Ep 244: Reasonably Shady Heauxs (Ft. Gizelle Bryant & Robyn Dixon)

probably don't like, y'all. Yeah, we are joined by Robin Dixon and Giselle Bryan, not only the reasonab really shady pot but also the real hospis of polimic potomy Parliament. I don't know, we don't care what you Okay. By the way, my name is Wheezy. Our show is Horrible Decisions. We have a show dese stigmatizing kings for black people in the community. Now we really talk about nasty ship. We're gonna be respectful today, are we? No? We not do what y'all do? We need to be nice? Y'all

got kids? Do what you do? Yeah? We do? You want to say? Oh? Wait, the people in the comments just a preference. No, no no, no, I don't know. I'll tell you what I have heard. So they really just said hopefully they talk. Oh no, talk about we do this. We never mind get nasty with it. We know how death don't mean nothing. Just because you got kids don't mean you realize you had a cream pie. You know what I'm saying. I got I got a nosy man.

So we'll see what I can do. Well, someone's gonna be mad about this, so um As I said, I don't watch Real Housewist time it, but I'm familiar a little bit with our guests, especially after last night when people were like, bitch, we gotta give you the t However, there's one thing I know about the guests that's to my left because of an email I got from Mandy

attaching their producer, my assistant and black effect. Oh yeah, it says, did I do thinks we're only going to be booking one hour in d C based on the show Robin doesn't show up on time? Can we give her notice drive forty five minutes before the schedule time at the studio because this is very costly if we have to accommodate simply for tardiness listen. I was like, that was good. That was good listen, and I was

little late. You made it just on time, but according to my call time, I had a two third time and I got a good when I tell you why I am a stickler on time. We you and I have had people uh so late to the pod that we've canceled, and then I'll be like they're not coming again. Break So you are me okay, and maybe maybe you're robbing. I'm thinking I'm not too bad, so like I'm half which means like I'm half late, Like I'm like five minutes. Him is like I'm not letting late to zoom. I

mean I need five more minutes. I'm like, shame Andy with the fun that's yes, yes, but if you know you gotta be to yes. Yes. Oh I can't come here stopped up like you know. Okay, wait, so we know you from real households and we isn't like people. But you have a podcast reasonably shady and your sisters on the black. But that tell us about reasonably shady. Well, Robin is very reasonable. I am very shady. Um. You know we have been friends since before the show, before

Potony and during the pandemic. We got together and did a couple of IG lives and people were like, oh my gosh, y'all should have a podcast, and we were like, okay, And so it went from there, and Robin came up with the name reasonably Shady, which I think is very fitting to us, even though Robbing, the last episode we had was beyond shady. I was goddamn reasonable and rob was just the shadiest thing alive because she hadn't eaten, she was hungry, cranky, shady, cray, shady don't count. That's

the ailment. But so I could still be shade. That's the thing that makes us tick. Like I'm still shady. I just I'm not as vocal with my shady, you know. But we still kind of think the same. But I will say one of the great things about our podcast is, you know, yes, we're on a show. It's a real housewive show. It's all about the drama and what's going on,

and y'all don't really get to know us. You don't really get to know our personalities, our friendship, like what we think about the weather, like nothing, you know what I mean? So what do you think about Robin promise I am not watching. We don't right, well, what you care about the world when and camp Like, you know, you don't get any of that on the show, And so the podcast is such a great opportunity for people

to really get to know us. Yes, And it's so funny because people who like hate us on the show, and you know your haters are still your lovers, Like, so they will watch and so so we'll listen, right, I mean they'll listen and they'll be like, oh my gosh, like I really like you all now now I get to know more about you. Now I understand you and I'm human. Yes, yes, but also just like it's a journey, like there's people who have been listening to horrible decisions.

We've been at this for about five years now. People are just liking me. That's because Mandy got a heart when she got a boyfriend right now, but you know he's still girls got a boyfriend and got sweet she'd be like, what do you mean cooking? You love him? But it's crazy because again, I think the pandemic has like shifted my thoughts on so many things, like and

I tell him all the time. We got together during the pandemic and I tell him the only reason I did cook for him because no, no place was right. We were in New York. Nowhere is open. I gotta cook. I did want to start off with some icebreaker questions for you guys. Are they reasonable? Him? Were pretty shady? Most of them are reasonable, all right? The first one because I think it goes with our shows so much.

