Ep 246: Sensual BDSM & Fire Play (Ft. Sir Marvelous & Syphen)

She well, I'm weezy f lady. We have two guests here. We have another couple in the building, um, which I think we love having couples on the specially. I think they had a bad couple of I don't think couples are harder to come by, but I think the only couple. Oh yes, the one that wanted to remove their video from YouTube. Okay, but no audio wise, that episode was fired, Like, no,

that was a great episode. Yeah, it was a great episode, but she just so And this is why I talked to our couple today and I was like, all right, so y'all know we kind of popping right. So if you have a real job, which a lot of us host do, let us know because your parents, your siblings, your co workers, your bosses will find you. UM. Well we'll see what all the kinky stuff here into UM. But without further ado, I want to introduce our guest today. We have So Marvelous who is a prodom and we

are joined today by his sub siphon UM. I'm super excited about this conversation because this is a dynamic that Wheezy and I actually recently spoke about on our Patreon UM when we were talking about so okay girl, do not I mean what we do. We were talking about RT Kelly nothing like the thing ever the conversations them from. We were watching UM and this is probably not gonna make it sound any better, but we were watching the Deuce,

which is the sex goal on next UM. And the thing that I was talking about, more so with even R Kelly, was the adults that chose to partake in those type of subdom relations with with with R Kelly, all especially being that my homegirl was one of those girls that dealt with him and she let me know, girl, I signed up for that, and it was did she get what she wanted out of it? She? Oh, she said she wanted to write the Nigga in jail, but

she knows he can't read the letter. Like she is still for like, I mean, a lot of the women that she even met, she was like, we knew what was going anyways, by the way, it wasn't about I

finally watched that documentary. I couldn't bring myself to watch it because I thought it would be too triggering for me, with like violence and ship and Mandy was saying like, oh, everybody was complicit, but a lot of the women on there, the reason I couldn't really respect it as a dumb and sub relationship is because most of them were so young and it was so much manipulation that it made it hard to look at it as his real kink.

And then they kept using his molestation and different things that happened in his life as an excuse for him having certain sexual fetishes and right, and that also is a problematic thing too, because it's just like, so we're all just sucked up in the hand because we want to get slapped. Well, That's why I enjoy conversations like this. I think a lot of times people assume that when you're into some level of b D s M, that

it stems from some traumatic experience. And so I love that we have these conversations where it's like, nah, I do it because this is actually what I do like and I'm not trying to pull something out of my childhood. This is genuinely something that pleases me. So I guess let's start off a little bit because, Um, in introducing yourself, I would love for you to explain how you are essential prodom and how you bring sensuality to b DS. Yeah.

A big part of what I do is I'm just trying to teach people that b D s M doesn't have to be as rough and painful as people perceive it to be. A lot of times, when you like, even if you were to google b D s M right now, you're gonna see what a lot of people would say, is like white people should like I'm not necessarily into that. Not saying me, I'm saying, molt. The average person is looking and looking at it and saying,

you know, that's not my cup of tea, so to speak. Um, so I try to show people that there are more pleasurable sides to it, Like you don't have to do everything so hard and so fast. You can start with central massages. You can talk with affirmations, like even when I'm spanking people, I'm giving them affirmations throughout that throughout that experience. You know what I mean, Um, you can't sit son is a bit hard affirmation you can well,

let me let me ask you that. Because for those of you watching on our YouTube channel, you may see he has a lot of things here on the table. So we have the leather flogs that we've introduced, and weezy thing is spiked that don't look there. There is a spiked flogging. There's rope for bondage, and we also have looks like a lighter. We'll talk about fireplay later as well. But I guess get into what things do you see that would be white people ship and how

have you turned that into sensual domination. Well, I don't identify let me be clear, I don't identify it as like white people ship. But that's like what you hear a lot of people say, like, especially like people of color. They like I try to google b D S m and when I saw it, I was like I saw people in garbage bags, and guy, I'm not into that. But um, I just try to show people, for example,

like these floggings right here. Absolutely I can flog somebody heart, but usually when I start with someone that is totally new, I'm going to start by just dragging it across their skin so they can feel the sensation. A lot of what we're doing an impact player, especially me, is about providing different sensations. Um with the tools that I'm using, even the spiky uh flogger that you see right there, Um, if you touch it, what you I suggest that you do?

Now you're realized it's not like it's not what you think it's it's about intimidation. I thought, yeah, actually exactly what I thought. But yeah, and what I do with that is I'm going to drive that across somebody's skin. Or I can do that. Yeah, so okay, I'll be honest. It doesn't feel as bad, but I can see like running on someone's skin. So a lot of times what I'll do is I'll put that in like some ice, so I might put it this in warm water. I'll

blindfold somebody, tie them up. You don't have them on my table as I drag it slowly across their skin, And that is a different type of sensation. You know, when you couple things with like sensory deprivation, it makes everything a lot more heightened, especially when you got somebody talking dirty in you, so you know it's I don't hold you. He loves to uh role place. So we're gonna have to hear some of those dirty times his girls here because I have, like, what did you say?

I have like a basic four line. I'm really bad at. Like sometimes I just be like yes and no, and that's what you got. Would you say it? Like? Yeah? No. She hates when I really get into my sex voice, but I think it's cute or whatever. Um well, we're gonna super dive into what a prodom is, but I do before we get into the vanilla ship, I want to talk to you about being a sub Now. A lot of women, especially inter hetero sexual relationships, show up feeling as though they have to be submissive in a

lot of in a lot of relationships. So I want to know what really identifies you as a sub more than it does just being a submissive woman in a heterosexual relationship. I got you on that. So I am not a submissive woman at all at all, in any way, shape or form. That's because this man right here special powers and it was just one night that I needed to know that he was worthy of my submission. And for me, the submission is more about it's my opportunity

to stop being in charge of everything. It's it's me being able to just free form and just be more childlike, more playful. I'm eager to please. I love knowing that, like he's turned on and he's excited and I and I'm there to help him, like reach whatever depths he wants to reach. Like that to me is like like if I get something out of him, I'm just like, yes, keep doing this. I'm gonna keep doing this whatever he wants. But I love to serve him and I love to

make him comfortable. And why don't know, I just want to start singing. Let me get to see you. On Twitter, somebody was like, there's no way in hell that a woman like listen to these lyrics we were singing it if the team were like, who would really live their life like this your dinner, You're this, doing this and that, And I'm like, but but what you just said rings

to what my last relationship just was. Um and I talked about how I didn't know like I was showing up to him so differently than I before, Like I'm pegging the motherfucker's salient. So even though I'm dominant in my workplace and a lot of my friendships and when I walk in, when I walk into a room, I still demanded I did bring that into the bedroom until my last partner, who I just trusted so much, and I knew he was aiming to please me that I wanted to do the same, And a lot of that

had to do with not only submission but trust. UM. So when it came to like the pillowcases, the choking, it really had to be like, oh, okay, I trust you. I trust you, and that's all I know. I ain't gonna die because I really feel like Wheezy and I are gonna die by doing something super kicky. She's gonna drown because she wants to be said. One time, I didn't say I wanted to be shoved. I don't want to be like waterboarded. Oh but you want to do I was having sex and my head went a little

bit under the water. It will be hot that we have done waterboarding too. Uh yeah, now that is white people, and I really only know, like really what it is as an adult because it's scandal. How did you know at one point both of you with waterboarding, Like how far you go? Did you get scared? No? All right, So we did a different variation of it. So, um, one time we did an intense scene and I'm giving her aftercare. Part of her aftercare is like a shower.

