Ep 79: Dating Do's feat Sam Whiteout and Jessie Woo

seeing it come out of my mouth. Come on. Text some of those was allowed text some of it out put that's it, that's it, No take it out. You feel that, Yes, I feel that, my heart feel that, my thought feel that. Share my Thompsons feel it. But the funk man take Some of those was allowed? Man, come on, you don't have to prove nothing to me. Text some of those as all out share Frank, you don't have to use my insertions else. I want to have children one day, but if you're breaking me like that,

I'm not going to be able to do that. Text some of tho zozo out. Hey, everybody working, horrible decision ends. I'm wheezy, and today we are going to be joined by the lovely and late Jesse Wou and Sam Whiteout, who are filling in from Mandy B. Today. I am so excited to be here. We are at the Gotham Podcast Studio at one hundred Church Street. It's an awesome

place to record your podcast. They have two rooms. They offer video as well, So if you're ever in New York and you want to invite us on your pod, we'll meet you here. Thanks for joining me, Sam, Thanks for having me. It's been a while, dude. So I just want to say I'm so excited to have you back because your episode at the time was like so highly rated and it was very vanilla. It was it wasn't that vanilla. It was okay, alright, you talked about

like college train running. You're like, oh, but not me, No, No, that's that is not how that went down. You know what I'm saying. Everbody should just go listen to episode twenty one and then they can be you know, their own judge. And compared to this, Sam's episode was about dating dudes, dating don't. Jesse's episode was called why man a Ship? And so basically I'm like you know what to turn the table as you guys both have really great energy. Let's just make it all about things you

want and dating dudes. Let's manifest some good sex. We'll put it out good vibes, speak it into existence. So I want to tell a story actually really quick while we're waiting for Jesse, because it's crazy. Okay, this is seriously insane. So I've been dating this guy named Jeeves. We had a threesome with this girl. Wait time out, you have a new man. Okay, it's been like a year, bro, calm the funk down. I just hey, it look back like oh, but I mean come on now, let's I

don't think you want to bark up that trip. Okay, And you know what, to be fair, I said the other day, Um, I need to in order to have help this podcast grow, I need to be a hoe, you know what I'm saying, Like, I can't just keep my pussy to myself. I have to throw it out there for material. So this is just content couchie at this point. Content couchie. That's a hashtag right there. Put that crazy. So we have a threesome with this girl and meet on this app called Field. Wait time out.

Can you imagine, Like I'm trying to envision, like a girl's wearing a pair of panties and it says hashtag content couchie on the front like Twitter, and I'm right, wait, wait, wait, wait what am I getting myself into? Sign the NDI a sign the India frankly, like, I feel like this is now a fetish for any new men that I will meet. They're like, oh, yeah, it's content Couchie. Like cool, I'm gonna is she gonna talk about it? So they're gonna put an extra work. Um, so here's what happens.

Have this threesome like a month or so ago. So I go downstairs. I looked like ship. It was the rough day of work. And I went to my favorite plea to place. It's called Sauce NELLI. Yes, check it out. It's really good and I always get the classic. So I'm sitting there and I'm looking at someone sitting at the table, a group of two friends, and you know when you're looking at someone but you're like where do I know them from? So the girls smiling at me and she's, um, you just wait. Let me give a

little background. It was an okay threesome one out of ten. I'll give it a six point five seven. I didn't even get the dick beau. The didn't want it. She whatever, it was fine, interesting, I'm really into being a boyor so she's looking at me. I'm looking at her, and this girl smiling at me, and then she's talking to her friend, and then the friend looks at me. I'm like, Okay, they're not black, so they must not know horrible decisions. Honestly,

is your demographic that skewed towards black? Yeah, we have thirteen white people that listen, and they always right in and they'll say, hey, I'm two out of thirteen, three out of thirteen. Now that we've been on really an idiots, I'm gonna push it up to maybe twenty six. But I mean, you don't even count bro. Black people send you to ship and you out here. Black lives matter all days, so we can't even count you in the thirteen comments. So anyway, the girl, I'm getting the pizza.

I'm waiting for it, and the girl comes over to me and she's like, oh my god, hi, and I'm like hey, and she's like, are you kidding me? I said, hold on and she's like, you're a bit and she laughs and then like hugs me, and I'm like what. And I don't know if the smell of her reminded me of her, not in a bad way, I know, but I'm still well, but I think her scent reminded me that it was her, and I'm like, oh my god. And I didn't know her name, so I was like,

why do you even try? So then I just say like, girl, are you felt bad? Right? Because she's sitting there now. She's like, damn, you don't even remember me, bl blah blah blah blah. So I'm still at the window right and I'm so fucking embarrassed that i don't know her. I just want to get my pizza and leave now. For anybody that knows me well, they know I have an egg gallergy and this is what made me feel worse.

The guy's like, miss, miss, we ran out of the pizza, but we have the bacon ranch pizza if you want that, and she says she can't eat that she's allergic to eggs. I'm like, you remember my allergy and I don't remember your pussy r face. This is terrible, bro. So I'm sitting there trying to like overcompensate, right, I'm just telling her. I'm like, oh my god, it's been such a long day. Like it's been I just like, so, dude, I felt so bad. He's like, do you want the pizza? Like no,

So I start running down the street. He's like, you forgot your money. He's holding three dollars over the fucking window. Like it's fine, It's fine. I felt so bad, Sam, you should because I only bring us up to ask have you ever forgot No? But I now have the greatest excuse for forgetting people's names because I get to say, at least, it's not like we had sex and I forgot your name because I'm to you. So I actually want to say thank you, because I get in trouble

all the time. I meet a lot of people, and I love meeting people, but I forget people's names. I'll remember somebody what they were like wearing, and what we talked about, and what we were eating, what the weather was like. She was naked. I would have remembered her bush because that was honestly the most memorable thing about her. And I just want to say I was It was

a very jarring bush. Okay, So I don't mind a bush, but like if it's around like the whole of the pussy, which is like the actual vagina, right, Like I had to eat your vagina with hair in it, I don't want to pull it on that teeth, you know, having stems in the blunt. I already got big teeth, they already in the way. I don't need the hair too. So when I remember the bush. So it's funny because when I she took off her panties, I was like, oh no, and then she opened her legs. I was like, oh,

it's not where I thought it was. But like, have you seen the movie Waiting with Ryan Reynolds, Why, there's like a there's like a bush scene where this like crazy waitress stands on a table and like like pulls her pants down and it's like this crazy bush. And she's like, that's okay. It wasn't that bad. It wasn't that bad. She was very clean, she smelled fine, tasted fine. It's just like I haven't seen a full bush like that in a long time. And I just want to

say I kind of felt like it was coming. So she kept talking about how much of a feminist she was, and I was like, I love equal rights. I ride for my sisters all day, every day. But I'll be wax so because it's your right to wax or to not wax. Thank you, So here we go, seriously, no thank you, because that story is now recorded, so on record. I'm gonna have this saved so that I can literally anytime I get shipped for not remember somebody's name, I'm

