Ep190: Bible Bussy Banter

with the show. Guess what decision we're about to make. Horrible Decisions. Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Horrible Decisions. I'm your girl, Mandy b a k A debt bitch a k A tripod Mommy, Guys, Horrible Decisions. If you've never heard our show before, it's disgusting. It's really not congratulations. I'm not usting and I have one. It's you know, quite normal. You know who may have had a boyfriend someone in the Bible. Today we're going to talk about.

We had a lot of episodes where we cross referenced religion. One of my favorites we had Pastor Corey. He came in talked a little bit about Christianity with us. However, we've never done an episode about celibacy and the origin of it, why we choose to be celibate, why people have talked about it, the difference with abstinence, but particularly I thought it would be fun to talk about the Bible and references with sex, because I feel like the world has been grooming us for sex since BC, before

Christ and before cock because we knew it. So Brianda, we have her in the studio today. You guys are patrons, you've heard of her. But if you haven't heard of her, tell us who you are. What's your podcast is? I don't know, Like, am I supposed to talk while you're talking? But my name is Brian stuff. That's her stick I know. Okay, Okay, that's cool. Wait, but I'm Brianda. I'm a podcaster, actor, and I love you girls. Both of these ladies have been on my programs Super Trip Talk literally the only

two episodes that like hit over a thousand animals. I'm not even kidding you. Like, seriously, you guys, your cloud was amazing, but your presence was even better. Um and yeah, I'm celibate, bitch. That was that was God. He was like me talking God. That was God protecting me from you. Ethn So ship the celibacy is on the bulk of our episode, but just a way to like talk about

this a little bit more with you. Like we've both had our separate conversations with Brianda about celibacy, but I still feel like I don't really get it all the time because sometimes you present such a We talked a little bit about, you know, celibacy and other episodes, and we've never really talked about why why people want to do it. And even with you, sometimes I get confused

because you give me a lot of sexual energy. Not me, but like I think you're very sexy person and you're flirty, and I think we think when we think celib it like oh my god, church girl, like you know, a little chastity belt on her posty, But tell us where it came from because you've had sex before, Oh a lot of it, yes, in many different ways. Like I just think that when you pigeonhole any one group into like one saying you'd be wrong, Like there are nuances,

people are different, Like I do like being provocative. I'm in I'm an entertainment. I'm not wearing a bra right now, Like I live freely and i live my life, but I'm not pigeonholed to this. Like you know what, I'm far from prudish, but you get what I'm saying. Like there's just more I would love with this episode to just expand people's minds to people who choose to abstain from having sex and they're not this like prudish, like boring. Also, I swear, which I'm trying to stop, but I swear

I speak provocatively. You say I flir. I mean, I don't think I flir, but I've been told I'm a little coquette. But honestly, I think that me being celibrate makes me more flirty because I know nothing would ever happen. I just want to connect with people and sometimes comes off a different kind of way towards me. So we we interviewed fran um Darren Quarantine, and something that I see that you keep going back and forth between is using the word celibate and using the word abstain, which

is what abstinences. So I guess we spoke with fran about being abstinent. What then is the difference, do you see, because right now you're interchanging both of the words. Yeah. So when I started, it was only abstinence, like I wasn't even Christian when I decided I'm going to take a break. So that's why I refused to you cell but celibate is when you're doing it for the like for religious reasons, which today I would say that that is why. But it started to answer like your first question.

I wanted to be celibate because I wanted to figure out why I felt fucking shame and guilt every single time I would masturbate or have sex with someone, Like why did I feel these sensations of guilt? And I wanted to figure it out because I didn't feel guilty, but the sensations were comparable, right, And I mean like you come and then you felt bad, yeah, or sometimes

i'd cry. No, sometimes I'd like I just feel terrible, and I would be like, I don't know why I'm having sex with my boyfriend, Like I don't get it. But I saught therapy. I wanted to figure out. I wanted to know if you went to therapy because I wanted to know if maybe that stem from some sort of trauma that you hid in the back of you know, your mind. Maybe let me tell you something, Okay. I grew up in an immigrant household about my dad and

my mom, yes, and my sister. So all three of them were sexually abused or diddled as children, all of them. I was the only one in my household that didn't. So in my house we didn't only did we not talk about sex, but sex was almost really like a taboo thing because the older people around me were dealing with their own conflicts and pains, so if anything, it was avoided even as a kid. Like like I said, I wasn't diddled as a kid, But I hate saying

I don't want to that's a distasteful joke. But I remember I would try and make connections with my family and I'd be like, please let me come and talk to me, touch me, attention, And I wouldn't get that that. I think that's why I want to be an actor, because I want attention. I'm a narcissist, I'm vain, I like, like, you know what I mean. I I just want attention all the time. I didn't get that as a kid.

It's almost like I recognized love by neglect, and these are things that I had to learn by isolating the sex from me, just so it could make my life a little easier. So now that sex is gone, right, how long has it been a little over two years? Now that it's gone, what would be the thing that would let you have sex again? Right? Like? Would it be marriage? Would it be a serious relationship someone who's worthy? What is it for sure? That That's a tough question.

But as it stands today, because I wanted to prepare for this session today, I'm gonna go ahead and say it would be marriage, really? Yeah? Yeah? Or can I be honest with you, I would have to know that we were getting married. I'm talking about I've met your family, you've met my family. Can I ask you though in this I don't want to Why do you? Because I want to get into this though, because you're waiting for marriage. You're like, I have to make sure I met his family,

he met mine? But then what what does marriage mean to you? What does marriage constitute to you? Because to a lot of people, including myself right now, it is just a business. Um, it's a transaction for financial you know, taxes. Essentially, that's really it. Because I have openly talked about unfortunately being someone on the receiving end of love from a married man. I've I've gotten financial gain from a married

man without being married. Um, and also even I mean, I'm a huge fan of a Housewives of Potomac, But she she sat here and had these vows, got a pre nup, and now she's discussing a post up with her husband. So I just want to know, what, what does marriage signified for you? That that's what you're waiting for for sure. So I think I had the benefit of having a more secular upbringing and never wanting to get married, Like I've only ever wanted a career and

to take care of my family. That's just been it. And I think that kind of sets me up in a way that opens my eyes to what marriage could be. I've never had this idea of like a grand wedding or whatever. I don't even really want it. For me, marriage is having a foundation of like love and trust and devotion and also a devotion to honestly your spirit, yourself,

whatever that may be. Like, they don't need to necessarily practice Christianity per se, but they need to have a connection to their spirit and themselves I need that hands down because that's what I need for my family. So when you ask me what is marriage to me? I would say, like, marriage really is a bond between me and my partner and spirit like God, whatever that is

from them. And and wait, get this. The gnarliest part about celibacy is that if you meet the right person, you get to figure out ways to love each other and show each other affection that are outside of our genitalia Are you kidding me? And then the sex is just a cherry on top. I'm sure you know. I think I've had deeper connections with women because there's no