She loves when I washed her and bathe after a scene, so I'm like bathing her. She's all clean. I'm like, yeah, my little slide is all clean now, and I'm ready. So um, we're kissing in the shower and all of a sudden, when I kiss, it's just something about my hands that gravitate towards her throat. Next thing you know, I'm choking her in the shower. Water is ready gonna through her face and just turning me on. And she's She's like, so this is happening. This is happening, ending

up standing off, It's like, yeah, this is happening. So that became like an ongoing joke for us. Allowed Literally every time we get into the shower together. She's like, it's about to happen again. Yeah, so how long have you guys been together? Um? Almost here now? Yeah yeah, so I was I wanted to tap in on what you said about the submissive woman thing. UM. So part of like what I do is I always give people

like a consultation before they book me in. Um. A big part of that is like taking the video of some quiz while I break it down and yep, and when I see, like, you know, someone that comes back with like really high i'm submissive values, I automatically assume not that they're a submissive women, but they tend to be, um, a person that has a lot of responsibility in their regular life. A lot of times women who have a lot on their plate, they desire to relinquish some of

that control when it comes home. They don't want to come home and still have to be the boss and take care of everything, and they want somebody to be able to say, like, hey, I went above and beyond to make sure this are some of those values. Some of those values, uh, submissive values. So sometimes like what I mean by that is just the desire to want to like just just relinquish some of that control is

what I mean? Like, um, like I said, the biggest misconception is that you know they're going to be submissive in all person life. But the reality is is that they just want to break. They want somebody to say like they took the time to actually plan something out, you know what I mean that simply I don't like we all do yes those women, But like, isn't it strange how men still can't get some of this ship together?

We always how many times you're gonna see the meme that says, oh, tell her to get dressed by seven o'clock and do this, man, you still don't do it. Still don't do it. But also even even what you just said outside of the bedroom, like when when it's daytime, don't ask me what I want to eat, don't ask me what I like to do. I want you to just be like this is where we're going to be ready at this time, I'll pick you up. Then that's

how simple it could even be with dating. Like I joke about it and I say it like, so what I'm hearing from you is you probably wouldn't recognize it as that, but I consider in a good way. And so like though brads may have like a difficult I mean a rough reputation being difficult to deal with. I think they just work better with people who are super attentive, so bright to the type of people that don't want

to have to tell somebody what they want. They want you to know them well enough to meet them wherever they're love. I'm a brad. You know. They don't want to say I need my pussy aid, I'm hungry, I need a hug, get off your phone. They want they want to just be able to act up slightly, and you recognize exactly what they need because that's the type of ship they do for the people they love seeing. And you say I'm toxic, it's I like acting up so I can get told about myself. No, not like no, No,

it is perst of another anyway. Wait in the b d S I'm checklist. Um, do you have any hard knows that you've shared with the sub, like whether it be punching or something like that. Well, yeah, I'm not see the thing is I as long as it does well. I'm still trying to like figure out what are some of my heart knows because as I'm realizing, you know, I'm evolving every single day. Um. And it's not about necessarily doing it the way that I've seen it on TV or in a magazine. It's about doing it where

I feel comfortable. So if somebody were to say, like, hey, I'm into punching, I'm not gonna go and try to Mike Tyson them. I'm gonna start with like, you know, really really really super light you know, contact and then slowly up and find where I'm calling and that, so you know what I mean that that's the way that I try to approach everything with the central approach. The same thing with flogging, spanking, choking, centrally, do you be on him? He can be very something. I want to try.

Golden shower. That is the shower that y'all need to take. Okay, drowning man, I was to say, doing that in the shower is like where I've done it, And I mean clearly I've now done it in the shower on her. Don't count. It's not done. I ain't making no mess, bro, like we did that ship well the one time we did it in Miami, Bro, we have we have two more days in this hotel. I'm not sleeping in PISSI sheets it was COVID. They not really coming to No,

I wasn't doing that. And then every other time I've done it, it has been in the shower or like while I was sitting on the toilet. Wait, so you did do it in the bed in Miami. No, I didn't do it in the bed because I still had to lay in the bed for two more days. So I wasn't. No, definitely not an accident yet. No. Um, well, we're gonna get into our vanilla ship before we really deep dive into B D s N with their marvelous and siphon. This one comes from Mirror dot Co, of course,

with all of the crazy ship that they have. This one is about a man who had uh to undergo an operation because he had an erection for two days where he thought his penis would quote unquote die. I thought it would die. Um. A man at forty one I'm not gonna say his name said he was in excruciating pain when it happened while on holiday. Surgeons there eventually warned Elliott he'd never be able to have an

erection again if he didn't undergo the procedure. A hole was cut into the base of his penis to drain out blood and finally restore it to normal size after about thirty six hours of discomfort. He said, I thought it would never go away. It was bigger than a usual erection and wouldn't stop for robbing. I've never experienced the pain like now I wanted to. I wanted the vanilla. I stopped my toe, not even kidding in March, so you know, like the part of it is black. I've

always wear a black nail ballos. It doesn't matter. So I asked this lady like, oh, it only got to the middle of my foot, Like, how do I get the blood out? And she said, there's the way we do it. We can drill a hole to get the blood out, or you can just let it grow out a girl, Yeah, you really have to drill to get the ship out. But what's crazy about UM this happening? While this is a rare reaction, I wanted to actually

share how this happens to the man. So it's a rare reaction that UM is actually coming off of pain killers. UM he was taking coatinge oxy and morphine sulfate after tearing a leg ligament in a skiing accident seven years ago. UM and Elliott, who was childish, feared for his fertility um and he just talks about how how excruciating the pain was. But basically it was coming off of all of the paint colors that he had been taken that caused this rare reaction for his penis too. I guess

