Ep 288: Love & Bachata (Ft. LES Chat Podcast)

of Horrible Decisions. I want to give a shout out to my girl Jasmine who told me it was Hispanic carritage month. And we don't you got no Latinos or anybody like Latino community, seriously, and that's the first of all, Beach, we are a ni podcast. But also okay, you're right, and luckily you know Hispanic because you know, ship's normally a full month of something. I was like, we don't have December, how this September fifteen, October fift I mean it's a whole month, but but no, it's but it's

like a fiscal weird fiscal here. Um, it's thanks for us because we it's the black Effect Network. Yeah, we have the leeds Chat podcast in the building. We have to say your name first. Dirara Dia. Yeah, they used to call me that when I was there, I was called a man do like, Yeah, I fucking hate children. Really the kids, no, unless they're mine. I don't want to me that Jojo Jo it's a diarrhean, so it's really Joanna. Yeah, but you guys are we've had a

couple before in the building. We haven't had a lesbian couple year. I don't think you're welcome. We had I had, I interviewed my she was my excellent episode. Every the ones who wanted to see us after that doesn't count those scissors Patreon, We're going to get the no. But yeah, how long y'all been together? Almost three years? What are you gonna do if you break up and you got a podcast? God? Bless oh no, get married? So my god,

is that the card? Chin? Nobody proposed it. I just told you I couldn't afford the podcast alone, let alone? YEA Like now real quick? So when when I when I saw you guys on the schedule, I was like, els pod, But let's can you guys tell me why you left out? The b n um for the podcast name why it's just less pod and clearly y'all if you haven't know, now we're talking a lot of carpet munching, uh this episode. So why what made you guys choose the name and what made you want to be so

sexuality forward with your relationship? Is it because y'all are a couple like I want to get into that the podcast? No? Well, first of all, the being, I just what I does, like tay at this point, it's given women is good, let's be yeah like no women, No, we just it was just a drop it because everything's less beian this, lessbian that. And I feel like we're getting into a generation where it's not about labels anymore. Everyone te of binary no, no, no, okay, now everybody else let's know

she Thank god there was anything else. I was gonna have a real quick they happened to me, and as somebody that I do respect people's prono do you are say they them? I'm gonna probably just try to call you your first name in case I forget. So I went into this pet store um in Silver Lake, which if no one's heard of Silver Lakes, this area in Los Angeles. That's giving Williamsburg. So no, nobody's bitches talking to me like that, and I could call that they

them a beach. So I get to the register and um, honestly, they didn't look androgynous, which is generally when someone's there them, they've got that look. But I get you can be whatever, um what whatever. So I'm leaving. They were helping me with shift fro Nina. I was like, all right, ladies, thank you. On the way out, this girl stops me their works there and goes, oh, they're a non binary And I was like, okay, girl, because I'm just shopping here like you down having on. She's like, no, no,

I just know you come in a lot. I wanted

you to know that they are non binary. I said, okay, girl, like I said, and I made sure to call her girl again and then she like says something else to me, and I'm like, bro, I didn't even say ladies on purpose to the bitch like and then she was like they them and I'm like, so now you're telling me I can't call a vy them person a bitch, because I'm gonna call a bitch whoever the I want to call a bo i didn't say that on the way out in the car that first of all, we should

talk about that, because with pronouns, would you not have felt like that, I'm walking out the store sold the way they tried to cancel me already with pronouns. I'm not just not gonna talk on this matter. So I think that you're pronouns, you should say them obviously if you are in conversation with someone, but you checking me out the door? What just because I said bye ladies? Did I say bye bitches? Now? Dog, I'm tired? Yeah, she just got a gross h there's someone not Mari

Binary listening to this and watching this. She's gonna get And I'm not trying to be Andrew Sheltz here because I would respect your pronouns, but you ain't gonna tell me that she did at the Star Dog. I really feel like now you only use pronouns in certain settings. Get to sick with us. My intent just saying you could call it in a workplace but not a store. Wheezy, I thought you were supposed to be progressing. I'm progressing.

What you want me to do? Turn around with my receive and be like my bad day, my bad y'all. Basically you know what you would say for them and there, yeah, you can't. You gotta make it like you do. You guys have any non binary friends? Actually we don't. You guys Puerto Rican Dominican. I'm Dominican and Puerto Rican. Okay, not from dying because I knowed you well real quick, I'm about to get talking now. You actually look like

one of the hookah girls up in Dykeman. I'm only gonna say this because you're so beautiful, and y'all trying to give me a compliment and it wasn't he Now now I'm gonna like stereotype the funk out of you because you're beautiful. So I was like, you know, you look like you would be a bottle service girl up in Dykeman. You know she got a bottle service fresh giving. No, so they will come up and be like maybe, I'm so sorry because honestly, I taught you did not even

what strawberry we put the blue berries in there. I'm so sorry because I thought you like blueberries. You got a blue shirt on one you like that. Well, let's you know what, you only got no non binary friends? Because I'm done. No, I'm gonna. I don't saying I feel like, you know, black people and Latino people just don't let you have it. But black people be trying. But all of my friends a Dominican in Puerto Rican, they be they'd be off. They don't really catch all

too quick. They'd be like, what are you talking about? Like I gotta be like, imagine your dad's I'm trying to understand that one of you is non binary? What hopping you already? Like the women will hopping body? Why not act not like that? You guys started this podcast. What are the things that you talked about on the show besides so? So we talked about we talked about dating, we talk about friendships, we talked about coming out, we talked about literally everything. And we now we built like

this community where people ask us questions. So we started this new thing called family Meeting where we answer questions and we got crazy asked questions. Like one of them that went viral on TikTok was this couple married for five years um and her wife got pregnant by a man. So she asked us, do you think I should stay with her until the baby is born? And we were like no, like get out of their asap. Speaking of I want to shout out to my friend. There was a caller on her show, and I want to know

y'all thoughts on this. We're not in the homemail portion yet, but she brought this up and I was like, bitch, stop. So there was a lesbian couple that wanted to have a baby the traditional way, so through interstus well through intercourse and through somebody. They knew it was their neighbor, and the neighbor was fucking both of them because both of them could carry, so he was just sucking both of them for about six months. So he wrote in and was like, I have not told them I'm snipped.

