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talk about that later in the episode. So thanks again Sophia Grade for sponsoring this week's episode. Now let's get on with the show. So it's Monday yet again, and we are in the building the people who make your Monday so freaking amazing. Girl. Anyways, it's horrible decisions. Y'all know this is your girl, Mandy B. And I do want to give a shout out to all of y'all listening.
I know we kind of had a back and forth, but again, I know most of y'all are at your desk because we have hard working listeners and followers, So whether you're at your desk, you're working overnight. The truck drivers did say shout out for giving a shout out to the truck drivers, and then for all of y'all who listened to us on the plane and on your road trips with your families. I do want to give a shout out to our mutual friend Dubbs. I was
hanging out with her last weekend. She says she listened to the abortion episode with her mother and it led them to have like a really deep conversation. So I'm just glad that our episodes are bringing you guys to have these conversations with your family members, you know, and why we like be holes and ship. This episode ain't gonna be as hollish, so we're gonna I mean, it's that gonna be as who wish, Like we are sitting across someone who is married. So so okay, I mean,
well around of applause, y'all. We have the infamous. You're kind of infamous. Infamous. Um, she's an author, guys. You guys may know her for her beautiful eyes and curly hair. On the ground. Could she'd be giving us space? Baby? Um? She is? Also, can I say relationship x spur because you say sex sexologists? What's that degree you guys? Yeah? What is the sexology? I like antimacy experts, I like an umbrella term. Sexologist is my like scholastic term, And
go ahead, and drop the names we got Shambo. So I do want to give a quick shout out to San. I had said something on this podcast recently that a few people took to heart and maybe you don't even realize when you said it. Yeah, so Shan said to me, Um. I was telling her how I was dating someone, and I felt like, sometimes my life will never having this podcast won't find me love, Like, you know, people are gonna meet me and think I'm too wild and whatever.
And she's like, the next time you meet someone, you know and therefore you they're going to tell everyone about how how wild you are and love it. Not how wild you are and be ashamed of it, but like how wild you are and how amazing it is. And it really meant a lot to me because in the moment, I've always thought, oh my god, I have to hide and then let it out. And she's like, no, someone's gonna love all of that. When have you ever felt you had to hide when a podcast? Yeah, dating, dating
is hard. I'm not gonna lie in the room with you, right, Do you think I think there's a people listening? Yeah, no, it's different. It's different. And then like, I'm not gonna lie. Like when I meet someone to think of what episode to even send them, I'm automatically like, oh ship, what thet no? So and like so even with talking about dating and you even mentioning that, like the guy that I just most recently mad, he had no idea what
I did. Um, I split in his MS and so we started talking, yes I did, Oh, I'm it's gonna manifest y so on Instagram, I split in his dems and we were talking um briefly and I was like, yeah, he's like, so what do you do? We had the whole career talk. I told him I'm leaving my job to podcast, but at the point he didn't know what my show was about. So here he goes. He's like, I'm not gonna lie. When you first told me that, and then when you can get your page, I was
ready to see booking info. I thought you were just one of those and I was like, oh, well, they know. And then we like got on the phone and he was early reading the titles and on our YouTube at the same time, and I'm just like red in the face and he's like and from there he like shouted me out on his platform and he's like I'm like, he's like, I love what you do. He's like, I feel like I can grow from you with the tour.
He's like, what you're doing, I wish I could do so like us having these back and forth conversations, like I'm enjoying talking to him, and he's much older and we disagree on fucking everything. So I don't know how that's gonna work, like literally, but it seems like you're into that. Um. Well, I think he's a very good conversationalist. So I'm like, we debate, and I feel like I can alter your mind because he's, um, what's the generation before us X? For what? But how old his baby?
How old his baby boomers? Boomers are over in the mid sixties. Oh no, he's not a baby boomer. Oh no, she's not that. Um but yeah, so he's Gen X then, and oh my god. His thought process is all like, sir, you're a little outdated in your mindset, but we're gonna work all this. It's like, because you know, by the way, I don't mean to be rude, Shan, I was take finishing up your quiz. Um we gonna talk about it.
Were she'd be feeling left up. Well, so guys, you know, I really felt like one day you would need me. I thought you and Jay just be like yo, come over, and I was just like, hey, I mean the day are you trying to her husband too? I feel this her thing, This is her thing every y I shouldn't get fired thing. I don't suck couples like that. I mean it's her thing to flirt with our guests and say she wants to suck them in their partners different.
But she won't know the different because look, look look at our camera. Me a last, he's lasting everybody on her things fairly. It's like, let me leave, been just paying me on what is my thing? Man? I don't know you're the Jesus, I don't you guess. I don't even know what that means. What does that mean? Jesus? What does the Jesus to the dick Jesus? What one is Merrow? That's the dark one. I'm not the Spanish one. I'm definitely the black one, just because I'm black. Anyway,
they're both black. No, he said, want of Spanish, but he's black. Well, I'm definitely not Latino. Alright, I'm just saying I want to be the black one, just like, if we're going off Dessie Child, I'm Beyonce. If we're going on Spice Girls, I'd like to be scary, Like, what is the problem? You're not but the black one of the group. It doesn't matter. I'm the leaded, Okay, Okay, on the um so we're gonna start off Okay, Michelle,
let's not. I would love to be the Kelly. Kelly's She's well at that's the point, you know, why you do that? Because do you always ever have an emoji crisis of like which emoji do I choose? It represents me? No? My mine is the purple, the purple emotion the thing though, but I'm like, I'm so pale sometimes that the purple feels like a privilege to me, Like I can't actually work for the purple one. Well, all of my friends say, the real people emojis that is too dark for me.
They be coming for me with my little one of my friends listeners of the show, who knows who mouse is? Whenever he's like skin, but whenever he sends emotions there black as fun. Mouse is not light skinned? Okay, let's not. Mouse is brown mosses. I wouldn't call mouse red like a red in the streets. He's brown. Well, we're gonna go ahead and get into our icebreakers. So we are going to break the ice with you just a little bit.
And because you are an intimacy expert. There's a lot of things going on in social media, and I want your input on this too, because we haven't even got to talk. We never get to talk like current events. But there's like mad ship going on with relationships. So the first one is going to be in reference to Diddy and Cassie. Oh, would you congratulate your ex on their new relationship and or baby on the way absolute?