penetrative sex. That sounds weird, but like with women, I've grown closer to them initially, right, I think the intimacy that I've had with you know, the lover is and I don't even love her, let's say boyfriends I've had, the intimacy came after sex and after a lot of sex. But with women, I can recall like getting closer before we had sex. Because with women, I feel like you never know if you're a by person, like sometimes like

this is my homegirl, is it not? We get closer and closer and closer, and that is really the only thing that sometimes makes me want to wait when having sex with men. But to be honest, I think a lot of the times that I don't is because the more and more that I do this show I realize sex can be something I can enjoy and table it and leave it. So I don't mind having sex with someone if I don't feel like I'm connecting with them that deeply, because I can just enjoy and living that

and not feel guilty about it. Understood now that the whole guilt thing is going to be a lifelong journey of mine to you know, navigate much like a lot of our internal child we all feel have felt gifty. You'll have to be why I do that or what we're sure? Now I have a question for you to because podcast justn't funny to say, well, because I think it will help the listeners really understand celibacy at its core.

So Mandy, first, yes, how long has it been or how long have you ever been celibate or like abstained from having sex? Choice? So y'all know it was there like quarantine. How long was that? Uh? I would say about I would say realistically about four months since I've like was probably the longest that I went from why did you do it? Well? First saw which I was locked in my house and then and in the beginning I'm not gonna lie, a part of me was like, oh my god, Dick isn't available. I want to fly

some end. And immediately I went to like realizing like, okay, none of these things are worth my time, like let me find myself during this time, and even when I was speaking a friend and during that time, I was, you know, not having sex. It was before I met my boyfriend, and I really found ways in which I did probably it's start and continue relationships that didn't have value to me. Um. And I also noticed that I was maybe giving a lot of people my time that

didn't deserve it. And I did realize that in the scent of just not giving myself to anyone. So yes, wait and now you wheezy, how long was yours? And have you ever done it by choice? Practice absidence? So I did it to heal from a breakup, and then after I went a certain amount of time, then I did it by choice because I feel like the circumstance of the breakup is why I just started saying I was cell of itate and using the word cell of it as not using abstinent, but I now realized it was.

But it started just not doing it was like, oh, I need to help from this breakup, and then it was like, okay, no, I need to take it away because then I'll know if I could do it or not. So making that active choice was fun. But you use the word healing and you use the word like waste of time and stuff. Ladies, that is literally what I'm doing it doing, but I'm taking a step further like that's but it's exactly the same thing because you're not

even masturbating. Correct, No, I'm not. Have you gotten closed? Oh yeah? When I okay, so we don't have to talk about it now. But okay, fine, I was virtually dating this guy. Asshole. You want to go, like check him out. It's on my podcast. It's called Quarantine Bay ghosted me because he fucking did, asshole. How do you get ghost in core? Jesus, don't I don't know. He was a Cornell lawyer, asshole though, coming just it's important

what where the hell he went? Because we posted me and he knew about myself as he I'm talking about. We would speak for eight hours a week like during I really did fall for him, and I fall in love easy, right, and I like masturbated for the first time in years, like with him, and it was the very first time I've ever done that. And for the first time it didn't I didn't feel guilt or shame. So I was like, but but but he broke my heart and and I still and I don't masturbate now. No,

he did not break my person. And this is to say I don't masturbate, but I will say I still get horny. Like one of my favorite things to do is watch videos of men crying. It just turns me on and then listen. And when I do the next morning, I'm humping my pillow. And why do you type in to find videos of men cry? It's a great question. How do you say, the only time that I see men cry is during the NBA fucking finals. That's so hot. Tears. I just used the range in video. Let me tell

you it's tears someone died. No, but I've done it, and I get that. But no, so I'll research like grooms looking at their brides walking down the aisle. You google cantube YouTube all of it. I've seen it all not mad to listen the next morning if I see that, like, my bunties will be so wet, no pants. Oh my bilingual honey is lett. Yes, I listen, you're English made. Tell me those three months in Mexico doesn't mean I

am not Mexican. I'm serious. We had to uh so, like I had to re like call to get the electricity turned on with the crimins saloom as we're going back and the guys on the phone, He's like, well let me tell you how it works. Please, I don't need you to say anything. I've been there. I know I've done it. I know exactly what happened, so like, please, I'm from tom basically like I know, yes, yes, look it up. You should have seen me when I got pulled over. I was like, I know Sergio nameing people.

They're like, we don't give a you guys. Look when I see you, guys, I want to speak Spanish and I don't mean a light skinned but you know what's crazy. I think I have trauma with that because I remember in middle school Spanish. No, seriously, there's trauma. I would get a substitute teacher and they'd say my name, and you know, I may be either asking if I was a tea or something. I'd be like, no, I'm black. And he's like, but your name it comes from Latin Amanda.

And I said, but it's Amanda. It ain't Amanda nigga like and I would Amanda, Yeah, it comes, it's there's an it's like, that's what he said. Looking at what's what a goal? I don't know. Looking at they said Amanda came from like Puerto Rico and something. Maybe he did, I don't know, but he was trying to tell me love. I knows deserving to be loved and I do deserve to get right now, do you know that last? I love you? So people a cole meaning of it. For

love is God. All of that, that's what That's what God come to Bible study, I will, okay. That's where I used to be a mission. I used to actually have to memorize versus of the Bible and I would get little really, I would get a little pet name on the fash. Oh bish, I forgot that ship. Now it's hard because it used to be a compet titian for me to be honest. So so the fact that even the way I learned the Bible because if I if I learned it and I memorized it, I had

to say it in front of the class. It would be on Wednesday's missions and I had a satchel and you would literally get like girl Scout badges for every book of the Bible that you learned and recited. It was really it was yeah, it was kind of yeah. No, I didn't do any of that ship when I was a little. Yeah, I didn't have I didn't go to church, and everyone, well, oh we get into it white, we got it out larned ship. I want you guys to know that I've don't move like because it knows go

you know, the police and Vietnam. Someone's offended. First of all that listen to this show, they love me. There's like three of them one girl. So we only got three Asians twenty six white people. I don't know. Like, so one girl. We have Fanny that I know about, okay, yeah, wrote me. She was like, my name ade Fanny and I was like, okay, well you never do I don't know you are, okay, so based and being no, I'm seized.

This is disgusting. But as a bunch of people tagged us in this on Twitter, three hundred and forty five thousand used condoms that were cleaned and sold as new What yes So. Footage was broadcasted on their television like on their newscast, with large bags containing contraceptives scattered across the floor of a warehouse in Bindung, and police said the bags weighed more than seven pounds, equivalent to three thousand condoms. I'm sorry, I'm looking at a picture. Use me.

