Ep162: Can I Pet That Dog? Feat a Couple Pups

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let's get on with the show. Hey everybody, welcome back. I ate food already. I just want you guys to know I ate and I know what a mute button is now so welcome back. No smacking, no no playing with pots and pans, None of that will be on this week's episode. So I hope you guys enjoyed the A S M R last week. UM, we won't be doing that again. Um, but hey, guys, welcome to you

another episode of Horrible Decisions. This your girl Mandy b a k A full Court Pumps a K A pet a k A debt bitch, and I am Wheezy a k A mrs. Can I pet that dog? That is the name of this week's episode because it's my favorite fucking video online. And when Vincent wrote in, I was like, oh my god, I could say the whole episode. We have three guests with us today, one one dumb guest, I will say, just because you're in the middle and you've got the mic, so we'll use your mouth the most.

Can you always introduce yourselves? Yeah, So I'm Vincent um Pop, and I'm Dan and we're we're dating. Yes, And yeah, Cody, I'm the friend. I don't participate in this ship. We're the affirmative. He's the negative. So wait, Dan, I heard a little something there. Where are y'all from? Well, I'm not from Oklahoma, uh more Ohio regions, so I've got the Midwestern thing going on for me. But you guys

are located in Oklahoma. Yeah, we're all in Norman, Oklahoma. Now, I just want to tell y'all night to day Beyonce fan. I don't know if they live there, but this is our first Caucasian Midwestern episode. Let's clap it up for that Caucasian. I'm I'm hearing Oklahoma and I went straight to Tiger King, So I don't know which one. Yes, God, I just finished that. Y'all have your teeth bow come on? Yeah, right,

we haven't taken in the math yet. That's next week. Well, uh, speaking of Oklahoma, I um, I really loved, you know, Tiger Kings for highlighting gays in the Midwest or whatever you wanna call Oklahoma. Yeah, Like, I mean, I feel like, you know, that ship is always so foreboding, you know what I'm saying, Like Godford, no for sure, Bible Belt, you know. Yeah, and you guys are barking like a dog literally. So I want to start this episode off

just by preliminary asking. So how you identify age? And uh yeah, you're pronouns Um, he him his for me. Uh gay and yeah, gay as fuck, gay as fuck? Yeah, no, for sure, no pussy at all. Dan. Have you ever dabbled in in the in the in the Tiger Kitty, in the kitties? No, okay, it's well yes, in the past, I have dabbled around, but no today it we are gay all the way about today. So yesterday, yesterday, in like years ago, okay, got you? And look I want to say brown, sure, but no, Um, what about your

your friend the third that doesn't play with y'all? What about you? Um? I mainly identify a straight. I've kind of played in the water, so I'm not really scared of it. It's just kind of like whatever comes my way, I'll take whatever way. It's like, whatever it's gonna come, it's gonna come. So it's gonna come. So for our vanilla ship this week, Mandy's actually going to be bringing in Michelle Hope. A little bit later, you guys will hear about it. But it's an article from the New

York Times. Um, and it's about the COVID crisis with domestic abuse. We've seen a lot of tweets about this, a lot of hotlines opening up. But UM, there's a lot of movement restrictions aimed to stop the spread of coronavirus within the homes and violence and being locked down and all of the issues that people probably had before but are now super heightened because we're in each other's space. But this is totally a public health crisis. UM. It's taken on a toll with rising numbers. UM, as well

as with children too. I was reading not just within adults. UM. I've seen a few different articles. I don't know if this one specifies that. I believe this one's more geared towards couples, but you know, kids that are in unsafe

homes with their parents and things like that. UM. But there's a sociologist who studies of refusive relationships and says that d V goes up whenever families are spending more time together, especially during the holidays, Christmas, summer vacations, and now with the lockdowns worldwide, hotlines are lighting up with abuse reports. UM. They're urging all governments to put women's

safety first as they respond to the pandemic. UM. But we've failed largely, UM and preparing for this public health crisis and for being able to help victims. Um, the abusers now have so much access because police are not putting DV calls as a priority. UM. But luckily we're gonna have Michelle tell you guys about how she's helping, what how you can help UM as a volunteer, just someone sitting at home, and what we can all do

to help our brothers and sisters. Yeah, I'm excited. Before I give um Michelle a call, I did want to go ahead and share with you guys just some status going on. UM of black women specifically will experience domestic violence in their lifetime, and black women are two point five times more likely to be murdered by men than white women. I know our audience, we do have a

large UM of course black women listenership. And so during this time being that we are, you know, subject to work from home, to be to still be working mothers and take care of the household and now being in our significant other spaces. UM. Yes, unfortunately, domestic violence is seeing an uprise in numbers, and so we just want everyone to be safe out there. And so UM, I'm gonna go ahead and give Michelle a call now, and we are going to talk to her about what she

is doing to make a difference during the crisis. Hello, hey Michelle, Hey, manage, what's good? What's going on? How are you holding up trying to stay in this time? I already know. So our vanilla ship for this week UM mentioned the rise in domestic violence. UM doing some things involving yourself with giving back to the community during this time. So I wanted you to tell our listeners

what you have going on. UM. Yeah, So you know, it's interesting that you would bring that up, because the idea of being stay at home or shelter in place and social distancing is yes, one faith for our communities. Uh. So we can stop the spread of COVID nineteen. But for individuals who are an intimate partner relationships that are abusive or are in family dynamic that is abusive, sheltering in and stay at home orders actually create a lot

of of anxiety and danger. For example, did you know that every minute, almost twenty people will experience some type of physical violence from a partner And yeah, and when you think about that in times like this, it becomes

this quiet storm almost that brews. And oftentimes when people are in an abusive relationships, what happens is is that it builds and everything might be okay for a while, and then it'll mount, and it'll build, an attentional build, and then there'll be a violent episode and then there'll be some sort of suite making up. Now, sometimes when we work at stay under these stay at home orders, people could leave for a little bit, or a partner may go to work, which would allow them to de escalate.

