EP 343: Dommes, Subs & Skat Play (Ft. Steph Domme)

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This is Yones. That sounds cute, right.

I'm your girl, Mandy b the celibate one, the non ho aka formerly known as Peg the Stallion.

She's also a liar. Wow, Wow, it's called you ain't got a to not be white, Bibbs.

Actually nothing is white over here, okay except actually someone on the floor, but we'll get to that point. Weezy go ahead, and oh look, I said, Weezy, introduce yourself.

Sorry, this is Wheezy. You said, what good? This is Weezy.

Cheetah emo ho cheetah ho ho ho, the biggest ho every hoe you could motherfucking think of.

Okay, right here next to me, horrific you. And we are joined by one and a half. Could you count the guests? If the guests, we don't. We don't count him. We don't count him. I know that's right, y'all.

We are joined today by step Dom, who is a dominatrix here in New York and fine as hell. So if y'all are not watching on the YouTube, you might want to go on over for this one because she brought an accessory with her.

Yes, and you came you came real ready, mind you.

When I invited step On, she was like, do you want me to bring up Okay, you call him a sub or a slave.

He's a so it doesn't really matter.

But sometimes I feel like the word slave on these platforms be getting flagged, like if you get too crazy with it.

So I usually would be like my sub, but in person, I'm like, good.

I do like slave when I'm really wanting to feel empowered, yeah, because something about it feels a little more dirty, Like I feel like, because we can have submissive habits, maybe it's too do soli or sometimes like slave to me is like granted when I'm thinking that, I'm thinking you're doing like really everything discerted me. Sometimes when I say sub, I feel like there's like, okay, maybe you just do a few.

Yeah, But you have those like you have like slaves that they're like they'll do whatever, and then you have subs that of course they have their limits like anybody.

Else, so they still even even the slaves. Sometimes what's your subs name? Slaves love?

This is Phoenix, Phoenix, Phoenix. How do you meet Phoenix? I met him online like majority of myselves. Yeah, we're on so we're online, is it? I mean?

And we've talked about various apps here. When when you go online, are you seeking someone to date or are you specifically seeking someone to just be submissive to your sexual needs.

I personally like meeting like guys in person, but when it comes to like my work life wherever, wherever I'm at, I'll just be like, I'm a dumb and then they just like, well, this is this is how I eat, this is how I feed my family.

So it's no longer a secret. My dad doesn't know, but.

Everywhere my cowork is gonna be like, ain't that you a little sweet one?

Everyone knows though, so it's no secret.

For a long time, I was saying I was a bartender okay, which that work okay, But then my mom was like, you're making a little too much money to be a bar No.

You kind of look like, well, like you know when you see a really hot bartender and you're like, okay, if she's not working in the day, you're so.

My mom was like, what are you doing? And then I was like, well, if I tell my mom she supports me, then fuck it.

Like listen, if you get one and a half parents in on what you are. Like a few of my gay friends are like, you know, my mom's cool, my dad's not. Like it's happen half right.

So after that, I was like, it's on the open, and so I created a business oiute of it, and so everyone knows what I do.

Do you love me?

And I brought you guys stickers, Oh thank you? Which my q that has like oh wow, my website.

Me step with a QR code. You mean sticking this around the city room. Yeah, wait, get the fuck out of here.

So everywhere I go, like when I travel, this is dumbing the business way.

Okay, she has a sticker with a QR code, so you just be sticking this in like bathroom stalls.

Yeah.

I went to Wall Street and I put it like I was at like the Starbucks and Wall Street and like outside of it, I put it and then I got like so many subscriptions on my only fans are my loy fans and like.

Up, well do you see this ship. It's a fucking genius bro, Like I'm not tim in the cage. I just I don't want to say m damn.

This is hot Okay, yeah wow A few things, boy, do we think like sometimes that sex work is this last resort and while we are just mean society, this ain't last resort.

No, this is intentional, this is bitch. I done this.

So do you get okay? Well, I want to direct my questions. You di direct the phoenix?

Does phoenix ever get jealous of your other subs?

If he does, then I don't know about it because then like you know your place, so get out of place. Ah, he is my favorite service sub.

Oh so he does things that I need. What are the other subs that you have? Like, have service sub? What are the other categories of subs?

Then there's subs that's like they just send me money, just like just living life wrong y'all? Oh stop, what don't you have those types of stuffs that have good content, subs who allow me to do like whatever I want to do to them to just get.

Fans for my lowly fans.

What kind of things would someone have to agree to? Well, I do a lot of crazy shit. What's the craziest This is horrible decisions, girl.

So of course I'll do all the basics would be like paggy and humiliation Spain.

I love that that is a basic.

Humiliation as life work y'all that's regular like, but I feel you though it is.

Yeah, And then.

The ship that really sells is the things that like people are not gonna talk about or shit, right, So I like shit on a lot of stuffs. And if I can record that this is a good like one hundred and fifty dollars a video.

You we are four minutes in no Icebreaker. When you're doing a shit video, do you actually have to prep?

I know we're gonna like, No, I totally prep, like doing what Mexican food. No, I prep like, so if I know I'm gonna have a shitting it's called scatting, by the way, just.