And so the conversation was the advice on how he should let them know that he's been sucking this lesbian couple who wants to procreate, but he is not. Look at everyone's face. You would allegedly all turn into a kill on here, but yeah, like fuck, look everyone's face just dropped and I don't even know. I mean, if you snipped, he's not not for doing that. Like they came to him because there was a relationship and he

hadn't let them know that he snipped his balls. And was just sucking both of them and they had the balls. Oh here we go, all right, so let's put it out there. I know people say, no, way, you're really gay, because we always assume that someone that's more feminine got to be by or maybe she's just with you right now. Like my ex used to get hello pissed when people

would do that to us. And I'm curious. But you know, so I'm sure someone said it to you, right, How does it make you feel when men do that and you're around, Like, who when they say they say that to me because they're It's crazy because now I feel like men are getting to the point where they're not even pursuing the feminine women. They pusuing a masculine one because I kind of looked like you on a normal day,

and they still do. They still want to, right, but ID but no I say that because like I feel like, if you guys are together and they would only do it to her, like, what what is your rebuttal when someone's trying to like, let me see you kiss her? Your guys be scared of her? I swear to god. We went to Hawaii and we were at the club and some guy was coming up to me, and I was I have a girlfriend. She's standing there right there, and he was like, oh, my bad, my boy, I

saw you. He was like like you're my bad bro, like y'all y'all beautiful, and I'm like, thank you all right, Like I don't I don't take offense to it because I don't look good and good too. So what happens to you when straight girls are like, oh I can with this type, I'd be ready to go to fight bitches. I swear to God, this why I don't go to lesbian parties. The last one was called copa Cabana and bitches be fighting. They do like they really be fighting. The X was ready to fight when she came to

the Miami show. We had do you do you? Are you guys open to you guys bring women in? Is it just you are y'all monogamous? And what do those conversations look like? It's looking like it's just being her what you guys came on the show. We don't have sex. So I'm not only that you little brought us liquor. I'm drinking because I so how it was like it depends on money, like shots, I got it that's like, oh, we gotta be on vacation and lyddy like with other

paths or y'all want to go. I have miles, Come on, I have miles any more. I mean we're looking for a sugar, not that that's this one. Oh yeah, I don't even say, because it's true. She's on the nut, you know what, that's what we make money for, bro not to I'm not tricking it. Ain't trick it if you got it. For one, I really don't think spending my money on like not even I'm companionship, right because like I'm gonna get pussy your dick anyway, you know

what I'm saying. But like I do like treating people to ship. That would you do that for a man? I don't do it for anybody, not more women I've dated though, because I kind of like the courting of women, even when it's myself, right, like when men courted me. But like I like like splurging on men for things, but like generally with women. Like so when threesomes, you guys have never had one, so you feel like you've got to be on vacation. Do you guys have a type?

Have you guys? I thought about you know. What's funny, we don't and we both dated like different type of women, like stud she's dated, So it really depends on the person. It's interesting that was a issue with my ex, Like we didn't seem to have the same type. So when we would go to sex clus when we go out, the woman that he would look at was never the woman I was looking at, and vice versa, and so I was just like, you go have your phone on man, my fine, and well, um, but you guys clearly are

into that. So have you guys discussed then what you like, what you like and how that could come together? Now? Why why why like here? Because that way, I think it's mostly because we're still kind of fresh, and I think that coming from the situations we came from and the experience that we had in the past, that we're like trying to move intentionally together in the right ways. So we don't like, you know, that's so beautiful violent

strings in here. That was still beautiful, But it's true though, Like Mandy and I, Um, we're talking in the episodes next week where we talked about our growth, and one of the things I said was that I don't think like I can have a threesome again until I'm really comfortable with somebody, like and obviously you're comfortable in two years, but like really like this is it because that ship has so many other dynamics And honestly, women are just like a lot, and I've never had a threesome with

all women. But what I do know is sometimes the male energy can help a little bit, Like there's like this dominance thing of okay, well like who's like but sometimes this is like bites. For example, I one of your clips, there's a lot of domestic violence and gay relationships, and it's because we look at someone like, oh, you're a girl, I'm a guy. Whatever. But I do think sometimes it's harder to be more assertive with women. Do you find that in your relationship? Absolutely? I'm like, oh, baby,

what's your last fight? About our last fight? God tell him, bab that was giving baby. He's talking about the only talked about in the best movie is that when it was I don't know, she threw water in my face. What's not loving hip hop? We're loving but cho let's go that's a um. We went to this poppy tour. I don't know if you guys ever heard of it. Yeah, it's no, no, no, it's basically like a party just for girls. Sorry poppy or something like poppy juice. No,

it's no, no, it's close to that. But it's a gay party. No, it was actually just an all them. It's not even just a gay women's just all the general party. No men. And at the time they were doing the tour and it's like a more like Hispanic like a bunch of Hispanic females days and ship. But they played in Philly. We got tickets, we went, and

it was a funch your bitches. There a lot of stras, but I think that that was like the you know, the insecurity right there was like straight bitches because in reality, females, I hate to say it, but at least this generation, a lot of females don't have respects. I don't know if you can't say females, don't you said women, just

like you said tell them women, females whatever. Okay, you said, they don't have respect for who, like, in a sense of period of relationship, who you talk to, who you win? You don't know. We talked about that dreaming yeah yeah, yeah, but but but you're cool, someone be respectful and not super fled with her, but you I felt both for y'all, but like I'm gonna be respectful and not like you know, but you got some bitches that would be like I don't want to both y'all want to you wait in

