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EP 341: Should Women Compete?? (Ft Kiana Lede’)

Oct 23, 20231 hr 11 min
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**TRIGGER WARNING**
Discussion of violent SA discussed in episode 

The ladies are joined by R&B singer Kiana Lede to discuss all things dating! 
Very interesting conversations surrounding competing for men arise .. tell us what you think!

Follow @kianalede on all platforms and go see her on tour! 

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Transcript

Speaker 1

Hey you, thanks for listening to Horrible Decisions this week. Mandy and I just wanted to present a trigger warning. There is conversation about rape, so we just wanted to make you aware of that sensitive material.

Speaker 2

Guess what decision we're about to make? Horrible decision are y'all? Welcome to another episode of Horrid Blair. This is Jones.

Speaker 1

This might be the episode where you don't need to try to sing.

Speaker 3

First off, don't do that just because we got vocals joining us today.

Speaker 2

These vocals still hit. People say they love my voice. Hey, you have a nice voice.

Speaker 3

Okay, don't do day in the shower. That thing hit y'all. I'm the girl with the voice today. Okay, Mandy B what anyway?

Speaker 2

Ya Hey, my name is Weezy.

Speaker 1

Welcome back to another episode of the best podcast ever period.

Speaker 2

We have a guest that has been asked for.

Speaker 1

We had a little mini interview if y'all checked us out BT weekend, and there's probably two people out of seven hundred and six that we interview, but it was like there was.

Speaker 3

Like four hundred people and you was one of but you should have seen to let me who is the other one?

Speaker 2

Oh?

Speaker 3

I was it Masika. I like Masika Mosika. I enjoyed Mosika, actually enjoyed. And there was a nigga, Young Pooda.

Speaker 2

You wanted him. No, people were saying, oh oh no, sorry k Malcolm Mask, Malcolm Maze, they wanted. I was like, girl, Young Poodle was on Patreon stopping my man.

Speaker 3

I'm just saying, you made the originals. You just be making stuff up. I think she just liked that nigga.

Speaker 1

You know when Sexy Red came out with that ship bitch, I told.

Speaker 2

All my niggas all.

Speaker 3

She got a I love that for you, right, She's really the one keeping this show going.

Speaker 1

I'm only fucking too, Okay.

Speaker 2

I feel like you're being honest. I actually am.

Speaker 3

I love that you said that. Come on bringing in feelings because feeling sometimes eight. I feel like you're being honest. I have six niggas in rotation, and two of them I'm sleeping with. So what I'm gonna do is one New York win La. If New York or La fucks up, bitch, the other ones can jump in. By the way, not sure if we got to introduce you, but we are sitting with the beautiful, the sunctuous canaa days in the building.

Speaker 2

Hey, hello, hello, hello, and y'all.

Speaker 3

Y'all might want to watch the YouTube for this one because she came in sheer with nipple pier things and tattoos.

Speaker 2

Okay, so if this slips off.

Speaker 1

Looking all types not, Wait, had you like flashed a titty or taking nudes yet and like posted them?

Speaker 4

No, but I've always said, like, if my nudes get leaked, you're welcome.

Speaker 1

I'm sure he bit it iss like for you exactly, I told Mandy, Like, I'm gonna act like I'm upset, but low key feel like I'm validated, Like I really do think I look better naked.

Speaker 2

Actually, I'm positive I look better naked.

Speaker 3

Oh, if I could not wear clothes, I would be like I go to nude beaches when my friends come over. Bitch, you don't see these cities in this before. So my friends were naked. We sleep together naked. The only thing I won't cut.

Speaker 2

Naked off with your friends naked.

Speaker 3

Absolutely, I wish my friends on vacation we're all naked. I'm getting in bed naked and it's literally like we're both naked. We don't me and my friend my friends don't wear but.

Speaker 2

Jama's either, I don't john like.

Speaker 3

Okay, so when you with your friends, bitch, what pj is coming from? You think I'm to buy Pj's to be around my friend. I think it's because I'm actually like pretty gay, That's why people can. But I'm also the one that fucks my friends. You don't even fuck your friend, but I'll be fucking. So that's actually probably why we sleep together.

Speaker 2

Now you have drunk moments? No, you said that, No, but I fucked my friends. We ain't got to be drunk for me to fuck my friends.

Speaker 1

You said, fucking in the day fucking bitch in the daytime would be crazy, that bitch.

Speaker 2

I drink liquor in the daytime? Like, is that it's a little bit they good for you?

Speaker 3

Listen, well they found a little I'm gonna call you out. My engineer found a little bottle of Tito's in it because I knew Drizzly was gonna take too long. This is not an ad. But also so the liquor store around here been closed.

Speaker 2

I don't know what it's three, Sorry, it's five o'clock somewhere.

Speaker 3

You mean, I did want to ask you what you've been up to since we saw.

Speaker 2

You in La Get in my life together? About it? Touring? I'm on tour right now, so I have to ask you. Do you oppose in different cities?

Speaker 3

Please tell me? Tell me the touring life of an R and B artist.

Speaker 2

I need to know. I used to do that. I don't know why because I'm in a relationship.

Speaker 3

Oh well, you guys goes with me to different city.

Speaker 2

So does that y'all be picking up people together?

Speaker 3

No? No, no, we're not not yet. Oh but it will come. No, bitch, I had a little in it.

Speaker 2

Tell us more. I'm just.

Speaker 4

We're ready, we're ready to add a third into the area or just no, not a threattle, I mean, Christine's pretty much as physical.

Speaker 2

Unfortunate. How long have you been dating? Not the woman having an account? But I know it's.

Speaker 4

So bad he can't able to tell you to me, And I'm like five months officially, maybe I'll do it.

Speaker 2

I meant your neck bag.

Speaker 3

Look, okay, Zick is not here, girl closed them mount Sorry, Okay, so five months is new? How has he been with the touring and seeing that there's people that want you, both men and women. I'm sure like he's been comfortable with that. Yeah, he's totally fine, Okay.

Speaker 2

Does it turning line?

Speaker 4

No, I think he's had to get comfortable with it, just because he's not used to like being with people that are out there like that.

Speaker 2

Dang.

Speaker 3

Well, I can't wait until you start making songs about this nigga because I know everything you have now is not about him. So I did want to ask, and does he know who promised me is about? Because that's about a nigga that you said you want to fuck forelpha, So does he know that there's a nigga in your life that you want to fuck forever? And that if

he decides to go on a break with you? Like my ex, we did thirteen breaks and I went to a nigga at the same time every time, does he know who that nigga is?

Speaker 2

It's actually I'm singing about a guy and a girl.

Speaker 4

There's different experiences, but I was feeling that in the moment. Now I'm good. I'm good on that, But every time the song comes on, no, he's.

Speaker 3

Like, I want to tell you the truth. You're only good on that because you really like this person right now? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't do breaks me neither can't.

Speaker 2

Once I'm done. It's finished for me. No no, no, no, okay.

Speaker 3

But when I say I don't do breaks, it's because a lot of people assume that when you are on a break in a relationship, you still owe some sort of respect to that partner, which is why every time me and that nigga went on a break, we broken up and I'm going to fuck someone else, whether you're upset or not, Like, I don't owe any responsibility to your feelings or not fucking someone else.

Speaker 2

Else because you felt like.

Speaker 1

I have to like get this off while I'm single, or I have to get this person on my mind, or did you fuck someone else because you've actually wanted to while you're with your partner.

Speaker 2

I mean, the promise me that we go fuck with elb of that nigga.

Speaker 3

I was glad to have him back in my life, but to me, honestly, it was it was my misconception, and y'all we've talked about it here before. Fucking someone else does not get you off the other person. And I think a part of me during a lot of those breakups, thought that I wouldn't be as hurt if I just went and felt like I could be pleased by someone else, especially the one person that I know pleases me every goddamn time, have been pleasing me for nine years.

Speaker 2

So I was like nine girl, nine.

Speaker 3

So I was like, let me just go back to the rivers and the lakes that I'm used to.

Speaker 2

This makes it easier, girl.

Speaker 1

I just had a conversation with Aniga where I had to tell him like he was like, yo, I just really want to check in, like you told me recently, like you need me to call you every day, and like I realized the other day when I called you super late you were disappointed. I want to check in about where we're at this d nigg I'm talking about.

Speaker 2

I said, well, let me just be talking light day girl. Oh yeah, you date different types. Go ahead, Yeah, So I said.