But intimate terrorism is another way, another term we use in this space, becomes heightened when you were at home for a long time, so like holiday's Christmas thing. But that so we really have to be aware of that one and to recognize that it comes in all forms economic.

So what I did was I um started a go fund Me page to be able to give micro grants to individuals who are either in an abusive relationship right now, have come out of an abusive relationship, but are not financially stable because maybe they've lost their job or they're

in housing that's not very stable. So if you donate to the go fund me page, UM the those donations go directly to individuals who identify survivors, and I give micro grants of a hundred and fifty up to two hundred dollars because although that's not going to fix the underlying issues, it could keep a cell phone on, it could pay a light though, it could get somebody a hotel for the night, or a bus ticket or a

train ticket to get somewhere saxes. So I want to let you guys know that the information will be in the description of this bio UM. Basically, I wanted this to be mentioned on the podcast because Michelle is taking donations for this, so the link will be in there.

So if you have it UM in your account and you feel like you want to give back, definitely go ahead and donate UM in the lincoln that's in our bio and Michelle is taking UM tweets, d m s, especially because this could be a sensitive matter UM, and she is going ahead and giving once again a hundred

and fifty to two hundred dollars to those in need. So, whether you're on the giving end or the receiving end, UM, I think that this is a great cause, Michelle, and I think that you're doing amazing UM, So thank you for starting then, thank you for starting this, and once again that information will be in the bio UM the description. I'm sorry of this episode and I guess Michelle, for those who may not know you, can you go ahead

and drop your social media handles as well? Absolutely, Mandy, um, thanks for allowing me to talk about this important topic. So you guys can follow me at m H sex Perked, m H sexpers Um and on all social media. You know, it's not always this heavy and dark sometimes, you know, like Mandy, I got to I like to get nasty,

don't like Mandy, You absolutely definitely like to. Well, Michelle. Michelle, thank you so much for what you're doing and I hope that you're staying safe and and thank you again for um again giving back to those in need during this time. Sorr, I a pre shit it anytime. You love you by again. I want to thank Michelle for for for joining us on this week's episode and our vanilla ship. All right now for the hoarders, I really love this one because there's a clip going on around Twitter.

I don't know if you guys saw it with the Amazon guy saying dial does are not an essential priority? Have you seen that? I have not, but I need to Unless he is a gay man, I want to know who he is to judge the essential matter of a goddamn deal, dup, I can't agree. If we're telling people to stay in the house. It is the delivery guy, like he why is he looking inside my box? Maybe he knows from the weight. Just sounds like I think there ain't no no, no, no no. He on the order.

Maybe he sees who it comes like the house. I meant it was vibrating, That's what it was vibrating, because I'll tell you now, I have King Noir's dildo. You don't think it's a goddamn chair that's heavier there. I don't know. I don't wonder how they know the way, but I mean, I guess it's from the merchant and or I think it has to do with the weight. I think they shake it around there like this is a dick. Yeah for sure, it's like Christmas. They're like

what am I getting today? Yeah? Maybe he's just mad. I would want to take like a little peek at least into the home, like let's say you deliver the dildough. You know what I'm saying, As someone answered, are you okay? Granny? Just like peeking like oh hey, like going on, what's going on? What's up in here? My shift in until you know nothing is going on in here, which is why you need this. But the horror or for this

week is a great tip. I actually, um didn't know much about this before, but the tip is for people buying sex toys where a lot of us are masturbating right now. It actually advises not to buy them off of Amazon or unverified online retailers because they're not FDA approved and non FDA approved sex toys. Sex toys have been linked to causing cancer and infertility. Sex toys made with jelly, like plastic sheets are made with phil athelite.

I don't know those nasty chemicals whatever the fun they're talking about in some water bottles, and you don't want them eventually to seep into your system. Um. So I've heard this thing with jelly for a long time not being a safe sex toy to use because so much bacteria sticks onto it and it's not as easy to clean, and then even when you do clean it, a lot of ship gets stuck onto it. Um. So yeah, please just make sure that you are looking up what's in

those sex toys. I think like I'm the type of person that's I sort by price low too high, and that is how I shot. So if your post is gonna get cancer and not be able to make babies, I'm just saying you might want to think about it. Just look into the stuff that you're getting from online. Um yeah, I mean I never even thought about that. I mean even try you can try also just different um, I guess materials. So I got a I have a double sided glass dildough and I've been told that those

are actually really fun but also safe to use. Um, they're easy to clean, but also there's um, you're able to add temperatures to them. They take to temperature really well. Something that you can put in your fridge or your freezer and you can kind of make it cold to

give you a cold. I haven't done this. And the ice cube thing are Our guest last week said that she actually masturbated with ice cubes, so um yeah, like actually adding those and and also if you even know a lot of the condoms will tell you that they have like warm sensations like adding different it's the sex actually does. The glass though, is a big one, because that's where people really like when they get it hot. Like I've noticed that likes and the good ones are

actual pyrex and so it's like medical grade. Yeah, silicone, they say, is how you know you're getting the most high grade sex toy, which is generally like the Womanizer of the rabbit Ship like that. Um, but metal is also on the list. I'm serious. But you got to think about it like nipple rings, like metal will be fine. I feel like metal will be more safer than glass classic. I mean, we talked about, um, what what was it called.

I can't remember even the name of it, but I talked about it when we had Lover's Coy Lover's Quarrel on with Michelle Hope. Actually, um, it's where they were sounding sounding six metal pieces down the p hole and it's the past. Have any of you guys done sounding that was my middle school years? I haven't done since middle school that you were Wait, both of y'all were sounding in middle school. I was in middle school. I don't know how soon you started high school high school?