just gonna play this. Appreciate this. I don't appreciate this. I don't appreciate this. I'll appreciate this at all because you'd be a real shady I grateful, all right. I already feel bad about it. Honestly, I'm praying to God she doesn't know my Instagram or anything, because this would be even worse. But like I said, you tasted great, just better. It's going to get better. If she knows

your instagram. Why would it get better because there would be more to the story, which maybe she'll come on. That would be great. She'll be like, hey, fuck you, what's your name again? What is it wise with? All right? So I wanted to do Vanilla ship, but I thought maybe we could skip that because you're already kind of

the Vanilla Ship of the show. Well, it's like, um, but people, you came on and everybody wanted me to ask you something that you do want to Twitter Sam after Dark right asked Sam nasty questions and we went easy on you. So I'm going to start this off with a bang no pun. Okay, the first episode was the one that you heard about the missing condom that you talked about on a few platforms, that you enjoyed it and whatever, Dad Ship was hilarious. I looked like

a crazy person walking down the street. I was laughing. So, speaking of crazy people, have you ever got a condom stuck on a girl? And if so, did you offer to help get it out? What happened? Tell us that I definitely think it's happened more than once. Really, yeah, um, I know it happened with like this girl I was seeing in college for like and it's like not it wasn't just like a casual one or two time thing. We were like seeing each other pretty frequently, so you were, Okay,

we're going elbow deep to get it out. No, No, I think she was embarrassed. I was like, oh Ship, like my bad, and then she just went to the bathroom and took care of it. Wait, you didn't help her get the condom out offered. You just walked into Jesse who my sisters talking? Have you ever had a condom stock in your puzzy Jessie? Why do you know? What a question to walk into? She knew? What do you know? I've had a condom stuck there by the way. I don't know if you've ever met Sam, I don't

really met. It's nice to me. You like che I like beautiful women. Have you ever been with a white woman? Yes? You you know. When I interviewed you last time, you said, no, that's not true. Yes you did. Nope, that's that's a lie. You've been with aitian O. My head found this is getting. This is like me. It's just like me fucking white boys and then finding out from my frayed hairs that I'm black. I'm like, whoa, that is a not I

definitely didn't write to you. I definitely have head sex with a white girl, like and before the podcast it was in college. I feel like you told us to know, but I'll go for it. I've never dated a white woman. That's what the question was, and that is still true. Why is that is it the food child. I don't often find myself in like social situations with white women. I saw Van le Thin post a peanut butter sandwich. Van, by the way, right, what you heard me? What in

the white buck? And so he then posted a caption as to tag someone who would enjoy this, and I wrote, frankly, I have so many white friends at tag, but I think they're only friends with me. For the food. I would tag a rope or something, maybe a maggot that is disgust make is eating peanut butter and mayo. That's white people put mayo on just too much. They really do that. I ain't gonna like I'm all with like a Chipotle mao. Yes, because it's a season male, right right?

All right, you're walking into Lord, you know, okay, this is neither of your first times around. It's not. Let's get speaking of that. We already played the clip of you talking about zozos. Alright, So if someone squirts this is Sam, are you licking it up? Or are you freaking out if it gets on you or your face? Uh? Neither. I'm certainly not going to freak out. There's not much

that can be me freak out. I mean, you have a beard, a K flavor saver and so shout out to recognizing so you do when it's soaked up like and it's dripping, do you not like kiss with the taste and stuff? Oh? Sure, But I'm saying like I was just meaning to say that, like, there is not much it could go down that would make me freak out, especially because I feel like it's freaking out during sex

just makes the other person feel embarrassed. If it was a squirting stream of piss, how do you feel about that? That would not be okay? But what squirting is from urine in there, So I mean it's like a little bit, but like I feel like it tastes different. It's tangy, got a little tang to it. Have you ever squirted drinks? I've never squirted me neither. Maybe it's something wrong with me a girl. Maybe we should practice with saying m Maybe we should after the show? What do you think

that's you? Have you ever seen pins? Also? You know I've seen pins also before, and you know I'm just not I mean, here's the thing, right, my mom's an armand and she told me not all white men's half pink Zuzukay, that's said that some white man's got brown zuzu?

Is that true? I mean not not like not like brown, like like like a little Indians getting like you know what I'm saying, a little yeah, like a little you know, some little Indian, a little Native and marriage, so just like not pink like yeah, and then there's a tone, right. And I was watching the show called Housewives of Potomac. One of the black girls up there, she dates a white man and she was like, you know his my

my husband, Penis is half black half white. Because it's being on she was like, the shaft is white, but the balls is brown. So I don't know. It's like, you know what he really he talks to her like a black dude. So I'm like, well, maybe that's something to it, maybe a little brown or whatever. It's like it's yeah, you know it like maybe maybe it's right. So yeah, I haven't seen enough white guy dicks to really make a judgment. True, Yeah, I wouldn't know. When

you watch porn, are you watching inter racial morn? You watching? Do you have to watch black nick porn? What? Because it's not like it makes him feel, it makes me feel what it makes him feel the way. I'm just I mean no, I just I can't like place myself, like I can't place myself. So is that what you're doing in porn? You're placing your Okay, got it, I would imagine. So I don't do that. I just appreciate

the boy for what it is. I don't know. For me, porn is always nice to they start having sex, like you appreciate the plot. I'd be liking it and I want to be you know, like talking to each other and stuff. And then when they're like when the dicks starts slamming into the pussy, I did, I'm done? But wait, what part do you come to? I don't come to any Okay, So why so I feel like you and I take very different approaches to porn because I watch porn to get a nut so that I can go

to sleep because I'm tired and stressed. I'll be watching porn to like get ideas and stuff. But then it's like, so you watch porn for research? Yeah, okay, I didn't know. I've watched enough. I feel like I've watched enough porn though that the research is just like a side factor, like I watched like I like to watch like the romantic porn be like, oh yeah, I like the romantic It's like, but that's like sometimes like they've just be

jamming the zozo in there. It's like, don't be jamming my ship up, Like no, it's a weird traffics do you pay for? Like where are you finding this? Like high quality? They have a lot of Actually, um, there's a woman named Erica Lust Jeeves told me about. So she's a girl chat femaleographer that has people submit their stories in and then she reenacts them with actors and it's made for women. It's like you really typing this hand?

I mean made for women porn is usually better. Yeah, you know it's like you know, the wind be blowing in your hair and ship and basically there's more like production value. Yeah yeah, it don't take much of me. So I'm a dude at heart, like I like it to be disgusting, honey, I don't want to, but I see and then like they'd be like coming on ahead, like don't be coming on my pair, don't do that.

