Ep150: Gayillotine feat. Ryan Jamaal Swain

and we did. I even just had a meeting recently. And I know for a lot of you guys who listen, um, and I'm sure a lot of your fans are new to listening to Horrible Decisions. Um, Horrible Decisions is a show. Clearly you listen to us and we focus on destigmatizing kinks for the black community. But it gets raunchy. So I don't know, if you know, don't listen up on a Sunday after church. Um, But um, I don't know

what I mean. Oh, So, as she said that to say, we've been talking about like restrategizing and what are people's favorite episodes? What do we do the people love? And it's generally episodes with everyday people that are nasty, So we try not to bring people aren't. So when I met you said something that I was like, I gotta have him on the show. I asked him about what

he was talking about theater. I started talking about slave play and he looked at me and he goes, I want you to sit there and understand and feel how it feels, how you feel as a black woman to watch that happen, and how black women are. I said, you know, we need to call a horribles. Yeah, yeah, okay, So should we talk about how? But I mean we can.

We should just talk about the last time. So basically, wait La, because I was gonna say, if y'all heard the episode a couple of weeks ago, she didn't already brought up goddamn Mexico, come out. I think for the shout out. So, yeah, it's great. No, we have so much fun. I get into the last lap, he's no, no, no, I see someone else he's walking with. I was like, oh, heque And then I saw Ryan and I'm like, I went my dude, I said, I went okay. I'm like, oh my god. I was like, you know, my show

I love. He's like, what's you. I'm like, pose, he's like one of them gettingniggas boat. I was like, I ain't gonna say no because, like I want people to enjoy their Yeah, I was with my cousin, Yes, Trevor, Trevor Jackson. So I go to the bastin. Yes that's the voice client. Yeah exactly. Yeah. We voy is like Trevor, I don't think he's ready for your show yet. I've already tried. But it was beautiful. Yeah, you know, yeah,

that's my cousin. Like family of Beauty. Listen. Yes, I come back from the bathroom and I see why do they go on the floor looking under a barn. I'm like, what the fun was going on? He's like, oh, the dude lost his car. And I'm like and I'm like, motherfucking bougie asked. He's like, I don't know if you can find it, but it's Chase Private Clients. Yeah. Yeah, you know what I have been trying to figure out, like the difference between like boogie and just outright just ridiculous.

This ridiculou is just we were sprayed bottle, which influence, right, that's why we did. Yes, we did, like you, I lost my damn devid car shout out to private clients though, thank you all for we can't give a shout out to chase me tie a client and then over talking about niggle me too. I remember all of that, Oh

my god, mostly all the private clients. I need to know what happened to the coke boat and why no one has brought it up since you goddamn y'all don't know how the guy sees the boat of cod and was it was that motherfucker's disappear. You want to talk about it, but you a private clients, I don't know nothing listening. Go ahead, you know that's how they chopped. Well, anyway to Mexico, I met Jitano, I go across the street.

I'm like, oh, look, there's black people there. No bullshit, because we were the only other black people there running too. We end up kicking it. So finally we go to this Oh no, no one wanted to stop partying. So he was like, where can right and I'm with I'm with the crew. Now I'm like okay, so we'll be going. So we try to go down somewhere and then it's closed. No,

let me explain. We've done a very rural looking road and so f only this guy goes in a taxi if you want to take you to the Mexican party. I'm like, well, maybe we shouldn't. He's like, no, let's go, yaw, we're that brave. Let's go. When they are chopping people up and ship, mean, they have more meat to sell and more body part. Like we were one of the people that if I needed to, I could beat the ass.

Like you know, you just like you do an observation, you like look around and you're just like, Okay, they're small. They were small. This is what we're doing. This is a Mexican My exes from Mexico City lives in Mexico City, Mexican. Oh. I'm just saying, you know, like, so we get to this dingy look at Mexican place and let me tell you all koree bab they got you know, the buck like beers and a bucket and ship. So I'm like, now the lights already asked Ryan to come on, so

it should be semi professional. I'm like, maybe I should ask him if he wants to light sucking fine weed. I don't know that's so for hey, do you want in a foreign country? Yeah? Also, you know it's holiday, Brian's hanging with fucking LaQuan Smith. They're on there like she she, So I was like, maybe they don't want shitty, you know, something like listen do you want And he's like, oh my god, yes, I'm like I'll bet you'll find it.

He's like, well from where I was like, give me a minute, I'll put my days later, I was looking for the Mexican plug and again we did. We found him show did now ask you real quick? Can y'all tell me what y'all think a Mexican plug looks like tall, tall, taller preferably preferably has like a red shirt or a jersey shirt, like something that is like so americanized that it is like, wait, it's out of place. He did.

That's what That's what we were just like wait, because you know, we were in Tuloom, like it's like parties and then the roads and jungles. That's it. And so when I was just like wait, overly commercial, he got the bag, you know, you know, like that's what we Yeah, we were making an obvious we drug deal in the corner that mind you, I already told my story about the fake molly that I bought, So now I'm like this.

So we get to the bathroom and we're in this corner, and he don't speak English, and neither we don't respense, but I'm like, kwondo, I'm asking him, just like how you have bad day? Came for our Spanish A couple of episodes ago, Oh goodness, manudo, huh good, I'm glad. What's the nigga of Spanish people? What do they say? Come jingo away? Right, that's Mexican. You can say away. You could say money like that's fun. Yeah, you like, oh, that's right. So we with the help of another Mexican.

So once we purchased our lord's weed, which he only had hundreds and had to ask for change. That's what I mean. Can I have a tip? He had? He had the audacity. Isn't this an entrepreneurial I don't know. But but the part of the taxes people, the part of the story was that when we got in there, we went straight to the bar. The bartender is like taking pictures of us, like we celebrited. So I was like wait, wait, wait where where like yes, that was that. But then we went to the back end found our

over commercial. But the man that was helping I don't know if you remember this, the man that was helping us speak Spanish was like, well I also to have Yes, he also too has the thing the plug got you bro. Now he's like, I'll help you from me. Now. It was two of them and we both weth this one. So finally the club got so the ghetto. So we go, oh no, and this is what I said, because your Spanish was on no, no shade. It was so good.

It was really good, just good. But she does I think, I don't know, I don't know how to speaking to be speaking English looking battle, I need to buy Spanish. It just English would have okay. I was either drunk or out of what was going on, but I was like, well, we're staying at the art house and they're sure villa.

I'm like, ars is here and when this here? So we're not going all back together spread with this terrible weed and everyone's smoking it and then saying how bad it is and smoking so much of this a regular. They were like, I think I'm getting hot. It definitely grass. It was definitely it was placebo down for sure. I don't know if y'all seen. Well, a couple of weeks ago, I think she was in Detroit summer. Walker posted like

literally grass that she got. Someone sold her weed. She paid like over a hundred dollars or something like that, and it was literally like a regular and grat I swear to guy, can you find it? You know, if if you can find looks her fault though, to be honest like that, all this should look like Cilantrobin with seaweeds. That's how you exactly exactly. The last final thing that I remember, you may not is Ryan Wren, one of the men's that were in the house. So do you

remember what do you mean you? So there was so that I was ready that nobody was saying we have alcohol. We had We had a little bit of alcohol, whiskey could get out of the house. We had a little bit of water left. You know, you can't drink the tap. Yeah, So I was like, well we gotta drink slow. Everybody stick wisely. The SPAN student was like, you know, one of my friends does not like we interviewed him, Brandon, he does not like the N word. Honey. He's like,

I don't like it. I'm not comfortable with the in Brandon is black, um, but he just doesn't like using it. A lot of black people that way, not him. Spanish dude in the house that he didn't like that. He's like, he's always taking me, but I'm black too. And Ryan was like, but he was Spanish it, you know, because because you know that, you know that the whole Dominican Haitian like he's got black in him. But he was saying, Brandon doesn't want me to say it because the African

American experience is different with the word, which is absolutely true. Um. And so he was like, but I'm also black, so I can say it. And Ryan goes, and who told you that? You know me? My university asked they you know they taught me not. We don't play that, you know, because it was like one of those things where you know, I think what black people are doing is just like reaffirming and like taking ownership, like taking it back to the word back the same we do with home and slut.