I have a lot of blood there. Um. Of course, in this conversation, I wanted to make it a little lighter, but I wanted to ask you what has been your longest erection? So a funny story. I umy actually remember that time my dick broke your two um? So, uh did this pass erotica that that just passed? I had came across this boofoo was selling that was selling like

these natural erection stuff or whatever. And I'm not gonna lie like it always the idea of finding something supernatural that's not gonna have anything, and it's gonna like and I joke that was like destroy me. That's where it really comes out. He wants to destroy me. He's like, what can I take that will? Literally? So I had to like this old this puposably all natural um supplement. It had like a lot of things like Dr Sevy had recommended I'm like, oh, I'm not recognized that. I

recognized that. That seems good, that's had something. Yeah, everything I was on um. I was on a medium swoll for like three days. Then it was really good, but I had the only headache I had. I had the only headache and I will never take that again. And yeah,

how many hours in did you start googling? I didn't need to start going And I recognized it because I did try LAG in the past, you know what I mean, just to give it a trial, like even and I'm pretty sure a lot of men will agree, like even when you have a working dick, you still want super dick for some reason, Like who doesn't want to dick that doesn't go down when whenever you wanted to be up? So I had tried it a few things, so I was like, I recognize this headache. I know exactly what

it is. This ain't a natural as they say it is, Like that makes you think I think I love my wife. Do you remember that scene when Chris Rock Oh, yes, and he took the viagrah and they had to call an ambulance and like, I don't know, I'm not gonna front I do kind of like when dudes take enhancements because it's crazy hard. That's why I don't want you

to feel sick. I brought up my men to where my ex was taking beat juice was like so healthy, so healthy, but like when we had when we had sex to dick would get right back up and we would go out it again and again, like maybe he had that it was he said it was the beach.

Beach is good for your blood. That's it's blood flow, right, can change your diet to make that work out, But you got to be consistent, that's the problem, and not consistent that you think you can just like I'm not gonna front I have a great three day health do y'all do this Where it's like he said, you have to remain consistent, I'd be like, oh man, just to watch a pineapple juicey get my pussy right, I'll just great little fruity diet and then if I'm not gonna

get a dick for a while, I'll be like about my diet pertains to sex. If i think I'm getting chunky AA for other whisper nigga, I hate you so much it should be for your help. All right, Well, let's get into the hor derve. So the horde derve is going to be both of you guys talking. Again. We have things on the table, but I really want to get into some sex tips. That is what this

UM segment is. And so I want sex tips from you as a prodom and sex tips for you as a sub in both communication and um, let's do in and out of the bedroom. So I would like a sex tip from you first, and we'll start in the bedroom. What is the tip that you would give to other men or women who take the dom role in the bedroom? Okay? UM, My number one thing that I would say that I've taken from B d s M is UM debriefing after every experience. So um, I like to do it in

four different quantries. Anybody has ever had a session, you know, I always ask, hey, what was your favorite part about what just took place? Usually it's a session, of course, um, but even when we have sex, I'm like, what was your favorite part of it? What was your least favorite part? Was something you wish would have happened more, you would want more of in the future, and with something that

you can do without. And before the conversation I was having, after all the things, but compound tips to make sure that you established a safe space for this conversation before it happens, because a lot of times, you you know, people be in a joking mood and they don't want

to have a serious conversation. But you should be able to be honest with a person because you know, and I posted on my Instagram like, women tend to be able to take more criticism when it comes to sex, but men, they get right into their feelings or words. So go find somebody else with this. And now if you want all of them, like bro like, what you can do is you can cater her experience so exactly what she wants, so every single time is getting better

and better. And if you should. You know, you don't have to do it every single time you have sex, but try to do it as much as you can every time you've done that with an experience, whether it be sex, whether it be a B D S M scene, debrief about it, talk about your favorite part, least favorite part, what you want more of in the future, and if it kills your ego. Just a tip out there. I would at least say this if someone is having terrible sex with me, I'm not giving them tips. I'm done.

But if I like having sex with you and I have like a small improvement you like, trust me. I'm just saying it. In the last bist doesn't when you said that, I was trying to think, but you're right. Like to me, when I give criticism, it's because I really enjoy having sex with you and I want it to be better. I want us to both feel like it's better each time we have sex. If it's wet, we just never criticisah. And if it just came up out of nowhere all of a sudden, it's like, why

did they do that? I don't like that. It's because they were trying something new because they wanted to surprise you. So it's like, let me just kind of, you know, say hey, I know you tried that. That was different. I'm not sure how much I really like. Okay, So in the bedroom, as a sub, give a sex tip to other subs. Listening sex tips to other subs. So, I mean everyone's sexual relationship with their dominant, don't get nervous. Everyone's relationship with their is very specific, right, Um, So

it really depends on your kinks. I enjoy just being ravage being taken having zero control over what happens. You wanted, no problem, We're doing this. It's good. But I would say as a sub, it's communicating your desires. Something that we did early on was talking about the kind of porn we watch like because that that if it's getting me off, then it's something that interests me. So by sharing that, some people are kind of ashamed to like

share there. It took me first. It took me forever to share with especially once I was like, well, I really like you like It took forever to share with him that I liked watching two men fuck, I watched gay Man. Yeah, And so he was like in the bed, like, well, let me see what you watched. And I was like, you ain't even you all want to see this. You don't want to see what gets me off. But I think that that start a conversation like well, why do you like it? And I told him too it had

to do with the cleanliness. I feel like, um, there are a lot more sensual in gay porn. So men moan, men kiss their Buddha holes, be shaven and clean like straight sex, be a little rough. Like at first when you said more essential in gay porn I was like, no, but also I think it's just but no, No, I watched gay porn too. I think it's because we're watching porn be so rough against women. I don't think like my gay friends are never telling me about the most

central sex they're having. But I think gay men like make kiss and they're not thinking about it. But we just rarely see kissing in porn. It is saying like how rough. I mean, I like watching rough sex I porn because I really watched porn for the novelty of it um, but it is kind of annoying sometimes where it's like god damn. I kind of like when the camera goes to the girl and I see her own like and you'll see even comments sometimes where it's like,

oh she enjoys this. That's the most funny part to me about sex is that men are so focused on themselves and porn or fucking you know, high five and the other nigger in a gang bank. When all the comments that you'll see when a bitch is like really good at her jobs, Oh she loves it, that's what we want to see. We don't want to see you being like okay. So what I would recommend this is a good plug. Black Touch. Have you are you familiar with that company? Black Not Touch b B LK touch

dot com. We have a scene on there. Um and they specialized well, he specializes and showing real sensuality and porn. It's an old black owned company. UM, and it's really good, very well done, very taste. It's it's it's it's totally different than anything you'll see on porn hub or x videos. And I'm about to check out for like two minutes. Get into outside of the bedroom. Is this dumb sub relationships still active outside of the bedroom. She's the boss

outside of the bedroom. She's the boss outside, so outside yes? And how does how does this switch on and off with when you guys know you're relinquishing power to each other. Is it only in the sex space, because clearly you guys do a lot of things outside of Recently, I just I just discovered um and this is crazy to a minute, I just realized that I am a switch right um, but only for her. And I say that because you know, um, something that I deep down desires

