Ep 256: Big Letters & Little Letters (Ft. Limitless Luxe LS)

you know I'm I'm here for I'm super excited. Um. A few episodes ago, I shared about going to a high protocol dinner. So for those of you guys who saw the clip on our social media or listen to the episode and wanted to know more about that night, we are going to get into it. But let me go ahead and introduce our guests. We have T as well as Mal. Some of you all are gonna remember the boys, um, but both of them are the owners and founders of Limitless Lifestyle. That sounds like exotic car

rental agent. So we wanted to come off as exotic. We wanted it to be ext and luxurious. We wanted to We wanted to like give it a field, which we'll get into, I guess later, but we wanted to give it a feel more like high class versus just like something where people like freak Nick like. We didn't want to be that level. We wanted to be something loo get into it because I definitely gave freak nick even at the party with my body suit. Damn bitches

in gown. I'm gonna say and let you know. And for those of you who are listening, we actually don't have a visual tea because of her job. But um them a little diamonds. Just because you added some diamonds. We didn't make it hot class. There could be bangle. That's how realance. You know, it's true, it's true, but

balanced dimension, that's all I know. That's where I love that you guys also said you wanted it to be luxurious, because I know that when talking about going to even sex clubs and play parties when it's all black, there's a lot of questions regarding how it's ran, how it's operated, the cleanliness of it. For whatever, it ran like a Jamaican restaurant. That's what we wanted yeah, wait, what's wrong with Jamaican restaurant is Ranby ain't never got nothing in

their beach. That's what runs out because right I'm telling you, like, there's a Pepper's which ain't like quote unquote Jamaican by my crib now and Laurie sad, and I'd be like even them niggas ain't got ship and we're in a well, there's a Puerto Rican neighbor laisapa. Still I'll be going in there be like, y, you don't even have beef patties.

That's like basics number one. There's Peppers and Flatbush. And I literally whenever I go, I literally go in all black and I wear a hoodie and I'll bring like like I work gloves because because people get shot in front of Pepper's, so I have to make sure that nobody's gonna try to fuck with me on this. Like okay, I say that, say what you know where you are? Right?

We usually late, like my home girl and I whenever we go to Brooklyn, like we have to go and we get our escambes fish and you get your jerk chicken and your festival. And now she had to say it like that A great viral clip of this girl saying that Jamaican restaurants don't understand what you're ordering it. Look right, Okay, that's what you said. What is limitless luck? Since you can't it's not a card aden scene. So okay, So Limitless Lucks was we saw we were kind of women.

We've both been the lifestyle for a bit, um and we've been to parties, been to events, and we've seen that there has been like there's a disparity between the type of events that are thrown for white community and black community. And we wanted to bring a higher level of luxury of luxury or let people see a higher level of luxury and when it comes to like the type of events that they can have. And um, like

we're both travel agents. We both have we travel all the time anyway, So you guys together, No, no, I don't know. We're friends. We're good friends. We met in the lifestyle. We've like you know, talked to had our conversation and um and just been really cool friends. But another thing is we wanted to add the travel peace. Right, So figured a group of people that are into the same thing go into this luxurious hotel and you don't have to worry you a question about who you are,

who's around you, because everybody's on the same they got mad. Yeah, just like even even have a money right because if you were towards something, you can put your coins together

and speach yourself because you deserve. That's funny at night because when I'd be ready to spend if I'm telling you, when I've had like lotdown to my last dollar, but I knew I was gonna spend it on this meal, I was like, oh, I have money tonight at this table exactly, and no thinking of it that way, Like there's no limits to what I want to do, and I can experience it in a way that's not the norm, but it's mine and it's the way I choose to

live my life in this lifestyle. So limitless loves lifestyle. Um, I love that you brought that up so on your Instagram page. I want to start this show off, um by kind of digging into some quotes um that I found in us all like kind of discussing what it means us, So like this one says for us, when our sexual lifestyle is essential to our sense of identity, Anybody who doesn't know about our kink doesn't really know us.

So what kind of you just said Even in experiencing these types of trips or these type of dinners like we did, you were like you get to kind of be yourself. You know, everyone at the table is going to accept you for you. I want to know if you all truly believe that you can't kind of identifies you, like if who you are in the bedroom is truly who you are? Believe that, because I mean, I'd be real nasty in the bedroom, but I don't think I'm

really nasty all the time. But it's the thing that like, I mean, everybody goes out in the world and puts on a face, right, you put on like what you the face you need to put on in order to handle your business and do things you need to do. Um, But secretly you have the desire, which is your primal desires that you want to take out whether or not be in the bedroom or wherever however you do the lifestyle,

how do you live your lifestyle? But it's like, um, these are things that like you can't like wait to like if you think about you like you can't I can't wait to get home to like like I don't know, so you can make a different back like and so it's when you kind of have that like, that's that's where that's the lifestyle is like the type of location where you can let that out and not really feel judged, but have to worry about that because they be judging.

You'll be judging that I eat boot hole, Y'll be judging. I mean, I know you don't think this is like relative to me because I'm such a sub. But the only thing that I could compare it to um. A lot of people think that sub or bottoming is, you know, UM a weaker thing to do, right, But the one thing I was reading this thing, I think it's seven

something of success. I can't remember what it was. I listened to it on audible, but anyway, they were talking about, UM, letting go of control is a fearless thing to do. And that is the only way I could describe it with being a sub because like I don't need to have control because I'm not afraid in that moment, right or I'm like feeling confident or whatever, and that's why we're able to do these certain things. That's why I think I could maybe related to that. But as far

as like my everyday life. I don't really think I'm a sub I mean I have to be dominant in a lot of parts of work. I'm employer, I'm a business partner. Like so I don't know if it's like so, like what would you think for you? So you have to keep whatever your persona is right, So if you're a boss, you do what you have to do. But everybody needs to break, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, so I get to have this break for myself. I don't have to explain. I can trust it's taken care of.

