comedy I've been doing for twenty years a lot. What are you the worst at? Uh? Yeah, best and worst? I don't don't you know? You got to self deprecating is fun. I'm trying to think of I'm just dope. Look me nothing that I'm not that I want to be good at that. I don't that. I don't think that. Like I suck at tennis, but I don't even care about tennis. I know that's right, Okay, same, but I suck at chess, but I don't care about chess. Um. I don't like
to gamble. I stuck at cards. I don't like one of the ever pople say you want to be good to take the heat to you with his like relationship group stuff. And I have a few questions I want to get into before we get out. Um. One of the ones that comes to my mind that so I used Reddit a lot for this is so fucking I sound really crazy, but cooking and like making stuff with weed because I feel like anything I'll find on Google
is not it? And in this reddit threat there's like a woman's only empowerment thread and there's no men in there, and basically they try to talk amongst each other with things that they want to know, and a lot of the younger girls in these threads asked some basic ask questions that sometimes I think I don't know the answer to. And one of them is do sleepovers mean anything? I mean, if you have a guy, of course it means something. I mean, but a guy is the problem is that
you're being disingenuous. The woman is being disingenuous. If you know when a guy likes you, you know if he wants to fuck. I don't think women know when a guy likes I don't think I don't know were we as women are telling you, we don't know when a guy really we don't like. We don't really like you. So if we're hanging out with you, we like you. I'm not hanging out with somebody I don't like. But if I don't like you, I want to fuck. So you know that. Okay, But I think that's the issue.
I can't figure And when I say I in this moment, I have someone that loves me back and we're together and it's cool. I get it. But even with that nigga in the beginning, Dante, no, I did not know if he was passing the time or wanted to suck me or actually saw something in how long? We mean? Did he want to We? We want to fuck you. We we always want to suck you. The point is once we we once we fuck you, then we go, okay, what else? What else you got? Like? What else is
in the fridge? That's an interesting point. So you're telling me that the sex happens, and then they're kind of just waiting to see where it goes, because that's what this basically the thing is what happens. You know, you'll find a situation where you you you know, a woman is holding the sex because she thinks so whatever whatever, I agree with that sex not, but I want what you got to give? Now? What do you have to give now? What you have to give may not be
worth ship. You may be garbage and the pussy might be bananas, and you might be garbage order order, or you might be guard the pussy might be garbage and you, you know whatever. The point is that there are human beings,
a physical intellectual and emotional intimacy. So we all have a kind of a standard that we want those things that maybe you want an eight in in intimacy and you want to you know your mind and you're not being that dumb or maybe you're not that smart or whatever, but you you need those things to meet we Which
is more important? None is more important? Because I know I've had I've done consultations with women where it had a gorgeous dude with the sea at the six packet had to come gutters, you know, and I call him, I'm um, but this dude was like, I didn't know pickles was cucumbers. And you're like, so what I'm saying, even if you even if the sexiest bananas, if he's dumb, that's gonna wear out. If he's got nothing else but but dang in sex and there after while I mean
whatever wherever you're at sexually, that may last. Times it's so good. It's like when I talk about the broke, like I'd be like, yo, started amazon story, dude, right, but let's take it back to sleepovers, right, so you're staying of course it means something. Sure, I'm hanging with you to be homeless. No, no, no no, I'm talking about let's say sleepovers. Okay, what if he got allergies and his mattresses? What You're at a house, he invites you over,
tells you to come through its eleven pm. Let's do that time frame. Eleven pm you come over to fuck? What happens one now it's too and he doesn't ask you to go home? Is that an intentional sleepover? Does that mean something? This is so And this is what I tell dudes who listen to my podcast, just ask like what you like if you you staying? You know, like even when you said you're doing about my women, you're telling them they should be like, hey, like is
this something? Because I'm having you want to we do well? First of all, if you want to sleep over and you're gonna fu, all you gotta do is it's real easy. You don't have to do to stay. Need that. But I'm saying if there's a if I'm not gonna I will like, I don't do awkward. So if I'm hanging with you and I'm like yo, you're not like even if even when I was dating, if I'm with somebody and it's like I'm like yo, and I'm not. I'm like, yo,
you don't if you don't like me, it's cool. I could be out well, you know, I to see you as a friend, like, yeah, I don't. I don't. I don't want to be your friend, not into your friends. I want, I want whatever. I think that's a great thing for women to start doing. When they're saying like we're cool, we're kicking in like, I don't want to
just be cool. So I got well, and that's that's been where I've been when I was in my manifestation of wanting a partner, That's where I had to be if a guy was coming to me, well, what do you want, Well, this is what I want if you can't give it to me. As women, you need to be okay with walking away with a man who's not wanting to give you what you want, sure, because you're
not gonna be happy with it anyway. Yeah, you're only only gonna be it's only gonna and then eventually it's gonna full of pieces and and so guys a lot of times will be disingenuous so that they get the pussy and then and then they'll be like just like Barbeach, So now it's it's it don't work out for them either. But also men have to realize that there are women.