And we have asked this before for those of you just watched the last season, would you rather we're gonna do a quick this or that tea bag or toss salad? Y'all really ain't looking at as hell? No I'm not. I'm just gonna say, you know, like if it was a drunken night, he like just got off. I mean, because you know you're just like free, right, so then I don't care how drunk I am. Okay, but he just got the shower. It's like clean down there, shower fresh,

shower fresh. I mean, I saw what you look like after all the whiskey shots. You would have asked you want asked some boot that I don't know, I don't care. I'll drunk, I am. I was sober up real quick. If you put his ass in my face? Really, why they're airing, there's fecal matter. Ain't wash, I don't. I don't. Well, I mean, okay, so I believe where he's very clean, like he takes multiple showers a day, so I don't

have to worry about that. But I just, you know, my my brain gets to thinking about what comes out of that's his birthday, October nine. He's a liberal like me. It just it just I would work for me. She could do it for Christmas. That yeah, Christmas, that would be good. He would have probably very much enjoy it. Now I do. There was a guy I was with kind of recently and he didn't like teabagging. Oh he didn't like tea bag. He didn't like the balls messed

with in any way. Okay, well, it is sensitive. So some guys like depending on how you were like, it could be ticklish, it could hurt them, like there's a lot of like you know, like some people like them. He didn't know because like he he didn't even want touching and stuff like, he just was like and they were very large, So maybe that had something to do that. I don't know, but I was offended by the way. Why do we all know? I mean, if you don't like I was offended because I was one of my things.

I don't like teabag you don't like. But you know what, I'll be honest. There's there's a lot of things that I would say I didn't like and when the right person do it, because I actually wasn't a fan of head for a long time. The lad person, I sit right on his face. I think it really depends. Like you know the person next question, y'all a big dick, broke man or a small dick wealthy man. Jesus, I've had both, and it's just like I'll take the big day. We could work on his job. I've faked my resume

to get I mean, how small is small? I mean we know what small isn't when it's small. Yeah, you gotta go small, gotta go sore so that money you feel like even when I didn't, I still small. You gotta go small and ten seconds out of here, like if how many rounds do you like? A good? Okay? In my younger days, Um, it didn't matter, it didn't matter. It's just we can go forward. Okay, that's me right now.

So when does that stop? When you have children? No, I don't want children, Okay, forever, keep going forever forever? Why does the Is it because of tiredness? Is it because if you're tired, you got you're tired, you got distractions, You're just trying to go to sleep. Do you think you get too motherly to where you don't feel sexual anywhere? Oh hell no, no, no, okay, no one has nothing

to do with the other. But when you have kids, you got if you're always thinking, I gotta get up in the morning, right, So if you're doing something at night, you're like, this got to be quick because I got to get a little bit of sleep in order for me to get You don't even get morning sex. You can't. You can't. I'm the one in person. But it's like, okay, what that that means we gotta wa up a little earlier. I mean, it's just you gotta plan it. I ain't

gonna hold you a bit. I'll set my alarm early. Yea, if I know he got to be out the crib about eight thirty, that alarm get See. I don't want to wake up for sex, but you can wake me up with it, and I'm like for ten I'll be like. By the way, those were the reasonable questions here. Comes here, come to shape. You're all ready for the shady question? All right, we'll start easy. Uh, this one is gonna be a wife swap. Which housewife would you up? Husbands with?

None of them jokers waiting the whole franchise at me? Okay, our show to make. Yeah, let's would be the only one I would even consider, right, But because it's one like no, so like no, I would never even want to even take my top off for any of them, my other dudes, No, this is your really that was like convenience in like selfish reasons. Like Chris Bassett, he cooks. Oh, he looked like Chris Daughtry. Don't he looked like the

little rock band singer. Girl, I cannot believe you even knew his fucking because I was watching American I don't I don't even know who that. I don't think so you don't think so not a person that was just a beard in the ballhead. Yeah, there's no like girls like rule number one. Your kids they don't count. It's getting out of school time. Yeah, we saw man, I'm Chris Bassett cooks, and and there's something about a man that cooks that is true. But what about another franchise.

What's Beverly Hills, Mauricio He's getting it morning? No, that's how Richard how rich Ya? Okay, Okay, I'm doing him okay. And I told Kyle already told Kyle like, it's like it's going down James Brown. Did she get to? She laughed? He like, I mean it was when I saw her because I had already made public jokes about me sleeping

with her husband. So when I saw her, I was like, Kyle, you know, I just be playing about MAURICEO but not really I feel so she's like, I'm just out, like you know, she took it in stride, but you know, in person, I have not. Oh, I have not. Would you would you like if she was like, okay, but I got to be in the room, would that still be up for grabs? No, she would have to leave the room. I've already said. I've already said PA would have to have him for the day. And yeah, but

you know what though, what really sucks? Like So I watched the Real housewast franchise years ago, and I started with Beverly Hills, and I remember thinking when I watched it recently, I was like, damn, men, really get better looking at the age. Yes, so yeah, college age, but she still looks it. But like Rezo God damn. Yeah, if you look at old pictures of him, he's not

hitting like that. I feel that way about my my ex, Like I'll be looking like you was two pretty and one is now he almost hitting fit there, I'm like, you want to back, No, we're friends. Okay, we're friends. You're my friends. You went on vacation with last weekend. Yeah, yeah, this pandemic booth, This is pandemic booby. But he's no, we're not together. We're just friends, just friends. Just didn't suck his friendly dick, do you. I was on shroom,