In case, just like tomato to scat what.

So anytime I have a scouting session, I just like you gotta know, I gotta know at least twelve hours in advance, because I don't do the cheating like the laxative n So twelve.

Hours in advance. Now you're about to become a scientist.

How do you know it's gonna be the consistency of the ship you needed to It's the same.

It's just I've been doing you do so long. It's the same exact It's.

Blueberries and a green juice and.

Awakate with chips, Like that's this agocatos avocado avocado. Yeah, that's just gonna like, girl, that's avocado.

She ain't say no other language.

Wait, so blueberries avocado and what looks she about to do scatch session? No, butch, I'm about to fucking get skinny?

What is it? Or green or and green juice?

Usually like the night before, I do it in the morning between ten and twelve, like ten am and twelve o'clock, Like that's the best time for me to do it. So I'll eat a bowl of blueberries, I'll eat agata at night and then that's it and drink my water. I'll go to sleep and then in the morning I gotta go. So I usually take a shower, put on my clothes, get in a cap, and I'm at the Dungeon.

New York and my water.

But okay, wait, so how what does the consistency of the ship have to be like for it to be like really exciting.

It's like really come it's just like easy come out, Like I'm not sitting there like pushing another disgusting, but I'm not pushing.

People want like a mess? Do they want like diarrhea. That's the thing they don't want. They don't want die.

So that's why I don't do that. I don't cheat with the laxative and the col I don't do any tricks like I.

Just when you said I don't cheat, I don't cheat and know that you find it honorable to ship the.

Right wing on cue right.

Oh my god, Well we're gonna get more into step step doms, dominate tricks, and dominating lifestyle. But here we go, Okay, why not I decided to do a BDSM. Have you ever or would you rather with you? Okay, just to kind of open it up, but at this point you just said pegging was lightweight, so we'll see. So have you or would you ever devote an entire day to sex and sexual activity with no breaks, like a whole day twenty four hours?

You want a person? Or have you ever done that before? I feel like I've done that when I was younger, a lot younger. Okay, would I do that like today? I don't have shit to do.

I know that's right, but a grown adon'tance. I have responsibility.

I I to do that one day, like in a cabin or something like cabin buys he's just like cabin.

I've actually always wanted to fuck in the woods because I watched a lot of get porn and they.

Be fucking in the woods. So I want to like bend an.

Back, like I don't know, I want to get back mountain, broke back mountain.

Sorry, yeah, I said bear back, same thing they had bear back there, all right.

Second one, have you ever brought your partner to orgasm using only your hands? And if so, I would love to know the technique using just my hands, just your hands and the mouth.

Never I've made a guy come just by making out. I think he was just like super whoa he really? Yeah, that's just I think. So I was just making ours on top of him. I was just like and then all of a sudden he came and I was like, oh shit, this is what's going I came back, he got back up. We never had sex though, he just he just I don't know, actually.

Didn't make someone come from a hand job.

And I think I was doing ship that was like we all know this like double weaving thing. I took my hand on the top and so he felt fingers like this on the shine. Yeah, And I think that was what got him there, but I was just like really mixing it up. But also I can't remember why I didn't suck his dick. Yeah, I like hand jobs you do, Mandy doesn't want to put a fucking suck dick.

That's why what you mean where you were like I I'm done. Yeah, I mean no.

If you're really really sexy and I really really want you, I'm gawking all but you don't really like I enjoy sucking dick when I like you.

But like so like.

Oh, when I used to have like the Ugly Sugar Daddies, girl would tell him niggas ain't suck dick.

I was lying, like, motherfucker, go be the real nigga.

I like it, suck his dick like he got no money, got some Chinese food and gator ring.

Wait wait wait, I did have a question.

Okay, when we going back to sub service sub what kind of things does Phoenix service.

Whatever I need? So, like what if I need laundry, if I you my laundry done, if I need.

You to run like anything I need to do it, I don't want to walk out go to my leave my house.

Then that's what you're here for. So I'll just like, hey, I need this done, and then he'll do it, and he'll leave his house and do whatever.

He'll leave his house, which he lives in Brooklyn, so he'll come all the way to Harlem and then just and for.

Those of you who do not live in New York, that is about a one hour commute on the train or a solid forty five minutes and a goddamn uber.

So he just does whatever I need. So I think.

That like the very like vanilla version of the version of this is somebody that is into giving acts of service, right, Yeah, And those are love languages when it comes to Dom's and sub Can you maybe explain a little bit of how each person gets off from it, because somebody's gonna listen to this and be like, how's the sexual All he did is get your law.

Well, I think a lot of it is like the connection. They just like to be around you, to know you're black. I'm around you, I feel you're a goddess. I like, it's just a mind. It's like a mind fucking sore.

All white.

Ninety nine percent of them are whites, and they just enjoy the fact that, like they're just around me, you saying.

That they enjoy your blackness, though, does it become that's that's like such a thing and you're okay with that? Yeah, because I do feel like a goddess i am black. But it's also like the opposite, right, So, like I think when it gets racy.

But we were talking about this one, so I was like, Manby was talking about race play and we were like debating, and I was like, I don't think there's a race play.

