Ep 297: Heauxteppin’ (Ft. 19Keys)

What is je What does that do? Because, like I've been told, the people would beat juice does? But a man, what does watermelon? Juice? Too funny? You know what I'm saying. Put all of them nutrients inside, you know what I mean. But let's keep it clean. It makes it tastes good. Anything sweet, it filters out for your body. Really. Oh yeah, have you ever want to like taste super super sweet? Think about all the like vitamins they're giving to make

your pussy taste good. That's all bullshit. It's just sweetshit sugar. It's bullshit. Just true or chocolate or candy like anything sweet. Now, see what I mean process. Sorry, we don't gonna make it that we got and I seen keys in the building. I feel like we're all like podcast family in a way because we're connected, except not really because we're not as you know, hotel. Oh we hold are you but you're not hop You just dressed like one. Listen, So

somebody pull up the phone. What this definition of hotel? Here we go? Here we go? Not just I want to know, because you know, for me talk about certain conversations and words. I rat to know what it means to you to be honest when I say hotep, I'm making a joke in like spiritous way of like somebody that's like spiritually conscious, but I mean close. Hotep for those of you you know who don't know, is the gyp and word that roughly translates as to be satisfied

at peace. The word also refers to an offering ritually presented to a deity or dead person. Hence, be pleased, be gracious, be at peace. You walked in and said peace, Uh it is, and and then it just say hieroglyphics. Yeah, a person would say hotel, it's a piece to be at pieces kind of like to be stoic. Right, it's just a state of being if anything, right, So damn

real positive, you feel me. But that's that's why you know, when I start hearing the word hotep, it's more derogatory term in the way that people UH talk about people that I believe come off eccentrically conscious or I think what I've seen hotep when I learned the word. At first, it was dudes that were coming from this like women need to not talk, blahlah blah, and then we just throw the word hotep at them. But you don't think

that you threw that on. So it was a very small percentage of man and then they threw it and cast a wide net. Right, what are you known for it? Like? Um, I think I'm mostly known just being the thought leader. Man. I I'm one who education leaders too. Oh that's a great time leaders over here. But I think right now it's more so being known as you know, one of the more outspoken voices in the black community, UM that

you can go to for solid leadership. UM. And then we have the high level conversations which is booming right now. And then of course, you know, as a thought leader, you have to be somebody who actually got books. You have to have skill set, you have to be in a multiple industry. So I'm an entrepreneur. I teach financial education as far as spiritual education, physical and sometimes political at the same time. Yeah, I learned it. Um I think master Investors. So Ian as one of the investors

in the studio and I was like, did you try? Yeah, I love you in He was like did you I said, did you know nineteen is out here? And he was like yeah. He was like, you know, he's really big for talking about crypto. Do people mainly like I think that it was just an easy niche for people to identify me with because I was one of the first main black voices to speak about crypto while everybody was shunning in and only talking about let's say, maybe stocks

or safer financial investments. UM me and my platform. I remember we were talking about futures, crypto options, some of the riskier trading skill sets that you can get into. So you know, early only made a lot of people money by learning those skill sets, learning how to invest in crypto. And I listened to it and got into crypto and blockchain specifically because I felt like we talked about a lot of things in the black space. We

don't have solutions for him. And I felt like cryptocurrency initially when I heard about it, it was a decentralized way to not have to use like government banking and things of that nature. You know how like we just lost like a billion crabs. What happened to the billion day traders like them? Niggas was on Twitter times day

traders is making money right now? But no, because listen right now, whether it's stocks or crypto, if you trade, this is your market right long term, this might not be your market because you're gonna see your portfolio down, but if you if you are a trader, you're making a lot of money during this market. They had one of the craziest days just the other week, you understand me,

where the market just shot up. I know me personally, right and I know other people that are making money a consistent and daily basis and they're posting their profits. If you don't know how to trade, it isn't much harder market because you're not gonna be as lucky. But if you actually had the skill set, this is the best market for you to be trading crypto or stocks. Now, Can I ask you that they have to be on like the computer almost for hours, like during the day.

Like what is it like? I mean, I guess you wouldn't know what it's like dating them. But in terms of relationship, why them niggas like live on the computer their phones? Right? No, no, no, no, Because the market is not all day as far crypto is an all day market, but for the most part, people have targets that they want to make for out the day. How people set a certain of the trades, especially if you trade, um, the stock market and you're doing options, you're mostly gonna

trade between you know, the morning and the afternoon. Right. The market if you're on this side of the West coast, it closes at one o'clock, right, so after that Joe job is done. Now, some people they're gonna study the market. Somebody like Mark Ian gonna tell you to study fifty pages a day. Now. I don't think that the average trader is doing nowhere near that, right. Some people they just set up like Mark bro At cheat code in them.

What they have is like algorithmic trading, So they have like bots that tell them to help them with the signals of the trades, which yeah, and then they have some people that have communities, and those communities in the morning they tell you, this is the type of setups that we see in the market. That's what we think is going to go for the day. They take maybe one or two trades and then they're done for the day.

And then if you're doing something like sex work, is just like it and it's giving sex work, but only probably the work feel but I don't know, it may be more profitable to sex work now, want to know? So obviously the ladies love you because I see him on every time I click on your live I'd be like, who we learned about some money down? So I just want you to take your clothes off? Is this no? Lie?

Do people think that you're like this is a front like that, like, oh, you're be getting all the hose like this is the No, I've been doing this too long in front of the people, you know. I mean, I feel like if you, uh, nineteen, you know what? You know what? Men aren't only able to mother him my Christ Year's Christ Okay, that's next year for me

then right now. But no, I've never had that issue just because I've been doing this so long in front of the people that you can see my history, like, you can't fake it when you got consistency, that's just character, that's fair. Consistency is key. Is that one of the nineteen? That's one and you actually don't. I don't think anyone knows much about your person like you do. You believe in just keeping relationships off of what you know. Most part,

you gotta ask why do people want to know? For the most part, they don't want to know the support. They want to know that you know, I disagree. They want to know you're a relatable person. So yeah, some of that, but I'm saying to know the ends in the details of all of that, Yeah, I mean, I don't mind letting you know if I'm in a relationship or not, but you needing to know an update on

it consistently. I feel like it's listen the way that we record, Like we both record this podcast, and we literally just recorded a Patreon episode yesterday and I was like, the things that we talked about. By the time it airs, I feel like it's a reality show because I'm talking about being single while I'm waking up next to my nigger. So it's just like, but it's two months, like what we recorded was two months ago, so it's like they don't.

I know a lot of people that listen to us feel like they're in tune with our lives, but they know so many things be changing. People get invested into a relationship and then the next month they out of it. Then people mad at you for not being in that relationship, and then also a lot of the value. And this is one of the things I wanted to talk about with you too, because I feel like a lot of the conversations I've seen you have our masculine, feminine energy.

I'm actually I prefer your clips to a lot of other socially conscious you know, that bracket of dudes, because I feel like you don't necessarily put women down. A lot of those men do, but it's still kind of has given fresh and it like just a little bit fresh and fit. Don't even stay back. I don't know. I just don't know. Niggas are ugly, and every bitch

on the podcast is threaking specifically about them. But when when men to me speak on feminine energy or rows of women and what they should be doing or what they're not doing, to me, that's what that's given. I don't want to hear that I don't listen to see. I don't think it's nothing wrong with men giving their opinion on feminine energy or what they want from a woman.

That's what we want the most, that's what we think about the most, understand me, So we're gonna have a huge opinion, ideology, and a philosophy on what we want. You gotta keep in mind too, there especially very demeaning. A lot of those guys really put women down. I don't know if we could find a clip where they're calling women women and not bitches in yeah, because we got a conflict driven, media based society. So you're talking

about clips that go viral. Those are the men that have what people hate and they find distasteful, and they share and they talk about it and they make it successful. But there's pretty sure that there's plenty of men that's having respectful conversations about women, but that ain't gonna go viral, you understand me. The ignorance is gonna go viral way faster than respect. So that's what you see, But that's

not the totality of what's happening. I know they got like Mano spheres and red pills and stuff, you know, for me, I didn't know nothing about that thing. My bro Mike Maschid told me about that ship. Um. But even them, they don't particularly you know, like successful men that you know, just get it out naturally, right, because I feel like they feel like they got to learn some kind of secret an algorithm of life in order to get with women and to walk a certain way.

And they kind of like hate people that hate certain type of men. You know, that's like myself. You know, they corn balls of money. We just melanated and grateful. They the crypto dude that couldn't get pussy before the price went up. That's how That's what I really blanket

those dudes into. But getting into the independent thing with women, I'm I'm curious on your opinion on this because since I've grown and elevated an entrepreneurship, like many women in our space, right, we all know these girls, I feel like I have the Kevin Samuel's esque crowd that will come in. And he wasn't necessarily I'm not a fan of his, but he wasn't necessarily a bit er whole type dude like Freshian fit. But he was one of those dudes that are like if you make a certain

amount of money, men won't want you. You're not desirable. Why is it that an independent woman seems like she can't be a good mate, wife, or mother? Like I still want to cook for money, even if I'm busting my head. It's counterintuitive, right because the part depended all Right, the same thing is saying that you want to depend it man? Right, These two go opposite of each other, right, because an independent woman depends on no one and a dependent man can be dependent on What should we depend

on our man for for protection? Provision? Right? Um? It could be spiritual God, it could be education, a man who wants to you haven't said money yet? Please the profit that's been provided. But I'm saying, like, all of these things that I would want for a man, don't I would love them and pay for my ship. Right? That doesn't mean that you can't have your own money. But also why did you go directly to the independent

and the dependent? All the pope? But do you not believe that two independent people can exist together in a relationship. I think they need each other. I think that what is the point of having relationships? The same thing, if you get a business partner that you don't need what are y'all in business for. That's actually a fairy buttal even though I don't necessarily agree. But we're not monolithic as human beings, and so to me, I've had this conversation.