Speaker 1

Listen, I'm just gonna say this to you. You're my favorite right now. If you want to keep being my favorite, this is like, this is kind of what I'm used to. You know what I'm saying. I need the fucking text messages shit like that. If this is where you're at, if you give a fuck about being my favorite, this is what you would be doing. Don't get me wrong, and those other niggas. I'm just honestly not putting as

much energy into them. So if you don't want to do that, or if you feel like what I'm asking you for is a stretch, someone else will become my favorite.

Speaker 2

If he does all that, would you drop everybody else?

Speaker 1

Good question, girl, It's funny because he told me that he thinks I would.

Speaker 2

She's like, nope, I didn't answer my question though.

Speaker 3

That didn't get her.

Speaker 2

The truth. Okay, the truth will slitch you. He doesn't listen to my podcast? He will? Oh? I told my man he is banned from watching these types. I don't know if niggas say they don't, but they do. Yeah, he's probably gonna watch like do they? Okay, here's true, they do. They do long term.

Speaker 1

I'm really like missing the boyfriend, feeling like him and I spend weekends together. We do mad shit together, and we're involving each other. He's gonna watch my dog when I have to go do an event like I kind of like that. However, are the qualities that he's showing me things that I would want in a long term partner.

Speaker 2

I don't know.

Speaker 1

The reason that I'm not really sure though, is because a nigga could look at me and be like this bitch has a sex podcast. She talks about niggas every day, she's fucking done x y Z. She lives in two cities. Not a woman i'd want to be with, and then boom, you end up falling in love with me. So I don't fucking know that's really the answer.

Speaker 2

I don't know.

Speaker 1

I could say from what I'm looking at, maybe some of those qualities are something that's a fit, but I really don't know. My life isn't conventional, so maybe my relationship won't end up being either.

Speaker 2

I love how you can put all those sentences to say no. I'm all them to say no, waiting special. Then come on, Keanu, this is your interview. What are you doing? Actually? Welcome, guys, I'm gonna interview. The girls always do this, I'm sorry. What makes them special?

Speaker 1

I think is that I go on a lot of dates and I don't find anyone else as to be one as impressive.

Speaker 2

Two, I think the other fablest thing.

Speaker 1

God, I even cares the truth, like I do find the way he lives his life to be impressive.

Speaker 2

I also like the way that he treats me.

Speaker 1

But three, and this is very surface level but I can't explain this another way. Talk to a friend of mine recently, and I want you all to tell me if you have someone in your mind like this the first date I had with him, I can maybe think of a few other people in my life that the second I saw them, I was like oof, like they're fun, and I watched him in his brain.

Speaker 2

Thinking like, oh, she looks good, and he was so intense.

Speaker 1

And don't get me wrong, I fucked with niggas that may be even more conventionally attractive. But something about him and me in the way it was going to where like it's very undeniable. I literally couldn't explain it. I remember he said, no, it's like some movie shit that when you feel like that when you're looking at someone that is surface level, but.

Speaker 2

It ain't not. I led to a three year relationship with a narcissist. You don't like that about each other? Oh? Absolutely, because always.

Speaker 1

For you.

Speaker 2

But also it was the pandemic.

Speaker 3

We spent the first twenty days together and then I got flewed out of Florida before I.

Speaker 2

Made up my boyfriend. Before I made my boyfriend.

Speaker 3

If he was getting flued out, Florida was the place to go Florida and Atlanta during the panorama. But the whole time I was there, I was with a friend, so I wasn't flued out for sex. But I was there with a friend, and the whole time I could think about him. I was like, Wow, I just spent all this time with someone. I can't wait to get back to that.

Speaker 2

That's less.

Speaker 3

No, no, no, no no, it wasn't less because we literally were playing uno. I was cooking for him, we were watching TV shows, things that I hadn't done.

Speaker 1

It wasn't like about physical like looking at someone and being like him.

Speaker 2

Okay, wait this was narciss yes, six seven ball head older. I realized.

Speaker 3

Also he looked like this nigga I met All Star weekend, so I probably won't like.

Speaker 2

This is literally, oh, this is literally the same situation with my ex. It's so bad.

Speaker 3

Bald bald ball ball eleven years older than me, seventeen years older than me, and a narcissist.

Speaker 2

Yeah, and I was with him for a year and something. Yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna lie, I guess is good.

Speaker 3

No, I ain't gonna hold you keep the ball niggas away from me.

Speaker 2

I ain't gonna hold you, y'all.

Speaker 3

These two fingers, I know they put boodle holes and pussy. They now to braid your hair, nigga, come to me with a fro.

Speaker 2

I got you. I will core roll them. Things you want fishbones like bad? Why I used to? Do you want braids and beads? Whatever you want? Bring your ass to me with somebody? Do you think I like A I'm taking it now.

Speaker 3

I ain't gonna hold you. Bring your ass. I will learn how to retwist your hair from YouTube because the dread.

Speaker 2

Now, let me ask you something.

Speaker 1

That's why I was saying, I don't want to talk about spending time. Okay, what I'm talking about I really want and even people listening, I want you to tell me that attraction I'm talking about is it also mutually affirmed? Like do you have someone that you've seen like that's what I'm getting right now.

Speaker 2

And it's crazy.

Speaker 1

I mean I could be talking and he's thinking the same thing I am, like, Damn, you look good, that's.

Speaker 2

What it's okay. Are you feeling like you've had that before? And can you think of maybe how many times that's happened to you? Not many?

Speaker 4

I have many, if at all, I mean a lot of shit now happens over social media, so it's like you can't really you might be thinking that, but over the fucking phone. You know, this situation was so different because it was like we met through CALLI.

Speaker 2

We met through CALLI, and it was like, definitely had that moment. Why don't you like, would CALLI be the one?

Speaker 1

Then?

Speaker 2

Do you feel like no?

Speaker 1

Like dead as so thinking about introducing a partner, Mandy talks about how she had friends in her bedroom. I did the complete opposite. I would rather a stranger or someone I'm not that fan. How do you feel like you and Callie are close but you guys are making out any flirt and shit? I don't know you talked too, but would a friend be someone that you'd want to invite in or Yeah.

Speaker 4

We actually talked about that, and it's so funny. When Callie watches this, she's she's gonna love it. But we talked about that. But I think he's more comfortable with it being someone that was stranger, just because you know, it's like or what you know, Callie's really close to us and probably.

Speaker 3

That, Yeah, she lives literally a block away, so no, a friend that live in another state. I'm done with that. That's none of my stranger. Like I want to just find a stranger. I already have like the picture of what I want to.

Speaker 2

Do it tell us, tell us how you want this to go down? Okay.

Speaker 4

So the thing the only thing that's stopping me is like I'm I want it to be fun obviously, okay, but I also don't know what I feel like is going to be acceptable or not make me look at him a different way.

Speaker 2

Because I want to You don't know your boundaries exactly. I want to be this.

Speaker 4

I want to be the subject, like I want to be like the main character. So so I want to be and he'd be fine with this.

Speaker 2

So it's so what's ideal?

Speaker 4

But like it's it is me doing most of the action okay, okay, most of the eating, you, sucking, you, kissing, you, flipping, you doing everything. Yeah, and people are fucking. I just don't know who's fucking.

Speaker 2

What do you want him to?

Speaker 3

Then you want you would be comfortable than him being the pillow princess and the two of you getting onto him and you directing, you coordinating, and then yes, I'm the coordinator.

Speaker 2

Now I would love to know in your scenario, because this is where Weezy and I also differ.

Speaker 3

Did she get to spend the night and cuddle with y'all or do you send her home after good night?

Speaker 2

Thank you good night about that night too.

Speaker 1

So in a perfect world, my perfect unicorn experience was I was saying I was saying, she gotta go the second we fucked her and I realized like she like kind of knew her place a little bit.

Speaker 2

I liked t having her around. Plus we were in a little of drugs.

Speaker 1

But but like she was a vibe though she was like, what are you cooking this nigga tomorrow?

Speaker 2

And I was like why.

Speaker 1

She was like, because I'm gonna eat that with y'all and eat you. Like she was fun, but it doesn't like she made me feel like she was two into him and I felt way more comfortable. Yeah, so we were like we had warning sex together, Like I really genuinely enjoyed that. And I think I was like, she gotta go, she gotta go, because my own ego wasn't prepared for how I might feel.