If one is, if blackness is in the higher light. That's how I say it. That's exactly how I say.

Okay, I know a lot of dams don't do race play, right, I usually don't say nothing because I do.

Now for your types of well, yeah, you know, I mean it's weird we talk about the it wouldn't be a whole hierarchy.

But even in sex work, there's sex workers that shame other sex workers for the things they do.

It's all you know, Yeah, but what is the race play that you do? What is that I do race play?

So like with I was arguing with you, I'll talk about ancestors, I'll talk about our history, I'll talk about genetics, just like anything that we're superior at, like work. Yeah, and so they love it. But when you said they'd love to be around me, maybe it's just very queen like energy. I feel like hundreds of years ago, like when we think about servicing someone like we look at them like that, like I want to give everything to someone that is that powerful.

What do you get from it?

What do you get off besides money or service needs made, demandsment? I feel empowered, I feel I just feel good. I feel blessed to be honest girl, you are I just have a blessing.

I do want to ask you a question because you said, this is how you make your money, this is how you pay your bills and support your family.

Is he paying to be here with you right now? Yes?

Yes, But sometimes he's such a good service ub Sometimes no, I'm not like sometimes he just if I need something, just do it, like you don't got to pay me. And then other times I need you to pay this for this, like I don't want to come out of pocket for a fifty dollar UVA like you know or whatever.

And when.

I was gonna say how long what's your longest relationship you've had with a sub And have you ever crossed a boundary where it No?

I never crossed the boundary. It's two different lifestyles.

It's like the type of men I like are like manly, black, dominant type of men cross the.

Boundary, like maybe got too close even just friend. No, I had.

My longest relationship with a sub was almost two years. And then he started to fall in love with me. And then I was like, this is getting ridiculous. And then and he started to fall in love with me, so he felt like I do all this for you, like you should be with me. And then I was like, I'm not gonna be with you. And then he was like straight up, he was like, funny enough, we had a joint account, so we had an account together.

He'll put money in, yeah, and then he was.

Like I do this, this, this, this is By the time he was like trying to break up with me, we had like ten racks in the account with like and then he was like, if you're not going to be with me, then I'm gonna have to shut this account down and I'm gonna have to go buy my way.

And so I was reside now. Relationship wise, then you said you date black men. Have you been in a relationship since this has become your full time job. Now, Okay, Now I want.

To know when you write a man that was, now, well, what would the dynamic for a perfect world be like for you?

Then?

Relationship wise? Yeah?

Wait, just someone who like understands and supports me, because don't they be semi involved like hella.

No, But.

I feel like dominate chicks is very taboo, so like nobody knows what we really do. They automatically thinks we're having sex with clients, right, and which is fine. I'm not judging anybody who does have sex with their clients, but I don't. I don't even get naked. I'm like super like, I just very professional most of the time. I don't know if people think dombs fuck clients. They do on Twitter, there's like a thin line of like so many doms that have the dominame on them and they're fucking well.

And that's what I said.

I wanted to bring that exact point up because literally when you came in and I was like, oh, like, I'm dominant, But I've never attached the domb title to myself because technically I feel like I'm dominating a man when I peg them. That is penetration. That's very other times where I lead, I direct. I feel like I'm a dominant. I've probably misused calling myself a dom so many times. Yeah, because it's how I am in the

I'm just authentically myself. So I'm just a sweet, good person regardless. And so when clients come to me, it's obviously they want me to fulfill something.

So that's just my job.

I'm not here, I'm not Yeah, I'm not here to be a bitch unless you're paying me to humiliate you or you know what I mean. Like and to get clients to keep coming back. You want to make them

I feel like in our brains we think of this. Uh.

And even when I said look mean, I didn't even mean me more than I meant like serious, because I'm thinking of a dog in the way of pointing their finger and being really right.

So I am very bossy where it's like, but most of my clients are obedient.

I don't have to get bitchy.

I'm just like, sit over here, do this, don't do that, stop talking like you know, and they just they just listen.

Do you have anything? Do you like to be humiliated or talk down on? I do? You're so sweet? I want to hear it. I want to hear how you would I just get real, like you a bitch ass nigga, like oh, she just said, I just.

Turned.

They love it if they're white.

I'm like, you white bitch, Just be like yes, miss, yes, so well? Do you for your humiliations real quick? Can he give y'all a massage? Like he's here to do stop work?

But he's not here to look like, Okay, I guess it's your shoes already off. You could go first.

Okay, he needs to get his lotion because he can't prepare it. Yeah, oh he has.

He's good if you are watching on YouTube.

So we can't really low. Yeah.

And when I ask, just the field, not your Phoenix's job, but just the field.

Let me.

But I want people that are listening that are thank you. Okay, this is my favorite thing in the world.

Yeah.

Like I want people that are listening that may feel like they might want to service their partner or someone.

Oh my god, way this is good.

Yeah. I want to know, like how normal is Phoenix or do you not even know? We have a regular conversation. He's normal, I guess. But what field of work? What field of work that he does? He's Do you say how he's looking at me? I would say corporate? Corporate?

And your son? What is I guess the average? The average so more than others. What is the average industry?

You would say corporate?