Even with my excellent like he often felt he struggled in how I needed him, or if I needed him, or how he should even show up as a man with me, And as women, even when we're independent, sometimes we just want comfort. Sometimes we want emotional maturity or someone just to be with, like so in the ways that I needed him, where men feel like this is what makes me a man? With everything you just listed off, it was frustrating to me as someone who I now don't.

I'm not coming at you for your money, right because my bills are paid. You pay your own bills as human beings. The same way I look at friendships, I would hope that we can connect on just a human level and needing each other the same way I need my friends, the same way I'll run to my mom for certain things like I want to encompass you more than you being my bodyguard or my or my wallet. No, that is a very important aspect of it. Right, So

a man is not just physical and material like. Being emotionally there for a woman is very important because women are more feelers, were more things. So those are where we have those mix ups in those opposites, right, being able to like men like to come to a conclusion of certain things and women like to feel their way through things. Right Like when you're having debates and argument, it's not about Yo, let's just come to the logical conclusion of this, because we want to end it by

coming to a conclusion. Things. I was listening to Guru. He're talking about things die when they come to a conclusion. Right, Women, existing emotion, which is motion, is life. We want to continue for this thing to have life. We don't just want you to uh end this off with your logical thought process. So for a man, there's a lot of lack of learning how to be in your full development of a divine man, masculine man, and that goes beyond right. Most of our society teachers is like, yo, if you

don't have money, if you don't have status. Right, if if you don't look good in material a women ain't going want you. Then when you get in a relationship, she's attracted to you. For those things. But now she wants you to have these other skills sets right to be emotionally there for But that's not what women are are propagating as the highest level of men that provide

emotional support. So since you do believe that it would basically repel against each other, are you telling me that when you're meeting women are looking at women that ambitious women or women that want more aren't necessarily something that attracts you. I mean, if we're doing business together, for surely you know not in the impartnership. If if it depends on what my goal and or my vision is,

does this fit into my goal and my vision? Otherwise you gotta literally like a woman having our own ambition ideas, vision, intelligence is immaculant, is beautiful, it's great at some point in times that sometimes that particular ambition will have y'all going in opposite directions. Right, So it's like your business is halfway across the planet. Mind is over here. We're too busy for each other. What about in this scenario a man wants emotional support as well. I don't understand,

because that's what that feminine energy does. When you got a feminine woman after you're done dealing with the world. She's there helping console you. But she's dealing with the world as well. Y'all gotta goddamn console each other. Neither one of y'all got energy. So an independent so you don't like you don't like the word. A lot of independent women lack the type of feminine energy that is nurturing in the relationship. So let's say that we have

no idea what you're talking about. Independent women that are I do want. Let's say they got a hair salon, hair business, right, they're making mad Now that's just on my mind because they're making mad breast. These are women making million right, I know you're talking about some girl told me I wouldn't because I random podcast and probably had a hair salon. But anyway, she said, y'all think you're successful with that? They are, you know, they're millionaires.

So that girl working forty hours a week dealing with some stuff. What are the things she's probably lacking in femininity even though she's servicing women, those are probably her clientele. What are the things that she might be lacking as an entrepreneur that you could get from someone else. She's probably not gonna lack as we talked about. For me, as an entrepreneur knows like North, she's probably not laughing and she's a millionaire and she's successful. But as a

feminine woman, two different things. It's your value in the world, right, and then there's your value to me as far as a person. And I'm in a relationship with I'm not in a relationship with the whole world. I only have expectations of this one person, right, And when we talk about relationships, we're talking about what we want and expect from this one person, not every woman in the world. Right.

So if I'm a man that is already having my success, right, then therefore when I come home, I want someone there that can help console and and help me take it to that next level. What your success? But the men don't matter right now. They don't have options, you know what I'm saying. So a listener of our our content.

But but listen though, because when we're talking about independent, independent people, right, and when we're talking about women specifically that are successful to a man, that success matters like this much, right, because it has nothing to do with how is that going to help me in life? Why is it a deterrent because I'm with splendy to you.

Because a woman's money is her own money, right, So number one, it's not financially beneficial just because even the way that we have rows set up in society, that's beneficial if you don't have to spend your money on earth, right. But you, as a man, you're gonna always want to spend your money on your woman, right, because then what other value do you have in that relationship? You can't

be a provider a woman. If a woman tell you, I don't need you to protect me, or damn, you don't need me in that area, like a man has to feel some sort of value, purpose and work in a relationship as well, the same way a woman will want to. If a man is completely taken care of her and she's asking him, you know, what can I do? And he say nothing, then she's gonna feel like, damn,

what can I do? I don't have any value. You brought it back to the same two things though, and it's because this is literally the conversation I've had over the last two years with with my ex like a black Muslim man by the way, um uh and my other things. But but he you, you brought it right back to protecting and providing. And to me, my argument has always been, but yeah, but I show up and I cook as a woman. I show up and I'm thoughtful to his needs, his wants, um sexually, we communicate

like this is where he didn't. He only provided in one way that he provide mentally and spiritually, emotionally. And that's where though, to me, in speaking to men, specifically black men, they don't feel their value is of any value if it's not protecting and providing. And I think that that's been the hard thing. It hasn't been defined

that protecting is also protecting spiritual and emotionally as well. Right, It's not just physical protection, right because for the most part yet physical protection is not going to come up that often. That's not happening. You're not even proving that part to whether you can even be a great physical protector in the first place. But when you're talking about dividing that protection of every woman wants to feel safe,

you understand me. She gets in the relationship with a man that could make her feel safe, that would actually override a lot of things that she would take from in another relationship. She feels unsafe. So protection is key. But that protection is financial protection, spiritual protection, emotional protection. All of those areas have to be encompassed when you

say protecting and providing. So they're very big, but they're multi dimensional, right, And I think that some relationships first focus on one dimension, right, and so a man try to figure out how do I become great at this dimension and project myself at that. Then he gets in the relationship and now he's expected to be multi dimensional, which are most likely his weaknesses, right, And then he's graded on that when he's in a relationship. But what

got him in a relationship was that one dimension. Well, I look like a protector, right, I look like a provider. I got some money, But that doesn't mean I got emotional intelligence. That doesn't mean I know how to spiritually console a person. That doesn't mean I really understand the dynamics of mass and effeminate energy. So I feel like a lot of men today have lost the art of manhood. So when they get in relationships, they react in a

way that they know how what they say. I really appreciate you saying this because I feel like a lot of the rhet rhetoric we're here today. Black women are eclipsing black men in entrepreneurship numbers, right, which means that a lot of men are feeling insecure. So now they're like, you're losing your womanhood. Well we out here. Why shouldn't I be the best version of myself? Right? Is that

making me undesirable? And I would say, then to those women that are speaking a man that can do those things, how do you show up in your opinion? Because we could answer this all day, But as you who are you know? With are interest in the women, how do you then show up for your for your mates and still provide for yourself? Like I don't want to wait five years at twenty years old for a negative Just show up when frankly a lot of them man should. Let's just be real. It's like, why can't I be

building my empire too? I want a nice house, I want a vacation with my friends. What am I supposed to do? Am I not supposed to build while waiting for Are you know? Are you supposed to be? But listen that whole entire time, you understand me, because what you're talking about is building all of your ambitions. Right. When a man looks for for the most part, when you see a woman trying to look at like who

are you? Though? You understand me, like because how much money you got and all of that ship, that's not what makes me attracted to you. What I'm saying, are you a nurturing person? Are you a good person? Are you a feminine person? Like? Who are you? At your core? You're talking about things as far as ambition and legacy. Those are masculine things. Those are very logical things that you want to provide for yourself. Those are masculine things well,

because ambition is masculine energy. We all have masculine, feminine energy, but ambition to go out there material things like you know, I feel like even like a lot of things that we do is masculine. Of things we do is feminine right. The way we dress ourselves and in the way we express ourselves, that's a feminine thing. Fashion is feminine right, But going to get money that's more of a masculine pursuit in the way we go about doing it. Building

business is a masculine disposition. That's a logical endeavor. It doesn't require emotions to build business. I want to throw something at you that I thought about years ago. We had episode with my mom, and my mom never worked. She was a housewife and she would always tell me like, Okay, we don't eat until daddy comes home. We gotta set his play, we gotta do this. And we had a episode with my mom where I cooked for my ex remember that I ended up dating him for a few years.