someone to help me remain more organized. Like I'm really good at performing and showing up and doing my thing. But it's the behind the scenes stuff that I struggle with, if I'm allowed to be honest. So I realized that

she's super good with those things. And I'm like, Babe, when we're not doing the show, when we're not doing the scene, where we're not fucking, when we're not you know, presenting ourselves, I would love for you to tell me what to do and and keep me on, keep me, hold me accountable for those things, you know what I mean. And she does a really good job with that, like, hey, did you send an email, did you make sure you work out, did you you know, to contact the school,

the kids, teachers or whatever the case be. Just making sure that, like I'm I'm you know, keeping on it up and up and that that that turns me on. So I mean, when you said you like the switch, at first, I was really thinking, like having a girlfriend that's girlfriend she well, I mean, but she she can't tap me when I when I when I don't do what I want to do, because um, you know that ission within the limits of he's willing to do what is topping within limits because I know how I'll be topping.

I don't think you talking about riding because I was not technical that that well, talking is a BDS term, right like the b D s M. Excuse me when we say top and bottom generally on this show, you guys, do hear I say top and bottom? What I'm talking about, um, gay sex or an't no sex or whatever strapping up? But a top in D s M can be a term used for the dom, right, you can. It's interchangeable, but I think we just normally say it. Yeah, yeah, are you I am cub Yeah, and you're Latina to

Puerto Rican. I love PoCA ts Madicine, what man my new favorite clip on Internet. Ts Madiicine puts this wig on and she said, oh I feel like a porter reckon in that. And then she goes someone which is that's Mexicans. Many look at you knowing that I know we're Selenda. She was j Lo is a Puto Rican and the Mexican community was upset. I mean, I'll be real when I mean I saw the clipping, this is it.

She was a Mexican. Oh damn, I wish we could hear it is not Oh my god, but uh, keep she's really getting this with j Lo a motown what she was saying in Motown and I'm I'll take it to go CCS Madison. Um, well, let's go ahead and get into it them. We are going to get into the sensual side of B D S M. However, I want to start this conversation off for anyone black listening, any person of color listening who is just like I

know of this to be white people ship. So how do I introduce this to the people that I'm dating? And I asked that because I would love to know both of y'all's experience with being introduced to B D S M um, and how you've then been able to

introduce it to your partners moving forward that you've been dating. So, as a dumb I guess, um, a lot of men that I've dated, especially black men, they assumed to just that they're doms because they run ship there, man, and they're gonna fuck you till you tired type of ship. So how did you how were you able to differentiate how you showed up as a DOM in the bedroom that was not just I'm in charge of the bedroom. Well, um, I'll take time to educate myself every day, like listening

to the horrible decision, I literally wake up. I'm a huge nerd. I'm a huge nerd. I was. I was spending last last night learning about different hormones that are released from the brain, um, you know during sexual like I'm trying to get us. It's it's really it's a lot of science that that is evolved. I'm involved in b D s M and when you take time to understand it, like something that we're gonna do. Fireplay, which I always tell people to me, is like the epitome

of what b D s M is to me. Like, you know, us as black Fold, we don't play run no fire, we don't specially around their hair and like, but when you take the time to understand what fireplay is why the temperature doesn't burn so hot that since station it gives you the reason it may make you feel aroused or potentially bring about orgasm, You're like, wow, imagine all the other things that I was afraid to try that you know that I didn't And you know

that's that's basically what it represents for me. So I'm always constantly looking for something new that I can try to add to the list of things that I want to you know, explore in the bedroom. But more importantly is I think it's just the fact that I'm like a super active communicator, Like I'm always putting her onto

something that I'm watching that I wanted to try. We're going to discuss it in and lengthen, and in fact, like we we have an ongoing joke, like we're always negotiating our next scene, because anytime I bring her bring up something, she's like, I know where this is going. We're gonna talk about this for about a week. We're gonna try it next week. I wanted to ask that was he your first person to introduce you to this side of VideA something or did you have a partner

before him that was into all of this. I have never had a dom before. However, um, when I entered into lifestyle and started going to like play party parties, you start to me people with different backgrounds. So there were other people that had don backgrounds that you know, they would come with floggers, they would come with things to spank people and do impact play, and I was very curious, like, I don't know what you're getting out

of that. So of course automatically it's like put your hands here, bend over there, I'm gonna show you, and it was. It was not what I expected at all. You know, I'm thinking I'm just gonna get hit, and it was very it was a slow build up and it was like, you know, it's it's like this, and I'm like, okay, I could see that. But also I didn't feel comfortable to allow myself to be aroused because I wasn't aroused by this person, right, So I was like, I kind of get it. It kind of makes my

body feel a little woozy. I kind of like like where this is going? But with and I want to talk about it because you guys, you have a dungeon as well. Correct. So my experience, my most recent experience uh in a dungeon was in Orlando, uh and I wish I could bring no. It was actually the dungeon at Secrets, So there's a dungeon there and I was able to experience. First off, I believe I'm claustrophobic, like I don't like ti areas. But I actually got suspended

with bondage. And while I was suspended with bondage, not only was I being flogged by the wife um that was with the couple, but the doum that was also playing with me was doing electro play, and I had was just certain I was not going to like it. And ironically, not only was my back in such an amazing like being suspended with bondage, I just my everything just felt stretched out and just like in a different type of Oh my god. I was like, I didn't

even feel like I was constrained. And then that's where right constrained. Yes, And then non insation is don't don't, don't don't confrontation what it was? Um, that's a Patreon joke. If you're not on Patreon, you won't get it. Um. But when the electro place started going, and I don't know if it was because my blood flow was, I was like, oh this is nice, this feels good. Um, electroplay I've only done in dungeons. I also did it

in a dungeon here. I wanted to ask both of you with owning it, why someone would go to a dungeon and also what your favorite equipment in the dungeon is that maybe we wouldn't find on this table or in our bedroom, because that should be express. Yeah, yo, trust me, you must be rich grocer happens, Yes, your drove here. Goddamn y'all rich A big part of um, you know, like they say, the biggest of sex organ is the mind, right, So a big part of like

getting the mind turned on is ambiance. So the dungeon itself creates that that that ambiance that you want, like the slow lead. Um, of course it smells good, but also the things that the furniture, not walking, wet plussy, you know what. The ambiance that's really it. Yeah, because when you talked about suspension, just now thought about it was our first episode. I think when I did that aerial yoga and I threw up on myself. That was

the only time I've really been suspended. But Dad was probably it looked like a yoga studio right which I was in a whole The lights was down. It was red light, red light doing maybe I wait if they're okay, hold on you like a scientist, Now what is it with the red lights? Um? You know, so different lights