See y'all like talk about like your first experience or how you went about starting sounding that young. I'm not gonna lie. I thought this was like an older thing to know. Um, I don't know, because like I first got into like porn in middle schools eighth grade. The sounding is too, by the way, vincent sounding is where you insert something into your uretha. So, um, I didn't really get a pleasure out of it. It was just something I was like, Oh, I want to try, but

I didn't have the proper tools. So it was a DS stylis. So stylis is kind of thick, isn't it. No, not not a DS stylist. Okay, came in my s from I mean, it's fine, you know this wasn't the one I used. If you guys are just as like I mean, I wouldn't. I was like, what the is the stylist? So stylus actually y l us like from a black I don't. I don't care about how you spell it. But it's actually like what you used to, like,

um write, like on an iPad or umpire. For sure, you stuck one of those in your God damn your threat, your psycho. It was. It was. It was an experience, not even clean though you clean it middle school middle school clean. But to til the tail, Dan, what did you put in what you put in your dick? I actually wins and God sounds uh through the powers of the internet. Okay, you classed it up and so really did you did you do the sounding or did you receive? Yeah,

this this was solo. It was so low. So me to myself, did you enjoy something that you also saw in porn? It is porn? Was how I learned about it and found out it's a thing. And I mean, it was definitely an interesting sensation. And really that's a lot of from what I from discussing it with other people into it. Yeah, there, it's just to get a different sensation. And really, you once it's in, you let it fall in. There's lube, there's lub because well that

would hurt. I didn't know, so you did it without loub correct. So it's like like I was gonna like he's a he says, it was like an interesting sensation. I was like, damn, it burned for me. Like, let me just tell you what's so funny. You're talking about a Nintendo DS style, is right? Yes, for those of you who can't see, and obviously none because I on zoom. There's a bunch of video games attached to his wall and some in the corner, and I'm just like, oh

my god. The next time someone tells me there into me in the game and I'll be like, wow, you stuck your style. Oh gosh, that was great. Actually that was hilarious, not as interesting. Um, So I found two that I really like because we're all stuck in the house, so like, fucking um. The average person has sex a hundred and three times a year, and I'm curious to know. That's a statistic from the Woman's Day survey in two thousand eleven. Um, they hadn't had like one with a

larger survey group since. But then it says Americans spend fifty seven minutes per week having sex from direks and that's fourteen minutes below the global average. I cannot wait to see how this goes up when this is over afterwards too. Oh my god, God, there were be bitches out here named Corvid like no, okay, there's a baby in in India. I think twins, twins, Yeah, I think I think this is interesting. I mean yeah, I mean if we're including masturbation, then yeah. If masturbation is in there,

then absolutely. Um. I can see this going up because it takes me about seventeen minutes to orgasm when I do it. Although I skipped a day the other day because I realized I was getting a little numb. Okay, my toy is not working. So I was I self discipline myself and decided not to play with myself for one night, and so the next day I did add I was like, bitch, you're not gonna masturbate. You're just

gonna go to sleep. So I made sure I was watching TV until I started crying to like to know that I was really really tired, like you know when your eyes get water and yeah, I was like okay. I was like, okay, bitch, this is gonna be easier for you to fall asleep because you're really tired. Um. But the next day that I masturbated, because I like held out the day before, I was able to come

in like two minutes and fifty two seconds. And you know the reason I know that that's how long the video I literally, well, well, normally, I um I filter because I want ten minutes plus. In the porns that I watched, I don't like short videos, but this specific one looked really good and so it was less than three minutes and that's literally I only had to watch it once and I came and it was just a really good video. I even saved it in my notes. No,

for sure, there are those videos out there. I have this book I even save in my notes, Mandy, is there not a bookmark option on your phone? Not a book? I'm not a book marking the porn. So I literally have like a ton of different notes in in my notes section on my phone that literally just has mad porn links. And those are really good ones that actually, you know, you know, you know, maybe I'll share with

you guys. Um. I actually found a lot of pegging videos and they're actually and specifically for for our listeners. They are with black men and it's just so good. There's actually one um that agreed to come on our show once this coronavirus is over. I posted it on my page. He has a pegging video with a whole bunch of sprinkles on the desk. But his name is Mr Carlyle. I'm gonna post them on Patreon. Oh my god. He's like he has dreads, he's tatted, he looks super masculine,

and he'd be been in overtaking. So good. It's he's not taken Dick. He's taken strap. He's taken the dick strap whole, same bitch. He's taking it good, So why I can't call it a dick. I'll be telling niggas you're gonna take this dick. I talked to them like that with my strap, like you got it's my dick. You like how big my dick? You shape? Take this cube. I do want to ask you guys, as just while we're getting into this public, can you, guys, everyone in the room and it's five of us, talk about the

last orgasm that we had. So Mandy just said hers just two minutes and fifty three seconds. That was from what was that? The Sprinkle No, the s the sprinkle video? Mr sle what'd you come to if it was a person or yourself? What'd you come to if you used a porn? Oh? No, it was a it was a trans video, so it was it was a guy. It was a guy in a trance a woman. I mean, of course you gotta finish it, Mandy. I mean, okay,