I'm good, I'm intentional, I'm mindful. There's no question about what I'm doing. And I do this in this part of my life, in this professional space that i'm in, this boss space that I'm in. But when I'm in this subspace, the service space, it's the same. So it's just it's if we hear, if you're saying subspace, were you the quote unquote little letter that we heard, she ran the whole thing like a fucking so when we

even just in pre pro she was a leader of letters. Yes, the letter, the little letter, the leader of the little and I can okay, so you are a little letter yeah, with aut agude, with domination. You know what, maybe I'll be giving that too, because I'd be like, I'll do whatever you say right now, right. And I think, I mean, I think, I think. I think a lot of people in be this and it's like two sides of of your coin, right, so you have your one half that

you take and you put out. I mean a lot of people, it's like those two are balanced, Like you're whatever you do in the bedroom versus whatever you do in real life. They're like balances of each other. So it's like some people go out and they like to be dominant in real life and then secretly, behind the scenes they like to be submissive, and it's like it's

a balance. And people that I know that are less docile and real I mean or more dostile in real life, they go home and throwing a strap I mean, I mean they throw on they throw on a I just think the leather outfit and they want to beat somebody ass like because they have that dominant they just want to live out. Yeah, I don't think both like in my in my normal life, I know, I mean, I don't think I'm very simistic. I mean I do like when just and it would be like I'm gonna take

you here to eat. That's like the relinquishing a power. I think, No, that's no. Where am I going? What time you have to be there? Wait? Wait, you know what I mean? Okay, all right? I think we like trust men, we very rarely like I don't know. I think this is like this modern day woman ship where niggas like don't get as assertive anymore. I love I eat that sheet? What you think? Really do I have to wear? What kind of clothes do I have to put on you? You ask that, you know, because like

you know, like okay, what type of place? How do I have to dress? You know what I mean? And then you choose your outfit like it's I'll be sometimes like FaceTime depending like if it's not a few first dates like that's just how stubby I am. And some niggas are learning that I'm sucked with like Okay, this bitch is asking for her, not for me, like like this, and then I'll change them. Sorry I'm ridiculous, but it helps to put you in that headspace though, or the

evening that's to come. Like even if um, you know some people they have a routine that they have to prepare for when they're with their partner, with their dom and setting up everything right, having all of your assignments out, having all of the tools and toys that you have presented so when they're they're or do that, yeah, or setting up their stuff for them what like like a sarcuterie words for it, just like I lay out the

dial thos but push Yeah, everything is arms. So yeah, it's just convenient and it puts that starts like the while are you doing? Is like, this is what I'm focusing on. This is what matters right now, and it gets you excited. And are you guys that face of your company by the way, like do people know it's yours and they just know limit Luxe brand people when they interact the people? Okay, because I'm like now people. Of course there was also and we'll get into it,

there was masks. There were masks because it's also about how comfortable people feel as well too. But whenever you interact with us though, well let's get it through guys. This comes from Vice. It kind of also uh weaves into the conversation that we just had. Um. But Vice wrote an article on how to discuss your deepest, darkest desires and kinks with your partner. UM. Discussing our innermost fantasies can be scary, but they can also help unlock

a whole new world of pleasure. Um. According to the two thousand fifteen Sexual Exploration in American study Trusted Source, more than of sexually act of adults do role playing, while more than are into actually being tied up and spanked. Meanwhile, another survey also found that even in cases where people didn't have the opportunity to explore their desires, nearly half

of them were at least interested in it. UM. One of the I kind of want to go through these uh tips really quick on kind of of course, how to have this conversation with your partner, build up a comfort level which is ironic. Let me tell y'all, motherfucker's I said on this podcast every week and talk about, like, you know, all my little nasty shit. And this is actually, for some odd reason, a place where I like stumble with my partners. I even just shared about my fucking

pegging gang bang. Apparently I'm really bad with description and opening up and feeling comfortable sharing the things that I've done with other people with my partners, and I didn't realize it until a recent conversation when he was like, did you even have fun? Did you enjoy it? Like you're just skipping over all the details, like how did

you get there? Was there a conversation before, Like he likes to vividly hear how I talked about things hop on this motherfucker podcast and tell hundreds of thousands of people how I spread the booda cheeks open, and then when I want my partners and actually asking about my sexual experiences, whether it's from the past, whether it's recent, even when I'm at the sex club the next morning, when he wants to know how I feel about, like, well,

did you enjoy it? Was anything bothering you? I mean, like it was kind of thing we're used to thinking that if we describe sexual experience to somebody, they're gonna get jealous. Yeah, j you dealt with for so long that it's even hard to bring it uppist. All right, It's the same thing, like even when it comes to like like which I've had conversations to people about this before, but even like polyamory, it's like sometimes you'll you'll be with like a partner who's like Hey, I want to

hear about, like your sexual experience with another partner. So yeah, I mean I've talked to like partners, probably amorously about it and in describing, like sometimes your partners like, hey, like tell me how it was with the other person, and I'm like, uh, And it's like and it's on one side, you don't you worry about the whole jealousy concept, but then you also worry about like I don't want this person to feel like I did more for this

person than I did for you. But some people get really turned on though, And I think that's what it is, knowing if your partner really wants to note or if they're going to use it later on to throw it in your face. And luckily, like I found a partner who is she wants to hear everything she wants like all the details, like everything, and it's amazing. Does she

want it during sex? No? Before like sometimes before, But sometimes it will lead into sex, like the talking about it will get that's both turned on, and then it will lead right into some more I like it during which is disgusting. You want you want your man to tell you how he sucked another woman while he's sucking you one hundred person, I would be like, so m M. I would say, in most open relationships of mine, the sex is happening. When I say of mine, I mean

like the that I've just had in the past. Most of the stories I don't want to hear because I'm away from you and it's making me feel a little jealous that you got to have this great time, And like that's just me being honest. I sometimes do feel like, not at like seriously angry jealousy, but I know how emotional I am, so it could happen. So sometimes when I'm fucking or about the suck. Indeed, are you some pussies? Everyone like? So when she was dealing with a good

did it blow my hat up? Help me the best? Psy? Even if it wasn't, you know, because sex sometimes, like I like that descriptive, imaginative ship and when you are in a relationship with someone who's open or like to have three simms or whatever, I just love piping it up tran sex. You know what that might be? Well, I want to talk about are you talking about that?

