Ep 263: Madonna-Whore Complex (Ft. Around the Way Curls Podcast)

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I guess what decision we're about to make a horrible decisions. Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Horrible Blade. This is Young We beck at it again. It's your girl. Maybebe a k A full pumps, a K staying a K. I might snatch your nigga up and his daddy you not his father. Listen the way I'm like back with like, oh okay, he could be like twenty four and then his daddy like forty five. Give you know what I mean? I might just need both um and we are joined

today Horrible We're not doing France brow three months. We all months like now, you guys are new here. But everybody needs to know on the show, I've been to France. You know, everyone's been reminded. Do you know what m up to me in the streets talking about like say da and she was saying the ship. I was like, oh, what's up? Like, no, listen to Horrible I know you're talking about France. Let's beak friends. I was like, okay, girl, she's to be creole, which is not. It was given

hat whoever you are? It was giving you get Um. I want to give a shout out to our guest today. We have Shanty and ant Snap from the Around the Way Curls podcast and it was super important to have them on because, bitch, when that flyer dropped for the Roots picnic, which guys, yes, weep will be at um come to Philly and Joel. We're gonna be there on the podcasts No Fourth and fifth fourth, but we're just

gonna beat on the fourth on stage. Don't say the flyers already out, We're gonna be there on the fourth. The probab were supposed to tell which the flyers out. You ain't gotta be mad at me, Mandy. They weet, we don't even know what day. We know we have to ask our agents. Hey there's a flyer for the day. They don't basically announce the days in case things change, and or because I think they try to so like I see, just yeah, well market or is there a surprise? No,

they don't know. They just don't know. I don't know. Nut and Shout gonna be there. We're gonna be there. I'm gonna say, you guys have a really good pun name, and I'm like kind of jealous. She was against the name Wait, no way, her name we it was curl Interrupted, Around the Way, Curl. Actually, now you're given too much of those aren't taken yet? Sharing? Yeah, an inception date right here, bro, I need it's kind of fired that we had a whole thing date from here. Our listeners

chose the name for us. We we what do we? We had a we had a blog and so we had them choose for us, and they all voted and that's what they chose. That girl's best friend is definitely not corny. My favorite girls interrupted crazy. But to me, I was gonna be like when I of girl Interrupted, I think of a lot of drugs and Angela and I knows. I'm saying, do you remember that movie? Our base knows us, so I think it was perfect. It worked out, But I wasn't against the way it curls about.

While we are a multimedia platform, we basically bridge the gap between around the Way and academia. So we talked about a plethora of conversations, but love and light, money and dicks. Because duality is a thing. We are not a monolith, and so we we cover the gambit, but in a way where it's like you can actually digest what we're saying, and I think a lot of times some people can with us. Well no, no, But that's the thing is, like I think for us, it's like

there's a place for everyone. We can meet you where you're at. If you want to get on academia, we get there and ask you with a word meant. But then we can also be around the way play spades and like chill and like have a real conversation, which which which, by the way, shout out shout out to everyone who does play because this because here and we sat with a group of men and just started it was safe. Okay, I saw one of the most insane

pictures I've ever seen on Twitter in my life. I'm scared, and I thought, who am I gonna share this with on the podcast because after you guys, we have a couple of therapists coming in and I'm like, are they ready for this? But since you say so, I just want to preface how I found this photo. Uh, there's a domb. Shout out to Mistress Marley. I believe she opened her own black dungeon, which is great um in Brooklyn. Anyway, she put on a strap on today and posted in

and said, who's ready? And so this dude sent this photo with not only his butthole but something in it. What is that his own dick? Why does it around the way? All right? I don't know how, I don't know where. We're not going to shame anyone. What do you mean how I decided to show that this is a horrible decision show, Bro, have you ever seen some ship like this your life? Because they don't do that where we're from, brow we are. I got so deep in this whole, no pun attended. I said, he hasn't

only fans. I tried to bring him on the podcast already. It was six o'clock in the morning. I was in the hole, bro, and I was like, is this too nasty for these girls to see? It might not be, And it was like horrible to start off with the with the pod, which is horrible decisions. Uh. These two lovely ladies. If you guys enjoyed Hotels by Jasmine Sullivan, Uh, these two ladies actually were in two of the interludes. Kids.

So I wanted to really get into y'all's hotels because one of the things about the album that I love so much too is it gave into all the different parts of being a hole. And I think if you've listened to like this podcast from Too Now, I think there's ebbs and flows of being a hug. Um it's on the start with your ship, bro, how did you guys get involved with that before we hear it? That's what. That's our best friend, that's what. And she knew you

guys apparently you know. Now I think about it, I'm like, do you think that. I don't know. We didn't get to that. We're gonna get to that because I don't think her project is around like I think she's trying to say, like you guys are classifying folks as hoes and like really we're just women and having a human experience period, and so like you can say what it is, but I'm gonna I'll let you say that, but actually,

let's let's actually talk about what's happening. And that's kind of what we've said around the word horror as well. It's like, well, we're just gonna on it. And then now you can't use it against me, like you can't use it to put me down, because Mitch, I'm a home what I'm I'm a war I'm suck like if that makes you feel good, you know what I mean? And I think, to be fair, that's what we as

a black community did with the N words. They still can't use it with an e er, but now we use it like just what I'm a nigga like and now like again, white people still can't say. But I think we just use it now in a different sense, like reclaiming yourself. Yeah I want to Yeah, I do want to play? Could you play Antoinette's Tales so we

can get into it. The thing is, they just cannot handle if a woman takes the same liberty system, especially with regards to sex, Like our society teaches them to be so wrapped up in themselves and their own conquests that they forget we're sexual beings as well. Plus their egos are often way too fragile, but ever handle a woman who owns and has any real agency over her body. Agreed, And we're to blame as well, because we're out here telling them that the pussy is there is when an