But Mandy was like, no fucking way, we should not be cooking, or you shouldn't be cooking for a nikodis not your man. I was like, well, how I wanna he comes over, he takes me to dinner. This is my way to show him. And that was really what my mom taught me to do. Now we've had split comments on this, right where one why do these things for a man that aren't you man yet? Right, he's got the cow that he didn't buy it, so to speak,

something like that. And on the other end, in my brain, I was like, well, I'm showing him I'm a good girlfriend. But man, he's like, well, you're doing all this ship before years girlfriend, right when you're a boss bitch. On this side, he should be happy to be with a woman like you. What is the role that women should be taking when initially dating. Should they be showing up all the way in their full selves like that. I think that you show up whoever they are. I mean

that whole idea. And this is a trick back, like if you gotta ask yourself, is that successful? Right? We get a lot of advice from my parents that just don't matter. It wasn't right. You understand me, and so we will be remembering a lot of indoctrination and traditionalism that your parents passed down from their parents and parents. But that ship didn't matter. We want to see a woman for who they are. If you're a cooker, then cook.

You understand me. Don't do it because you're in a relationship, or not do it because you're not in a relationship. If you're a woman that likes to cook, just cook, and then I'm gonna see Okay, that's that's one of the things I like about it. She likes to cook. You understand me, don't It's like if you get with a man you think it's spiritual, then you start faking like you meditate every day. If that ain't, that ain't what you do. I mean, I'm pretty sure you feel me.

I feel like people try to show up as a reflection of what they think they want they partner to see in them and what their partner is attracted to. But I feel like if you off as your true self, then you give a person an opportunity to like you for you. You understand me, Because, like I said, maybe a person could be impressed by the things that you've done, but that's not the reason they gonna love you, you understand me. They're gonna love you for how you treat

them or how you make them feel right. And so that's the same thing with a man. If you're gonna make a man feel good, he's gonna want that in his life, you understand me. And it depends on his level of maturity and development as a man, because every man is different. So a lot of times women in society speak on men like we are monolitht right. There's varying degrees levels, educations, like ethnicities, backgrounds. Everybody is different

than their development. So it also may just be that you may be attracted to men who are not fully developed, you understand me. And so a lot of women are not attracted to mature man. They attracted to, you know, immature things, and then when they get in the relationship, they want that man to be mature and it's like, damn, well, that ain't why you want it. Let's talk about as a man who feel like respects women. Let's talk about

whole asked next, because here's what's going on. Really spend a lot of time thinking about them, but because I think they really do need to hear from you. Right, here's the here's the thing, define how asking. I'm gonna say, a lot of the men today that have money have access to a bunch of women. The more cloud the more women you have, and we're attracted to the men

with money, right, the castanova. But at the same time, are you really able to develop fully as a man to that level that you're talking about if you running around with a bunch of women? Do you think that men are able to show up in their most masculine energy if they've got ten or fifteen girls and freaking rotation? Like do men with money having a bunch of women? Is that something that's gonna come with it? Is that

something women should expect? Well, I think women are attracted to money, you understand me, And so therefore men with money off they have the options that have a lot of women. Right, So that's just the reality. Now, but that doesn't make you a man, right. I think you gotta die on what is a man? Right? I think that it's it's when a man is his principles, you know, I mean it's his virtues and the things that he

believes in. That qualifies a man is the way he thinks. Right, So to go from being a boy to a man, that means that he's changed the way he thinks in a way that he manages himself. He's developed himself into this position. The problem is not a lot of women know how to identify man. Right. So you're looking at a male, right, who may still be maturely as a boy. Right, and you may still be attracted to boyish things. You mean, as a woman, that's what you want because you may

still be young and a girl. And yo, just saying, I mean just the way a man dresses and the money he has and the status he has. These are more you know ship that we learned in high school. Right, popularity? You understand me, who looks like they got some money? And you know what other type of women are attracted to him? Right? But does that man is that man respectful? Does he have dignity, does he have couraged Is he intelligent? Is he loyal right? Is he responsible? Is a discipline?

Is he focused those equalities of a man that most women are not looking at to determine whether they're attracted to worm and and I wanted to step in on that as well, just because it's been something current. Uh. Floyd Mayweather, who is one of those very wealthy men with a lot of women, He recently took to um his Instagram and put everybody always asks me when am I getting married? Or why am I not married? I'm not married for the same reason. The divorce rate is

so high. The only person I will truly trust is myself. Therefore it eliminates disappointment. He said he has nothing against people who are married. Those are just his personal beliefs. He has multiple women, and Elie Choppa also just came out and said that I want multiple women. We talked about No that young boy he and he's he's like twenty years old. He was in a relationship with a woman who was like thirty and she thought that he could she could convince him that he could be monogamous.

He went into the relationships saying I needed these multiple women. And so because we do talk about non traditional relationships. I also don't want to just throw it out there that niggas who entertain multiple women with a lot of money are stunted mature mature wise, because I don't think they are. I think they're a little bit more honest than the regular niggas that are saying that they could

be monogamous and they can't and they're cheating. So I do just want to like distinguish that even the men with money are very open about not only their access

but that they need multiple ways. But also then you gotta take an account, man, if you are a man that lives in to Dolan twenty two today, right, the old reality is completely different than any other man in any other period in time, Like no other men in any other period when all the rules and construct was created has social media, right this Actually it changes the level of discipline and responsibility and focus that a man

will have when it comes to choosing a woman. That's it's a fact, you understand, mex ain't of us see all of the twerking in his life. Because I'm just saying it's different. It's a really honest thing. Okay, because okay, I agree, like I think temptation always exists, but like I can't imagine knowing you could just click on her and have her. You know what I'm saying, Like you can now that is crazy. Players don't even got to go to the club no more. They slide in d

M S. Bitch, pull up to the hotel. Nick is not going out to dinners. They're not going to clubs. Is A is a delivery service? We go Uber the sex delivery service. Okay, I know that pizza. Now they deliver women. Do you put on you're having a share ride? Did you? I don't even get share rides only. I do want to know have you ever had like a whole phase and by that I mean just like sleeping around having fun? Or is it difficult for you because you do feel like you need to be spiritually connected

for women? Can you like just have on one night? And you know, I'm from Oakland, man, So growing up I got I got an older brother, you understand me. He taught me the game at a young age. So at a young age, I wanted to solve my royal oats as well. And I looked at it that strikes on the belt you feel royal. Look how you make this ship. Sound ready understand me where I feel like always once a far you understand me, you know, no nice but yeah, I'm I'm a man. You understand imaculate being.

So can we go at a high level? You know, I've always had women attracted to me at a high level. You understand me. And I got multiple brothers. You understand me, and they've always had that as well. And you know, being from oakn California, learned how to speak very well and communicate with women. He said, I love the conversations that it ain't never been an issue. It's all I'm saying. But see, but but listen because a lot of men learn how to, you know, first get women through social media.

So that changed the dynamic psychologically or how they look at women and how they look at themselves. Right about our age though, we're the last reality, like you have to go to the mall. Yeah, you eat the movie theaters. You know that the man around thirty two to thirty five recently because I've always seemed to be attracted them in their forties and now I'm starting to like it because they kind of own the ship that I'm on.

They'll still do something nice like leave me a voice message or like not be scared to be a little about man, you just went a voice message, a lot of voice No, that mean that you didn't answer the call. You're sitting there so they can leave voice messages. I see you a voice note. Voice. You're not leaving a voice sail? Is it not a voice message when it's attempt after after the bre's a voice mess message. I

mean at the voice masch Yeah. Voice note is when they directly believing and they'd be talking nice and I like that. I don't like that because the voice notes. Now, nigga, why you can pick up your phone. I hate a text message. Yes, I like the voice but the text message to me is too casual. It's a letter. A text message is a letter, mention. It ain't no text message that it's a comment. You know what I mean. It's it's a it's a miniature letter, no standards. I

want a voice note. That's sad, that's really bad. Actually the voice knows some good food is some dick? Okay? Speaking of dicks, Yes, we're gonna get into yours. We'll not get into me alright. One of the craziest clips. And I told you this is why we brought ship made me laugh so hard, mainly because you know when you're like at this point where you hear something so woke that you're like, damn, am I sleep? So there was a dude you're interviewed all high level conversations. What

was his name? When I'm talking with the Snickers, and he talked about the oversexualization of black men, which we know is true, but one of the things you guys covered with seamen retention, which I feel like it is insane because I can't imagine I'm having sex. I'm like, oh, I told my home. I told Chris. So we were having this conversation today, um, because I can't remember she met you somewhere. I don't even I think maybe investments, um, and we were talking. I was like, yeah, he does

the seam. She said that nigga childish and I don't even want to hear about it because we hear about athlete with the way that women we we want to see that that's almost our sign of you being pleased by us, and that's doing our job. And like the way we talked about how you expect women to show you always do it. Who said, first of all, y'all. Y'all are saying a lot of things that I actually do or what I don't do. I don't think I said on that episode whether I practice actor seeming retention

all the time or not at all. I don't know that you were talking about it periods though, When when do you practice it? So, I mean I've tried it before, you understand me. I think that I first read up on seeming retension and the benefits, right, So what is it?

Let's talk about? So first benefit is disciplined, right. It's the same thing if you're fasten for food, right, And so we made the food sex connection on there, and the food sex connection is like when you eat, you're generally going to have more blood flowing down to your general your genital areas, right, So that's going to automatically leave opportunity for more excitement, you understand me? Or arouse you? Right?