The owner of the warehouse said they received a monthly input of news used condoms from an unknown person and basically they cleaned it. A woman was detained during the bust and told the police that, um, they were boiled in water, then dried and reshaped on a wooden fallust before being repackaged and resold. Here's the interesting things. Just when we drink water, Yes, it's filtered. Yes, of someone ship in it before. Okay, I don't know. You shouldn't look at it like that, but it is. But it

is like in spaceships. I only know because for fact Snake NASA episode. But in spaceships basically their p and their ship it's all filtered through and it's clean through system to come out as clean water and that's the water that we drink as well. It's sewer water and it's filtraded and they clean it. But they'd be getting our water from other places to like springs like Zephyr Hills is from a spring, and are like, just don't go into springs, bro, But they reuse the water. It's

reclaimed water. Just watching you. But what I'm saying is reclaim condoms. No, that is I am not like, you know what's crazy, But the way we use condoms, even as soon as we like say during sex, as soon as you pull it off, it's not even reused, like it doesn't even really go back on to secure the same I guess that's why they're cleaning it. Boiled the ship. Maybe A shrinks back said, who ever had a Nike and try to reuse a condom that right now? Because

I have, and I remember getting mad. Yeah there's no more, Yeah, and there's just there's just no more. Well, I've done the mistake of taking a condom all to suck it in between and him being like, so I don't have anymore then, why did you let me take it off? You don't suck it with the condom, you I mean, but I end up tasting the condoms sometimes anyways, because because whatever the inside casing is the taste on the dick, which is why everyone's like, well, how do you know

what a magnum taste like? As soon as you pull it off, that inside casing is what I'm tasting in my mouth. Then gold condoms is nest which ones. I'm just gonna tell you what. Look take one girl, right, because do you even track your ovulation or anything or your body actually have the I U D. And I'm taking it out next month, and I feel like I'm going to get more Christian months it's out. I don't know, more Christian wants your idea that? What does that mean?

I'm yeah, it is. There's two, So there's one the competing you're gonna be wanting to have sex? Well, I guess we'll see. I don't know. The copper one is no check my next month I will tell. But you know, I've had it for five years. It's got to come out. I also want to let my body do it's thing. I'm twenty seven now and my body is doing weird things like I'll hold my belly like I'm pregnant, or like I'll like hold my cat like it's my little baby,

like all my titty and stuff. Do you guys know? No? Girl? And I got I got Body, and I don't be holding him because I mean I want to be a mom because that mother. Oh it's so funny because my friends are like, you sound like a black ass mama with your because I'll be like, Body, don't get your motherfucking off. That's not to And he knows as soon as I get up and go like this, he just run. Have you had your cat since it's a quarantine kitty? Ap? Why did that sound like you? It's a quarantine kitty?

How long your cat? Three years? So the rest of the gros that listen to this show, I am not in that bone at all. Black don't she saved my life? Okay, so no emotion. I think we think you you know, emotional support is why I got Body's name is melancholy. You said what you couldn't got an a because a dog. I would have had said, you should have got your boyfriend and gotten rid of the cat, babysitter my boyfriend right after the cat. And I was like, damn, BODYE not,

I don't even need your ass. I got both at the same at the same time, I put some of the horhive men like or that if there's anyone out there, like I'm definitely checking, but y'all got to get a ring. I just want to make a point. I went out Brianda a few weekends. We hang out a bar around her crib and she left once or went to the bathroom, and someone said to me one of the bar tenders, He's like, why are you doing this every weekend with her fucking going out? And she you know, she ain't

trying to get down like that. I'm like, just because she loves Jesus, show me that cats work. Like I'm sorry, this sh don't bother me at all, Like, wait, why do you do this to her? Like Brihanna was like, oh, I shouldn't have came out. She had a little bandetta. I had just finished praying. Like, I was like, I'm not gonna do you drink liquor? Yeah, I do drink. I do drink. I didn't want to eat edibles. I

do mushrooms. You guys don't have a Seconday. I'm getting high, and so I'm like, do you want him or not? It's just like no, okay, okay, I don't care to me, Like if I hang with someone and they know who

I am, they funk with me. It's kind of like when you hang with a vegan, like if they're cool, they embarrassed, like if they know I'm gonna eat me and they find what can I tell you how Anning my friend, one of my best friends who's coming um to celebrate my birthday with me, were getting like ceviche on the boat. Right, this bitch don't eat shellfish. They said, well, we can substitute with hummus. I said, no, we cannot.

At the bit. You better bring your whole sex because we get the c and then she doesn't eat meat. So they offered burgers, and Sevia said, okay, I said, bitch, for you, uh, we'll do the We'll do the little vegan burgers, a little fake ships, but sitting burgers be okay. Anything else they have. You know why I love you, bro. You know he's gonna feeling No, he wasn't. Okay, Well that point on the pork right, they had a big old one they had done. It's come fross too much.

Oh you guys are ridiculous. Shut the up, bitch. We off here eating chickens doing our duty generationally, our ancestors want to need to eat chickens. You know what I'm saying. They didn't want y'all have cats, but wait, not even chicken. And I feel bad because my nigga don't even eat pork. So when we went to a little Mexican spot, I said, could I have the out pa store? He was like, what is store? I said, what, bitch? Pork with pineapples. It's I think I'm not start by still is it?

It's pork and pineapple stores for type of the type of it's the way the meat, it's stories pork. Right, No, I am too poor for this. I don't know from a Mexican restaurant. Maybe cheat told you pays based on lamb. Based on lamb, swarm me brought to Mexico, New Mexicans with putting pork and at their question me about the opp store when you feed a little bit more time to Mexico pineapple. So anyway, all right for the horrid derve,

I want to talk about blow jobs. I think we're gonna need to revamp and do an episode about this because this is a very basic tip. But you guys don't seem to know it when you're sucking dick. Men, women whoever has a mouth that they're about to put on something that's shaped like a dick, if it's a

real dick and not a strap. Keep in mind, Okay, a lot of the times it's easy to stay right at the hip and I feel like we look at you know, tips online or people are always talking about the friend of them and all these parts about how like, you know, the head is very sensitive. The base of the dick being dry is not sexy at all, and you got to use the rest of your mouth. Also, a lot of people are worried about their gag reflex.

Never have I ever heard of niggas say in my life, and excuse me if I'm overstepping here, say I don't want to hear the sound, and it bothers me so badly that I don't want you to get to the rest of my dick. Please stop worrying about the gag, because you should put some effort in. You know what I'm saying. I think that men enjoy when it looks like you may be trying to die on it. Put

the dick in your mouth. I've seen hilarious more fucking men, like I mean more important lately, we're like bitches are just staying right here and doing like a little no no, put some effort put it in your mouth, but you want someone to you wouldn't want to be put in your mouth. Also, when it's in your mouth, make sure your tongue out as well, because if you're just sucking it, bens it could do that. That's his job to put the vocal in your mouth, right, and this is very important.