It depends, I mean congratulate in my head, perhaps publicly you saw the public very public though, I mean she public were her man? I didn't know so so Cassie publicly? Other way around? Did he publicly of her in her new bow? Yeah, he said congrats. He should have done that. Now, that makes sense. I I thought it made sense too, mainly because there were rumors that he didn't want to give her a family. Yes, Oh, I see, I didn't
know that. And a second to that, like just losing someone that you love like you also, that might be a way to show gratitude for that relationship. Like if Kim didn't die, maybe he wouldn't have done that. Maybe he'll be a little more pretty. And I feel like that this is just a way where you're like I have to show love, I have to be this person, Like that's a good way to heal with Kim. After they broke up as well too, they were still all together. I feel like she never moved on. I felt like
she was always still apart. Well kids, yeah, they have mad kids. But I feel like she romantically moved on. She was on vacations with Cassie and did he Yeah, but I think she had her own thing on the side. I mean I'm not a Kim Porter expert. Yeah, I mean that she lived her own life. I think that did. He just creates this like all in the family foundation. Yes, I can look at how we embraced I thought. I thought his Instagram was great, like when I saw that
post it made. But so you would do that, yeah, Like if I was a public person like that knowledge, I would absolutely still like leave a comment or anything like that. And also the narrative people were creating around it would be so irritating if I were here not every someone said to me once I remember who it was. They were like, I think it's my old work husband.
He's like, you either Mary or you break up, right, And he's like, so it's always like most of your relationships fail And I was like, my breakups aren't failures. We just decide to part. You know what I'm saying, Like I've really Victorian perspective, it is, Yeah, but I can understand the theory of like feeling like single women can't give advice because they've never had a you know,
they don't have a husband or something like that. People will say that to me sometimes, like oh, both y'all ain got no naked And I'm like, but that doesn't mean that we haven't experienced love. That you don't consider yourself to be in a relationship when you're in a full blown relationship with somebody, I mean a long term, full blown, consensual, open communication, healthy intimate connection with somebody. I am, but I think that sometimes like saying this open,
saying those words freak me out. So I like saying single because I feel like once I start meeting people and I say open relationship, then they're confused on what that means. Well, so trying to educate them like the primaries, like I have a male and female primary, right, Like I saw someone that two years ago this weekend in Atlanta. I feel like open relationship is like the new kale. I just think it's like it doesn't grow. We is
not gonna cauliflower open relationships. It's not weird. Yeah, but cauliflowers like the new thing. Bitch is now rice, you can now do cauliflower mesh like you have said it, like it's a new I just like a relationship a lot of the times can have bad, bad stigma around it, right like Okay, well you know whose idea was it? Or it's just everyone always has these questions. So I just say they have primaries. But I mean, I don't say I'm taken because I don't really like that ownership
on that word. I like, I like this conversation because at least to the next question said, So this actually relates to what is going on with Mellow and La La. Do you stay with a man if he has a break baby or has a baby while y'all y'all are in a relationship. If you say, do you add the baby to your family bonding? This is such a complex question. It is. So this is asked because baby so La La is getting flak because apparently the baby that Carmelo had while they were on a break or so whatever
the timeline was of that. Um they are now back together and La La wants nothing to do with the baby he created outside. So that's that's where this question stems from. But I did get kind of piste off this weekend on Twitter. I'm like new to Twitter, and I saw people like talking to thank you about La La and like her decision making, and I'm like, why are people always so mad that you take somebody back? Why?
Why do we have so much entitlement? I don't think that there's really upset, Like from the tweets that I was saying, it's not that people were mad that she went back to him, but it's like it's kind of like if you go and you decide to data stripper, and then once you start dating, you're like, oh, I don't want you to stripping. It's like apparently been like she's said it apparently like in like a interview of some sort, but basically she does not want the baby
involved with her. Cayent and and mellow like she doesn't want a blended family. Basically right, it's a long life, though it's notions about forever. In like a linear way of dating, the average person died a lot sooner, or one of your partner's gone malaria, like you you were able to read malaria. Something happened, so it's like, yes they did, um, I think a joke about But I
think the point is it's a long ass life. If you just rekindle a romance that was so public, you have a billion different opinions about it, your family's opinion, your own perspective, and now you have to try to reblend that relationship as is and reconnect with your family and your kids. Now you got to add another person into the pot, because it wasn't as if they were
all cool this whole time. There's so much try to work out, so introducing that baby to his kid, having to all of that, like, yeah, I know sometimes like who you're right? You're right, And that's probably just what it is. Like she doesn't know how to process it and you have to think about something like that. It's not like you have experience with it before. Oh let me, let me go back to what happened last time. That's no, like, you don't. I'm thinking if I should say this or not.
But nobody else. But a friend of mine has a kid, kids like four years old. Baby daddy has another kid. She finds out from the internet, and she's like, completely, she found out from the internet. Girl. So she's like, yo, like, I'm not ready to tell my daughter this because I just really don't think she can imagine her daddy like. She's like, I don't think she understands love. I think
she's going to feel jealousy, left out, completely forgotten. And she's like, and I don't know if I can handle this. The guy's a ball player, so he travels a lot. And she's like, I think she already feels a little neglected, even though she has admitted he's a great dad. But she's like, I don't know if I can tell my kid this until she's old enough to understandsite another sibling.
I would want to tell them soon. The kids would be so excited to have another I think they they start to see like you nurturing the pregnancy, like when they start to realize their rooms getting moved, like when they start to see you physically make space based for someone else and move their ship out the way. But when that baby just shows up to play with you like you're excited, Yeah, that might be more of her thing that needs to ye like that, We're gonna go
ahead and get onto our vanillitious segment. This one is actually really interesting. I've found it on Twitter, so shout out to you guys who um at Wheezy and I and the Horrible pod page. In so many like news articles pertaining to sex, this one was really interesting, especially with us living in New York and dealing with the train um and I've shared on this podcast how I've witnessed us on a train. So apparently in Tokyo they
have um a trained pervert issue. I talked about this on an episode when I went where oh you talked about So there's a videos women only train, So there's women only trains, but for the ones that are co ed, apparently like the men in Tokyo are just so like perverted, Like there's actual video of men jacking off, standing really close and bumping their dick onto women, which is so
that's actually what happened to me. A guy like undid his pants and had his whole dick out on the back of my ass during rush hour and I didn't know until he had to step out. So I'm looking at this video and so they're trying to crack down in Tokyo with what to do? Yes, yes, Oh it was trauma and it was like my first really feeling violated in that way. And it even like sucked me up more, which is also kind of bad that it was a black man. And I don't know why, but
I only deal with black men. So like for a while, I was just like, like they fucking disgusted me. I was like so turned off. But they're trying to find a way, um to kind of get a hold of it. So these men in Tokyo are referred to as chicken. You know, I don't need knowing words c H I K A N. How would you say that? Don't put an accent too, because you know they go come for your ass. How would you say that when chick? I
don't know. So that is what they're called. But the app that they did, um that the app that Tookyo created is called Digi Police App. What a woman does is presses that app when she feels like she's being sexually assaulted or there's a perfet around her, and what it yells is like help me, police police, But in what I swear to God video and he's like hell, like nobody's so. So this app basically what it does is it alerts everyone around that there's a fucking pervert
that you feel sexually harassed. And basically like the police in the trains are tackling these men that are accused of this and they're getting like arrested for it, ticketed and all that, but this app is to help them feel safer. I guess that app just made me think about Lift. Have you heard about the Lift panic button? There's Lift just trying to create a panic button because
all these uber drivers. But here's the thing that I was thinking, there's a part of me that's concerned and worried for black drivers because I feel like you can just think about that be like, oh, I feel scared. You know what I'm saying, Like, well, in Tokyo, like you don't have the problem. In Atlanta have had a lot of women drivers too. I don't have some women drivers, but I mean one Carsmelo likely And then dude apologize me and said, do you want to cancel the ride?