Just food and sex period. But when we're talking about fasting, fasting now it's less blood going down towards your general areas. Now you're actually more disciplined, because when you are fasting from anything, you start to think about all the other things that you don't need as well, Right, excitement leaves the way to mind and so during sex it's the you know what happens during sex, You start breathing, you

start changing energy. Well, no, that's not coming. Revenge is holding your come and saving it and saving it and saving it. So to me, steeming retention just never having the peak or no, that's that's two different things. So it can be that it can be actually fastened from sex, right, or it can be during the time of sex. You are learning to disconnect orgasm from ejaculation. And I wanted to ask you that because it literally says you can

learn how to orgasm without ejaculating. What does that then? What does that? See? Well, now y'all talked about polygamy, right, so back in the day, let's say if a man has multiple women, he got to be able to satisfy those multiple women as well. Right. Imagine you're the one that don't get it. But what I'm saying, so if he can separate actually having uh ejaculating from his orgasm, then he can have sex over and over and over and over. Have you talked yourself how to do that?

You know, I'm gonna master of anything you have you ever? Um, I had recently, Like a friend of mine talks about breathwork and d m TW your brain naturally gives dm T is that part of it? Well, would you um have any orgasm? That's what they call cheat or energy right, So that's what they call mental orgasms as well. So the idea is keeping that energy sustained within the body, right, Because that's saying creative force, that powerful force that comes

together when you have sex. That's life force, that's creative force, that's producing force. So at the man has an orgasm or ejaculates is different than that the woman, our body breaks down because now we have to recreate that semen right. Where a woman's body is different, she can continue to have orgasms without getting tired. So a man's body is

from put different than a woman's body. So that's Western sex practice is just more so coming together having sex, whether you're talking about Eastern practices is more tentric where it is reviving of the energy and it is less of you know, humping and it's more of uh making love if you will, Yeah, it says. The other names for semen retention is quitis, reservatives, seeming o conservation, and

sexual continence. And like you were saying where we see it as a western part of Western civil civilizations to just have sex. It actually says that steaming retention is part of practices such as Taoism tantric sex. Like you said, uh my tuna careza and kayan pu yang yang she said, now like literally bro though times. But yeah, that's the

weaving of energy. That's what that's what that tantric is is weaving your energies together, you understand me, which actually makes the sex last longer rather than just jumping into it is a real, real I've only done tantric sex with women, which is the most intense thing because I think sometimes men that testosterone gets you in a rush. And with women I've had it on shrooms. It was

great tantwer sex. But it's like the refractory period for men, which is the time it takes to get back up, like women can keep having multiple orgasms or reserve it well. So you see. Also, I feel like women are selfish in that area the same men are selfish and men because nowadays women do not know how to help a man have multiple orgasm is the same way. Hold on the wait, wait, wait, let me finish my sentence. Let

me finish my sentence the same way. Historically men have not known how to have help women have multiple orgasms. But see the whole idea of the Eastern It is a partnership, y'all, both coming together to help each other

expand in that area. Right, And that's kind of like how you know you got to think about sex is the same way you kind of do the relationship and a little bit at the same time, right, because people usually put responsibility on one partner for that comfort or that for that satisfaction, right when it's supposed to be a partnership of both energies coming together to help each

other climax to that area. Wholeheartedly agree, because I think pleasure has I don't know, I feel like sometimes it shifts where we put it all on the women like she is the servicemen, and then a lot of like Pello princesses women that just to go hello, pillo, Hello, there we go he said it, right, You think I can't say the word pillow? How you saying hello hello whatever? Where women will just pretty much lay there and not

do much, right. But I think it has shifted over time as like men have to fund the shift out of you women have to make sure they do this, And really, in reality, the best sex I've ever had is when we're both pleasers, and when you're both focused on pleasing each other, it turns into the best sex. And truly, that's kind of what tantra is. You do have to connect with each other's bodies, and I think

it's a very sexy thing to learn each other. Like a lot of people will come on here and say their best tip for sexist communication, which gets exhausting, But

all that really means is talking about it together. Like, yeah, you can tell somebody what you want, but you should be asking too, because I would hate if someone sucked me, especially after seven years of doing this show, and be like she was terrible, Like but maybe you just weren't for him, Like maybe you could be too kiky, too freaky, too nasty for somebody and they could think that you were bad. But I definitely am a chameleon with sex.

What does it mean? It means like if I know I've got a really really really nasty bitch and then maybe one is just kind of like, oh I just want to I'll do that. I I get off on whatever you're getting off on to be honest. Yeah, I have my own kings, But like, I think that's how we can learn to be better partners. We should figure out what you like and take pleasure and you having pleasure. And a lot of people can't do that, you know what I'm saying. They're so focused on themselves that we

can't enjoy the other person having pleasure. That means being able to give someone an orgasm and getting nothing from it. Like if you're only thinking about yourself during sex, it's not really going to be that enjoyable, how, you know what I mean? I think that people just need to learn how to number one half partnerships. You understand me. Like when we talk about relationships, I think everybody kind

of you know, uh, dehumanizes each other. The way men talk about women, the way women talk about man is completely dehumanized. There's nothing spiritual about it anymore at all. And if you don't have a spiritual connection with a person, and that relationship is gonna end at some point in time, quick, right, all of those other things that's going to keep you together, Like what Mayweather talked about, number one the reason for

most divorces finances. So the statement didn't make sense. To me because Maywhether got he can barely read in right, right, I ain't gonna say that, I don't I think the right. But he's highly intelligent. You understand me, you you don't, you don't. You don't get to the level of Mayweather of ownership, of being undefeated and creating those kind of

deals and getting that kind of money. You know, one thing he knows to read is the contracts, and I feel like that's enough, especially for black because a lot of black men know how to read a lot of books, but when it comes to them contracts and that legal leaves, they don't know how to do that. And he does pretty good business as far as him being able to amass that well. But I just wanted to say that.

But at the end of the day, you know, when you're talking about most relationships or felling because of money, and then also just the courture today around marriage, right, there's no marriage culture, there's no real celebration of that. There's more celebration the whole courture than there is family culture.

That's fair, And I think that we're in a in a space of sexual liberation for where women never could like celebrate the fact that they enjoyed sex, that they enjoyed their bodies, that they enjoyed the things that they could wear. You're saying is basically the umbrella of celebration of But to me, it's free, it's sexually freedom because I was gonna say when I say, when I make jokes, when I talk about whole ship, right, yeah, like I don't. I wish I was getting some dick, but I ain't

even know how right now. But I'll joke about me one because to me it's the umbrella of like, I'm sexually liberated, right, right, I'm free to do whatever I want to have a lot of ownership over my body. I know what I like the right to do that. So I understand where women have been historically oppressed, right, and many different facets. I think what's dangerous is today where the word freedom and liberation is used where a lot of people can actually become slaves that they sexual

desires and it's not freek. They're more addicted to it, right, So when you start crossing the line where sexual addiction or a person is actually you know, being enslaved by the lower desires because they can't control themselves, that's not liberation and that's not freedom. But everything can fit under this umbrella. So I think that the brand is misguided. What brand the brand of sexual liberation and sexual freedom? So see this, this is where it's like it teeters

for me. A lot of our show is about unleashing kinks and sex lives of people. Right, it goes to different umbrellas, like an episode with yours. It's not necessarily that, but many people that we've learned over the years don't really understand one how to channel their sexual energy to what they're into, or three how to explore it in a safe way. That to me is under that umbrella.

Because if I don't have dialogue with when i'm whether it be at a college or at our Lives show, a lot of women will come out to us say I had my first orgasm because of you, or I was able to lose my virginity because I had sexual trauma and I couldn't disconnect it like it's all in there. What about the or to have all of you know, the sexual problems where they don't have sexual discipline? Right? So is that community being addressed as well? Where the

right men and women? Right, it's it's men and women. I'm not when I hear the sex culture is not just the women's cultures as men and women that is now participating because there's if women are having sex with men, then you know, I mean, it's both our courts. I'm not a fan of sex actics. I dated one. It was awful, right, So, but that's what I mean. A lot of people are being driven by sex, right they

most most people, most marketing is based on sex sex sales. Right, So you're buying the fly clothes, the shoes, that all of this stuff so you can increase your chances of having sex. Right. That's that's This is the probably one of the bigger issues with relationships is that men trying to increase their chances of having sex, they have sex with the woman. Woman becomes emotionally connected, she has expectations of the man. Man has no expectations of the self.