so I'm gonna blame blame the drugs. Last last one, last one. And this is really shady. I hope one of y'all answer this. Who cheats more athletes or pastors? That's a good question. That is a very good question. Okay, See I did here that I think I think they're equal. I think think I want to say athletes, you do, because well, pastors travel a lot too, so if it's a traveling past okay, yeah, you know it's probably equal the athletes. You know, it's like an NBA player. They're

playing in how many different cities? Like definitely, you know what I'm saying. Special they're playing in like and I think pastors start to feel like guilty anywhere those those cities, Yeah, because those cities aren't popping, right, So they like, why don't pastors travel? Don't they got to be there? Everything? Guess girl, you really is first of Jewish. So like, if it's if it's a very popular pastor, he's traveling to go preach at other churches all over the country

and maybe even internet, so he has access. That's all about. That's all it is. It's just access. How much of a whole do you gotta be? The fun with a pastor? A lot of churchills this church, I know we do was in there. I understand the title of the show. But you are a fucking whore, am, but she probably yeah, okay, to be fair rest in peace. But my pastor when I was growing up, you know, he passed nothing but we are not you just destiny. But he was fine,

and I remember people talking about it. I didn't think anybody would want to. You never watched you, like I was like six TV. But the ladies are like God told me, I was supposed to suck you tonight three times. That's what I say. And this is real and what yeah, this is real when they probably think that they're God's chosen one, so they probably got baby legs. Go back to this. This is really like because none of human

with the pastor. Yes, you saw like a message I was very privy to, Like I was very good friends with a lot of pastors wives, so we all talk. Yes, women are very bold and say that, you know, God told me I was supposed to be your wife, not your wife. God told me I was supposed to suck you tonight. That's why I traveled to get here to see you, Like all kinds of stuff. Women are crazy,

women are a pastor. Okay, but the pastors are probably saying the same thing to the women to thank you, right, thank you, But they do they have to say you got ready to go? I was in but you know, because when they are you know, seriously, did you watch The Keepers? It's a Netflix documentary a priest that took advantage of students and stuff like that. One of them were saying that like she needed to drink his like

holy water and ship Why what's the holy water? Pea seem okay, I mean I thought was the r Kelly moment that yeah. I mean, now, I will tell you this the only thing I have used God for. I was dating this dude and he really didn't want to have period sex and I was like, you know what, God turned it off. I don't know what happened. Now. I did have five birth control pills to stop it, but I told him God made my period stop for him. Can't I cannote? And did he believe you? Probably not,

but he's still fun. He was like, no, he didn't like he died period. Well, no, are you I eat? Are we really will be eating those ships? But they okay, but you've been doing it without showing cleansed first all okay, she was like, my meals already clean. Didn't even do much today we clean just sat around the house. You know, I'm not playing with y'all. Okay. I But for the record,

that was a shady question because I'm getting shady. So some of the other segments that we have, one of which we used to have called Kink of the Week, I was listening to reasonably shady and I wanted to actually tell you um about a kink that maybe you should look for in your next partner. You want to find someone who is into eproctophilia. This is a straight man who loves who receives arousal from their partner's flatulence. So Giselle actually shared that she farts a whole lot

of she has text. She asked for the record, I'm leaving. I'm leaving right now. This is this is a mass. You said it all you okay, So what I said was that clarify the things. What I said was that there have been several occasions, because you know, I am lactosa tolerant, so you said this, there have been some occasions that I have done some farting while in the act, and the guys was like cool with it, Like, ain't nobody kick me out the bay for farting? So maybe

I'd even find a guy who what is that? What is the word a proctal Fhila. We said that it happened, you know, when they bench you over and they like pulled up cheeks apart, and you'd be like, oh, I just tightened up. But wait when she let it out and was it like there have been several variations of sad farting there have been no level. There have been noise levels. There have been silent killers. I don't care if anybody else didn't. Never mean you wanna be like ship,

something happened. I don't know what it was like you got a cat? What is it? Listen, We're going on to the next question. What would you recommend women to do if it does happen to them? Do you acknowledge it or ignore it? Um? You you see whether not he acknowledges it and if he doesn't. And if if he does that, you know you might be like, oh my bad, But if he doesn't, you just keep going. So I want no one has ever been like, oh, that's disgusting. Never she's like, look at me now. The

next segment that we have is called Vanilla Ship. Vanilla Ship talks about sex in the news. That's it and this one is more to kind of get you guys open about what type of mothering styles you guys have. So school in Loudon County, UM, the parents were really upset because they did a sex survey that was sent out to the students. These are high school students where they asked how many sexual partners they have, if they're

sexually active, if they've ever caught in an STD. These are all the questions that were given to the students, and one of the students came and said, Mom, I'm really uncomfortable with these questions. And pretty much now they're looking into why this was given without asking the parents for permission. First, Now, Robin, you have so and just