I was like it's cool. It was like, I really need to go right. So he's like, what kind of music you like? And I'm like, you see these braids, you know you can go ahead and stereotype. Don't understand. But then like one of them stopped to get gas. I'm like, damn, this ratchet. So I could see someone pressing a panic button for that, and I feel like this could be very target against, you know, drivers of
color um. The other thought I just had with the train another thought, but what did the panic button do other than just gas? It tracks you, creates uh. I think police can be alerted and they're trying to figure out what they're gonna do with it. It doesn't exist yet. At least he did a great job with you. He got you, got into the car, he laid out the light land for you, said it smells like we do you want to cancel? He gave me. Appreciated that too,
he communicated. So this is the problem because the power of choice is a big deal. But here's also the problem with these And I'm not sure if you guys have noticed with your Uber and lift apps, it's been telling you to make sure you double check the license plate and asked the name. So basically in Atlanta, and I found out through cutty she talked to one of
the locals. So in Atlanta or whoever, whatever fucking hacker made this app, there's some sort of perverted app in the dark hole web that is allowing people to see who's getting picked up around in that area. So yes, So basically you'll have a car pull up and they can shout your name out because there's an app that's allowing them to see what rides are being picked up, and it gives them your information and name. So they're driving up like say that, they'd be like, we's and
you'd be like, oh yeah, thinking it's your car. And then this is someone who has not always checked the license late. But but in a lot of states they don't have front and back license plate like like they do in New York. So there's that and so up, and then I don't know if you saw, there was another one where her ride was just going off. She had to jump out of a moving car. He canceled the ride. He can't um he canceled the ride, kept driving, was trying to take her to like, uh desolated area
the childlock. You know, you could put the child luck on. I just think that it's definitely, um we need to be safe out here. I don't know how many times I've gotten into a uber and was ship faced drunk and passed out and they woke me up when I got home. That to me, now that I'm seeing all these things happen, I'm like, Okay, that's something I can't do it with. A driver was in a cab. I was actually on Instagram live shout out to the people
that were in this live. No bullshit, I'm drunk. I don't remember where I was leaving, and the guy was asking me such creepy questions that I started to get scared. Then when I actually opened the door and it was on child or, he locked it and I asked him why I was locked and he was like, well, people have to pay their fare. Totally made to end because I'm sure people the taxi taxi I could see making sense. So people on Instagram will like flip the camera to
take a picture of that. Um I D So people are writing me and they're don't have them drop you off right in front of the house. So he heard me give the initial address. I was like, you know what, drop me off on first and first, which is a few lots of way. He's like, no, no, no, no no, no, it's about terrain. Let me drop you off on the front.
I was like, I don't want to right here is good. No, I want to drop you out of the the front, make you're sure you're safe, and I'm like no, no. And then when I'm paying and he's like, oh, pretty girl like you, you don't have to worry about it. So fucking scary. The Tokyo thing. I posted the women only card and I said how do you guys feel about this? On my Instagram story story, and a lot of girls wrote and said, so women, Candid saw you, this is
fucked up. And at first I didn't really consider that at all women statistically sexually assault as frequently, and so I'm not gonna right not fan that women can sexually as all you do, but I do feel that I
could see feeling safer. This is also the case in the Philippines when I went, like ladies had to board all the way in the back of the train and then men kid get on, specifically during rush hour, like there was a women only cart and we had to go like there was police, Like no you have to go this way, Like there's whole lines in the Philippines
um for their trens. I just feel like we'd do a lot of work to avoid communication because the problem is that we have two different working definitions of consent. For some people, it's an enthusiastic yes, and for other people it's just attendance. Just you being in the vicinity, just you being around is consent in their minds, and we really don't approach that in the me too movement. I know if you guys had a ton of conversations with men and you're like, funk, I didn't know you
actually thought that way. Still, Like the notion that women play hard to get is like such a perfect strong Like men really believe that. They believe that majority of women say no as a tactic to get a stronger yes down the line. Someone we've had as a guest on this show, he didn't say it on our show, but he was like saying, because that we we we we had this conversation learning he said it somewhere else. He said, it turns me off, So like I have
to figure out what the consent is. He's like, that's a turn off to me. Trying to figure out the lines. Luck right right then we turned very we have to come to a unanimous definition of what consent is is a society, And then I think all these things are wonderful and they're awesome, but it's just us avoiding the discussion that has to be had about Like, hey, like you guys clearly need to understand where the line is and that has to be done culture to culture, person
to person. Seeing how far back we are right now, I still feel like in the discussion, do you feel like we'll see that in our lifetime? Yeah, but I think but as long as we could tell you to put in panic buttons and different trains and social media call outs like that, even that panic button to me seems like art imitating life. That's what we do right now. No, we we had a whole conversation. There's um Wee and I were talking about the sex button and how it
just made for couples. You press the button when you want to have sex so that they see it when it likes instead of just communicating I want to have sex tonight. Like, so there's all these ways, but even how do you think I'm thinking right now in this moment right. I mean we talk about consents so many times, so I'm like, when I don't get verbal yeses, what am I doing? Now? I realize I'm the one being the aggressive or basketball moving my own clothes. Yeah, so
you think you'll have problem? You know what. I got checked once for not exercising consent with people, and it was a moment for me to be like, no, one's above this. No. Consent is not a word. It's a literal ass language and there's many different meaning that. Like, so I used to take pictures with people who came up to me really sexually because I'm like, I talk about sex for it. We do that. But I'll tell
you we asked you. Remember what I said. I didn't like how people have been like touching me, and we get touched at our meet and greets, and we as you mentioned that, like okay, like thank you guys for asking, And a lot of people do like our consent conversation, so during the meet and greet, they'll ask, can I tell your ass kind of touch your boobs like they didn't have been the men, Yes, men have been so violating. What could so what did you do? So that was it?