Speaker 2

But you might be all right, what does he here? You going now? At the camera? Don get dang. I can show you, but we're not showing the cameras. Wait, can you held me my phone? You have it, let's talk about how well I don't.

Speaker 3

I don't even so I'm gonna be honest, I don't want to see it. Okay, I will, but list this is my phone screen.

Speaker 2

Oh are you fucking kidding me?

Speaker 3

And now oh oh but he's handsome, he's oh no, no, lie, I thought you gotta keep just that just and that was just a profile in the army. That was literally the back of his head in the army, like the same type of nigga.

Speaker 4

This is no literally like it's disgusting, it's honestly discussing.

Speaker 3

But also this is how simple we are. We literally just saw the We just saw the back of his head and an arm and we were like, yeah, yeah, yeah, but you know, what, do you think that you'd have a threesome type of girl?

Speaker 2

Because I do. What do you mean?

Speaker 3

We have the who hive here, and we have a lot of different types of listeners.

Speaker 2

We have the same niggas. Look at this good.

Speaker 3

A little lighter, oh my god, yeah he's a little lighter, and his dreads are a little thicker, Oh my god.

Speaker 1

They're not free form I mean they are free for them. But that's how in the locks I am right now. I want to fucking do it all. But anyway, so okay, you would be We're gonna help you with some steps for your for your first three.

Speaker 2

So I bank with him.

Speaker 1

Now some other questions I have for you. So when you are building a relationship, when you said we're not ready yet, what are the type of things that you were thinking? Because when people write in smandy and I I was in a thro before. I've had a lot of threes mix partner. She had me to sex clubs, and so people ask a lot of questions, I want to do that?

Speaker 2

Sam back on a weekend, I'll say, sex club is what she wants. I want to do that so bad. Do you want to just wait? If you're in LA my friends are throwing in l A one, I'll connect you. Okay fantasy So okay, so.

Speaker 4

My fantasy is to just fuck my partner, but in a room for all other people.

Speaker 2

Oh, you liked you want to be watch that?

Speaker 4

I want to Yeah, I want everybody to be fucking too like I enjoy that.

Speaker 3

I want to be I mean one of the best, one of the best things that I did was like eat my man's ass in front of a room full of people.

Speaker 2

And it was like great. I was like, oh he was shameless like that.

Speaker 3

Wow, oh yeah, oh I don't know what he was doing because my head was an ass. Like but the room, like everyone in the like we made sure we were in the middle of the room.

Speaker 2

And this was during COVID, so like there was only there was only ten.

Speaker 3

Other people in the room, like they limited it to like twelve.

Speaker 2

To fifteen weeks. This quarantine is crazy.

Speaker 3

You'll chill, you sound judgy. It's good, it's good, it's good. All right, only call COVID after Mexico. But in Mexican we were out of resort.

Speaker 2

That money. I'm sorry. You know now I'm at the point where we could deny a check. Here go. We were like we still gonna go. We were like, they want to fucking find you. We had to wear.

Speaker 3

Masks, gets us to do all that going. When you got through that resort, there was a phone party.

Speaker 2

Bitch Nigga was drinking champagne. All the people's asses. Oh no, I'm about you. You might be real. Yeah, you are ready, you are ready.

Speaker 4

I'm just like so excited to explore because I don't. Everybody has sex, Like, I don't understand why we are why, right, Like, it's so crazy.

Speaker 2

But you know why we shame it.

Speaker 1

Everybody has sex, but we have this idea of what we want people to see us as one because we know how other people are thinking. So for example, I could be in a room full of sex positive people in this moment, but if I told you guys that had a train ran on me last night, maybe one person would secretly think I'm a whore even though So that's the there is some shame in stigma around it.

Speaker 2

Right. So it's like, yes, everybody has sex.

Speaker 1

But there's a limit to what we think someone is able to do and still have a good idea of who they are, right Like, look at how the Internet is treating Britney Renner, Like, I don't think that there's anything wrong with Britney Renner being hull. I do think some of her fucking bullshit about kids or baby daddies or some of her other ideas are crazy, but it's not the whole shit.

Speaker 2

Yeah, but we can't.

Speaker 1

Wait to tear her up, and by we I mean psciety about a lot of her thoughts A lot of her opinions, and so people will hate watch something because they think they have this self inflated idea of who they are, like their moral ground is better than ours because they didn't fuck thirty five niggas, which is definitely a lie. But it's really that it's that we all have sex, but there's still this like hierarchy of what's acceptable.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I'll be honest, I wanted to ask you a question.

Speaker 3

In the perception of you, not only as artists, but in dating, you actually look like sex.

Speaker 2

I don't know, like figure out right now? Have you never gotten that before?

Speaker 3

Like you ooz and and that's what I think a lot of what like sometimes it can be a compliment. Sometimes it's like, oh, this keeps me from looking like the girl next door or someone that maybe someone will wife.

Speaker 2

Maybe I look like the fun girl. But have you gotten that before?

Speaker 3

And do you kind of like I mean, with this outfit, you're definitely living in it. But what does it mean to you for a woman or a man to look like they oose sex?

Speaker 2

Like they just look like they Oh my god, get it, give you. I mean, I love it. I love it. I think honestly, when I was younger.

Speaker 4

It used to really scare me because I'm being over sexualized as a sixteen year old and a fifteen years that's what's fucking disgusting. Yeah, So I ran away from my physical appearance and my sexuality for a really long time until I felt comfortable with it within myself to be like, Okay, I'm.

Speaker 2

Beautiful, like I'm sexy.

Speaker 4

Let me show my leg with my own power, you know, with my own confidence, because I was told to do that.

Speaker 2

For what did you do to get there?

Speaker 3

And how did you also shy away from, you know, being looked at as a sexual object at a young age.

Because we do have some of y'all that love to tell us y'all been listening to us since high school, and it's being like wool dang, really, but for someone who's who's maybe you know, even eighteen, let's make it that like eighteen nineteen being sexualized, that's a space where you're also really insecure and you don't know how to maybe say no to advances or that is also one of the things that maybe makes you feel validated or wanted, is that these men want to fuck you, because babe,

we all know in our twenties we thought that that meant something. We thought of a man wanted to put their dick in us and fuck us that ooh we're beautiful, ooh we're.

Speaker 2

Worrying that I thought of they were sucking me. Ra all that done something.

Speaker 3

But see, and a lot of people in their thirties and forties still think that dumb test notion too. So I wanted to to ask you, like, how you protected yourself in your sexuality and then also how you found the beauty in also your sexuality both.

Speaker 2

Ways, that's a good question.

Speaker 3

When I was younger, I don't think I protected myself necessarily, okay, because there was a lot of people that I trusted, and like, being on my own that young in LA made me really vulnerable to that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2

And you know, it was a lot of older people telling me, you.

Speaker 4

Know, show your leg, do this, do that, and you listen to people that are older than you because they think you think they know more. That's what we told or even people that were like predators in my life when I was so young, being fifteen in studios by myself, it was like, oh, this guy says this, Okay, well I should listen. And then it ended up being like something super creepy. And I remember like my parents were super strict, so I would literally hide things that were

going on with predators from my parents. Wow, because like we had this rule where you know, they would check my phone all the time. I wasn't allowed to have boyfriends. I was when we were in text boys twenty six. I wasn't allowed to text boys until I was like a freshman in high school.

Speaker 2

But they would still check my phone all the time.

Speaker 4

So it was like it actually hindered me because I wasn't able to navigate and have those conversations right and what was wrong exactly were like with men. And then sixteen fifteen, I'm out in La by myself with these grown ass men who were all fucking disgusting.

Speaker 1

Have you seen the video of a father calling the police. There's a ring I saw it on Van Lathan's page. There's a ring camera recording the police. He's like, yo, I called you guys like ten hours ago, and he was calling about his eleven year old daughter who was talking to a predator online. And the woman, a woman cop said she's a He's like, she's being manipulated to take naked photos of herself. And she said, do you know that your daughter can be charged with soliciting child porn?

Speaker 2

Did you see this? No?

Speaker 1

And it's on video and the dude is like, excuse me, she's eleven years old.

Speaker 2

She's like, yeah, are you aware?

Speaker 1

Like she was sending on child phography and he was like, you guys, have a nice night, Like wow, I aren't even discussing back and forth. It was one of the craziest things I'd probably seen online all year. The comments were insane. I'm hoping and pretty sure these people have gotten fired, but like I.