That does suck me up. Don't be coming on my frontal wig, Like this is a week, don't don't come here, you know, try to come you know, somewhere over here. Don't come up here over here because and it's like I gotta take the come out, and you know it's mixed with the hair glue and nobody got time. Exactly are you black girls? You'll be old on what's going on with Actually, you know what, let's start off with this because we're a little confused, Sam, can you just

we didn't do that. I just kind of figured everybody new because this is both your second episode. Can you just tell the people who you're white black as is? Yeah? Okay, So what's up, y'all? I'm Sam White Out. I talk about race and politics, sencific engagement at schools and colleges across the country, and I'm blessed to you know, partner with a lot of amazing activists across the country and try and make this clusterfuck of a world a little bit of a better place. Didn't you work for the

Obama admin? No, I didn't. I worked for Corey Booker, who is a senator from my home state of New Jersey. Corey is an amazing person. He's a good friend, he's he's one of the good politicians out there. Is actually trying to help people. Um so I interned for him rap Befres from school and we stayed in touch, and so I work on stuff like that and then I do kinky ship like this because I think that people should realize that you can care about politics and you

can care about other people's lives. And someday one of people say, you said you could be a social justice person at a home. Yeah you can. You can be. Everybody should be. You should be for social justice period, whether you're a hoe or a doctor or a lawyer or a doctor who or whatever the case. And Jesse, who are you? Well, you know I'm still trying to

foule I am. But you know I'm just a little Haitian girl from Miami who talks a lot about securing your pay league and you know, Zozo appointment, so whatnot. But I'm a host for BT and I do like stand up comedy and I have a lot of stuff in the works. You drink a lot of dwinks. I drink a lot of dwinks. I don't. I don't drink spam, but I drink dwinks. You don't what what? I don't drink spell? You know this? A half white en us, Sam, What wait, I'm supposed to swallow it? I mean, I'm

just you never, I'm not gonna say supposed to. You should do every you like. You taste like a little salty. Well, then you're working with the wrong dudes. You know, you need to fix their type of niggers. I'll be there and maybe eating a lot of steak and ship and so like they should be. They should be tasting like Haitian food. Yeah, maybe tastes my peak leaves. The sperm he tastes like peak leaves. Now, I'm not trying to swaddle that. Sorry. I remember, So I had gotten into it.

I had had there was a I just canna move on. There was there was a girl who I was and like I had kind of assumed. I had always kind of assumed that like if you're giving me head, that gonna come in your mouth, right and then hold up, hold up and something. And so I got I got sort of you know, checked on that because Shorty was like, you know, she wasn't mad, but she was like, you should have said something. You should have asked me, like

where do you want me to come? And then if I wanted you to come in my mouth, I would have said, so, okay, cool, but here's the thing. So for the next like a couple of months, whenever that sort of situation would arise, I would ask, right now, try and do it in a way that was not sort of like weird, but just sort of were you like, yeah, no blow jobs? And then I had one girl afterwards she was like, don't you ever ask me no dumb sh it like that again? And I put your dick

in my mouth. I will fucking swallow like I ain't, no bitch. I was like, I was like, girl, thank you, I'm back, you know, I just I don't know. It's just something about having people's children just swimming my mouth. I'm just I don't know like I thought, you know, first it was the taste. Now it's like I'm killing kids. Listen anywhere anywhere? What where you think they should anywhere where God in the Bible things they should be. I'll take it anywhere. I'd rather have a wig. I don't

put on my wig that I will be upset. Don't put on. So I saw some on Twitter where there's like a tweek going around like what's the wildest ship you've ever seen? On this app? Right? And people will quote it with some crazy ship and one girl goes, she goes yo. I was sucking this dude's dick and my hair kept getting in the way, and so he pulled off my wig and put it next to him and said, if you're gonna do this ship sucking right,

I was like, oh my god. First of all, I could not fathom having enough confidence to take a short these wig. You can't see my wig doune came off during sex before, but really this is where my ex But he was polite. He politely placed the back on and then he kept his hand on it while he he was just so polite. Do you think he needed the wig to finish? Like he was confused, because it's

like when the wig fell off. I was like, I kind of like you know how the baby is about to pen the baby falls and they're about to cry and you look at them. Yes, it was like that, Like I almost had that moment. He was like he put it back on me, and he was like, removed the head, but let me just see how he He was like, I don't think I didn't take it all the way off, but like I was pulling her hair and her ship was not secure. Oh you supposed no,

Like she caught it. It was like it was like, like you know what I'm saying that if her hairline was it was like back here when she caught it and kind of pushed it back, you know, better than to be grabbing the girls. I thought wings were secure, and then my that was a read that was a sister secure, especially doing sex out loud. You know, I've been doing that recently. So I've been like, so I wear like clipping. Sometimes I wear trying to wear my own hair, so like I'll do the clips for volume

and sometimes they come out. And so what my favorite thing to do is I take the band anna and I firmly secure right what clips be clip just because you're not gonna grab that exactly, I don't see exactly. I've actually taken a piece that had fell out and just like talk it right under the pillow. Uh, So let's stop talking about wig sliding. Moving on, So we do a kink in the week. Both of you all know this, but I wanted to do past kinks and see if y'all could guess what they mean. Okay, one

that I mentioned today, I feel like Sam knows. But number one Boukocki. Do you know what that is? Jesse Bokocky, You don't know what Boukocki is? Is that like doo doo in cock? No, I feel like as a as like a growing up in like a white town and like prepubescent like middle like you know, no, but I mean like I feel like straight, young white suburban kids are the grossest people alive. That's true. That's probably why them. Now, I mean nothing, nothing, nothing, I mean they fine, it's fine, okay,

but yes, I know boukaki is alright. So actually my mom just learned what bokkies. We were playing cards against Humanity and she had no idea what the card was. So I googled Urban Dictionary and I gave it you and I said, please don't say anything, like just read this and say nothing what it is. It's when like, uh, at least two so like two or more guys are coming on a shorty space usually her face awhere, but

that's against my religion. So like like the classic Boukocki video is like a little Asian girl getting netted on by like oh you know what, I've seen those type of porns maybe cartoon though, like ye, do you be searching. Yeah, I'll be looking at the cartoon. I thought you. I guess you're watching Marge and Homer. Yes, I do. I've been seeing family the best. Yes, that's what I wanted. Crazy that I like it, but people are into it,

actually I do. That was like into um animated. Yeah, I like that photos he liked like fawns and like medieval ship. Yeah. It was like kind of scaring me. But the dick was really good, and I think I was like always in fear for my life. But next that's the half white part of you. Okay, uh number two. I feel like we can do some context clues here. Aquaphelia, aquaphilia okay, so aqua water being super turned on by

the idea of being drowned or submerged in water. Holy, that was not I thought it was gonna be like enjoyed in the water, enjoyed being drowned. There are people like that, though. I had a guy who asked me to choke him till he passed out. That was my next one. I was about to say, like I was with you, I was with you until they passed out, he asked me. So that's called That was my number three. That's a strong hand. Its fixation and look at me,

I'm looking at a smart well. I can't choke you negative. What are you talking about? Like all black women are capable of choking. Well, I gotta be angry, like I'm not going to do that while I'm my pussy with Yeah, tell the nut on your funnel and then okay, so next time, yeah, not on my for We like, do one for me, one from you. The last one actually the third one was aspixiation, which is being choked out. The last one is called bro middraphilia, bro mid drift philia.