your face. Someone has said that they haven't said it, but there were actually this chicken and shea no, no, Jaica. There was something in Jamaica. Okay, So in Jamaica we actually happened there. It was like all of Jersey there for some random reason and they were we met another That's right, all of the Jersey was there and this

this group was with us. We were getting lit and I guess they met this girl and this one guy who just got there at the end of our week and was like, Yeah, there's other people from Jersey here. They lit. It's fun. You gotta find them. We're in the pool when I hear this girl and the dude walking around. Yeah, we got funnies. Other Jersey people did. We ended up at the lobby bar and she was happy to be behind me talking about something. Yeah, we

got funnies other Jersey girls. And I turn around, like, that's were you looking for us for? Just like oh, I heard y'all lit. The entire time we hung out, she was like looking at me, giving me the eyes like she was not my time? Yeah, what's up? Like? And I'm like, you could be fun up on vacation. Absolutely not, absolutely not. She didn't give an She was literally like she would be right here, her sister was right here, me and a girl and the girl's like,

what's good? Like in front of in front of you, in front of her, in front of her. How do you how do you check people? Because like my friend has told me how she's checked men, how do you check women that cross boundaries? Because because they don't think

they crossed them? Women do not think they boundaries, which is actually what we've talked about even going on tour, right, Like there's violations that come from men, but like when we would be on tour, bitches are grabbing, titties are asked and like touching us in ways that men could never but women don't feel like it's abountary work where they said they think that the women me two eras coming and I wanted to know, then, how do you

check a woman who was violating as a woman. I feel like initially it's hard because we automatically assume like as women, we have that that right, because it's just like, oh, you're a girl, you got what I got, and that's kind of like the bond, right, And then I guess it's different, especially as a more master then person and individual for her being a fan, she's gonna be like, nah, that bit's trying you and I'm not working with it.

And to me, at least, my mentors like, well, I'm still I'm still a bit too like im, but I'm not thinking about it. And it's as so she trying to kick it to me, and that's shawty really trying to kick it to me like she bust it moves um, which by that time it's already too late. But I just but I feel like when you have a girlfriend that looks as popping as she does, you gotta be okay with people just not feeling as women. Like in my relationship with my ex boyfriend, I sometimes would enjoy

that attention with him. Right for my ex girlfriend, I had to do a lot more reassuring also, like maybe she was maybe crazier than he was, but it was that because she was a woman, Like I don't know, but oh yeah, like our first time having sex over years. Because if anyone remembers I dated Scissors when I was like two, we were sucking all the time. I came back. I had horrible decisions by then. For Thanksgiving flirty with one bitch in the club. She was like, you're gonna

do that ship in my face? Bitch, are you crazy? And we were in the bathroom when it was over. Then then we got back to the other took that pussy right back after us City Walk night. But that ship, I do think it's something that you have to manage, right, Like how do you guys communicate when you're going out together to all women events, Like when something's making you uncomfortable, but you want to ruin the night. See, that's the thing. So when we went to Poppy Tour, right, yeah, I

was having a lot of drinks, shot strengths whatever. There was a lot of straight girls, and girls knew that she's gay because you know, you look more more masculine, just like right now, you look more gay? Could I be a wrong with you? Even when you said masculine? We just had on jade? Right, yeah, you actually the yeah wait wait wait wait here we go, here we go. So Sam is in feminine she dress. That's science. Technology is something that and science sience. I know what you're

talking about, electromagnetics. I don't know, but anyway, math is the last so right, So she's saying she gets hit on by women more okay because she looks gay. So that night I was like, girl, So I was like, I feel like you're not communicating with me because she kept like leaving. She was like going to the bar. She was like going to the bathroom. I was like, are you really going to the bar in the bathroom.

So we got into like this huge argument in the bathroom and I threw my water at her because I was so pissed. He thought I was out here scoring bitches. But that was only because there was some chick actually like that. Eventually came up some girls trying to trying to get her Jojo and some other girl to make out. Oh I don't remember that. I don't somebody else remember somebody? Baby. I was working. I was actually more sober than they were, and when I was dipping, I wasn't like leaving. I

was going to get them water. So I'm like, you know, it's why you came because it's a gentleman. No, it was like that gentleman made me to be like, babe, you and your sister me water, I got you stay here, hold our spot. I'm gonna get water. And she's like, where the funk you at? And I'm like, I'm getting y'all water. Y'all live like listen. But you know what was the most embarrassing part. We had listeners there and they saw it. He was hanging out with Well, y'all

haven't had threesome. But would y'all be into because we loves sucking fans, would you guys love it? Girls like, let me click on this bit page rightly? But I mean I was surprised when you answered um ur DM. I was like, people do, responded, I will tell y'all why I responded. I would. I look for guests sometimes many, and I are going to requite a few episodes and to me, when the clips are good, I do. I

do like other podcasters. I enjoy other podcasters because they know how to talk right, Like I've got a vanilla ship to get to but we're flowing, and I think, um, other podcasters can bring something out of you. And obviously I want to highlight other podcasters, that's what we should be doing. But particularly with your clips, I felt like you were getting to a point. And sometimes there's a lot of mindless podcasting ship. But I was like, Okay, we can ask you questions and you'll get to it.

Because I don't want to hear about a podcast. It's like everything I want to hear about everything. I'll listen to the Breakfast Club. Anyway, let's get I have another question, particularly about stud fem ship. Right, so people don't want I feel like to believe that maybe the women they're attracted to when they're stud or stud fem semps men or has been attracted to men. Do you ever find yourself because you said I was being a gentleman when you're around men getting more girly or do you turn

into one of the bros? I feel like it depends who I'm around. Most times I'm I'm bromfucker's but they're sometimes when I'm like, I'm still a girl. Do you want to get her shots? Oh? Yeah, and we out I'm getting my free shots. That's what I love about. Yeah, that's I see that. Do you guys ever use how hot you are as like a gay lesbian coupled to get you, saying that it's going to move everyone to the YouTube, like let me go see what these let me go, let me tell they are. If y'all are

listening auto audio only, please go over to Horrible. When that, I would do that, like we went to the club and beaus at a table like that. Last time we went to Atlantic City, we met like this big group of guys and they had their own section. I was like, let's get in there, and we got I was actually surprised, as like, let's get in here, like know we're gonna get drinks. I know, I'm thinking cute. I know you're looking cute. Why did she turned into one of the bros? Yeah?