So like I have a lot of like really okay, yeah, I got like a few doctors.

Okay, is it true?

Like how they would always say policemen are like the ones I want to be humiliated, Like, do you find that your clients said.

Are I don't know if I've ever had a policeman now that you say that takes them a long way to make.

Yeah, we.

Have the money to pay well. That academy Bacon Bakederland.

That's why there's so many corrupt cops broug maybe the ones I don't know when I say that to say, do you find that the subs that serve you or want to be humiliated are in very.

Demanding corporate roles? Yes, and that's their thing.

They're like, oh, I I boast people around all day, and I like, I'm always in charge, so it's always good to come in unwine and then someone's the boss of me and tells me what to do.

Is there a personality trait or maybe a common theme that your subs have besides their.

Work, besides the fact that they're all white married? Are they like a lot of them are married, A lot of them are married. A lot of them are.

Asked their wives to do this to them.

They're just scared. Usually they are really scared.

Okay, Also that the telling it's better if it's someone that like you can really lock into this role.

That's why the little sugar Dad, they gotta be married. Bro. I don't want a single ship. I don't want a single sugardaddy.

I want to married sugardaddy where arrangement is known out the fucking gate.

To be fair, mine had a lot of time on his hands to go behage. But I liked it. He likes your sugar daddy. He was fun. See, I don't want to like my sugar. I don't want to like sugar daddy.

Bit when we went to Panela and I remember like he was like wanting to pay for fusty and get girls. Like, yeah, this is great, and he was like, I don't want to make you upset.

I was like, oh you are not, please get that.

But yeah, the line was difficult to not be crossed. But damn, this is good phiside.

We listen, well, we gonna keep it going. We are gonna get into our vanilla ship. So o, vanilla ship is sex in the news. And this is a crazy one. It's a little wild, it's a little nuts.

This is wild. Yes.

So a man who broke who previously spoke about his sexual relationship with his carr has revealed that he's dumped his old motor for a new set of wheels.

There is a man who.

Is talking about his friends with Benefits relationship with his car and why it's so pleasurable. A man who asserted his love for his nineteen ninety eight Chevy Monte car Loan on TLC is My Strange Addiction has ditched that rusty engine and gotten a new car. He started the documentary back in twenty twelve. He told him to come over on.

God, can I get the left foot day? Are you getting vote them? You gotta get the getting it time?

While I reach this side note, I almost like can't wait for the switch because I'm like, this is so too good.

Okay, So he says, when you last saw me a decade ago, I was in an intimate relationship with my car, Chase.

He actually did give his car a name, Like wow, Yes, is this the TLC guy? Yes, this is the TLC guy.

So we may have talked about him before, but he's pretty much talking about this friends with benefits relationship with a fleets of wheels I do want to get to. So he turned in that bullshit car and now has a sexy black I love how they use the word sexy and sleek trying to okay, sleek sexy black Lexus he has three point thirty caught his eye. Although he made it clear that his relationship with lex that's the name is merely physical and nowhere near serious. He seemingly

There are moments where like, I have a lot of white friends, I don't think they're this way. I'm not gonna lie, Phoenix, Are you that white to car?

I mean to have? Well, no, there are but vially.

Now intimate relationships was By the way, he gotta have quite a bit of money.

The sedan maybe not so much.

The nigga got elected a ge he got three three cars minimum, which is why he thinks. And the fact that he's calling this expanding his family while he's having friends with benefits relationships with all he got multiple I want there is video.

This is him kissing Chase. I guess Nathaniel has a shrine for Chase in his bedroom.

This is what people need to play video games. You know what I'm saying, No, this is crazy. This is don't say that. This is what keeps men from kissing cars is playing video games.

I'm just saying, get another hobby.

So, you know, just like most people in relationships with family photos and things around their house, Nathaniel has a shrine for Chase in his bedroom, which includes blankets, pillowcases, picture frames that are each embedded with a picture of him and.

His old car. Okay, sick well no, by.

The way, there's another car called Adam, and he wraps his legs around him and feels like he's hugging them. They used to spend more time on the lake with him, but it's been a while. This is also an American manual.

I wonder if you give.

To jerk off in like is it on the leather? Is the steering wheel? Is it the outside car?

We will be that our sex and I will tell y'all my ex had a big, old car and it was the best car sex I've ever had.

And he was also huge.

But there would be times where he would park the car and instead of waiting to go upstairs, I would fuck him in the backseat of the truck because it was so every time we left the goddamn nude beach, we would fucking the parking lot like car sex in.

This cant fuck on the nude beach.

No fuck, no, okay that what people do that is illegal even in a sex club.

You're insign not like fucking get the cars legal? Okay, as long as nobody sees you.

It's only illegal if you're caught. She would have been a more bitch, so it ain't ill. I don't be illegal if someone sees it illegal, Let's talk about it. People don't understand how I mean.

I feel like we've talked about this, but I would love to hear you talk about putting this out somewhere.

I'm sure someone's told you you're doing something wrong. Thank you, Phoenix. That was so good. That was good. You could take this shoe off. Trying to get you see I'm a dominon dominon.

Okay, yeah, tell us a little bit about how domination domination is legal and why is it?