that you have daughters. So I'm curious to know what the sexual identity conversation is with your children and how you guys even talk about sex because your girls are uh, teenagers, they're getting quite up there. So what are like the

conversations you guys have with sex with your children? Well, I mean minors, so minor in eighth grade, in sixth grade, and they're still like embarrassed to even talk about like girls or you know if they think, yeah, they're still they're they're like super super cool, you know what I'm saying. Like they're like almost too cool right now. So we don't have those conversations just yet. Is one having them with them and not you? Maybe because I ain't gonna

hold you. They was sucking titties in middle school. I was kissing boys when I was a fifth grade. Thing Like I'm just like looking at my kids, like, what is going on? Maybe should bring it up? Yeah, all right, I'm gonna tell one's got to have a conversation because I think, you know, honestly though, I think they would be more open with me than with him. Really, he's scary.

He's kind of scary, but but he can fish it out of them, you know what I'm saying, Like he's going to like trick them into thinking that he knows the truth even though he does it. Do you have family dinners? Yeah you should. I would do it like my mom used to do it in front of my dad and I'd be so embarrassed. She'd be like, so do you have a boyfriend? Don't be embarrassed. She was like, we need to talk about it. He needs to get

used to it. We would laugh about it. My mom also, when we was like fifteen sixteen, we will take the car with our fake IDs, go to the club and would give us condoms. My mom was scared that I would lie because you know, I'm saying, we're from Florida's everybody basically like gets pregnant there. She was like, not my child, Like, if you don't sneak out and go to the club, I need to know where, you know? And that was that smart. But I remember she would bring it up a lot, and at first I didn't

really understand it right because it would embarrass me. But then I'm like, oh, she just wants him to get used to these conversations. Yeah, you know what I mean, and the family dinners when it happened. That's smart. I feel like mine are sheltered a little bit just because like I was bad. I was I was so crazy. I was like really good in the house, but I had a lot of like I would always, you know,

be gone every weekend, sleeping over a friend's house. And that's when I was like, we could tell about yours because the ear rings told you I got the foe in at least I know. She said, I can't come

in here and tell you how freaky I am. M had to stop at a certain age and then I could, like, I can tell you everything up to a certain age and after that, yeah, no, no, what I'm saying, like, because because I was bad and because like one, he's from like Baltimore City, like he don't trust nobody, Like my kids are sheltered, like they don't they really when they go someplace like we know exactly where they are, what they're doing, Like, they don't have a whole bunch

of freedom. So I think that's why we haven't gotten to that point with them. But yeah, it's probably about that time, it is. Yeah, sure it is. What about you? Just I um? Okay. So somebody told me a long time ago, actually was a dude that I was dating. Um. He was like, you know, when you have children, if you have a boy, you have to worry about his penis, but if you have girls, you have to worry about everybody's Penisay right, So okay, that side note. So when

my kids were very young, I had a book. I had a bunch of books because I'm a reader, so I had a bunch of books like on the shelf and there was a book The Anatomy of Sex or something. Okay, So they were like it came to me. They were like very young, like fourth grade, third grade, and they were like, Mommy, what a sex? What a sex was? Sc X was was that? Mom? So I was like I ignored it for like a week. So then finally I was like, y'all want to know what sex is?

And I was like yes, So they sat him down. I was like, what do you have in between your legs? And it was like, oh, we have a vagina. And I was like, and boys have a and it was like penis. I was like, the penis goes into the vagina and they were like, I mean, they acted like it was a horror story. They ran out the room. They were so upset. They were like how and why? That's disgusting. They were in fourth grade, yes, but but it was I think the best thing because it was

like I ripped the band aid off. They were very clear and as they got maybe a year later, I was like, look, guys, I don't ever want you guys to have questions about sex. And you don't ask me or I don't tell you in advance, don't go to your friends. They don't know what they're talking about. The part I was like, you come to me because I'm going to tell you. And there's nothing that you'all gonna do. I haven't done, so like, there's no, no, that's right,

that's right. So we have very open conversations. And you know, my oldest is seventeen. I don't you know. She says she hasn't done anything, but I don't want to be a stupid parent. You know, if you have okay, let's just make sure you're protected. So I feel like I have to always be like proactive and get in front of it. I don't think that conversation you had as easy. I think as long as it comes from you, that's all that matters. Everybody's don't have their own. My mom

called it my private like. There were different ways explained it differently. At first she was talking about it being close together, like she didn't say in but you know, it was her way of explaining it to me. And then more questions happened gradually. But as far as you know you're seventeen year old, I always assume that, like anybody over fifteen has had sex, and that's not the case, you know, And I think that especially if you're open.