do evoke different emotions. Okay, so that's been proven. I mean, we mean, we we know what to means stop, So I'm confused at how it brings out the dark the darker red so to speak, the bright red means stopped. Like that is the one that brings you to attention, like whoa, but a low light kind of red kind of makes you feel more comfortable, more soothing, more like chill versus like these bright lights right here. You feel awakened when you when you bring down the lights. Think

about it. Anytime somebody's trying to get sexy, what you do exactly. If you think about anything that had a sex scene, they always changed the lights down a little bit. So you're already you're already like trained to recognize a light like that's kind of red in the background to kind of be like, Okay, this is something sexy. This is I was gonna say this. It just said when I looked it up, it said that red is a color that represents desire and love, and so we're trained

to think that very interesting. I mean, there are many different colors. I mean, I'm not I'm not. I don't remember. I can't recall them all with the DIALA lights is blue and A shrooms that sex I haven't had in my life. So I have blue and shrooms and sex is the magic equation. And that's another thing to keep in mind. Like granted, like yes, for the most part, the red light is going to do it, but each

person is different. Maybe you're like you said, the blue light work for you and ship she just says shrooms. I just had a thought whenever I go to sex clubs and people aren't like crazy fucked up, but like maybe someone's drinking, maybe someone's did a little molly isshrooms or we'd edibles whatever. Is there any drug that like you've seen heightening experience, not promoting it or done the opposite. Have you seen someone on drugs and you couldn't work

with them? Or I mean I saw you were quick to last time I went to the sex club, everyone was dimly on molly and nobody's dick was working. A lot of men their dicks was just what I mean from a from a sub perspective or what you're doing. Well, I don't know me personally. Only thing I could do with smoke way because I'm like paranoid to try anything else because the way I was a crack baby. So it's a little differ but a little serious. But I really do try to stray away from it because I

don't know what's in my system. I would be a little nervous if I'm honest. Um, So you know, family

history is a big thing. So me personally, I can't say what I've tried or you know, Um, and a lot of the times, you know, we a lot of the parties that we go to now because we started in the regular like let's just go to any party, any club, But a lot of the parties we go to now like heavily vetted, like secret society, kind of kind of society, secret party, this kind of thing where everybody is a small you know, nick group so to speak, and the rules of engagement is like making sure that

you are not you know, over intoxicated. Um, you're not like super hard. It is a really intense experience with something like that too. Yeah, So you know, like that's why I say, lott, we take off the edge for me, you know what I mean. Other people they might try other things, but for the most part, I've never really seen anybody in my particular scene that is like too fucked up, you know what I mean. Now that I've been really into like the scene, like I don't go

to collegilate anymore, that's definitely. Yeah, I don't know what happened to that place. Um, But now that I'm like really in the mix of sex, clubs, and it's really like the only type of location membership, only the experience is more comfortable and you you don't feel like people they're even have the gens of it being like they

need to be. And what I think a lot of you know, sex clubs have with the B y O B thing, which is what most do because obviously the liquor license and we want to make sure that we can keep these places safe. You kind of think if collegula is the first type time of place, someone's gonna getting sucked up to be there because they just don't

know what's gonna happen, right, which is what happened. Like me and my friend the first time I went, we killed an entire bottle of Don Julio, and so there were bits and pieces that we both had to remind each other about that night. And you know, we ended up going again for Halloween, but we knew that that was we then felt safe enough to know we didn't

have to be that intoxicated. But we both had such nerves and jitters that we we probably got way to too drunk drunker than we should have been in that space. I dont't drink, I don't really I'll have maybe one to max okay while I'm there, and even then it's not guaranteed. So I like to so I like to be free. I'm I'm usually one of the first people naked dressed downtoime because I'm ready. I brought this a

little outfit. I'm ready to show it off. I really don't even put effort into the like party, actually we did. Really did you guys both have people with you know that night or did you you fell in love? And I hope it's like I'm not to find it for real, for real, like if you won't like mind the people you want, you want to be in areas where they're

going to be to write. Um, I wasn't. I was there with my partner at the time, and I knew he was going to be there, so you know, this was kind of a small What had happened was, um, it's a small group, so everybody knew who was going to be there already. Was actually like a Christmas party. We're kind of doing like a secret Santa like and you know, the person who was promoting it was like, oh,

we're going to also have this dom there. He's going to be doing demos and dropped his profile in and I was like stalker, stalker talking to my partner like he's going to be there, This looks dope. I want to try this. I can't wait to meet him. And he was. He had a partner at the time, and I was like, I can't wait to meet them both,

you know. So I went for the party and also to meet him because like I wanted to know more about this, and his style was right up my alley because I'm not really into the you know, the the deep dark like what I say, yeah, the leather that doesn't really do it for me. But I mean, look at him. Were you guys relationships? Yes? Did you go from clients to it it um? Yes? Yes, I can say that I booked him. I booked him so you know, transpared,

little transparent. Yes, I paid for the experience because after that demo, I got that night my like first time like squirting like on it was insane. He actually brought my partner to help kind of do it, you know, a massagic So you just know, like you you can make any woman square? Is that a thing? I would never say that talk about what I will say that I've never met a woman that I couldn't make s work. Thus fall Okay, we're not and I genuinely mean it,

right because is it fingers? Is it? Um wandes? Like, what have you seen to be the easiest way into squirting? So I want to give you a short answer, but like I don't want to promote the wrong thing there. You have to take your time. You have to make a person feel comfortable, and you have to make a person feel like it's not They're not pressure to do that. If it happens, it happens. If it doesn't, it doesn't. I never even man, I never even mentioned the word

squirting when I'm trying to make it happen. I just tell people to push out in it and the entire throughout the entire experience. Everything else I'm doing is to arouse you to get your pussy like feeling like damn, thats hard as the dick, so to speak, as the clickers. You know, the click is hard when it gets really aroused. So I'm taking my time to arouse them as much as I can, and then I'm giving them clatoral stimulation

and that I'm I'm massage in the G spot. And then I'm also um I'm really good with making people come on command. That's that's like one of my tricks that I do. Kind of like that. One of the most amazing things that I saw recently on your page is that you make womens squirt with fire your face. So can you I'd like to see it. Can you talk a little bit about how I'm not gonna hold you fire by my pussy. I don't even know how my mind would allow me to relax and be aroused

by that. So how are you getting to a place where you can use fire to make a woman squirt? If you can explain it, and then also if you could talk about the fire tools that you have. Okay, um so um. I normally started by just giving a regular massage and then I move on to like a

fire massage. I'm big on temperature place, so I'll start with like using like ice on my hands, and then um, after a warm, warm or your massage, I'll start with the ice in my hands and our massage to bring their their temperature you know, um lower, making them cold. And then I was the mom I'm pretty good gae the temperature though. I want you guys to fill the fire today. That's why I brought it today so you can see. I won't put it on your pusy day. I'll let you fill it on your arm so you

can see. How are you saying not today, like you just know you're gonna put I did, uh, And we both were experience. I did a fuse, like just a little skit thing with my friend Rory, and we basically pulled out all these sex toys and different things they brought and we didn't know what they're bringing. And we both used a candle when I was in the car and we were just sitting around with it, and in the car, I was like, dude, I fucking burned myself.