I did. I had it that because they were like probably saying no, they were trying to go to strip up after and I was, but we didn't get to go. The crazy part is I didn't even have to do that though, because like the fit that I was wearing, it was like, oh, once they knew like she was my girlfriend, it was like, ye ain't even gonna try you, like you fly a lesbian that they would, but also you're gonna but also if they get you drunk enough, do you feel like men being around you'll have also

maybe been like, oh, I'm gonna get both of them. No, I don't say that I have either of you ever stopped with the man? Yes, both of y'all. Y'all don't miss the day. Well, I consider myself bisexual, so we gotta get it too. That not the side, bitch. Oh, we're gonna get into this. Ask that because penetrative sex. Is that enough for you? Or do you sometimes? Actually

see that's the thing. I'm not blessed like Mandy, Like I did not penetration, But when you said your bisexual, I wondered, like if that was something that men were giving you that you enjoyed. So no penetrated sex. No, how do you guys normally have sex? Well, damn, I'll put my mouth on it. Did take my time and slow kiss a little bit, start up the engine and use a couple of fingers, startup, so like it's orally

your main and favorite form of sex. Yeah, we actually don't even have a strap m And you know what I do. And I didn't want to jump. I hate jumping in the outline. But you being bisexual, you being a stem, I would say, then I've had a huge issue with talking to women because they don't want to date someone bisexual. Was that something once you realize I like women, I don't want to go back to men.

You identified you did not identify yourself as bisexual, So was it well, was the thought process of being with someone bisexual? And do you ever feel inadequate, like you're not giving her everything she wants with her specifically, No, Okay, maybe because she always guy shaming or whatever. She's like, I'm not here from she do. But even that, like I think, for me, I don't. I guess in a sense, I adn't give a funk because also we're in a

generation where everybody's bisexual. They were a little bit both. That's cool. Everybody's a little fluid nowadays. But I feel like, I mean, in our reality, most gate it's just with straight girls. So it's like we're accepting the straight girls and we always want to hit the turnout, which half the time when you turn it out with showty, this is showty that was already curious and straight woman they do it. One of our we talked about the time

you guys do the same thing. He loves because he knows it takes song, he's like, and he'll call me and he's more excited to tell me a story about that than fucking dude. Right, he'd be like, and then he was wrapping on his dick and then he wanted to taste mine and he had to stop when his wife was in the room. Man, So do you feel like there's a big deal culture with women too? As much as we like when we refer to download, it's mostly associated to men, right, is there a deal culture

with women too? Yeah? It's all the best friends, I think, Like, you know, friends, they don't get late, and then they want to be like, yo, tag me in, Like I want to know what that's like. Yeah, when they heart sex and straight women, both of you. What did you find that The most annoying thing about it is I'm not here to teach them same same. But I feel like for her, like she's had enough of like dealing with guys and having to tell them how it is

or whatever. Because she's a very assertive individual, very asserted. She's giving masking honestly, Like I look more fun, but I feel like I'm more masks her personality. She has more dominance. But that's always how it is with niggas when you're dating your man, they'd be like, all right, babe, you know, like so I do want to get back real quick to the sex with men. Maybe a threesome will happen in your future. Do you think that a man would be easier? Because what do you think it

would be easier? Like you, how would you like? Would you want to have sex with the dude? I think it would depend he gotta be popping. Okay, what's your man's respectful? Why you can be asking? And what a man type is while they see like a sex podcast? Why did Yeah? I just think that I put on accent. You do acting every episode? Okay, go because one of my icebreakers was celebrity man. If you guys had to pick one for the three cents, well, she said it,

it probably will be Chris Brown. Really, I mean he's gonna smet me. Yeah, you know, look like him, but not act like him. No, no, don't do that. Not popping. She wants rose a little tiny as I want skeptic for real. Really, well, you're not white enough. He was just with a dolt. You're not giving a deal. He was also a name the Campbell God bless. I don't know he doesn't have a type the list. Okay, okay, so Chris Brown for the both of you and interesting Okay,

well I know I am not gonna lie. It's been the longest intro of horrible decisions history, right, you know the cinnamon love was given the game that we just yeah, we didn't. We didn't do that line. So we sorrow. This is that, you know when when we does that outline, we have no outline. That's for me, flood he is. At the same time speaking of you know, I wish that was so y'all only get the fun twice a month, like two weeks out of a month, because yes, that sucks.

Do you hear it sucks? No? I know you do. Not heard telling you about yourself, what your body, especially your bloody You both don't like it or what if you want? So we don't. But I'm not scared, which I don't know if y'all know, But I'm not scared to go grab my little rosie and get to it. Yeah, I think a little Roseby. I don't want to see the string hanging out. I'm good on all that. I mean, I'm not gonna see the string. Listen, I don't see today.

I think it's different to you just ignore it then, But you know what, most of the only little it. So it makes complete sense that out of know where you don't feel we you fucking when you're horny and you're feeling it, you're just gonna let it rip. At that point, they already they already pushed the boundary. They're already like getting you in that mood you like fuck it? Are any of y'all? Um? Are? Are either of y'all God's chosen? Like myself? You have a three day period? Actually,

just found out I have endometriosis. Say, wow, what's your birthday? I'm a very good We're both okay. First off, endometriosis has nothing to do with what's your birthday? Oh? My birthday is tomorrow? Actually, um, but wait, so in finding that out, I know that endometriosis can also lead to

sometimes in fertility, heavy blood flow cramping. What does how do you show for her in a moment of say a bad month or where it's coming you know where it affects literally your behavior, it affects your whole body. Have you shown up for her in those moments? And

are you like not accepting of it? But you know, um, well, for her, it's like a hit or miss because I know for something that like in the beginning she was taking birth control to like kind of yeah, um, so I didn't get to see it a lot of the time, like I said, was bouncing her at some point. But recently it's actually been like really bad. So I've experienced it in past relations and I know that's it's not fun.

