EP179: Boyfriend For Hire Feat Sensual Warrior

All right, Well, anyway, look all right, hey guys, welcome to you another motherfucker episode a mother all right, let me let me know I won't to do all that. Welcome to another episode of four Decisions. Guys. I feel like we should have a spiel by now if this is your first time listening, but we don't. But it's a sex podcast. Welcome. This is your girl, Mandy b a k A full core pumps a K A pet say a k A death bit. I'm not as excited,

but my name is Wheezy uh. And today we had our first I can't believe in three and a half to say in our first Oh well, we had a Patreon episode and it went there because we've realized that Nigga might be lying. It was we have it was a little suspect our first meal. Escort, Like, I definitely know he fucked for money. That was his job, but it wasn't even his job. Wasn't like real, like to me when I hear escort like sex could happen, and correct me if I'm wrong, Anthony before we insure you.

But I feel like escort you have to do it all. I feel like you have to be a companion. I have to feel like you have to be well versed enough to be able to go on a fucking trip, a wedding, whatever the funk it is, and if it turns into sex or leads into sex, be skilled in that enough. Don't just show up at my fucking door like and just think like that's like you really want to tell me that, you know? I think, nah, whistles

on it. I mean, there's definitely levels to being like escorting as a whole, but I don't think you've got to know how to be a companion to be an escort. I feel like, if you want to make a decent amount of money, just like a good stripper as a salesman, Okay, well, Anthony, you are here with us today because you are a male escort and I don't I'm sure you're a lot more. But we're not going to talk about your other gig or job or your career because we we wanted to

the dirt. It's in your bio, Like, can you tell us your at introduce yourself to our listeners? Okay, all right, well, first of all, good morning, good afternoon, and good evening. Do you everyone? Depended on where you are in the world, my name is Anthony and Santi, I am a professional boy friends oh, male escort catering to women only. Well, damn you. S took a whole bunch of questions out that we had, alright, episodes over gays, that's you. Everybody

had questions. I went on live last night and I asked on Twitter. Everybody was like, does he have sex with men and women? Does he have sex with men and women? Are most did you mention that because most male escorts are fluid? Did you do you find that to be true? Uh? Most guys that say that they are male escorts whenever I don't hear the words straight or if it is ambiguous. Nine point nine percent of the time, they deal with men and women, but usually

most of them deal with men mostly. Well, I think the macause men pay for sex more than women. Well, not only that, it's also that women's sexuality and my humble opinion and experience is slightly different than men's. And uh um, the money is more with the male client more so than it is with a female. Depending on your your clients, I've had clients that were very very very very rich. I've had something that were poor. How do you have poor clients? Well, some save up for

a special occasion. Now you got to be real. You gotta be real. I'm like, damn, this is gonna overdrive or not? Do you take PayPal square a cat's preferred you? Do you have like a layaweight system? Like? Do they like like? Can they lay? Like? Yo? Didny? I'm gonna get that ship. Shoot. Well, let me let me start by dispelling some um misconceptions. When people think about a straight mail escort catering only two women, they generally think a woman paying a man for sex. Um, And sometimes

that happens. But what I think is really going on deep below the surface, is that a woman wants to lost.

Where are you going? I just want to say why while you're cutting off, Siri, Um, where you're going with this was not where I thought, but my mind, you you know, I was literally well, I was literally about to be like when a woman pays for a man typically, I thought you were gonna say that man got a big old dude, because that's the only like I think that I would assume a male escort or any man that is charging women for sex just got a whole

baby leg. And most women feel like baby legs ain't found out here in the in the in the wild very often. Like two years ago when I was talking about how I watched gigglos and I wanted to pay for yes, but I was like, oh, I wanted to spend the night, I want to go to dinner, and real quick to before because you just said that. And while you're dispelling miss, is there a difference between the term jiggolo and what you do? Or is it is

jiggolo kind of intertwining with male escort? Uh? For me, there really is not a different, But I know for some they make a distinction. And what's the distinction, like that you've heard of one is that it is a way of life um, But for me, there is no distinction, because catering to women is as a professional boyfriend is a way of life. For me, it is a discipline.

I get up in the morning, I do I have certain rituals, I do certain things, UM, and I have certain exercises, I have certain I have a certain diet I have. When I get ready to go on an adventure with a woman, then there are certain things I do to prepare. So there are certain things that I don't do so that I can come with the correct

energy and the look my mind is going. So where else I thought to come had to be a certain taste, even like the zion for the come, like what you're really talking about maybe an adventure Well before we because I do like want to get into your dudes and your don't how you pick your clients, And we're gonna get more into that, um for the horrible decision, because everything that you're saying is going to be the meat

and potatoes of this episode. So if you guys have not picked up yet, we have a whole male escort and we're gonna deep dive into you know how how you kind of how your operation works. But before we do that, we're gonna go ahead and throw us into al vanilla sheet. Now, you guys may have heard us talk about a doll brothel before, but this one is in Las Vegas, which I want to bring up because it's one of the only cities that are semi open.