He's like me too. And I realized when I watched the video back I was pouring it from here and it was so stayed for like a month. The higher it is, the more argus a chance it. And also want to use body safe oils, I mean a body safe but exactly there's also a difference in I think that that's very important. If you're listening and maybe you don't have the tools that their marvelous has, but you have candles, it does have to be a soy wax

candle that is safe to go on your body. And basically what happens to then is when it's soy wax, it doesn't necessarily become hard. As soon as it hits taken, it becomes oil. So then it could be something that you massage, but for sure you want to. And that's how I played with my partner as well, like I started off higher and then I drop it. Then I bring it back up. But the but the higher you bring it it allows All right, let's see. Yeah, let's

get into fireplay. Let's get into your tools. Kids. Don't try this at home, and yes you can real quick because we love a good audio experience here. I want to be sure that you're able to talk about what it is, what the tool is. Well, I'll tell y'all what it looks like. It looks like. It looks like a gun. Oh, go ahead, it looks like a torch. That's the word. Now he got a comrade. Okay, sorry, I'll looks okay, um, okay, So is that a marshmallow that it wasn't a fire? Can you really explain? So

explain what this? Yeah? What is that? He just touched it. We only did the general insurance in the studio Okay. Now he said, there's no smoke that comes to you. Okay, okay, don't put it by the mic How does that feel warm? It feels good though? Why are you? Can you push his microphone more? Yes? Thank you? Yes? How does that feel? It actually feels like you have hot oil on your hand, but you don't. There's no oil at all. Oh wow,

I don't want to look okay. So also, I definitely want to tell you what I just saw coming over. He was holding a stick thing Mandy, and he was touching the fire with his hand and then touching Mandy. So are you going to get a different example that I thought you were? You light her ass off? No, no, no, I do want to plug my fire really quickly. I want to plug my fire mentor right now. If you guys go to my page which will probably be tagged, and my professional and my link tree. Um is my

fire mentor is located in my link tree. So he can teach you about creating a fire kit, how to be safe with it, everything that you need to know about fire. He does lessons, he does in class, lessons everything. He's the man. So I want to always any time I do an interview that involves fire. I always plug him because he said plug fire, but like, yes, support that, we're gonna we're gonna switch through a quick so easy can experience this as well. I'm just confused. Why touch

the fire? It feels good? Okay, okay, okay, wait, but also is there a way because I did see you sometimes you put that near someone's skin too, right, Yes, I do exactly, so I can massage your pussy with this, But how are you able to do massage it with that? Or? This is what I'm glad to explain. So the way the fireplay works now smells like burnt We've well, yeah, it's gonna smell because I'm burning the hairs off your arm. It does burn hair a little bit. Um, but my

smell yeah yeah, yeah it's safe. There's hair so um. The way fireplay is usually um done is used that the the selerant is alcohol. So if the higher percentage that the water is inside of the alcohol, the higher percentage the water is inside of the alcohol, the less flammable and the less um the temperature of it is going to be brought down. So I smell like barbecue. I smelled like something charred girls, so a lot of times,

not me because she got oil on you. Yeah okay again started like people, wait, you do do the oil massage first? So yeah, because it didn't. That didn't happen to me. Oh my bad, you didn't get oiled down. He oiled me down. Here he go as the dom and then it's not like he handed me the oil. He said, but your leg up, I got you started rubbing my leg um, So that's interesting. You have to take that step for ye, that's a good step. It's not it's not a necessary step. Um. If the person

like you said, I'm comfortable with the smile. If I tell people all the time when I'm doing fire planet them if you have they have hairy legs and harry back. You might smell a little burn head. But don't worry long as you're safe, you know, like are you in any pain? I mean it ain't no different if not the flat iron to your hair. But honestly that hurts, like like that's the flat and graze my skin like but that's the skin. I didn't feel a sting at all.

I think that was more aesthetic for anything like watching it made. But remember, like I said, the biggest sex organ is the brain. So imagine seeing that, Imagine knowing what's happening. Imagine being in my dungeon and light is down, I'm talking in your air. The music is playing, and I can't wait. I got a fireplaylist. I want to ask you, because I know you said sometime to take a week to try things out and stuff. Has there anything that he's been brought that he's brought to you

that you've been like, I don't know about it. I think that's I think that's it's a problem that we have where we're both just like, all right, all right, I'll try anything twice, you can do it. It's fine. I trust him. I trust that he's gonna take the necessary precautions. He's going to make sure that he's doing in the safest There's times where what was it that we tried that you were the first time? Remind me

where were we what were we doing? Was the first time that we were doing actual fire play after doing the training, and it was, you know, trying to navigate my tolerance level for it, because the best way to learn anything is to do it to yourself. So he knows his tolerance level, but he doesn't know mine, for say, but he wants to be able to make it last longer.

So it was very like, okay, we're going to make sure this is here, the waters right here, right here, all right, I'm gonna start now, and checking in frequently he would do a line of fire, how are you feeling? How are you feeling? Is that okay? All right? And then he'll keep going. So it builds the confidence of of where my tolerance is and what he's able to do. So I trust that he's going to take those steps because I know how he works. I didn't catch that,

and I look, do you have any more question? No ending us on there? And what I am coingy joke person on this podcast, thank you very much. And I was waiting for my moment and you took the is joke and I just feel very upset. Sorry, damn, I missed the joke. I said it was okay, okay, you're right all right. Well, before we get out of here, I do want to get to homemail. Um and for this one, because we have a couple of this is when I really like to ask these types of questions.

So this one, the title is Me and my boyfriend and different sex drives. So, hey, girls, have a big issue in my relationship. Me and my boyfriend have been together for four months and have only sucked five times, and I'm almost with him, and I'm with him almost every day. In my past relationships, I was used to doing it damn near every day, multiple times a day. I know this man really loves me and he treats me better than any man ever has, but sex just

isn't a thing for him. I guess. I've talked to him about it, and he opened up to me and told me he was molested when he was younger by an older girl, and ever since, sex just doesn't really cross his mind that much. He has initiated sex a few times, but most of the time I have to, but sometimes he says he's tired when I ask. The sexual energy is always there, and he is always very touchy. It's like he's teasing me. So I'm confused. I really love this man and I don't want to cheat on him,

but I'm horny every day and it's getting annoying. Um. She's pretty much asking what should she do in this situation? Oh, I want to I'm gonna take a secondal process. You want to try it? All right? We're giving advice. I want to put this claimer out there. I am not a registered sech therapist. I have to tell him the

medicine not registered sex therapist. However, I will say this, um, sharing something that deep and and personal with someone is extremely intimate, and sometimes you need to find intimacy in order for someone to really feel like they're able to explore their things. And if you're willing to be patient, but you also need to be very honest with yourself.