Speaker 4

Hope so wop she's been through to make her think that, Like what the fuck put that in her head?

Speaker 3

I'm not gonna lie be okay to say something oh the cop Yes, yeah, I was gonna say the eleven year old. I think seeing what social media has done now and the access like to be fair, I think when I was eleven, I was using fake pictures of jane i Eko in the mall like this is me and I'm sixteen and really I'm.

Speaker 2

Twelve or thirteen.

Speaker 3

So literally, I don't know if y'all remember, like all the airbrush photos I forgot. Janae Iiko had a whole bunch online and I used to find them all in those message boards where I used to read that you fucked all of the b twok members. But Janey, you know, was a cousin, so she was floating around in those message boards. So I use her pictures all the time because I was younger, but I had never gotten to the point at that at that moment where I would

use sexual pictures. However, now where bikini photos, bathroom photos, mirror pictures of all your favorite celebs, I mean, anyone younger I would say than twenty four to twenty five.

Speaker 2

Rihanna's nipples are out for everyone, like.

Speaker 3

Kim Kay, and just the way that we have almost glorified as well just accepting your body. I think that there's a different narrative being taught as well to children. Yeah, and it's it's I think it really is the parent's responsibility to have those conversations. But it's really hard because you can have it and then they go to their friend's house, you can have it, and then they're at school longer than they're with you.

Speaker 2

You right.

Speaker 3

I just think we're in a very very scary era of protecting people but also holding people accountable and I just talked about this. There's a lot of layers to it, so I don't want to get into it. But we're from Florida with some Florida girls, and they just passed the law in Florida were pedophiles who violate anyone under twelve years old the death penalty, and so I mean, that's not the right thing to do. But again, it's

unfortunate when law enforcement, Well no, it's unfortunately. Yeah, Well to me, it's well, only there's a few there's a few things with that only and recently spoke about it.

Speaker 2

But I think when you I was all for it, I'm like, yeah, kill them. I don't like them.

Speaker 3

But then when you get into well, not only wrongfully accused, but proof and so to know that anyone under the under twelve has to prove that this happened to them, what that looks like retraumatizing children to make something ballot or make or have enough proof to really charge someone. Seeing how awesome men don't want to listen to women when things happen, or the fact that depending on the pennies a woman has, people may think that you invited on Like we talked about that case in Germany, she

had lace Spannies on. She was right, and the literal court threw it out because she was like laate Spannies. She asked for it. So I just think that we're also in this place where we're dealing with men still in very high positions that really don't care about us.

Speaker 2

Look at them taking away our rights to have kids.

Speaker 1

I mean, I think that maybe there's good that'll come out of this more than that it's all too good that comes out soldiers dying more. And you know, I say that all the time when people are like when they used to talk about protesting and shit, oh my god, what about the black owned businesses? Oh fucking well, cities need to get destroyed, burnt up. That's what the fuck shit.

Speaker 2

That's how my brain works.

Speaker 1

I don't give a fuck who falls down for the end of the road to look better. Okay, So that is kind of how like my maybe little Malcolm X's brain works.

Speaker 4

Come on, Malcolm A really funny enough cities have burned down, yet she's like, we're still paving the window.

Speaker 1

Honestly, I'm just a very radical thinker in that way, Like I kind of don't care. I think that like we're so backwards in many aspects that like, I don't think about the what if this person that person? I mean, anyway, Beach, I found a vanilla shit and I'm curious to know if you've ever had an injury, because.

Speaker 3

This week, what did you say vanilla shit? Van van is our sex in the news segment. Oh okay, So this is something that really happened that probably made the New York Post or some crazy news outlet.

Speaker 1

In October twenty nineteen, a woman named Emma McGuinness was celebrating her thirtieth birthday at Walt Disney.

Speaker 2

But you too old to be celebrated.

Speaker 1

She got on a water slide Typhoon in a typho lagoon and experienced a painful wedgie dear vaginal lacerations, so she filed the lawsuit on the water park where she took the Humungo Cowabunga water slide. Disney said he puts riders in an enclosed body slide, sending them on a two hundred foot drop in the dark, and it sprays their way to a surprise ending. So she was wearing

a one piece swimsuit. Things ended painfully despite listening to the ride operators who told her to cross her arms, laid back, you know how they do that whole thing when you want to slide. So, the impact of the slide and her standing at the standing water at the bottom caused her clothing to forcefully be put between her legs and water was violently forced inside of her.

Speaker 2

She experienced immediate pain. Blood rushed down her legs.

Speaker 1

She was taken to a hospital and they sent her for a pair for kindacologic injuries, severe bodily injury to her vagina, and she got fifty thousand dollars.

Speaker 2

Bitch, that's not enough.

Speaker 3

Well, well, this is the thing, which is why when I saw this, I was like, oh, we got soup for anything now. She literally only sold for her surgery. Colls like, so that's all enough. Well, no, I felt the same. She had literal damage done to her intestine. So it went also so far up like when I was hearing and reading further into the details of what actually happened.

Speaker 2

I think that's the thing.

Speaker 3

They probably were able to protect themselves because they do tell you the exact way. They could also probably say thousands of people have ridden the slide. This has never happened. This is a once and a you know million chances that.

Speaker 1

On Good Morning America, my vagina was beautiful. I called horrible decisions. Everybody wanted to eat it.

Speaker 2

And now my clip is gone. Yeah, not my clit is.

Speaker 1

Have you ever had a sex related injury, even though this one was a water slide, like, I've definitely not been able to talk the next day from the throat fucking ooh.

Speaker 2

I've definitely had some soreness, some soreness, but that's a nothing. You've been able to walk even fine.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I mean there's definitely it's not an injury like it. It's definitely uncomfortable, but I kind of liked the pain because it feels like, Okay, I remember last night.

Speaker 2

Every time I.

Speaker 1

Last night, every time my cough and I laugh and you feel you, I can feel you.

Speaker 4

You're still here with me, baby, You're still He is.

Speaker 2

Coming right out. No, just like anal sex, you know, shit comes out differently. The next twenty four.

Speaker 1

Hours, I feel my mind had a tilted uterus and I literally was like, oh, who is he?

Speaker 2

I wouldn't even want them. I'm any here. I do not want Yes, you know what's crazy? Birth control that works for me and There's been a lot of like, what does that mean that you've been pregnant before? Or you just gave me I actually have been pregnant off of which one?

Speaker 4

Uh So I tried all the pills. I tried the shots, Like the pills would make me like super depressed or make me gain weight. The shots made me gain weight really bad.

Speaker 2

Then so different.

Speaker 4

So then I started trying to do this natural thing where I would take my temperature every morning as soon as I woke up and mark in my calendar and then it would tell me when I was ovulating. So I was doing that and that's just really tricky, Like you wake up.

Speaker 1

Don't give me a better The rhythm method didn't work for you. Had a while Saturday night, I told you, I think.

Speaker 2

The rhythm method is I mean also, I was also twenty.

Speaker 4

Like I was like you, I don't really know your body. I did not know my body, okay, So yeah, then I got pregnant. That fucked okay literally and that's how I ended up pregnant.

Speaker 2

So you got fun.

Speaker 1

I've been losing the rhythm method. I was pregnant the last time at twenty five on thirty two. I have not had any kind of cream price stitch during ovulation. Now I am really on time though, like twenty eight to twenty nine days like this, Like it's not off to the point where it's a little scary. And now that I'm like sleeping with someone new, and I'm just like, you know, new people knew. One person new new.

Speaker 3

No you, he adds a celer went through together.

Speaker 2

Yeah, one person is new.

Speaker 1

I'm literally like, oh god, now I have to sit here and talk through this shit with this nigga now, like because I can't sleep with two people without condoms, right, and I've been fucking one person for years with a condom.

Speaker 2

So I'm like, okay, maybe you and I could take a chance. Bitch.

Speaker 1

This shit is nerve wrecking. I forgot what it's like to fuck somebody like this. Oh my god, it's none juw. That was Saturday. It's Tuesday. It's been all my mind every day. Am I with child?

Speaker 2

It's October? I don't know three I'm fucking ovulating on October eleventh.

Speaker 1

But I'm like, let's do Like I am scared, and I don't know if the anxiety is worse or getting fat from birth control is worse.