We've had this podcast where we've had it, there a lot of women should I just want to be so I think that men should be upfront more with if that's just what you want. There are so many women. The question is why are they're not upfront. They're not upfront because they're insecure about what they're offering and what they have to offer. So if I'm if I go ask some money and I'm like, I know, look, if you whatever you need, I got it. Like I got it. Whatever you need, I got it. If I if I
don't got it, I can get it. That means if you're you, you're false. It is leaky. I got a plumber. If I can't fix it, I know a plumber. If you transmission is done, I gotta do he. I I've worked at a restaurants. I can cook. I've worked as a head chef restaurants. I've um. I've every girl that I've dated of any nationality, I've adopted their cuisine. So I do Mexicans now that right? So, But but if you're working to be the best version of yourself. I go,
I go, hit, this is what I got. I will say, what you're saying is kind of where I'm I feel like I do have. I've I've noticed myself and my worth and my value and what I do have to offer, which I feel like is why I have one, which is because I will say, back then, maybe I didn't have all the money, so I knew I wasn't really going to be able to value you for you without wanting to know what finances you had. Or I didn't really cook or know how to cook for niggas, so
I didn't do it. So I definitely see exactly where you're coming from. There's a context of the So there's a always used this as an analogy because you know, that's what I do. Uh. There's a commercial called That's an our Kia commercial. It chicks the older. She comes out of the our ke and she looks at the bill right, and she goes, hey, me start the car right because the bill is so cheap. She's stealing and so she wants to start the car to get out before she gets caught. So this is what people do
in relationships. You shop lifting the pussy. You you know your garbage, right, you shot lifting the stop lifting the pussy. You know your garbage. And so you've represented yourself and now you want to start the call get you want to shot lift, you get out before you've found out that you didn't pay the proper. Now, if I if I come to you, if I come to you and I I say I got a g wagon, and I show I got this g wagon, listen, bit give me
a hundred dollars you have this g wagon. You're not even gonna go Yo, don't be calling me a bit. You're gonna be like, this is giving me a g wag. I'm not even gonna I'm not because you know it's what your paying is not worth it. So the point is if my value, if I'm working on me being the best version of myself, and my value is what it is, then I don't have If there's no negotiation, nobody is at the Bentley shop. I love. This is what the prices, this is what I'm thinking. This is
a great escort conversation. Let me just say She's like, first of all, these are brands and maybe it was this, but now it's f our figures Corinthian level. You know, it's but so so. But that's the problem is people are lazy and they don't want to be the best version of their self and and so, and then they're putting themselves in a situation and negotiating with something. So you are used car sales with dog there's no engine and that stop. You know, the transmission is Google's not
for that best analogy. Now, all right, before we get out of here, we're gonna do a whole confession from someone. Did you see who was from? No? Uh, he doesn't want his name said, but he's someone that's been to all of our shows and he really sports us. But the title is period sex because I need some backup apparently, so don't use my name. I'm not embarrassed, but I just didn't ask her permission to share the story, respecting her privacy. I bet you learned that from us. I
was dating this fine Latina shape. Why you had to tell us that? Right? We don't, we don't, We don't got a lot of goddamn wholemals letting us. And we had some great chemistry. We sucked outdoors in the car in the restaurant, you name it. She came over and was giving me head the most amazing head. I wanted to suck her so bad. I went for her panties and she was like, wait, I'm on my period, to which I responded, shut up, Mandy, heavy or light day? And she said light day and that was a green
light for me. I proceeded to finger her simultaneously, fish out the tampon strength and yank it out. Once that was out, it was on. We fuck like bunny rapids and doggy style. When our sexual excursion was over, she was amazed that I fucked her while on her period, to which I responded, I don't give a funk about a little blood. And after we lay in the bed, she looked at my white curtains and noticed blood splatter. She was horrified. I didn't give a fund because my
housekeeper was coming to clean. She don't clean out of that ship. She was embarrassed that the housekeeper would have to clean the blood off the curl dried and iron the curtains, so the housekeeper wouldn't know. Until this day, we referred to it as the c s I murdersing. I just wanted easy to not feel alone, and Mandy did not be so just mental, what's a little blood? Between partners. It's just the booty hole peg stallion. I love you both, but don't hack it till you try it, Mandy,
period sex is great. Love seeing y'all on tour a mad love to my face. Let me say something to you. Sorry, you acted like this was part of what I do. First of all, anybody do what you do. I have never ever blood curtain, but you'd be fucking with blood and they ain't pulling it out. They're pulling on out my tampon for me. Oh you pull it out yourself. Oh that's the only difference. First of all, I do it very good, like, oh my god, don't look down there.