actuality it's ours. I mean, we only be loaning it out for like the twelve minute men, It's great and the twelve men to say is they you know what I mean, like there's for help. Well, I it's interesting because I do think that there are a lot of people that are for the taking, a lot of women, people who identify as women, who feel like therefore the taking and it isn't offering, like oh, it is yours. You get to control how I feel, You get to

control my pleasure. And I am completely against that. I think that I had to do a lot of work to reclaim my sexual energy because it was violated at a young age and so and I'm just beginning to get the language for it, Like I've been reading The Power of the Erotic by Audrey Lord and all these things, and I'm like, you know what, there is a lot of power in my pleasure. And I deserve pleasure. It is a right. It is revolutionary for women to be pleased,

especially Black women. And I often I started to reflect on the sexual experiences that I had had and I was absolutely for the taking. I my body was in servant to their pleasure, that that was what I was there for. I didn't even consider myself. And when I started to do that, I recognize how uncomfortable it made some men in my life. You centered your pleasure when I, well,

what what I wasn't even center it. Well, I would say like I would like to introduce this vibrator into our and that was like I was shamed for it, like that's your problem, Like that's why you're not having orgasms, because that's actually an issue, and and I was and I wassm right, And so then I started to be like, well, I'm not gonna have sex until I can really figure out what I like and didn't take a break. But she's still on that break. I'm on the best cand um. Yeah,

I'm still break, but I pray for me. But I you know what it is, I really want to have you to listen. But it's not just that is I want to have energetic sex with someone I want to So I want to have sex that is not gender generally. No, it's not just my genitals. It is an actual connection. We are actually vibrating on a certain level where like we are so in tune with one another that you might not even need touch in order for us crystals. And when you have sex with someone like that, here's

two interesting things about that. I'd be happy to say it's I'll be happy to say it at that, but like, so, for one, I feel like a friend of mine who's celibate, but purposefully right, not just kind of like really really holding out. She wants to have sex like this with someone, so she keeps waiting to build this connection with this person, expecting that it'll get there. There's another part of this

that I really believe to be true. I don't think that just because you have an amazing emotional connection with someone you can jump into that crazy energetic sex. I think that has to come with building time. No agree, So maybe you gotta practice show pussy girl get well, you know what it is to a workout. You might be able to lift weights energetically. Well, I think energetically too.

I've been so there are certain things that I have relied on two orgasm that I'm trying to see, Like, can you energetically get there on your own before you try to offer it? Mandy? No, Mandy, I'm trying to tell you I'm getting close like I am. I'm not using porn now, I'm not using por She's told we a settle this and I'm never even watched Ithen I listened to it, I would listen to it. I have right here handwright, I've been why do you resist only

hands in a mirror? I'm trying to get to only hands, right, only fans, only hands. I'm trying to get there, but I haven't. Just have to start a circular motion instead of this way, and you have to rub your volva. You have to spend more time. But when you get rid of that VI writer, now it's like almost like my hand is stronger. But even standing in the mirror and touching myself, even when I watched myself, like actually feeling what my body feels like. All right, this is

getting a little serious. I'm just like that is that way I just so gently caressed my breast. I offer that's an offering, like if you want to get there with someone, you gotta get there with yourself first. Mandy, why do you resist not using porn? Why do you you know? I've just come to to learn in terms of about myself but also with my partners, which I've realized that's probably why I'm so shallow. I get a roused and come visually, which is probably why I ugly.

You'd like to mirror work yourself, Yeah, but then I gotta lean it right and makes me have to late. You could stand. I've been in your house. You can stand in front of your bathroom. I don't play with myself standing up my arms. I got t Rex arms, Bitch, I gotta lay down so a bitch can reach the ship. I can't reach my goddamn standing up. You know what I mean. I used to be mad when I was in middle school, you know, legit like like when I

was in it. When I was in middle school, I used to be you know how, like your arms had to go past your skirt. I'm like, bitch, I got t Rex arms. Everything gonna look like just nothing went past baby. I could have wore draws and they would have took me out anyway. UM, I want to play your tail next, if you don't mind, and then we think of a hotel if you have one up, preferably if something that happened recently. But um, I didn't go ahead and play shants tail, please me. I lost myself before.

I still in love with someone who brought me playfulness and light to my life at a time when I felt the complete opposite. So a weight of responsibility and I was very very serious and he was just As our relationship progressed I was always in his world and he wasn't really interested in We just wanted to enjoy the easy parts of me. There was no balance, and I started to be started to feel a shamed and you until I got angry and I realized he couldn't have access to any parts of me that he could

accept and love all of me. And then we broke up because it really wasn't even a relationship. It was a situation ship. That's what that was given. I just need to know you really like him, and he's just like, yeah, girl, were you coming over? Oh you can't come over tonight? All right, bas I'll check you another time. No. No. So I had my daughter when I was young, so I was like, what twenty three twenty four, I had

just gotten out of our relationships. I was maybe now you know that, how does the daughter let me do the academiaia? So I was just I felt a lot of responsibility. I was in mom mode all the time I was. I didn't feel like I had the space to have fun and be free because that whole life

was just cut off. Did that person join in your life as a mother or just ad he was just a boyfriend And so That's where it was this conflict of like I had this this area of my life where I was really responsible and like I think I had to think outside of just myself and then with him, it's just fun and games and and while that's someplace and it was exciting, I needed it. It was a relationship that I don't regret by any means, but it was exhausting and I couldn't be my full as self,

my whole self. I couldn't share certain things about my life emotionally that I was going through because he just couldn't relate and he didn't have any interest. There was no interest there. He would just go as soon as you wanted to maybe or share. Yeah, it was it was just a burden for him. And I can get it because he didn't sign up for that, and I, you know, I get it. He didn't sign up for it. That's not what he wanted. He was being honest. But

it just wear it on my self esteem. After a while, I ended up ending the relationship for him, it was it was mutual. I think we both knew, like we can't keep it's it's giving me. How long were you breaking up for? Yeah? Okay, now I feel like the ship of the relationship. I knew from the jump, like, this is the beginning of the relationship. I knew from

the jump it wasn't it wasn't going up. I mean me and my ex were just breaking up for six months like that, and it was just like Nill, like finally it was like, no, I'm ready, I'm ready for the same it was for when he was like, all right, I see this, like we can't keep doing it. You can't keep doing that, so I can. I can take it. Well, I want to get into ur Vanilla ship because it's where we make to the little Nasteel what I both, Um, this is literally the most same part of the show.