I was about to say, I think I think the one that we talked about last time was in Europe or Germany or something. No, they we're trying to open one in Texas, but there's one in Canada. Okay, but definitely they have them in Europe. But like they're getting closer and closer. Now here's the interesting part. So UM, a fluid gender social lifestyle club that rents space to a sex doll operation, is in Clark County and they're in federal court because they're trying to retain their business license.

So the studio places basically operating as a fluid lifestyle learning center and they are an educational institution and have been since two thousand sixteen. However, there's allegations that the property is being used as an illegal sex club and sex to all brothel, and they are suing back because they're basically saying that they don't want their business license provoked because they have not encouraged those things. So, you

know what this reminds me of. We were at the bank trying to open up our business account and fucking our logo was at the top of course that said horrible decisions. Don't know why no, no, no, I know. So our business title just let you guys know, does not It's just an acronym. There's no horrible decisions thing

in there. But Alex needed to send us at this well, at this time, we were at the bank and we needed an actual letterhead for our business to open up the accout the fucker sent us a big as horrible decision at the top of the letter hand It's like,

is this good? And I'm like, nigked, I just sent you the LC name and and so he put that on there, and literally we're at the bank and we just get started, like we all these questions, well, do you guys do anything involving sex, because if it's a sex based operation, we can't really open your business account here. And they just started asking all these questions about sex.

It also reminds me when people like when I was out with when this podcast early you know started off early, Um, I was kind of ashamed, especially working in corporate How to explain what my podcasts about. So instead of saying, you know, we do stigmatize Kase, I would. So it's a podcast about women empowerment and sexual liberation and so that's what this reminds me of sexual health. Okay, the way Anthony have us remind us to come back and ask you about our bank account stuff and how that

works in your business. Um. So the sex Dolls experience, Okay, basically this is what they do. You get to go in a private room to learn about these dolls. It's an hourly rate. It's undisclosed according to their website. However, the rooms have beds, couches, TVs, at least one stripper ful, and bondage equipment. Um. Now, the judge did not deny that the social venue um social sex. But she did say the judge, if people have sex, they're doing it

in private rooms. Um. And there's nobody else involved because it's a doll. So that's why they're having such a hard time figuring out what this place is because it's not technically a brothel because there's no one having sex. On the other I don't even gonna hold you, especially right now with everything with COVID, I would find some type of COVID law. There's no way you're going to sanitize everything to make this not be sanitizabal What sanitiza and that is the word. I feel like, you know

what this made me think of? In New York. I believe one of them I used to live by it. I think it was on a forties something, the eighth one of the left few private viewing rooms for porn totally illegal because someone's alone and you don't know what they're doing when they're looking at that DVD. It's the same ship not the only thing I will say that ain't shit about these people? How is the educational center?

Because you're learning about your body? Like just like, no, just like And y'all know, I don't really do science, but the anatomy is a part of science. And when you're learning as a doctor, they laid like little little dolls on the table for you to learn the anatomy of a human being. Oh, this is hell. Do you learn in the parts of a body? Ben with the doll? You gotta make it. Give me my law degreement. Mandy Cochran, I love to having listen I thought it was good,

So now I did think that was good. To moving on, we're gonna get to the Horror derv Our. Horror derv segment is basically where we get you give you a sex tip every week, and we have one from a listener. I love this one, and Anthony, we would love a sex tip from you as well, So you can while we read this tip sex tip from one of our listeners, if you could think of one to give our audience,

just so you know too. It could be a sex tip that you have men to please women, or it could be a sex tip to give women to please men. So just think of one in your head while we read this. All right, Hey, Mandy and Wheezy. I know I probably sound like every other email, but I absolutely love you, I think and my husband and I get caught up all the episodes together thanks to this podcast. We explore things he would he would have never even

thought about. She put in parentheses. He's Jamaican. We heard you this, but anyway, I have a sex tip that will drive him crazy. If you're a man likes you to eat the groceries. For those of you don't know, that is the ass the bulla hole. When he's on his back, position the tip of your nose on his balls and move your face around so the balls and booty hole all caps and it says mandy voice are stimulated at the same time while also jerking him off.

This can also be modified while licking the gooch. If you're scared to go lower as well, try this and your man will thank you the nose, she says. Um So, the thing about that is, um it not only smelling it, but like, so I've done it before, like not necessarily on purpose, but when you're down there licking the booda hole, you do make it. You still use saliva and spit, and now it gets wet down there in the booty hole. You already gott like move the cheeks out the way.