I guess, um yeah trans woman. Um. And I did that just because like with watching the pegging videos, the women aren't as they don't look like they're stroking as good, like like there's a whole rhythm to fucking, and I don't think that so like many people can strap very well. So I enjoyed watching trans women because they've had dicks

their whole lives. They know how to work. Trap it too heavy for some of them, and like because a lot of them are always holding the base of it, I think they're not getting the right side or or also like I think it's very important just to have the right harness, Like the harness is very import having it attached is really the important part. So if you

have a cheap harness, it's not gonna hold well. Um. And so yeah, it kind of takes away from me when I don't feel like she's really dicking the nigger down. So I mean, like all right, let me, let me, let me move over to the real thing. Um. So that's kind of what I've been watching actually lately. What's the last Oh my last orgasm was to Abella Danger. It's like this, and I hate like incess porn, but I'm sorry, it's just the best video that she has

is fucking her step sister. I'm air quoting, y'all, And it's like under this dinner table, but like you could just tell she's really gay and she actually has a girlfriend in real life, And I just I love lesbian porn with bitches that like like fucking bitches when you can tell um. But I also was getting fucked while watching it, and I know I just maybe complained last week. I don't know if it was our Patreon or here, but I've been like losing it and like starting fights

about nothing so that we could have makeup sex. So we were I suggested watching porn, and then he was looking at the porn screen too long and I was like, nah, I'm here, look at me right, So I started this whole fight and then he came in the room and the ship on me. I was like, okay, we gotta fight again. I was like, let's put on lesbian porn, and then I started watching it and hopes that he would get piste off and no, that didn't happen, because okay,

is everything good over there? You're good? He was like, nah, let's keep doing it. He is the last time you guys came together or tell us about that. There was the last time that we fucked, But I know I've jacked off before that since then? What was the last thing you watched? Dan? First, let's go from left to right. See I think actually one of the last videos I watched it, it was pups fucking So yeah, this is really a ship. What about you, Vincent? Oh he's nervous.

I'm sorry hearing this Zac. Actually no, I'm not sorry. Um it was piss play, so okay, I'm curious were they like swallowing? Is it like for like full on drinking. It's called drinking from the tap? So oh, it's because that's what I actually we played a game. Um this is when ms Corey B was on and we talked about what we've done that we would never do again. And Golden Showers is definitely my Like, I'm good if I'd never do that again in life. Um no, for sure,

I'm totally dead for everyone. It's it's for me. What is its? It's just I don't know, it's just I like being like, yeah, I do like a sub. I know you said like the dom in the middle, but like, no, I'm generally a sub. I mean, what's more submissive than being a toilet me? Just like you know what we're ending this podcast right now? Like it's no. I mean I think that's great though, because I have a few gay male friends that are more open to piss play. I feel like than women, and I feel like that's

generally something I hear, but the gays do little. You know what I'm saying. I think because too much test hospital. Let's just keep getting nastier. So Dan and Vincent, you guys do piss play together? We have not not yet yet? Really, what are you waiting for a hotel? But probably get missy? Yeah? What about you? Is it? What about you? Is it code easy? What's the last thing that's right? What were you watching? I mean, it wasn't like a very exciting video.

I was like kind of in a time crunch. Sounds kind of weird, kind of a time crunch, but I think it was actually with my favorite point star, Riley Reid. I don't know if you guys know who she is. Yeah, she's the white girl that made a video saying nigger, nigger. I did not know that. I probably watched that afternoon. I don't support that. Every person right now, everyone's so now.

I did not know that. I wanted. I used to come to Riley read too, and then like I talked about her on Twitter and they dragged me and like kept uploading the video. Well, I talked about it until you just drugged me on this so whatever. I hate When like my face disappointed me, I was like, I look so she said it are we forgiving her? And then I went to a few of my gay male friends Twitter to see how they felt about the situation

before I became problematic. I'm like, well, if they're hypocrites too, it's fine. But the thing is, like it's to me and like it was more forgiving, but now I'm like, it's you fucking know, like what you can and can't do, Like if you do it, you're fucking idiot if you're doing it to be stupid, like, so no forgiveness here for that kind of shift. I'm like, you're just being I don't know, problematic. Next week, tell us who you come to well do alright to find her like on

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you guys. My brother first introduced me to y'all, um, and he was like, there's this raunchy s podcast, these two bitches talking about sex, and I was like, I'm down. Um, So I listened to y'all on SoundCloud first until I found you on Spotify and then I don't know, I've been listening ever since, and you guys are always like, oh, like hotel like just came out and so yeah, we were drinking, me and Cody, and I was just like, I'm gonna tell them about my puppy shit, I'm gonna

do it, And so I emailed you. We were trying to come up with a way to like get on the show. We were like, we don't want to be those basic as bitches that are right and be like, oh, we want to be on the show. Why because we're crazy, Like no, we're not going to do that. That's the word.

And so it was just like this and so this is my and I was just like puppy ship, like I'm gonna do this, and so I emailed it and then within the hour, like y'all emailed back, and I was just like, Cody, oh my god, just so you know, we downed, like we downed like four shots. Like right after you said that, we were like fun guess like and I was like, I signed now, I signed Dan up fore. I was like, hey, by the way, we're gonna be on a podcast, Like I'm just gonna let

you know right now. And I was like, hopefully you're okay with work out to us. I mean, Mandy and I really spend a lot of time trying to figure out who would be a good guest and and it's hard to find people that are super into Kings, at least I think even before, we've had so many people contact us, but like they're not in the area and we want them in New York. But this is perfect, right, and you've got a mic and you guys are actually nasty,