Yeah yeah, so and bitch, like you know when you say it's the difference between bitch and whatever, you know, whatever, skank whatever whatever. So it's just like for me, I was I was triggered. Yeah, I'm actually what you're ever going to get consensus on how? I want to know why? Because so my one of my best friends is Puerto rican Um and she just had a panel and she said nigga in front of a whole bunch of people and they recorded, and I was like, did you just

say the inn word on stage? And me and her get into that battle all the time when we're talking, I'm like, don't say the n water with me? And so did you did you further go into a read as to why you don't want to think I did? Yeah, I did, child did breaking on Grass? It was yeah, it was yeah, it was. It was because then and then Ryan's petty because I wasn't talking. He said, how are you feeling my life? Sensus? Oh yeah, because we

got because we got into colorism too. He brought that up. Yeah, because I think somewhere along the line he's like I'm dark enough to say yeah, yeah, he says something like bullshit. I don't know. But but but the thing about it is is what's so funny to me? And also with the l G B t Q, I plus community when they're black and when the others are beige. Is the fact that everybody wants to benefit off of the struggles and the things that the people of color have done.

And I don't want to really really they want to use all the slang but not know what it means to be you know. And and I found that that's what the conversation was with that gentleman, that young man. Um, yes, okay, he was a lot hell do you I'm he was a lot younger. Yeah he was. He was a lot younger, but you know, and I will say I was asking questions, not not really feeling entitled, but sincerely like, I don't get it. I have to be black to say this,

and I am black, and I acknowledge I'm black. How come now I'm just spinning? And I think and I think also there was some type of divide between the whole because he was a Dominican and then we were trying to talk about like the Haitian evolution a moment, but I talk about they would shoot you all the leader can afrol Latinos say, nigga? I mean we ain't that podcast? Are we about to talk about now? Don't we don't see me. That's a serious question that I believe.

I believe. I believe, I believe that you can. I just feel like it cannot be like I know now,

it's like, so it's hard. Here's my thing. So we have like that because you know that it's either context and can choose when you want to be in intention versus impact like you're saying, you're saying it just to be like, oh I'm I'm here too, I'm with y'all two, or like actually know, it's like the same thing between you go down the street as a person of color or a person from African American or whatever, and you walk down the street and you you you know, what's up,

and the African from Africa gonna be like, what in the hill is going on? It's like it's very much like that. People. We have the same colloquialisms and the man you know those those things. So it was just for me because his ass was coming from an entire place. I had to read him first off, and then secondly, listen, I hate I don't like the word that much either, but I know that it's a it's when it's coming to me, it's a form of endearment. It was just

like impact versus intention. I feel, you know, intention, Like, yeah, so vanilla ship is our segment where we talk about in the suit News, which will be the most vanilla thing we talked about today? Now I see the headline. What was that I heard? I was like, Oh, let go. I watched Sex Explained last night. There sixteen minutes episodes watched it. Yet Oh I know I didn't know Genell money. Yeah, I didn't know that. I don't know either, But until she was like blasting it everywhere by yeah down, I

hope she don't read on that scale. Are your friends were good friends? He Janelle? If you're listening to your friends? Uh? So? On Sex Explain, it started talking about attraction and how attraction has to do with our environment, not the environment culturally,

but from the womb. One crazy thing that they said and I had to keep googling it because I was like, I need to see this research is that gay men generally have more older brothers when they have brothers than straight men do because the chromosomes are basically left in the mother's womb and your body is used to being around I don't know if it's the bottoms have more older brothers. According to science, gay sist gendermen tend to have more older brothers and straight sis sis men, but

the effect is particularly pronounced for bottoms. Um so basically real quick, because we walked over the studio and she goes to explaining this, and basically it's saying that because of the chromosomes that are left in the womb, that's your environment and that is where you turn get baking in there, baking a gay as a chromosome boy girl kind of bringing out you're baking their chromosomes. You Now, if you had a lot of why, that's when you come out like little at of you just like you

got a lot of big words. These fetuses wouldn't have a lot of why. Chromosomes caused an immunological reaction in some mother. Mother, you a brother, you might a little bit. You know. It's not people to have older brothers, by

the way, it's just the trend of gay men. The people that have older brothers, like as far as like gay straits whoever, they're just saying gay men generally have them were on average, which because women I would think it would be by the way, I would think it would be most men who grew up in a house hold of women tend right. I mean that's my experiment. But also, gay is not. I believe we're born the way we are. I believe some fluidity has learned and

you can grow. But I do believe if you're gay, you're pretty much were born that way, which gay is science to me, it always has been. I think, my mom, you don't believe what that story. We're not gonna get itto no no, no, no, no no no. But I believe you know, I you women that don't make you know. But but the thing about it for me, and I've been I've been always about this train is like sexual fluidity, right.

I just always have been about that, and I feel like they were moving towards that more so than anything. Like for me, I grew up with a bunch of women, like warrior women, so I respect them in a way that you know, I'm not like primitively like attracted to them. However, there are a few that I'm like, oh, well, to Tessa Thompson, definitely, um and uh oh, how am I getting? Well let's see, I mean, oh yeah, I do love her. I mean I love her and I just I love

It's always fine, that's fine. No, but it's like, okay, Tess as a perfect example, I'm not gonna get out the second one, but like and regards like mascaline and feminine energy. You know, I love that in anybody period. So she and her husband's I don't want her. I don't want to do it for you her daddy. Can

I get daddy? You know? Rihanna more like we got the same like birth chart, so we both were bought the same people stand like Beyonce Arianna to almost be sexualized, like I feel like when I look at these women, I'm like this, I will definitely I will okay for eleven that is not leaving many bullshit what you know. The second we had an astrologist on right who read us with natal charge everything. So no, Mandy was feeling

when she was like, you're confident, you're strong. She's like, right, right, and she was like sometimes you need to take control. She's like, see this is bullshit making ship up, but confident I have that. Yes, you say everything right, but it's bullshit. Well, because it also got into like some houses and universes, and I think that part I am. I'm so confused about houses and I don't. Yeah, I'm trying to still get that part everything I want to do.

The Crouching Tiger, hid and dragon bullshit. Okay, damnit. You remember when you used to go to Chinese restaurant and you had to like pick your thing as a kid, was like a part of me. So I just ordered like this Chinese food. The other day, I went through the real quick because I want you to fortune cookie and I was like, let me read my fortune. I really like it. And I was like, see, I knew that she went with another one ship that I was going to get a letter from a loved one nigga

a text. Don't I send letters that ain't in jail? No more? You don't do that. I don't because I missed all the stories. Ain't even in the picture no more. I don't even know watch brought him up, but I know, but but I feel that he didn't. That's my girl. Let's get the show. Got some nerve. My nigga that had the gun under the pillow. She was like, here's she's like eight years you know what I mean. I can't like a nigga with a gun under the pillow

for safety. Oh my god, Oh my god, I'm not saying I'm in the ghetto, okay, we I mean the best tweet, the best tweet about that video was when the IB kids go off their hallway, you know, like did you have would you have schools where y'all had um and I be like hallways where the smart smart smart I went album School of Fine Arts and then I went to Howard Howard University like high school, the only, the only, But no, there's the like in some schools.