I mean that's gross. Actually this is gross. Yeah, so uh this one, No, she she helped me with the outline. Um, so this one comes from the New York Post. An ex teacher who fed students semen lace cupcakes has been sentenced to forty one years. I actually like saw this

and didn't even think we should. Cynthia Parkins thirty six, I'm gonna call it out because she's Nancy's fuck Um was sentenced um after pleading guilty to second degree rape, production of child pornography and conspiracy of mingling harmful substances. It's crazy because when I read this, I was like, I need to know what type of charges you get for stuff like this because I don't know if y'all see it too. There's a video going around now A

man I assume homeless clearly wasn't well. There's a video and woman's face. Yes, walked up to a woman sitting wagh in the mind it in New York and walked up and smeared her face with his pieces on the train on the train platform. Um. This woman lives in in Louisiana. But this is how many charges she has. She has seventy two charges of various sex crimes for this,

sixty eight of which we're dropped in her plea agreement. Um. But pretty much she was facing a hundred and fifty criminal charges, um, many of which are also sex crimes according to the indictment. I want to know if it says how many children she sat seen class? It was a whole class. Um. I just it's weird because we talk a lot about of course, um teacher, we see

a lot of teachers having a lot of affairs with students. Now, Um, that's popular, which we don't bring many of those conversations to um horrible decisions because it's just like that's put a failure. This was just interesting to me because I'm just like, what makes you think to feed children? Fucking Stephen Field cup kicks the devil. And I also want to know how they found out. No, in reading the

article in depth, they were involved with pedophilia. She was the wingman to her partner, her husband at that time, who was a cop or some kind of god, some kind of like official in that way, and they were they were molesting. They found nude photos, No, they had. She probably should have gotten more time. But now that I think about photo that was just found that those

how the fuck? Like I do some dumb ship like maybe I'll like smoke weed or maybe I've pop Molly and maybe took a little snapchat of and then sent it to a friend. But if I know I'm committing up crime crime, I'm going to take a pictures telling that a whole video picking and they keep these like

keeping it it's really children. So I've been like, well, I'm working on a you see, an investigative crime podcast, and one of the things that they keep like pulling up at the trend with like people that commit murders that are not accidents. I'm not talking about like crime of passion or like you got mad, you had to kill that name right, People that like enjoy the kill. They need the trophy, and so they try to take

lots of pair. They try to take something. And that's something about like getting off with like the pedophilia thing, and bro, it's crazy. What do you mean that's my thing? Like me, but the people her she can rotten jail, but like what do these poor kids there too? Like? And and for the word rpe to be used, it's been interesting because I went down a hole even um, I love rabbit holes, but just words and used to just and that came after me looking up prison food.

Oh my god, those YouTube videos of making prison me didn't have, Bro, that ship is crazy. But then I ended up down just the whole of like but you know what's easy, like about those prison food ship. So the nigga who's calling make boring, he was telling me about his little prison tales because I send him the Hobachi ship because he ain't got Instagram. So I'll be like, damn, I'm tied offloading these videos. But I sent him the Instagram though he didn't have instagramase he was still locked up.

He locked up. Oh no, no, nor very fair question, but no, I saw the habbachi video. For anyone who hasn't seen it, they just basically light of fire and they're cooking food on the grate of like the stairwell in prison in the Middle Grade. So I sent him the ship. I was like, you was doing this ship. He's like, nah, but that's crazy because like when I saw the dude with the Rolex, he was like, that

was something that was like really important. In jail, there would be confiscated goods that or like maybe an inmate who died, or like ship that they would basically like sell or the guards would like give it up or people would want their ship back. And he was like, yeah, like it's really commun to see like people in in the federal prison because they can't get out for a minute with like jewelry, like dog, they just flexing. Still, I love it. Everybody Rolex or chain on. Some are

to adorn themselves. It's not about just doing it to be in the public. It's for yourselves. Also, I'm getting giving innovation. It just shows the honesty. Like no, but that's what I'm saying when if you go down the YouTube rabbit hole of prison meals my nigga. Did you watch the one on Netflix where they're talking through the toilets. Hold on. They have this thing called an oven, but it ain't an oven, bitch of a towel. But after they put the rock the hot water in the ramen,

they put it in a plastic bag. When they wrap it with a towel, they got to close the towel and it creates like a coveying oven. They call it the oven though, bitch, I guess it is theme, but they like literally make that brilliant. It's I mean, I mean, I told you all, like my uncle when I was girl, he made us jail burrito and wasn't well, the burritos wasn't like the tortilla part that ship the tortilla part, girl,

the tortillaidilla, you feel me. But the tortilla park what it was actually was it was crushed up ri rito's and trito's and they put a little bit of water on it and let it sit because then it becomes like the most And then he filled it with peanut with jelly. You know what I'm talking about, right, he didn't beat it like he ate it. And you know the rio the jellerrito, right of course you know what