One of the other things that I did also, and I think he goes into maybe feeling judged was actually One of the other advice is to set your boundaries so informed. Enthusiastic concepts experts emphasize that it is key in taking your conversation to the next level. They said, it's important to understand that fantasies aren't necessarily what we want in reality. That's why they're called fantasies. Like well, and I actually really kind of still want a gang bang,

and I think it. I moved up to maybe one in like three niggas three four, Like I moved up to like really kind of wanted but not really what it's like tow but now I'm at like three potentially four. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying that talking about. No, that's a threesome when there's two. Okay, I'm talking about my fantasy of a gang bang. It's something that I don't know what I watched. I want it, but I really

don't know if I really want it. If you're like Homogorn, let me talk to Lambeau if he knows what nigga, because he'd be telling me all the time, where is this going? Yeah, but that's work stuff. I don't I don't I don't want a gang bang with niggas. With Timberland boots with felonies. I want a sensual gang bang. You just said, let me get up my my hoodass. Nigga. See if hoodass thinks to come gang baby now, I don't see the problem. No, Now I'm thinking of fucking

Wesley Pipes with the Timberland boots. And that's not because is that what it's giving ganger like like like want gangbangers to gang baby b because they would really be on theme and that and that's the perception most people have about gang bang seeing that's the thing. No, I want a gag bang. Well, I'm kissing like I was, stay aerial typeing your type. Many watches that type of porn. That that's gay porn. That's not my gangbang. I don't want a gay gag bang. I want to canda. My

gang bang fantasy first off, is very sensual. I want us all to be kissing, and I want massages. I want like sixhand massage. Nigga. Sorry, last week, I'm watching you fucking dude in the acid. That's not too far. Now, he's just talking about some bood. Even the ain't no hood nigger. He got a job, Okay, I think got a w two. Yeah, let's say. Yeah, I know, because he was like, so y'all been doing your taxes together

and ship years old? Never all right, Well, well I wanted to be sensual, but I don't really want it. So here's the thing too. I play it with toys like I have, uh my man and then two deal doughs, and it's like something that I have to let him

know I'm fine with just the deal does. I don't need bodies attached, Like this is the fantasy in my mind, and I enjoy when we play it out in like a rope play scenario, but realistically, I don't know if I really want it, but I enjoyed that I can express that this is a fantasy of mine, but I don't think I really wanted in reality. But then that's why I said, it's elevating to where now maybe it maybe maybe it maybe a possibility. It's elevating to where

now you might actually take today. I mean, it's getting into listen. That's why I'm about to have fun at All Star Week, and I'm hoping some some of my old niggas. I just want to join me and this nigga, and then that's how it goes I did. Let it be known. If I get to that, it needs to be with niggas that I know have good dicks that could please me. I don't. I don't want to niggle whose dick can't get up to do it if you can't have it the way you want. I wanted the

way I want it. So I play on the on the West Coast and then this nigga here, you know what I mean, the tires, I won't wert you in gang bangs? Have you had one? And well, okay, so I've been. I've been that it was different. No, no, no, not even I've been. I've been. I've been aside from the pegging, like just went like four women and me like and it was like the opposite. It was like a reverse gang bang in a sense. Oh I love reverse gang bang porn. Those are the funniest, not giving

yellow jackets. Sorry oh sorry, sorry, I love yeah, but not enough but they all kind of but it was real rape, but it was a gang bang on Travis. Sorry, sorry, this is the show. Yeah, yours now with damn? I forgot where I was going. What was the question? Oh with the women that you gang bang with another man? Was there ever like an issue where like maybe men got nervous. There was a performance thing like have you

seen that happen? Oh? Yeah, Like and there was one woman she literally was like I don't know, ma she was. You could tell she wasn't new to this, Like so she was the whole time. She's like that definitely, Like she came in. She knew everybody. She came in and she was like she was like, I need come, like right now. And like so she had she had one dig in one hand, one dick in the other hand, somebody in her mouth, and somebody and the whole and it was and it was a line of guys. It

was a lot. It was like maybe twenty guys. And she's like she's like she's like she's making him come, and then like next she's like yelling out next like and swapping him. She was running the whole thing. She was running the whole thing. And she's like and this is one guy who was like why is she not here? There was just and there was this one guy who was like sucking her and she's just like she's like I need to come. I need you to come right now.

And he's like and he's like trying or whatever, and the guys just started making fun of him and they're like, dude, she said, coming He's like I said, I'm trying, man, and he's going like everybody's laughing or whatever, and she's like, come on, yo, like what are you doing? Like she was really running the whole thing, and I don't know

if I can handle that. And I think period she was expelling these guys too, just had them was they would come in and she would send him out the door and be like all right next to Like, if you had to put a number on it, lady, on how many you could take? If you like, what do you think your max could be? Oh? No, the way I'd be taking this and round I could probably do after. I could probably do five after Charlotte at the party, Oh yeah, you don't. Just don't do that. I think

was a good regular size. It wasn't big. It was big. I mean, I like big. That was a really big but I thought maybe it was a regular side thick. But it was a big one. It was like a horse stick. I did not take a horsetick zillough it was it was. It was pretty big. So it wasn't like not tell everyone you saw me get egged woman. That was right that I did? That was it a week ago? And Manby was talking about be abortioned. I was like me and he stopped. I was like, I

did too. Well, let's get into real quick before we get into the high protocol dinner, Let's get a sex tip teeth. Let's start from you and then let's get to your mail. On a sex tip. It could be for a woman, it could be for man, it could be for a sub, it could be for dumb. What would your sex tip be? In the bedroom? Dating advice could be maybe one two if you got it. Since y'all are you know out there sex? You like style people? I would say, um, never be ashamed of what you want.