Or is it? It? Is it? I mean now? And then I don't know. I try to look it up. I don't know.

I've I have I have a client who's a lawyer who wrote up like a whole contract for me to give to clients just in case I cover my ass.

Really, one thing we're in that contract.

That everything is consensual, that like you can't sue me. It was just real well written lawyer.

So from from what I've learned, trying to interrupt you, but I want you to know what you're doing is legal. On the TV show, I'm doing sex cells, I've only covered I covered three dungeons, one in particular, specifically the one in New York.

You got to share. I want to come every time we record, it's about me. The third unificial goddamn.

The next night is the night you gotta go.

Y'all got to pay me, Oh no, I told you it's hard to concentrate. Okay, go ahead, you could ask Mandy's like, are you interviewed? Okay?

So on the TV show, I basically learned while going into a dungeon that the way that this particular dungeon is legal is because it's an acting.

Studio, right, So that part, I know, like writing it uns as a studio because the studio has to be anything you know now.

As a person collecting funds.

Right, the way they the what is illegal in specifically the state that we're living in, which is New York, is intercourse.

Correct, right? She said she don't set.

But then I read something that if I'm penetrating, then that's technically intercourse, Like if I'm and I have a strap on, then that's technically.

Into course it is.

Then I also read, but that's also maybe if your sessions lead there, correct. So there's this gray area of someone paying you to act out a scene and then you get passionate and do something like if you decide to peg them, that's on you.

Then I heard the whole giving the money directly like this is what I this is what I read like, given the money directly is where it's like.

The way girl, we got cash easily, I have to take the money directly.

I just be like just in case, I'm like put it on the table, and then they'll put it on table.

Now. But what about in the age of digital money, like digital current.

Because you have to send me like get deposit through. Have you ever had a payment blocked?

When I first first started, someone requested their money back on PayPal, which is why I tell sex workers now.

Never take PayPal. Never ever take PayPal. Yes, you not do it? Why they just said no, PayPal is so easy, like they'll give you your money back.

You did beat me up enough, but no, but to dispute on PayPal image into it. But also they're not going to see here inside with the yeah, exactly.

And it was a picture, so thank god it wasn't a session, but it was like pictures of my feet and then I don't know, He's just like, hmm, hey whatever, he got his money back. Oh, it's fine. It was a lesson learned from me. And I was like, I'm in La so in California County, the dungeon that I was in, do you have to pay for a space and it's legal, so basically kind of like that acting

And there's a lot of like to be fair too though, outside of fucking, they are considering a lot more things as sex work without sex exactly, which is why you being a dom, which is why even my foot page got removed. There's a lot of things that have there's no penetration, there's no sex, there's no nudity. I had a foot page during uh the pandemics twenty four hours it was shut down for sex.

This is like my what third page of me? Addie you? I was about to say, she and I've probably crazy.

We've maybe only been following each other what like six months, yes, and she's went through like three pages.

And I don't post nothing. I don't like she be.

Posting out in New York. Her page is real regular.

Yeah they smell it. Yeah, they smell it.

So though, finally they'll because at first they wasn't telling me why they was banding me, like Instagram would just take my ship and be like, but you.

Think it's also because you do your name on there is step down dom. Maybe that when they filtered through the names, like the wa that's behind a lot of sex workers as well male sex workers there, or yeah, I don't know.

I don't like they basically told me that I was selling sex, especially when they sent it back to me, they were like, you're selling sex and I'm like selling sex?

Wow, Oh, I mean to be fair.

One of the other things that I guess got tagged when our page got removed, we were posting for performers. Okay, they said that performers for our lives. Yeah, they said we were soliciting sex just by saying we wanted performers. So it's and maybe because we use bds or because when we put bir let's we put erotic poetry.

But you know what, Kim Kardashian nipple on Instagram. Yeah, no ship that. I actually don't even use those hashtags. What do you say no to? Oh, my hard nose as a domb.

And if you can give us your subs hard notes too, if they have any Okay, my heart, my hard nose are blood play.

I'm just readly not into plain and what way do people want to do blood? But blood play just.

Like needles through just drawing blood, putting blood, like just anything with their blood. They're into that. I'm not really into like playing with people blood and my blood.

So I don't even have sex a period. You're won't do it. I see someone silent over you on the couch yours is only like two days?

Well, how long is your period? Five days?

I was saying, So I'm fucking in there. Yeah, I'll fuck on the brown at least, dude, not fuck on the brown is not. I just don't feel sexy on my period, Like I'll give you head.

I don't really fuck. Nope, I'm not teasing myself. I ain't giving you weird.

It don't take me much to not feel hot, bro. I honestly like, I think I could be in the hospital bed and be like I'm pretty right, like you just go.

Okay, wa keep going? So okay, blood play age play. I don't really like the.

Like a baby, and so just teaching being on kids for eight years and then like it's just not my thing. And then they want to do things like put on a pampa run around and he's like fucking fifty six years old.

You want to run around in a panther.

It's like mommy, mommy, And I'm just like I can't roll play to this ship like this is I did it one time? That was the one time and I was and you realize no, and as you go you learn.