So I guess I guess. I mean, you said you said pupp and puppies and I just gott a fucking cat. Can we let people know that we're not talking about bality here and that you're not literally fucking puppies? Correct, because that would correct it is not that on who's sucking puppies? Um, so, can you explain what pup means? And and yeah, what is puppy play? Play? This is you have a better explanation, And I usually to really

reiterate the difference between play and best reality. Uh I, I personally don't call it puppy play because to me, if you keep it at pup, you it's a nice clean distinction. But no, pup play in general is really just a and an escape from the human mindset, being

able to break free from that. And I mean, we've all seen dogs play in the park backyard and they're just so free and full of life, and it's it's a different human version of that of being able to just wait, wait, wait, wait, I haven't definitely so y'all, y'all get on all each other and sniff each other's butts and literally wait, also you'll actually dogs and then yeah, we're sacrificedness. Yeah, nuzzle, let's hear your best bark Well, he's a howler. Yeah. So for me, it's do you

have do you have puppy names? Mine is Maddix McCloud, doggy, leather mask, put it on, put it on, and then he has his own hood too. They're called hoods. Yeah, we've heard that term. Okay, so these are so this is some white babils. So do you guys Do you guys have attachable tails as well? Or is it just the hoods? I have a tail. I mean it's it's it's like an anal plug. But and I've got one now too, well, I mean I think that makes more sense. Well,

and it does. Also it's it's more stimulus also, Yeah, just because it's around my question as to if you guys are shipping and smelling each other's ship. That's not like there's no scat play involved in this, is there? Okay? Okay, no no no, no, no no no no, it's like and the thing you can combine it. We're just not people do that. I'm sure somewhere in the Internet somebody's doing two girls, one cup. Are you guys into play

before you met? Is that how you met? Yeah? A little bit, And I mean I've only had my hood for a year. I got it last July. Um, but like I know, I've been watching videos and I was just like, oh, this is really cool, Like I think it's cute. It is kind of cute. Put play is this? Is there a category? Like if anyone was interested in watching this on like porn Hub or any of the websites, can you type in put play is it? Is it a it's an actual category. Yet the patrons, I guess,

all search for play video. Um, well no, you guys got to send us your favorite ship. That's what you gotta do. Send us the all the premium put play like this is how you want us to see your culture. Okay the white sure, we got got me somebody black right now? There dating site that, um, someone work familiar with fat life, But for maybe people who are interested in finding pups, there's someone who's interested in it. Do you know if there's an actual specific dating site for

for put play, not for pups specifically? There is recon, which is not as common in the US, and that's a really fetish and kink in general. And of course that one's that one is on the gay side. Have you guys been to any parties for put play. I haven't. One of my friends who is a pope has been trying to drag us out to some meetups and some mashes. They go to actual international house of pancakes. Yeah, yeah, they go and they just talk about the community events.

And I mean this is in street clothes. There's no yeah, there's no fucking in the middle. There's like a community board. But do they wear their like hoods? I was like, sure, I'm not like a big gas table of like. So, the textbook definition that I'm seeing on puppy play dot info or pup play dot info is a involving fetish where people have an interest in role plays canines and their associated handlers. Um so, who out of the two of you, Dan Vincent is considered the sir or handler

or mr. So I guess I'm more of like the alpha pup. Yeah, I was about handling the woods and the tail. You're both acting as as pups. You're actually not doing the corner and the pup. You guys are just doing two pups playing in the park. I guess what other types of what? What other types of role play? Like? Where else do pups play like? If you guys think of a scene. Where else have you guys played other than a park? I mean, I mean, really, it's just

what you want to make of it. It's more of a headspace that m do you guys do play while your roommate at home. We are we are very considerate and he is very thankful for that that he does not. I mean, luckily we have a two story house, so I'm on the bottom floor and then they live upstairs. No, I mean, it's it's not like it's not like I own it. I rented. I lived down the street from ou.

It's fine, but no, for sure. I mean there have been times where, like, you know, I've heard him come home and like I would text and be like, hey, can you keep down, I'm trying to take a dick up the gass and so you know, and then that's when I hear him up stuff. Yeah, So I'm curious. Like on this website, there's a pup play flag and it's like a hand reaching out to like someone in a hood. And then there's pictures of a little girl in a wheelchair at a parade and just someone handing

your flowers and playing with her. And it says that there's a social aspect to this, and people are trying to rate if their style of put play is purely sexual or purely social respectivity. Um, it can be both because I mean, think of it. Who doesn't like puppies? Right, So it's like like fuzzy little dog, and it's like it's you're a character, you are another, you're something else

other than yourself. Yes, you can think about that that way. So, and it's merging the both the mental headspace with the physical appearance. Something I'm reading as well, and that put play is not humiliation, Um that they don't like putting tops in cages, etcetera. Can you guys talk about that,

like how does your would you agree to that? I know, like, um, I mean there are some pups that do like that, but obviously it's not something that's common like obviously in b D s M if you're talking about like fulsome street San Francisco, they do that. But other than that, it's not necessarily common. And there there is crossover between

the b D s M community and pups. They're not mutual exclusive nor they you can be kinky and not a pub, or you can be a pub and not really people put in their bios on dating apps, like,

would you identify yourself as a pup? Like? I know, like you know it's specifically even in b D s M. You identify if you're a sub, if you're a dom, if you're into masochism, like like a lot of people do label themselves and you know, as certain things specifically in in b D s M. Is this something where you guys identify outside as pups or is this something that you keep specifically in the bedroom with your partners? I think I did because on my Grinder profile I

did have my puppy mask on and I definitely did. Yeah. How long have you guys been doing um? So? Yeah, we met up first in mid December. Feet real date was on New Year's Eve, made an official January nineteen. One of the things that we do, like often when we have someone mentioned a kink, is we like to kind of have the conversation with how did you introduce this to your partner? How did you guys have the conversation? Were there any boundaries or guidelines set before entering the play?

How did the conversation go? Now? Now, Dan, you just saw him in the mask um and it did pique your interest, but how did you guys have that initial conversation before you got into play? If I remember, I actually asked, you know, so I knew they had the hood. But then it's so do you are you actually fully into pub play or is it more is it the sexual side or is it just the true costplay side, And because that's just it of some people may do.