Like with my mom, I was able to tell her when it happened, and I was so happy that I did because a lot of my friends did it. You know what I mean, I gotta I got a free year called the pandemic, and they didn't go outside. I have an extra year, an extra year building, so well, they just went to like a homecoming dance. I'm gonna show you have a picture the dudes later, but like, these dudes are like looking like men. Yeah, I could

never be a high school teo. I lived by a basketball court in the Larry Side, and I'll tell you right now, I'd be like these they like, I don't know where now, you don't know what that's what they But they're also like had it up there? Yes, And I'm like, yeah, oh that's what we're doing. Whoa. Yeah, they did not look like that. They didn't actually say that. They did not look like like I just said, pretty did No, Seriously, it's crazy. Bro. There was a basketball player.

I went out, it's a little sister and I was like, oh dude. He said I'm twenty and I said twenty what that motherfucker looks so good? And I had it. I felt, Okay, you can look at something that's legal. I'm thirty. Oh yeah you can. You can screw it? Absolutely? Yeah? Absolutely? Are you You can at least look at it? No, Bro, that's crazy. Why is that crazy? He probably is at his best? Bet would you that don't sound that bad? I feel like it doesn't, but I think it's the

twenty I know you ain't developed. What was he develop you feel like he's still a kid bro like, look at the ship. I what the fun is? No? I love it because then you could teach something and they like, yeah, what's that fast food? Play? Is the audience? Do they have an audience at the drafterwork and it's sounding like and have you been? No? I just watched it on TV and then go to the instagrams now. So Um. The next question or segment is our hord derve. We

kind of want to give it to y'all. Our hord Derve segment is sex tips, and so I know that even with us talking about the difference between sex and your twenties, uh to sex maybe in your thirties. Uh, if y'all could give us share some sex tips with the audience from y'all from your bedroom to our ears, Um, your single I am okay, maybe I'm married in a single tip be there we go. I can this is not a tip, but I can say that, Um, how do you okay? Post forty that's when sex gets good,

Like that's when you really know what you're doing. I don't know for the women you agree for. I think for for women maybe ment to I mean I feel like after forty. It's like you understand better, like your body, we were whole, so we even if your whole, even if your home. It's like something happens in the mind that makes it all the way better. So I'm gonna better. You think it better? Partners, no better, no better. I

don't know what it is. Do you agree? Um, you fairly say that like you were the same I'm still I'm right, I'm and I'm only two so maybe like, okay, you're like I'm just saying only a two years and you're with the same guy, so that you can't really but I can't say, but it it's definitely just as good, you know. I feel like it's just more mature, like you're not doing all like the unnecessary stuff. You know what I mean? What is unnecessary? Okay, so like like

pounding like forever for no reason, don't do that. Yeah, you know what I mean. So it's like just just making sure you're like that you're doing something that feels good to you. And if you toys, yes, I didn't know that. Yeah, no, toys. Toys have been probably one of them. So I would say that would be my tip. That's gonna be my tip. Like don't be scared of toys. That's your favorite. So I don't know the names of anything. Um, he got this toy that like it went over his thing,

his penis. It was like okay, you know, I don't know. Yeah, but then it had like a vibrating thing vibrating. I don't really anyway saying so why I got it? Yeah, yeah, okay, So and man has never gotten like if I if I just say in toys, I've always gotten it. Oh like a man has never for y'all to go together, right and to pick up out because but I would be impressed. It came from home and like brought a top. I'm like, I think that's It's like he's like excited

to try it. So the vibrating cockering like that was like everything. Oh yeah, I've tried it too, and you can feel it inside your blissy like it's like it does make the dick vibrate and all that. Yeah, that's great every time. The way it's like so it's like vibrating on your clip too, yeah okay, yeah yeah. And he said he puts something over his penis. I'm like, I was like, she about to say he needs a penis. No, no, No, everybody good at that department? Who's that? I? So I

see I like, so you put you have? I ain't gonna hold you. If if it's pulled out and it's small, my period just came on. Can't we can't do this like out of like charity, like I'll fuck you and they have charity? Pa if if if I was already on do and I find out was small, it's an unfortunate mistake, you know. But then do you pull out

an extender and say this is what I wrote? Yeah, it's just like the next time you try to have sex and be like I've been talking to my X again and like I really feel like things are just going that way? And can you can you describe an extend or how does that? Damn? It's like you guys.

So we actually have a whole segment where we bring out weird sex one and so what it looks like is I mean they come in different colors too, so we have different ones in l A in Atlanta might see something different, but basically it's it's it looks like a dildo with a hole in. It's a hollow hole

and you put your dick in. So it's just another and it's straps on or something that's I guess, no, you don't have to strap it on because it'll stick kind of because it's like, yeah, ex, yeah, I've strapped on with my girlfriend, but um no, never extended. Has that ever needed it? I mean, I'm sucked small dig niggas, and then I hate when I fall in love first that sucks. But then you could just have anal set, but okay I can because it's small. Okay, you know,

slippery slope he slippery. Well hopefully if it's small and slippery, doesn't even your mouth. I mean, get out of here. So have you ever like kicked somebody out the bed or out the house before? It? Never mindless, it wasn't good, and we like like like we were sending each other videos sucking other like, you know, because he know it was like super super hips up and I was like, oh yeah he nasty. Oh and I see how he that? But she gonna put me good? How did you go? It?