it looks delicious. Ritos are the sleep and got them and doritos and apparently he said to they cost the most in commissary them in the pack of ale. It's giving bubble guts. It's giving, but it's it's giving hot. But she said, speaking of hot. But oh well, I tell you so basically the Habach ship, he's like, it's only good when you got like the meat. He's like, and ain't got steaks, so you gotta find niggas that

are in the kitchen and they bring you the ground beef. Right, He's like, but a lot of which is, by the way, very sad. A lot of I think he was in the FEDS and like in a California jail. So he said, like a lot of than meat is expired obviously, or

it's not good. So he's like dog. He's like, when you're sick from like eating, and you're in a cell, not like gp general population where you can leave yourself, he's like, nigga, when you gotta ship and the somebody else gotta ship, and y'all nigg's gotta take turns ships. I need to be right next to the toilet here, and I need to be back to back. So you're telling me now I gotta share it with some other bids. I need to gonna hold you to me. It's given.

Living in New York with two roommates, thank you? Okay, so you got two roommates, right, bitch. Everybody got a nine to five. Everybody got a morning ship? Did you have a one bedroom, one bath? I lived in a I lived in a three bed, one bath. And hold on, hold on, it is giving. We all got to go to work in the morning. We all got to take our morning ship. So to me, it's just as bad if you use if your roommate take a ship. Not only do you have to take a sit in the

aroma of their ship. Do you know what makes it even worse? You're already the theme of a hot showers are comparing jail. I was leaving. I had three one. It was crazy. It was giving. Completely understand your struggle. So fucking crazy. No, and I love I hate us so much. Right now, let's sen I want to go through a whole facts, and it's real quick. I'm gonna read the whole facts, and then before we get to the horrible decision, weasy if we both can share a hotel.

I think it makes sense for this episode. The whole fact that I have for this week's episode, UM was really interesting. UM. I found that taxpayer money has actually been funding abstinence only until marriage education since the Ronald Reagan era. In nine, Congress past the Adolescent Family Life Act without hearings or floor books. It was tacked onto another health build and the language outlined its mission to

promote chastity and self discipline. OUTPA received the most funding of any sexual health program, two hundred million dollars in all, before the Obama administration ended it in twenty And the fact that we've set on this podcast, and I've sat on multiple other podcasts and talk about the lack of sexual education in schools, But to know that two hundred million dollars went towards abstinence only until marriage education, it's crazy because I don't know where that money went, because

I don't even but I don't even think I was taught just to be abstinent until marriage. That to me was something that came from the Church, not from everything in this country is founded and God, you separate the church. What what year is it, Mandy? What year is it? Tell me? And two before Christ, after Christ? The Christians one the whole world, like Louis c. K talks about this, the whole world subscribes to this of like before Christ after Christ, like it's very clear how we define things.

And the Church is like, that's just the word because technically, if you go about what they say, nothing was before Christ because Christ created all the donosaurs and shipped too. Do you I don't want to go down before Christ is talking about the dinosaurs. But didn't he create everything? Christ couldn't create everything. Christ is the child of God. No Christ, it looks like but no, I'm serious. I'm serious. Absence and those kinds of things. Christ, God, and Jesus

technically all the same person. They are the same person, but Christ wasn't. Technically people are what they pray their Lord and Savior. Because I thought the Lord was God, So how is Jesus Because Jesus is a part of the Lord. This is the same. Wow, let's real this back Wait wait, no, immacul to think about it. No, it's not though, because virgin the world. I don't want to upset people. The word virgin Christ put while Mary was sleep put a little sperm, no Christ, and not

slea Mary. No Mary was with Joseph, and Joseph and Mary were married, And virgin back then did not mean what it means today. It met young woman. That's what it man. And so now if you tell them that, people don't wreak out. But his historians will, like really have researched language and said that word did not mean. You do need to go what I'm saying, and they interpreted as as man has interpreted the Bible and interpreted those writings. It was the it was the immaculate conception.

She never had. It's thirty one virgin age. I think I'm a virgin. These are the technicalities. Don't feel like Mary. To be honest, I'm not sure. I'm not trying to disrespect, but I'm just really trying. I tried to just because I said that as like the Bible is the hell of a drug, and that sounds disrespectful, but I really mean that, like people believe it, and I get it.

You have to have faith in something. But I just I'm I am saying to critically think and consider something else, because consider how patriarchy is infused in the Bible and how that trickles down into the school. Don't know if people and they're gonna be for so mature. Baby and Wheezy were bringing up dicks. She was trying to tell us about the version of We were trying to bring it back to the Stotoy ship. Okay, the Lord forgives amen. I even hold you the way we talked about that

ship with Brianda. You can take some of them stories out the Bible and I can put it right here on this phone and rout my pussy to it. Because Babe Davey doing some wild ship, they would have an origin in the Just try that rather than porn. It actually reads like an ironica. It's some book you're thinking about. Like, I'm not editing. I can't even close in my mouth right now. I feel really bad. Actually, even you were like like a little too far. I feel like when

we were there's no way to take anything too far. Bro, We're already here. I'm sorry. Okay, did you say, Wheezy, this is a comedy podcast as long as we say it's comedic bro. By the way, that is very true. I have a conversation after conversation about, you know, make these shows for work, and I was like, you know when they unscripted, the Amazon is like, bitch, make sure they say comedy. I'm like, well, what if we put a lap track in there. They're like, people have to

know you're trying to be funny. Do anything you want. You can't talk about Jews or black people, but just do what you can. You can't put a laugh track real quick, can I tell you? Actually, there's way more people than that you can't talk about. Because the way my background check came in, Um, they didn't care about my assault charge. No, they said, ma'am, we love you and we're still gonna work with you. We have some tweets from two thousand nine and that we need you