It's so say you're in a parade and you can be the cute puppy given the girl flowers like that that can be. I mean, you get to see the smile on their face, you're you feel good doing it. But some people you need to know. He was about this life. Yeah, so I told him was just like, hey, I just had my hood for like a couple of months. Yetta gotta um And it started off as like a hook up, so we did things backwards what he yeah? Um? And also he has a bike, so a motorcycle, and

so he has a full on like leather bikes. Your family now no that this this is really in my private life mine does? My siblings are there about but I know, I mean, well I posted the picture. It was my profile picture on Twitter, and then I post the picture of me in my hood being like, oh, I'm living my best life or something like that on Facebook, and I was just like, I don't care, Like this is me in my hood. Yeah, it's fine. Yeah. People from church that I grew up with, they sigh and

like my district manager sag. And she was like, oh, that's cute until she found out and then and then she was just like, I don't want any part of your ship. But I told her. I was just like, listen, I'm about to be on horrible decisions. I'm sending this podcast. She was like, I don't want I don't want this. Who I am? Okay, I'm living my best life, living my truth. Honestly, I think it's so easy to judge though,

with like kinks and and we all don't know. For someone thinks pegging's nasty, someone thinks my book copye ship and being on Alicia's nasty, someone thinks nasty. It's like we always judge until, like we you know, until you experience it. Then you realize I'm kind of into it on Twitter and I reposted it and all of the followers that saw it were like, no, no, sis, I'm

kink shaming. This guy was fucking a low top air Force one, um and it'said day fifty nine of quarantine and he was literally fucking his shoe and I was just like, yeah, but we had that guy on the episode about jacking in front of shoes. This man was literally using his air Force one as a fleshlight, and I was just like, I think he uh, well, I think it goes back to what you said earlier of after a while, you got to spice it up, you know, the norm just doesn't it's gonna be like, damn that

lampy looking sexy. It was like, damn, my air Force one was looking kind of thick. I'm like, no, it's not looking thick. It wasn't how like you know they say, like no creases in your sneakers, Like, nah, you put that motherfucker in it. Shit, he's moisturizing the weather. I mean, I'm into like a lot of ships, but like there's some things out there that I would never shame someone for what they do. Like do what you want to do, but like I actually wanted to ask that he owns

a motorcycle. And looking at these hoods, you guys can't see them because we don't have video, but they're actually leather hoods and you mentioning him having the motorcycle. Is there a part of leather fetishism as well that goes into this play at all for either of you? So, I mean, in general, there is I mean, there is a crossover. H I honestly believe that a lot of people who are in a pub play it started as a gear fetish and evolved. Um, it doesn't have to,

but there is a lot of crossover. Um. I know with us, the motorcycle and the gear definitely, uh got Ben's going a little bit. He's like, and he's proud it was, Yeah, for sure. I mean, I've got a there's there's actually a guy out in California who makes full leather motorcycle track suits and people. I mean they're not They're not only used in the kink world. People

use these actually for racing. One of the features that his have is a and I mean the we may we utilize the front door for and and I mean they're primarily marketed for if you're at the track all day, you're going to have to pee eventually. These things aren't exactly the easiest to take on someone with someone fuck someone you know, with the mood strikes. I just bought a onesie and it has like a flat and I peed through it the other day and I was like,

you know, I'm chin it. I'm reaching peak levels of like bumshit, like like ultimate convenience, honestly, Like it's not like I'm out at the club. I have time to pull this down. What the fuck again? Quarantine is destroyed. I want to get into our home mail because it's really freaky, and I think that you guys would be great for this. Um, Mandy, I got this and I, by the way, please send your emails, UM, and your

homemails to Horrible Decisions dot com and Gmail. This was on Twitter and I normally never see it, but it came as an email. UM. So, my boyfriend and I just disclosed our fetishes to each other, and I really want to fulfill his. He told me he loved watching girls being sucked by machines and porn. He said he loves something about their faces to the point where they can't take it anymore. He also mentioned being bounded when they're taking it. How can I go about fulfilling his fantasy?

These machines are expensive, aren't they. I've also mentioned being tied up and bounded before, something I really wanted to try, but he's never taking the initiative to do anything about it. Where can I start to ease him into these things and let him know that I'm down with it. He just seems so shy when it comes to wanting to express his fetishes and I'm just down for whatever. I just really want to please him and make him comfortable with me in bed, which will hopefully open more doors.

Even him telling me his fetish is a big step. How do I get it going? I mean coming from someone who like I can't agree with her boyfriend, Like I kind of like that stuff, so I mean, if it's expensive, I mean, you gotta do what you gotta do. So maybe just asking him, like what can we do to like get that started, because it can. It doesn't have to be like a machine. It can start with the bounding and like tying you up and all that stuff.

It's more of like a I guess for me, I don't know what it is for his brain, but like watching someone with like a machine, they're usually like can't stop it and someone is controlling it. So it's more of like it's more of just like knowing that you can't like you can't take it, but like you're also

just like you don't want it to stop. Yeah. Yeah, So tying her up to where she can't really like sounds when I explain what I mean, you can't like, Yeah, I mean, she's totally contentful for it, so like it's you know, it's cool for her just like tie your stuff up so you can't really move a lot and

just be like what you want to do. I mean that that was like for me, um, when I did the pegging, and you know, we sucked ten times at night, but what was fun for me was actually both of us going to the sex store together and picking out you know, the toy and the strap thing he felt

comfortable taking. And I think that that could be the same approach with this, where maybe because we're quarantine, you guys go online and both of you guys looked through the toys together and see, you know, thet both of you guys have searched together, and if they are expensive and maybe you can't have a promo code. This could be something to where maybe the two of you start

a piggy bank together and look forward to this. So it's something that you plan it's something that both of you guys saved towards and and you make this make a wish list like um, and you know, once you reach the goal of the money that you guys saved for it, you purchase it and make a whole night out of it. I just googled it. By the way, I really think that that the communication aspect, especially when you're talking about any bondage, is paramount because, like Cody