Speaker 2

And now I realize that sex is so awful, bitch.

Speaker 1

I want to fill out my cream piy fantasies, no pun on the fill like that shit is fucking hot. I have a crazy like, oh my god, come in this pussy kink.

Speaker 2

I just think putting it a sex. But you had like moments and bit or you always.

Speaker 1

In between your condom, always condoms and or with my ex boyfriend, just complete rhythm method.

Speaker 2

But like, yeah, I've been on some shit, bitch.

Speaker 4

Wait, so even when you were with your ex boyfriend, still condoms every time?

Speaker 1

No, no, no, we didn't use, but we were. We weren't doing creampie shit, especially during opulation. So right now I'm not doing it while I'm ovulating. I'm just saying it's making me check this period track every five minutes.

Speaker 2

Bro.

Speaker 1

I started getting a little upset today and hungry, and I'm like, am I pregnant?

Speaker 2

It's been four days? Like I am scared.

Speaker 4

Have you took in a pregnancy before because you were scared? Have you ever had to take Plan B?

Speaker 1

Yeah, but I don't want to right now because I'm so on time.

Speaker 2

Also Plan B I hate it.

Speaker 1

First of all, everybody remembers the Plan B in jail story where I had to slip up where I was fucking with this gangbanger and I had to take plan B. And then he did the courtesy called like, how are you feeling? Because you know what makes us cramp? I hate that whole thing.

Speaker 3

I don't want to deal with this. I want to I'd rather deal with that than an actual baby. Call me and ask me if I'm cramping. Nigga, call me and I'm gonna tell you.

Speaker 2

Do kno my period on early, but it's god damn peel, but it ain't no baby. I'd rather that than a baby. Brother.

Speaker 3

Man.

Speaker 1

I go to last lap right, shout out to bigger this stuff. There's a chick there who's pregnant. She's a bartender, and she was saying to me, I'm like, I don't even realize you were pregnant. Maybe I'm so drunk when I come in here. The first thing out of her mouth she's mad, funny. She goes yup to playing bes man. This baby kick throw yes.

Speaker 2

I didn't want to hear that. The night right there, the night that's a.

Speaker 3

Fighter, a fighter, Get the fucking egg.

Speaker 2

You a gift card. This baby couldn't what She's like, can you imagine two playing bees? And I was like, no, I can't.

Speaker 3

Well, maybe one canceled the other out too, Like maybe you're not like you know how, you're not supposed to double up condoms. You might not supposed to be doubling up playing beas double up condoms, no, because they can they can break if you double up condoms. People double up dummies, probably twenty year olds. Maybe, like let me get some extraction. Why that's what she found with the extra plan B who told her to take two Plan B?

Speaker 2

Right now, we all know it's just one. It's just one. Look even we all know it's just one. She's Latina, you know that extra five? Yeah? Well up, bro.

Speaker 1

Me and this nigga was having a conversation this weeker right about uh people Like He's like, oh, you know, when I date women with young moms, they kind of act like this when I date you were older moms. He's like, I've noticed this trend in women. I'm like, that's really interesting. He's like, most Latina shicks I've dated have young moms and their relationship to their mom is so sister like whatever. He's like, when I date like African girls, or Caribbean girls, they kind of.

Speaker 2

Have older parents.

Speaker 1

He's like, it's this fucking weird thing of how the women treat me. He's like with the younger moms, He's like, I noticed that, Like they have a little bit of gender roles in different like standards. And he's like, now, when I'm meeting women on a first date, I low keep be asking how old their parents are.

Speaker 2

Wow, isn't that weird? And it's just interesting because I don't really be Probably that's really people have a no fantasy. Be careful. He might like that they be hecky licenses. He might be I'm just saying, no king shaming. Austin, Texas. I'm coming there next week November first.

Speaker 1

Come and party with me because I'm the host of Broccoli City's Coco Butter Afrotech.

Speaker 2

I've never been, but listen, my husband might be here and it's.

Speaker 1

Gonna be warehouse block party vibes all night long featuring spins by Jay Murphy and DJ Cody Terrell. It's on Wednesday, November one at the Empire Garage. The show starts at seven point thirty. The link Coco Butterparty dot com. Click in the description of this episode. Get your tickets because I'm trying to shake some heads. Now, hor dur segment. I'm going to give a sex tip because I just tried something new and we normally ask our guests, but

I definitely want yours. But bitch, I had sex with heels on. I know that that sounds so basic.

Speaker 2

Bitch, if you want my cavs, don't want that workout? You got it? No, because you don't put I'm on the bed. Oh you didn't stand up? Oh girl, I had to put my feet and let me show you. So you have a dress on? Please beat beat.

Speaker 1

I Basically when I was getting I kept need like this, okay, I had them up and they were up in the air. Oh girl.

Speaker 2

It was like fucking a striple hole.

Speaker 1

Indeed, in the middle of the sex because I looked like a little striple hole, I was like asking him his name.

Speaker 2

I was like, you got a girlfriend, and he was looking at me like this bitch is crazy. Bro.

Speaker 1

I was in full role play mode because these one god damn Steve Madden's shoes.

Speaker 2

Now I'll just put some goddamn shoes on them. That's it.

Speaker 3

If they brand knew even better. I'm too clumsy. I'll put that nigga in the eye with the heel.

Speaker 2

Oh. I was really yeah.

Speaker 3

I ain't got no coordination, a bitch halfway. I ain't got no rhythm, but I could throw the ass back and that's about it.

Speaker 2

Do you know, don't be asking me to coordinate to do a routine in the bedroom. Do you talk with shoes on? I don't think I've ever done that before. Do it tonight?

Speaker 3

Bro off the stage, off the stage, on the stage, not.

Speaker 2

On the No, keep the heels on. Go back to the bay and get it now. Sex tipt from you and I know you got one. This is like very on the spot. You guys, what did you do? You not listen to the show? We just talked to you like three months.

Speaker 3

Ago, and god damn la, I know we ain't got a will for you to spend today.

Speaker 2

But I like the wheel. I like games.

Speaker 3

I felt like youmn no girl, we want to get to know you and your sex tips and how good you are in the Bedroom's your new finance man.

Speaker 2

That's all? Yeh? No, Okay, let me think about it. What got him to be all about you?

Speaker 3

You said he does everything for you, act of service, He shows up for you he clean.

Speaker 2

Like, that's why I'm not. I love he want to be the third.

Speaker 3

So I just know what even a relationship wise, like what is your tip to getting a guy to even show up for you like that? Like did you do something specially in the bedroom that he's brought up or did you show up differently with him than you have in the past.

Speaker 4

First in the bedroom On the bedroom topic, I'm just always down to do anything, and I think me being so open about that lets people like I'm so open, like upfront, like I try anything.

Speaker 2

I literally try anything once. Is there anything that you probably like it?

Speaker 3

But is there anything that you've tried once that you're like, Okay, I'm not gonna do that again.

Speaker 2

No, okay, what do you think of something? I tried something that I said I was never gonna do. Girl, tell me.

Speaker 4

I said I was never ever gonna say daddy never. I was like, absolutely, I have too many real daddy issues to do that. Absolutely not same Now I'm doing it all.

Speaker 2

This him Dad.

Speaker 4

I never thought. I literally never thought. I always swore on my grade.

Speaker 2

Did he ask you or did you just feel like it's given? Dad? I asked him, Okay, are you into that?

Speaker 4

Because I had told him literally within the first week, I'm not doing that, like I'm down for anything.

Speaker 2

The one thing I won't do is do this. And he was like, okay, fine, like.

Speaker 4

And then I asked him if he wanted that, and he's very like he just wants to keep me happy and like.

Speaker 2

Feel the best I would ever feel.

Speaker 4

So he was like, I'm not like crazing it, like I don't need it, you know, like it's fine.

Speaker 2

I was like, but you want it.

Speaker 4

And he's like no, like I but I can tell in his face he's like I don't know. And I was like, ie, someone, I will fucking try it. Fuck it, I'll try it because I felt comfortable with him, like I felt safe. I never felt that safe with someone ever before in my life. Wow, ever, like to the point where like when I got raped, I got raped anally and that was like so bad because you know

that's just yeah, no, oh you're marry. And I never could do it after that, Like I've tried it with people and started crying and like I just could not do it. He's the only person that I've been able to do that with ever, and I have to because I was so happy they just felt healed.