Some about a mid drift and somebody brother bro middriff. It wasn't close, but I doesn't want to hear. I feel like you said it deliberately like that to make us think bro midriff. But if it's like, okay, maybe bro middriphilia. But it's the attraction to body odor. Oh hell no. So all are saying that. But me and Mandy had an email recently where someone wanted to pay us four for our panties and socks. Should have said you got to do well. The thing is panties don't

smell bad. Though. Good for you, Jesse, because there are women out here that probably cannot say the same. Okay, are we talking about pussy? Oder were talking about body order, right talking? Yeah, Well, I think any kind of bo like I mean, I mean, there's there's a very distinct smell difference between like somebody's fucking armpits and so here's

the weird thing. I've had. A guy asked me for my panties too before though that that's on a hot It depends like gross panties or like what if I was like, hey, why don't you go work out and let me smell it? You're the under arms of your that's weird. Well, see, hold on, I'm gonna so. I used to have this thing with this man I used to live with where when he went to the gym, I just liked the scent of his shirts. It wasn't like stink, no, no, no, yeah, it's like musk some dudes.

Yeah like this, you know the smell of you know, I've lost a couple of shirts that way smells good. I don't want to kind of smell him after the show. Hey, I shout out to Dasha Polanco. I remember when I first met her, she was like, she has this little hashtag. She goes and I smell good too, or something like that. She told me I smelled good. I was like, you know, I stay ready, so I gotta get ready. So okay, okay, shout out to Dasha and smelling good. Put the pan on,

burning up. We were worried about the sound, you guys, but we're really trying to do good with audio. But I'm sorry we got turned his air on because ship my tracks a lot. All right, horrible decision for this week. Okay, you came on, Jesse and we did um nicka saying ship and you came on, we did dating don't. So I want to spread some positivity and manifest some good stuff for people. I keep getting in letters about what to do on first dates? Do I spend money? What

should I do? I do this? So I want to talk about dating dudes. All right, So the first one I have is paying for the first date. Just sucking. Do it, man, just do it. That's not even up for discussion. I will say this, what I pay for the first date. I think I think you can't get away with not paying the first date. But I think it's fucking dumb. It's like an arbitrary bullshit. It's annoying, but I do it anyway. Don't all lord me like I do it. But I'm just saying it's it's dumb.

It's supposed to paid. That's it. There s I mean to be fair to right, I didn't. I didn't say that. I don't do it. I'm just saying I think it's dumb. Why I feel like if I pay for the first day, it's because I want Dick and I don't want nothing else from you. Really, see when I paid for the first day, when I offered to split the bill or something, it's because I don't want to see you again. That's how that's the thing. I'm paying for the first day.

I'm trying to see the Dick tonight. Why why wouldn't you tell me? Because find Dick. I'm paying for Dick, and I'm done. I appreciate the straightforward. I think there's a there's a lot of things that are more important than this. But if if somehow like the world were to get simplified enough where like we can have a conversation about it. I think it's kind of silly, but I'm going to do it. I get it. It's a social standard. I get it folk, Sam, but not pay

for dinner. You know lethal lips is y'all wan't be knowing how to cook. I had them motherfucker breaking on Instagram. Bro we see them cookies, Brooklyn Nigga talk about something. I don't want to. I don't do pay for dick. I just want to cook phone. So I come over. I'm thinking, I'm gonna get a meal. Why you make him sound like he got as he was sorry he cooked me and asthma ass meal? What was it? Some damn noodles and he put like he put like parmesan

on it? Did he made you pasta alfred with chicken? It wasn't and pasta was pasta. It was noodles, put a little Pomesan on it, and then he had a nerd to put parsley leaves on. You know what, you don't take that day. So he's like, you know what, let me get them things, let me get the grass on the Yeah, it's it's really romantic to like cook dinner with somebody, though, Yes, but not for the first date. No, not for the first day. I feel like a first date should be now. Now, I want to say this

before you walked in, before we even started recording. Sam was saying, you know, I'm not really going on dates with people that I haven't met yet. I'm going on dates with someone I know, which I feel like no, like no, no, but I mean like I don't know, yeah, like maybe we're acquaintances or something like that. So that don't happen to me. I swipe right or I meet

you in a bar. That's how I'm not on dating apps. Okay, I kind of like that, though I don't feel I feel like that's how I date, but it's not how like it's not what I set out to do, but I feel like that's how I've dated. Really, yeah, a couple of times when it has been something I just met, Like the dude who took me to Noodles. He was a guy met at the bar. Not that there's anything wrong with meeting anybody at a bar club, but like it's just not where I usually find that I'm in

like the most relaxed context and meeting people. So like I'll meet people through friends or some ship or whatever you mean, people on Instagram. It's happened, but it's not like it's usually like you're easy, don't You're very you're verified. What maybe maybe there's like skating with the verifications and ship. Now you've been verified for a minute, so you've pus that way. That is false. I'm not the only place

I'm verified as Facebook, And who gives a funk about Facebook? Besides, like middle aged people game pussy that blue check beginning some pussy, you know he's verified. I don't, because y'all have more than a quarter million followers. So well, so number two, my dating dude, this is a really important one for me, and it is asking questions, slash, keeping your ego and check and open ended text. Now let me explain, and then I want you all to degress. Okay,

so what are you going to get to the kinky part? Okay? Well, you talked about coming in hair. Can we give it a fucking second saying damn, don't put your dick out just because I'm sitting here you getting excited. Hold on a second. First of all, y're not going to tell me that y'all. I do not need to hear no more bullshit about how y'all went easy on me. So I gotta make sure that this episode. You know, I'm saying, pops, I literally just asked you if you were tasting. It's like, females,

I'm just making sure. What more do you want me to do? Do you eat? Ask Sam? No, but I've got my ass eat? Wait, you don't eat ass? Well? No, I haven't eaten ass. It's not like a thing. Why are you not eating ass? Maybe I just haven't found the right ask to eat? What are you talking about? Right about the pussy? I'm saying I've I've gotten like a little bit of ass on the way up on one of those like long licks. You know what I'm saying, Just like some eat my ass. And I'm still trying

to figure out if I liked it. I definitely. It's probably like the first time we all try in my high But you were you like it? You did not like it? I'm with Tank. Tank talked about it interview. He was like, we need to unshame men getting their ass, and I was like, I'm with We know you talked about yours. You like it, I don't ask for it. But if you're gonna go down there, ain't gonna stop. Are you eating booty? Hey? No, these niggers don't know

how to white right. Next thing you know, I'm down there eating meatballs and ship that should be stuck in the hands. You got hair, you get the hairs out of the inside of your ass. I can't do. You mean the inside are shaving your booty hole? I mean, like as close to it as ye, Well, don't you shave your boy carefully? That's how you don't. Okay, I get what I'm with that chemical ship. I'm gonna start

getting wax as though, because like it's pretty it is. Honestly, every time I get waxed, it takes like two niggas off my pussy, honestly, Like I haven't gotten the West in a while. It just looks like new pussy every time. And honestly, it's so baby fresh. You know, somebody comes off course is wide. I haven't gotten wax in the years by then when I used to get them back in college, like I used to send like five niggas like Yo, what's up? What's fresh? Po pussy? What's going on?