Make sure that your tongue can be felt on it because that's another sensation in itself, because right, your mouth is technically a cave, and that's really what it's doing when like it's making the shape, right, you're putting it in a cave. But they want to know it's a wet cave. So if you take your tongue out and you're like have it sticking out while you suck dick, the dick will get wetter. You'll get more saliva coming out. But not only that, it'll be a different sensation from

just this hollowey cave mouth thing you have. Okay, taking out your tongue and i'd imagine when it hits the back of the throat, you salivate a little more, giving you more juice. Question though, it's just like if you had your mouth open right now and you're supposed to hold it open right it's gonna start dripping. So like the wider that you put your mouth and the more that the tongue is out, that's really what I'm just

gonna start. I have really low self esteem. So like when I'm with a guy, every guy who's ever guys look at me when I'm giving them head know, they look at me like I'm a homeless person asking for change, like just come back up here, like they just just so, are you nervous when you suck big? I just I mean about my abilities? Why I just don't feel like I know what I'm doing. So it's so funny because my tip was going to be for the ladies who

don't like to gag, like myself. My my my boyfriend definitely likes to get because I'll be I'll have to hit him in his face because he likes to like make me go down there and gag. So what I do to avoid this is I fake gag, so I'll like what That's actually really funny. So my tip for the ladies who really hate gagging, but you know your partner likes you to gag, just fake gags. So I'll literally still be at the head and be like, and I just make fake noises like I'm gags, but I'm

really not. And I'd be like, and I just make all these little fake gag noises because I don't want to die sucking dick. Do you guys switch tempo and stuff? Yeah, I'll do that, like really what I do though? And I noticed this because he made me give him a hand job one time. He was like, I want to see if you can make me come with a hand job, like no mouth, no nothing. And I realized too, how how much uh more firm he wanted me to grip his dick because he was pretty much telling me what

he likes. So instead, I know a lot of us just go up and down, but a lot of men actually like you to kind of you know, squeezing. He did, he did forever. I was like, nigga about it? Come in then? So what I would do without putting my mouth on it? I went to the top and like would make my spitfall, but I could only do it with my hand. He was like, I want to see if you could do it, and it did. It took a while, but with that, but with that, I learned even just the pressure he liked for me to apply

on his shaft. So now I feel like that helped me know when I'm when I am sucking his dick, even if I am staying at the top, I know he likes it to be squeezed a little harder than I thought he would have liked. To keep in mind, like when men wear cockerings and ship like that, or they take pills, it's blood flow. So when you're squeezing it tighter, like they're feeling the blood blood flow. And I'm not saying squeeze the dick and make it erupt,

but I'm not. We wanted to rub old baby has always told me, like if it's early in the morning and he's not hard yet or whatever, like he always told me to squeeze it and it's so squeezing. It is definitely like a tip. The first question when I go on on dates with guys and I like let them know on the a that I'm sellingbate, Like the first thing they'll ask is like like everything, so he had jobs too, Like no, they'll ask like, like your oral no, and I'm like, no, no, why would I

want that? I would drive myself crazy. Yeah, that hate when people say, like when you're in your period, they'll make like a joke about it. That doesn't work. And it's funny because we many I were just saying, I don't know, the last week or whatever, we've had some guests on it don't like sucking dick, and it's I feel like such a bit because I feel like I don't understand. I don't understand it. Maybe that's why we have this job, but I truly do not. You like

it because you're good at it. I don't like it because I'm not good at that. So that's what I'm think enough to admit that. Tell me. Y'all heard a few episodes about I think it was right that I was fucking nicked his dick with my teeth. But in my defense, we actually circled back to this conversation. I was like, look, I brother this up in an episode. We need to talk about it again. He said he's never ever had a girl, not never not felt teeth

on his dick. But yeah, because you said it's you just that sucking that dick can you imagine how insecure would feel, right, but also I'm in it for myself. Wow, you're so brave. Thank you. You know there's there's brand aids and I also halls talk about it not be putting no band aid on this. So we're gonna get into the horrible decision this week, and she got I called it Bible bussy because there's so much gay stuff

in the Bible. But really I thought it would be fun because we talked about Christianity and some of the hypocrisy and how there's a lot of welcomeness in there with Pastor Corey. But specifically, I thought it'd be cool to talk about stories of sex in the Bible. Mandy and I have a dope episode called ho Story on Patreon where we talked about, um, all the sex stories from back in the day that we found a lot

of prostitution and ship like that. But Brianna is going to teach us today about some little skanky stories in the Bible. Oh my god. Okay, well I didn't know I was going to be the teacher. Mind you, guys, I am not a minister pastor. I don't I'm not good, all right, So I wanted to talk about the story of Sodom and Gomorrow. Why don't we just go there? Okay, sodom, sodomy, yes, which we all know what what is sodomy when you put a broomstick? Sure? Why? Just like I thought it was, like,

sodomy is a bunch of things. So it's also yeah, if you look up sodomy in the dictionary, it's a. It's a. It's like it's considered anal sex. I thought it was any but that's the first one. But there's also in the dictionaries of sexual anniverse involving anal or oral copulation. So basically, even if your mail is on the axe and on the ass, then it's I know, objects to it's everything exactly, not like that. I like being about Buddha, which brings me to the story of Sodom.

So I wanted to like really go for the more extreme story. This story and the story and judges these are the really ones that like people even skip but not every story in the Bible is like this. By the way, do not let this suay you from meeting the Bible. So I'd realized that everyone in Sodom and Goborra was doing wicked things quote unquote wicked things, killing, gang raping, raping their daughters, giving their children. Like, I'm

talking about a lot of really heinous, vile things. And God went to his homie Abraham, Abraham for the Jews, head out, the father of the Covenant, you know, the father of all nations, the father of Israel. And he went him and he was like, bro, I'm about to put Sodom on lockdown and burn that ship down. And Abraham was like, whoa, whoa, why whoa. I know you've done it before, but like, let's talk about this. And then God was like, okay, listen, this is what they're

doing X y Z, and then he said okay. Abraham was like, God, wait, let's talk about this. Well, what if there were a thousand righteous men? Are you gonna burn them all down to? And God was like all right, let me check. And then God was like, okay, there's not a thousand good people down there are you talking about? And then Abraham was like, okay, wait, check, what about five?