to the company that I'm about to work with. Oh so I could find it that far. I love that. I would love to be the person that goes through people's ship. I'm not gonna lie. So I went through it last night. Jesus Christ, this was what say't even say. The only thing I did take a screenshot up before I deleted it. Don't don't say it, Mandy, No, it's not bad. This one isn't bad. So one last night thought was crazy. Just this keeper don't say this shows how far ahead of my time I was. It says,

damn Asians in these masks. I wonder if an Asian has called swine flu yet, And here we are in because this was during the time of swine flu. But because they're considerate and they lead from a place and now we're all wearing mass to be honest, they're just smarter, that's just and they're considerate. They're like, I'm sick. I don't want to get you sick, and our raggedy asses

don't do that. This one point about Asians, and I think anyone who's ever been and Mandy lived there for a little bit, No, this is like, listen, I've never been anywhere else in the world in my life whereas a collective people that went there talked about how amazing something was, whether it be transportation, but there'd be the working thing, whether it be the food, whether it be

the cleanliness, the style, every single time wonderful. I mean, I'm specifically talking about Japan, but like even when I went to China, right I'm like, damn, how do they do transportation like this? How do they have this going on efficiently? How are they doing it? Like it's just everything because they'll be collective, they were to not only a collective their governments, Um, I feel like they're there.

Their citizens are a little bit more fearful of the government, like it's a copy but like, but like, no, when I when I we was gonna get these bitches real quick, real quick, you got hold on. Not only okay, well I can't make a dick worthy. So so in Singapore you would get fined a thousand dollars for chewing gum on the subway. How for you also couldn't watch porn.

And they banned sex toys in Singapore. So if you like when I would in Japan, if you would, if you went through the airport in Singapore with sex toys, you risk being fined, which is crazy. Out the sex toys because for Thailand to have that rule and prostitution be a thing that people like, literally tourism, I didn't know, Yes they do not the way I saw a bitch pool. Uh, sex tourism. You can't watch the porn Thailand. The pussy

she was shooting pongs out of her pussy. They give you a paddle if you hit it, and then the bitch put water and squirt at all of us. We said it's time to go. That was that was giving semen cupcake. I didn't ask for that. Maybe I don't want them ping pong. That's just things I can't say. You would watch this for you guys brand I know. I was just thinking, like, wow, to be great, dude, I really want the guy Alex Toussan from Peloton. Doesn't

you guys write Peloton? We're not rich from a Jamaican Megan. Maybe he do, maybe he don't work there. Now we'll let me know if he's got going Craigslist and if the price seems too good to be true, I would like one offer. What about ship was brand new and he set it up. He's like, all right, if you get too sweaty, use a wet white and then he's like call me if you need anything. And it got warranty to you know, this is one brand there. You

got the dude from Peloton. There's like a guy who's like super popular on there and like he does a lot of talks. He's amazing. His name is Alex and I just got the white guy. He's a black guy. Sorry, hello, I like the white gay. I love back, I really do. So I asked only time was like, y'all really wanted you to become a horrible mainly because he's fine. But anyway, he was like he does podcast. He just did a soul house talk. So I sent him the page. He

wrote back three days later. It was like, well, y'all wild never wrote me again, and I just want to say, like, like, we could go what did you say earlier? We could meet you. Yeah, meet you where you're at. We met you what you love at the beginning? You mean you brought up Jesus and we are lost. We did, but it wasn't fun of Jesus, the saying God, we Trus know you did talk about Jesus created everything. Yeah, you got a sword. Your timeline was off. Wow, was going,

oh no, we're still on my outline. This is why I loved Jesus. Dicks in there, No, Jesus dicks are not in here. Also, Jesus gotta have a big dick you think about. But Jesus also loved the horse as well. Jesus loved the horse Jesus, welcome the horse. The horse is washing his feet. People that ship. I really don't like that trying to tweet that like that, like they're

trying to be disrespectful. Bitch. First of all, I know Jesus loved me, Hope, but duty love you, as grass Let's saying in the cabaret, bitch, I did not know that. It's great, no judgment. Mary Magdalen, Yeah, she said Jesus loved her. Are you eat confirmed? He yeah she was. It was just Marry, I'm just doing the cross. It was just Marry in the Hope and that was it. They were. Everybody else will follow Jesus, even his followers

were there. It was it was the ones that the wretched of the earth had his back in his Mama's never remind me of how when a niode you find out about everybody sucking because everybody showed it to the funeral. Was that reminded by it was crazy? I dolliod that shit up to me like two weeks ago. He knows you're not to come because them there, you know, he said, Hey,

I'm gonna tell you something right now. That's why I like keeping in a honey with you, because when I die and you at my funeral, I don't want no surprises. It was like, Nigga, what you gotta know, the scared up we're gonna come up there or down there and come get your out down there. Bro, he's kind of crazy. He's gonna hell. I've got sure he isn't. Well, you're gonna meet him there in Gasolene draws, bitch, I'm for you to think that you know, the Plan B could

be every dead currents. I felt like you might be going. He said, you could pop like kittles. He just said to me when because obviously if maybe some of you don't have Patreon, you're welcome. So we after the Plan B situation have used condom since and he was like, I don't understand, like what you're scared of? You nigga. Also, Planned B is detrimental if you use it often. Ladies, this is a p thing. It doesn't work all the time. How long have you even on this on the cell

of the journey, Um, it's Harry. First, you say that you haven't been around actively, try to be saying today. I get it's given high that I was absolute during the pandemic. Nobody would come to New York. It's center. I had sex twice last year, okay twice, Well, I don't know what was like, but this one thing's playing me is like goddamn TikTok. And you don't don't have a rule. I don't have sex with anyone that I

can't accidentally get pregnant by. You don't. I don't if I don't feel like if something happened here and I and I wouldn't feel like comfortable with that girl. Don't embarrassing girl that is now you say you'll know, you know, I'm not home and the Lord, don't you just describe me me? You ain't see what he looked like? No, you could that. It's a lot of less than one percent the math, Wow, ancient divine man point zero zero accounting jobs and thought. Make sure we remind you. I've

been to corporate America and that's the perspective. I'm a pray for you. That's not a lot of dick. Did you really have sex if you only this much in one year? Yes? Yeah, that'sn't like white clean like yeah, yes, actually that the history and your lagic works out is um this hard logic. This is actually called Florida public school.