kind of mentioned it, it very much. If it hasn't been discussed and it isn't agreed upon, it does start crossing that line. And I mean, not only is it going to help the night go better, but I think communication within the I feel crazy watching So I did go down a rabbit hole, and so everyone knows that I watched gate Point and I'll put it on Patreon because I think I saved it in my notes. But it was a little like it was. It was a

little bit of a lie to me. So he was kind of like in a I don't want to say guillotine, guillotine whatever it is. Yeah, he was in that like he was his hands were locked and he there was a huge like like dildo toy that was like fucking his asshole and I was just like, holy sh it, and he couldn't move and it was like done by. I thought it was really hot though, um, but I also felt weird watching it, so you're like to go

to church afterwards? Actually not that um, but I was like ship something happy on Netflix right now or something ships I felt. I felt I was going to suggest a cheap like, um way to get around the machine right now? Is getting one of those things that stick to the wall jelly, like the suction guy. Yeah, you already, if you already have fidildo. Yeah, you're like the non restraint person's gonna their arms are gonna get tired eventually,

but more likely than not, you can go longer. It's like a hands free thing traditional yeah, because it's loss of control that it seems like they're I think asking the question too, if it's real or if it's for example, like I love BUKACKI, but I don't want it done to me, so like is this something you want us to do together or is this just your fetish for porn? Like I think that the two could be differential, you

know what I mean? Is it an idea or do you want it to be like real, Oh thats because some people can't handle this ship that they're watching in porn. I mean, at least for mine. The only one that I think I watched in porn that I could definitely do one day is like an MMF threesome when I get ready for it one day. But yeah, I mean for right ideally like no, like I watch FISTI porn, but it's just like that I don't want you don't

want it. I've tried. Yeah, I mean I can watch and be like, okay, cool, that's hot, but it's just like then towards him, I don't know. Sometimes they just be fisting. They just be fisting like assholes, and I'm like, assholes, like the nastiest ship to me. I can't. I can't fucking do it. I can't. Like I'm just like walking and I'm like, say, you guys need to take over the show because every time we say something noting, he's like, I could do it. I don't give me a pen,

I'll be fine, Like I know I couldn't. I mean, I like the rose bed is the rosebud is hot. Sorry, Zach is over here cringing. It gives me anxiety I don't know why. It just looks it makes me feel like I'm looking too deep into someone's ass. Soule, that's what it is. That's what it's an asshole. You see the soul, That's what it is. I can't like. I'm like, if you're into that, do it. But like I, damn,

that's a great T shirt. Assholes. You should really you should really look into my should I love it well, and then there'll be a rose, There'll be like a little decorative here we got graphic. Does that make this ship? If you're bored um any social media handles that you want to share, do you have something specific for your

pup ship or what? Yeah, let us know. I do have a pup Twitter, but I haven't touched it like I made a specific Okay, So I started following like all this like gay ship on Twitter didn't even hold you? And it was like, full on, who I'm following on Twitter? There, I'm going to be judged. I'm following nothing but like only fan motherfucker's that show their dicks and jack off. I'm following starts like second Preview. I am so because

late at night for whatever reason, they don't post. But it's like literally mid day at one o'clock when I just want to see the news on my timeline, that's when I see all the dicks and I'm just like, what type of time. I don't know what type of times are on or if one o'clock for the peak time, but I literally just I just want to see the news and I have to pass all these dicks. I'm like, I want you guys for late night and they don't

like nine and I don't understand why. No, for sure, Like I like followed all this gay ship and like anything you like, I didn't know this, but it sends like a notification. She follows like oh Vincent like this, I liked it. My neighbor like texted me, she's my best friend and she was just like, what the funk are you following on Twitter? And she like sent me a screenshot of like the gay ship that I liked. And then I was like, oh my god, my mom and Twitter, if you like a tweet that like, don't

like ship, who's following you? There's so many pastors that got expanded like that. I'm like anymore, but I do bookmark on Twitter, bookmark market or later. I mean, I definitely. I did not know that was a thank So he was telling me that because I know his his neighbors, like his old roommate. They're doing each other forever. But like he was telling that story and I was like, oh my god, that's why all that ship was popping

up on my feet. I didn't know what was I wasn't, like I said, like, I was not looking for rally read. First of all, I stop driving me about but no, So I was like, that makes sense that you're sucking liking all this ship, and I was like, who the funk? Like why is this? Like I was like, Twitter's like targeting me for something, Like I don't even know what the is going on. I like the liking feature just sometimes I follow that people with similar views, but I

don't like being exposed. Like you know what I'm saying. I just feel, um god, it felt naked. I thought it was safe. That was really getting me through the days. Like I was talking to one of my friends about how I think, well, Mandy made me think of it. She has a girlfriend, um, Stephanie Santiago, who doesn't get naked but still makes hell of money on all my fans. And one of my friends shout out to Venus Act

she's a DJ. I was, bro, You've already made your mark globally as a DJ without having to be sexy. Make it only fans and just do it in your bron panties now, like DJ and your brin panties. I want to like read the news and my bron panties. Like I would love to do some ship, but I don't know. I think the only fans people that succeed are so just their content looks next level, like next level,

like miss be nasty. Um. I think that your boy Frisco, like he'll go outside, he'll get lights and ship and costumes, like you could tell there's effort into their nasty ship, you know what I mean. And I feel bad because there's so many people that need some extra cash right now and they're just like sucking their ass on a you know, iPhone camera and it's kind of dusty. If there's a time to get an only fans, yeah, like