Literally it just it was like we almost couldn't even get the rhythm to where I literally rolled over. I was like, this isn't this isn't always isn't working. But he sent you pictures of him having sex with other weeah, I like, I like that. I just thought you like that often, like I like to see. I like to want you see to say, like, we all have videos on our phones. I do not, Okay, una work on that. We're gonna work on that as you at the date. Maybe you know, but I don't want to see you

phone in another girl. I don't want to do no, Okay, so see to be fair, I also enjoyed voyeurism and I go to sex club now. Okay, so yeah, I'm into that. Like me someone else, that's what someone but but someone else that's that's like an old video. That's not like, well, if we're both single and we're both just having casually wanted many to be the who acting like I've never done this, I'm like, we have videos like I don't even know her. I will say, I

enjoy um. I'm in an open relationship. I don't really do that anymore. Probably you couldn't handle it on my end, But for me, I did like to see the other person because it made me feel like I was included in it. It didn't feel as and maybe that's just me being a little possessive. It's just the way that

I can handle on monogamy. But I do like knowing how it's going because it makes me feel like, oh, you're not leaving me out or I'm not forgotten about and I think it's kind of or you can't sit at home and wonder like I don't I wonder how it was or I wonder you know, like like there's no like mystery tits. Someone has to take a video for you. Like I'm reading this book right now called Three Women, and one of the women has sex with other men. Her husband will tell her like I want

you to that guy. That guy. Her phone died during one of the sessions and the husband blew up on her like they almost like went separated. He was like, this is the first time you've disrespected me. Like if I'm not included in this, and granted it's a book, but I'm sure someone like I'm not. It's a wrap. In Jamaica, I had I was given a hall pass and I didn't use it. I was in Jamaica and there was a curfew, but I ended up just falling asleep.

A bitch was drawn. I went on a boat all day and a bitch was drunk, looking like a lobster. I just fell asleep. But before falling asleep, I had let him know that, Hey, I met this guy. He's good looking. We might go get drinks later. He called me like three times while I was napping, and it just spiraled over to uh. He gave me a hall pass because we played with women. I like women, so because we had just played with so many women all the time and he had played with women, was like,

you don't want other dick, are you sure? So when I traveled he would give me a hall pass. I never used it because I'm like Nick, I'm good. But the one time I was, I fell asleep. I didn't do nothing, but he thought I didn't answer the phone, so it was it was the guy at bartender. No, he wasn't a bartender. I thought he let the guy. It's like there's like a little thin line, like like you don't know where you can't You don't when I mean, but in monogamy you don't know which line you can

and cannot cross. And so to me, it's just like you need to have full transparency, full openness, and communication just has to be tip to her and to be fair like even with what our relationship is or was definitely more customized, but we set boundaries along the way, Like there was a lot of things where I didn't know it would bother me. He didn't know it would bother him. And so you almost have to also allow yourself to be upset, but talk it through, don't hold

it in, don't hold it against them, but talk it through. Yeah, and that's actually leading us into our decisions because we give it more fuck it. And I bring this up because both of you doubled back after a marriage, so both of you found got divorced, double back to your partner after even infidelity. Wait, wait, we got divorce, explained it to me and went back to the same person. Yes, yeah,

I mean I'm engaged to my ex husband. Yes, that's really do right, Like, oh, there's not other niggas everybody else does right, And then she also got divorced and went back to him. In the gates, we're not together, they're not together as well. That's like really, I think that's almost more. That's more especial than like our normal relationship. It is it is, and we have kids, you know

what I mean. So it's like and we've been together we we started dating when I was sixteen, When we were sixteen, So like, how long were you separated a divorce forum. We divorced ship inve but I would say for like the previous I don't know, like three years since from two thousand nine and two thousand and twelve, we were pretty much separated. We brought the spark back. Have you not seen what he did? Like that will bring the spark back, bitch, that's why anyone, And I'm curious,

you know what? Okay, so you have to watch the show and you know. So we went through. So he played in the NBA, We went, we got divorced. He pretty much lost all his money, so we were like dead broke to the point where like I couldn't even pay my my water bill, you know what I mean, like stuff like that. So we after being divorced, um, we just kind of like came together and was like,

we're gonna get through this together. So we're gonna support one another financially, we're gonna pull our resources, we're gonna help each other like you know, um excel in our careers and all that type of stuff. So we were living together. We weren't together, you know, but we were living together, um, and we just like we got we we pulled ourselves up, you know what I'm saying. We

got back life back on track. Yeah, So it was like going through that with someone really makes you like that much tighter when they say they just live with the y'all and y'all was still having were y'all dating other people while y'all were living we were, Um, I really wasn't because, like I had the kids. So he's like one of them, like crazy niggas, right, that's like, but we love him though, Yeah, he's crazy. He's going to be like, you know, looking, you know, trying to

figure out what I'm doing. Like, so I just was like, I'm not even trying to play these games with him, Like, dude, I don't care what you're doing. You do what you want, but I'm just gonna focus on me, my kids and and make I understand. Now we've done that Google search. We got the Google damn the cover. Yeah. So yeah, so like you got back with him after that? Okay, I got back with the broke dude, Yes, I do have.