How that baby boy or a girl or none binary on that video, um looks that's how the IVY kids usually look. So when he's like, I'm in the ghetto. But that and the tweet was when the IVY kids leave off their hallway and go to the public school area is the IB The International Baccalari is like a curriculum where you know the children, So they are kids, Yeah, they are the kids, Like that's how they look. He

was he the very non binary look at me. You know, well, I'm excited to introduce this new segment um where you guys will hear we're shout out to one of our patrons. By the way, see that we don't don't do me basically, but she couldn't name it. Basically, yeah, it's gonna be Holfax. We're gonna call it the Fax. Um. Indeed, I hear I think x or that's how I mean. It's really affect.

But listen, we're working on the name. As you guys know. Um, we we do focus on kinks and we will get back to kinks as we have crazy people, not crazy, I'm sorry, different people in the king community who come on and share. However, we are now going to introduce wild facts about sex that you did not learn in your history class. So this one. My kids knew that

impotence trials were a thing in medieval France. There were very few ways that a woman could divorce her husband in the fifteen hundreds in France, but there was one dealbreaker. They were allowed and a novement if they could prove that their husband couldn't get up. These these tests did take place in court and a man would have to make himself ejaculate in front of a jewelry and potentially

have sex with his wife too. Um and so basically, so back in the day, Um, even in the it's kind of cool, really pervy, but because if he can't be that this interesting though not interesting because I know, um, we have talked about men who maybe just have performance anxiety. But also when I took when I had my wild crazy night at the sex club, Um, mind you, we had fucked five times before even getting to the sex club.

We fu the total ten that night, and the first time we went to fuck um at the sex club, the couple beside us wasn't the most attracted and he couldn't get up. So I'm thinking, like, damn, if you got a in front of a jury, Like if you don't like to perform in front of people, that's an easy way to say you can't get up because somebody get well, yeah you do. But the thing like I would say, um, I don't have to say anything. I just imagination, you know. So it's one of the things Pisces,

I do believe in that ship. I didn't know, of course you do. Oh okay, I was gonna like you. But now that you have. Pis got a crystal on his home. Yeah you know this is ours right anyway, the sex, the sex. So I went to I did myself first to Little Trip in two thousand and seventy, I went to Miconos to the church, went to the church where they you know, have like they really do like crazy shit outside of their like fucking sucking please give me that location, like literally it is right there

on the dock. And the crazy thing about it is what's so funny to me is that during the day is like it actually is a church, and then during the nighttime it's debauchery. That's exciting. No, that's what I mean, Like that was that was fab So anyway, I went

there that I went to Italy, but I went to Cicily. Cicily, I went to Catania and they have like these these these um what they called cruising bars, cruising bars, and every and every time that I'm there, nobody is there and I and I try to go like at the times because that was my first time going, first solo trip first everything going there and was like I want to go, I mean Italy, I wanted to do it.

I just want to picked this place. But then I was like, let me go at two pm when nobody there, just so I could be like, Okay, I see somebody, but not really. Have you been to cruising bars like in the city. No, But there is one that was in an article of GQ um No i've been. Yeah, I think I think where it was talking about how men usually feel more comfortable masturbating in a group of men versus like by themselves. That yea, So my friend gonna put his name out there because he'd be doing

this article. Yeah. They literally, he'll he'll me there like parties. Yeah, so they get together and they literally get in a circle.

They don't touch each other out either, They literally just look at each other and jack and Jackie like and it's more communal that because because I think when I was a child, that's how I mean, those were some of the first the first experiences that I had with like not not even being attracted to them, just like wanting some type of because I really didn't have any

male friends when I was a child. Like I wonder straight guys do that and they would never admit it, but like, but like I think the percentage of the men that are in those those clubs, I think about seven to are straight. So they'll just it's kind of high. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like they'll sit over on a corner and then you know they'll they'll just watch it. Yeah. And there's a guy that I was that was like the

straight men are joining masturbation club. That's what why they're The guy was like, I'm not gay, but which to be fair, he wasn't attracted men, but he would do like the whole equal ox. Oh yeah, the old old girl. I've never done that, but I've heard the stories. You haven't. Are you a member? I am a member, okay, but you haven't, so I do. But I know the different locations. I do know the locations. What are the dirk Off ones? Chelsea for sure? Chelsea definitely Columbus Circle that I've heard.

We will never have a sponsor talk. They are not like world, like this world, so we won't get access to any Equinox. Got it. Maybe i'll sports clubs or you know, houses. There's only ten questions, but I feel like they'll go forever. Ten questions with Ryan first two weeks, okay, swallows, we are not childhood not because babe, like I had

sex with someone. They spit in my mouth for the first time, like maybe I think a few days of not a few days a few months ago, and I was just I didn't know how to take it because he was he was very like he was just very aggressive, and I said, way, okay, you aren't here for that. I wasn't here for all of it. You have to like, did you know he was about two? Was your mouth? Like? No, I did not know he was, but I did right right, And then I was like, okay, something about could in

your mouth? Yeah, and I and that's that was the first time that happened. And I said, m h, not not like that, not like that. It's recently. Um, I just had sex, and I'm gonna explain that sex paid on another sex. But he's been into my face and bitch, and I was like, okay at the mouth. But the thing is, these lashes though you didn't pay, Like, I ain't gonna lie. I know, my lashes like apart because they was wet, and I was just like, so he's still sucking me. But I'm just like, no, actually I

still see it. I still see I still see I still safe. There was a different way that I took it. There's a different way you take a nigga spitting in your face and nigga sting in your mask. And so I'm not gonna lie. Two seconds I left my body left the room. No, no, no, that's what I mean. That's what I mean. So I guess that was my onset, like, okay, that was the first time that and then yeah, then I was just like and then I jolted. I said,

I thought, my body literally goes out. And then I said, wait, wait, wait right, keep it going, keep it going with I want you all to know that they're listening. And I watched on YouTube that I just did air quote because spit is disrespectful. I think it's fight. You're supposed to fight, like you know what I mean, much like I think the sucking dick thing sometimes, like with coming in my face,

is that disrespectful? Like that Secure episode? Now I agree with this helps, but when I watched that Insecure episode when Isa was tripping, I was like, girl, come on, so I ain't gonna lie if you come on my face my shoulder, just don't go my hair, ye aim to where it I don't like, don't have me have to go to the Dominicans. And because I'm gonna smell your nut and my goddamn weird. So it's literally just don't get it in my hair. Whether it's braids, we've

wig wait, it doesn't matter. Don't come in my hair. That's a volume shooter. If he could I mean, I just i'd be like aiming for the mouth. I did this ship the other day and I think I started laughing while he was coming, would you because my makeup was I didn't want to suck it up, so I was just like, oh, he was like, wow, let's just go. Okay, you can come. Now know that the guy, the guy that spent in my mouth was from Miami, but I didn't.

I've never been to Miami. I just I was in atlat I'm sorry, Italy, I know, but not Miami Canada. Every time that our bezzil comes around, like shout out to y'all, though, you know, because our fuzzle has changed, right. You know we're from Florida, so I've been earlier in the years of live in Miami's I think it's I was born in for Laudendale, Florida. No, I have not been. I have died. Wait okay when you said that, I

was confused. No, I haven't been. So I want you guys that are listening to know what the proximity from Miami. I've never we've never been. You live in Brooklyn. It is going to Manhattan awkward, but I've never been. You like, but if you live in Okay, hear me, No, but we moved. Oh that's a good one. That is good. Yes, that's what it's good. Is good? Guy really really black nigga like you know Caio no it oh two minutes away. Yeah, okay, haven't been because we we my greatgrandmother got sick when

I was six. We moved to Birmingham at that time. Yeah, so yeah, so it was like, I really I was not doing my my gay things. That's sick. Actually that's a good When were you gay? Seven? So yes? Right? Oh, you know I always I hate this question really but no, I mean if we're if we're putting it on paper, then I like what I like When I like it, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, same same, same, same what I like it? You know, I might want to climb

a tree one day. I might like to after yeah, a whole after you know, dig it out and no pun intended. But top to bottom, but give them in a mark we need to add. We were talking up the production of the show. Okay, talk the bottom. Describe your perfect man? What would he look like? Oh, if you have to use the celebrity, that's also fine because minus Davonte Road and or but Okay, that's that's that's that's koke. Hell no love him down but no, um okay, okay,

let's start beard. No clean face, clean face, maybe a mustang. No he has like he might be doing the blonde up black down on the beer or like a different Yes we got it. No actually actually yes actually, but yes because that's a beautiful last man, and I am plodding on that. Can we not keep pulling these? I am trying to be a fishing here. You're plotting on him, I'm plotting on him. We got twists. What's the boot?