I'm Florida Public School System at your find Yeah. Um, well, let's get into our Horrible Decision because where I guess we can get back to being mature mature, Um, probably not, We're gonna um. So this one's gonna make it through Stemen Cupcake, which is crazy because this kind of does bring up back in the Day's ship with like Jesus RaSE the Horrible Decision said that I wanted to discuss

with you guys. Um is the Madonna horror complex, which, if you guys, go maybe all the way back to maybe within the first fifty episodes of this show, we kind of discussed it because we've talked a lot about hor phobia and the usage of the word horror, and I want to read the definition real quick of Madonna horror complex before we really dig into it, especially since y'all have hotels. It didn't really sound very hollish, but um.

In psycho palytic literature, a Madonnald horror complex is the inability to maintain sexual arousal within a committed loving relationship. First I didn't first identified by Sigmund Freud under the rubric of psychic impotence, this psychological complex is said to developing men who see women as either stlee Madonna's or debased prostitutes. Men with this complex desire a sexual partner who has been degraded, the whore, while they cannot desire

the respected partner, the Madonna. What then, is the ditonomy Madonna? Anyway? I just thought that's what WO always confused me about Madonna, horror, because you're either a Madonna or a horror. And I'm like, wasn't she that you just thinking of Madonna? But Madonna is like a whole another word. I think Donna has the pure Madonna is the mother of Jesus. Stop, why did that say? No, that's their original Madonna. When she took that name, she did what she did with it.

Foy grow to the I don't have to say out that's why she did like a version. Yeah, she's trying to suck your heads up that she was a really reclaiming the whole. She was the first one. But wait, but her mama gave her that name. Her name is Madonna Luise Ziconi. But she's saying that she was using for what like imagine, like remember when she came out in that veil and then she ripped her thing and there was nothing but brass. The only time I know about that was well she did. She came out in

a veil. She had a like a veil and like a nun thing and then she went like that and this whole seat through panel was there and she continued to perform to be like, this is what you guys want us to be, but guess what we're actually sexual beings as well is how you see us. But but that that the reference to that uh situation, Madonna whore, the Madonna is referred to the mother Mary. It's not to Madonna the singer. It's Madonna the mother Mary, the

virgin or the whore. So we really donna see you see this baby the ones that baby don't rey baby the ons As a mom, you after you had a baby and you were with your partner, did he look at you differently? Like no, because I know that there were things where that he said, you know there were things that happened where he was like, you have to move differently as a mom. Now, I think that's assumed for mothers you have to move a certain way. But

also it's not even mothers. You want to know what this reminds me of how so many people say there's certain things that they won't do with their wives, they

do it with me, you know what I mean. So, but like there's a lot of there's a lot of men that I've dealt with, clearly married men, and we have that conversation as far as there's still so many things that they want to do sexually, but they're not gonna do it with their wives because they don't want to see their wives differently, they don't want to Uh, there's there's certain things sexually that they won't do, which is which is ironic to me because as women, we

leave a lot of things to do with our husbands, Like a lot of look forward to a lot of women save certain things like sexy. But I don't want to do anything but with my houses where we hold against like at least for like the butt hole or like the three sons. You got to be my husband because we are so worried about being a whore. That's why you have to get your slutty ears out, you

know what. There's there's some truth to that of like you're definitely worried about how it's gonna be perceived, But I also feel like I want to feel really safe when I'm exploring those kinds of things, like I want to be with the person that I trust completely, and then I want to get real fucking weird likes. I want to hear well that that was a problem when

I was with my ex. He was open to allowing me to explore that with him, but we couldn't find the We couldn't agree on who the other men would be. He felt like, well, they should just be men that we meet at the sex club, or let's just have and I was like, no, I said, for for something like a gang bang or a threesome or foursome multiple men. I'm like, I want to feel safe. There's the only way for me to enjoy that experience is to do

it with people that I'm comfortable with. He was not sitting here trying to let me have x X men that I've dealt with come into the bedroom with us, and I was just like, then, I don't want to do it. Like I think, as women, it takes a lot for us to even feel safe and our most vulnerable, sluttiest, horrist things, especially in the bedroom. Corrian, you're saying slutty, horrible all that it's just human, it's just sucking hum and I and I get the word. It makes complete

sense how you're using it. But I want people to recognize, like there is no madonna or whore. There's there's women all in between. There's a lot of other area and like you can be both. That's the point I think of the complex. It's a complex for a fucking reason. Like if if you and I had I said this to you yesterday, If you think that having sex with me somehow turns me into a whore, what does that say about your penis? What does that say about your sex?

What does that say about what we're like? You you're in this equation. Okay, but that's the thing. Though. Men don't care. But that's the don't We need to start asking them. But I think it's the men's problem. It's not the women's problem. It's the man's problem. Why you don't feel I think it's a safety thing for the man. Why don't you feel open and safe enough to explore

those things with your wife? You're putting this ship on your wife, Like I don't want it to base her, but you don't want your wife to see the parts of you that you're interested in, why don't you want to open that up? I think that's a really simple answer. I think men think of their wives in this hierarchy and virginal way and like this and the sex acts are very nasty and something that we should not experience

with someone that we put in this pestle. I had a guy that I was really in love would tell me once he didn't want me to go down on him in a car because he was like, I would never do something like that. You wouldn't want you to have to do that. I can't. That's that's what he was. Super religious. Yeah, right, So I'm not saying that someone religious can't end up having sex like that, but you have.