Is that something? Then will you try anything? Once?

I would okay, yes, and then once you realize it's not for you that I never tried the blood play, but a lot of my friends do blood plays. I've seen like their work and I was like, yeah, it's just like not my thing.

With the play is it they want you to be or they want to they want.

To be they want to be yeah, and it's like full blown like they're pampas.

They pissing on their pampas. They're the pampas.

Oh no, but yeah, someone that like be changed adult baby diapers.

Huh. They want to wear bibs. They want you to rock them, and.

It's it's weird, Like it's just yeah, it's not as we got to realize.

Bro, who am I rocking? You know?

What's you know how like subs some people associate with like a very feminine thing I kind of don't like for the most part, Like I feel like worshiping isn't necessary, like this feminine thing, Like I just I think it can be hot. Something about men and the baby and needy thing is scary. I don't really look at submission like that, but that does scare me a little bit for some reason.

Yeah, I don't like. Yeah, so age playing blood play and then your age play blood play just got your clearly, Yeah that's really it.

And then I don't order, I don't switch. I don't sub Oh, you don't stop at all. I don't stop unless I'm in a relationship. Then I'm cool being submissive in my man. But like with my clients, I've never switched. I've never subbed. What do you think it's the most common request, My most common request, my most my two number one inquiries for the longest has been scatting and pegging.

Really scattering.

He just out you're asking to be it's I get that a lot. Okay, have you gotta know walk me through it?

Because I say that she was gonna make sure we got She all make jokes about it, but like, really, what is that?

Like you do it and they're jerking off, you do it, and you stop, you do it and you do something else, like how awkward is it? While it's coming out like that'd be it? So they eat it. Let's go from step one to so they come in. You said, yeah, let's go walk us through a scout session. Okay.

They come in like, Hi, how was your commute? And then they'll be like it was great. And then by then my stomach is like okay, you really gotta go now. And so then I'll be like, well, bring the toilet because in the dungeon there's a toilet that you sit on and then the bottom is open so they can fit like their top half of their body in and they're just like laying there like.

That okay, and then I'm sitting back, got my white bees.

I got like usually, I got like a playlist that I play while I'm shitting, and.

I need to know the music. Why nah, I gotta notice we need every d I'm gonna send you my playlist. It'd be like Rihanna, like Love on the Brain.

It's like one of my favorite songs like you you Shit to Love on the Brain.

Yeah, it's weird. This might be one of my favorite things someone ever said on the show. Keep going. You put on a.

Ship, sorry, I put on my playlist and then I'm sitting there and I'm just like going, and like, guys, blueberry has so much fiber in there that you're gonna fucking go, like you're just going, and then you just I'm just going, and so it's like all over them. Obviously, it's like all over their face. Some of them will try to consume as much as they can abdi see its not that easy trying to eat it as it's coming out of your bootle.

I wasn't ready for that.

They didn't get well, were you ready for this? It gets really it gets really crazy. And then sometimes they like to just play in it like a pig in mud, so they smear.

How long are these sessions in? About thirty minutes or some hour? An hour? Yeah, wait you for that. I don't ship for an hour I'm shitting for about too minutes. Ship for fifteen hours. Now, I'm sitting on the toilet. I'm sitting.

I'm sitting there like because I'm remember I got to roplay this so like it's coming like.

Is it big enough? Like I'm bro playing, like is the ship coming out? My big up? What are you? What are it? What are like?

I know what I like to say in dirty talk because I'm basic. Oh my god, yeah, I want you to feel my pussy up. I want this, I want I need to hear this scatter dirty talk. Let's go give it to a girl, like, let's go. Is it big enough? You like it? It tastes oh, tastes good? And then they'll usually be like.

Yeah, miss, does anyone tell you it stinks? Or it's like do they like saying that?

They usually I have regulars that comfort a lot, and so they always like, just it tastes it tastes so rich. That's what they say. It tastes so rich. One time I came hungover and I was out drinking honey. Now you know, the honey ship is no joke.

The honey ship is something. Why I ain't gonna hold you that might be was Bro, No, have you shut up?

Have you wait?

Have you ever went out? Oh wait, I don't know, you're not really drinking? Hold on, Wolf, don't drink. No, I'm not gonna lie that going out on a night drinking Hennessy. Bro, I know we'd be talking about honey, Dick. We ain't never talked about that honey ship.

The next day, Bro, that ship is breaking drinking honey. It's like you can't get up and go out the next day. You gotta like sit down and ship.

That's wow. I'm I'm we.

I did want to go ahead, make sure we got to our hoard dirve for anyone interested.

Wait, wait, what ship? Were we? Yeah? She said, no, were we?

Look because I'm just saying that I had a Heney, I had a Hendy ship. That was the first time I've done something like that, like out Henny ship. And so the whole time it came out like water. And he's just like, just oh wait, you're right.

We were only on the step where you were dirty talking what comes next within the hour.

So we're in the first face.

Sometimes okay like sometimes and then after that they'll play in it. They'll use it to jerk off. That's like the one thing that they like, use it as loop.

They use your ship as loop. Yeah, and then that's it.