I want to see the booth Woods? I said that in the episode with mouth and then when they said who's my Instagram girl? Crushed? It's his bitch now But like Lolo Wood, look up Lolo Woods, and I love both. He looks because if I'm mad at you, I have to be able to look at you after. And then that's her black girl, the curly hero. She's beautiful. She's a singer. She's not said she is. She's not a singe. She pisces. Look, I mean I mean close close to us because he likes that. Isn't he a scorpio? I

think he is close to us. Isn't he? Isn't he? She's fine, she's fine. I'll take both of us from him a few times, and I think I just want it. Maybe no, I mean it's there because I wore better. She better be doing. Yeah, she's beautiful. Oh yeah, I think so. He is esthetically to me and like playful energy. I love that. I like that to me someone who is gorgeous. And I also like his energy. And it's probably because he's foreign. He's from Germany. Is boris kujo

but from Germany. I didn't know. Yes, he's black and white. Yeah, he's from Germany. He's German and everything fast took me and speak another like Spanish, Spanish. Don't call me mommy while we fun. I don't like that, but I want to hear something that I don't j He said, top to bottom, top to like top, you know him talk about you did it? Well. Now here's another one. So have you ever kissed a woman? And if so, were like no, no, no. So I had a girlfriend when

I was twelve in middle school. We were so we were doing nasty stuff before I even got into high school. Like we we had this book, we found out we had a we had a friend group that was like one was in high school, wom was in middle school, and they the only time they saw each other was on a bus. So they had like a notebook where they like wrote nasty ship to each other and then just like yeah at twelve and just sent it back and forth and then sent it back and forth. So

we were like, hey, let's do that too. But we go to the same school. She's like a year older than be. So the damn principal, I'm talking about you my rib and had a YadA like I want to this, you know all that, and then the principal I think got it from her. I guess she was writing in it and one of she just took it up make copies for both of our parents. My mom is sitting there with the whole I see the copy on her like nights there, like, I see how we zerocks the

whole thing. I said, that's so embarrassing, embarrassing. You don't know, you don't know what you're talking about to me. If you're at twelve, you had more of social media and stuff. And we had my Space at least by middle school because I think, yeah, yeah, so I had my Space. Bbow everything when that was our black space. Was five years almost five years older than you. And I know the access we had in the middle school you had, Yeah, you have to use the duty that's what system. And

the internet, you know, that's what you know. That's my generation. And I was reading Zane books at me too, you know, my old girl child. I was in a bathroom at my grandma house reading them damn things. That's how I like found about anything, you know, the car, the car stories, the whole, all of them. Zane. Let me know, I was a whole earlier. Yeah, and I was like swore my man was gonna be midnight. Yeah, cket, Yes. When do you remember your first boyfriend? Gay memory? So I

wasn't a bad child. I was just sneaky. So I remember, I'm gonna I had I had boys come over to my house like in the front and I come into my house, but like park in front of my house. Um, I don't know when was the first? Yeah? Yeah, so your first game memory was in high school? Yeah? Actually no, I I had I lost my virginity when I was sixteen and my my performing arts high school in the bathroom that was connecting. So I was dating a dancer and the dance and the dance the men's dance sixteen

girls room. No no, no, no no, but you know, but like so you know, both performance um disciplines we had. We were connected by a bathroom like the men's dance his dressing room and the men's actors dressing room, and then there was a um bathroom in between. And there was a beautiful boy from Niagara Falls, like you know, gorgeous, gorgeous like he was. I think he was West West Indian had like the whole thing. Yes, I know, people lived there. They came to our Canada show like Niagara

Falls is the whole city. Yeah, it's a whole thing. Yes, yeah, it's not just the water, but the Grand Canyon is just you can't live in the Grand Canyon. Right when do you say Niagard Falls. I was like, you're in the water. That's how my brain, that's how you know we are. But I been especially Alabama like this this looks cute boy, because my high school also was a

boarding school. You could live there too, if you live Yes, he was sexually yeah, so it was like and you know he was child and so no more coffee, coffee weed water. Remember he texted me and I was in class and he was like in discipline and he was just like, hey, I'm downstairs. We've been contemplating this for a while. So then I lost my virginity literally in

the shower of the bathroom. Um it was great, but wait, hold on, gay memory not like sex, like gay memory like feeling that you were oh um four five in five months cross down? No no, but like because then the girl were you? Because I grew up, I grew up in I grew up in a a in a household. My grandfather was like my father figure, and he was always when I was a child, being like, oh it's okay to say a man is handsome or he's he's like, no attraction, it's just like he's a good looking man.

So I was like, okay, cool, well he's gorgeous and he did pretty and this, and I was like wait. Then I started realizing that I was attracted to them, but I was trying to suppress it. So then but I was also attracted to this the girlfriend with the book as well. You know. I was just like, okay, well, let's see what's going on. But I think also my

first thought probably was when my mom had to. She had, um, A friend's friends that were married to white men that were gay, and I remember feeling like right at home at their house, like they were always the rich friends, you know, the ones with memory of someone that's like what you're thinking, Yeah, and like you know antiquated, you know, um antiquated, Uh, like furniture, they had cards with you know, man with Dixon, just laying on the damn coffee table.

Nobody saw me, Like nobody saw me, like get the deck and like look at the did Can I ask you a question that um so poses a show that I just started watching, um and your story to me literally, Um, well, my friend Carlo told me to watch it over the summer. She would have it playing because she was catching up on all the episodes. UM. But I watched it because I wanted to be sure I knew who your character was.

And as you're explaining you going to a performing arts school, you seeing things on there, it's literally it's damon, it's your character. And so I wanted to ask you because in almost the opening credits of being introduced to your yeah, you know, well I don't know what part of the liver, but um in the in the introduction of your character, it was you almost feeling like you had to hide who you were to to the parents um in the show.

And then they found the magazine and you're saying you enjoyed seeing the magazines and yeah, but also in terms of you wanting to be this dancer and being introduced into the ballroom scene, I remember you being led by the character at the time, letting you know like you're accepted into this community. You can still be as fabulous and do what you'd like and be respecting about your community. So again, listening to you share your story, how easy when you read that script was it to act out

all of those scenes. So at my my producers session with Ryan Murphy, Stephen Canals, Jenny Mark, all the people effects, that was my second audition, and after I did the scenes, they were like, sit down, we're going to do a character interview. So then they asked me questions about my life. This is because your name is Yeah. They were like, yeah, so what happened, how did this happen, When did this happen?