So my thing is, I don't want to drown. And to me, I don't like feeling like all that spit and all of because now it's boota juice and spit. I don't like that it's all in my nose. I feel like i'ma blow a little Buddha juice bubbles out of my nose. I don't like that I ain't even gonna hold you. Yeah, but even if you lean it while your tongue is there licking the buoda hole. Now you got the spit in the boota juices going up your nostrils? Was this a hord? Duncan I feel? I

feel like, do you get he laughing? I just feel like that's that's she's about to kill it, and I feel like it was aint expert. You know, I'll be down there in the boot hole and I've done that, Like, I don't like all that spit getting up in my holes. Bro, So that cute if it works for her, I'm gonna tell you now, but where you may drown? Okay. So so we're gonna come to Anthony now. I'm sorry, you know. And that's the type of tip we would love to

hear from here. Since you out here, says you out here getting paid and ship, can you go ahead and let us know if your tip is for men or for women? And what your sex tip is? Um, Actually it's for men and it is more so think about seduction. Sexual subduction more like a um more like a dance okay, not a lot. So this will be hard for a white man. You need rhythm, okay, so sorry, So seduction, what tips do you have for men to seduce. That's what I was saying. We make of seduction more like

a dance than a battle. Okay, what if they can't dance, Anthony, Well, you can still think of it that way. It's it's a give and take. It is having fun. It is um wanting to discover so much about the person that you're with versus I gotta get this in terms of like seduction is not being physical. You mean, that's how

I take it. I mean, when you think about like the book The Artist Deduction, one of the most popular books for sex, right, people always talk about how it starts before you get to the bedroom, And I think that's mainly the issue that men always have with sex is that like sometimes we don't even really see uh side to them until we get to the bedroom. Like

I think flirtation can go beyond just touching me. Like certain things that you're saying, you know, I contact as a Anthony, I ain't gonna hold you, you'll tip just sounded like a horoscope. I ain't stand ship, like I didn't get shipped out of it, Like I need to know a tip, Like are we dancing actually in the living room if we're not really dancing because we're bringing up rhythm. Like, what is something that you do in seduction? Is it how you look into her eyes? Is it?

Do you hold her hand and rub it smoothly? You know what I mean? Like? How do you seduce? You get what I mean? Well? Uh, with women, what you have to do is deal with her mind and thinking about you in a sexual way. I always say that if a woman is not trying to rip your clothes off in private, then you've done something wrong. Okay, So

I like that. We just said that last we were Yeah, we just had that guy who was saying how even when he knows a woman us to have sex with him, he's not necessarily pressed right away, Like he mentioned that, you know, he likes to wait it out. And I liked that because I think that more often than not, like we normally, it's the instant gratification, like let's just get it over with, let's suck whatever, even a nightcap

for instance. Mandy and I debate about this all the time, but I've always liked kind of spending time alone before the first time we have sex, which is a lot of people's first time. Right you go upstairs, you go to their apartment, they come to yours whatever, and then you fuck. I like that like lingering feeling. I feel like that's going to give me the rip the clothes off moment. If we don't kiss and touch and flirt

before that, I'm not as ship. I went hiking and just had adults compoleo on a coffee and a bitch. I was ready to fuck. So I don't know about you, but he the average woman ain't always ready well ship all the sick with someone. I was compoo bitch and I saw him every day. So uh, Anthony's tip is a dance, Mandy's a chicken and all right for the for the horrible decision in today we go, Yeah, we get it to the meeting. But t is now it is a male escorting one on one. So we're gonna

start with the first question. You wrote in your bio that you were in the military before. I think we've only had one of the person was being nasty right yeah? Maybe? Yeah? And UM, I'm curious to know so that was your job? How did you get started escorting? How many years have you been doing this? Um? Nine years? I started in two thousand and how did it happen? The crisis. Well, no, I was in I think it was right around that.

I was in law school, okay, and I was at a law library in d C. And uh I saw this woman, uh that looked quite attractive. She was they're doing some research. She was a partner at a law firm. And uh, we struck up a conversation and it went quite well. She asked me out for dinner. Um, we connected, and I thought that she was going to ask me over for the night, but she asked me to instead. She gave me an indecent proposal. She asked me to bring some pleasure and some joy and some excitement to

her life. Now you have to understand her mindset and mindset of many clients, at least of mine. Um, she was very successful in her profession. She was at the top of her game. Very little time for bs, very little time for boyfriend, very little time to date. H Plus UM, a lot of men because she was very beautiful and very successful, a lot of men felt intimidated. So she and get approached a lot either and uh, so she decided to asked me to fill in as a boyfriend for her at her beck in call. Did

she make it sound like that at the time. Uh no, but uh, because it doesn't sound like it's when you wanted. It sounds like I need you to do this for me. No, no, no, she knew that. Uh my time was limited. Also, she would act, are you available such a date at such a time? Now, Um, we did that. We connected. We had lots of good times in and out of the bedroom. Um. And she introduced me to some of her friends that were in the same boat. Um, were you getting paid

at the time? Yeah, she was. She was happing me out. Okay, So I didn't know if it happened when she went to her friend. So when it first started, how what was payment like? Because I'm curious to know because I feel like when I start hearing stories from escorts, but whether they be male or female. I've ever listened to a show or whatever. It starts like a sugar Mama type of thing. Was it for you immediate cash? Was it gifts? How did that start? And how do you

know how to go about it? There was cash? There was some gifts. Also. Can I ask you a question? And this is this is because and this is just me finding it. I'm at a library. I get it. Can I ask you what color she is? Oh she was black? Oh she was black. Well, okay, gott to be I'm not gonna lie. I thought I was a white woman wanting a black man. I'm not gonna lie. That was one of the questions I had for you.