I was taking these pictures, and then there was another it was like a sex panel. There's a doctor in the panel, and she like text me afterwards and was like, I just don't think you realize how uncomfortable some people looked like it just wasn't the picture when they say yes to a picture? What were you doing? I mean, I mean it might just be you know, I always like, yeah, yeah, inappropriate. Yeah. But it's the thing is I think because I'm a woman, people wanted to when I talk about but none of
us are above the learning about consents. Well, and it's funny that we just brought this up because those of you that didn't know ice Cream Shan's mouth was very close to mine. I can't with you, but one of there's a million pictures of me online that of the people you know, and just how you hut on every single couple and it's not special. Look, it ain't never
I do. You guys are really secure. While we brought this up though, on women not sexually assaulting, there is a case going on currently right now with one of my um husbands in my head, Vic Mensa. He just came out in one of his interviews and actually said that Tiffany Hattish sexually assaulted him. Um, and what she did was basically in saying bye, she ball checked him and grabbed his package. And so he's coming out and
saying that he felt sexually assaulted. She hasn't responded to it at this very moment um, but I'm looking forward to see kind of what she says. But she's also apparently been doing it. None of us can be above this discussion. We no because no, no one. So I think it's exciting. Um, we're gonna get into oh you want to tell you? In my book, we had a stripper come through and talk to us, and she said she leads every single interaction to strip club with consent,
Like how does she do that? Can I touch your shirt? Daddy? Like does it feel good when I do this to you? Like? Do you like the way that my boobs look before she puts it in their face? Like she leads every single action needs to get Yeah, that's it also creates a culture amongst them. So they asked they never do without asking her, and she says even when she picks up dudes, she'll come and she'll walk by and say, do you mind if I join you? She'll never just
sit down so like that. We think of consent as the button. It's not. It's not the like police to remember it can be sexy. Don't think like you. I talk about this moment where it is, it's kind of hot. I would want But the guy that I fucked jeeves somebody remember the story. But he asked me if he could taste me, if he could take off my panties, um, if he could lick me like literally everything, and when he was about to suck me, and he told me to tell him that I wanted it, and that I
realized in that moment that was it for him. That was his consent. Yeah, oh yeah, My My consent with the guy I'll be fucking is just me coming over because I let him know in the text message I want to say your nuts um and I put the nut emoji. Girl. We I swear up childish but he does like he doesn't like it, but he also likes his nuts flick. So when I say nuts nuts, I
will show you. That's exactly what I wrote to I said, I want to write squirrel back bitch, no but no, but no, but no. But sometimes he'll write me and say, yo, come flet these nuts that's how we talked. We could call them nuts fuck you hope. Anyway, we're gonna get into our kink of the week UM, and this one is super exciting UM because it's one that we actually mentioned. Oh my god, maybe in like the first ten episodes.
We think I got an email, um and they offered us four hundred dollars UM for these what they did. And I'm man, we adn't take a bitch. I could have used that bad Damn. I'm rached now, So it might be a little bit. But the kink of the week for this week is underwear fetishism. It's a sexual fetishism relating to undergarments and refers to preoccupation with the sexual excitement of certain types of underwear, including panty stockings,
panty hose, brawls, or other items. Some people can experience sexual excitement from the wearing, while others get their excitement when observing, handle, or smelling the underwear worn by another or somebody putting underwear honor taking it off. Some may still use underwear to get satisfaction. Not only does this include physical contact with the garments or their wearers, but also includes arousal by printed or electronic images with depictions
of underwear. We brought this motherfucking Kink of the Week to you because of Sophia gray Um. They are the sponsored by a fucking creepy as lucrative nasty webs and I'm excited. So they did offer us to sell our panties, So I think I am going to put a pair of panties up there. I have no I swear to guy. So that's actually my question for the Kink of the week. How much would you sell your panties for? Okay, but no to a buyer like as Wheezy from a horrible decision?
Yes you why you gotta maybe? How much would you sell your pennies? To be honest to be a thousand books? I don't think that I'm rich by the same, but I didn't want to say a thousand and it sounds too hot. I don't need a thousand dollars though, but I feel like I can't make it for a few hundreds because I don't need it impact my life. It's going to impact their life in a positive way. It has to be a mutual. What's the part I think I was six? So these these valenciagas that I've been
white and they're only six seventies. Yeah, they're only six seventies, so I would go for six seventy. Um, let me sell these panties seventy dollars worth. No, well you know so no, I mean and on this site. So I did go on there. Um they can request like ladies they can request if it's out the gym. And then the women who sell their panties and ladies. For you guys, I do want you all to know, y'all can go
on there and sell your panties. And what I've noticed for the women, they'll put if their milks the size they are, they'll put if their college students. So men do specify the type of woman that they want to wear a more knowing, like it's a certain type of like you want to kind of know about them, like you want somebody. I want somebody with box. And then by the way I went looking on it, not everybody has a face, so you can be you shouldn't make
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and check it out. Use our promo code w d P and get thirty percent off of all memberships. Now let's get back one with the show. This girl that I know so that she had like it was a fun buddy, but it was like an arranged fun buddy. That's my situation, right, that's my situation, escort. But they came together to meet in the city just to have sex after like meeting on some funk. Okay, So he's prepped her and was like I really want to eat your ass, and like that was like the big focal
point of the night. Like when I come into the hotel room, I want your ass spread open, Like I just want to eat your ass, right, away, and so sure enough she got to hotel room first, busted over in the bed. He came in eight her ass, and then afterwards he was like, I was really really happy, like followed my instructions, but it seemed like you showered first,
and I kind of wish you didn't. You just posted a meme like that, So about the pussy had almost a thousand comments because like, some people don't want a freshly clean pussy. Funny that, like you're talking about that meme. I had a conversation this weekend one one of my friends, Rashida, and I was talking about how I really hate when many pussy and they're like and they're done. I'm like, I can only understand that if it was a really foul smelling or snak. She was like, funk that you're
down there, you're committed. Nigod agree, and it's like any other tady, she'll get used to it. Yeah before wait dog, you're just you get grocer and grocer every fucking episode. First of all's bloody pussy. Now it's pissy pussy. You ain't bloody pussy. Everybody knows. It's like like it wasn't you know what, I'm not doing this with you real quick, y'all. Y'all know we recorded right, you know, scissored on our pay Can you help me pull out audio? And Chris,
I'm going to sneak the audio in this. Now are you eating blood pussy? Now? Go ahead with your pisty pussy. Go ahead. All I'm saying is we were drunk. We were about to have this reason with this dude. It was me collect so we're drinking. We already like we're kind of fucking She runs the bathroom, she comes back. I was like, okay, she ain't gonna down. I still
like a tang. What does piss taste like? Weezy, since you're out here looking honestly like so like Corona, I'll convince Corona tastes like fist and I don't know if it tastes like but if it tastes like anything, it tastes like Corona tasted. No, I'm not, because I don't know where your mouth has been, ma'am, and mine was
just on some nuts and ask this morning. So okay, Well, I will say too, because we just had such a nasty anal story from the guys from dad hats and bow ties, I will say so I had antal sex this morning, and I will say he like kind of gave me my kudos. He's like, and he didn't make a mess, and I was like, I didn't, you know, I didn't um no, but like we were on his couch and so and I was wanting him in my ass a general crapshoot with that you don't go as well.