If I need to have sex five times a week and this is not something that they're able to do, then conversations about all right, are there ways that are you okay with me having side partners? Are you okay with us going to a play party? Baby? We can start using toys, mutual masturbation, things along those lines. So there's ways to go about it. There's so many things that can be pleasurable and are not actually penetrative sex

that they can explore if the intimacy is there. Because she she she did mention that he's always teasing, he's always touching her, so definitely he used to try that say he probably has a blockage of course in itself, I would say as well, I did like what you say said in terms of introducing toys, but also I think that that is a very important conversation for us

to have as adults. What does our sexual relationship look like in a relationship and if someone can't match your appetite, is there is there a way for us to exist together with with with opening our eyes to possibly non monogamy. I think that we've talked about non monogamy on this guy to be an open and willing partner, like you know,

the last few months sound horrible. I've been talking about and been open about depression and how I've been unable to reach orgasm because of you know, antidepressants and not feeling super sexual. And I had to be honest and being like, Okay, well, I understand that I'm normally such a sexual person that I might bring you to the

point where you have to lie right. So I want to make sure that I'm understanding that if I can't give you this for a few months or my brain isn't there right now, that I can't take it too personal either, And I think that somebody that can, because you can't expect someone to not fuck you know what I mean? You really can't. I don't think that. I mean maybe someone who's a sexual. I was just gonna say a sexual. If that your premise of your relationship

started with no sex, that's understandable. A friend of mine who's selling it, she's been selling it three years. To me, that makes sense. Somebody who made a commitment to her cool the nigga. I'm having three with me for three years, So you know what I mean? If if I'm not there yet, I'm not there yet? What can I do? So? I do think it's sucked up to take something away from someone. So if this person has never been that for you, that'll be difficult. If the person was that

person in a change, then it's time for congbo. But you can't hold something against somebody they've never had like you know what I mean? If a nigga was just like, damn, I really want to suck you in, ask I can't suck you in the ask? Well you never have? What did this happen? You know what that means? So fast for something that's like out of the wood word And I think the fact that the relationship is only four months old, this is the time to have that conversation.

Don't let this relationship get to a year and a half and now it's only a didn't that didn't process either. Yeah, it's a four month relationship. They've only had sex third times, so I think that yes, in four months, she clearly didn't don't feel on the drink. Now I've heard five times she need four months, but maybe because you said five times a week. Yeah, here I see what you need. The math was the math and but now the math math. Yeah. Um, well I want to see how sex in the last

few months. And another big question to access how often does he masturbate? Because an orgasm is still there, So they're like, if that's there, then you can work with that. Masturbation too would be a thing. Yeah. So if if if he desires and that that you can work with that and you can find other ways to meet in the middle, you know what I mean. Maybe well, no, he he was molested when he was young. Sex but right now, I mean, but to me, that's that's that's a trauma that a lot of people, a lot of

people don't get over, especially women too. So if a woman's if a woman is not um trying to have sex or jump you, you should know that maybe she has traumas that she's still working on, and I think the patients doesn't need to be given for that. But you need to acknowledge if that's something you as a partner,

are willing to be patient with what you say. If that's something you ain't got the patience because but you need Joe Nut, you might need to go ahead and just in that relationship and find someone who can be with you sexually as much as you need to. UM. By the way, UM, I'm super excited. It ain't even confirmed, but I'm gonna sit here today. I'm about to experience, UM something with it. You're coming to right Saturday? Oh yes, Okay, I didn't know y'all say you mentioned dinner, so if

you guys can't even explain what that's like. So I've talked a lot about the sex club and stuff that I go here, and I've been to the dungeon as well, so this would be a new experience for me. Um, can you guys talk about what this part because y'all even set a secrets and lifestyle party, what type of dinner? What is expected? Doing? Well, we're gonna be performing at a high protocol dinner. UM this weekend and um, it's gonna be a lot of the guests are gonna be

like super kinky there. Um people are gonna either identify as what we call big letters in a lifestyle, meaning like um, doms and tops and daddies and mommy's and mistresses, madams, things like that, and they're gonna be little letters people that might identify as like the submissives and um, you know, baby girls, the slaves, the servants, things of that nature. So it's gonna be like basically like you know how when you watch those movies sometimes where it's like super

rich and fancy ideas and every everything. You got to have your forecare in this particular way, and you know, everybody has their roles in positions in the house. That's what it's going to pretty much be like. It's going to be some kinky performances going on. It should be a real sexy vibe. In fact, I'm excited, to be honest, this is my first one, so but I've been looking into This is something that I've been wanting to be

a part of for so long. So I'm happy to be able to you know, to be there and to perform. And you're gonna see me insife and do our things. So I want to see your squork and make the fire go away. That what happens like when people squirt then the fire go out. Sometimes it was like water. It's not like an annihilater, right, So one thing that I like to do, I'm gonna scare you a little bit. The work girl. What you know what I meant? Right?

It's not an exfoliate englisher, it's no. Oh is that extinguisher? Is that what? No? I'm talking about when something goes on something and it gets even bigger. An accelerant there, accelerant? No no, no, no, it's not an exceller. I don't know. I just want an accelerant. No, no, no. If the fire that the case, we would need more. Okay, well sorry, I was gonna scare you. We gotta stop. Say. One of my favorite things to do is put fire in

the pussy. Oh you're a motherfucking lie that for the last Rather do a drop and say, wait, I know, we give us two more minutes. You put the you put the fire in the pussy. So I can actually do that. It won't stay, it won't stay let of course, but you'll feel the warmth. I'm telling you a temperature. My pussy already warm, though, it's gonna feel better. It's gonna feel it feel Who's gonna make this she's burning joke here? You definitely not. We don't need that, but

but seriously, it does feel amazing. What was your first test on me? And how white was she? I was my first test me? You ain't You ain't got a pussy to put fire in? Actually no, no, wait wait wait vieo wait wait wait what you hold on? What did you put in your ass? Excited? Does this take apple pey? This black and touch black type? He has this on his only fan? Okay, what yeah, I have it? You could. We have a really really intense and you're like it as well? You know what? I like it?