So I, oh, let me, let me, let me finish this, and I certainly, I'll certainly get to your question now. When she started introducing me to her friends, UM, I figured, if I'm going to do this, then I'm going to do it right. I researched the business of providing companionship to women. I got a male escort mentor and I got a mail excort coach. I paid these guys to show me the ropes. Both of them had books, both of them had been in the business for these ten years.

They taught me the ends and out, what to do with women, what not to do with women, how to present myself, how to do all those things over and above just right. M hmm um. And that's the other thing. There's more to this than fucking. There's a hell of a lot more to it. I have clients that I've never even seen before. We just talked on the phone. Women are paying for that. Yeah, only bit just yeah, but I just feel like there's it's always odds to

me and we've had this conversation before. To me, there is an abundance of dick niggas just be ready to give. It's not just dick that's it. But you like, men without a job can talk to you like there's like if you're saying you don't have a lot of time, I feel like there are. I felt like it it took you a long time to meet a decent dude. Well also because I was hung up on sucking the

same person for the last seven years. But even when I got into being in school and working my job, I felt like he served that purpose and he's still paid for my ubers to come see him, Like I didn't feel like I see everyone has that access as you do. And I think that's the other thing that we have to take our heads out of. Like, and I always say this to you too, like when you're like, I can't get how people just can't go they can't You were absentent, you said nobody was worth it. Fucking

You've been through that moment. Granted it was Corona. When it wasn't right, we'd go out. We do certain things. We mingle. We have a different life than a lot of people. And if you're that woman or that person or that man, much like a man who pays for pussy. Right, let's just say that maybe you're too awkward to go out. Maybe like you, you're not as confident enough. I think this is the easiest thing to like. I see, I

can't believe you can't get it. I mean, we can't get a lot of things, Like we don't agree on a lot of things. That's just one thing. I genuinely I don't understand aother woman just because I know how how open I mean, just how easy it is to get a man, I guess. But my question, that's that's really not the issue. Most of my clients, uh can get men. They just want certain types of men, and

they want it in a certain way. Okay, So and there I have I have clients who if they can't pay a man for their companionship, they don't want them. They don't want him. Do you notice that that is a certain type of job from that woman? Like that sounds to me like I feel like it may be it may be that, but more than often, uh more often than not, they want someone that is going to be there for them and not going to burden them down with their own crap going on in their own heads.

I guess I don't have to tell you that some men have big, big drama, and they bring all that baggage with them too a relationship with a woman. Some women don't have time for their crap. Women who are very successful have a lot going on. They don't have time for that. Do you find that. I feel like when we've watched glorified male escorts on TV or something like that, we assume they're younger. But when I was watching Gigglos on Showtime, like there was men were in

their forties. They weren't necessarily this like model looking Abracambie, like twenty year old kid. And I'm curious to know if you feel like your experience or age, or whatever kind of level you have in life has been more of an asset to you. Um. Yes, I'm no spring chicken. I am in my forties. Um, but what I bring to my adventures with clients is that I am I have life experiences. I was a husband, I'm a father, I'm a son to my parents. Um, I've been in

business before. I have all these things, these life experiences that I can bring to the table and discuss with women.

And that's one interesting thing. Yeah, all of my clients, I'll say it that the conversations that we have is just as important is to them is anything else that we do with With the question that we had earlier, I know Mandy and I both were like white women, right, I'm curious to know your first experience was with a black woman with your time as a male escort, when you've had white female clients, why not you only sleep

with women? But have you encountered some like I want to try my first black I want to be with a black guy, and like, has that been some of the experiences that, Yeah, can you tell us about that. I have had some clients that fetishized black males. I personally don't have an issue with it. So do you? Because we had a few questions for some femdoms that we've had that were black women that know they're being fetishized, but it's most like I'm getting paid for it, so

let me run through them. Do you feel like that? Do you feel like it's easier because you're getting paid for it. It's just a service. How do you check out of that. UM, I don't police what's in a woman's say it? It's my My role is to be there for uh, warmth, tenderness, to make her feel whole and connected. Whatever it took for her to reach out to me, uh is her concern. It's her. Um, it's hers. I don't have to navigate art to police that. Can I ask you where your clients find you, like I'm

familiar with of course, like seeking arrangement? What's your place in the dating sites or in eros? Like I have a lot of friends on eros. If a man wanted to be I guess on a website or find clients? How do you go about doing that? Isn't an agency? Is a website that you're on? Like? How do your clients find you? Um? My clients, most of my clients needs that these days off from referrals from other clients. Having said that, uh, some clients find me on my website,