She's heart broken, she hates man, and then it's a cycle. I do think this is a male lead thing, though, and I'll tell you why. I think that most things that women do are for the male gays. I think that the reason horrible decisions became quote unquote popular to some is because we doesn't need to be air quotes around popular. No, I mean quote unquote. I was saying why this popular this particular reason because we do talk

about sexual health. But when I air quotes, it is because Mandy and I were normal girls talking about our own sex lives right without fear of men judging us. And a lot of times any home girl I have to me, I have I'm friends with a lot of baddies. The ship they do is for the male gays, and it's because men are sexually driven. I noticed a different difference singing and I'm not playing with you. If I wear this outfit out or I'll wear a skirt, men

coming up to me is a huge difference. When I saw you at that black fleat market ship the week before, I wear a week the month before I were addressed. Nikas was on my dick. I have the same face, bro. So at the end of the day, what is it? What's really going on? Where his grades were different? Are women over sexualizing themselves to get men? Well, a lot of them. They're doing it to get money, you understand me. I think that now it's for success. A lot of

it ain't even for men no more. Right now they understand that the curture of sex sales. Like I heard a woman talking about, well, she went and got her new ass because she knew there was going to increase her opportunities. Right, So a lot of this, you know, body modification has nothing to do with men, per se, has everything to do with women ambition right towards success and careers and opportunities that they want because men don't, I mean to be honest, especially when it comes to

like fake assis and stuff. We don't care about that kind of stuff, you understand me, not not not the larger population of men. To look at the large but you said, we're talking about the sixth what you're talking about visual creatures as you brought up with women are being in social media now, but the ambition is to land the men with the money who are going to spend the money on that, right. But they're doing it for the likes and the comments now, right, So they're

not doing it for the male gays. They're doing it for society's gays, right, so that they can increase because now women are watching those videos with women that have you know, the large asses and the breast and all of this stuff. They're doing it for views. They're doing it to become personalities. They're doing it. Do you believe this? But the bartenders all got their bodies done to make more money and to get access to the men with money.

That's that's still capitalism. You're not doing it for a partner though, that's different. And a lot of women who don't want to fully work and maybe don't want to be a startender or bartender forever, they're hoping to land a man that can provide for them. So then they're really doing it so that they can be that. How are they can provide for themselves? They understand me. So a lot of women they're trying to figure out how do I capitalize off society standards? Are selling sex the

male gays without eat, needing a man. So the idea is, I'm going to capitalize visually. How I know men are attracted and stimulated by this, but I don't actually want a man, you understand me. So it's a completely different than a woman saying that I'm going to wear this small dress so that I can get a man. I'll be honest, and then I I I feel like it's the opposite. And unfortunately it's because where men mostly do

leave with their pockets. Women are doing this because maybe they don't want a certain type of man, they want a certain type of lifestyle, and so literally a lifestyle normally comes with the attachment to a man. I only want to be a housewife, and I don't want to work. I just want to be at home, and I want the nice bags, and I want the nice car, and

I want to live in the mansion. So even going to modify their body is in hopes to land that man that will get them the lifestyle that they truly want. That's part of it. But also when you look at like look at female rappers, most their main audience is not man, right, but yet they're very sexualized in a

wedy that they dress. Right, you're gonna look at why, You're gonna look at um any one of those there was are like women and young girls that's watching that, and like gay men that's watching that for the most part the same time, right, that was the core audience that they getting their money from. So I'm saying that a lot of this sexual liberation, a lot of this culture now is based on capitalism, has nothing to do

whether you actually want a partner or not. So how do you then become the person that to me, I think one of the things that really helped me developed into a good partner and woman was being able to have some leadership roles and become independent. I really believe it fueled me into being a better partner. Like I understood what it was like to manage people, to manage my own house and my own ship, and now I think I can live the life to where I can have some time about I have the team and I

could be a good partner. But how do we as women become that quote unquote boss bitch and at the same time be able to still find someone that we can meet that will give us those family, that family that we all want. Right, Well, what do you want to do the person that you with? Do you want

to help them? What do you want to do for the person that you But here's the thing, though, because the person that you're with, if they're not here yet, right, Like, That's what I'm saying because basically this independence is a deterrent to men that are successful, Because you're right, successful men don't want what did he want to Shopper say, like, I don't Tiana great whatever, I don't need none of that. So it's like, how do you coexist? To me? What do I want to do? I would love to be

someone's partner in crime. I would love to know that you can come home at night. I really I would love a man to know that I'm not a robber bank well. I don't want to just rub your head, bro, I want you to know that I'm also well read, I'm also smart. That feels good to me, and it gives me. I asked the question because I think it's very clear as far as what society expects from men, but there's not much clarity on what what society expects from whom. I do agree with that you understand. But

I shouldn't be answering that question though. That's the question to you. But then women said they don't want man's opinions. So it's a very confusing thing what I'm saying. But y'all, y'all started this off with you know what I'm saying, you don't want opinions and man's opinions because because but though women are taking that as disrespect, they're saying that this is misogyny, this is this that in the third So there's a lot of conversation of men seeing what

they want. I think misogyny is in your face. Don't be doing X y Z basically sit at home, do nothing. But that's that's the thing too. And everything that you just said, and I was I was listening. I feel like you have to understand in partnership, right, you said, I can read a book, I can do this, I can manage, and I'm not saying I can't. All right at my point, but let me finish. You said that

that makes you feel valuable. How you feel valuable to yourself is not necessarily how you're gonna show up in value toee partner. And so the things that you pride yourself and being able to do that may not matter at all you do. He just asked me, what do I want to do for a man? So I can only explain what I read in a book like that's for me, you know, for a factor. I'm that ba. My niggas don't even know what man. Let me talk because you're I'm not I'm letting, I'm asking you. Then

you're trying to throw a book in my face. I have all I'm not throwing a book at all. What I'm saying, stop being so defensive. Literally what I'm saying, don't tell me what you just said. You feel value in and hold pride in is what also NINETEENA saying where we are prideful and feel we hold value in being boss as bitches a man may not. So his question was, then, how, how and in what ways would you bring value to a partner outside of He didn't say outside of you just asked me. And then let's

look at it like this. When a man builds himself up, part of the way he's building himself up is so that he can be a good partner to a woman. Right. When a woman thinks about ambition, the way she builds herself up has nothing to do with whether she's going to be a good partner to a man. Right, So I then ask the question what is a woman supposed

to do? What is her role in the relationship? Because I remember when there was big conversation around well what does a woman bring to the table, and a lot of people just say at presents, And obviously that's not enough because then now have the ability to have the presence of women like they are kings now, which is my point in saying that I do think there's any to me. You can learn how to cook, bro, I'm sorry you can't. You can't really learn how to be nurturing.

And I know that's one of my greatest assets in any relationship platonically as well. But when I say that I'm not just a girl that will cook and clean, I do have more to me. That point was to say that to me is the value that I also bring. But I I think it's something to bring up because

it seems as though it's a deterrent to men. How can women show up as strong people and also be in their feminine energy because we look the word strong is very interesting in the way it's used, right, because like and and and that's specifically in context of like black courture. Right, because strong woman don't want to be called a strong life because that's that's masculine. Right. How can you show up as a feminine woman because a

man want a feminine woman. Right. You're talking about strength for yourself, but it has nothing to do with whether that's a value in the relationship. Because femininity is strength. So if you have strength and know if you're strong in the areas of being nurturing, being the helpmate, being a communicator, right, being able to be intuitive, being a guide in that area. Then now you have value, right, because now I have this woman on my side, that's

like my second mind over here. You understand me, Like, that's that's an increased value. She sees things that I don't see. She has the energy that I don't have. She brings that to me. Right, she see things about myself that I don't see about myself. Right, that's a that's a powerful guiding energy that you can have in a woman. Right. She's like, you know, all great men throughout time, you can't become president as a single man. Right, you have to have a family because leading a family

this micro cause him to leading a nation. It's always married men are the most successful, and I mean that's that's having that's having the made. But isn't it interesting that single women almost seem the most success And it's like that's the mother? What is what is your great of success? What I'm talking about, Like when you talk about CEOs, are just women out there most great success? Though?

It's the question because you gotta also financially like the men that are making money out Let's look at historically, why are women in a position, specifically black women, Right, in a position at the end, right now, right, So when you look at our community, specifically black community, it's a very different kind of dynamic than anybody else Historically.

It's not that black men have been lazy. Right, there's nowhere in history where you can find from eighteen sixty five, we got out of slavery, industrial ages, black men starting businesses, created Greenwood and created sixty plus more towns that was destroyed by this government America. Right, there was the crack agenda. There was multitude of different things, redlining, lack of loans, black code, so many different things, pipeline to prison, bad

education system. So it wasn't that black men was just being lazy for the last a hundred plus years. No, it's that we have always been most targeted group in America. Right, and capitalism as we white or women go after, they call it patriarchy, but they're talking about white capitalistic structures that black men have never been included in at a

high level to become successful. So now they find our women to be less threatening and they're opening up that door because that further creates a wedge and the gap. Look at the conversations being had now, right that your success is weaponized to say that we're failures. They are giving women the door. You're saying, well, absolutely doors have been opened. So women are Look at Kamala Harris right as a vice president. Look at you know, um um,

what's the judge that just became the judge. Then you've got all these there's a lot of black women in positions of power. When they talk about diversity, they're going to promote different black women there and they putting out their gender. They're gonna put a black woman in front of that to represent them. The power structure is still the same. But this individual success is supposed to represent progress for the Black community, which it doesn't. Right, one

person successful does not present progress whatsoever. That's just their career. Now, the reality of it is is that all of that has also been built off the backs of Black men being killed and murdered and thrown in jail. Look at the whole thing with George Floyd. He had to be killed for a lot of white guilt to be propped up to the height that it is. And now diversity and inclusion is representation of women and black women leadership.