What if there are five hundred good people down there, You're just gonna burn them all the way to And then God was like all right, final, let me check check. Still not even five hundred, and then Abraham's like ten. He goes and goes, motherfucker, there aren't even ten righteous people down there. It's going down. And then he said, okay, wait,

my nephew Lot is down there. Please spare him, you know, Abraham, that's really what Abraham was trying to get at, because Abraham's family was sacred in the Bible, especially in the Old Testament. So God goes, all right, I will hook your nephew and his family up. He sends down two angels to Sodom too, angels, and they meet at the court square. Mind you, the court square is where is popping where everyone congregates. It's why they all do the

exactly the lower East side of New York City. Yes, and then they see the Lot sees them, and he sees like other people approaching them, like they're about to bait them, because in this town that they see new people, new men specifically, that's where we go. So then you know, a lot goes can't come to the courts where it coming come to my house. Please. This is a depiction

of hospitality, which people don't talk a lot about. But he was being hospitable to these eight two angels he brings them in, and the angels tell him all right, y'all, y'all gotta go because God's about to burn this ship down. Let's pack it up, let's go. Araham's like, well, hold on, what, No, I'm not ready. I mean a lot his nephew was like, I'm not ready. I haven't even packed my things, like I got my daughter's here. And then all of a sudden,

in lots Home Insadom they here. The whole town is outside of lots House, and I'm talking about people from all ages, men, women, old, young, and they're like, hey, bring out those two guys. We saw you all go in there with bring him out. We want and you want to know what they said in the let's let's go. Let's pray for Mandy real quick. So the people in the town go, bring him out. We want to get to quote unquote know them carnally, which in biblical terms

means anal yes. And a Lot was like, no, you cannot, because Lot was a lot of not partaking these things. Lot was like, okay, wait, hold on, what if I gave you my two daughters and said like please, I know so many things. But that shows that he's not really is righteous are good either, but we have to also judge him based off of the like where the time was that Jerry common, especially like with concubines. They would get listen, we talked about the gays having the ship,

end of the stick, talk about women and children. Yeah, let's talk about that. But any who, So he offers him that and they were like no, and then the angels like, we gotta get going now. They end up planning their escape. It's a Lot, his wife and his two daughters, and they plan out their escape to leave Sodom anymore. And then the angels tell them, all right, listen, we're going to go straight ahead, and you cannot so much as look back at the old town. And Abraham

was kind of a a lot sorry. Lot was kind of hurt because a Lot lived and saw him for a really long time, and he kind of felt whole full for those people. He almost felt like, I don't know, maybe he could like fix them or there was hope for them or something. And the angels were like, no, there's not, and God has made his decision. Go. So

they end up walking. It's everyone and as they're walking, Lot's wife turns back to look and God has already started the second they're not God's starting pellets of sulfur flames. It's a scary sight. And his wife sees his wife. Lot's wife defies what the angel said, and then she turns into a pillar of salt like assault statue. And that's it. Abraham's like, Goddam angels are like, we weren't kidding when we said, don't look back at your past.

You have to keep going forward. Anyways, That's how he gets out of Sodom. The wait and that's really Brianna, I need to produce a podcastle for I would love to please. I am telling you I'm not fucking around for that was they would invest my own money that you're saying, okay us And then he just came down.

I say, it's blasphemous from using swear words. I'm not perfect, but whatever, But I'm an entertainer, and I think that it's all about the times, right, Like I'm an entertainer when you are like trying to speak to a certain group of people and a certain demographic that will take digestice better, like our listeners are going to enjoy this more. I love you. Didn't even hear the end of it into wait, listen, that's the end up kind of like and Sodom was destroyed Sodom and gon that the neighboring

some neighboring towns. But y'all, so now it's a lot and his two daughters that are left, and they're thinking that it's like the end of the world. Imagine imagine knowing that they end up going to this cave in a place called Zor, and their father is, you know, is very old. The sisters plot and they go, all right, we need to save our family line because their family line is like sacred. They're like, know, we need and they go to fund let me continue. The eldest daughter

talks to the younger daughter. It was like, sister, it was like, we got it. We gotta fun dad. You gotta get him. She goes, we gotta get him drunk, and we gotta do it. The first night the eldest got her father drunk and did the deed, and then the next night the younger sister went in got the father drunk again. You cannot know real quick, not that you memorized it, but does it say art thou poured wine upon thy glass for thy father? Like in so

many words. It um you know, they you know, the scripture is kind of like biblical poetry, and I don't have a memorized per se, but it's something along the lines of I was handicapped by the wine or something like in so many words, I was incapacitated by the wine, which like, really, dad, really not, I don't think so shut well, he ended up yeah, he ended his daughters. He end up coming in both of them. They both got pregnant. It is all up. Okay, I might want

to read about but you don't understand. But let's understand. But you have to understand that this team, which I don't necessarily really believe, but they say that the girl the sisters were doing this because they thought the world was over and they wanted to procreate girl fucking me and my daddy gonna boy. Yeah, well, the listen the Bible. Okay, And this is what I also want to say about the even the let's take it, let's macro level. The

world is an imperfect, dangerous, wild place. It's also beautiful and magnificent, and like we get to build these relationships. You guys have this massive podcast city. It can be beautiful and it listen the Jews did no. Um, oh my god, I love Jewish men. But listen the ones with the low curl. I love it all, you know what, especially the tall ones that play basketball. I've never then with a Jewish. What does the Jewish basketball play? I'm sure I can find one. Oh you mean you just

see him around what you neighbor? They look Jewish. Oh that's terrible to say. You're in So I can I just say Bible with Brianda, We'll be coming out soon. I'm not fucking playing. That was That was also discussing Yes, I would love to continue discussing the more beautiful parts of the Bible we have. We we do got to another story? So is right? Wait? Oh, Judges is more or less the same story? But I wanted to I can tell you. I can tell you more the Bible. It's in the Book of Acts and it's more or

less the same storyline. Um, do you guys really want me to get into this? It really is sort of the same. But it involves uh, concubine. You guys know what that is? Okay, class, So race don't raise your hand A lot of ones I go hold you. You know the only thing I thought about, but I noticed that what you're talking about, is it a concus that's a secment. I'm thinking of a whole hands and pray for Mandy's libato who you said. I'm thinkingna like the

demons and Charmed or something, somebody in prison. No, no, no, it means okay. So biblically it means a like a side woman, a side piece. Oh my god, man, he was like, is that a port part? You know what, Let's save Let's save that story for another podcast. I want to. I do want to end it on one though personally I gave you guys that story. This story is gonna be for me. So there's a story in the Book of John chapter five where Jesus goes out

to the pool of Bethesda. But Bethesda, which is where it's very kind of like the courts where where a lot of people congregating stuff. And but at this point Christ had, you know, the gentiles and people that weren't Jewish, like were were loved Jesus and believed that he was the Messiah. And Jesus was there kind of like a listen. Jesus was a rock star, if we kind of think about it, he was out there, you know, showing the people his embrace and like preaching, you know what I mean.