If you have to be ashamed of it, then that's not something you truly want. So on what's yours? So however you want your experience to be. If it's something you like, If you don't like it, to speak up about it because your experience is yours and you own it. M hm. I felt like we have to snap to that, but you know what I mean? What about you? Malt um? My tip would be to treat sex like a Treat sex like a um A learnable action. So like study it,

like study sex. I do make sure you like, like as a guy, like I got really good at even pussy because I studied, like I looked up videos and I read, I looked at things and I asked women like how do you like this? Nothing, And I was learning like advanced. I was reading. I was literally reading books like about it, like and this was in high school, like I was. I was school because because for me, it's always about like if I do something, I want to be like the best at it, Like that's just

always been my goal. So like whethern't I'm in my business stuff or whatever. So when it came to sex, I was like, yo, I don't want any woman I would ever say anything bad about me, like not ever. So I made sure I study and I learned and I listened and like and and that's another part of like learning is like also including in learning is listening to your partner, like actually asked and what they like.

It's okay to do that. Like there are some people who come into a sexual thing and be like, oh, I made the last woman come or I made the last dude. Not real quick, I'm gonna do the same thing to this guy and they A lot of people don't have the same desires, So be okay with asking your partner like what they actually want, like how they actually like, you know, things, or because I mean, some people they sensitive in certain areas. Some people just don't

like certain things, and you just never know. I want to just add to that. Not only don't be don't be afraid to ask your partner their desires, don't be afraid to share yours. Like before I even sucking fuck anyone, I let it. I'll want I need way more than one round. I'm sorry if you're like one of those guys that are one and done and get real tired after one round and can't get back up or take you a while, I'm just not even going We're just not gonna go there. Like I know, I like rounds.

I like to go along quite a long time, Like I enjoy like making you nuts and getting you right back card to meetly after and going back at it right again. So if that's not something you you think that's doing too much, and you think that's some superhero type of ability, then you're not superhero nu to get into this listing. So um, there's that. So let's get

into finally, guys, the horrible decision of this week. We are talking about FED, which is the formal erotic dining UM or the high protocol dinner that I spoke about maybe a month ago now on this podcast. But let's get into it. So you ran the whole night, and you ran the little letters, if we can start there. I don't know much about the little letters. Let's start by talking about what this means for every letter, alright, so and why that choice of words? Alright, So it's funny.

I literally spoke about this so so um every we wanted it to be accessible and we wanted to be as inclusive as possible. So when it comes to high protocol events, a lot of times people are aware of it and they're curious, but I can't because I don't know this or I've never tried that. I've never even heard of high protocol. What's that normally like? If someone was saying that because I sent her a video? Is

it like a dinner? Now, that's what I would think if I heard high high, Because protocol can have levels. It could be low, moderate, or high. And when you have that type of situation or event, there's UM certain rules that have to be followed, um, the way you speak, the way you move, your manners and different things like that and so different people. We wanted it to be open to different people within the lifestyle because you run

the gamut of so many things. And then you didn't want someone to say, hey, everyone is going to be a submissive. Everyone doesn't identify that way. Someone can be a bottom, someone can be a slave, you can be a pet, you can be a doll. And you don't want to say doms, because not everyone's a dom. You have a master, you have a mystery, you have a puppeteer, like there's so many different things a handler. So we

wanted it to be open. So wherever you were in your journey, however you identified and what boils down to it. What it boils down to is service. If you're a big letter, you are receiving service. If you were a little letter, you were functioning from a space of did you make that up? Or has that came No, it's actually been used in different because you know, researching what's important, even when you just went down the list. I don't

think i've heard dollar doll pup. We heard from h when we had the pup play on like the pup play guys during COVID, But doll and puppeteer can you jump into those that's not my area I've attended. So, like, you know, there's dollification right um special shout out to uh stk Events and House of stk Um. So they would have like a series of different things TK like the sty no no no s c k SK like Masta mast Lola and um served black j black um.

So someone came in and they were talking about dollification and I didn't know, like there's so many different levels of dollification and so based on a type of doll. And then so the maker can be called like a puppeteer because there's like the puppeteer style. I don't remember the name and stuff like that. So it's a whole world. And I was just like wow. So it said that it is a sexual fetish um not simply the arousal to dolls or someone that wants to look like one.

It's when someone is attracted to dolls and figurines and it takes on various forms involving animated dolls or you know, uh, sorry, it could be it could be. It could be in animation, animation, sexual contact with the doll, fantasies with multiple dolls, or transforming a person into one. And I also wanted to add to that, the fetish of it um is actually where the partner is transformed into technically a doll, either through makeup, man or isms, or even plastic surgery. So

there's a lot of different things to that. Yeah, every crazy that, even dullification is not something. So when we first started the pod, uh, if you guys go back to you know, maybe start from episode one, maybe through about episode a hundred and fifty or so, we did a kink of the week and learning through all of like the paraphilias and all of the things associated with kinks and fetishes. I don't even think we've ever talked about dullification, So you're teaching me. So that was the

little letter, big letter breakdown. But let's get into what what someone would have been been um expecting from attending, because I'll be honest with you, there was a lot of rules by the way guys sent out, so the same way we have rules going to the sex club where it's really all about consent, the rules for the