You grow up with a lot of that nuance of like, oh my god, I have to save these dirty things for someone that I don't love and honor to unpack and like that's it. Men don't think it's this reflection on them, because they really believe they're doing these women a favor by treating them well, by not fucking them crazy, which is why women fuck pool boys just saying, Bro, their husbands don't suck the sh out of them because they're out sucking some fucking other bitch because they don't

want to do nasty things with their wife. They don't have the pleasure that they want. I know so many way, especially older women who were so completely they were not satisfied sexually at all. It puts unfulfilled. Yeah, it puts women in a chokehold too, because there's this whole idea of being a lady in the street and the freaking the bed so you can't even explore and express your sexual side out side of the bedroom is also a

constricting thing. I mean, but also as women too, like we've been shamed if we sleep with a man for the first time and we stuck their dick a little too good and then they're like, whoa, how many people you don't do that? Like they're shame even in us showing up. I actually try to save it now, just so that I could work up to it. Just a horrible decision they got. I'll be bringing the toy kidnaw nowsure.

We do have a homemail this week that hopefully y'all can give some advice on the title is sick of fake it while I'm taking it. Hi, beautiful ladies, I just found your show two weeks ago, and I've been binge watching every single day at work and I love, love, love the podcast. I'm thirty four and I've been with my husband for seven years. Lost my virginity at thirteen. I have a ton of experience with older men, and the first time I had sex, I was so disappointed

because it was nothing like everyone bragged about. I felt no pleasure, nothing, I felt duped. But I became a free, care free spirit anyway and experienced all kinds of dick sizes, shapes, tastes. I didn't think she was gonna go There still never any orgasms from penetration, though I simply chose to master my craft of pleasing others and eventually came to the conclusion I was the minority of women who would never experience an orgasm through printation penetration until two years ago,

all caps. It happened. The most amazing, absolute, amazing fucking thing I have ever experienced. And when I say, I dad dream about those ten seconds way too often. It's a shame. Anyhow, that was the one and only time it's ever happened. And now, before I experienced this incredible pleasure, it was easy to accept my body wouldn't allow to happen, But now that it has, I need and I want more.

Our wedding anniversary is coming up March one, and I'd love to hear some advice on what I can do to possibly up my chances of experiencing that euphori again. I'm tired of faking multiple orgasms to boost his ego and f y I. He's the most freaky and nasty man I've ever been with. I enjoy the kinky ship we do. I just want to start focusing on what my body needs so I can receive the same type

of pleasure and I can bestow it upon him. Thanks so much for your show, sacrifices and consistent, not because the sacrifice is like Jesus, I love this with love hurting first, squirting the fake gasm queen, I feel like I'm um God's chosen one for for two I have about it. I have a three day period and I orgasm of penetration, which, mind you, we've learned as well the majority of women cannot orgasm through penetration. It's clatoral simulation.

So the fact that she did get to feel that um like the coming from penetration, that's actually not common amongst women because of science unfortunately. Um And maybe you're not God's chosen like myself. But um, I would say with with my advice to her. Um And this is the thing too, not all men can make me square. I've squirted with only like two men. The ones I didn't even give a funk about. They just I don't know what, but in they pressed, they just knew what

to do. Um. I think what she's doing right now is probably thinking too hard about it and maybe applying the pressure without letting her partner know that this is what she wants to experience. And sex is a lot more psychology than it is really what's going on. And so because I feel like mentally she wants to experience this heightened orgasm, she's not allowing herself to be in in the space when she's having sex. I don't think traitive orgasms either, but I come when I'm sucking because

I find ways to get my clitter out. So, like, my advice is really difficult because you got someone who's nasty and kinky. It sounds like you're comfortable sucking him, so really hard to give you advice. But I will tell you how I get mine. If I don't touch my clip and it's always on top, I literally have to work like that. I mean you could from behind though the cowboy ride Internet. You could be on your knees so that you don't have to like squat down on the dick, but you got mad access to your

clip from there. If you don't even want to touch it, you know what I'm saying, like rubbing your clip clip up and down like bit. If his dick is medium sized and you can even get it on the balls and rub it up and down. You can get stimulation that way if you don't want to touch yourself. But like, touching myself is how I get off during sex? Yeah, well, outside of this homemail specifically, how do you guys, because we're all in our thirties now, how do you guys

communicate with a man who's not making a orchasm? Do you keep going at it or do you keep faking it? Like our homemail listening, I could have wrote that I was like sex. I was like, you can't even be don know you're gonna read your question on eide. You mean you can't be honest? I absolutely I When I tell you the actress that I am convulsions. I can make myself sweat. I can do so many things. Why why to center them so that they feel good? But

you're betraying yourself. I'm very clear about it. So when in reading that, one of the things that I said, what I was thinking the first time I said was read that to him. Read that to him and leave it there and like and read it to him touching, because when you have hard conversations you should always touch. But read that to him and see where it goes, see what he says. But it's something that I struggle

with this. Well, it's another reason why I'm into like a lot of self pleasure now and making sure that I figure out what I like so I can effectively communicated. Because I also feel like if you're just coming to someone and saying when you don't know your body and you're just saying, well, you're not making me come, We'll show me. I was talking about this with a friend of mine and and again Louis c k came up.