Before we get in, um to our horrible decision, just like basic reality TV show questions, I feel like people really want to know real housewife to me? You know how they just growing up, you know how they start to expose people all this time they're really broke and everybody's always calling other one broken. They don't have this. And I watched this clip about people saying, oh, her house this and the driveway, and I was like, okay, but the house is being done, like people with money

do that too. Do you ever feel like you have to almost be um extra makeup, always done to be this well to do person because of TV or even the franchise itself. I think everyone does accept me and Robin literally like, I mean, I don't have the energy for that, and I'm not going I made the decision. I'm sure Robin did too. I'm not going broke for this show. Like I'm not going to get in debt to try to make y'all think i'm something that I'm not.

And I mind you, I was always good, but um, I think that there's other people that get on the show and they have there's something that they have to prove, so they do go in debt, right, and they do do a lot of extra ship in order to prove something to people that they don't even know. I know, like they do music videos and ship, but they're very no budget. But that's when I when I was watching it as a teenager, I feel like it's been out that long. Yeah, I remember thinking, these are the richest

people on TV. Then it changed a little bit to where they started to feel more normal to me. But I think it came from the Beverly Hills and you're watching I remember Camille, I think her right, and they would put the price tag no, not Kelsey Grammars alive, but it was someone someone yeah yeah, yeah, and they weren't really living that life. But I remember they were talking about the money and the birthday party. But that

ship is a lot of pressure to somebody. And so I remember when I would watch Atlanta, I'm like, oh, this is dope because they kind of feel like somebody I know where like the rich one. Now that I watched Beverly Hills and some of these other franchises, Atlanta's, but that's also money too, Like if you're a hundred millionaire over, you probably are going to be living in Beverly Hills. But I feel like all of us cross

the board are aspirational. I feel like people do look at the show and they're they aspire too, regardless of what we have that right, Can I ask is that the pressure I know that you started to make up line you have embellished. We see three week and one week candles going on right now, We like, does that come from being on that show? The pressure to be an entrepreneur, because that's what we've seen a lot from you.

This this season is like growing, moving into a warehouse and really seeing like, oh, this is a lot of work. Is there pressure to be business women? No? I wouldn't say pressure, but it but it is. You know, let me take advantage of this opportunity while I have it, while I have a million people watching me every week, so why not? But but honestly, for me, I've always had an entrepreneurial spirit, so I would have I would have had a business regardless. Now would it be doing

as well? Probably not what I have to work a lot harder to get to get exposure for it. Yes, but when you have a platform like this, yeah, it's great to use it. So but as far as like the like pressure to kind of be someone you're not Like when I joined this show, I told him out the jump, look I'm broke, so she did that was that was a real conversation, Robert, what are you doing here?

Like talking? You know, I'm talking to the casting director and the and the vice president of programming all this. I said, I'm I said, look, I'm not living that life. I'm broke. But they found something interesting in my story. They found it relatable, they found it, um you know, they's something very human, like yeah, yeah, you know, they found they knew that the viewers were going to be

able to connect. There would be a lot of viewers that could connect to that, and so a lot of the Housewive shows there, I feel like they're either the people on it are either aspirational like you know, Lisa vander Pump and Kyle Richards, or they're relatable because they have some sort of interesting story going on, like Kyle's sister. I loved when I used to watch it, Oh yeah, and I'd be like, oh her, she got a normal house.

I love her still in other people's husband. They stopped stopping watches My girl, my favorite one, and I'm so mad she's not on Atlanta no more. But she's getting That's how much that is. I don't even watch and I was like, she's getting real happy though. Yeah, no, you know, I would say, just made me think of

it when you said a million people watching. I heard through a friend about their contract on Bravo that said if you start a business, and she got it taken out with their lawyer, but if you start a business, like we get X amount of percentage. And I was like, that's how big that brand is. They're like, oh, bich, we know you're gonna do well, so we're gonna take something. Well. They you know why they did that because Bethany Frankel started her Skinny Girl line and and that was that

business was purchased for a hundred million dollars. So that's why they started that. So, yes, that is in our contracts. But there's like a it's it's not like out the gate. It's not like, oh give me you know percentage of your how much it's over a certain amount of million. Yeah. But like, I'm not mad at Bravo because they basically I don't say they got burned, but they were instrumental in that hundred million dollars. So I need to stop saying how successful. Yea, I know what I'm saying. Well,