Speaker 2

From that experience. Wow, it was really so crazy. I was.

Speaker 4

Nineteen, damn Wow, the guy was twenty six.

Speaker 3

What was that conversation like with your partner, Like to know that this was a healing moment for you but also a moment of overcoming trauma something that I mean a lot of people who've experienced assault in various ways, they feel like that is absolutely something.

Speaker 2

I'll never be able to do.

Speaker 3

You thought that you would never be able to do it, and now you found a partner that you're safe with doing it. That after talk, that aftercare whatuld that look like when he saw you crying or you talked.

Speaker 2

After the tears.

Speaker 4

I'm like, he was just hugging me for so long and he was like, I'm so grateful that you do that with me and that you feel so safe with me, And I'm so happy for you and I'm so proud of you. I'm so happy that you got to enjoy the experience. Like it was just like the most beautiful moment.

Speaker 2

It was beautiful. That was such a touching, but it really was.

Speaker 4

I just felt so like cared for and it was like also to go from having someone be at their own pace when I'm not at their pace, right to having someone be at my pace knowing my experiences was so just like affirming, reaffirming, and I felt such a relief when when I felt relieved, I felt the relief.

Speaker 1

Yeah, because somebody fake it, Like I believe a lot of women fake it too.

Speaker 2

I want you to feel safe doing X, Y.

Speaker 1

Z with me, and they may even weaponize it against that man later, you know, like you never know if someone is just putting on to get you.

Speaker 2

No one's nicer than someone hasn't.

Speaker 1

Bucked you yet, you know what I mean, or somebody that wants something from you, and so you just kind of don't know.

Speaker 2

If someone has an experience that they're wanting to get out.

Speaker 1

Of you, they will be fucking kind employees before they get the job, you know what I'm saying. It's like, really, how are you gonna treat me? Right in that middle? So in the beginning, it's very difficult. So I think it's dope that you got to have that experience with a man. Yes, five months and yeah, I'm actually the only man I've been able to have.

Speaker 3

I want to ask you another question, uh, because yeah, this was on air, this wasn't off air heeling from a narcissistic relationship. I asked that because I haven't been able to really fully been touched. Like, Okay, I did get finger banged. That was nice, any aim, But that was only one guy in the last like five six months. You just said before yesterday, Well listen, I'm about to bleed again in the last five periods.

Speaker 2

Okay when this episode airs.

Speaker 3

I'm trying to be timely here, but I've been triggered in the thought of men touching me that's made me cry, like even at the sex club, a place where I felt comfortable, and then even in a conversation right, and a part of me leaving that relationship. I don't trust myself as much as I don't trust men. And there was another guy, Yes, there was another guy recently talking to me, and he was so nice and so kind, and I immediately went to my friends and I was like,

I feel like I'm being love bombed. I feel like he's this isn't real, I like, And so it kind of even is keeping me from allowing maybe someone who's genuinely nice and maybe this is just who they are, to even show up in that way because I'm well, but also I'm just attaching nice gestures to this man is loved bombing me.

Speaker 2

This man is probably a narcissist.

Speaker 3

I don't want to feel taken advantage of, and I've completely pushed away.

Speaker 4

I felt the same way because I was I was with that person, that demon, that devil, who was a narcissist. And then the next person that I got involved with was also a narcissist.

Speaker 2

There's a lot I was not so used to. I was conditioned to be loved by narcissists for a very long time. How do you, how are you? What does that mean?

Speaker 3

My?

Speaker 4

Some of the most important people that were in my life for a really long time, we're narcissist. And because when you're a really genuine person and you're you allow yourself to be so vulnerable, they take advantage of that.

Speaker 2

They love that, they feed off they do.

Speaker 4

So I was conditioned to give into narcissistic people and and deal with their shit, and so that felt like home to me. It felt comfortable. That's what I was used to. Silencing yourself, yes, and by someone, but they're really just controlling and like almost want to cut all the other even narcissistic people out of your life because that way they have more control over you. So I was with that person and then the next situation, I was in narcissist, but that lasted way shorter, way way shorter.

Speaker 2

Because you're able to pick up on the red flag.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I was just like making myself enough and I know that I'm good on my own and this.

Speaker 2

Ship is fucking crazy. I'm done with that.

Speaker 4

And the same crazy shit that the guy that the guy did before this person, it was the same thing that she was doing. So I was just like, this is this is crazy. I see the signs now when the person real quick because you.

Speaker 3

Just said something, when we speak of narcissists, it could apply to both men. And yes, it's not just I know we talk about narcissistic men so much like this isn't We're not male bashing.

Speaker 2

We're not just putting this title on men.

Speaker 3

It could be with anyone who holds manipulative relationships with other people. And yeah, there's type it in the hashtag is crazy. I've been down the rabbit hole for the last four months.

Speaker 2

The hashtag is crazy. Oh girl.

Speaker 3

The algorithm of once you start seeing narcissistic shit, you start seeing the memes triggering what was it? It's people that literally show up. And I found out even all

the breakups was for a reason. The pulling away every time he broke up with me because I questioned him is what led to me silencing myself at the end, like it's why I knew you lying, And instead of ruining the high of our roller coaster, because I didn't want to keep going like this, I would just ignore when I knew he was lying, or when he was

doing something he wasn't supposed to do. For when I knew there was no way he was at another fucking funeral, because you've been to about three in the last motherfucking three months. So nobody this nigga was lying by going to funerals should have known because he lied about going to Panama for suits and he didn't even have a job, so I don't know why he had to go to Panama for suits. I found out later he was in Panama with a bitch. I don't you know what.

Speaker 2

I'm just over it. I'm not gonna lie the next thing I date.

Speaker 3

He got three funerals caps, otherwise I'm gonna feel like.

Speaker 2

He's so negative everyone around him is dying. I don't want to be in.

Speaker 3

His life because something ain't right. I don't want to be around nobody else. You got three funerals, Max, Nigga, if you come and date me and everybody around you starts dropping like flies, I gotta go because I might.

Speaker 2

Be nixt by. Wish you well, hope your morning peace. That Nigga had a funeral every motherfucking month, and I should have known some man, right, oh my.

Speaker 1

And at this point, maybe this is why you had this outlook about people taking time off.

Speaker 3

But maybe maybe my issue with bereathming is that Nigga might need to see the obituary something, oh my, funeral every month.

Speaker 2

And now I just feel like he was just using it because that's.

Speaker 3

The one thing you can't tell, y'all right.

Speaker 1

And it was like a day or two and so when he talked to he was like, I'm sorry, I was doing that for my parents. My homeboy was like, listen, I'm gonna get his tip. He's like, I'm using the ship on hose And I still feel like there may be a chance that we could fuck, But I'm telling you anyway, he said, anytime I know, I'm slipping.

Speaker 2

Up of the bitch say you lost somebody.

Speaker 1

No, it's not that he said, I have to almost create some family ship because the bitch will be crazy if she telling me.

Speaker 2

I wouldn't with my mother's sucking m But that's what I'm saying. A funeral is one thing you can't be like, no, were you really you can't.

Speaker 3

You can't really be like let me see the body. You can't do no shit like you know what I mean?

Speaker 2

And then like this is crazy.

Speaker 1

See if he got a suit on basetime them that they'd be like babyish wanted the same.

Speaker 3

No, because right now you could go anywhere. Niggas could have on black teats depending on what type.

Speaker 2

Of funeral it is. What type of funeral could it be?

Speaker 3

Man, have you guys seen the funerals where they put the nigga and bomb them, dress them up like they had a club, and now the whole funeral got like they got hit using going around the funeral that you ain't seeing no funerals like that.

Speaker 2

It'd be a club, it'd be a celebration of life.

Speaker 4

Okay, wait wait wait, I want to just say some name with quick yes the thing because I was really scared that when I started this situation that it was love bombing because he was so so nice to me and like so giving, so caring, so thoughtful, and I was like love love and I was just honest with him and was like, this is the past situations that I've been in. This is what I'm afraid of. And he was like, oh so you and he said it before me. He was like, oh so you, like are

worried that this is left on me? And even him saying that was like, Okay, you're aware enough, Like you're aware enough of the situation, and you even saying that is giving me some sort of positive feeling affirmation that.

Speaker 2

Some sort of like because he's also validating my.

Speaker 4

Experiences before that he's my age, twenty six, and I've never been with somebody my age. But I'm also never another nigga more mature than him ever ever, And also that works in two ways.