What was your favorite day? Like all of that, And I was like, I'm reading the script like thinking that I've said that in confidence Okay, I got y'all as you were your character. So like, listening to you say this, I'm like, how is how is name in different? Well? I never got kicked out of my home, so I think everything everything else. Yeah, yeah, did your parents react the same way as they did in the show or what was the reaction of I didn't. I didn't come

out until I was in college. I saw for my year, so I was like, you know, having sex doing that at sixteen, seventeen eighteen up until I left and then I was about to go to study in London. What age is that's that's that's fifteen sixteen, Yeah, that's twenty one. In five years you come out and then you're literally on a stage. You know. That's the crazy thing, like not the best, the best, I'm the best gay and I'm not. But yeah no, but like, um, yeah, so

I was I was doing Uh. I wrote a one man show about um links and Hughes, who's also like a queer you know um and I read read his autobiography. They don't teach us that at all at all, you know, he's just speaker of the people. So I was like, Okay, I'm going to create a show for my fundraiser to get to London to study theater. But my boyfriend at the time was my production manager and we were doing a show back in Alabama as a fundraiser. So I

was like, bitch, they're my mama. No, no, the moment that you walk into my house, that you my nigger, because how I better be reacted with you. So let's go ahead and nip this in the butt. And his mom was crazy crazy. We had to lie and say my best friend was my aunt to get him to get down there to bouy the train ticket like all of that, because you know. So then his I think the theater manager. His mom called the theater manager, gave my gave his mom my my mom's mom, my mom's number.

His mom and my mom are talking. She's crazy talking about my mom calls me and she was like, yeah, I talked to his crazy as mama. She's talking about y'all boyfriends or something. I said, yeah, we are. She said wait she and like a store, said wait, hold on, that means you're I said no, that just means that he's my boyfriend. That's what it is. So she was like, I'm gonna call you back. We can talk about this with you. So, like winter break of sophomore year was

very hard for me. Did your mom say she always knew that? Yeah? No, because I think what it was. It's so funny to me because my mom introduced me to my first gay couple. You know, my cousins are like Lesbie, like she has been with nothing but women all my life. And then yeah, and then I was just like, girl, did she did she respond differently than your dad did my dad because even in the show, the dad took it way. So during those times where we're talking, when I'm a teenager, my mom and my

dad already separated. She was remarried to my um, my stepfather at the time the abuse that happened with my stepfather. So what happened at the show was very much like it was a whole mom My mom had to be the part. I mean, I mean she and Ryan share that he actually got Ryan Murphy got kicked out of his home. So that was that was a very heal That was a healing moment for both of us because I hadn't really dealt with it since I got out

of school. I mean, well I had to deal with it, and then now my mom's in my Season one premiere episode one is playing, and my mom, my grandma, my aunt, my sister, My mom is sitting next to me and she's like, I'm squeezing her hand because she's like she remembered that moment where we were at a fish fry and this happened. Like, yeah, so it was. It was

very jarring. But it's a crazy because you know, the last show that we see a queer um really like hero or person that's like fighting for the causes justice Smellett's character on on Empire, you know, well you know, I mean next line. I mean, it's my place, my own. You like acted your ass off. So even watching it and then hearing your story moment, no, I happy about. Yeah.

I was watching a movie and recently I think Ola was like I hate when black movies do this to us, Like what I know, I ain't as many bad actors, Like why do black pop just have to do this to us? That's why I posed to me was such a big because you get so invested. It's so real and good, Like it's not just because it's black. Yeah, it's just good. It's good writing, it's good, it's good cinematography. One of these more questions, Oh that's like you are who have you ever been on a dating app? Which

ones I was? I was just so, I I well about the t M I but I don't give a fuck. That's how I love that. Okay, um, I use I just got on the league. I just was. I've heard of the league act that it's just like they yeah, they suck it out. They like they only give you but three or four people to choose from a day, so you have and you know, like you gotta like

you gotta think you gotta because they're black. Yeah, um so, but but I'm on but while I'm when I go away for everybody that when I'm in my European and South America and every other place, I don't Yeah, I use it here. But um there was a new one that I found when I was in Tuloom called three Fun, which is about threesomes three fun field. No no, it's oh girl, no, no, no, three fun. There's another one

called cruising, and we talked about that. Yeah, yeah, which is like I thought that to Loom doesn't have any cruise in places is play at their Carmen and cause him out that I like the I realized that there was saturated places, right, I'm not on Rio, they haven't. I'm well, riya. I've noticed most friends that like have notoriety because you can't screenshots like that. So that's good, but I don't know if it has a strong gay presence.

So what's your profile say about you on a dating app? Oh, I'm I'm I'm gonna bring one up before you bring it up. I'm curious to know if when you do match someone, if they automatically ask you if you're real? That's no, they do all the time. Like, there was a few moments where I got a little lonely while I was here and on Grinder and was like, they were like are you Ryan Jamal Swain And I've already sent the dick pick So then I got to block them at all like or like or like or like

r y and then space yah. He said yeah, but like, um, but even my name is they haven't removed you. I got removed off Bumble because people said no. But like, let's see, Okay, this is about me. Let's see what happens. Excited to potentially meet someone that will be a vibe and a vessel. I played it same, but you know the guy is and with the horoscope ship Ari's moon. People were just like, your venus is areas. That means

you're a board already. She was like, damn yeah, he was like my venus is an are so like sometimes I just get very I'm all for I'm all for the person, and then I'm like, but my I have Sagittarius rising and Sagittarius all about adventure, like, oh I want to go here, I'll scare be aloof do that sore in both Yeah, it's always bad, but the Pisces like calms me there. I was like, okay, I love somebody. But then I get you know what I called myself on the show them ho No, I am the imo

ho no for real energy going on? Oh he okay. When I was watching sex explain, there's this thing called your discussed response, basically saying like what's nasty or gross to you changes upon your rousal. So I want to know what porn do you watch? That's too embarrassing to share because you're discusseds onto so high, Like what do you start with? And then the horn year you get

You're like, I'm gonna watch this. I start with groups, I start with the group ones, like the ones where it's like there's this brand that does like when they're like it's all men and it's like five or seven of them and they're all like like fucking one one guy.

But it's like there's a type of point. I watch, um all of the games, but there's this one and series Yes, Yes, that one Yes, like's literally called if you guys are watching porn Heaven, you go to the gay portion of it, you type in funk house and there's literally there's one that's like fifty eight minutes. But then they also break it into a lot of different ones. But a lot of times they are fucking one guy. So there's one that I really like. There's three of

them Leon by the by the pool. It is so good. Yeah that like so so that so I of those, But what's like disgusting ship important? Like I like a lot of come swapping. You know the thing about I don't know if this is scientific and we can prove it, um, let's get scientific. But like the cream pie moments, like when people are like you know, penetrating and then it's like it's like, um, there's like white like residue. I don't know, if the ask does that naturally, it doesn't.

Haven't talked about it with Dustin or maybe someone else, or I think I've had this conversation because a lot of people think that the butt the but cream's income yeah or like like and I don't know if it's science or nothing like that, but um, it's actually the loobe. What it is? That type of things kind of like if you wash your hands and it's a regular consistency and then it becomes soapy. It's actually the lube that you was an anal that once you go in and

out the friction causes it. But that does and then and the most disgusting one is like every now and then I do watch the ones where people are like farting on the dick like the air, the air, like the air, just like it's different than a pussy part because now this is really coming out of your ask. The part for noise is like gratifying, like yeah, I know that, Yeah, that's what it is. Essentially, that's a new name, not like yeah, let's do a queef and

asked queef and ask queef quef. Not a cool that's coming back from next I'll be honest. The one that's kind of weird to me that I've been recently watching, and it actually when I watched, I get scared for the actor. But it's like which one, Well, no, not to calm down with the fisting, but yes, but there's

one now and there's a whole series. Once you get into one of TIXI down the rabbit hole and you watch them I do, but it's like where they're in a dungeon and contraptions and they bend the guy over. One even puts them in a thing like where they

used to take people to the guillotine. So they get into the so they get into the guillotine and why there it is the guillotine, but the guillotine and so they're in it and they can't move, and normally they start with like biggest toys that you know they can't