But you have never seen a campaign ever where said that we want to have more black male inclusion or black mail diversity. There has never been a campaign to this day. It still doesn't women have been counted out. I'm not saying you haven't been counted out, But in that same token with black women have been counted out,

black men have always been counted out. I agree with you on that too, so but I'm saying that the success that black women are enjoying is a part of the fact that black men have been a war economically in this country. So now we're looking at the results of the last one years and black women saying that, look, we're successful. What y'all nigga is doing, It's like, you know that the reason that everything has been cutted up

in atmosphere, it's because of everything that happened before. It's not that just just generation is just better than the women and men before. Women black women are not understanding that men are in Black men specifically are incarcerated at alignment rates, or that the crack emmagemic epidemic ruined families. But like, but that's not don't step up like black women do. That's just facts. We can google this ship, but that you can't say. But that is huge there's

no other people in America that can say that. Like, so when you say, who cares that the incarceration is high black men? But I'm saying but when you say but, it minimizes, it minimizes that reality. Right when listen, black men on the most targeted. We have the highest rates of homicide, violence, cancer, every disease. We have the worst statistics of any group in America. Yet it's not seen as the highest priority in America. When people talk about activism,

why because nobody cares, you understand me. So when black men, young black men today at this generation are starting from from way behind in the eight ball. And then they also saying that, well, now you're behind this black woman who's doing better than you. So it's becoming weaponized against each other. Now its battleless success of the sexist. Now

her financial success is a representation of your failure. Right, And this is what's crossing a bigger widen gap because she's saying that I'm doing better than you what you're doing nigger, and you're not. You are of the generation that gets the benefit because this is where society is. But that's only because of everything that happened before you. I don't want to believe because I don't speak that way about man that makes less than me that are doing.

I don't ever be like, what the funk are you doing?

I want to know somebody out there. That's the tone though, that's the tone that men here when we talk about it ain't what you say is how you said all the time, even with men that talk about women and the things that they want from women most of the time in correct, but their tone, then let's maybe dig into I feel like when I have this conversation with black women millionaires, typically they always say something to me about how they've never felt like they were prioritized that

men that are in their lane or of their caliber are dating models that aren't black, whether they be Latina or and we know they're halfhi Latina's but or white women, like, what about the black women that are feeling left out? When did when did any time in the world black man said that they wanted or man said that they wanted a millionaire woman, that's something that she wanted for herself,

but it was never a qualification for attractiveness. And on the foot five, as women, we do think that and men have always want what I'm saying we want six. My point about that THO was success in men. We're talking about successful women. Are the successful men going after black women? Yeah, a lot of successful most black men marry black women. Yes, that's true. Most people of any

race married their own race. But we do see a lot of glorified relationships where black men successful, which means the media and say, we don't Black people don't own the media if we had our opportunities. Women don't have that idea of putting it black men down, so that whereas that that is glorified in the media. But I don't want to make the monolith of black women being successful and going out If I had a daughter, I would want her to go out there and get it too.

You know what I'm saying. I think that I love the fact that black women are getting money and are successful. But you also see the challenges now right that we're talking about nature of masculine and feminine. Right, men are not going to change their nature to be attracted to women with money. That's not it, right. So a man with money just wants to and they every time that

we got to start posting the food. Man and women should not just be going for men with money, and I think that's probably the bigger issue because most black men ain't got that much money, so most black men women don't want the average man. That's the whole Kevin Samuel's argument is that your expectations are higher in reality, and when you look at the numbers, right, so now you've got twenty women, a hundred women, a thousand women going at the one man, and then you mad at

that man for choosing ten percent of the options. We had that clip that you, um, what was it about women competing? M hmm. Do you think that women should be competing for man? And if so, what are the things that can make a woman stand out. I think human beings can always compete for each other because at the end of the day, a man don't want to have any what you know, good man, let's say I'm good man, don't want any woman to have his baby, and a woman don't want to have a baby with

any man. So they're always going to be competing with what they feel like is the top of the stock. That's human nature, that's beyond society rods. When you strip people of jobs titled careers, all of that, we talk about human beings so I feel like developing yourself to be the best person possible, right, increases your attractiveness. Now, the problem is is that what we're socially engineered to see as attractive is these things that will bring a

person to you, but they're not gonna keep you there. Right. So, well, if I even want to compete in the social atmosphere of what people are attracted to, I gotta step out, fly God, look a certain way, right, I gotta have these particular brands on. I got to have social status, right, I have to have some money. So this is how I even be seen. Now I'm competing against people who are seeing in that same life. Right. So now, of course, now you got to be a communicator. Now you've got

Now the personality comes into it. Now when you're dating that person, how do you keep that person so they don't end up going to somebody else? Now you're talking about character, right, how do I treat this person where we can have longevity? It may work out for a year, maybe two, then they're back in the dating pool. Right. So it's different levels. And I believe that in old times they used to think about character. What type of person is that? Right? You bringing somebody home to your parents.

Is this a noble person? Who's their family, what's their background, where they come from. It was a real investigation into the character of who these people were. Now this investigation on what they have rather than who they are. For sure, when you talk about top of the stock people, specifically for women, since we know that it's not success or money, what are some things you think off the bat? Are it for women that are competing for them? Um? I

think look at the things that break up relationships. Um, just loyalty, honesty, discipline, focus, passion. Right, we're gonna get to this. You know, sex, but you can't you can't know that. You can't know the sexual part of y'all have sex, you understand me. So sex is an experience you gotta have with somebody. The rest of you, I mean everything else. You can start investigating at least to

start looking for those things, right, you understand me. You can have a communication about what type of sex, and you can learn little things about a person, but you ain't gonna know until you do it right, So you can't you know, you can't test out everything before you buy it. You know, I'm talking about some things. You you know you just gotta get uh, nonphysical communication about right.

But as a man, you know, because it's it's the phase that we skip now in society, which is that whole um um what they call it when you're not sexually with somebody and you have somebody there with you. Yum, Tommy, you know what, tom I feel like the word. Yeah, we know that was always a part of relationships, even with marriages, right, there was a courting phase. We don't court first. What should women be expecting from men with

courting today? Well? Yeah, I mean I would say, you know, all of the I can't tell you about the different dating types. I don't even know. Some women like flowers, some people don't like hours, some people want to I think that basic things is communication, right, talking with somebody? Can they hold a conversation that keeps you interested for a long period of time? Right? Because if they can, and y'all feel like, yo, I can just chill with this person and talk for hours, then you maybe could

be with that person for days. Then you may be that person for weeks or months. But if y'all can't hold a decent conversation, but you sexually attracted to that person, So let me just forget about that. Or the person got money is I don't need to talk to them much anyway. But so what we do is we often ignore the signs instead of magnify, right, So we ignore all the red signs for some of the green signs. You understand me, Well, this is a go, so for

get the real signs. You can't even talk to breath for an hour straight, two hours straight, right, And I'm talking about not in though heightened situation. It's the most beautiful restaurant in the world. Can y'all fucking sit on the park bench and talk to each other and hold each other? You know what I'm saying. That might not be sexy for how society looks at it, but I'm talking about long term relationships. If you want short term

and none of this matters for you. If you are long term, then who they are and who you are, and those two people actually meeting matters the most that I'd agree with that, And what is their religion? What is the ethnicity? This is the thing. It's not just about dating inside race. You gotta dating inside your ethnicity. Right. The difference between race and ethnicity is vast. The person you can date a black woman, but her ethnic background

could be a different religion. Right, she speaks a different type of language, she has a different customs and beliefs and values. Right, do you all share that same ethnic background with each other, because those are gonna be the things that keep you together. Why do you think that is, though, because there's so many to me interracial relationships and not that I'm in one to whatever. I'm just saying, like, why do you think that the ethnicity boils down to it?

Because ethnicity is those share common values that you have. You understand me, those beliefs that you have, because in the Black community, we don't all share the same beliefs on relationships, share the same belief on politics, share the same belief on God, right, share the same beliefs on how masculine and feminine roles are supposed to go with

inside that relationship. So if you meet a woman of the same ethnic background but of a different race, you may feel like she has more shared things with you that you can get along with. Right, So we don't often realize that all Black people have different ethnicities as well inside our diasporas, So we think we have to jump all the way outside of our race to find somebody of the same ethnicity. Do you what when you're

like dating, do you ever think about that? Because I mean, I told you I'm dating a Muslim right now, and it's or I did multiple Muslims actually, but I think that's also just because I like niggas from Harlem apparently, and everybody is a Muslim um. I don't know the knowledge, so I don't look at that. I'm one of those people that questioned so much. I don't think I'm coming in with the way I perceive what I want my

household to be. I'm also a woman that doesn't want marriage or children, so to me, how I date, how I look for a partner is definitely different than someone who's looking. You know, I told you how people treat kids period, like, and this was yesterday. I said this. I watch it all the time, down to how men talk to my dog. I think it's really important to see how people treat kids or someone younger, because that always tells me character how I just stay away from them.