So here's the thing that I mean. I felt like I knew my my body. I didn't have coffee nothing before. I want to fu him and I had eight way before. So I was like, you know, I ain't had no wet ship lately or nothing like that. I can't be proud to have a clean booty hole just pointed. I mean, so just for contacts, the guys that we had on tell the story about anal right, and because no shame and a shitty g that's all I'm saying for people
who have a little bit. Wasn't a little he said, he took his dick out and he goes, she sh and then he's like, we had to take the sheets off the bed. She couldn't even keep them. And he's like, and you know what, real ship? I kept going. So I'm excited to get into this conversation and with shan Um, I think it's very prevalent to a lot of you listening, especially as we preach um and you try to segue
from the ship conversation to what you know. So if y'all have a casual sex with niggas, this is the conversation that happened with them. So the conversation that we're going to have today is dating with dominance. And I really like this even just reading through through your book. Um, you have a podcast as well coming out well with the featured of the book. Yes, Yes, let's talk about what's your book about. There we go, let's just basically
like set yourself up for success. Like if you want to if you came to me and said I'm shit at cooking, there would be a tried and true process
to get you to feel apt in that area. If you felt like you were doing bad and math, etcetera, etcetera, Like we would take that person and give them confidence through strategy, through knowing themselves, through the help of mentors, through practice, through practice in low interest environments, through trying out some new ship until you found what your zone was. But yet when it comes to dating. The advice we get people like just be yourself. Like what, because you're
writing a dating book. What is your take then on books like Steve Harvey's Dating Book or I think like a man, act like a woman, or whatever the thing is like, because yeah, strategy, it's a strategy you're looking probably for like to the quiz about to take a modern monogamous or traditional monogamous relationship with an older person in gen X and up? So what is it like? The Rules, for example, was a book that was written by Ellen Feene that was passed around for a long time.
It was a strategy, but that it's a one size fits all strategy, and so I think that my book is really just more about like women getting to the driver's seat of your love life. I look at it like dating in nineteen is like a motherfucking Nascar. It goes a hundred miles an hour. It could do some crazy tricks, but people don't know how to drive, and so just get into the driver's see if your love life, get to know yourself, know some strategies, and use some
psychology by yourself. You know, that's just I took six women who were just like chronically single but it was important for me to pick six what is chronic? Sing just always goes did always being picked last always in situation sign these women did you reach out? And I interviewed over three women for this because it was important
for you. I didn't want to find a woman whom like, nothing in her life was going well, because at the end of the day, it's not the be all and end all for us of comic relationships are a piece of the pie. And so if you have other ship to figure out right now, I'm not going to ask you to devote yourself to a six month program with me. So I was looking for women specifically who were like bomb and every other category, but this is the one
area they just weren't getting the results they wanted in. Okay, I like that. And in the end one of them got to have sex with like their dream celebrity mate. It was like, really really crazy, don't ask her who, because I know you'd be like, I don't wait, what do you wait? Like she'd let an intention like just you didn't do no like who? You say your celebrity crush was? Oh, I got so many no, So so
I really like one. I really loved Todd dollars sign he could get oh right now, bitch with Kalievla could get it wrong and I'll even go wrong, but he could in all my holes. Uh oh, well, that's what I say. That's what I told this nigga when I got all my Can I really tell you? Pause? It was the first time I ever had this feeling in my life, and I felt like I wasn't in control. So I haven't sucked. I've been on a drought. It was like five and a half six weeks. That is
a drop. I just caught you on the day that you had sexist more about later, I thought, oh no, but out of a drought, I haven't sun. I went to the Bahamas, no Dick. I went to Toronto, no Dick. I went to South Carolina, no Dick. I just have not haven't getting Dick here. He be hit me up at ten am. I'm like, Nick, I'm at work, so
we just haven't our schedules having a line. So today I'm go and fuck him, and bitch, I start shaking and have an orgasm as he's entering me, Like the whole dick isn't even in there, just the head, and I'm like coming shaken like to where I'm pushing him out and I'm like, why am I coming like this?