What you're doing to night? I want to you back to open ended text nasty people like damn keep going um So I want to leave the open end of texting because I feel like I've dated so many men that have been so confused why I didn't think they were into me because they text very vague. You have to have open ended texts, not like what's up, good morning, good morning, beautiful, good morning, beautiful, good morning, beautiful, good morning, beautiful,

good morning. What you doing, what you're doing, what you're doing, watch you're doing, watch you doing? O lord, it's too vague. It's like, what is this? I feel like you have to volley the conversation back and forth, and if you don't, I'm not going to be back and forth. I don't like texting, so I might do you like a phone call?

Put you prefer phone calls? Yeah? I mean, like, I think there are certain people where like the text conversation like flows really nicely and whatever, and it works, but it's so easy for schedules to get in the way that like if I'm busy or if you're busy in it, it just can get disjointed and then all of a sudden, it's like waiting, like you know, five six hours in between text messages, and it's difficult to create a conversation that way. And if if I recognize that that's the dynamic,

you'd be on Instagram. Now. Well, if I'm on. If I'm my Instagram or Twitter, it means I'm not texting you. You saint it. You say that you let you heard that, but maybe I don't you know what. Anyways, the point is I'll just call even the ones just so ask questions and keep your egoing and check. This is a big one for me. I've been on a lot of dates where I feel like men are putting themselves on the table too quick with like how great they are and if you turn off, and I feel like we

have to start remembering to ask people their interests. I am a victim of this. On my own show, I will invite someone on and then just be like, let me tell you about the dick I got, But really I should be asking Jesse about the dick she just got. Well, I ain't been getting no dick, so you ain't got no been like three months, let's see who's had sex. I got cobwebs in my pussy, Nacha three months clean?

Those that have no problem walks them right out. Um no, but you're right though, a lot of a lot of guys are like that. Yeah, shut then up, let me ask me, asked me how my day went, bitch, what the fuck, I'm here to ship. I think I think that's the case. But I also think that part of it is like a young professionals, everybody so busybody he's talking about themselves and and I think that people are really comfortable. Now, somebody must have told you don't shut

then up over here to know, I don't. I don't. I don't like talking about myself on dates because I don't. I don't know. It's just like I get the same questions, and I want to ask both of you. As someone that's popping in you know, black Twitter, Instagram and whatever in your community, do you find that you go on dates for people trying to ask you about that. I try and avoid going on on dates with the types

of people who are going to eat by that. Like I have a very clear radar about trying to avoid those coins of environments, which is why I don't usually meet people at the bar. And not that's anything wrong with that, because it's not a problem if if they know me. It's a it's a problem of if they

know me, and why are they interested? Like what are you do you just want me to like talk about like I don't know, Instagram and Twitter and ask you a question on some reverse racism right here, reverse racism doesn't exist, thank you, Sam, definitely doesn't because white people stuck away. White people can't be racist. Racism requires power, thank you. Black people can be prejudicial or discriminatory or whatever.

It's just like gay people can be discriminatory, but like gay people can't be Like, there's no such thing is like heterophobic, right, there's no such thing as reverse racism. Like why do you hate straight people? I'm a sucking pig. Like it's so hard to be a white man. Okay, it doesn't do you feel when people want you to be their first white boy? That was my question for you. Uh, do you feel fetishized? Fetishized would probably be the wrong

word because it's so rare. It's actually a joke, But I mean saying that it doesn't make you feel uncomfortable though, Yeah, I know, we're definitely. Yeah, you have to be so fine at that point, like otherwise I'm just like I'm good, Like if it was worth it, I ain't gonna lot like I've wanted to try, you know, pink penis um, But them Gray movies kind of skipped me because y'all, y'all be time, people laughing ship that's what I like. But that's if you want me to basket. You know

you haven't missed some like decent like boys crowd. I want two hands unless you want me to. Lord. This is the first time ever in the studio where like I wasn't the one trying to suck the guests. Honestly, it's just constantly me throwing content and you know, just the thing is my parole right now, but that's my are you saving it for? Like, how do you feel about sex with an X? Well? The thing it's like me and my ex, because even the last time I came out was with my ex. Yeah, so I don't know.

I just like we broke up three months ago. We haven't done anything, and I just feel like I can't like have sex with somebody else right now. It's like, what the fun? Let's not even get too deep on number four. Oh, I'm sorry number three. Be honest. If you didn't enjoy the date and you're not feeling it, instead of going ghosts, just tell the truth. Amen. I hate when people go ghost so fucking much. It's disrespectful.

Be a fucking grown ass person, be an adult. You can tell me that you you don't want to chill anymore, like you can do it in a way that's polite. I have had people thank me for saying that I wasn't interested. I have had men do the same for me, and um, I really appreciate it. As much as it's considered more brutally honest, it's actually but still it feels brutal because you're the one who's interested, right, But it is better than just getting ghosted. At least you're an answer.

I have to work on that because I'm good for blocking my mother sucker after a bad day. Really, yes, I blocked you on everything that's wild, But that's because it's hard. It's hard for her to be upfront because you're probably worried you feelings don't care about you're feeling the guilt of like feeling like, oh funk, I gotta tell this motherfucker' I don't believe that. I just I don't be caring. You're telling me that you don't. Dude, do it all the time to us. So why I

gotta why I gotta be the one? So why I gotta be the bigger person? No block? But I don't know. I had a situation where I hit short because I thought things went well and then she was essentially got ghosted, and then she hit me up like a week later, and she was like, I was wondering whether or I should tell you, but I just didn't feel like we vied very much, and so like I'm kind of good on hanging out. And I was like, okay, like you could have just said that, like it's no problem, but

thanks for you know, let me know whatever. You know that just blocked you good just black, but you too old, I think. But I think I think the thing is if if y'all was like, if it was one date, I feel like I can get behind what you're saying, like I went on a date with a couple of dates with this girl and then I'm not I'm not. I'm not mad at all because she didn't. She actually texted me. She was like, hey, I've really enjoyed our dates.

I just don't see this going any further, and like I just wanted to be straight up, you know, with you, and I was like, okay, I appreciate that. That is different talking about first I was talking about both. I still think you're old dead on the first day, but here nor there this one. I feel like it's the most important one and it is set your standards now.

I feel like in my lifetime, especially with lover Boy, because I was very confused on the blurred lines and if you've been a listener of horrible decisions and you know, I was like, my wofefrien anything. Now my boyfriend blah blah, were talking about who I think we're talking about? Okay, sure the last one you remember? Okay, when I was when I interview you. When I interviewed you did have

a boom. It's still that okay, But like, ok, I am talking about lover Boy, who was trash, and he was like, oh, I don't know if we're gonna be when it come back, you know, then we're gonna be the route. And I was not clear that I had. We're not clear at all. I told you, I literally told this to your face. I'm gonna tell you more later. Vision.