Speaker 2

But also what I internet.

Speaker 4

Is that he also has so much time to grow too, because he's twenty six, you too, to be honest.

Speaker 2

Yeah, me too.

Speaker 1

I love conversations where I told a man I wasn't willing to sit around for his growth face if I met him at twenty six, I would, and I think I am not really dating men that are my they're always a little bit older.

Speaker 2

So maybe let's just say thirty six plus. I don't know if I'm waiting to see you grow at thirty six.

Speaker 3

I ain't gonna hold you, bitch, I was still entertain I told you it's twenty two to fifty two for me.

Speaker 2

Right now, I will go down. It's one to.

Speaker 3

Two the fifty two talk to me. I think they all about the same, that's they all. But they're literally the same from twenty two to fifty two. The only difference is they money. So that's why you gotta have. You gotta scrab a ball into a hoop of some differences. I'd be a millionaire twenty two for me to entertain you. Now face them, bitch.

Speaker 1

I want to talk about something that the men may appreciate today.

Speaker 2

I want to talk about competing for a man and seducing men.

Speaker 1

I had a conversation recently where I was joking about the favorite thing with my homegirl and she was like, how many people do you think so and so it's dating like whatever, And she's like, cause you don't need to be competing with no bitch, and I'm like, I don't be rud with you, bro, Like, I don't think that anyone dope that I meet doesn't have someone else that wants them, especially men.

Speaker 2

Women find there's more dope.

Speaker 1

Women out here than there are men, Like, lets to be honest, So I think that it's really opposite. Like one of my homeboys right now is like, bro, like, these girls will act like they're about to cut me off because they want more, and then two days later they're like bruh to anyone listening. I almost wonted if I did this too. He's like, this bitch was straight up in my house, like do you want me to leave now? Like I'm actually looking for something more whatever whatever.

And he's like, no, you don't have to leave, like just because I want to casually date, like you know, you can relax. I'm not some shitty niggle like too, She's like, I don't want to leave myself on and whatever he said. Forty eight hours later, the girl's like, Okay, I think I can maybe do this. So a lot of women nowadays are kind of just molding to what men want right.

Speaker 2

All the time. So yes, there's ALU.

Speaker 1

If you meet someone fine, even if they broke you mean, someone rich, even if they're ugly, someone else is probably vying after that, right, So one, at some point, are we cool with being a little bit competitive? And I want to know if either of you won't really you, Kima, have you had a situation where you felt like you were competing with another woman and did you try at all?

Speaker 2

Like, were you okay with it? No? How do you know?

Speaker 4

Because I'm I'm just I feel like the people that I've been with in the past, whether it's just fucking or it's like relationships, I'm always number one no matter what, and like they will cut everything off. They have cut everything off and will for me.

Speaker 2

So like, but I don't even think about saying that unless yeah.

Speaker 4

But like most of the time we ended up in relationships, okay, but even if we didn't, that's what it was.

Speaker 2

So like.

Speaker 4

Also, I don't really like fuck people that aren't obsessed with me either, so like that's probably what it is too. It's like you get a shot to be in my pussy if you're obsessed with me, and I know you're obsessed.

Speaker 2

What is obsessed with you? Look like it's bad. It's bad. It's bad.

Speaker 3

That's why you ended up with two nurses exactly. Like it's bad, that's not it's not it's not a good thing. But like if someone if someone.

Speaker 4

Is obsessed with themselves and obsessed with me and treats me amazing, then I love that. But like people have like not had a life for themselves and kind of took my life as their own. Say, I been obsessed with me, and like, I think I liked that before because I liked being sought after and like I can't let go of you because they're so amazing. But then that also, like when I broke up with them, that you were like, I did not. It wasn't in my favor at that point.

Speaker 1

So when it comes to competing, I guess I would ask you, like, how do you think, if at all, you would be willing if someone was like, hey, there's like other women I'm dating, but I'm really into you, and you wanted to pursue them.

Speaker 3

We've talked about competitive dating all the time. I think that that's natural, that's normal. What do you think you'd be bitch hunger games made the best bitch win.

Speaker 1

What do you think are some things you'd be willing to do to show up in a way.

Speaker 2

I'm showing up as me.

Speaker 3

I work, if I if I have, you gonna know that I like picklebacks and caviar. You're gonna know that I like to go out and do live music. You're gonna know that I like die bars. You're gonna know that I.

Speaker 2

Like not you.

Speaker 3

No, but that's what I'm saying. I'm not showing up in any other way. These are the things I like to do. You date another women, cool, but this is me so I'm and hopefully you like me more than the other women.

Speaker 2

But I have a little I'm not dating here.

Speaker 1

I think that what I've been seeing recently from just discussing with other women and just like kind of the trend of even having male friends. I feel like every bad bitch expects that, like dudes are lucky to fuck her, and what we're not realizing is that And this is no shade to what either you were saying, Like this

is us all knowing we have a standard. But I think the issue that sometimes we're seeing on the other end is like there are men that have the same shit going on and they're like, bro, I'm a good dude, but like now I have to sit here and do all this shit because I have to try to win you, Like, what are women doing at all for men?

Speaker 2

If anything?

Speaker 1

And if you feel like you have to do nothing for men, cool, But I do think there should be some dialogue, especially as women, knowing that we have women listening, where every girl can't think that just because they're pretty with a great job, that's enough.

Speaker 2

Oh I never said that. No, I'm not saying that you are saying that's right.

Speaker 1

But I do think a lot of girls are thinking, I have a degree, I've got an amazing job, I've got good benefits, i'm wifey material, I barely go out.

Speaker 2

He should want to be with me.

Speaker 1

And the problem with that is like that doesn't really show what you're doing for that person, Like how are you showing up as a good partner? Are women even talking and doing these things? Are they just showing anything that separates them?

Speaker 2

So that's the thing. I ain't showing up as a partner before I'm a partner.

Speaker 3

So I think if a man is honest enough to also let you know I'm entertaining of the bitches, chances are you're probably not in the top of the running. A man is honest with people that he wants to be casual with. I think otherwise, men lie.

Speaker 2

We've talked about that.

Speaker 3

I do think a man will lie and be like, no, I'm only entertaining you, or they don't want you to know that you're having to compete with other women. They're going to show up and see as much as they can. Like to me that I think that's the case. I know, like you've been open with your partners recently, but I think that if you have your eye closer on one price to where you know you'll cut all the mother

bitches off. You're not sitting here and letting them know that you got all these mediocre bitches that you might not even be letting.

Speaker 1

Up into the game that are my Like, I can think of two three men I know right now that have told me like, yo, I'm feeling this girl so much, but I can't let her know because like, I don't know if I'm ready in this moment.

Speaker 2

But like, bro, I'm telling you, I don't think that's true. I mean, well, there's not one stop shop for anything.

Speaker 1

Let's be in an era where men are definitely being more transparent, because that is the trend of how relationships be because they.

Speaker 3

Want to let you know they don't want to fuck you and be with you and then also be able to fuck other women. I think the trend of us even having conversations about poly open relationships, non ethical non monogamy is what's also leading men to be more honest as well.

Speaker 1

You're saying men will lie to someone they want, they.

Speaker 3

Will, but that's because that's the whole guys if they're dating someone they really like and they're like, I only believe in monogamy, I don't do three SOMs and I don't do this, that's where the lies come in because they really like these women and they're not willing to lead those women because this woman wants a faithful monogamous relationship. So I think when you let someone know that you're talking to other women, that's where you also kind of test the temperature.

Speaker 2

Are you is that okay with you? Are you ethically non monogamous? Are you open? Are you cool with an open relationship?

Speaker 3

A lot of men are coming in using the word polly, not knowing what the fucking means or the boundaries and that they still have to be honest with everybody, but also testing the temperature because there's a lot more women that are okay with that.

Speaker 1

I think that you can prioritize someone you're dating and be super interested in them, and at the same time be like, hey, I am dating other people, but like I want to keep doing this, Like I think that's okay. I don't necessarily know if you're gonna lie. I don't want any women listening to things just because a man told you that that he doesn't have interest in you. I've ended up with three boyfriends that were dating other people at the time, so.

Speaker 2

I don't know.

Speaker 3

Again, I don't say anything as a one size fits all. I think your experience, my experience, Keana's experience all difference from each other. We're not sitting here and saying there's a right way or wrong way to do anything. But if we're gonna have a conversation and share all of these three different experiences, I think we should all be able to share what our thought process is on it.