For like eight to ten seconds, bitch I was orgasming without him even being fully inside of me anything else that was I had sucked a dick for about the twelve minutes maybe fifteen, and that would say his debut with that, because were you touching yourself when no, I mean I was leaking, but that was just off sucking
his pussy, sucking his pussy, sucking his dick. And then I literally turned around on the couch and he went to inswer me, and bitch I was flailing like a fish, and I felt like he just probably thought he was the goddamn man, and I felt some I couldn't stop shaking, but I was shaken as if as I shake when he makes me come. I was like, nig you're not even on the way amy I was. I was embarrassed. I'm not gonna like this is an incredible I was like, funk,
I can't. It was like if a nigga like bus before he even get in a pussy, That's what I did. And I didn't continue. I did, and then I I kept going. He was like don't have that refractory period that man had. We don't. We don't, and so did not a multiple orgasm hate my second orgasm with him like four times in one session on the question I really need to know you and your hobby are so fucking hot? What out of your book? What do you define your relationship as? Our relationship is free, I think,
and free is a part of the quiz. It's right, look look at the So if you guys, um, we're gonna put the link my stories on bitch I came and then and then yeah, by the and then I told him to getting my ass and yeah. Then we went again someone that you have like even first six years. No, we just I did, just don't her. This is what we're doing? Are we doing this? She's like, no, no,
we just be fucking. But it's like such a good dick that I literally wouldn't allow myself to fun anyone else because if I sucked bad dick within that drought, I probably would have killed somebody. I was going to be miserable. So I literally was telling him like I was like, I can't funk until I fuck you, nigga, I'm in a drop. He's like, man, I said, not in New York. I don't have no other niggas. He
was like, well in other places. So I had to list down where I've been trying and said, no, no, dick, and none of these. I'm waiting on you fuck me nigga, but no. So if you guys don't know, Shambooty has created you, You manifested and created this whole quiz. Can't just say great marketing, dog, it's so good because I'm so fucking good. They're like better than BuzzFeed, so don't say that right now. They're better than what's kying a fucking fast food Friday? Am. So I'm look, I'm not
gonna lie. I took the quiz and I was like, okay, I feel like I know what I am. And I was actually slightly different than what I thought. UM, So I didn't try to What are the relationship types that you could be considered? You could be casual dating, which is essentially like no ties, no nothing, I see you, Whatever happens happens. It's transactional. It's like going to McDonald's buy a hamburger, go home doesn't mean McDonald you should
next day. Then there's casual noncommitted dating where it's situation ships. Essentially you don't necessarily want the full gamut of the relationship experience, but somewhere kind of close to there. I mean, that's what That's what I thought I was going to be. My guest for you is something different, yeah, some different than you could do. Traditional monogamy. Then there is modern monogamy is one person at a time. Traditional monogamy is
one person for life. Okay, yeah, that's about right. And then you have monogamysh free relationships, open relationships, and then mine, so mine is considered mine is considered free. Inference between free and open. Free is essentially that you could fit inside a multiple relationship style depending on your partner, which which I completely agree with. And I love how you started it. So she broke this down, and I want to read this to you guys, because maybe this is
something that you may actually be as well. So for free relationship, you are DTF by that. She does not mean down to fuck, but in stead, you're down to figure it out. And when I read that, especially after telling you, I'm now talking to someone who is so out my norm but I could see myself kind of whatever he's into I'm cool, um. So your relationships may swing from monogamous to open to polly to back to monogamy, and you're down for the ride as long as it's
what's best for you and your partner or partners. Your relationship is not defined by the rules or titles you chose in the beginning, but instead by how each other's partner feels at any given time. You like to leave space for the unexpected, and you trust that your partner can handle that responsibility as well. In order for this relationship to thrive, you must be professional at communication and self discipline. So I feel like that's why this would
work with me and him. He's super communicative and I'm communicative as well, and like we've been a FaceTime and every day. Don't even do that with niggas um. But it says by saying yes to a free relationship, you are saying yes to circumstances and arrangements that you may
not have been in before. Of course, you can opt out and in time when your partner has pushed beyond your comfort zone, but understand that since you haven't placed any restrictions on them, they're the high probability that this could happen. So Wheezy said that she also got that, which that's no surprise. I think that you've even throughout the different relationships that you've talked about on this podcast, they've all kind of been different, um in a sense.
So and it is kind of just with what your partner is open jealous being has been different too, Like I've noticed where it was more monogamous that I was more jealous, really, yes, because I think there was more restriction, like we could only do it together, so if there wasn't together in my mind right, whereas like with the partners I have now, I don't know. I can't I can't explain how comfortable I am. I feel very safe, Like you know, the person I'm dating was out this weekend,
fucking like I knew you were happy for them. Yeah, And it's a weird, crazy feeling that it's like okay, guy's missy and like fun little teasing jealousy but not real anger um and that I'm just not really used to I would even say I would be okay, but I did, I wasn't for sure and how I meant it, And I think right now I just feel so satisfied with the openness and the communication opposed to before with monogamous ship. Knowing that we would only fund someone else together,
they would lie about anything else. Right, you wouldn't tell me about these other interactions because you knew that wasn't in the agreement. So where there is no restrictions, there is nowhere to get angry. Right, you know you can do what you want to do and what you need to do. So you're married, Can I ask how you and your husband started dating and what kind of relationship
role you guys played with each other. Yeah, we started as fund buddies, um, and so that I think was just a great foundation for us because it was again it was a clearly transactional of like this is what I want, this is what you want, and we did that so successfully. I actually didn't interview once where I was like, I didn't even believe in friends with benefits. But now I would honestly make the poster, I would
run the campaign. It was such a great experience long Um. Honestly, we didn't define a relationship until he moved in with me. He moved from buddies to him moving in because he didn't he stayed in. He was like in a transition period where like his roommate was moving out, so you need someone were to stay. I'm like, come and stay with me, and he was like that's weird. I'm like
no, no no, no, it'd be fine. And then once he was staying with me, like two weeks in, he was going to look for new apartments and I was like, I'm gonna be honest, like I do not want you to leave. At that point, I was like, now, this is something different. But I think because I was so strict about this is the relationship that we've defined and
this is all that I'm looking for. And I made a lot I did this full last Um private podcast on this, like all the psychological tricks I played on myself to ensure that, like I could make this a successful Friends with Benefits. So it truly wasn't until we lived together that we're like, Okay, we can't just be that anymore and there's something different. How long were your Friends with Benefits October to July? Oh damn, almost a year? Yeah.
I appreciate that. I like that. There's a lot to be said of experts who say like, oh, if you started like this, it's gonna end like or or you know things like that. It's a pro move. I'll say that, like at the end of the day, you gotta know your discipline, and like we never had sleepovers ever. We he didn't My birthday happened in April. I didn't tell him. I was like, what's the point of my buddy knowing my birthday? You know? My family was over, Like I
can't see this week my families here. There was never a confusion in my mind of like my mom and dad should know you. Like, there was just a real compartmentalization and so I think, if you want to do that, you have to really be on top of it. Two weeks and then you were like, I have to keep them. It was like I think honestly, I mean, it was like two thousand and fifteen, so it's like a bit foggy in my mind now, but I really genuinely don't think.
And he told me he loved me. I came to New York and I was spending some time with this dude in New York that I saw all the time. It was super cute, really fun, probably gay and not quite sure, but right, he's so fine. I see. I think actually moved to l A but I spent some time with him, but I still like told Jared because we were like, we were still only having sex to each other, so he was my only person that was sucking.
But I was still seeing other dudes. I just want to write a buy him seeing this dude in New York. He's like, yeah, it's cool. So I was on Twitter and I was like coming going back to the to the airport, and I was like, man, I'm learning so much about love, not being an aeroslove, Like by having all these great compartmentalized relationships that are not necessarily romantic love, I'm learning more about myself. And then he text me and he was like, oh, it is our love not romantic.
And I was like, but do you love me? And he was like, yeah, I love you. And that was the first time that he said it. And I was like, oh, ship, and I don't even think in my mind I allowed myself to think about loving him because of the relationship dynamic that we had, and at that moment I was like, yeah, I love you too. And then next shortly thereafter we
moved in and etcetera. So your story makes me think so much of kind of where I am currently dating and it's actually um the question that I have kind of just even wrap up dating in general. Is there all wrong or right way to date? So I asked this because even the guy that I'm talking to now, like, I'm kind of like, Okay, I know, I don't really if I go see him because he lives in Chicago. So I'm like, Okay, if I go to Chicago, do we have sex the first time in there? Do I not?