It's not so I just when I am home at least, I'm like, what you need come home with the yeah, yeah, the ice packscause she gets that. I mean there's there's ice packs, there's hot packs, there's the massaging of just your lobe like my friend like would ask just because the migraines come. And it's also just the Crimpson. So I love that. You're like, what helps cuddling? He is there's a cuddle therapist that gets paid hundred dollars and be held no sex, no um, basically to sleep over

and let you cuddle them. So a cuddle therapist is speaking out about this unusual occupation. Her name is Missy, she's forty three. She looked real good, though, he says. Hugging heals the body, mind, and spirit. And she never has sex with clients. She doesn't even call herself a sex worker. She's never had clients attempt to do anything like that. She makes both male and female customers sign

an agreement before the healing can begin. As part of the agreement, genitals and breasts are to be covered at all times and there are strict limits for touch there. They are often touching. Sorry, So basically, um, she was a fashion ballogger who was working at a cuddle therapist for a short amount of time, and they have experienced erections while there's an embracement because there's an ever an issue, and she doesn't believe there's something sexual about it. She said,

people get aroused and embarrassed, but it's only natural. She knows that men are often the ones that need this service because they can be overlooked when it comes to mental health support, claiming that a lack of touch exacerbates loneliness and can cause um over eating, self destructive habits, smoking, nail biting, which I thought was funny to say, but she said not needs. We're having weird ass fingers. They'd

be biting in nails. You got nubs all the motherfucker. Yeah, maybe putting clear polish on the nubs, especially when I yeah, man, hands be not you remember that lady? This said to Benny when we were out getting our nails, and she goes, you want to do clear color because you man, that's okay anyway, Sorry. So she had a female customer that needed a mommy cuddle and basically, um, she said, she called me after her boyfriend of two years walked out

on her. She had no friends and family in their Yeah, I went straight to her. She said. Her skills are that of a masseuse. I worked like a massage therapist, where basically the skin is the biggest organ and the gateway to our emotional capacity. Some people hate the idea of being touched, but we're programmed to need it. So for those who can't afford it, she'll offer cheaper packages seventy dollars for a cuddle for one hour, two hours

but overnight. But the one with the mommy issues is interesting because I don't think I ever like I think that she was like, that's the big spoon. Yeah, but I've never even felt the need to be boned or cuddled or coddled by my mom, especially when you call your mom for advice, But as an adult, that hasn't been an intimacy that I've craved. You know what I mean. You're telling me you've never called your mom to like

I call my mom. Having a conversation with my mom is different than being cuddled and cuddled by my mother figure like, so for someone to coddle or be cuddled by a woman in search of a mother thing like I understand daddy issues mommy issues in the way of intimacy. I've never seeked my mom for intimacy. And maybe maybe that you don't have daddy issues for intimacy either, But oh, but now I love intimacy. I've never hugged my dad.

I never had, but now now, and that's probably why I was with men the way I was in my twenties. But now that's all I want is intimacy with men. But I've never wanted to be cuddled or cuddled by my mother. I've never want to be cuddled by my dad either. But I feel like the mom everyone knows, like maybe your mom's are like a grandma thing, like I can never love that my grandma never want to cuddle one. I never want my grandma wat to be

a big spoon bitch. I think that the cuddle word is like, I think it's just such a nurse like nursing from a women's standpoint. No, I'm sorry, We're gonna hug and be God, where's physical touch on your lovelan? Physical touches? Actually, I've realized super super high. I would say maybe number two. Um. Number one for me is for short acts of service, active service, physical time, then quality time, quality time number three five that you service

each other's um love languages. I tried my best with her. I feel like it's it's a lot more easier for me because you like quality time. What is hers that you feel like it's a little bit harder for you to accommodate her. That's her number one. And I feel like for me, when I'm doing my best to try and give her those acts of service, it's like never enough because she's the type of person who's like on go at all times. I got this, I gotta do that.

Like everything happens within that twenty four hour you know period, and I'm like, girl, one day at a but real quick, go ahead, something that she does amazing in your relationship. Here we go. UM. I would say quality time, I feel like we we we we go above and beyond when it comes to like going on dates and like making sure that we have those date nights. That's good.

Like right after this we're going on a date, so like I feel like we do well with that when I'm saying it is, which I guess for me, it was never access service until like we got together, just like I was never affectionate before I got with her, and now I'm like, I feel like I'm overly affectionate. Like people used to always have to tell me about myself, like, oh, you're not affectionate enough, You're not embraceful enough. Does any of that have to do with coming out and ship? Um? Nah? Nah?

I actually wanted to ask you another question, um, because it's been something that recently I've dealt with. You said, you you show up in what you believe is access Service, but you don't feel like it's enough. Do you think that's an internal thing that maybe she will like even if she says it's enough. Do you feel like you're just innately not doing enough? Or is there are a time that you could say exactly what you're doing is enough?