That's I mean, how do you always get in a situation where you're around a person and children or I'm saying, like a barbecue, know as you're developing a relationship when they're on the to a barbecue in in a minute. I ain't never said I ain't been to barbecue'll be saying stuff, I ain't been to a barbecue in a minute. A lot of kids like I just was very just for me. That's one of those partnership things where like

it's a hard note I'm going a few days. I see how they're talking to someone young, if they answer the phone to a family member, how they speak to him, especially the mother. Also one of those when when men talk about their exes and they shoot on them immediately. I don't like that idea that people gotta hate their exes. That's terrible. I also think that people just hold onto trauma to victimize themselves and make themselves feel better about

their own role in their self destruction. My ex as a piece of ship, but the other ones was good. The recent one was bad. But to be really, when ever I talked about him as someone else, I make sure not too emotionally dump because I do want men to know like I chose to be with this person for a certain amount of years. I liked something about then he was a whole I thought that was what connected us in the beginning. I just didn't know he was gonna keep holding. You know what I'm saying speaking

of hoing and in relationships. So before we get out of here, I want to talk about new dynamics and relationships. So we see throut poles, we see a lot of threesomes going on, things like that. Do you think in the age of polygamy, that's to me an older thought. We're now polyamory is more of a new thing that people can prosper in that in polygamy, poly polygamy is when the women aren't we're just the man can have

multiple partners. Polyamories where they both date each other, doesn't even say men, let's make it easy for you men dating women that also are dating each other. Or throttles where the women have sex with each other. That's that's a new idea of polygamy. But that was never the idea of polygamy. Um the idea of polygamy was was completely different. It was it was based on foundations of nation building and like bringing people into the household, but

doing it the right way. Right, So you know these new ideas and standards that people just create definitions and just put on work. That's why I always acting people what does that mean to you? Because I don't want to be having a conversation which we talked about two different truffles. Right, you have women that are bisexual, like again we're speaking with men. I don't think it's gonna work.

I'll just put a blanket statement on it. I think that because I think everything in a long time, right, It's like everybody got all these new concepts of how they want to run businesses. But then you've got people that's been running business for thirty fifty years and these always they come and they go right, even you know in uh in the stock trading world, right, people can have successful ways they go about making a million dollars, two million dollars, but can they do it again? Right?

And so a lot of people are going for can things satisfy my desires in the short term? So so are you then saying you're a fan of monogamy for two people? I am yes. I mean because I think that that's where you first learn yourself and you learn discipline and you learn relationship. Is I think everything else is you're not wanting to learn yourself in that and you want to throw in all of these other uh circumstance. What about a couple that get some pussy just the

vacation you go to Vegas? She cut. Do you think that can ruin when couples start exploring, because we see that a lot couple of a lot of couples like that, A lot of couples that have started exploring threesomes have been ruined because of that in a long term. They think that it's cool in the short term, and then they realized, like damn, it wasn't for me or the other person wants to consistently have that thing happen, And now you know emotionally and spiritually that relationship is not

the same. The thing about you know, relationships is that you build a certain integrity. Right. Integrity is the foundation of something, right, it is what it's made of. When you add somebody else in that, they disrupt the integrity of that. So it's no longer the same thing that you are initially built. Adding them to the relationship into the sex, because once you're adding them into the sex,

you're adding them into the most powerful part of the relationship. Right. Physically, we got memories as well, not just mentally, so our body remembers the people that we with, We remember the circumstances that were in So sex is one of the most powerful part of the relationships. So if you add somebody in there, even casually, they're out part of that relationship history. You know what I'm saying. Your relationship got a blockchain. They don't forget. It's called the cock chain.

All right, I was Do you feel like we went easy on you? No, I went easy on y'all. Know what, I ll get people what they want. What's your favorite position? Man um on the throne? You know, I'm telling ball, I just like being a nice thought leader. You know what I'm saying, teaching people the game, you know, as a black guy from you. And it can't be communication. Man, I would say, massage beforehand. You understand me. If you give each other massages, you understand me. It changes the

dynamics of sex. It electrically charges and connect y'all sound like this is disgusting. You are him? This is so weird. Hey, where I gotta go? Because listen secrets. But listen, No, that's that's that's that's been a secret throughout time. This is the thing about sex is the oldest thing we've ever done. And then to stretch you after. That's another thing you before stretching. Chill, chill, chill, chill, chill. No, but for real though, because listen, Sexually, the massage creates

a deeper intimate connection. Now, if you want to go to a whole another level, you understand me, you might want to medit. No, listen, no, listen. You all already talked about all of the physical stuff, so I'm gonna give you some of the spiritual go ahead. So you know, y'all sitting close to each other on the end of the bed, y'all got some of the tents. Y'all can be naked or with y'all you know, you don't have

to be naked before. And but it got full clothing y'all in the bit you know, talking about so the street clothes, No, not at all, right, So then y'all got the music flowing. You know what I'm saying, put on some radio hypsi and drum music. Gyps and drums like you don't talk to like Joe Brent fire has Well, I ain't at I ain't going into my playlist. What

I'm saying is you're throwing some of that music. So now y'all cat in the same vibration, y'all in the same mental space, because y'all, let's say if you had your own day, he had his own day. Y'all can be in two completely different mental planes. So what y'all doing is y'all connecting right on the same mental plane and spiritual plane. Then y'all connecting on the physical plane.

You don't talking about man, you're talking about the sex or the medic It could be, it could be sure, it could be five minutes, you know what I'm saying. It could be to him and depending on y'all, but it doesn't have to go that long. But it's like you all the sort of like visualizing connecting together, right, and so creating that connection beforehand, then you are going into the most electrical thing that human beings can do, right,

which has provide each other pleasure. You understand me, And that's one of the highest states of joy. So I believe that instead of you are bringing the world into your bedroom from all of the thoughts, ideas and things, you're in a calm state when you have sex, so you're not passing along with your problems and issues. You understand me, That's why a lot of people may like smoke, and it makes the man go. He go go longer

because he's calmer. Right, So when the sexes are riled up, that's when the man starts to have an orgasm and ejaculate. But if you come into a calmer state, now you know you can handle what can we do? If it's not Egyptian drums, that might freaking it ain't gotta just be Egyptian. It could be ocean ways, could be nature sounds, it could be anything. And then y'all can go into

y'all playlist or whatever y'all want to put off. They can just talk about me because I was like, I don't do the stars and moon shap He's like, nigger, you put on galaxy lights and you know you gotta do the cost of energies. You know what I'm talking about. But that's that's the key though. But see that's what I'm saying. So you know women that got the plants and she got the oils, and you know, she man, let's talk about the plants, and that's life because listen, plants.

Lets me know at least an aspect that you're nurturing, You understand, because you gotta consistently water plants. For a woman to be in a relationship with a man, she gotta water him as well. That ain't work. That's regular, that's regular stuff. See, this is this is femininity, is what I'm telling you. That way. You gotta be feminine to think that way. You know what I'm saying man to look at women in that way? No, you're just

gonna be masculine and feminine. I think this idea, like woke mean so many different things to so many people. Some people say woke is the new sleep, Woke is political ships hate. I mean woke as far as like, I don't know if men have ever came at home and they always comment on my plans because there's a lot, but ever came in and said you're a nurturer because there are plans? No, I don't think conscious thing. It's like when you go into a woman's atmosphere, it just

should be a certain type of energy because that's your energy. Right. If you come in there and there's no life in there, how you gonna bring life to me? You know I'm talking about if you go in there there's no food in the kitchen, You understand me? I know you don't cook, right, So these are subconscious things that we noticed a woman having, like the plants and the crystals and all of those different things. That's how she charges herself up right, A

woman has a different responsibility than man. Y'all have a wound. We don't have that. So those different things that you have to do to take care of that wound, because you're going to bring life, you have the ability to bring life. You are completely more emotionally available than man because you have a woe, right, So you produce different estrogen and different chemicals. So your environment should be a

reflection of your nature. Right the same way, if you're going too a man's home and everything is pink, it's not reflective of his nature. You don't want that kind

of man. I don't want a dirty when I know that when they have a clean when you see because also that's that's a I think that's very masculine as well, because it's very logical, right, clean cleanliness, You understand me, because now it's it's like a man when he wants to do something going to O C D. I need everything to be in perfect state so I can think.

So what you're looking at is you're looking at a chamber of thoughts like this is a thinking man's room unless it's like a creative and then they can work in different chaos. Yeah, I sick another night and I was like, oh, I'll take a picture of the plate when I've done this thing. Was like, m that doesn't really do anything for me. Send me a picture of the kitchen. Think cleaned, all the all the pots of pads, I sort of guy, all the pots of players, Show

me a clean think that actually is? What with your dating there? Well? You know, I think it's an interesting question to pose of as someone that doesn't want kids or marriage, but its dating a Muslim man? How do you make sure that does he ever complain about that? Because like he's been happy in his relationship with you. What I'm saying like, does he ever feel like he's unfulfilled?

Because those are some of the things that you're saying, that black musliman one that depends on what his vision is, you understand me. I think that the idea for most men is you got a vision that your woman is going to produce children because you want to you want to reproduce yourself. That's legacy, right, That's that's a very

high standard of manhood. Right, So when you talk to anybody, you gotta ask them what their long term vision is because for me, I can tell when the relationship don't work is when they don't have alignment, right if there are non negotiables that I have on the table and you have some on the table and there's nothing else to go from me non negotiable because I think that's also just an unfair way to view women, knowing that

so many have fertility issues and can't create life. Um, And so to me, it has more to do not even with religion, but more so what you want out of partnership, not even family building, just because I do know, like and that's the conversation I've had with so many of my friends that I feel as though, well, what is my value with men if I can't create life? And so yeah, I mean, I still just want to be very clear that that's that's every woman can So

every woman can't. But that's a sub topic, and I think that's a very much smaller percentage that people make decisions from, right, people that have reproductive issues, and that's completely different. That is a physical thing. You're talking about people that just don't want to have children because that's part of their beliefs, you understand me, and they don't.