If I want this to be long term? Do I give it up that quick? Or do I make him come to New York and then we go back and forth before we decide as more like And so I'm in this position where Okay, maybe the things in the past haven't worked. They've led the situation ships that have gone on for years, but they never really manifested, say anything else. So I feel like that is the definition of insane or insanity is to continue doing the same
things over and over again expecting a different result. So that's where I am now, where Okay, I'm dating? Was I dating wrong? And is there a right way to date?
Should like? Dating wrong is when you put yourself in a position to not be your coolest, most awesomest, sexy, down to earth empowered confidence self when you start putting yourselves in positions where you don't feel comfortable and now you're jealous, or you're weird, or you're quiet um or you're starting to take away privileges and feeling that that's going to get you the results that you want. When you don't feel like you can be fun and fucking
cool anymore, that's when you're dating wrong. And so that's why you answer that. That was a great answer, because I think what's so great about you saying that is when someone realizes they want more, they start being like, well, now this and what I need you to commit? I gotta be wifey materials. So they start to take away the things about themselves that they feel like a man
may push them away for, which is fine. I mean, like, there's no right answer that because the things that not everyone could do abody relationship, and not everyone wants that. And so if you know, look, if I get a situation with something, I sleep over with them, and now we're not advancing the intimacy, I'm going to start to feel weird around them. Don't sleep over with them, like
only you don't go to subway sandwiches expecting lobster. If somebody is like I'm giving sandwiches out, go for a fucking sandwich and if you want something more, and they're saying, we don't provide that, you know, find somewhere else to go. So I say that, but there's no right, you know, but everyone has their own their own threshold what they're
looking for. And even with what we these going through and how she's how we both kind of been with this podcast now and pretty much being so vulnerable and letting all of our information now, it is refreshing that like we talk and he knows exactly what I talked about. We we just we just had the conversation last night because we were talking about UM like he shared it
on his pro platforms. Yes, he already like he's like, I'll showing to you out on so I'll show you him Like, well, yeah, but we were talking about his UM just last relationship and how like he'll say when he's uncomfortable with something, and we even talked about he's like, I know I'll probably get a nickname if we like continue, like we're talking and he's like you, I feel like he's like, well, I've already told him, like get nickname um and so I'm trying to get creative with it
before I give him one. But he was like, I already know, like this is a part of your life, and so if I'm going to move forward with talking to you, that's something I'm gonna have to accept it. If I ever feel like something does make me uncomfortable, I'll tell you. But that's gonna be something that we communicated about. But he's like, I see what you do, and he he just sees that we're so successful at it, and so he's like, I can't even be mad. So
I like that exactly what you said. I'm like, Okay, think the more we grew to like at first, a few months in, I didn't feel as secure as I do right now. The money Now, I feel like we have accolades. Yes, you know what. I'm like, HBO, just know this is like Rihanna Plissy. It has been good to like be with someone that like understands it, loves it,
and wants to like help you. You know what, if you try to replicate your career journey in your romantic life, I think you would find yourself in an incredible position. It's what I've been it's kind of what I've been doing now and I'm getting like such a good response, like I love it. I'm I'm me like, I'm probably gonna put my wig on on FaceTime with him today.
I didn't have to send like he hadn't see it all my pictures, so I'm like, yeah, just you know, I'm gonna look different every time you see me probably, Um, just be prepared, Just be preparing. I do. I'm excited that we're kind of talking about this level of communications. Who got my homemat? We'll do both? Okay, we can do both. We got we got time, Brianna shout out the podcast studiving us some extra minutes in here. But y'all don't get it. We specially y'all. So I gotta
stay all time. And X writes me today, I'm not going to say his name. Does he have a nickname? He does? I don't want to say I'm not. I want to say, oh yeah, because I don't know where they're at right this right now here it goes him and I are great, really care about him in lovel because they just had a sex a couple of months ago. So he says, possible, t M. I but I have to tell you this telling me about the girl's dating.
She's been sending me memes from the Horrible Decisions Instagram and then send me YouTube clips, and now she's gone as far as to say she wants us to go to a show together. She has no idea Wheezy is my ex that I told her about, right because he says my name, but he doesn't say Wheezy. Mind you. He's been at every show we've had except the first. I said, bro, He goes right. Now, she's working from the top down, so all she hears about his scissors in Beard Bay. What do I do when she gets
to me, I said, this ain't real? Is she black? And he goes yes. He says she's a sweet girl. I don't want to taint something. I know that she really enjoys. She has a really difficult job, loves the content. I can't make her insecure about hearing about the time we spent. I worried that she'll question herself or compare herself to you, whether it be sexually, aesthetics, et cetera.
That is my main concern. We got on the phone, He's like, I've let it gone on so long now, knowing that she's playing it, and I don't say anything that. I feel like, how could I even tell her? Now he says he needs to. I know he needs to. I said that. I told Fellam Bay that immediately. This about the second time he came over, he kept bringing up I said, oh, nigga, that's I'm just gonna tell you.
That's the nigguy, So can you please not bring him? Yeah, And so like this nigga was like on his Instagram bringing up like you listen to him, like really bringing this nig up to me and I'm like, yeah, he in my tunes and like still bringing him up. Then started bringing up how he dresses, like y'all, I was listening to this nigga when I was locked up, and I'm just like, Okay, this is getting uncomfortable now, just
so you know. Yeah, And then when we stopped on that nigga met the nick in the club and they got a picture together on Instagram. I'm like, this is so uncomfortable. Someone that Beard baby fucked. I am a crazy fan of and I'll still be posting her ship. I don't give a fun. Yeah, So what do you think? How do you think she should there's no other advice. No, he has to tell her right because to your point, it's going to get revealed, and it's also making him uncomfortable.
You can tell you. He said that he was walking in. We run on the phone for like ten minutes. She's like, dude, He's like, I walked into my apartment. She's cooking, and I can hear you. Are you kind of getting off on this? No, Like I really love and care about him, I don't want any I don't want it for I don't because it's every scenario. He compared her love for
horrible decisions to me and Jesus in Meryl. Oh lord, we know you obsessed with I am Jane in Miami just to see a me beard Bay and says, we out. But here's how much I love it. If I found out that, like, I don't. I guess it's different for me, but I don't know if I would care. But he feels like it's really going to ruin it. And on another level, I talked about every detail of our relationship. This is someone that yeah, he was he was talking about for quite quite a few months. So she's about
to get to it. And then you didn't let a few details slad about his arts, yeasts, and then what he looked like this a little bit, so she gonna be like a white niggah. No. But it what's even weirder about it is like he was just saying that, Oh god, I'm assuming at this point maybe she knows it's me, but I can only I'm taking this as a guess. Him and I were into a lot of b D S M. What if she isn't and what if she knows that there's this part of him and
they haven't gotten there yet. I think that's awesome. Well, he needs to go ahead and find out what episode the fun she owned, and he needs to go ahead and be ready to just I didn't know what to do.