I will support it. I'm gonna try to start a Patreon thread if anyone like has people that are actually just started an only fans, so I'm gonna have to ask her, right, But there's still nothing more disappointing than like going and liking one and like they're like, I

don't know marketing for themselves. They're like I'm so nasty to get on there, and it's like there's not one motherfucking vagina out here, There's not one freaking penis, Like I don't care about you and your boxer's like, what the hell, I'm not paying anyone sending pictures of like Dick Prince or like in their boxers or like, bro, I don't want to see your polyester nigga, like I want to see send me like we're not in high school. I don't want to see dick print dick picks sent

on my phone. But you know you said lingerie picks. Uh no, I put lingerie pick, bitch. No, if I'm sitting. First off, my pictures go on Instagram, I'm not taking just like they see my pictures to niggas, they see in his titty, puts a hole in his buota hole. Goddamnit, I ain't a child. I don't even send them now, literally sent you a picture this morning, really to anybody, because I can't. I've said this a long time, like, don't even send me your dick unless I can get

your dick within the following twenty four hours. And because that's not an option, let me just stick to my Twitter timeline and porn hub. I don't really care to see dicks that I can't even get, So you don't self care discipline. You gotta know what you need around this time. Self discipline. This is the word. Well, yeah, I know, because you're talking about fascination is self discipline.

Like self discipline would be like okay, I'm still I'm like abstaining from you, but it's like, okay, I'm abstaining from my like like you're one short step away from tries today, and that's a whole different episode. This was reminding me of a shout out to my girl Rashida. She got me a reekie session reckue session, sorry whatever,

how do you say recue session for my birthday? And so I did it um yesterday over face time and the lady was talking about showing gratitude and she's like, yeah, the next time time that you know, you're in the morning, if you want to do a small meditation, get put your coffee in a beautiful mug and sit there for ten minutes. No distractions and hold it and talk about how good it taste. And I got horny and was like coffe. You were just like, oh yeah, smell that coffee.

She was like, you're going to save her. I thought you were talking about the coffee from the coffee. Yeah yeah, I was like, damn, what was that? Folders appreciating smaller moments so that it's not the same. So the next time I suck a dick, I'm going to keep it in my mouth for a few seconds and be like, I feel feeling up all the grooves. I feel it on the roof of whatever. You're gonna be like tell me a story. A um oh yeah, drop your and

find you. We would love to know him ship. So Cody's is hang on, it's c J car I changed it, No, I changed okay, Well mine is be convinced um, so it's be underscore convinced Vicent. Thank you. Also, if you want my Skype, it's invincible spelled with Vince Um. I definitely did so. Then Cody's is Cody Underscore. Carter and I actually very rarely use social media, especially to post anymore. He was like, here's my zenga. This is I have the only act of my Space account. I want to

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our hole facts, UM. This one I found and I thought it was interesting, UM whole facts. We didn't know of another name for it, but I wanted to. We wanted to start sharing sex facts with you guys, UM, and this one was very interesting. UM. I brought it up recently and I can't remember if it was the Houston Show or or what show it was, UM, but it is from Women's Health magazine and this is one for the ladies. UM. So, ladies, if y'all have not experienced an orgasm, UM, one of these sex facts that

I found was lube makes it easier to orgasm. If you're having trouble getting off, all your problems might be resolved with one simple addition to the bedroom loube. Nearly fifty of men and women who use lubs said it made it easier to have an orgasm, according to a study out of Indiana University's Center for Sexual Health. UM. I wanted to bring this up because I think as women,

we have kind of this um insecurity. If our pussy is not linking, if we're not super wet, if you know, we we even start questioning our arousal to the man or is it me? Or am I not healthy? Should I have drunken more water? Um? So I think that there's kind of the big mom there's the stigma that we've like attached to needing lube as if something is

wrong with us. Um. And so if you guys, for whatever reason, are you know, lacking lubrication and sex, that could be a reason why you aren't able to achieve orgasm. So I just want to let you guys know that. UM. I think it can be fun to incorporate it into your lifestyle, have it by the side of your bed, get someone's there's some weird thing about young people grabbing lube. I don't know, we all, I think have that like, oh my god, if I need lube, like bitch, you

didn't fail, you know what I mean? Like we just talked about it. I think at Our Lives show was that where we talk about Yeah, I think it was Mandy was like, oh, I've pulled out like I have to yeah, but I also think that you know, obviously, I know we have a sex podcast. I think we're probably we have a lot less shame around doing certain things than I would say the average person. But that's the whole reason you're listening to this show, you know

what I mean. It's like normalizing ship that we do. Lube is for someone at any fucking age. I know. I believe that too. And it's funny because when Canadian Bay was over, his dick is massive, and I think I shared that story to where I like we went to a sex club the night before and I didn't even want it because had literally just obliterated my insides um and so I like literally just wanted a pause

on fucking him. And when he finally came um over and spent the weekend with me, like literally I kept lube on the side of the bed, and right before I knew we were going to fuck, I like leaned over, put it in my hand, rubbed myself a little bit. Just also just when you're fucking, like you said, he can't remember he came to stay for the weekend or whatever.

I think, in my opinion, like when I was just having one off sex, I was way more wet when I get frequent, like if we're sucking the whole weekend, well and we weren't working the whole weekend. But also just the use of condoms, so like the like the use of condoms, like and those were working all over the floor, but the use of condoms to like lead to it to be dry or irritated or fuck, like he has to put it on. So I think in

the time that maybe he's putting on the condom. You can be making sure not only you're looved with your own like secretions, but also to go ahead and just applyn. I forgot that I get existed. Yeah, he's been out the pictures since October and it's that's five months. That's a long time. Wow, that's a long time. I think. I think he's like, yeah, I don't miss them. It's

that's a wrap. You know. It's crazy when like I feel like when we would do this podcast and you would talk about him, I feel like I would see him more, you know what I mean, Like I feel like you pop up somewhere. I would just see her. It was more noticeable. And it's it's like when something is right here on your mind, like you ever, like your periods of day light, suddenly you start seeing mad babies, you see anti abortion ats. It's like it's everywhere. Right,

I really forgot that Nick existed. Yeah, I'm one of them. That's good though, Box Dick gotta go.