They don't want to. And I also don't want it to be conflated because some people can use that argument when it has nothing to do with the reason why they don't want to have children. Are you. Are you with like new reproductive ways like egg freezing in? I mean I wouldn't. I mean for people that need it, Yeah, the people that really want to have children, if they like adopted and figuring out all of these different stuff

that's on them. But I feel like as a as an alternative because of the way you want your lifestyle to be, I'm not cool with it. You know what I gotta say. You impressed me with that answer because you're not as all the way as I thought you were. I don't appreciate women who may believe in science or not can't be empathetic enough to understand why women would want to make that choice. Yeah, I mean, I'm multidimensional. I just look at everything, not from my perspective. I

look at everybody perspective. I'm not just talking to people who think like me. I'm talking to the world. So if I'm talking to the world. I'm thinking of, like, what is a circumstance in a condition where this would be acceptable because this person doesn't have the same ability like every other human being. Then yeah, but I feel like once it becomes an alternative right because of lifestyle, then that's you want to stay skinny. No, it's very

important for men to hear you say that seriously. Yeah, I think it's I think too many people do use the excuses of using like modern ways, and then they start throwing in statistics and stuff that have nothing to do with them, right, and so they actually disrespect the people that actually need those alternatives because it has nothing to do what they need. I told Mandy on a Patreon episode recently that I just found out I had five braids and the doctor told me I gotta freeze

my eggs. And I told one of my male friends and he was like, You're gonna meet so many men that ain't gon gonna with you after that, And I'm like, yo, Like I couldn't even believe he said that to me instead of saying like, sorry, that happens to you. But with steady unlike people want natural kids, I'm like the ag freason means I can still carry the kids. I mean, just today, I feel like I don't know what men and women won't out there. I think people have all

sort of different things that they want. Now I'm surprised every single day I learned something that you did, so I can't say what men and women don't want. I feel like these alternative lifestyles that I'm seeing every single day is let me know that they don't even know what they want. What's something alternative you think you do? I ain't doing no alternatives. I am no alternative. Well before we get out, but I'm gonna say this. I feel like being uh, the type of like black guy

that I am, masculine energy that I am. I'm already to alternative to society because I feel like this is no longer the norm. I'm the exception. Now you understand me. And so being like myself is where young men are trying to get themselves up to right because I grew up with a different kind of foundation. I grew up in the state where I've seen black men with money and power and consciousness right and business and entrepreneurship. Right.

I I look and I study the great so for me, I'm of this the one percent on the planet Earth. I'm not in representation of the average male, you understand me. So I'm trying to teach to be above average. I am, and that's why I'm a good representation because you know, um, I'm teaching people how to walk in their power, how to think with power. And at the same time, I don't make excuses for ship. Understand me, everything I got

is because I went and built it myself. I want to learn something and then I did something about them. Nothing was given. There's no wars given, there was no doors open. That's why I made a tweet the other day. It's like, it ain't no more O g s out here, and I wasn't talking about like it ain't old people

that give advice. It's plenty of them, but it ain't people that is in industries that's opening the doors and providing opportunities for younger generation because they see that potential and they want to help guide them in that space. So for me, what I do is I actually educate and I teach people. And now our goal is to open up some type of opportunities that I didn't have. You know what I'm saying because I do want to duplicate myself. It shouldn't just be one fine guy walking around.

You can't do that ship without let it go. I feel like the average person should stop chasing sex right now, right, men and women like I feel like this is a very important season for you to discipline yourself. We're going in a recession, possibly a global depression, right, and a lot of people spend money just on trying to increase their eyes and having sex. So let's be clear, we to keep watching this show. Okay, y'all keep watching the show,

but you don't need to keep watching them hosts. All right, that's this is a real I'm very serious though, because I feel like a lot of young men out there chasing sex and a lot of women out there chasing sex. Right, And that ambitious energy that you put towards sex, if it was put towards business or skill development, you will be in a much better place, right. You will are value. Don't focus too much, don't be too infous. No, I mean, I'm not gonna tell women to not be too ambitious.

I just want to say, make sure you develop yourself feminine. Right, there's a soft business life as well, right, where you're not trying to become a man in business. You want to become a woman in business. And I think early on women were trying to become just like men in business, and now I think the new turn of the century is how do I become how do I be feminine in business? At the same time, because the example of aspiration was white man, I want to be a CEO,

so that act just like a white man. So when you bring that energy back to the household, I want that. I want feminate energy. That's what attracts me. I do think there's a place for both. Like, um, there's this chick I was getting into it with online who said women aren't good leaders and or shouldn't be leaders, that she's a lazy leader. She said women shouldn't be leaders. There's there's no way for that. We need rules and protocol. But I gotta be real, like, I think that's a

really weak argument. And Mandy and I were saying, like, if maybe she talked about being a housewife or something like that, maybe that would make sense. But like, if you won't work, I do think you should be absolutely the best at what you do. I'm not out here to just be second fiddle to anybody, Like, no matter what I do, I'm going to be the best of the best, and that's probably why I am a leader

and what I do. However, I think that encouraging women to lead has opened a lot of those stories you were talking about when you talked about giving people opportunities. That's my real goal. First it was to get money, and then I realized, now I got what I want, and I love growing it for others. And I think we've got to give black women a lot more credit as they're hiring an alarming rates and black themen are doing a really good job at keeping Ship black. I've

been giving out so much money. I know you talked about Kenya Barry is recently about putting l g B t Q people in and Asian people and ship. But I work for him and I've managed seven figure budgets and I have yet to cut somebody white a check, like you know it's your cutty black Muslims from checks talk. But my point is like, we've definitely got to give these black women some credit. That's why I don't. I don't have no hate towards no black women. I love

black women. You understand me. And I love to see successful black women. I just don't like how media pits it against each other. You understand, it doesn't have to be that black women's success represents black men failures at

all like that. And I think that that's the key one we're talking about it because if we don't own the media, and black men don't own the media, black women don't own the media, so we don't own the narrative that we even discuss, right, And I think that that's the most dangerous thing because they control what we think about each other because they put out these arguments in these conflicts and they keep us talking about it as if that's the normal issue that exists in our

society and on the average day and basis, a black man knows a black woman that he gets along with, that he builds with, you understand me. And if those was highlighted more, it would be more examples for people to follow, people to watch, and people to go after. But because it's the negative bullshit that's being pushed by you know, these companies, therefore, we don't even look at each other as brother and sister and family matters anymore. Are you should we snap? I mean, it was poetic

tell us tell people where to find you. And you have a podcast, right yeah, Um, it's a talk show more than a podcast. What's the difference. Well, because it's more of a visual experience more than anything. If you go look at all of your talk shows back in the day, right, whether it was Oprah or whether it was I don't know, any talk show you think of, we rival them. You understand me at a high level, like when you watch it, it's a it's a visual

experience with the b row. It's like watching the documentary. You understand me. So, um, right now, we're just getting more into the audio experience, right to make sure that more people are listening to it as well. Audio got the dollars that YouTube CP don't think. Look I asked, I asked Charlotte Magne this morning about that. You understand me, And I asked the topio from Revolt and that was giving me the game on the video and the audio side.

Because video, I think we had like five million viewers last month. You understand me. So now it's trying to get up the audio side's interesting thing. Like we remember academics went on and said nobody listened to horrible decisions thinging ship because he's a YouTube guy and Charlotte Magne got on brilliant. It was like, you don't really understand.

And I had a meeting. You know, I was telling you about it before, but this dude was saying, like, I know that you're building these video podcasts, but I can't explain to you how much higher the CPM is for audio. Like people that listen to audio get paid so much more because people find you when clicking on

a video, so taking them back, it's we're weird. I think the I think it's going to turn where people see the value and video more um and certain production studios and distribution do still right now, like revort' is more. I think Focus where they value video a lot. They're getting a podcasts well, well they're they're building it out right now. But the audio right now, man, that's key. I think everybody should have a podcast. I don't think

you can have enough. I just think that the average podcast not even getting that many listens in the first place. What what what what they get is they make people feel like it's over saturated and it's not right. The most industries are not over saturated. Music writing, a book, podcast, every the average person should have those things, right. Number one, it is a way for if you have a business, you should have a podcast. It's a way for people

to hear about your business, throwing commercials in it. I put mom, we started off, I only had commercials for my business in there. Right, you're talking about millions and millions of views. So now fifteen twenty million views later, those are fifteen twenty million people that now know about my products, know about my services. So if without that media, let's say the economy starts to slow down in other areas, I can still use media to help give me a boost.

So if you don't have that, then you don't have power in the space nowhere. You gotta go pay somebody else to try to get the attention. So attention is the one commodity that, regardless of what's going on in the world, it continues to increase in value. Yeah, I mean, so what y'all doing over here? You understand me, y'all gonna always have value. Sex, go always sell. People are always not gonna know what to do in relationship. They

always make horrible decisions. I always need high level conversations like that. A matter of fact, make us what was it high level Pussy. We gotta make that a shirt, start a little network, be the high Level Pussy. But anyway,

promoting our business. Check us out if you want some more episodes about solo on our Patreon dot com back slash Horrible Decisions see me in nineteen keys at my YouTube channel or or in your leisure a High Level Conversations and thank you guys for tuning in to get another episode of Horrible Decision m