You know what I'm saying. I turn it lights up. I ain't have no daytime sex on my period and is y. I've pulled it out with my teeth, shook it and it against the wall. So it's whatever you pulled it out with your come on your type of ship. You probably go ahead and nike a fish out of tampon off your next time. You're probably gonna get the Diva cup just so he could get up in there and pull it out your stup. No, you don't wanted to pull out your cup why don'd you pull it
out with your zev sexy That's what it is. It's like, of course, but it was also like, God, my only girl. That happened to her, and she has been in love ever since he did it. On the first time they had sex, wan't a going on? I want to leave, and now they're in love. Thank you so much for coming. Everybody, let's go. I've done that, and then on the period, and then she went to get up and I will
stay there, and I've went. I've gotten a basin with warm, soapy water and wipe the down basin a little, you know a little, and wipe the down, cleaned up, and link covered up his body, worshiping in. So she goes in her head with jack Ball, trade you a nurse to. I mean, I've been around the block. I ain't on the spring chicken. This isn't you know what I'm saying. We do, But it's you got to understand that those
those subtle things communicate other things. If I can do that, I love you, It's right, I got you like you. I mean, did you love the woman that you did that too? And it's that's kind of no, but that's but I would say this. It's but I would say I would say this my only ship, ladies, but my but my nature is what I'm not saying that I loved her, but when I'm saying you know, but I'm saying mine. Yeah, but my nature is to be to
take care of you. So I'm commute. You know, it's like what you love you or not, I'm gonna take care of you. Got you all right? So ladies, we'll we'll never know actions do not tell us from the UK. I mean I see why, alright And alright, So Dante, where can our followers find you? I know you plugged a couple of times. We also are gonna put it in the description of this episode. UM my podcast is man School two oh to dock com. Um, It's on my Instagram, Dante Nero, Um, the the d'antea or dot com.
If you want to book time with me, consult with me whatever it's uh, you go d'antaa or dot com. You click on consult and you can just book the time with the one under there that says fish out tamponti and you can check my my my YouTube pages Man School Tool to downtine. Everything's under d'antagnu and man school tool to pretty much you can find everything from that. Thank you so very much. I love a little analogies
and all a little. I think you really did school quite a few people, and I think we can still come out here knowing that men are not ace. This really fun to see the comments because I normally, from the most part, whenever we do an episode, I know when people will like someone, and I know people will like you, especially the man. But I don't want to know what women are gonna think. Are they gonna be angry, are they gonna be happy? Are they gonna feel neutral
that their frauds? What do you think if you're not? Really? No, So I don't read the comments anymore, but to me on our Instagram, we asked for people's opinions on Instagram. Yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna lie. I'm not going to compare you to anyone else. I think that people are
just gonna enjoy this whole conversation. Uh, not only with what you had to say, but I think it's really going to have our people thinking, like, damn, let me rethink how what I'm doing, what I'm putting out there, how I view myself, how I value myself, what I want out of my partners. I think everything you said everyone can relate to want I want to One thing I think is really important. Relationships are very easy. People a compliment. All you need to do is understand what
your non negotiables are and then never negotiate them. M so so. But but you have to be honest, which is about what you're negotiating and non negotiabents. So if you got a guy and you're saying that fidelity is non negotiable, that means if he steps out, you gotta go now. My therapist has told me that I have five and three of them have to be there. I feel like some are kind of wavering for me, Like one of them was making more money than me, um,
and I was in there. No, no non negotiable. But like the more that I grew and the more I got older, I was like, I might not have that. You know what I'm saying, I don't even think about that. No more, I don't make good. Isn't that crazy? How good? I don't know. It's just now there's if they got three out of five, I'm cool, fucking I could work
on the risk I really like that. I really like that. Well, guys, we are going to leave you, guys with a five minute bonus clip from our patreon if you want three extra bonus episodes every month, we dropped three of them, one including a town hall where you get to kind of join into the conversation. So if you want to become a patron, join us over at patreon dot com. Back y'all get in us and be like, y'all always forget the clip. It's just that I think it's included
an audio. Is that true? It's always included, So why do we always forget it on YouTube? Is it your fault? Blame Benson? Blame Benson because I mean, that's that's well, that's a script. But but that's the edit that I send you. But she needs the Patreon. But sometimes he can't get the patreon yet. Be is we we pre record and I insert he's doing the audio. Yeah, he has to overlay the audio onto that it might be a new website. Is blame Benton and Mandy sometimes dot com?