really take. Yes, I've seen, Yes, I've seen a little bit of like the previews, and I kind of feel sorry hurting, but it's like still interesting, like oh, I want my neig to be taking whatever I do and no, but no, that's crazy sometimes like they have more sex. That's what it is. It is, and it's weird because you can't mind great fantasies um at all. That's like a thing. Thank god they don't, but it's crazy. So I want to shout out to all of our Twitter

followers and our Instagram followers. They send us a lot of the news. I do want to bring up one of the things that someone brought. It was the number four most watched video on porn Hub recently, and it's a girl who is strapped to um some contraption and she's being forced to fuck, but she's clearly uh an adult and they say teen girl. So they were like, what is it with pornos making it seem like it's a teen being fucked instead of an actual just young woman,

you know. And that's that's one of those things where we are so infatuated with children and well people looking premature and like just like but we do it with black people because there's an innocence with a teen you're the first one to have. So yeah, it's really just interesting, like the rabbit holes that I think a lot of us to get into with watching these porns. It's just like, Okay, we need to know what we're just watching for enjoyment, and it's just a come sing like well we know

you like how much of come. I don't want what it is it honestly, I mean they have a lot of pineapples or something that I don't even need it in my mouth. I just want to look at it, like see it. Just I love the mess. And as nasty as I am, that's probably one of the most disgusting things. I don't want it call me if I see it, even if we're sucking and we're so nasty, and I'm like, I'm your little slut and I'm saying all these nasty things. As soon as they call me,

I'm like, ill, you're so nasty. Yeah, I want to swallow it. Don't you have natys? Obviously I knew he was recording, and then like you know what, you know it's recording, and you're like, damn not gotta. We don't want to see you have sex. Put the spin on listen. Once I was getting I was like I was the first day, I like to turn it off and he's like, you really want me to turn it off? And I was like, I can't. Okay, there might be for some happen, you can't. You can't really, I can't find mine that

I made earlier. Oh, that's the word. Yeah, Like I've had about five or six phones. Yeah, don't do eye cloud. No, I didn't know. Yeah, so you always have to keep it on the actual device. That's how Rihanna got hacked. Eye cloud is whenever something's Internet based, it can get hacked your hard phone. Like I don't know how of your phone I'm saying, like, I can't necessarily get hacked unless it's in someone's hand and opened, but if it's

uploaded to a cloud swere absolutely can be compromised. Yeah, like during that time, I don't think I don't happen. I used to master recovery software right when I was working in tech and this one office I went to a finance firm can't say the name. They're huge and global and had an entire floor of papers, and I was like, oh, this is perfect. I'm thinking, like because

each cabinet is like ten grand. Yeah, and he's like, these are clients that make over a certain amount of money annually and we can't put it in the cloud, Like this literally has to be here. And they've replicated the document to other places in case buildings burned down, but it will never go in the cloud. That's how it was. My manager got got that ship for me because I told her. You know, I'm very I'm very

clear about how crazy I get with her. So I'm just like, okay, yeah I did this, So can you got it? Because though at your age, because if you if you're started here, imagine in five years. You know what I'm saying, Yeah exactly, they look at that tweet or that video or whatever. Is that something that you've done, Like, so you're on the dating apps to meet people, you're out parting. Have you gone through your old tweets or

old social media? The crazy thing about the tweets thing is that I was so not I was so anti Twitter for a long time that the only thing that was updating on that was like the Pissy the horoscope. So I was like, oh god, you can't. So when we first started a Horrible Decisions Twitter, I was going to use mine because followers, and I was like, you know what, bro, Like, I'm not gonna get canceled, so I can't go back to all these listen stuff. It was. It's terrible. I think I had one you have, UM

one of did you want to ask this question? Um? And I think this is important just for people who are listening, and have you encouraged Sis gay men that aren't supportive of our transistors As an advocate, what do you do to have that conversation? And can people coming maybe see you in panel discussions and other things? What

is your voice outside of pose? What is your voice? No, I've done a lot of panels with like ci A Social Impact and like um Finnway Health and uh it gets better and Trevor Project, like just trying to make sure that the youth understand that you know, there is in our own community a hierarchy system like a totem pole. You know, my transistors brothers and non binearis at the at the end, at the bottom, you know, when everybody needs someone not to propose, but everybody needs someone to

make them feel superior. That's essentially how how it goes. And if it's not you know gay will sis head I mean since his gay man trying to bash lesbians or bi folk or you know black to black to white or or you know, you know whatever, I really do make it my my mission, especially as assists queer male like to be like, no, you have to understand that this we have to fight for all privilege. Privileged personifies itself in many different ways, pretty privileged, ugly privilege,

sis to trans privilege, rich to poor privilege, color color privilege. Like, we are all benefiting from something, some type of privilege, um, no matter how we like to see it. And if we can be able to call ourselves and everybody else out, will call ourselves not everyone, we call ourselves out first, will provide a little bit more compassion for a lot of for a lot of other people. So for me,

that's what I'm really really about. And this last year has been um and just since the pose has really opened my eyes to the ship that I was ignorant to with my own community, you know because from Birmingham, Alabama, I didn't know if I have met somebody that has been trance or none binary in my life. But um, it really opened my eyes to how much we have to advocate for my my sisters and brothers and you know your reach at first, like when I mean, obviously

we don't know how big that it was. It was crazy to me because I don't think I didn't have a damon on my TV screen, you know what I mean, like at all. And now if you take a look at these cartoons now as an adult. No, they're going crazy. Girl. I just had an all just for one of them last night. Yeah. Yeah, I had to do a voice over last night. We'll send it in today. What what what? Little bit like? Yeah, And they're supposed to be children cartoons, but just the sexual in your windows. I just went

to the movie theater. It's all Jumanji is supposed to be. Goddamn kids. It's much sexual. And you when I was talking about like horse dicks, and I was just like, it is not it has now been, is it? PG? You could be fourteen to talk about horse dicks. That's kind of normal, isn't it? Gay shows particular where you see where I'm from, there's me show it is watching a because to me, like a show like Pose is like, oh my god, I'm going through that. I have those

dreams blah blah blah. I don't have a place to watch this. But like, do you feel like more your advocacy has to heighten? Do you feel pressure? Oh? No. That was a conversation that I had with one of my classmates from high school. He was just like, yeah, I always wanted to ask you this. He's in his PhD at Stanford right now, like like a whole, like a whole as one of the youngest candidates. PJ love you.

Um and uh, he was just because I always wanted to ask you because your visible, like your queerness has been so like I've never known you to be this queer in your life. And he was like, you should have elevated like like this bright in my head, like what But he was like, do you think that the

show like you had to do that? And you know, I always joke around when I'm in a in an interview because I think Ryan Murphy out of all of us, because in every article he was like the largest lgbt Q I cast, the largest, you know, So it was just like crazy, I said, well, I said, well, well, I can't go I baby. I mean it's already out there, so here it is. But does it do you feel like you just always maybe we're this? Uh absolutely no, and and and that, And that's what the gag of

it all was. I think, really, my my family's because before when I realized that I was going into production for the show, I called all of my family and was like, listen, I am queer, I'm going on this Queer Ass Show. I just want to let y'all know

that this is happening. So no, no, I called everyone because I was in New York training before we got done, and I said, oh, I'm calling it like my grandmam, my mama, my aunties, everyone, because I was just like, listen, there's gonna be shipped when I go into these arts, like these interviews where they're gonna be asking me about my life, and I'm gonna be very transparent with them, not not disrespecting y'all, but just distruct people that disrespected me.