So basically, I feel like I didn't set the standards from from jump, and I think that women should be saving theirselves from these situation ships by being honest when the nigs like oh yeah, yeah, I'm just trying to kick it. If you don't want to just kick it. I don't kick ship around me. We ain't kicking ship. We're not homeboys. It's really uncomfortable because you know, we want a Dick. But at the same time, like if you want more about committed zig, I want every day Zig.

I want Monday through Sunday appointment. I want the appointment Z. I want boyfriend Zick. You know what I'm saying. I want exclusive Dick, Exclusive Dick. What's exclusive Dick the boyfriend or just your Dick? You my you, my boyfriend, Dick. You might might be my husband, Dick. You might call me my mama, Dick. You might we go on a Sunday church service together, Dick. That's what I want. You're such a church you bring up the Sunday right there.

I used to be trying to get banged by the worship leaders like, oh, you know what I'm saying, you're just so gifted by God. Let me, Oh, my Lord, who that boy? Someone doing it the way he was? By the way, jose Jesse told a great story about a pastor being gay and wanting to suck her to yes. Uh. Number five is very simple. It is put your phone away. I feel like too many people are obsessed with their phone. Stop checking your phone. Being in the moment, breathe present.

I feel like that is the biggest fucking turn off, you know what. I feel like. I feel like when somebody does that, they're not that into you. When I'm out with somebody and I really feel like we're connecting, I'm not checking on my phone because I'm focused on what we're doing. A bad date, I still give the person a decency of not texting Jesse, you ain't ship you blocking niggas texting other niggas like out with that.

But there's a difference between like why it's bad. Is it bad because the person is being a douche bag because they're being a have had that? Then then I feel like you sacrifice. You lose sort of the right to expect someone to be sort of courteous. But if it's a bad date just because y'all don't click, but it's still like courteous and sort of like, you know, nice,

then you don't want to be a dickhead. My last one is tell me how you feel, slash compliment, slash ask me for the second date, all right after the first date. I feel like when I am on an amazing date and it's going good. Right after we're leaving each other, right before he's like, hey, I want to see you again. Absolutely, And I feel like and someone doesn't do that, they're not very clear to where it's off putting for me, and I'm low key just like

completely uninterested by the end of the day. I agree. What about women, do you think that we should be saying that, yes, thank you, ah, you know what, saying like I'm having a good time with you. You're not complimenting. And but you said, should we be the ones that asked for a second day? Can we say like I had a really good I don't, But should you be giving indicators that you want to see the given? And here's here's my indicators as well. You know, I'm giving

line indicators and shoulders. I'm putting my titties on a table like I mean, I need that when I'm meant to it. But I also feel like they might just think that's me. I don't know, So I do this thing that I appreciate that recently I've been starting I start saying, like in the middle of the day, like I'm having a really good time with you, Like I like, I love that ship. That is great. You know, She's like,

I have never complimented a man. I've been like, I hate all the see that would make me think you were ansto me. Yeah, that would honestly compliments. And I feel like that also translates like gas her up, like you don't, don't be hesitant to be kind, Like, don't don't think that being kind is being thirsty. You can There's a difference between being kind of being thirsty, like if you are like if the only pictures you ever respond her Instagram story are the ones where she's in

a bikini during the summer. Okay, you're sucking up, but if but you shouldn't hesitate to like compliment her like a complement my friends too. It's not just a romantic thing like gas your people up. Guess your friends up, guess your home girls up, your homeboys, guess everybody. And if you're sucking somebody, why would you not want to guess them up even more? Each white boy? Please? All right,

I want to get to the homemail. We got to get out of here, and I'm asking this question, uh, because I feel like I don't know you're both good for it. The subject is was I a fucking colorist. Okay, ladies, love the podcast and energy you both bring listening to your show. Is any highlights my Monday. I'm in college working towards the end of my freshman year, and I started working with an African. I don't know, hold on, let me look at her name, but yeah, oh signed

molka shot. Okay, I'm in college. Let's started finding one African? Okay. I knew we both didn't want to be in a committed relationship, so our relationship was based off sex. The sex was capital letters, great, consistent, and came with the occasional cuddling. However, we fell off and when he got a girlfriend, he continued to hit me up for sex. I declined when we started up again when he was single. He's now in another relationship. It looks exactly like his

ex light skinned, Spanish looking but they're still pretty. I this has made me start questioning or not whether I was dealing with a nigger who could fuck medium to dark skinned black girls but only wanted to wipe up lighter tone Spanish girls. I want to know if I'm tripping and has this happened he all before. I'm not offended by being pursued emotionally by him. But this is low key sucking me up since I've never experienced something

like this. Sincerely, Mochas Shorty and uh, I want to read this because me and Mandy can't speak on this. Me and Mandy are both lights and girls. What are we supposed to say? Oh, Nigga's we already know that. I mean, there's a prejudice towards black skinned women sometimes darker skinning sometimes excuse me, And I want to know, has that ever happened to you? What explained that? Like,

what's what's happened to you? You You like, you've you've sucked a dude and then all of the girls that he was serious with with lighter skin or um, Well for me,

thank goodness, we didn't get that far. But I've had gone on a date, gone on several dates with somebody, and I realized, like by like I think it was like the second date that I was the only black girl he had dated, and he was black, and he was just making these type of comments to me, like and I was like, bitch, Like he would make comments about my hair or make comments about the things that I wore or the music that I listened to or you know, like and then it's like he tried to

flirt with me following up with that, and it's like, bitch, I don't want you can say things to me that are trying on the opposite end. Um, Like, they'll say things to me like, oh, you know, yeah you black, like you're not as blah blah blah, or your hair isn't as or you ain't as loud, and I'm like, oh, yeah, Well, I think it ultimately comes down to the fact that on either end of the spectrum, people are trying to define black womanhood by one thing and that's not okay, right.