some on the other social media outlets. Have you ever this is random? And I just thought about that when you were saying you don't police what's going on in your mind? Have you ever had to cut a client off for either how they were treating you or because maybe they were falling in love, Like, can you tell us about someone you better cut off over the years, because I'm assuming not everything is worth the money. No it isn't. But having said that, I've never had to

cut off? What's been your longest client? How many years? Um? Six years? Have you ever had someone say like, okay, like I know you're into me too, Like I don't want to pay you anymore? Has that ever happened? Wouldn't you feel like a man would start doing it? What I feel I could see a man saying men do

do that? Um. Some of my female escort friends, UM talk about it all the time if you're enjoying the sex, that they're attractive and they're assuming, like, well, yeah, I feel like it's like I just feel like it's a little different, especially because I mean I've been on the receiving end of it where I've been a companion to someone who was married and I benefited off of it

through payment and gifts and those sort of things. UM. And I think that there does become a time where men, because of their ego, don't want to feel like you're only around them because they're doing something for you, Like eventually, especially if you're giving even to these women that companionship to where now they feel needed, they feel wanted, they feel like you're interested in them. I think that it's a little mind funk after a while, like damn, we

really vibe in. But is this all act? Does this woman really enjoy me? And so I think that there has been lines where yeah, a man will be like, dang, I gotta pay you this time too. This is the arrangement we got into. Yes, you have to pay me. And as soon as like the dynamics, ships changed, or I feel like they want more like a relationship. This we didn't start off as wanting a relationship. And I think that the women, I guess and differently, they're very

upfront with what they want from you. And I think with men, most men though, yeah, and most men, I think after a while, especially if they're paying for companionship, they want to feel actually wanted and not used. Men hate feeling like tricks, and I think it does give a woman power to feel like to use to use it in a difference, you know what I mean to see that it's a little different. How has um Corona impacted your work? Um it has, I'm sure for a lot of sex workers. It has for sure. Yeah, but

it's actually starting to pick up. We see in Atlanta to stay out the talking in pools. What, um, what's the weirdest thing someone's asked you for that you had to say no to? What is it the weirdest thing to? And interesting enough, women don't act for these things. You know what's crazy? Believe if I'm paying somebody, oh you know, I but here, here's here's the issue, and I want

to make sure I I really bring this home. It is really less about the sex than the boyfriend experience, more about uh, someone that helps you to feel whole connected, a lot um attended to those sorts of things. Now, that's now. The reason that most guys can't do it, and especially a husband or a boyfriend, is because life is hectic. Life. We have so much going on. We have a job that is usually eight hours. We spent an hour trying to get ready to get to the

job or preparing together there, an hour coming back. It's already ten hours in the day for seven or eight Yeah, tired, you know after all that, after that, that's good, seventeen eighteen hours, you're you're you're selling me on this. But now that I thought about husband, has a husband ever found out about you? Uh? I do not know for sure he got the same. I've had clients that cut me. They never called you, like no man's ever called you

and say who is this? Uh No, But I had clients that saw them disappeared disappeared however way they I will say this that most of the time, UM, couples are close to of my clientele, and UM, most of the time it is the husband are the boyfriends? Couples are your clientele? Stop let me stop you there. Couples are your clientele, your professional boyfriend though our men hiring them for you for their wives? Is it a cup holding situation? No? Okay, okay, the husbands are engaging me

for their wives. Now. Um. When that happens, usually they are the ones that initially contact me and work out all of the details. Do they ever? Has one ever asked you to like, met her at this bar, don't let her know about paying you. That's interesting that so the husbands do this for you. Okay, wait, wait, this is really interesting to me because the wife aint never solicted to me. I'll be honest, Well, what kind of

maybe not? I'm sure that. Do you find that it's because they don't have the time to dedicate or they feel like they're not pleasing their partners sexually. No, it could be. It could be that. But most of the time, what I find is that, uh, the husband and wife have been together for some time and they felt that it is time to open up their relationship, and they want to do it in such a way that I am not going to be interfering in their relationship, that

I Am not going to uh harm her in any way. Um, he wants someone that is professional, karen, loving, kind and all those things and and well like a queen, although you won't get interfering right into their relationship. Nine years six years is a long time for someone. Have you ever fallen for a client and how do you protect

yourself from doing that? A lot of our listeners I've considered getting into sex work things like that, or even if they're just kind of I think the normal way that we see it today is girls with d M guys, whether the rappers or athletes or whatever, and because they're attractive and maybe somebody you would be with for free, they don't know how to differentiate that. Have you ever fallen for someone and can you tell us like how

that worked out. It's very difficult to answer that question because I tell me what fault that means to you? To me, falling for someone means you can't separate it as work anymore. No say that, I agree. I mean I think that it's been even with me, like I I from my Nigerian that I had. I played every role that he wanted me to be, and I've really cared for him as a person, but when he stopped being able to pay me, it was pretty easy to walk away. And I think that that's a lot of