And I need you to know that it's enough because this is a new love language for you to show up with her. And this was an issue with my with my ex, where I'm like, exactly what you're doing is makes me happy, but he never felt like he was enough. Is that something at all that you guys talk about where you feel like you know what she wants and you still don't feel like you're showing up. For the most part, yeah, I feel like you know

she I know she does these things every day. Let me pick up the slag so she doesn't have to do it. And then sometimes I just think like a right, like, even if I do those things, she's about to find a whole new thing to get into, and I'm just like, can you just really a couple of therapy at all? It's her? I do think that because for the most part, I feel like, which I told you a man, girl, you're my ex bitch, because I told her all the time. I'm like, yo, i feel like I'm dating the person

that I was for everybody else. So again, like I said, a lot of people will say you're not embraceful enough, you're not present enough, you're not affection off, and I'm like, yo, I'm sucking here. What more do you want? Um? And now that I'm with her where I'm like actually more intentional and I want to be here and I do like want this. I feel like now I'm I'm the other like people that I dealt with where I'm like

like I'm here, Hey, I'm here, but you're not. I don't Everything that you do is more than Yeah, but you know the ship like speaking of more than enough, I'm assuming she makes you come tell us a horrid Let's go opposite. You talk about something she does, get in bed and you tell us the same. So let's start with you. Um, I like when she eats me out and then fingers me at the same time, what do you do with your fingers? Specifically? It's yeah, so for they can see you on YouTube, just you can.

I'm not trying to give you all the juice, how girl. But for the most part, it's like it's a little bit of in and out. But I get to that in and out motion like that come here, come here

with me, and that ship that works for her. Don't get no fucking ideas, but that ship it works so and that you know, I like to give a little mouth to mouth at the same time, you know, it's it's nice the extra the penetration and and a little I read of me And recently they said if they kiss, kiss the thighs, and kiss the pussy slow, you know the head is about to be good. I actually agree with that. To me, to the head is even better when you come up and kiss me in my actual

mouth after you kiss my other lips. But then also like now we're connecting to where I know how I smell, how I taste, and now I just enjoyed that with you, Like that's if you're gonna eat my pussy, you gotta kiss me right after. And I stuck your dick, I gotta kiss you right after. And if you don't want me to kiss you after I suck your dick, your dick is not it? Right? That's it. That's also weird when they do that, but that has ship, like I deal with them childish has niggas on. Okay, now you

tell us all right. I don't want to say surprisingly enough, but I guess it's always shade on feminine women is that they don't give good head. And by the grace of God, this woman gives good head because I feel like when you fun with feminine females. Now they're changing, they're stepping up. They're like, yo, I want parts too, But at least like when I started, it was like

pillow princesses. You know, especially with straight women. You know, you're fucking women who never fucked with women, and they don't want to. They just want to receive. Correct A friend that recently told me she was a Hello princess and I couldn't even believe she admitted it. I was like, that's okay. So she was like and she was like, I must have good pussy because like they'd be coming back. But I don't do ship. You just get wow, like

but to know that, you know, you're like that. Now she got a fat ass and big cities, so like maybe that's where it's just like fun, we're gonna anyway, but yeah, she just flat out It was like, I just I can't say I'm a blazingly But then let me ask you, Joejoe, what makes good head? So I guess from me, I can't speak for all my STEMI steady bitches, but it's definitely you know the clip play. A lot of people don't know that, and I feel like,

in a sense as females, especially more feminine females. We like that is because we don't know, like you don't do it, but it's like, do how you would want it done. That's the only way I feel like you can. You can really start if you like it this way. It's either gonna work for her or it's not. She's gonna tell you it's not, but that's your starting point. I don't even know how I fucking did it when I started, But you don't know how you started eating.

I don't know. I don't either. I watched a lot of L Word at the time, like the original what is this? It's it's giving life maybe with two men? So life L is in life? Yes, life literally words are you serious, man, Stock? There's no way you never Johansen and the L Word on Showtime, the show about lesbian First off, I just got money. Showtime is a prey channel. It was the same channel that Zane was on. You know, no, Zane was on Oxygen. That was a free cable network channel. It was on Oxygen on pay

for that channel. Don't know what was literally like as a hell of famous show. And what's interesting about that is um one of the people I worked with used to work on the show, and she was like all of the writers like a lot of the experiences were meant. So when the new gen L Word came out on Amazon recently, it felt more lesbian. Oh yeah, is it

fictional or documentary? It's giving gay sex in the city in a way out of it is l a base which there's how gay they're making avocado tills for each other. How basically like you learned about Turkey based ship. One of my favorite scenes in The L Word was there was a couple of black and white couple um where they wanted to have a kid and they were trying to find a sperm donor and she's like, oh my god, babe. The black girl comes home to the white girl. She's

like I found the perfect guy. Like he's an artist, Like I found him. He's amazing, Like he's going to come over and drive you to sperm bait. She was like yes. She opens the door and he's black and she was like what the fuck because she didn't she wanted to buy racial baby then, so she was like, why don't we talk about this? And the guy was like she looks as she was like, I'm hoping Beth told you I was black, but no, it was a

really good scene. And um, in the new show you get to see like the kid grown up and she's like that. But a lot of that how to do with coming out. There was a character that was very ashamed of being gay and I but you know, before we wrap, I think we've definitely got to do our due diligence and knowing your families. Do they like each other, hate each other, hate you being gay? What is it? R? Let's be inn is actually been very lucky for the

most part, Like my parents don't have an issue with it. Um, I just took a very long time to tell my mom. So I told my like I started knowing by like eighth grade year, and then by freshman year, I was like, all right, let me test this theory. And at that point, talking to bitches, I was like, all right, like, y'all do this. Like I was on a basketball team at that too, so yeah, yeah, I'm around all girls at the time, so if you're giving me play, I'm taking it.

And at the time I was obsessed with this one girl, which it didn't work, so that was a waste. But I was like, damn that freshman year I told my dad, I told my brothers. I didn't give fun because at the end of the day, for for my relationship with them, it didn't matter, like you either love me or you don't, I don't care. My mom was the main person, and I honestly didn't officially tell my mom until I started dating her. I'm twenty eight. I started dating you when

I was twenty seventh. That did she tell her? So did? She said? I knew, she always knew. And other than the fact that like I knew, she had her suspicions, not even I had a lot of gay friends too. So my brother went out, me to her, my brother, her sister's and like, I'm really close to her siblings because her siblings are like around our age. So these motherucker's already knew. Did you ever consider having like a beard? Every thing about bringing home and just be like I did?