Y'all about to blame hard because I how you doing that ship no more? But anyways, if y'all are also all caught up with Horrible Decisions, y'all know. Every Monday, after you guys listen to us, you can go on over to Periods. That is my other podcast. And I also want to thank everyone who has been supportive of my official box owner subscription box. I'm super excited that you guys are a part of that. And also on Tuesday, if y'all want to holler at me see the thing is,
go ahead and HOLLI at me. And we these also on Tuesday's, so if you all caught up with that and sick of hearing my voice, you can go on over to listen to Poor Facts sake, um and I love it, and of hearing us, I think you might need to listen to what days of your episodes you look it up? Well, thank you guys. This has been another episode of our Decisions, right. I know where I don't want to start. No, I'm just kidding. UM, let's start with let's start with Ashley and Michael, because that's
really where I don't want to go. You know what's crazy? I actually I'm not sure if the rest of y'all agree, let me know in the chat, but I actually am liking Ashley more this season. Then I've liked her in previous season. Um, I think that that baby has done her motherfucking good. I think she grew up a little bit. Um, but I do I think that that is why she is still going through ship with Mr Michael Um. She
admitted this season that they have added people to the bedroom. UM. And he came out recently and was like, I don't feel like you're married to me anymore. You show all of your um attention to the baby. And she also opened up about how she doesn't want to swing anymore, and he's like, well, ship, you ain't giving me a
tin and you don't want to do this anymore. I'm not gonna lie to like what he said in the in the therapy session, but he pretty much just feels like he's not having the same sexual relationship with Ashley as when they first started to cover their relationship. What are your views on that? Assante and Tammy? I see Tammy raise your hand. Raise your hand so that we can talk about what y'all thoughts are on Ashley and Michael Darby's relationship. But Assante will start with you, yeah,
why you tallly them up? Um? Let me just start with I don't have any favorites. I hate them all equally. I mean, they all really play in the mass, which is why we're here, right. It's just I don't like the playing the masks where we're gonna hide our hand because of respectability politics thing that we're doing. I get that that's where they think that there are they are, but they're really not. So I just I just need that veil dropped now to get back to Ashley and
why I hate her. Michael wanted to hold having a baby over and you wanted to hold that over her head because of the way that her mom was. That should have been a huge red flag. Do you want to go half with this white man who really wants to say you know, who wants to emotionally abuse you? And then we're gonna open up this conversation about you know, letting people into the bedroom, right, Michael since season one
has grabbed as on camera. Now, unless we're gonna do the red table talk with Will and Jada, if if we'll need to come to and we need everybody to be accountable, let's go on ahead and say not only do we open our bedroom, but we open it up to both sexes so everybody can stop motherfucking asking about the Gate ship because Michael, you didn't even talk about you didn't talk about like Mike, you didn't talk about why you told this woman you had a wife and
a boyfriend. We didn't go back there? Are you waiting? Are you waiting to go back there? Because is that has not been brought up again? And I was wanting more details on that. Just cleared up the fact that you know the fact that there was a nigger in the room, or you know that he did go up with said woman, but didn't not clear up why he told said woman he got a wife and a boyfriend. So but you are you saying, like, okay, so who's
his boyfriend? You know, I don't care if you gotta ask, like you know, have we have we slept with him before or like you know, however, you need to feel comfortable normalizing it. You need to do it because quit pussy footing around and then arguing with black old ass Bill Gates who don't love his damn wife no more like on the reunions that should just be so sorry. No, So I'm not gonna lie um and I'm about to let me a talk on this um topic as well.
But I think that that's my problem. Um. And we've talked about it. If you guys noticed, not only with Red but Zach who was our guests this week, we've had bisexual men on the show. And I think it may come to where maybe Ashley doesn't want to admit that she is okay with Michael being bisexual. UM. So I think she used the swinging as a way to like, let it just be known that, yeah, we allow other
people into the bedroom. But I think, for whatever reason, they're still shame in women admitting that they're okay with being with a man that may like to play with men. Um. And that's just I think where she finds not being okay with admitting she would rather just be like y'all were swingers than we let other people in the room. Uh miya um, if you can go ahead and unmute what you got to say about the Darby's system, so
can you hear me? Just fine? Okay? So I it definitely in the beginning, UH didn't like either one of them. I did feel like Ashley was always doing the most always and everybody's business all that. I do feel like Asante said what I think about Michael, like he just kept moving the gold post on Ashley like and now she has gotten to the goal post finally, like he held the damn baby and then it was you know. Now it's you don't, You're not here for me, but her baby is fresh out