the relationships that you get into. But I think it has more so to do with knowing what it is up front, and like I've said, even with dealing with married men, because there's nothing in my mind or mentally, I know there's a blockage for what we can eventually be in the future because it to me, I don't think that I could ever marry this man. There's already a mental blockage as to well, I know what this

is already and you keep it there. And I mean, when you're in this industry, especially with a lot of women like you may still care for the person but you know, at the end of the day, this is a role I mean, and that's truly what meant by falling for right, because I'm sure, like I'm sure you care. Right, It's hard for how can you be like a total robot? But that is what I meant though, Like, have you ever got to the point where like, fucking I don't care?

I care for all my clients. Yeah, we have a report, we have mutual care and concern for one another, but we know that it is a a a relationship that is too, that is of two points. It is a personal relationship and it is a business relationship. How do you for for a lot of questions we had, like people were asking about safety and I read the drin we were in the military, but still like safety, what precautions could a man take that is going to do this? A lot of men are worry they would get robbed

or something like that, like is it vetting? Is it your place versus there's what a safety look like for a meal escort. Because we always are worried about women, but we never really consider truly that safety of men. It's going to be different for each guy. Um, I would say that if you're going into this line of work with fears about what if? Guess what is that You're not right for this position? That makes sense. You have to go with your authentic not being afraid of

anything or anyone. But how do you prepare though? Because I get I get you not living in fear, but there still has to be safety precautions that I would have seen me take like my friends. Like my friend she worked on eros, her safety precaution was asking for an I D. And running it through a background check to make yeah, to make sure that this person is exactly who they say they are. And I mean I've had also girls who hired security guards who would be

outside the door. See I think I first meant is the coal harm? But I am curious now talking about vetting because I know a lot of those sites are gone because he's has to how does your vetting process work? If it's not word of mouth, Well, they're going to contact me and say, um, Sharon, Karen, whatever you know told me about you? Um, do you have any time? So it's always word of mouth for you. I was gonna say, what so say someone hits you on your

Twitter or your Instagram. You're very upfront with what you do and what services you offer this companionship. So say it's not a referral. Say someone slides in your d M s and it's like I heard you on horrible decisions? Um, do you're everything that I'm looking for? How do you know that this person, say, isn't a cop? How do you know this person is really serious and willing to pay your rates? Like, how do you vet that person to know whether you want to move forward with them

or not? Sure? That's a good question. Uh, there are a number of things that I will have them do and uh, for instance, um, you have to pay a deposit to see me smart. If they don't fail deposit, I know they're not serious. If they just got a text today saying are you available now? You cannot go to my website. You can't find any add that I've posted anywhere on this planet that doesn't say no text please.

I will not respond to it. I know that that person is not serious or either is oblivious to everything. Either way, he or she will not make a good client. You sound like a hairstylist then, because the real quick because when you need a book to get your hair done, they'd be like, no deal, no text book through the Lincoln Bio do style see you literally just sounded like a hairstyle. I ain't really met the same because when people don't time, don't waste my time. And you can

pick up on that too. Like a person who isn't reading or can't even follow instructions, you know they probably not even serious. How is that procedures in process? Now? If you want, if you like the fact that I am a professional, respect that I have procedures and processes and that you need to um go through them all. So you're speaking is though what you do as a business, and it is? But how is it legal that? But

we know none of this is legal? Well, I disagree because not to me, how I would answer that question if I was an escort. Is someone's paying me for my companionship and if I decide to have sex with them as my choice? That won't work in the court of law, will it not? That's what I'm asking you in your experience. Well, I'm not a lawyer. I only played more but uh, any a prosecutor can make a case for a difficure in things now. I have had a client where we just laid in the bed and

watch television. She paid me for my time. No prosecutor is going to A prosecutor could probably you know, uh file charges, but it's not going to fly. No one's going to convicted that. It was just it was just companionship. Now there is also if you contract directly for sex, then that is I'm a face um um illegal on

its face illegal. However, suppose you contract to uh for me to cook your dinner at your place and uh and that was it hold home and things got a little hot and heavy, right and it uh escalated to the bedroom. Is that against the law You got contracted to cook, So I guess it's yet. How so if they go through the ways of how it goes. But that's why even um John or like undercovers were mostly make sure they let it know that I'm here for sex.