I know like I got an idea. I have an idea working. You can't make it. We're about to work together. Fire in the pussy that you normally fuck. I'm telling you that feels amazing. Your dick in after you sat on fire. I'm telling you, yeah, you put your dick in there after you got you know, oh they do so what we're used to, Like you said, you know the type of fire that we're used to when we're not talking about fire playing video sim It's very different

than what I'm talking about right now. So you know, of course it's not going to make sense because a lot of things, the as some money outside looking at it just doesn't It doesn't make sense into your experience in it. No, don't play with that fire. That's real fire this look you don't play it in the pus. You don't know. That's what's No, that's not far away from getting everything. Yeah, set that on fire and stuff

in the puss, not stuff. I will put it on my hand and then I could transfer from my hand onto her pussy depending on how much he has on his hand. As far as the accelerant, he's able to keep fire in his hand like a ball. David Blaine, you like dragon ball We're not gonna do that. It is like dragon ball Z because he how can I

never mind? Anyway? All right, well, sir, marvelous and sip and please drop where our listeners can listen to you and hopefully I'm trying to hopefully they get to see you perform live at our DC show, which has already passed by the time you guys listened to this episode. Um, but go ahead and let people know where they can book sessions with you. Again, you have a dungeon here in the Tri State area and also only fans to let everyone know where they can find you. All right,

well I'm gonna let you all know that. Um. I love Instagram, but they don't love us goods. I got deleted for saying bit please please um if you're listening, you know, try to follow all the links. Um. Um. You can find me at Sir Marvelous Kinks, underscore on Instagram or Sir Marvelous Things. I also got my old original page back finally with my my real name, but I have no I've just started it like literally today. I was so happy to get it. So it's Regulus Marvelous.

So I'm telling you how to backup to the backup. Marvelous Kinks is my original page, my bigger page right now with to score at the end and sur Marvelous Things. Um follow me on Twitter because hopefully I won't get the leaded from Twitter. Twitter has all the points, yeah, and I watch everything yeah, and then you can tap into my lank trees and inside of my bios and then follow us along there. We're gonna try to create our own site because Instagram natives different anxiety. Sure, I

mean it, she just got hurt. She didn't have had a lot of my head fire pussy A. Yeah, well I probably. What I'll do is include your link tree in the description of this episode that at least will hold everything. Are you on anything as well? Um? I am, I don't. Yeah, all right, it's it's a. It's a it's a lot of work. It is a lot of creating is a lot of work. Podcast is a lot of work. We don't just show up and talk like

it's a ton of work. Um. And again, guys, if you haven't yet, be sure to go ahead and get your tickets. That's right. We still have tickets available for our l A show, which has taken place December three, and of course we are finishing it out in one of our favorite cities, Atlanta, that is December seventeenth. It's on a Friday. Um, A lot is happening. And I told I'm gonna work on getting that dungeon that's down there,

so I'm hoping that the Atlanta show. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to have a party after the New York show because of scheduling. God damn it. I thought we were gonna have two shows. Um but um, Atlanta, I'm definitely working on a play party after that live show, So if you haven't been yet, that would definitely be the one to attend. Go to whore Hive dot com and

get your tickets. We are putting on a hell of a show for you, guys, And of course you've probably seen the clips from our DC and New York show as is. Uh, wheezy, did you want to tell them anywhere else to go for anything? Alright? Got it? We're leaving you off with a five minute bonus clip if you're all cut up, that's right. We have bonus episodes once a week over on Patreon. That's patreon dot com. Back slash four Decisions. This has been yet another episode

of Horrible Decision. You know it's bonus bitch. Maybe we all here, y'all know I love this and uh, for those of y'all who haven't gotten to go to a Horrible Decisions live show, we have been honored with pretty much opening for the whole goddamn tour in so yeah, I love you. I've been on the road with Horrible Decisions and it's been amazing. And you can catch me at the next couple of show still or at a bar getting drunk with me, because that's apparently what we do.

But I'm excited because this is kind of like I like to call it a Sin a month, kind of where we're just gonna talk about TV. And if y'all see me with Asante, you know the conversation is going to be about what housewives. So let me tell y'all. When we were in d C for our live show, Asante came a day early with me and on horrible decisions we actually got to of course, if you heard it, we interviewed Giselle and Robin from the Reasonably Shady podcast,

not the Housewives of the Rest. All right, don't do that because you know, Black Effect fam had to connect. But I am a super fan, and Asante came to the podcast recording, uh and he wasn't he wasn't on the pod with us, but he was in the room, had to be in the building. And I guess I want to ask you because wey and I talked about it on a Patreon episode last week, but what was

your personal experience with me in the Housewives? Okay, so let me start by saying Gazelle and Robin are both very lovely ladies, like they're very light, down to earth. What you see is what you get, no Boogenus. I really appreciated the fact that they were just two normal women out here working and they still were able to be polite and smile and they act like they think, and so I was just I was here for it. They were everything And then like them, I wish I

wish all of y'all act like this across the board. Now, this is bonus content. So are we able to spill any of the tea because y'all know we was asking for the tea and I feel like we got some drops of it on whatever, So literally some drippity drops. Okay, what drops? Do you remember the one specifically that I remembered?

I know that it was. It was funny because I watched Which What Happens Live last night with Porsche and she brought it up even with Andy that Mia has been in the blogs and on Twitter talking like she don't even want to be a part of the franchise anymore. However, the tea that we received is that she specifically moved to Potomach to be on this goddamn show. So she knew exactly what she was getting into when she signed up for her and her partner to be on Housewives.

And I think for her to say she thought it was gonna be less messy, she thought it was gonna be more like Beverly Hills. But I just watched Beverly Hills. That ship. It's his own brand of mess But I see how Mia, the way that she acts and carries herself, or pretends to, because you know, it still seems very much like I'm putting on. Of course, she would pretend that she thinks she would fit on on the franchise like Beverly Hills. But she also remember she ain't got

enough She ain't got enough money on Beverly Hills. She don't got enough money, and she's not like she's not of the caliber of Beverly Hills. You and I know that. Listen the fact that she bragged about making four hundred

thousand a year. If you pick up them networks of the girls in Beverly Hills, Hunty, I think the person who makes the least amount of money is Crystal the new uh, the Asian girl who her husband made lyon King My Nigga, like, and I think that her net worth is like three million, but she makes the least Sun and it's like eight. Garcella is at like eight and those are the low you know, fucking Kyle and the Hilton, the whole Hilton brand was. She made it seem like she felt like she would fit more in

Beverly Hills. I was like, your net worth wouldn't have got you onto Beverly Hills. Um. You know, she's delisional, you know, has been delusional. That's been like her thing. And because she's been so delusional, I just assumed this was gonna be one of her taxis where she's like bluff thing to try to get a raise for the next season, or maybe it was her social media person doing that. And I hope they were in the hope that she gets fired afterwards, because I don't need to

see another season. To me, honestly, that part, with the other bit of tea, I think I got. Um. I got the feeling that both Robin and Giselle actually like Karen. They had like really bad to say about Karen, and they do it as Pike h