And then they'll come So now they're and ship and sperm and whatever the fuck else is going on down there. And then he'll get up and he'll wipe himself down with Wipeyes.

Are you in the room all this? Like do you watch them do this? Yeah? Like being watch I'm sitting there watching them do this.

It's my ship, so I'm just like, this is regular and I'm so used to it now, this is regular. And then that's he'll clean himself up. There's a there's a shower, he'll go in the shower. He'll watch his ass off. Do people want a lot of times they don't bring in their toothbrush, so they just only get Listenerene and they just got a ship in between their teeth until they go home. And then that's it and then they go they show had a great time, Dave.

Wow. And I'm not surprised because I wouldn't fucking leave you.

Now. Order wise, I do want to ask you to let us know any tip you have for women who would be interested in this dominatrix sort of lifestyle minus the sex, because I think that it does take. Did you watch YouTube videos like how did you get in the mindset to do this with hours that you're that you don't romantic? Yeah, that you don't want so and give us advice on how we can well they can say listeners being advised, but me being advice.

Okay, So how I got like it's all it's all about chrials and like you fuck up and then you learn from it and you like like so when I started off, I started in the dungeon. By the way, a lot of these corporate buildings downtown New York has dungeon and them. So I started off like that. And so I was learning through these clients, Like I would go in there and they'll like me, They'll like how

Yeah, tell me some of the things you've learned from a from a sub.

Well, I learned how to peg.

There's like specific loops for like assholes and like the whole shabang.

I learned how to peg.

My humiliation skills like a one And that came from just like doing it over and over and over and just finding new just being creative.

Really what else? You know what?

The only thing I don't probably do is the whole shabari ship. That's like the one thing that I'm like, for whatever reason, I can't get the downpack.

When when they taught you how to peg? What, like what specifically was it? Things they wanted done to them?

Was it? How was it your stroking? Was it the things you wanted to say? Like literally everything, like how you slide in there?

Right, because it's not like a pussy way you could just get in there, so you got yeah, everything and like the actual stroking and like old, what.

Should we gotta do?

You?

How you getting there? You know I might be pigging, you might be So I just want to strap on.

When I was in Paris, Oh, I just wanted to bring that up.

No, but I did. But I really did buy there because it was on fuses time.

But no, I brought it. It's in the house right now. It's under my bed and I'm just gonna whip it out whatever.

But it's like, make them come by the way. It's not that hard core.

No, it's not when you're trying to peg them and come, make them come by pegging.

It's not that hard core. So, like said, it is not low stroke. That's fine.

I got a video making a nigga come paggan no legs up in the air and he was he was stroking his dick, and then I took his dick in my hand, like I like to see it, going in and stroking your dick at the same time, like I like to see dick. Okay, So he got on his back and literally this was morning sex too. Got in that bootle hole because it was open from the night before, and literally but was so slow with it. Like at

I was stroking that nigga dick.

Explode that's the best. That's the best. So that's so you would say, yeah, it's very slow, it's very slow. I do a lot of training, so a lot of these guys they probably never had it. So I start off with like my finger really really like straight, like we you know. Then the next time he comes see me, we'll do like a vibrating plug and the stimulation from the vibrating and their plug they'll like get them open. Then we'll start with something real small and then now

I felt like it was super like I was using my hand more than stroke because I think I really needed to go slow. Remember that model guy peg It was really tough for me because I was noticing that like he almost wanted to hold my hand as think I don't know if I was his first, but like he needed to like guide it.

And I was like, okay, this is this is a lot.

I kind of want you to have a little bit of experience before I get in here.

We can't both be confused.

I know now though, to also shop with your partner because the very first time I pegged, he did not want it to look like a dick. So I went and was like, okay, I need to pack this guy, but it can't look like a dick.

So they gave me a prostate toy.

Which heard at the end, so it was like cylinder with a little with a little curve at the end. And then she was like, you want the curve to be towards the belly button. That's where the proceed is, so if he's on his back and the other way this way. But it was hard, and I realized, so I tried to use that with my second partner that I pegged, and they were like, oh, this is so uncomfortable. But the other guy, I think, just couldn't get past

Yeah, those are the ones that like more realistic. Those we don't. One, well, look at you two peggers. You sitting here saying you about to become a pegger too. He might just be talking.

I don't know.

Wait, wait, he's talking like he gonna let you?

Does she does she bring this up at all? Well, if you see joined there for my real life, that's gonna be good. Well, it's gonna be I think he's had like plugs and stuff and fingers and so he's just like, I'm like, why have you never like done peg?

And he's like, what am I gonna fucking ask for it?

Yes, that's the thing I wanted to ask you before we get out of here, only because it's something that we know having this show right, being a sexually open or sexually liberated you said your family knows that you do this for a living. Being open about what you do it does bring It does make dating even more difficult.

I do have friends that Yeah, okay, I have a lot of friends that found love doing this. But like I was saying earlier, it's so taboo that people don't know, so off rip the type of guys for whatever reason that I come across, they automatically feel like I'm doing stuff at the dungeon, and I'm like, I'm not, even like literally, you do not. I have never done anything, so it's really hard. I've always said that if I did get engaged, I would give this up if I was to have a baby.