protocol dinner went way deeper then I can expect. So can we talk about maybe what those rules were to be followed during the dinner on your on your h it would have table like you know, table manners and stuff, because we did have a manual. You had there was a manual, the manual how like, wait, the manual do you send it out in a p Yes, the manual sessions when people are booking a ticket or finding this right like or like let's say that they wanted to find you at some point in time, Um, do you

think they're expecting that? Like, dude, do you feel like you're advertising it that way that price? Let you know, it's not a cheap people dinner. I think people search it out because it's something they're they're curious. But like like you see these things like in white communities, but you see like movies or whatever like that white people

do it. Like. The whole reason we even started doing this was because in planning our destination trips, we had like I have found this clip of a group from like, um, Europe that did it, and they actually have like like

people like they would. It was a little weird because I thought it was a little racist, but it was like all these white people and they have black people like laid out on tables covered in food, and it was like this and it was like everyone was in mask and it was like this whole high protocol keenpie dinner. Right afterwards it led into a play party there, and so I was like, yo, I would love to do this without the race looking thing, but like this would

be cool to have on our trips. And so we were like, all right, well, instead of like trying to planet for a trip, let's try to do it beforehand so we can know how the work that goes into it and make sure that we can get it. And because you guys all both talked about price, I'm curious not everybody else's to ranges. It could be a diffra story. What's going to be there? Location? And it was one seven five and then and then there wasn't add on too, so there was an at if you wanted to stay

for the play party. So there were wasn't add on. Now for a free fixed meal, that's pretty average, and I mean you were getting steak and fish. Yeah, it was, it was and pretty much unlimited. And then it was that was bartending, and that's the other thing. So much work that goes into it, like special shout out to our chefs, um from the house of my family. I love them. So who and Dee d you could be

like a wedding planer. Really this I'm always alone right here, This one right here is the most organized person ever. Like I mean, she's like, I'm like, yeah, so what are we gonna do about Like what are the prices on this? She's like, no, I have a whole spread sheet is in the Google document and it's like, what are your two different roles in um the event that she planned even in the I want to get into the event too if we can. So I'm a marketer.

I have a web development company, and so I do like a lot of the marketing advertising, and she does a lot of the back in legis six stuff, the accounting and basically got to be closed that came together for this business because it's because literally again you know, as you mentioned, like I'm very behind the scenes. That's just my style. And um, I said, you know, no, let's have a conversation. And You're like blah bla blah blah. He was like, you know, well, I was kind of

interested in the same thing. So and it's literally so weird how we would talk about something and it's like something that was literally here, and it goes vice versa, so we literally feed off of each other. I want to get it to the night. I want to get it so if people can expect I want to get into what were the rules on the manual? Mind you? And I only want to do that because when I first walked in, there were there, there was still setting up going on, but the little letters could not even

look at me. They had to look down. They couldn't address me until, like unless I said something. Let's get into the rules of the night and and what the little letters were expected to do, what their roles played, and then also how we aim and as big letters later of course with a big letter for the for the evening. So within the protocols, UM, they had to avoid eye contact. They had to make sure that they knew how to address the person that they were speaking

to and how they wanted to be addressed. UM you had to use a gesture to initiate conversation, to ask a question. UM. You had a position to wait at attention.

UM you had to um stand as a serving trade right. UM. One of the things that we didn't include, UM, was kneeling, because kneeling is something that's very um many people have very strong feelings towards it, and we wanted to be respectful because oh, so there are some people so kneeling is a symbol of your submission, right, and so some people don't do that with any and everyone, right, And

so we wanted to be respectful of that. Because although this is an event that people are experimenting for the night, this is something that people live there, and we wanted to be respectful of that. So even in our spelling of house, we didn't spell it like the regular way because there are people who have houses and we wanted

to be respectful of the lifestyle. And so this is also yeah, so like a house of woo or house of s ck, right, and so the way we spelled it in the yeah, that's how we spelled it in the manual. But you said you want to be respectful pieces of the houses, I'm confused. So it was just, um, we didn't want you to think that we are the house of limitless luck, because that is not who we are. Um. And also making sure that people were aware that you know,

and it's also to a learning opportunity as well. Um. So we had a trainer come in UM and we had virtual training sessions. We had to training sessions for the for the for the little, little and the big letters were able to attend to if they wanted. So unruly nerd girls special shout out to her. Um. Yeah, and a lot of the conversations we had with the rolls back Coco. So as you see, like you'll hear a lot of names come out. This was a win for us all, like we all had something that we

could contribute to it and everyone being there. So the little letters following the rules, all they knew was they had to dress up in sexy black tasteful. What happens if they disobeyed that was that was a fun part of the night. Even I got in trouble. But like's what's an example of how you could like like, what how did you get in trouble? Tell us that? So, um, if they made a mistake, right, so let's say when you're serving the food, you're not supposed to crush your

hands over someone's food. So if the disciplinarian saw a mistake, she could ding her bell. So we has Mrs Adasa so I was the role of major Domo. So I'm the one that's making sure that everything flows. And so they had a cue of two dings or one thing to come into the room or exit the room. Okay, like if they were amazing, special shout out to the little because they were great. They were so serious. We had, Yeah,

we had twelve little letters. We had about six servers of the house that you know, just helped with different things. And we had the kitchen staff, and Coco was our host from Pretty Robes, and we had our special guests and me and Me and Coco actually shared and we had the only male little letter of the evening. And so even when she wanted her plate warmed up, he had to take it and go get it warmed up. I finished my drink and he would you like another drink?