But you had a beard Thanksgiving? Weird? Like Christmas beard? What happened? Did they believe you'll talk? This was right before actually before I started dating her. Oh so when I my mom never knew. Out of high school, I dated some some girl. I dated her for like four years.

We broke up, she broke out me whatever it happened, and then I was like fuck it, like I'm about to do whatever the funk I want because at the time I felt like I was very um like coddled, like I wasn't out here yet, I wasn't doing nothing. I had no other sexual experiences other than when that relationship. So I got tired of the whole like being in this box for this person that dubbed me anyway, So I was like fuck it, like I'm about to be

out here. And I ended up fucking with guys. Well I only fucked with two, and I was like, in a way, I guess for me because they know you were gay. Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Love that ship. No, guys love that ship. They like adore that ship. They're like, oh, like you you were masking, like like they don't want feminine shorty no more. But I would tell him the first dude, I was like, yeah, I never sucked with a dude, and I don't really care how this go.

I just think you pop, and that is what it is. I did with the first guy for ships and giggles, and I think that was out of the idea of like I wanted that sexual power because I feel like guys think that they're in control and like when it comes to sex and it's like, nah, like you funk cause I let you fuck? Right. Yeah, I really didn't have to let that happen. And I think I was in the state in a curious stage too, where it was like we talk show these all the time, don't

knock ittill you try it. So I was like, you know, let me try it. And I didn't. I was like, all right, I don't hate the second. Um it was better. It was better. I hate to say that, But I also think that I dealt with him longer was because of the connection that we had. He was giving me more feminine energy, and I think that I touched to that because I'm used to the way, um, just his personality is that what he was giving he's being less

dismissive and more attentive. And he actually happened to be the person that was like you're not embraceful enough, Like you're not you're not here, And I was like, do you want, like I want to smell some I mean I'm not gonna like that's even like been my dilemma, Like I really like enjoy being with women intimately and sexually,

But relationship wise, I'm good. It's too much like literally, even with dating certain guys, even like I've been talking to my hunger like bitch I'm dating a bitch is emotional, and like I realized how much like I'm someone that can't be there on an empathetic level. And women require

a lot of emotions. And so even when I deal with a man who is emotional, I, as a woman, don't how to deal with that because again, where used to mend being more dismissive, not eating as much attention, And so for how you have to show up for a woman, I don't think I even had the capacity to do. Like, sexually, we get fun. You could go at home girl and I eat you puts in and girl going your way up. Fun, But the emotional needs

of women it's very hard to come by. And literally, every time I deal with a woman and it gets a little serious, I hit up my homeboys like, oh y'all got it hard. That's how New York coming out story. So growing up, my mom was not with the ships. My mom's Dominican, okay, and I remember she found a picture of my older sister kissing her friend and she kicked my sister out, not on the on the camera, they had to be she saw it. She kicked my sister out and then after that I was like, oh yeah,

she was scared with that. So I didn't come out until later in life. So I came out when I started dating her. And it's funny because when I came out, I was like, I'm gay and I'm actually moving in with her, So it was all I wanted. I told her. I told them all I want and we're dating for like what six months? I think it was eight at

the time. That's fast, right, Yeah, But that's the great part is I never moved that fast until I started dating her because she she looked like a Dyakmond bottle server. I got my Spanish girl. And you guys are doing family functions now, like but now my family is like totally cool with it. Y'all hold hands and kiss from the family. But remember funeral. My my mom was super chill.

But like, for some reason at the funeral, my ex was showing me a lot of love, right, and I remember like she leaned over and do mean my mom looked at me like, you don't be gay, right, not here? You know my grandma. You know, I always say like a reason that it was. I think grieving her was easier because when she's old, we celebrate someone who's lived a long life. But who she really know? Who I was? I remember her watching us. Okay, are you doing? See

you again? Just this is it before you guys came out. And this is just because I want to bring this all the way back to really our childhood. Did y'all ever play house with your homegirls or or teacher and student or anything that was really toxic now that we look back at it, but did you ever like dry hump your friends early on? I just know that that was an experience with me, like anytime I played the house, I was dry humping my homegirls early early, early on.

Was that an experience that y'all had? Did that come later in life? It was? And I was always bad that she was always that not you, not you day I was. I was that's how you know, right like daddy. But but now I know that everybody's listening and probably like running to see what you look like. But um, I want you to tell people where to find you and also let them know what they expect in future

episodes Good Girl. So our podcast it's called Last Chap Podcast. UM, it's everywhere on all platforms, and we talk about everything. We'll talk about everything gave related, so even when it comes to st d s and t D ask about literally everything. So, but what is that conversation, especially with

her being bisexual? But when you guys first met we talked about how often lesbians don't go into thinking that there's STD because I don't know, for whatever reason, the homosexual conversations that we've had on this pod std UM testing and questions only arise during heterosexual relationships. It's never even a thought as much, especially with women on women interactions. What what are those conversations normally like, not only together

but in your past. So it's funny because when we met, um, it was in twenty so right like after the pandemic, Like restaurants were still like open but not too many people, like limited seating clubs were closed. UM. So I was on my whole ship and I started dating this guy right girl with my luck. We had sex and the guy gave me HPV. Then I met her like two weeks later, and I was like so scared to tell her. I was like we were. We were already talking for

like two weeks, and then she came over. She drove an hour and a half and I was like, I'm gonna make her drive. I don't know how she's wait that wait wait, because you couldn't do anything at the time. Were you on medication because the thing with HPV is that you can't It doesn't go away like it goes away like one to one two years um. But I didn't have any symptoms. You could either have warts or like no symptoms. So I was like, how the funk I'm gonna tell this girl that I just met that

I have HPV. She's gonna be like, what the funk is that? And I was a saying to that head chap peet viv, I just like that at the end of everything. So we were laying in bed and I was like, oh my, I gotta tell her. So I was, I gonna tell you something, mind you hold on. It took us. We didn't have text for like three weeks because of being a gentleman. Come on, gentlemen, I don't want to be a boy. I actually like her, like