And listen, he sees someone from the crowd, and he sees a man who was on the ground looked ill. He sees them, and he he approaches him and he goes, I'm going to heal you, and then goes off being a rock star. He then comes back to check on him. He's still on the ground. Jesus like, really, get up. I healed you, and all of a sudden, this man can walk again. And there's something in that chapter that really hits with me personally. And it was and it said that that man who he healed did not know

who he was. And I think that's really important because it goes to show you that when it comes to loving God and Christ for that matter, it doesn't matter about the bells and whistles and the blessings you may have, like I have all of this that means I must be loved by God. No, God doesn't care about that. God sees you, and God sees righteousness. It'd be like almost like lying in your journal, lying to yourself in

your journal, Like you can't lie to God. God knows and he doesn't care about you going to church seven times a week, and like all of a sudden, he knows your soul. And that man didn't even know about Jesus, and Jesus healed him. Meanwhile, he was in a crowd of people who knew and loved him and was like sign my like and he's and he didn't care about that, yes exactly, and he did not. He chose the one

who did. And I think it's really important. Listen, I've read the Book of John on acid and it was transformative. It was transformati. Let's give a little precursor. So Brianna has a podcast like christian Ya. He's playing that a little please, because if you're right you you did? You get to explain, yes, explain real quick and listening to you what's your podcast was about, so they can know you a little bit more for sure. So if anything, uh,

psychedelics was what brought me to Christ. Like I was an atheist, I was like an atheist activist before all of this. So I would read the Bible, but it was only so I could like learn about it, so I could like and debate people about the really thing I would bring to myself about it. Just like so anyways, so, and I remember one of my favorite psychedelic um comics,

um uh duncan trustle. He had a podcast and he was talking about being on mushrooms and reading the Book of John and I said, it was my first time doing psychedelics ever was acid. And I said, all right, I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna I'm gonna read the Bible and be on asset. And I was also really depressed at the time and like suicidal, and I was like, I need something else, I'll go to it fine. And

it was just that line particular really hit me. And I feel like we all have our however way you get to Christ or whoever way you get to God or your own spirituality, whatever it's called, we all remember that first thing that cracked us open. And that was it for me, That line right there, it's it proved to me that it didn't matter that I haven't been baptized.

It didn't matter that I didn't, you know, necessarily understand most of the Bible, because my relationship with Christ was individual and mysterious in my own and it didn't matter about the bells and whistles because I don't know. I found it and I felt this. I was like overcome by love. Where's the parts of the Bible that they talk about celibacy? Like have you read anything? And you're like,

oh my god, this is me. This is what I'm an emulate, like oh yeah, okay, well here and there's so many okay, well, First Corinthians, which is I think the most famous book that that Paul wrote where people really got broken down like immorality, what's good and what's not? Lust and stuff, And it was the line that really got me and I was like, oh, I found home. Was do not deprive each other of sexual relations unless you both agree to refrain from sexual intimacy for limited time,

so you can give yourselves more completely to prayer. Wait, don't wait in there? Yeah wait yeah, say it again again, saying I'll repeat it weak. So this is in terms of marriage and chapter seven, verse five. Okay, do not deprive each other of sexual relationships unless you unless you both agree to refrain from sexual intimacy. So basically, don't hold that pussy out unless for a limited time. But what is limited? What is time? Because it's not three days?

You know, always one of which I got a three day period. Oh, God. But because you ain't been bleeding. Huh you guys to me, what are we get? Okay, guys, you have you just got by the way, congratulations on what's the new podcast called? We're gonna have another one? But Jesus said thing, yes, that's exactly. I like that too. But that's what Maybe the Bible with Brianda could be the Bible. You could say it all born, why you

never wanted to do this? No, this is great. I well I brought it up to you, but you are you didn't say it like gospels. Don't get me wrong. I love hearing you talk about drugs because I can. I be honest with you. This is a performer. So when I'm in front of a mike, I tapped dance Love. No I do you would say that he listen whatever, that's what he said, all right, Wait, we do have time for a little bit more around five minutes because we got oh hell yeah, okay, okay, wait, if we

got time, then I'll do girl five minutes. No, no, I can do I can then I can do judges. Okay, so judges is just as wicked and gory as no. Okay, well maybe actually I mean with all the rape they were doing probably all right, So this story is about

Lovite and his concue. We don't, no, we don't. So this mante he had a girlfriend, a concubine, and she cheated on him actually, which, by the way, just because they weren't considered a wife didn't mean that the men didn't have a relationship with them, you know what I mean. So I did feel that he felt something for her. Um, she cheated on him, and then after she did, she went back home. Because lovete actually stole the concubine. There's a lot of that comin sound Dr Love You know what.

I'm having my grains all the time, doctor, and you know it's finds water. Amanza. She gets on my damn nerves. I think she's on a podcast. She's just got too much going on. She always calling me all the time. Were you an accountant? Were there a bunch of juwesday? Maybe doing law, I mean bullshit law have it and the one the one where you get paid for being in a car accident. But no, there wasn't. Um, there was only one jew on my floor. Thank you for that.

And we do that because bitch, it got to be busy season. What is it right before the nine rum poor whatever for me out of here. But the New York Man You show Show Shanna, sat Show Shanna. I knew that was cool. Whatever it was, the nigga said, well, I can't be at work, and we was like busy thing. We was mad. We was like we did we all jewish? We ain't coming to work hucking boss. Now y'all know

I ain't ship. But my boss at the time, when I was working two companies before Young corpor was coming and Rosa Shanna right, and I was like, I want to get this Monday off. I was like, hey, t J, I just wanted you to know Rosha Shan is coming. And he looks at me. He goes, what the fuck have you ever been a jew? When the funk have you ever a day off? I am that cheat answering

this question would you eat every morning? But I I don't want to say anything, and I was like a sausage rink puppet and what is in that sauftage rink puffet? I saw it was beef yo and I'm damn sure I didn't go to work on Monday. I said, well human resorting to almost said my last name. It is the most jewish last name anyone you name me when I fucking call and type in those real estate companies

and call me back. So you're Jewish? I mean what I'm pleasur it is and whatever I'm being discriminated against and be like, wow, is this or this name? What is it? Tell me my name is so Jewish and has enough? Okay? Anyway, so how jewish was dalcr lo by Oh my god? Not Jewish enough? Okay? Wait, so she cheats, so she ends up leave it. So once cheats on Lovete, she leaves. She's probably unhappy, as most

side bitches are. So he goes out, and um, she goes to her father's house, and because that's where she used to live, she goes there. And you know what Lovete does. He goes after her because she was gone for four months. Four months his side piece was done gone. He was alone, He's lonely, was missing her. It wasn't sucking as dick the way this concubine was sucking it. That's not so listen. So wait, So so Lovete goes to her father's house and he treats her with like

I said, hospitality, which is a very common theme. And he goes, oh my god, hey, he's known as the father in law. Actually, um so he he says her for a number of days, and he convinces the concubine to please come back with me. Please. I don't know. Whatever we went through, it's kind of like a testament of like working things out, like for couples that like experience, you know, cheating and stuff. No relationship is perfect, okay, And even if the relationship you think are perfect, they're

not talking about their issues as the problem. But I think that that's a really that that part of the book was, That's what I gathered from them. Anyways, let's pass forward this a little bit. So he ends up leaving with his donkey and his in a bunch of food and wine and his concubine, and on their voyage they ran past this town that was similar to Sodom. The name is failing me right now, but it'll come to me. And the concubine was like, we can't stay here.