And he had to go serve and fill my drink every time I emptied it. Like when you think of service, it's what can I do to make this easier? But did you get to ask me? So what happened when you crossed over? So I didn't get to get it, but I literally they reminded me. Um, they reminded me that I owe them So if we got what oh so Um, I was to get some spanks, you know, because if they messed up, I'm responsible for them. So

if they mess up, it's on me. So if they get five dings from the bell, that's something that's in the bank for me. Um. That's a lot of fun. Watched everybody, she watched every likely she saw anybody making it, she would hit her bell and everybody like and and it just kept the sting at the end of the table five things. I know, it sounds like a lot. They literally had to be with their arms behind their

back at some point. If you didn't get the right gesture of putting your arm behind your back during that's a day like she was catching everything, or if you made eye contact. And we also had other people watching as well, so the host was watching sir who was also watching. And it's just but it's also to make sure that everyone is okay. Because they also had a

co word like orange. If you need to just go away from anything, you don't need to explain you want to go, take a break, you want to go like relax your feet. They had a whole they had um, they had a whole room upstairs to themselves and you know, for some people this was their first time go into anything like this, so nerves were there, and I saw

you they had a whole photo shoot upstairs. They like they literally built this community, so like if someone was messing up or they weren't sure, they were able to help each other. And that's what it was about. It's safe enough to mess up if you do, but it's serious enough to work to try your best. And also the dinner was wonderful. But then you guys also put on a show, so Sir Marvelous Um and Siphon were performers as well as you had a burlesque dancer, which

was phenomenal. Uh, that was my first time actually seeing burlesque, especially in that setting. I actually also just went and saw burlesque last night at Bathtub Gin and it was wonderful. I only got to see one act. There's about four or five of the night, so I do want to go back to see the whole show. But burlesque is something that is still very sexual but not at the same time. Um. And so that actually she did perform I want to say what during dessert. She had two performances.

She did during letters pay for a ticket, Yes, imagine because they also they enjoyed a meal as well too, you know they did they ate before us. Yeah, so there's a whole like it's like two sides of the experience going on. Um, if you had to pick, which one do you think would be your favorite? Obviously a little letter really, I'm because they had to wear all black.

I specifically wore black as well, and they all had a for you no, no, no, I don't know what the best part when we were all black, but to show that I was standing with them in the service right, and everyone had a burnt orange rolls on. No, it's no. People take service seriously, right, and that's what I wanted to talk to. Your service is important and you can

do it without sex. So that realm of the little letters were all experiencing just a sense of something that they received pleasure although there was not sex going on during the dinner. They were happy, they were they were amazing, amazing. How many um of your guests turned over for the play party? Was it? Everyone? Did you feel like? I'm not gonna lie. There was some good looking people too, and the men were all dappered in their fucking suit and the women had gowns down to ye, that was

you did the gowns. Yes, so you might have a gown, but you would also have a course of course that yeah, they had share, but you didn't have a braw on. So it was like they were beautiful. They were super beautiful. I didn't even expect it, to be honest, Like before I even spoke, like, there was a moment where I was at the doorway where everyone was there, and I was just looking up just like everyone is so beauty beautiful, like you know what they say. Understand we had the

cocktail hour outside. That's kind of what the sentiments were like. So then let me ask where did you guys bet? Did you guys ask people to send photos? Like how do you get such a good looking crowd? Because when people think of sex and play parties, they think, oh, it's gotta be a whole bunch of unattracted people there this like and every there was like how do you deny people someone if they're not only evaluated? Was mindset that we had a vetting form? What kind of the

betting form? So some of the questions were, um, there were some qualities you wanted to know, like how important these things were? In your life, travel, kicking, respects, uh what else? We had respect, we had integrity, we had um being, discretion, We had discretion as one of those. So how do you value these things and how do they play a part in your life? Did you deny some people just go around? Yeah? Some people didn't really,

what do you say? Yeah, we did because we also based off of reputation, Like we know a lot of people in the community, so we know that like, like you know, how some people may be they don't really have the best reputation any regard um. Yeah, they may have like validated consent multiple times in their past at other events or play parties. And the good thing is that you guys are doing this event as people that

like have been around the block. And I think a lot of people that may just want to throw a party, Like I know there are a lot of like sex parties going on that you know, they may be new to the game. I think it's good when someone seasoned and they've at least had their way around. It's kind of like with escorting, right, Like they'll share their resources together to make sure people are safe. Yeah, and asking

questions about people. That's another part of the vetting process too, and in the in the form, it also told you what some of the things were, like how do you feel about UM rules about your speech and stuff like that, and if you felt like this wasn't something for you, It's okay, this space wasn't for you. I also like to I know y'all are probably listening, like, oh my god, knew you're because all the cool ship people flew in

for this. So as we were at the table talking, there was a couple that came up from Philly, but he was from Philly, the partner may have been from Atlanta or I don't know. Then there was someone else from Texas. Like, but if you guys gonna do UM dinner because you mentioned travel agency and travel you guys doing them in different cities. Yea. So we've actually started working on a plan for a countrywide tour, even a country right to a little bit of a bit out

of the country. You want to do London. So we're gonna we have we have some dates already, we've already liked planned out some things we have like d C Houston, atlant should they follow your UM Instagram which we'll put that in the description. What is there an emails. There's some sort of sort of newsletter that someone needs to sign up for to get well, we have on our website, which is Limitless lux ls dot com, and it'll be

like a newsletter. Sign up on there as well, sign up for um and we're kind of doing all these I need New York to happen me in well, so we're gonna do. We're gonna do New York again for our anniversary like every November. We're probably gonna do that. And we're way to November, so we're yeah, yeah, that's

gonna be the first one in June Teams, June A Teams. Yes, okay, yeah, we're gonna As I would tell you, London is one of the only cities that I consider doing like uh, like I show just like something like a pop up just anything, because when I look at like the demo of people out of the country that like, you know, funk with us, and by us, I just mean like black people in a lifestyle in the space and the podcasting entertainment whatever I see Toronto, London and even London.