I was like, let's start from the game. You know what this is is like a classic rom com, like and are seeing the whole thing happened, you know when you watch a romantic comedy, and like the lie begins in the beginning, and we watched the whole relationship form, but we know it's based in the lie, y as if you were we understand why that person lie, But when that plot twist happens when they find out like
how could you lie to me. Were like, you can't understand, Like Jim, don't you stay that look, but this could be a show for us, bitch, let's write it down that we got to pitch this ship. She's don't be like, we are not. No, no, she said she was the last time you brought anyone that you were involved with, you thought we was all getting sued. So no, we're not. We're not. She was gonna go crazy. We're to know more of your lovers in here. We we have real
money now. One time and she tried to see as well. We was broke. Lord knows what someone like lawsuit like. Literally while she was sitting here right, she was ready to sue loud speaker network everything, and we was like not. She started that. I was like, she's doing wheezy, but she is soon a horrible decisions. I don't know you bitch. We're gonna say it's going to suck. So I do want to get into this homemail before we get out of here. UM and I want your health specifically because
you're the intimacy x UM. So this one it says this help and I think this is really good. We talked about dating communication. This is bedroom communication. So, ladies, I am in a sticky situation. I am currently married and my husband and I are very open sexually. We've engaged in threesomes and much more. But recently my husband has been into anal to him. It started with us having drunk sex one night and him inching me down
to touch his butt. No biggie there. I was trying to see if he would let me, and he did. He's been taking it further and further. This only happens when he's drunk. Last night, he grabbed my butt plug I use it once anal is not for me, and told me to use it on him. He got in doggy style position for it and all uh. I was surprised. It wasn't painful. I fingered him before, and the butt plug isn't super big. But I don't know. I don't think he's gay, but this is going too far from
my liking and I am beyond uncomfortable. I don't want to shame him, but this is too much. This only happens also daring drunk sex, very confused plus turned completely off any advice. Sounds like it only happens when he's drunk because he's too worried about telling you because you're gonna act like this, Yeah, I mean the end of the day. It's like women have multiple ways of orgasm
ng some men. I don't know if it's the exact equivalent, but like, of course twin to the clitterist is the penis head and the anatomicals win to the g spot is the prostate. And so men who have prostate orgasms will say, like, I don't orgasm from penetration, but men who have prostate orgasms, like, every dude needs to get fucked in the ask, it's the most incredible thing in the world. And so for him, this guy has the
ability to get orgasms from annual penetration. The question the question that I wanted doing it with you, but but the question that I want to derive from this was for our listeners who have been in long term relationships. When you're with someone and you meet them there one way and now they've been together, they're now married, and now he's wanting to try something different, how does that conversation go when your partner is wanting to try something
that we're just I would hate to have. Yeah, be grateful that he's open for that, and also to like don't do that sex negative shaming ship. I know, the whole automatically going to thinking, I know he's not gay, So girl, why you said it? Yeah? Why did you say it's can? I be honest? Why I believe she's uncomfortable and saying it's too much is because she feels
like he's gay. Women have almost a worse like homophobic shaming. Well, it's still a cultural perpetuation, like when amber Rose came out with Kanye, Like that was the same thing that we did, so we still that happened in that movie recently with Chris Rock, right when the guy was getting like tampons in the ass and it's this big joke. It's like, it's not funny. It's just a way of experiencing pleasure. It's not funny, it's not I mean, it's just like it's a way of experiencing pleasure. It's a
valid form. You like, probably can you can you stop talking now? Because you sound like my text messages to these niggas, and I don't want them thinking, you know, I mean, this is what I'd be telling these things, like listen, it's okay, I don't think you're gay, Like, let me just play with that. Basically, girl, stop sing? Do you and Jared have three simms or what? Look? See here we go? Are your options more like separate
or linked together? We talked about this that like, I don't think that the reason why we are attracted to the open concept is because we want to do all things together, because for me, it's just like, for example, for this girl, for example, she really hated the whole anal thing. There's a bunch of communities that just focus on that fisting itself is like a fetish alone, and weould be at her fists and pussies. She's fisting. I
put three fingers in four. You said, your whole hand was like this anal fisters And so there's kind of how she'd just been taking away these stories because she really mist It was just like you know, and then she was like, give me another one, and then there's another one, and I was like, her whole hand was in the pussy. I didn't, I mean, but it was like this type of fisting, bitch, it was still the fistle. Were you there? Man? You said you told us. I
told you, look, we gotta get the sound. Give July is mom for editing, and it ain't happen. Oh, this goes July one, therefore it's technically a June edit. I got this. Uh no, But before we get out of here, Shan, where can they find you? When does your book drop? What's the website? And where can they take the personality quizzes? Let's favorite If you go to the game of Desire dot com slash, let's go, that's the commitment quizzes there.
Pre order is there, and also you have to submit proof of purchase order to get a bunch of other cool perks. I have my podcast. You can get first paging pages of the book. You can get a phone call for me. You can get a one hour session with me. You can also get a vibrating necklace depending on how many books you order. What is vibrating? Oh,
vibrate in my bag for you today? Oh damn, you ain't throw able to Also um, if you guys, just don't remember that all of that information is going to be in the description of this episode as well as if you just go and I'm just gonna shout it out because I'll be on air scrolling lesson um Shan booty on Instagram. It's in her bio, which is where this time. This is the time. But we would never have a three sim so you gotta have a step No, okay, you guysn't even join hands just now? Was here I
felt that? Yeah that's funny. It's funny. Hey expert, Hey, we do not be You are not going to therapist us right now? Okay? Actually that would be a great secondary. How about people have been asking for a therapy episode, didn't you? But I don't want it to be like real, like I wanted to be a softer more. You don't get soft when we really get to talking, bitch, it gets loud. I don't want that. I want like, how
do you think you can improve? Like congratulate each other on like something you're proud of that the other one is doing differently. I'm bored already. Anyway, Is there anything else? Again? When does your plug your ship? Bro? July? And I will say I will do for anybody who pre orders before July if you put in the promo code horror, but I will give you an extra book. Yeah I like that. So now y'all got Christmas gifts, y'all have
birthday gifts, y'all got casual dating gifts. So because they bought type it in No, in real life, for real, this is what you have to get again. I'm also going to read the book because I'm currently dating, so I want to be dominant in my dating life and I'm taking short all all the things. Okay, yes, do yes, thank you? So you don't like reading, you want to just listen? Just just trying to be shady. I do
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