There's a bunch of pagan ship happening here. We gotta go somewhere else, and he was like, no, we're gonna be fine, don't worry. Listen, pagan ship for you guys is like kind of witchgraphy stuff things that they felt the magic color too, exactly. So they find themselves out another court square. It's it's um. It's Levi and his concubine with and his donkeys in the ship, and no one would be hospitable with him though no one would

invite him in. That's how they are there. That's what God really talks about, like the people who don't share, who are closed off. He doesn't funk with that, um. But eventually an old man sees them in the court square and it's like, you got what are you all doing here? Keep coming up? Listen, like legit, y'all gotta get back in here. No, seriously, is not good. This has to been the one righteous man in that town. Seriously, And they found him. They take him in right, and

then levit's like thank you so much, you know. The concubine is like, all right, baby, let's go to the back, like okay, we're fine. And then all of a sudden again the whole town is outside the old man's house. Again who they're saying and in the story, it's very similar to Sodom in Gabora, Like seriously, and they go we want to get to know your new visitors, get to know them carnally, which again we already know means rape you, gang, rape you, whatever. And then the old

man's like, no, please, don't take the concubine. Instead, bitches, they give him the concubine they offered. Yeah, and guess what, they fuck her. All of the town fox her and for hours. She ends up going somewhere else and coming back morning after and collapses on the ground. And then Love fights Caesar on the ground and he goes, get up. He sees that she's not moving. He goes, bitch, cut up. She's dead, and he is so pissed. He cuts her body up in twelve pieces. Oh of course, he wait,

let me tell you. He no you he no, no, no no. He cuts the pieces everybody, limb by limb, and he sends him to the nations, to the other twelve nations, so that they can see how terrible and and and discussing and horrible the town of It's a benj Benjamin Knights, The Benjamin Knights, that's those are the people that fuck the that concubine up and and and it basically was a turning point for like um showing them how vile they were, even though he did a

vile act by for sure, how long it takes the ship. It must have been thinking that's a very good thought. You're right, that's very good, but it's true, and he sent it. But he did in order to show them just how vile these people were, which if you really think about it, love I, you know one's more vile than you. You're the one that offered her up. You're

the one that like cut her up. One. But if you're thinking about this this through the context of Biblical times, he really wanted to show like, no, those people are fucked up. Like I told you, you can have her for a little right, y'all took it too far anyways. The Bible is a wild thing. That's but again the two stories that like, listen, people want to skip. Typically the Bible is also the achole thing. Yeah, the books, there's a yeah, those a lot of them skip it.

And that's a common thing and a lot of Abrahamic Christian because because I just felt like I watched a TV show. Oh man, that what a compliment coming from me. You're welcome, because that was exciting. It was when you said cut her up. I was like I thought I loved how Now hey, hey, so y'all know, just like she said, she ain't a pasta and read them books if you want to interpreted another way, because we know that the Bible is not really written in English. You

told him where to find Yeah? For sure? With that, John Love, I okay, John Jacob Joon. Now on for the whole confession. Yes, we haven't had a confession in a while. I appreciate this. I don't know who it comes from, but here we go. Hello, hell's I'm an avid male listener and a white bread sex haver. Why what does that mean? A white bread sexhor It's what's the have her sex? Have her? Have her? No, he has? He has sex white bread sex. So wait, he's white.

This man is white. So we got a white male listener. This is why he had a dream about me. Had to be. I hadn't been reluctant to share my dream because I didn't really want to. I don't want to read like a Sleezoh, dude, you're already weird sex. Didn't think y'all would care me. You and Mandy, Yeah, I dragged you into this. We really mean the club you could have left me out. Wheezy and me started messing around on the way to the suv parked down the street.

Mandy rolled her eyes and bounced out of disgust. Good, I like where this is going? Anyway? He was giving that great a oral that she brags about. Excuse me, it would sucking the white paint. After a while, she got frustrated that I hadn't come yet. She dropped her hands to the side, looked up at me like, really naked. Really? Oh wait, this is a white man and he types the N word. What's the wait? Wait wait, wait, wait wait wait wait white bread sex have he's white bread.

He's bread, and white likes having sex with white plain vanilla girl. Maybe he likes a white bread. Maybe right, people, you're trying to give us some some gluten free I don't think a white dude wrote really nigked, but and there's no aster he wrote. Wheezy looked up at me, dropped her hands in out of like, really nigked, which I would do, but not for you. What's white bread? Like? R E D no b A d oh wait, white bread? That's what I'm saying. That's what I mean. Okay, So

he's just suburbian. Yeah, straight and email it anyway. Look, we thought that the air work. You can say, you can't think you can write. Wait, white people can't. It's not necessarily racial and meaning. It's just an indication of blandness. Oh he's bland. Okay, okay, well, bitch, when you put white bread in the toast, it'd be tasting good. Same man, it ain't that bland. But okay, well, let's get past

the word. Reluctantly, she climbed into the back of the sub, rolled in her back through her legs behind her bed her head easily as she had on a short dress. Her eyes were absolutely shooting daggers at me out of disgust while I was overheard thrusting you sick. Fuck. I woke up laughing, but not on some dumb I was able to hold out on that head or whatever ship. I just imagined that she totally would have killed me

than for reading best tea boat signed the Proud Masturbator. Okay, you're fucking weird, though I don't know he's letter to this right now. Like, I'm not talking about his dream being weird. I'm talking about the white bread. That's what that's walk off. You can't pull white in a in contact and then say Nigga three sentences like that. Damn was like, and I thought you were a sex. We have a question. I have a question. Can white people not spell it out? Either? No? Okay, okay, I'm fine,

but I was just curious. Let me tell you why? Why? Because we yes, Jules, that really Nike A T shirt or whatever it was, and Nigga's let her happen. Yes, you know it's worse. Yes, Jules got increasingly worse. Like I feel like she wasn't that bad that many years ago. I was like, she's a white girl, like they were kind of right, and then that interview and was like talking about every black woman and just oh and Karen Simil wasn't hate you take a picture with kids too?