I don't want pushing on limits. I'm gonna let her call the ship all right, cool three weeks and I was like I can't wait. Yeah, and she trying to make seem like it was me girl, No, yeah, it was you. Yeah. So I was not gonna tell you something. Um and then I told her. She was like super cool with it. I love that. I'm just like I enjoyed the HPV pussy too. I think I'm not gonna looking at me. No, no, no, But you know what it is that it's probably because we know. I think

it's something like women have it. So it's a scary conversation to happen, but it's almost like having it just one hvs whatever, like her place, two is on your mount, one is in your in your plus. Okay, so I'll take one of the other. I'll take the one that I'll take the cold. But but no, I mean I think that women are also more understanding, right, Like I'm

sure you didn't be like, oh you dirt. You know what I'm saying that, So we we have any when it comes to even a smell or b V, Like me and my homegirls talk about it all the time, like DV is a thing, like and my home girls will be like, bitch, what our bork acid. This is what you take like, we understand that our body is so much more complex than men that we have. We just have and in the one understanding of that, you

know what I mean in terms. So let's shot podcast y'all are available everywhere, also YouTube, so they could see all episodes on Monday's bitch, don't try to compete with us. Well, y'all just took our weekend, so we might not even have one this Monday. We oh we don't care podcast on Patreon. Check us out where we gave all the updated see what happened last night, what happened the other day? And um, yeah, thanks for watching. That's right, thank you

for tuning into Yeah, another episode of horrid blad Decision. Yeah, thank you so much. Let's check podcast and check them out. Um yeah, so who knows, maybe I'll meet a hot Spotify exactly. Now. That's honestly the only reason I kind of like go into events, because I'd just be like, who am I gonna meet? Because I realized, and I'm gonna say this before we get to vanish, because we know it's a good one. I'd be fucking with a

lot of niggas that aren't necessarily well to do. And we had this conversation altogether after the link up, huh, we all want to eat And I was talking about how I feel i'd really be bro niggas and Bent was like, I think that's because you just like feel like you don't have time for niggas of money because they're so used to bitch is working hard for them, right, And he didn't. He didn't get Kevin Samuel's on me

at all. He was like, but it's not like you don't want dudes to take care of ship for you. He's like, so, why do you think it's attractive on the other side, And I said, I think that I'm low key attracted to guys that aren't necessarily the castanova of the crew because they're not scared to show how

much they like me. Like sometimes when like rich dudes are athletes, you know what I'm saying, Like, I'm not saying they don't you trying to haul at me, but like we I mean, we had this conversation literally just they don't. They really don't. But you said you wanted an industry because because you thought it would be easier for an industry dude than a regularly so now it's the opposite. No, no, no, no, no, I still do.

But I'm saying He's like, why do you think you've been like having these run ins with like you know, think about hospital dick or the skater dude or whatever. He's like, why do you think this is happening? And I said, I don't think industry dudes for rich Nigga's necessarily be the ones that give me the same energy. Like I like guys that like me. You know what I'm saying, Like if I when when someone's giving me that energy, I'm like, yeah, I'm waiting, and sometimes they

got rich. Nick has got too many options to where like Brianda said something to me that I really liked. She's been dating a lot, and she said, if I go on, if I have a date schedule to someone and they don't seem excited about the date or text me that day or screenshot the reservation, I cancel. She's like, I'm not really into someone that's gonna hit me up right before, like I want someone that's on it. And she was like, because that's the energy that I'm actually

interested in investing in. And I was like, I feel that that's a little dramatic, but I know what she's saying with that, because we all want someone that feels excited to see us and feels like they're lucky to be taking us out somewhere. But I got it. I do, especially if I say yes to going out with you. It's it's strange, maybe be just because I have, Like I actually really hate my phone, so I like when it's literally just a hey, where you at I'm gonna

pull up on you? Or Hey, what you're doing? Do you want to pull up on me? I realized that I hate texting. I don't want to get a text me on it because I don't respond. No, I like, I like planned, and you I'm surprised you don't. You don't like planned because you're a plan I mean, I know I like a plan date. But like, like I've literally been like and I've realized it's more like that.

When I see I have free time, I'd be like, well, let's do lunch, like I've done that with like Jesus, Like should I just finished recording and I'm stressed, and he'll be like, we'll pull up. I'm at Dumbo House, We'll eat here. That's that's that's our first date. You're talking about something different, But no, I'm just saying I don't need the texting. I don't need the Hey, it's so excited to see you a reservation, like I know

what's happening. I'm I realized how much of a non responder I am in text messages now because I really just hate my phone. I mean, if I'm dating some you're dating black jeesus already, so you guys can find talking to see each other. You don't like when men send you reservations? Seriously, No, No, I didn't say that. I'm talking about the texting screenshoting me and like the texting, I realized I am not into whatsoever, like all FaceTime you or we can link up to talk. I realized

how minimal I am. Yeah, I don't need it. I don't need a lot of threat. I'm talking about someone showing that they're like, I don't know. I I agree if i'm if I have a date with someone Friday. Actually I did have a date last week. I went to the Short Stories Hotel or two weeks ago. The dude our date was at five around twelve. He's like, hey, Gila, looking forward. Um, I'll be there five where You Star?

Are We Still Good? And I was like, oh, well, I like this, Okay, Like I I do appreciate that, not on some like corporate worky ship, but I do think sometimes it's nice to feel like you know, you're you remembered me or I'm I'm not an afterthought. I am um Okay. I want to talk about something real quick that I didn't put in the outline, but I just found this on the Shade Room and I could not believe this bitch. Did you see the Erica Banks clip of her saying what she wants people to look

like that go out with her? Now? Erica Bank is the girl that's a rapper that you know what I'm saying for everybody else, is you look