Ah okay, now if I was married or I mean, would come back to it or you would completely.

I think by then I would because I teach, by the way, I think by then I'll probably be like a mentor hopefully own a dungeon or just like but probably not.

You you're scared that, like because like being a teacher, because I mean, to me, that sounds like a passion, right, like you seem to enjoy it. You won't even do age play because of it? Do you only get scared that they're gonna be like you can't do this shit? We see all these only fans creators that are getting fucking.

I'm not a teacher no more. I used to be. Yeah, I used to have nine two years ago.

And now do you do any sort of classes or teaching in the in the dungeon because like all of my friends that own dungeons.

Well, she's talking about kids teaching kids, right, No, I'm not teaching women, teaching women. Oh yeah, teacher with kids. Yeah, okay, but now she still is a teacher.

So she said she would do that in a dungeon that she may own, got it, I think, yeah, that would be what I think that that's all I know people do. So we've had troy On who owns a dungeon, rented out all her dungeon equipment for television shows. But yeah, she's like in her dungeon, even no sex. She teaches couples how to use things safely.

She helped She put me in a rig and taught King Noir how to like break people up with bondage. And it was also instructional.

We sitting there with cocktails and she's like, okay, so safety, safety first, this is what you need to have. And it was literally using these contraptions because of course, sex toys and all these things can fucking go up to hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Yeah, so I teach girls how to like get into the industry and like how to create a business, okay, domination.

While we're like not even at first, I was gonna say tell people that I feel like will be the biggest influx of messages you'll get from horrible decisions listeners is how to help them the way, So can you tell people how to get in contact with you for that if you do so?

My classes are virtual because I'm don't travel and teach, so it's virtual. It's about two and a half hours long, and I basically teach you everything you know to be everything you need to know to become a professional dominatrix.

Okay, there a certificate at the end.

So I teach you safety, platforms, vocabulary, equipment, how to book like just everything marketing.

And that's what I was gonna ask you the whole thing. Do you help them get clients? Well, I give you all the resources you need share.

Because there's a lot of there's a lot of websites like the average person won't know. So when you take my course, I teach you about these websites and then I'm teaching you how to actually utilize them and how to become you know, a domb on these places.

Now I'm in love with you. I'm gonna get in that court. But I want to know if there's follow up courses for.

Yeah, so walking up follow no, I do offer that if that where.

Wait, gonna have a class and they make you do like it's like something education education.

Let's bring the corporate here.

Now. Most of my girls they I give you my number and then forever they always like end up always text me randomly. They'll text me like, hey, Steph, what do you think of this? And I'm like, oh, that's great, do this or say this, and then they therapy.

She charges again, continued education. We'll let our listeners know where they can follow you, where they can find you. I know you have a loyal fans and only fans and hopefully you're everything. So you can follow me on Instagram at Steph dommy.

Is that correct? That's like my line check by the time this comes out. But no, put that in the universe. I'm sorry, I don't even know what's my it is. So it's Steph s T E p H d O M m E. Yes, that one's up.

So that's my Instagram. My Twitter is dommy stuff, so it's the other way d O M m e stuff. That's where all the real juices are. Yes, and then I made a new back up, but this is that one is my actual Dominatrix page, which is NYC Stephanie just like that NYC Stephanie.

Or you can book me. We're gonna post that game.

You can book me at dominate me stuff dot com. Oh, come on website.

We're gonna have these links in the description, so if you're listening on YouTube audio, you can.

Click on them from here and you can write me on any pot don't get.

Make sure uh the check clears hone because I do this for a living man, don't waste my time.

Thank you guys for having me.

You were talked about ship pegan and got a massage. I look, listen, y'all, this job is pretty great. But also almost seven years in, we have not went this since of detailed to scat play with any of our guests.

No, you're sorry, Yeah, very descriptive. Wow, I didn't know there was all. You didn't want to let me give my shit off. You've got it off a little bit, a little bit. I was like, can we get off the shit? Make sure you get your tickets.

We are DC and New York them the only ones left, so go to Horrorhive dot com again.

New York will be our last show.

November eighteenth we want to see all of you mother fucking whoes in the building.

It is going to be a time. A time will be had, and we would.

Recommend if you've already been to a show and you want to wrap it up, DC or New York are great places to come and check us out right, take a little weekend trip if you want to. Those will be different shows than the ones you guys stay in the Midwest and the East, the West Coast, the East.

I don't have a compass, and I do want to also let.

You guys know we are on Patreon and if you're coming to New York and we're not sold out yet, I am doing an after party play party, partnering with both NSFW and Soucia NYC. So if you've never been to a sex club before, if you've never been to a play party and you want to experience it, you can come.

You do not have to play at all.

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If you can't make it to the fuck party, I'm probably gonna do an after party in New York where we're gonna just have some house music and ratchet shit. So I'm bringing my mom to the show, which is why I can't join in on the I'm going there, but I ain't playing. But I'm gonna beat a drinks and all.

No, Jewel can't be in there. Drinks is that what you do? Listen, drinks, free rolls, shrooms is about to be a time. It sounds like a really fun time.

Oh, it's gonna be a time anyways, guys, thank you, thank you step for joining us.

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