What was that in z Ways show? Maybe you guys gotta watch that show. And honestly, what bothered me about that most? It's like, I don't care if I don't really know Karen Sabel, but if she was being phony, at least her black ass did some that we are saying that it's not the same problem, you know what I'm saying. It's like, no, it makes me was profiting off of the culture and trying to be down so bad. Why are you telling us about a black woman who

well that was the problem too. She also um was recorded saying that black women are just jealous of her because when she walks into the room, she has the same body type as a black woman, but black men want her more. The dude that said he felt like she could say naked, Was it like Soldier Bloy or something? No, no, no, no no. It was the guy that she was interviewing that was interviewing her, some black dude. Damn. I can't remember his name right now, but y'all know who he

is because he's popular. But not so. We're walking on the street, me and old Bay. This is back in like November. What were we doing the night we went to Andrew show? Walking down the street. They knew each other, so they say what's up? And whoever recognized too? Oh? It was like, oh, yeah, she does a podcast, Da da da da, And I'm like, why do I know you? And he was like, oh, I have a show as well. I was like, aren't you the guy who gave yes dules the past to say nigga? Because no one asked

for you to do that. Old Bay was like, look me, like this, are you serious mind? You were in front of a club getting in because the dude was like, let's collapse, kill us something. What was his name? I don't know. Oh my god, it's gonna I don't know, I don't know what. I want to make sure I'm addressing the person correctly that told this Caucasian woman she could say it. He's like, so you spend it? You good?

You could say Nigga, Absolutely not. And I'm so tired of Nigga's that no black women have been hurt by somebody. They're just like, fuck them, you go ahead, what the funk. It was one of the most embarrassing things to watch from her, and then it made it even worse. It's like you watch people that we all know this in the industry than they were like kind of just skipping over it, and they just don't sunk with her. It's so weird. And she still wears box braids. Oh she

does very blonde on the other day. I don't know, I feel like that's gonna go anywhere. I feel like white people are still going to do the hair, the hairstyles. I am the black fishing for good black fishing. Um. Anyways, Brianda, let our listeners know once again, thank you again for joining us. If you guys like, if you guys love her, you guys can join our patreon. UM and there are

two episodes with Brianda on their right. We've done two with you, did with your former co host Caucasian and and then we don't have to and then and then we did one with just uh you most recently more recently colorism. Yeah. So someone just referenced you too about how your sister and you really did in the comments. UM, well, if you want to go ahead and let them know where they can find you, you guys, I love you. Thank you so much for this opportunity. UM again, my

name is Brianda. You can find me on All the Things, Twitter, Instagram at That's Brianda, and you can also follow my podcast super trip Talk at super trip Talk on All Things. If you have any more questions, you can just super trip talk dot com too. She's not very active on Instagram. I'm not, but I'm about to be, but she needs to be. That was his name. Oh okay, so uh yes, check out RIONI the follow me you said kill us something, but Marta same ship. Where where you going? Um? Well, guys,

make sure you guys check out this show again. She's amazing and I guess there y'all will probably get to hear and tell Bible stories before is over. Um or if not the top, I guess we're speaking out Bible ship. But check out us out on Patreon. We do live town halls every month. It's super funnies are our most up to date, up to dated, up to date episodes that you guys can get with Mandy and I is every Monday on our Patreon. Not every Monday's really every

three month, three mondays of month. Um. Other than that, let me try to feel, let me try to do this feel. You can listen to periods sist with Mandy. Then tomorrow you can listen to see the Thing is and you can listen to her facts. Say, okay, let's go peace all right, make sure you check it out. Stay two for the five minute on the slip by. I know where I don't want to start. No, I'm

just kidding. UM, let's start with Let's start with Ashley and Michael, because that's really where I don't want to go. You know what's crazy. I actually I'm not sure if the rest of y'all agree. Let me know in the chat, But I actually am liking Ashley more this season then I've liked her in previous seasons. UM. I think that that baby has done her motherfucking good. I think she grew up a little bit, um, but I do I think that that is why she is still going through

ship with Mr Michael Um. She admitted this season that they have added people to the bedroom. UM, and he came out recently and was like, I don't feel like you're married to me anymore. You show all of your um attention to the baby. And she also opened up about how she doesn't want to swing anymore, and he's like, well, Ship, you ain't giving me attention and you don't want to

do this anymore. I'm not gonna lie to like what he said in the in the therapy session, but he pretty much just feels like he's not having the same sexual relationship with Ashley as when they first started to cover their relationship. What are your views on that? Assante and Tammy, I see Tammy raise your hand, Raise your hand so that we can talk about what y'all thoughts are on Ashley and Michael Darby's relationship. But Assante will

start with you, yeah, why you tallly them up? Um, let me just start with I don't have any favorites. I hate them all equally. I mean, they all really play in the mass, which is why we're here, right. It's just I don't like the playing the mask where we're gonna hide our hand because of respectability politics thing that we're doing. I get that that's where they think that there are they are, but they're really not. So I just I just need that veil dropped now to

get back to Ashley and why I hate her. Um, Michael wanted to hold having a baby over and you wanted to hold that over her head because of the way that her mom was That should have been a huge red flag. Do you want to go half with this white man who really wants to say you know, who wants to emotionally abuse you? And then we're gonna open up this conversation about you know, letting people into the bedroom, right Michael since season one has grabbed as

on camera. Now, unless we're gonna do the red table talk with Will and Jada, if if we'll need to come to and we need everybody to be accountable. Let's go on ahead and say, not only do we open our bedroom, but we open it up to both sexes. So everybody can stop motherfucking asking about the gate ship because Michael, you didn't even talk about. You didn't talk about like Michael, you didn't talk about why you told this woman you had a wife and a boyfriend. We

didn't go back there. Actually are you waiting? Are you waiting to go back there? Because that has not been brought up again and I was wanting more details on that. Just cleared up the fact that you know the fact that there was a nigger in the room, or you know that he did go up with said woman, but did not clear up why he told said woman he got a wife and a boyfriend. So but you are you saying, like, okay, so who's his boyfriend? You know, I don't care if you gotta ask, like you know,

have we have we slept with him before? Or like you know, however, you need to feel comfortable normalizing it. You need to do it because quit pussy footing around and then arguing with black old ass Bill Gates who don't love his damn wife no more. Like on the reunions that should just be so sorry no, so I'm not gonna lie um and I'm about to let me a talk on this um topic as well. But I think that that's my problem. Um. And we've talked about it.

If you guys noticed, not only with Red but Ak who was our guests this week, we've had bisexual men on the show. And I think it may come to where maybe Ashley doesn't want to admit that she is okay with Michael being bisexual. UM. So I think she used the swinging as a way to like, let it just be known that, yeah, we allow other people into

the bedroom. But I think, for whatever reason, they're still shame in women admitting that they're okay with being with a man that may like to play with men um. And that's just I think where she finds not being okay with admitting she would rather just be like y'all were swingers and we let other people in the room. Uh miya um, if you can go ahead and un mute what you got to say about the Darby's syst

so can you hear me? Just fine? Okay? So I it definitely in the beginning, uh didn't like either one of them. I did feel like Ashley was always doing the most, always and everybody's business all that. I do feel like a Sante said, what I think about Michael is like he just kept moving the gold post on Ashley, like and now she has gotten to the goal post finally, like he held the damn baby and then it was you know, now it's you don't, You're not here for me, but her baby is fresh. Alb