And that's why they also cannot arrest the girl or or the sex worker until they accept the payment, knowing that sex has agreed upon. I just watched that with you on Hollywood on Netflix. Yeah, that's yeah. She was like, oh, please just say He's like, why, I don't deal with it. She's like, please please take this tip. Yeah, and when he took it, that's when she he was arrested. Do you want to get into the whole confession or how many do you have a question? I just do want

to ask really quickly. Um, if you date people in your private life, m uh, I do not really. So in nine years you have and had a girlfriend. No, I was married. Oh you were married before you started. No, I was married when I started. Now let me ship I love and this is the whole confession. Tell us about that because you said was so? Was she like, I can't do this anymore? Um? We had we were having problems, um, and we separated and uh then the

crisis came while we were separated. I decided to do this and uh then she contacts me and says that, um, she wants to work it out and try again. And UM I looked at it and thought, okay, well this is the time to let her know. This is what I'm doing. I'm providing companionship to him. Is that an issue for you? What was she saying? Now? She said it wasn't an issue for her. So you guys decided to reconcile the marriage and she allowed you to keep

doing this. Was there any rules or guidelines that she gave you, like as far as protection or no, she did she want to know about it? Did she ask you about your encounters or your other or your clients? Wow, she didn't even want to talk about it. Well, we talked about it. If she asked me some questions or if I had to go see a client out let him. No, I'm going to see a client. I feel like mom and came home. I like, what was she like? What was she saying? What did you do that? Because you're

so it's so curious. Did you find that maybe it would be it would be easier not to discuss it, Like I can only imagine for a sex worker that is dating someone and wants to open up, or maybe even someone who's listening that has a new found relationship, like figuring out that boundary I guess between each other for communication. I'm actually curious. You said you were married and she was okay with it when you brought it to her, But is that the reason you're no longer married?

Did it become to where she actually did end up having an issue with it later? I think it was partly uh involved. What I think was primarily happening in the final breakup was that some of the old issues that led to the original breakup, and of course my being a professional boyfriend for women did not help the matter, so all that came to bear. Do you feel like you do better at your job being single? What do you mean? Do you think that it's easier to do

this job? Maybe you have less in your mind, maybe you just have more energy to give. Do you feel it it's easier to do this job single versus being married? Um? No, No, And the reason why is that, UM, being in this work has actually help me to be a better husband or boyfriend and have better relationships with women, even even female friends. Are are my mother's and my sisters because my energy now is so respectful, loving, caring, being empathetic and know how to um navigate. And that's my last

question before we get out of here. Um, you mentioned your sisters, your mother, So a lot of women find shame in opening up about being sex workers to their family. Is that something that your family knows of as a part of your life? Do you keep your k do you keep that away from your family? Knowing well, my family and my closest friends know, uh, my mother And it's very interesting story I like to tell the story. When I told her what I told I was a

male escort. Her first question was for women or men? Gay? Now that's that's I mean, I think that that That was honestly, one of the most asked questions when we said you were coming on was what does he escort? For men? And women? Like? That was a common question. Do They seemed to have a concern with that, like do women ask you that? Do you do men to like? Oh? Yeah, See here's the thing, Um, my clients are very driven, very successful, very accomplished women, and they want men who

can interact with them in a particular way. Now because they're dry, and that's what I think they have to take on masculine because we are so you are here playing Stetman. Huh, what's what's Steedman is who Oprah got and we all know that he's around, Like, well, when I if I would say that Stedman is poised, he's attractive. Yeah, he's not someone that seems like he can't get a woman.

He doesn't seem like a user, because you know he could. However, she's rich, she's she's like, you are my boyfriend, need you do anything else? Just focus on me because I'm sucking rich and she has that much power, and then of course our friend is game. But the Steadman thing is always interesting because I have heard people talk about Steedman in that way. I'm like, oh, like he just

gets to sit around or whatever. But I'll be honest, when you look at a man like that with his age, that looks the way he does, and he seems to treat her very well in public, I don't see why you would think he wouldn't have somebody. But it wouldn't make sense because I'm sure you may be solicited to go to company dinners, company functions, and I mean I remember when I was an accountant that was my thing, dealing with certain guys. I was like, oh, now I

need someone to look the part for me. So I understand if these women don't have the time to go out and date and find partners, that you can't fulfill that role but also be in a room to where you blend in with their collegue. What percentage of clients do you think you sleep with? Probably about that's honest, And just my last one. Okay, what boundaries do you have?

If any? Is there something you don't allow or are rules that you give clients, I guess disrespect, and I want to talk about that for four minutes because I've heard the term thrown around here for a minute and I'd be um, I'd don't use those terms, uh, these ages and the N word. I know that humans are much deeper. We are a forced in the universe to be reckoned with other beings, admire us other beings. Um

if we h concerning the N word. I have done some study about people of African descent, and that word is just incorrect on so many levels. Politically, you don't. Politically it's incorrect because you don't let someone who has been an enemy to you define who you are. You don't take on those terms. Geographically, when we look around the world and we see black people, the vast majority of us come from Africa. You got some from uh,

the the Australia. You've got blacks in Papua New Guinea, you got blacks in the Peloponnation Islands, Oceania, so on and so forth. But most of them have connections with Africa. They just say that they migrated from Africa fifty to a hundred thousand years ago. Are some folks even say Africa came from them. So and we have certain ways, certain um characteristics, we do things in a certain way.