And so whether it's um, you know, light skinned folks or biracial folks or multiracial folks getting sort of criticized and told that they're not black enough or they're not white enough and they don't belong in either community, right, Whether it's that or dark skinned women being held to ridiculous standards and being told that they're not pretty from the time that they're six right discussed, it's fucking gross

on both ends. And I think I think you see that it's something that that spans both, Like white men do this, black men do this, like men do this right in terms of trying to define for women and for themselves, like what what kind of women are they allowed to be? Right? And if we see these images all the time where like lighters go, I mean even down to music, when music videos were popping, right, it's like always the lights popular, It's like there's experience with

wild and now you know what I mean. Like even when I was a while not girl, it was like I was told like I was not exotic. You know, I didn't get any shine, any any And I just say, I'm not trying to jesse, you are so well. I didn't feel in that moment on the video with you. People are like Damne, first of all, I mean, we all know you're not that, but I in those moments I felt ugly. But you know what, what I've realized is it's always these things are all started out by

some dumbass men. Like it's always founded in some dumbass dude who can't even fit the bill of what ideally we want a guy to look like. You know what I'm saying, Like, I remember when I was, um, I think in middle school, I had a guy telling me, oh, you're pretty, but you know, dark girls aren't in right now, Like, I'll never forget that. But I think you see, it comes from I mean it comes from men period, attractive

attractive menst anybody else. And I think you know, part of the problem is that when women come forward and try and talk about these issues, their lambastad on both sides, right. So who was the There was the afric Latina woman she was on like the reality show she's got like the big fro what's her name anyway, the girl from love Hip of the Spanish one I'm not a negra,

the one that wears abuse supply. So like when she came forward and started talking about coloris and she received this tremendous feedback, I mean a pushback, right, and it was ridiculous because she was saying something that was so fucking obvious, and I was to what you mean? But then on the other side, on the side, you still have you have Like Kruchi just talked about an interview how she for a long time had body issues because she felt like she was supposed to have big Here's

the thing. People people came at her and said, oh, well, you're I hate bitches who complain, pretty bitches who complain about being pretty, like you don't have it hard. But it's like, wait a minute. The whole point here is that girls, for as long as they are aware of themselves as girls, are told not just what they're supposed to look like, but that they don't look like that. But whatever, there's you can find any woman can you can find any man can find a way to tell

a woman that she's ugly. And that's part of the problem, right, And that's why I think that there's whether it's the whatever permutation it is, whether it's a black man doing this because you know your situation, like he doesn't normally date black girls, or a white guy who's doing this and fetish sizing you and saying, well, you're not really

black like you. Basically all that that ship ultimately comes down to the fact that men are so uncomfortable talking about women, and really a lot of the guys just don't like women. I believe that, right, what they like is they like pussy, yeah, right, And the problem is that I think that it comes from it comes from homophobias, and honestly, life is so much better when you just don't try and tell other people how they're SUPs with

their life. And you know what I will never understand too, going back to my thing as a black man, how are you gonna sit here and tell me? You know so? How do you keep up with that thing? You know what I'm saying in reference to my hair? You know what I'm saying, like you're downplaying me when I'm looking through your Facebook and your mama got the little Beauty Supply wigs for ninety nine, the synthetic ones. Don't come

at me like that, you know what I mean? Like, don't come at me like you came out of a black pussy. You know what I feel like? It's it's a very condom that comes from what are you gonna do with your hair? When we're in the what are you gonna do? It's gonna get bitch, that's what it's gonna get. Wet pussy getting a bit on a level where I don't mean it like I do mean it like this. Look at you, Jesse, right, are you going to assume that my hair is the kind that can't

get wet? Seriously? You think I'm not going to be paying Come on now, I think it's interesting though that unfortunately, and I understand why I'm not saying that it's a

problem that we're having this conversation. I'm saying that it's interesting to me that white people still managed to sort of get skirted to the side in this whole conversation because this that that issue would not that issue sort of internal to the black community, would not be an issue if it was not for the way that white culture has has degraded black people and black women, And so for to this girl, um Mocha Shatti, I'll be honest with you, it would really offend me to know

I have been in your place as far as men leaving me for white girls. And I didn't want to speak on this with Mandy. I really wanted to find um or even if we did, I really wanted to find a darker skinned woman to speak on this because I feel like when it happens to me, I don't even necessarily think it's me being black. Sometimes I'll say I'm too hood, I'm too loud, I'm too ratchet. That's what I started thinking. I like, they don't want to be with me because that they don't want to be

with me because of my tattoos. Like I started making it other ship and I couldn't imagine being with a black man that went for somebody else. This has only happened to me with my white men, which is why I can't really say with white guys, they're going for their own kind. With me. To Moka Shorty, I would say, like that is not a healthy person to be involved with.

Get rid of that. And I would also think that, like especially in college, where you know, I'm saying around, do whatever you want to have a good time, like there's there's far too many there's far too many great guys that she could be messed around now. But I'm gonna leave you with that that that that Zozo must be big in African bitch, not the African miss They do have big Zozo's and the thing that Zozo will touch your heart, that's how big it is. That's the

video that we played in the beginning. Really stay away from them, not probably Nigerian. That's a girl. Stay away from Nigerian. Dud is up your service. And I had sex with a Nigerian nigga last summer and I still think his dick is inside me. I don't remember my body. So you have that DV. That's what I asked you on the last that it was double vaginal. Anybody else it was? It was the way that dick was. It was double vaginal. Child. Well, do we have another minute

for a question or no? Alright, quick question because we have a man in the room, and uh yeah, this question is for Adam, says, Hey, Weezi and Mandy. I'm twenty two years old from New York, and I enjoy using male toys such as flesh lights while masturbating. I enjoy using fleshlights so much that I really want my partners to use them on me. But I feel that male sex toys turn a woman off. How do y'all think I should go about this? And would you ever? Would you guys ever use a flesh toy flash light

with your sex partner? So I have can I understand better? She's so Jeeves calls it a sleeve? And do you you not know what a fleshlight is. It's like it's like a synthetic pussy basically, So it's like a little tube and you fuck it and it's got like it's I you're supposed to feel like puss. They make ones that are supposed to feel like ask and it has an opening. I thought it was a real flashlight. No, no, flesh fleshlight as and it looks like a flashlight, but it's

a flesh flashlight. I put lights in that day and okay, so go ahead. I'm sorry, I'm looking for the video. I mean I would say, well, I have never used a fleshlight. I don't necessarily see the appeal, but but go for him. I think that at the end of the day, though, if you are if you are sexually intimate with someone who you do not feel comfortable being open about what you do and don't want to do, then you should not be sexually intimate with that person. Can I tell you what I think it really is.

I think that we associate sex toys with women and that you are a little bit insecure because you're like, is she gonna think, um, you know, not me, Elena, because I have these toys and blah blah blah, And it's this internal fucking things. Yeah, I agree at the end of the day, like you're weird. My thing is that before we even get to this, it's like, if you don't feel comfortable talking to like anybody that you're fucking, you should be comfortable talking to about thing like this.

And if you're not. Maybe that's not the healthiest you know, sexual relationship to be having. Absolutely, you're right. I have used one. Um, I really enjoyed it so like, um, it's the sleeve and there's like a pussy opening, so like I put it on top of him and like we have to find a fixture. Her face is hilarious. You know, I've never I've never used sex toys. Waiting on yourself? Why is there a silence in here? I've never used sexy. I'm trying to think of I had.