More like, after after the last podcast episode that I was here on I got a lot of comments from people from London. People are like, oh my gods, need to come to London and do like a presentation or like because the guys out here just don't get it in public. I mean, I got so much coming Americans, bros. I bought a dress at UM just throwing because I went to France. UM. I was with my mom and I said, I said, maybe I could wear this for

this wedding. I said, well, maybe it's too sexy, and the lady said, but maybe you're from it's not you know, no for sure though, No, when we out, I would from my homegirls. She lived in London, and she was like, you Americans. I hate how y'all dressed. Like there's even a difference between how the women over there dressed a lot more classy. They cover up here, everything's messing see through and y'all gonna get these nipples that they say

they're like sexy. Time for the Red Light District. We just we just you go out right when you go out on Tuesday, like Starbucks, that's you know, we're gonna wear our messine heels. Star Because it's crazy because I was watching this clip about women and how they dressed, and it's like, okay, where do we draw the line

from feminism to where like mit you do anybody? We all want to say like, oh of course, dress how you please, but like they do like sometimes I see just like damn no, I mean, my friend get on me because I'll put on a dress that's a club dress, but be like girl wearing flip flops that makes it a day dress. And she literally my friend be coming for me because she'd be like girl that is a whole club dresser. If you put on a denim jacket and as long as you add sneakers or flip flops

to it, no, it's for the days. Whatever you want. Like if you don't like it, don't look you know how do be talking ship? Because people talk to you about me. It's just in my blood, you know what I'm saying, Like I don't know how not to do that. My mama and I spent the last week together traveling and we couldn't go through that airport without talking ship. I mean we were literally in sweat and we were like,

look at this bit. Why not? But anyway, obviously people are gonna try to click on the description, but tell people where to find and you and also like how to access these lists because I'm sure like they really want to step by step nigga because we go and

also am I able to share? Would I be able to share any of like or could you send me something that's not exactly what was sent out, but I would love to share kind of even what some of those rules were for the evening um without given too much maybe not, you know, maybe overall, like just how to treat people like I don't know if we could work on just showing people like kind of what some of the rules were for that evening. Oh no, I

know the manual. That's why that I don't want to put it all out there, but just like the kind of how you had to show up as a person or as a partner. Mind you, there were little letters that went there solo, so this is not an event that you have to go to and have a partner. So they literally will match you with a big letter

for the night. By the way, like I went as a big letter single and I got Yeah, you guys match people up well to you, Like, I think it was because we had the betting process and we had the trainings and so from what we were able to get this this would be this person would blend with this person, and some may have requested because they've known each other, they've known each other something like that. So

it all just worked out like it's it was beautiful. Well, I think you guys sound like you have Was that your first that was our first one? I think it was like a great process and I think it could only go out from here. I need you to use that same venue too. It was nice y'all got some different venue like it was put together so well. The price of the ticket, you guys could definitely go up with it. I'd be telling I started, I want to cut we gotta go tomorrow. I'll be telling Daniel that.

And it's a w like the experience that I experienced that night. I want to do it again. Um. I would love to throw my own and be a part of it. So maybe we could everybody could also coordinate that for people to let a group and they want to have a personal one, wish that's what you gotta do. This is random, but I was in Central Park the other day and I've seen them doing this baby shower with like the t P and a little cloud pillows, and I was like, Oh, that's cute, and what like

like the TP cloud, What the cloud? What cloud? Pillows aloud? Pillow? Sorry, I didn't hear that cloud prussion? How did every episode? She ended up saying, this guy, I don't even know how to work a long story short. When the thing was done, because I was literally saying I was playing with the dog, I was like, damn, I wanna suck. They set the whole thing up. Now they got to

bring it back. They left company, came in, took everything, and I was like, wow, they just built this experience in a part for you, like literally like catering cater where they do picnics, design picnic, They set up for you and you just show up. No, y'all need a

cater a home. On my TV show that I did, one of the episodes that had was a cannabis episode about curated Canadas, right, like how they basically do this like four sex like you ain't gonna hold you if you do another season on your show, this has to be an episode if you guys, like it would be not like din and the way that you have the performers which you have to wear. I don't know if y'all can allow cameras in it, maybe it'll be like not a real one because we had we had a videographer.

You did have a videographer when we filmed sex Cells and basically what we did was, I mean, sorry, not sex sells NFFW. And just that night Daniel told everybody, like you might be on TV. Some people wear masks and didn't um. But I think the cool thing about it is like when people get to step in and see that world, you know what, because like talking about it is even exciting just hearing about this experience through like three people sitting here, but to be able to

watch it is like, holy sh it. But no, I mean, y'all all have to talk about the money though. That's one thing that we do try to that we try to make sure that people understand is that this isn't necessarily an event for only experienced people. Some people get intimidated by it. They're like, they're like, oh man, it's probably just a lot of people here who've been in a life stuff for the great things explain the first time.

And so that was and so vetting doesn't necessarily mean that we're trying to make sure if you're experiencing that it's just making sure that you're a decent person and we don't have to worry about you, you know, acting crazy. I'm not gonna lie. You're listening to this episode before we get out of your look right with that part. Um, If you're listening to this episode, I would say add this to your bucket list, whether you were single or with a partner. Um. Just I was in awe the

whole night. Um at the professionalism. The food was great, the drinks, thank you, Mel, we're rolling in. But also to be in a room with people where you know there's no judgment you're you're you're in this lifestyle or kink space or you know, whatever you're into. No one in that in the in the home would would judge you. It was It was literally liberating just to be in a group of very like the professionals, like they all

have jobs. But also then you come in and it's like everyone has known each other for years, but just through the cocktail hour. By the time we said at the table, the conversations were flowing like we had known each other the whole time. So it was add this to your bucket list. Um. And again, you can't stay after for a play party, or you can just seep into being in a lifestyle where you're getting aroused and pleased. I'm talking about this hungry. It was. It was amazing,