We were laughing about it, but he said, you know, if somebody pulled their dick out, it up, and I was like, I would be I love that. I love watching a man please himself because I see what he likes. I often asked someone, Yeah, like that was why I don't want to be I don't want to say, Sandy, are they about to curse me? I don't think that was okay, But I'm saying that's how the conversation came up. But I'm saying, like, with a partner, show me, I

love that. I love that with men because especially when pleasing man, either with a hand job or sucking their dick, like you get to even see how much pressure they like, how much they really like hands. You like hand you sit and tell me to tell me what they've died me more than like men when they jack off, they will it's literally a lesson on how they like to

be pleased. And I will also say really quickly if you're doing it for them, if they're not a very vocal person, and there you can see that they struggle with it, tell me what you want me to do next, or I'm not gonna do anything. Oh I've definitely done that. Like, you gotta tell me what you want because I want you. I want you to be able to say it and get comfortable telling me and being vulnerable and really opening up. So I can do it too. Yeah, I love the

reading it. I'm sorry shying she took that. I'm sucking around. I know that that way, I was awesome. If I gotta you gotta tell what I gotta say. She should stop lying. She should stop faking it. That's all stops. It's doing nobody any justice. She needs to tell them. The Bible said they should tell them the truth and stop faking an organism. And I shall not lie. See that's a tech commandment surposes. I thought it was greed still and what is it? All right? But that's let's

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Studios and Studio A come check us out. By all right, this has been another episode of horrible decisions by guys. All Right, y'all, we let you know at the top of the show that we are doing a live show this weekend, Saturday, April six, in Los Angeles at the Hollywood Improv. Just want to let you all know. This is the one time only we not added of the shows.

The Beach nine me and he's already tired. She is already like, I gotta go to l A just for y'all because she loves it here lokey Hollywood in pop linking the bio and our revolution is televised to make sure he looks hot. Bye, it's bonus, bitches, and we bet get gee, it's not going to be filled with with much tea. I already have people like would Old Bay say when he heard this bitch, I wouldn't know

I blocked that new girl. I mean, he may have someone giving him the tea anyways, I'm sure, but um, I just thought I guess to give if he knows what he did. When I was in the elevator just coming up to do this episode, um, my neighbor. I had a company sent me like a hundred bodies groups, maybe forty I'm not exaggerating, a hundred forty about forty right, black ticks. She's next door, so I handed it to her. I was like, oh, here, I got this, you know in the mail. I want to give them to you.

Was because we gotta keep from staying and young, she goes, and we gotta keep staying young. And she was like, girl, I'm way older than you. And I said, what she is? Thirty five? I swear on my mom And I thought she was maybe at max like thirty eight. She looked really young, and she said, I'm fifty. I said, bitch, I know you vegans. That's how it might not even be vegan. That's how uh, that's how motherfucker's be treating

my ex like my ex does not look fifty at all. No. And I think that's the thing though, when you really take haverybody. And and don't get me wrong, I only know her because she is a dog. So we'd be at the dog park, but she'd be running with the dog, jumping up and off the table like working all like crazy, and I'm like, yo, you know you don't look fifty. So I say all that to say, she said, because I thought about Maggie. Who's the bitch? O Bay went you see and due I and she said, girl, I

don't have a concept of time. She said, if you asked me, I'm still sucking the nick. I was from high school. She was like, everything feels the same. She was like, I take care of my body. She was like, and my spirit is like she said, I eat good and I'll tell no lies. I said, I know, not right, and I really want to tell old b because his body is fucking crazy. He really really works on his body, but he tells lies, and so that's why he's bald. Well,

Balding is not no balding. I liked hair. Bald is sexy. My ex ball Yeah, but I doubt what a lot of diggas was bald. I've had other bald niggas coming suck me down. He like bald players. Oh episode names. Sorry anyways, guys in this episode is our cinema for the month, and we chose to do bad vecan if I'm not a bad vegan on vacay bro. It was good, it was really good, but what's crazy too? I think last month we did The Tender Swindler, so it's very similar in conversations. So I dug in to do some

different things. But before we started with the catchup, I want to know what other TV you were currently watching? Um Jocelyn's Caperette. Honey, I can't wait to see this. He was going one day, I just I just went to a Sanse's house and he caught me all the way up with it, so messed mind. Did what was I gonna say? Um, I've been rewatching Girls on HBO and I've been watching what is it that I watched every Sunday? Oh not need a fiance? That ship's getting crazy. Um.

I didn't want to make mention. I was in a every week On Tuesday's we have a staff meeting with all the heads at my job, and two of the departments have to do with stuff you watch right, film and TV. And literally one of the girls is like, so and so keeps throwing me a project. But like, by the time we released this on Netflix, they're already

gonna be tired of this scamming. She's like, Netflix goes in waves, So right now you've got an LV, then you've got the Tinder Swindler, then you've got Bad Vegan. She's like, we're in a wave of scam. She's like, we've been in a wave of stay end up. We got in a wave of black sheet and she's like, Netflix hits you in ways and keep feeding you. She's like, by the time we acquire this project, the way we'll

be off. And I was like, wow, like that is really like Hollywood ship because I don't even I forgot Anna Delvi too, all of them, and now it makes me want more. And of course because you watched blah blah blah, now you like this, so it's like I do enjoy it. And the Bad Vegan story was great, but like I want to actually see how long that time. Really.

It's weird because I really don't think people get sick of it, Like I'm someone and I think I mentioned it on this pod when I'm just like nothing's on TV. I love to binge American greed, which technically is scams maybe a year or two ago. No, no, no, people don't get sick of it. I think they're saying, like the hype. Oh, I mean but even what was it one or two years ago? Now was Firefest and that had everyone talking. So I mean, I think that people

love watching other people get got over on. Don't know why, but I think it's a thing. I thinks it's also like the everyday person to all of these people are very unassuming, you know what I mean, Like I think I was talking to Sophia that they're not even unassuming. They just white because the way, no, no, there could be your everyday persons, white as crook ass bitches who somehow even just get the access to all this loan money. It's insane, it's insane.