But do you never used like a vibrator anything? What shout out to you? You know what I'm bringing to your brunch Sunday? That big he's fuckings although I can find it does please? Are you freaking serious? I'm so serious? Why is it? You know what it is? When I was younger, Okay, when I was like when I was I didn't have sex to the college. When I was in middle Squai used to get fingered right and like this guy he used to like finger me, and I used to go home like yo, let me try this

on myself. And I just could never give myself that feeling that he gave me. I can't finger myself like men finger me, but I can definitely, well, I can't. No, I just told you, like, holy shit, you haven't had an orgasm in three months? Yeah, Like, if I don't know for three days, I'm sorry to come help. Jesse, who doesn't masturbate, who hasn't came in three months, he's never owned a sex to it? Help? Oh my goodness, three months yo. I legitimately feel like you know what Jesse.

I don't know what you're doing after, but I'm so asked me if you want to get some, not even you can get and this is ridiculous. Yeah, I've never, I've never. I don't know how to please myself. Well, I think this is actually a great should be so stigmatized for women to masturbate? Why not? It's so relaxing, I'm saying. I'm saying it shouldn't be stigmatized. You use

a very big word. I don't know. I mean, I hear you, and honestly, I think that we may not even have enough Like you, she had just mentioned earlier, there's not enough porn for her out there, and two women to your point, that are enjoying a softer kind of porn, isn't fucking out there you click on a horn hose like and that's what my sis said. I don't like that. Beat the pussy up. I don't like that. I like this stuff before quick question, do you orgasm? Orgasm?

Any fingers you are hold on? I want to stop for a second because I think the question is about to happen. Have you ever had an orgasm? I had it once? What is this? No? No? Wait, this is great? Can I be a nerd for half a second? Please?

This is such a great example of like you are someone who everybody you know, You've got it going on, You've got this amazing career, you're beautiful, all this other stuff like at the end of the day, the fact that female organized orgasms are not a priority or not a given insects the way that they are for men is crazy and this is proof of it. Matt, feel free to cut us off whenever we need to be cut off. So, Jesse, we did this, ain't we didn't stop?

How did you feel about You're not coming? Did you feel like it was his fault? Well? He we like one night like he did he eat you out? Yeah? One night? He like that's that was like the goal was like to make me do it, and so like we we just did all this stuff and you know, I don't want to go into detail about what we did, but I did do it. Do you think it's because you haven't had enough for play before? I don't know

if it's that I think that. Do you think that someone's always never really paid attention to you like they did that night? No, I feel like sex for me is something that's like, you know, I talked about it so much, but I have a very bad experience with sex, Like I was introduced to sex really really badly, Like I was molested as a child, and then like I got raped when I was older. So it's like for me, I didn't think I've never like you know, it's like

something in my mind. It's like when when when it happens, Like my mind is like somewhere else, you know. I want to just this opportunity to say that men um have said that. So I talked a story about how I have been sexually assaulted and um, how the guy told me he wanted to see me cry, and people

were leaving comments under like this makes no sense. She's like saying this one minute and talking about how dirty she likes singings in the next and you have the same thing you happened to Jesse now has issues with it. Some people can just move on and some people can't. My assault didn't make me nasty, and hers didn't make her like you know, it's just now. Well, first of all, thank you for sharing that. I've shared it before. I actually said, like i've I'm not a podcast. I just

wanted to. I just wanted to verbalize that. But I think that, um, the the idea that someone's experience of trauma or abuse to find them is false, right, And so I think that this is a perfect example and and one that demonstrates there are so many ways in which I think sex can be incredibly positive. And that's part of what this podcast does. It's why it was attractive to me in the first place. Like, it wasn't

just about funny ship. It was that y'all approach sex in a way that was respectful of that people have sex in a lot of different ways, right, Um. And it should be positive, it should be affirming. It should make you feel better about yourself. It should make you feel good about yourself about your ability to make somebody else happy as well. Right. Um, So I'm sorry that that happened, and I hope that that you can be in relationships where your your orgasms, your pleasure, your your

joy is prioritized just as much as anything. I want to get you up with someone. I'm going to be interviewing you guys will probably hear that interview first with Amelia Ortiz, who does you know who that is? She's so dope. She's like, isn't she a comedy right? No, she's like the She's a Latina chick who's like a bruha. She does like okay, okay ye, But I want to link you up with her because she does wreckie healing,

and that I think she does. I'm sorry, but recky healing is when you can clear the energies and your chakras and like really trying to let go and enjoy in the moment because that mental blocks. Orgasms are people are having orgasms without being touched. I was watching I was watching Jada Pinkett the other day say like she had to put a stop to it. She was giving herself like five orgasms, and I was like, that's just like rich people talking about how they don't know where

to put all their money. They can't the banks can't hold it. I think that's real. I think that that the ways in which somebody's sort of psychological take on sex can impact that the physicality is like the whole point, you know. Yeah, And that's why I feel like I still have a connection with Sugar, because he was just that one person who was like, we're going to do this taste. Sometimes you need to take time apart to get back together again, probably, And I wish you all

the orgasms from that. Speaking of uh, I've had to speaking of dicks worked close to the end. But I've had a situation where, um, I was with a girl and we were about to have sex, and like I touched her in a way that all of a sudden like sort of legitimately triggers him, and she was like, all of a sudden, her whole demeanor change. I was like, you, are you okay? And she tried to play it all at first. I was like, no, no, wait, are you

are you good? Having sexual trauma episode soon? And I want to bring a doctor on to talk about how this and I'm pointing to my brain and this my post are connected. Yeah, And and we stopped and I was like, look, like we don't work like where everything's fine. I'm saying, like we can just you know what I'm saying, like it's okay, it's you don't have to tell me

what happened. You don't have to tell me what any you don't have tell me ship right, just like let's make sure that you're good and we shouldn't be afraid of those kinds of moments and sex. Thank you so much for sharing the story, and Sam for being so empathetic, especially to have a man in the room and something like that so personal and Alex, can you really the one who brought that up? They're supposed to be coming up? Um, Sam, can you tell people where to find you? Or do

you have any projects coming up? Yeah, we got some dope stuff coming up. I'm really excited, especially going into the school year to work with more students on the undergraduate in the high school level. Um, so stay tuned on that. You guys can find me on all the social media's at Sam white out, you can text me three O eight um. And I'm excited. You know, I'm saying we might have t shirts coming out soon. I'm seeing and as always be would be great. I want

to free one and Jesse, what about you? And now this whon't air in time for brunch for me and you would have had a dope time already. We are going to be at brunch this Sunday for Sister Talk Live. Do you have any more coming up? Yeah? And definitely I'm definitely gonna Doe in Atlanta and I'm definitely gonna start doing like Sister Socials because a lot of guys are like, you don't do anything for guys. So I

have a lot of fun stuff coming. Might come. I think it'll be fine for you to come to Atlanta. Our fucking Atlanta show was so it was late. Huh right, it was so Alex came. It was so all the guys was like, oh bitch, you need help with home. Man, you don't know what to do with that as don't listen. I just love Okay. Sorry, yeah, sorry, where do they find you? Oh? Jesse woo that's j E s s I E w o O Underscore on all platforms. Thank you guys for coming. It's another episode of Horrible Decisions.

They've been on for the second time and hopefully we can have another threesome again. Yes, by everybody,