History tells us that the vast majority of us in the United States, in the Caribbean and South America come from this place that we now know as Africa, and that we are if you listen to Dr Us have been y'all, and and who actually lived here from lived here for many years in New York, And if you listen to Dr John Henry Clark, we were the pyramid builders.

Just because our political, social, and economic situation is on the bottom now in the world doesn't mean that we were always there and our great civilizations we were known as the most generous, the most loving, the most kindness, and the smartest folks on the planet. So I go through life knowing that I am much greater, that we are all much greater than what somebody tells us we are, and that some people say we are. In the popular media visa the hip hop, it has contaminated us and

contaminated our minds. Man, we are in cannons class. I was like, well, y'all, that is something for y'all to think on and ponder. Um we I mean, I've gone into meetings, asking what my incount, what my in word count was. So I appreciate you having that outlook on it, But anyone who listens to this show, I mean I embraced it the same way we race the word or the same way we embrace the word slut, bitch. I mean it's something I called my homegirls. That's kind of

just like it is. It's a way of life and how we talk um. But would you hire me if I called you a b an h? I mean it depends if you say beach. I mean, it all depends on how you think it's the same. I can tell you this, my clients would not. But I also don't expect that if a woman I don't know where a man I don't know what to call me that. But I also think the other difference from it is much like the N word. If it's used between two black people,

there's a different meaning. But I mean between a black person saying it to another black person in camaraderie than a white person saying it to me, much like no one's calling you a bit. But I've had that words weaponized and used against me, much like horror. Right, So so if I use it in a way that's a sisterhood for us and be like, Okay, bitch, I'll look at your hole and I mean I think it's the way you you receive it. I do. Um, guys, we

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this bonus clip. This has been yet another episode of Horror Decisions. Um I had, then I U D and next one on Oh you have both Okay. What was your experience positive or negative with both? Negative? With both? Okay? So the I U D at first seemed really great and then I started having problems with BB okay, and it was a slight It wasn't a strong it was just it was continuous medication would not make it go away. It just seemed like a very like low case of it.

So I I'm typically more of a naturally um Morris person, and I think that contributed to it. So but after I removed it, it cleared up. I never had a problem again. Oh wow, okay, and what about what the next one? None Um? The next one on is what I've had currently since March two thou nineteen, and I've had problems with a regular bleeding, heavy bleeding, cramping um. And when I say heavy bleeding, I'm talking about two to three weeks at a time, offer a couple of weeks,

and then another two or three weeks. So it's been really difficult for me. With the next one, non Um, it's so crazy because you saying so we talked about the excessive bleeding. Now you're bringing up the b V which causes an an odor down there. And essentially these are both things that will keep us from having sex, and if we wanted to not have sex, we would

just be absinent. Like ship. We're literally trying to get on birth control to have kind of a more control of our sex life and not getting pregnant, and yet here it is all a lot of these options make it to where now we don't even want to have sex because now we're bleeding. Now we have an odor, Now we have yeast infects, which you know cause pain and and it's just really crazy. Jane Um. Thank you

Krishell for sharing that. Janey, what is your experience with either UM the next one on or or the the I E d UM. I've been on Marina uh going in September two years. I first had it implanted, and then somehow some way it got dislodged and moved. And because I continued to bleed heavily throughout the whole time it was initially inserted, it moved. I don't know you had a big old dick. I have. It depends, but I'm married to a woman, but I have other partners. Okay,

all right, well then can I ass that's my shirt? Polly, Polly, I seek? Can I ask you then as Um, a woman with a wife and in that relationship, why you chose to get some things so long term? Um? Is it because you're Polly? Well? Kind of? It was my period um I was starting as I got older, I'm forty three. Um, I started to have longer periods that were my creamps were becoming more painful. So I it was suggested by my O B. G. Ryan to first

start taking the pill I had. I started the pill and bled for like forty plus t so got off of that one to a Justin and then she recommended the marina and we'll try that out. So that seems to work and that one? Did you get the one for I think there's an option, asked me, correct me if I'm wrong, um, bow as well, there's one that's good for five years, the one that's good for ten years, that marina. You have the five year one, okay, and

there others what are the three others? So there's a five year, a ten year, and what are the other ones? So the ten years just a copper letter. Oh that's just the copper one, okay, five years? Yeah, and and they're the three years soriah um, I imedted you what is your experience so UM after a mishap after stopping the pills because I started with the pills fairly late in my life. UM, and then I end up getting

pregnant with my new partner who I'm currently with now. UM, and I had a medically suggested or medically advised abortion. So I had the I d the Merina for three years, UM, got off of it about a year and a half ago, and I'm actually having trouble conceiving so UM. I also do struggle for PCOS, so that's also a complication. UM. The birth control was supposed to regulate my period, which it did, but it like made it like almost kind

of like incognito. It kind of disappeared. UM. And so now we're trying to get myself my body back into this normal ovulation flow.