And I think for me personally, from the conversations I have with my male friends and the relationships I've been in, that's been the truth for me.

Speaker 2

And I'm also around a lot more.

Speaker 3

Lifestyle people than you are, so to me, that's the guise of what I've been told.

Speaker 1

What do you think, Keana, when you're dating and you know, men are seeming like someone that you'd want to end up with or maybe hubby boy for material whatever that might look like. What are ways that you show up as a good partner that you feel like make you stand out?

Speaker 4

Honestly, I think it's just like my vulnerability and how genuine I am because I and the safe space that I provide for that person too, because honestly, there's not a lot of people that can make everybody feel safe, no matter what they say and what has happened to them and what they do. I'm very accepting and loving most people and most importantly understanding, so as long as

you're communicating with me. A lot of people can't take communication without getting defensive, you know, or letting ego play into it. And I am not that person. Like I will literally sit there and listen to your whole life story and ask you questions and be like, oh wow, okay, and that's.

Speaker 2

Your depending on that, how does it make you feel?

Speaker 4

Because I'm just so inquisitive, like I want to know everything, so like I will ask those questions, like about threesomes.

Speaker 2

That a lot of people probably don't ask.

Speaker 4

A lot of people are afraid to ask because they don't want to hear the wrong answer.

Speaker 2

And that you're going to be like, Okay, you're judging.

Speaker 4

Much exactly exactly, and I'm not judging at all. And I think that provides a really safe space for people. I think what makes me stand out is just me being me and my personality. And I think, unfortunately, the other thing that makes me stand out is my lifestyle because even though it's kind of unconventional and like the hours are weird and everything, like, I do get certain benefits and perks that a person would also get if they.

Speaker 2

Were with me. Yeah, you could do. That does play into it.

Speaker 4

When I'm dating or even if I'm like talking to someone or fucking or whatever, they see that and the wrong person will like latch onto that and try to get something out of me or cling on to me just for that thing. So that's something that I've been having to watch out for.

Speaker 2

My homegirl that does pr is experiencing that. Yeah, he's like, is he fucking with me? Or is something I just have liter shit to do every weekend? Yeah? Exactly? And what do you think about you?

Speaker 1

What do you think that men are like the most impressed with you by when they're like dating you.

Speaker 2

That I'm smart, don't.

Speaker 3

I don't think people expect it because of the persona on the internet in my pods, but just that a I'm I'm super caring. I want to make everyone's life better around me, and I don't want them to stress about anything.

Speaker 2

So if there's anything I can do, I'm going to do it.

Speaker 3

But also that we can have conversations about what you want to do professionally where you see your future. Like I'm all about setting goals and being intentional and being able to have those conversations and having ways to help and connect resources and whatever I can do to help anybody around me, I do. And so I'm just giving. I'm very giving and supportive and supportive to.

Speaker 2

Whatever you want to do.

Speaker 3

Now, if you broke and want to be a rapper, I don't know about day not at my big one.

Speaker 2

Nobody to pass you.

Speaker 3

But yeah, but I want to get into it because before we get out of here, you are touring Grudges, which is a phenomenal album. Again, one on my face literally promised me as in my top twenty five play songs on my Apple so just.

Speaker 2

You know, streaming.

Speaker 3

Hopefully you're going to get those coins because the music industry, you know, but you're about to hit your international stops.

Speaker 2

Yes, is this like a big deal? This like have you been to some of these points when we're.

Speaker 3

Supposed to do internet four years ago?

Speaker 1

I'm sure you're way bigger now, so it's even more I've been though.

Speaker 4

Are going to hit so excited because I have been there since my last tour, which was I was doing my uh EP and like all the venues were so much smaller, and it's kind of.

Speaker 3

Like, by the way, y'all, she slowed down New York and had to add another show. So if you if you're not even familiar with Keana, make sure you go check on all the DSPs, because baby, it's giving.

Speaker 2

You can have to it, you can cry to it.

Speaker 3

You can think of somebody you don't want to think about to it. All the musical at least evoke emotion, and I love that.

Speaker 2

What is the city the country you're most excited about.

Speaker 3

Oh, I'm least excited about Australia.

Speaker 4

I'm least excited for one of the cities and I'm not going to say which city is because my ex is from that city.

Speaker 2

Oh okay, it's giving, so I mean personal trauma.

Speaker 4

I'm excited for the fans and that, okay, but it's given personal trial.

Speaker 2

It's gonnager. But also my best friend that passed away is from Sydney, so I'm excited for that.

Speaker 3

Another one that's going to bring back memory.

Speaker 2

And I will tell you, I need you to go see the little people.

Speaker 3

I know I can't call them the other word, but little people box in the Philippine.

Speaker 2

What's up the N word?

Speaker 3

Uh? They literally call it that in the Philippines, but I'm not gonna call it. Actually, yeah, we could bleep it out. So they're boxing in the Philippines and it's so cool you go and they like, I don't know why they do it, but it's entertaining as fuck. Everyone like drinks beers with the handle and it's just that. There's also I want to say, the Philippines also has the pussy show, which they have in Thailand.

Speaker 2

Yeah, have you been a sailent ping pong? No?

Speaker 3

They always wanted to go. They shoot ping pongs out of their pussy then you can hit it. So look up the pussy show and.

Speaker 2

Look you can hit it with paddles. Yeah, they can hand you the paddle the no no, no, no no, the answer.

Speaker 1

But there's a lot of games that they do with their vaginas that like you get involved in, like maybe you'll be pulling a string out of there forever you have.

Speaker 2

It's like stream.

Speaker 3

The Philippines is so much fun fun, Like literally you can hand them a marker and they'll be like, and what's your name?

Speaker 2

And what their pussy? The marker goes in and they on the chest.

Speaker 3

This girl Amsterdam is in the Philippines, but like so cool. And I will say, in the Philippines I went to, Oh, I can't remember the city now.

Speaker 2

But just the Manila. I was a Manila. The Oh my god. They are the dopest.

Speaker 3

Because it's probably gonna be something racist to say, but they the niggas of Asia, like they literally are treated that way. Their dark skinned and they will tell you but also they speak the best English. But they are just the nicest, Like they don't treat Americans like in different parts of Asia you might get stand offish, especially if there's a person of color. The Philippines was cool as fuck. Shout out to everybody in the Philippines them

Nigga's coolest. Fuck I ain't even gonna Yeah, so you.

Speaker 1

Just watched Beyonce's concerts and I was like, I came all the way from the Philippines.

Speaker 3

I was like, damn, you're really I hope you enjoyed as much as I did. Like that's so that's the play that the flight wasn't so far. I would go again, I really And then they have other beautiful islands that I wasn't able to get to, but.

Speaker 2

So there you go. Oh my god. I had been for.

Speaker 3

Soul too, and the fashion I'm so excited girl spas the Ramen vending machine thing machine.

Speaker 2

So Japan.

Speaker 1

Japan was probably like for me, like transforming in fashion is right up there. And meeting so many Koreans in LA has really made me, like, you know, when you have Southern friends, you're like, oh, should I gotta go to New Orleans?

Speaker 2

Whatever? The fuck? That shit really has made me want to be in fucking Korea.

Speaker 3

You never been, no the Korea that Americans And of course yeah there's two parts. I never know the difference anyway, So they can purchase stream and also follow.

Speaker 4

You following me at Keana the day k I N A L E d E. And you can find effort that there's a link in my bio where you can little click it and find every.

Speaker 3

So what we're gonna do is include that same link in the description of this episode.

Speaker 2

That's what we're gonna do to make sure nigga right next to it. Nigga nigga. Yes, we will, We absolutely will.

Speaker 3

And also, as you guys know, next weekend we're in London, so October the twenty eighth, make sure you pull up to us in London. Mandy convinced me, yeap got my fifth now, bitch, it's given, okay. And then November fifth, we are in Toronto, so those are two international shows, and then we are back here on the East Coast

to wrap up. Boston and Philly is sold out, but you can still get your tickets for DC, and honestly, by now New York may be sold out, but DC New York if you can, and again Toronto and London. We're looking forward to seeing you get your tickets now at hor hive dot com. Ketu, thank you for joining us again so much, hey, and thank you all for listening to you at another episode of Horrible Decision, Hi everybody ye

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