It was amazing. So what are your handles if you want to share them? You know, limitless lux l u X right, excuse me, lucky l s at the end again, that will be in the description of this episode. You want to share, um, well, my handle again from the last time, Scorpio King you gave your handle? Yeah, oh yeah, and it was blowing him up. Why did you did you get any pussy from coming onto the show? You don't want to say, yeah, all right, but but I got to meet a lot of and that's that's another thing,

like meeting people that's nothing. That kind of gave me an idea for this was that I was just meeting a lot of people through like my d ms that were just saying like, how there's such a scarcity of like keenk events in other places that you might We're from New York. I mean, we live in New York. So we're like, oh every weekend and so now and there's nothing to do. People come up to my friends

want to know. And I listened to the show and I say, bro, I don't even talk about And I'd like to do it a rich people's mansions and have orgies, but it's so curated, and I would say the community. You know, I'm damn there and everybody my friend. I'll be having lunch and ship with them and then I

go and let them. Like the people that have contact me were like like in all these other place around the country, they're just like, oh my god, there's nothing like that here, Like we don't have like I wish boys wouldn't there be And yeah, I mean people people in Chicago, people and people are just like it just doesn't they don't do it in those places like that Detroit, like nobody does these events like that, and so people are like, can you please bring that here? Bring the hair,

bring their hair, bring their hair. So it's like it's such a need for it that we were like, yeah, we have to do something like this, And so original idea was the destination trip where everybody could just come to you know, what you'all need to do when people are like doing like pre orders for books and ship like that, I think y'all should definitely do that. Per city, put a tentative date, put the handle on it, location. That's Um, what is it like t b dB D

and shee how many you get? I would do that, you know what I'm saying, because they could be begging so much. Okay, we'll pay up, hope. Um, I already know. Oh I looked at it, and we just do we do our live shows and we I just kind of know what a little bit something. Um. And then I'm really good friends with the sex club that we go to in Brooklyn operating and making sure things run seamless and paying for talent for the evening. Catering was their

security that night. We did have people that we're just managing candidate that has a big nigga. Yeah, but it was it was beautiful. I want to thank both of you guys. Were thanking you guys again. If you guys are interested, please follow That's at Limitless Lux with a E L S on Instagram and then go to the website as well that those will all be in the description of this episode. Um, and sorry if you're not in New York that you don't get to experience cool

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Cocktails Dirties Discussions Podcast Medina Monro. That was such a great intro. Hello everybody, I know you've been waiting for me to come back and here I am. No. I don't think they've been waiting. I don't think they've been waiting. I said, are you getting cute? You said no, and bit you look cute, bitch. This is just my hair is being molded so I can like have my pixie. I have no makeup on. Bitch, I am not cute.

No one told you to come in with all. I don't even know what I was channeling my innert Ain't Jemima happy black? You know, because it's Black History Months. I didn't want to say it. Be careful. You can't say it as a white woman. Sho do me? I have not happy Black History Months? Everybody. Um, I hope that you all enjoyed your Valentine's Day with your nigga or your side nigga, or your sugar daddy or just

the nigga. You fucking what up? Um? To start this episode, though off, we're gonna get into some icebreakers that Medina has ill. So what's the first one. Let's let's get into one. Oh, this is so perfect for you because you're gonna have such a crazy answer. What's wrong with having sex on the first day? What's wrong with it? What are the wrong things about having sex? That's the

wrong thing. I'm the wrong person to ask that because all the niggas that I've actually ended up being with long term or have even got connectional bonds to which we poked the first night. But would you find anything any wrong things that happened with that? Um? You know, you know which We both have these sexually liberated podcasts, So it's one of those two where we're all adults now,

you know what I mean. So I think that when you were in your teens in your twenties, the idea of having sex on the first night, you know, it was a bad thing. But I think we're adults now, and I think even men know that women like to fun just as fucking much as they do. And if you turned me on and we vibe it to me, I think if I want to suck you on the first night, that's that's a good thing because that means I'm really into you. Is your phone ringing? Oh no?

It was like what is going on here? That? Yeah? That was no, that was my nigga, y'all know, he got the little special uh vibrated ring my bad and it was right here. But I'm like, I was like, it's why are you looking like that? My bad job? It was my nigga calling me nasty um um I had something. I mean, what would your answer be to that? Though? Like we are grown? We are we are, and sex should be. We just have the sex and everything can just carry on how it would go if we didn't

have sex, right. But one thing that I'm learning is and I've had relationships that started with we we fucked on the first date, but that's not the norm. And I feel like there's a dynamic switch up when you have sex with the man to quit, even not even too quick, just when you give up, when you have some, when you give up them draws. There's this switch that I really don't like. And I try to hold on, try to hold onto it as long as I can.

It's almost like before you have sex, they're so interested, they're courting there because they're lying. Once they get the pussy, A lot of you baby wanted me, Bro, you gotta deal with you gotta deal with a man who actually is not pressed on the pussy. The thing I feel like, even if they're not pressed on the pussy, there's still a power change. Don't lie. Don't they know because you don't know that they pressed on the pussy, but they're only showing up as their representative to get the pussy.

So once they have the pussy, if you see a man switches up in his behavior or even in his courtsmanship or how he's showing up to you, even on the telephone through text messages, that's because he got what he wanted. He's not a girl man. He probably wasn't even looking for a relationship. He probably was only looking for the pussy, and because you gave it to him.

So there is that scenario. But then there's also just like men want pussy, not that they just want your pussy, but they do want but they're always motivated by that, whether they just want to funk or they still want to be with you. There is a slight change, and I don't like to change. I try to hold onto it as long as I can, but they really don't

be that long. Um Okay, the next one you catch your friends partner cheating on them in public, would you tell your friend that their partner is cheating, so I wouldn't say your nigga is cheating. I would say I saw your nigga out with this person. Here's the picture. Do you know who this woman as