And and yeah, because like I think what it is is like yourr trauma is not your responsibility, your healing is. And I think that for me to be as visible as I am being damon on like a young a queer teenager. And then also in season when we talk about queer love and black queer love and you know this, this very naive, very innocent boy going into this world that is about is all six inches off the ground and everybody is facilitating hurt. So it's like when he

goes in there and not knowing anything. There's a lot of people in the Midwest and from out Intown, Pennsylvania and from Miami and from you know, Oregon in Wisconsin that have those space like have those those those experiences and don't really get to see themselves seeing like there's

radicalization and like normalcy. And I feel like Damon is a normal as character that was just in an extraordinary circumstance and then what how he how his dreams and how his circumstances thrust him into becoming who he is and also recycling hurt like all of that. So that's a lot of from from to be clearly honest, a lot of um marginalized people, black Latin. You know. That was what I really liked about it. Yeah, like that,

that's a lot of people space laos a lot. And I've been trying more on my show too, like oh I love Latino them, you know, I don't really, But he was like my in Mexico City and no, because I was I was gonna, I was gonna follow you there. I just to burn his house, Like I'm that crazy that czy is that what pisces do? Because I just saw I saw the video on Twitter with two girls like putting gasoline all over the boyfriend's car. Video. We're not taping what'll do. We'll do it be like you.

It was the same thing that I was talking about the production manager. I think he was dating somebody and it was like a love triangle situation that was going on with me, boy boy, and he wouldn't answer my phone called text. He was like, you know, he was being that penny piece because he was also Pisces pulled him up. Yeah, so I pulled up, girl to Mexico, you pulled up. No, no, no, no, no, no no. This is the American this is when you were local.

This local, this local boyfriend Mexico is I will get on the plane. I haven't been you know, I've not been to Mexico since we broke up, Like that's three years ago. Yeah, that was my first time being back. And I started crying on the plane while I there. You were triggering, So I really brought it up. I was, I know all about it, but I climbed over that damn fence because I climbing fences. I got cut on

my hands from like the fence. Like you know, why don't Because good Dick is a prison and only you can let yourself out. This is what I'm saying. Because dating is the ghetto. I want to like, do you have any more questions because we don't. We don't have a homemail. I want to found one. But it's just as long as the way to plug your ship. And I also want you because obviously post is so huge. Plug anything that you feel like is in your lane

but isn't getting recognized, whether it be a book an artist. Yeah, but you first, um yeah, yeah, yeah. So uh Instagram is Ryan Jamal Swain. Jamal is spelled with two a's behind the m okay girl pops up, but you just put Ryan j know to pop up with the blue check, not oka um and then Twitter Ryan Jamal and um. Also, I'm getting uh there on TV one on MLK Day one.

I'm being honored at the Urban one Honors And we filmed in December five, so I'm getting next to Jamie Fox and Sylvia Rohne Chance the rapper, Miss Yell, and then it's myself and then Billy Porter is the list. Yeah, it was crazy to me, gir. I was sitting in that day when we were filming it. I was sitting there like I'm looking at their montages and I'm just like the for real though on the front row in the middle with the with the loudest outfit shout out

to that. But Dan, because it was a customer. I can't wait for you all to see that. I can't wait for the wait. But was just no, that's what I mean. And in my speech, which was lit, I was just like I did a flip in um. But you know it was a call to duty, like a promise, like you know, because Kathy Hughes was I don't want to go into the history of her, but like as women on radio, you know what I mean. In podcasts, she was very much influence Howard University was influential in

her space. Nobody wanted to give her any loan to start her Radio one Tycoon and there was just one man that gave her a million dollar loan and then it just just sore. So now this Urban One Honors is actually celebrating forty years for Radio one as well, and she's one of the co hosts with Chris Chris Tucker. Yeah, you was in a room. Now, I was in a room while it was like Ryan, that what the that that damn dapper Dan? She is like, that's the little

shi that I've never seen it. Monday Monday definitely check that out. But people that I want to shout out, um, I mean, she's getting buzzed. This is my friend, love you snow snow allegro. Oh yeah, she's popping. I'm yeah, Mr, I Mr. Concert too, and we were Yeah, my cousin Trevor Jackson. He's you know, just won the Beats Certified Artists Awards and ladies. He fine. I don't know if he's single. You know he's he's single. I think he's still here too doing press. Y'all might see him on

the street. Really well, we're gonna go to house after this if you want to buy him. That nigger that's my I ain't know him by name him. That was him. That was the one that was on the floor the way, who was on the floor helping me. You you know your your your man was I knew him my name, you know, let him know I knew him by name. That was Let me stop you guy. You should you should see them right now. I eat it? Oh my god, Okay, then Daily Daily, you know Daily is a good friend.

Amound the light scan, I mean the white scan with the curly red hair, the one that sing alone together Marsha ambrocious, that guy, I gotta check it out. I oh us your friends who were just in essence, and I just want to say I really thought me and Mandy. So we went in October and that come that long ago. I was. I looked at David the picture, so it was November. It was October, said one on one of the pictures. Didn't because Christopher came for Halloween. He was

with us. So hold on, bitch, I thought like they it was. They were like, these bitches to problematic. We ain't gonna put them up. We we we said, we did the article photos a few months ago and it just came out. So when the new year started, I said maybe she was like you know what, and I do a lot of as saying, and so I thought for the people, yeah, you know, yeah we were the

song we are I hate. If you guys support us, it does mean a lot, because um, we are on the digital version, trying to get it to the print, trying to women in here. We're getting good. Thank you. We sent each other to the office. We're like, oh wow, these don't match. What No, but I love they We're supposed to do you or I think we planned on

plaid hardness. I love it, but I love it. Actually, I need to go to I need to go to a sex shop because I'm thinking about getting toys my code, my co co star told me today or my pattern shout out to the pattern app to getting sex. They said invest in a new toy today and already says oh, speaking of and they're not talking about Well, I want to shout out we may have it in the studio. I need to look. Um. I want to actually give a huge shout out to one of our previous guests, Um,

King Noir. He is selling Dick Maltz and it's huge, he said. Both of us. Let's say, yeah, Well, I don't know if it's here. I gotta look. It might not be here. Pull that out. I don't know if it's here. I ain't look to see if we got it yet, but it should have been here. But I want to give a shout out to him. Um. And then who else do I want to give a shout out to? Oh? Just because I've been jamming it all week? Um shout out to the number one UM hip hop album and his number one for the first time in

like fifteen years. It's just like so ghetto and fun but also just the whole album. Yeah, he got the it's the number one hunt finished. I think he had both the first he had like the number one wrap and the number one single single at the same time time in fifteen years, in fifteen years. Seriously, yeah, Kanye Drake jay Z, no one's done this in fifteen years. Roddy Rich returns to number one on Billboard. Yeah, he became the first of all number one. That song makes

me want to throw my circle. But it doesn't work that way, like my work doesn't like circuit, Like, yeah, I've to work on my work on mine because um, you know, I feel like I'll have to call on it one day. But I mean, yeah, you know, but your dancing skills are up, Yeah they're but um, I just can't even listen to uh right Whinney Houston. You know. Every time, every time that I every time that I

hear it, I started sweating because I remember the whole day. No. So shout out to Ryan Heavington, who I don't know if you'll watch all the Sea of videos like the Chandelier, Lesta Car like all of those. He did the choreography for all of those. So Ryan Murphy was like, we want something like that. It felt like but then but then he was just like, um, we don't want it to polish because he needs somewhere to go, you know,

he needs to be like a street dancer. That turned into like, I love how you got nervous, like you about to kill it. Yeah, any right, your cousin's gonna come say hi. But I do want to thank you for coming on guys. I really hope you um enjoyed this show. I want to say I hope that you guys enjoyed this episode to all of our old listeners are new listeners, um, we hope that you guys continue to listen to us. I do also want to shout out to all of you who continue to watch this

on YouTube. I do want to let y'all know real quick, I'm gonna drop it dramo please. As you guys know, we will be this Wednesday in Chicago. Get your motherfucking tickets Chicago. We are going to be at the Chicago Improv Harolds you some all of you. Bring the chicken. Bring the chicken. Let me finius. The day before we then Friday, Sony Hall, New York. But for y'all who rock with us so hard. In New York. We have a second show, so get your tickets now for Saturday, January.

We are going to be at Sony Hall if you gonna throw us an after party. By the way, in any of these cities, many's gonna nave, including New York. Okay, just because the shows in doesn't mean people from can't come hit us up if you have a spot, if you want to pay us, because we're popping, Okay, Okay. So we are hitting up the state that is the biggest, where everything is known to be big and oversized, including

Dicks Texas. We are going to be in Dallas, which can can I just pause real quick, Dallas, I funk with y'all Dallas right now? Can I just tell y'all it's over double Houston, So Houston, I need y'all to show up on the twenty three, So Dallas shout out. We'll see you guys on the twenty. We'll Houston on thee and then, guys, tickets are dropping this week, so I want to go ahead and let you guys know the dates for the city's y'all be motherfucker asking for Charlotte.

Y'all have Wednesday, March fourth. We will be in Charlotte, North Carolina at the Comedy Zone Saturday, March seven. We are going back home to motherfucking Folks seven Choppa City, Orlando, Florida at the Orlando Improv. That will be a matinee show. Guys, so pull up. That will be a midday show Friday, March twenty, Atlanta, Giogia. Okay, bring them peaches, bitch. We will be at Center Stage in Atlanta on Friday March Saturday, March and I do want to announce this, but it's

possible to change. We are working right now, but Saturday Marnline's Baby at the House of Blues, So come turn up all that ship also the show. That's kind of hurting my feelings, but I funk with y'all so hard I might not be able to do dream Bill because of this. We are going to San Francisco. Oh shoot, I skipped Toronto first. He Satiday, Toronto, California. Now Toronto, California. We literally couldn't find a fucking venue that could hold everybody.

Start going back to the same one. That's so please get your tickets. We cannot do a second show for that one. We were every single venue in every city We've been trying to grow and doing larger audiences with Toronto. We could not one um, and then here we go. We are coming to the Bay, Bay Bay, San Francisco, California. You know we're going to the Bay. This is no bullshit.

Sharon has hosted our l A show that Nigga got up there and said where y'all from, and then when they all said the Bay, he said, damn, but just gotta go. Yeah. So Sunday, Sunday April five, we are gonna be at Brava in San Francisco. Thursday, April the night we will be in l A at the Region. And then I want to go ahead and let y'all know we will have our Moca Fest live show on Saturday. Mate. If you guys um have not yet get your tickets at Moca fest dot com, use promo code horrible to

say fifty dollars off. I think there are only rooms left at Hedonism resort Um. But you can't also buy the day pass. So with your day pass or party pass for the weekend, you will have access to the live show. You're also still working on our Vegas show, so hold tight, Vegas. We'll let you know where we can find other than that. Enjoy this stiff for Patreon. Become a member body if you were able to live to the age of ninety and retained either the mind of a third year old for the last sixty years

of your life the mind or body. Which would you want? If you're niney years old, you want the mind or the body of a third year old? The body. Can you imagine how you'll sound? She findest like I don't care. Like even when I was like in my in my early twenties, I always had an old soul. Niggas thought I was older all the time. I would pick the same I'm my body, I'll be seven. Do you have a secret hunch about how you'll die? I don't think about that. I think I'm gonna die. I do not

think about um. It's so weird because honestly, I have a little flashes. But it's weird because when I'm in a car, when I'm with somebody like, I won't to me. Honestly, It's why I don't I all hop out of my friend's car believe that your date death day is like already written. No, I don't. I don't think about that. And I honestly want to get off this conversation. Well, I don't think I'm gonna die doing something adventurous like I think the scariest way for me to die, in

my opinion, would be like drowning. I'm terrified of that. It almost happened to me once. There was like someone I was playing that chicken game whatever, what's it called? When you're on someone's shoulders chicken. Oh, well, she didn't realize that I was so deep under and I couldn't get up, and then her legs were wrapping around my neck. And I remember that feeling of almost passing out and drowning.

And I would never want that to happen. But I do think when I die, I don't think about it's going to be like bungee to the next question number eight. Three things you and your partner appear to have in commons So you can answer this and you this is I was about to say thirty six questions to love each other? Um, what do we have in common? I

ain't gonna lie. People listen to us, and I think now that we're three years in, they realized we don't have much in common outside of tol We both love to suck dick and we we both get our hair done with we've We both love to travel, we both love we both love our friends a lot. We love our friends. We both like ethnic foods. I was gonna say we both like bougie things, but I like Brachi, but were to Louis Bitten pers across it, and you see,

I got a Burberry jacket. But this is just now like things that I couldn't afford um and I also used to. So the niggas that I've when I talk about sugar daddies and stuff like that, all of the men that I've dealt with are those that won't buy me. They would never they would never buy me tangible things. They would buy me things for school, they would pay for my bills, they would do things for my livelihood.

But they're they're not materialistic niggas. So now that you know they know, I really don't need that money that way, if I do ask for something, it's like, oh, I want this, and they're okay, Like I'm waiting on these wine cell shoes right now. So it's but also, yes, the pump that's my Valentine's list, that's literally what I'm getting. Well, it's crazy because so they have a boot version and open toe versions and a pump vers so the boots are seventred the and the other two are. So I

was like, the boot is seasonal. Open to was also seasonal because we live, I said the pump I could wear a year round. I would get by the way. Uh yeah, but see even my even even on Louis, it's on like um combat boots. They set uncomfortable for me for those And yeah, just like, listen, that's what I want. I know that you like ship like this, but that's kind of tacky. I was like, it's not tacky. He's like, listen, it's too over the top. He's like, it's not. Then you could dress it down, but you

can wear that with cargo pants. I was like, I don't know why you feel like it's too much. He was like, I think it's too showy. He was like, I'll get you some while I's all ship, but it's not gonna be all over it. And I'm like, then this body standing mad it. I'm not gonna lie like I'm one of those that didn't grow up with money. I don't have family members that have money, and to me, I don't believe in spending so much money on something.

So I was talking to my homeboy about it, and I was like, you know, if I'm gonna buy something, the monograph is gonna be only because they're gonna know if it costs to a hundred dollars, they're gonna because theyre gonn see it. I don't want just a leather black leathers. I felt like the y s l like he'll was tasteful and not that much. And he's like no, he was like, real, Nias know when you have a

certain kind of time. I'm like, well, I don't know, I don't know a bit start walking down the street with well, actually why I saw doesn't have the very around front with a certain kind of thing. But anyway, okay, Nine is for what in your life do you feel us frightful? Ten? If you could change anything about the your raise, that would be eleven. Tell take four minutes and tell your partner your life story and as much

detail as possible. I think that's a good one too. Um. If you could wake up tomorrow morning having gained one quality or ability, what would it be? Can I get into my side fake? Yeah? Oh so I would want to be able to teleport anywhere in the world. Wow, mine was totally different. I'm thinking of magical powers. Well, like,

what what abilities are you talking about? I was gonna say I would want like one quality I would want like I wouldn't want to be like super strong, Like I'm trying really hard to like build strength, Like that's something that's so important to me, like being able to lift myself up doing certain ships like that, and I feel like a failure every time, and so like my I T band has been sucked up. I haven't been

able to work out, so it's all upper body. I'm gaining weight that I can't do pull ups for ship. Like my upper body strength sucks. But my lower body these thighs strong most people are. I can squat and do body yeah, but that's how I have a lot of lower body strength. Um, except I still ain't right In thirteen, if a crystal ball could tell you the truth about yourself, your life, the future, what would you want to know