not on the show. People want to watch the show, like you can't tell me now, I brought viewers. I'm building this franchise for New York, and now I gotta give you my money because I probably and I'm not gonna type up. I don't know how people feel about ny anymore, but she was the biggest on Atlanta from what I know, right, So I'm making everybody watching now you need to cut my money. You still need to think. But I think Brabo looks at it. If it's not you,

it's gonna be somebody else. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, everyone on TV. Every every year, I'm like, y'all want me back because I mean, I don't know. I'll never take it for the next Andy. Every every few year, you're not going no where. But still it's like I'll never take it for granted that I might not be rehired. I never take that that the show will be renewed. I want to ask because both of you and with being on Housewives, you share a lot of your personal life.

So I want to ask you to with your double back uh to Jamal, do you feel as though um that being on the show also fizzled out The relationship, Like, did you feel like it was harder the second time around because it was also on this type of visible platform. Um no, only because I know him so well, he knows me so well. So like we showed like a millisecond of our relationship as opposed to the relationship and really what it was. So and and he and I

are very much used to commentary in our relationship. Okay, So I mean wasn't more eyes on it? Absolutely? But was it like, oh I don't want to be with you because everybody you know has commentary? Absolutely not do you? Honestly? I mean I started to cut you off, you know years ago when Jamal was doing you know, it was

all in the news when they were married. It's I don't want to say it's like payback for him, but it's like because she was on the other foot, you know what I'm saying, Like she's the famous one and now all you know, everyone was all up in the business because of her, not because you know what I'm saying, both of y'all went back. I want to know both of y'all believe that wants a cheat or always a cheater because we did see that he ended up um No, that was probably that was prior to that. Yes, Um,

I don't believe that. You don't believe. I believe that cheating is a choice. I believe that. Um. However, men, men and women do live lifestyles, right, so I think that at some point, um, either a man is going to continue to cheat or he's going to make a choice to not, and it goes it's vice versa women too. Yeah. But but I also believe that men as they get older than the cheating is not as really yeah, not

because they still do it. Not they still do it, but I feel like when they're younger, it's I don't I feel like there comes like a little time in their life we need we need thirty ship I Okay, My perspective is a little different because I was with an athlete, so really not to their career is over, can you feel like okay, and even then even then you still have that, you know, of course, the possibility of opportunity, But it definitely changes a lot when their

career is over. And then I just think as they get older and older, they just mature a little bit, you know what. So I'm gonna say, I'm gonna go within an athlete over a pastor only because you could be a pastor forever, which means like you're always going to be seeing people on a weekly You're never gonna be to where you could just chill and be away from Maybe one day God will just be like you

gotta stop and be like your might convene. Don't stop thank God telling these men to stop cheating, or God or God might say you need to keep blessing people. You need to spread the water, not the scene. And you know Steve Harvey always says a man not you quote Steve hard Man, this is one, just one, just one, he says, a man actually does not. Steve Harvey is my mother. Okay, we'll take Yes, we'll take your ball man. We'll do what you allow him to do. Yes, that's true,

you know it's it's it goes both ways. And southing was cheating or is cheating now? Is that a deal breaker for you or is that something that you could look over? Who am I with? Is this with him? I'm at a I'm at a very weird space, right, meaning I don't give a ship like so, I'm at a space where we're gonna have sex and then I'm leaving and I don't like, you know, he's gonna call and he's gonna try to like see me all the time and like form a relationship and I I'm not there,

Like I'm not asking you what you're doing. I don't care what you're doing. So if I can't wait to be your age, if I if I get back, really sound like you don't care, like what men you will say, I don't get the funk were he doing? But they get that's me. I believe you when you say I just need my nothing and then you could go and never no, no, no, I only go to their house so I can leave because if they come to you,

they linger in. They don't linger. So I mean, if if I ever get back into a relationship like that, that's very committed. Um, it's cheating, a deal breaker. I don't know. I don't know. And that's the first time I've ever said that, Like, I don't know because they'll probably be me cheating. Oh ship, probably what about you? You know what I feel this, I feel the same as you like And I think it's because once you guys go through enough, you just you don't have that much.

You just have zero funx left to give you know what I'm saying. It's like, but I probably would. I think honestly, it would be easier for me to be like bye, yeah, you know what I mean. Where in the past it's like you all broken up and you're like, but I love you, so you know what I'm saying, And then now I would be like picking up when I'm over that hump because you like this, I'd be crack when I'm done. New dick really keeps the tears from Once I get sucked by somebody else, I'm like,

oh it's that bad. Yeah, but it's always But when you get older, you really feel like, you know, you don't have time for the drama. So if it's not working for you in every way, you're out, like you there's no need to continue with this nonsense. So the dick has to be good. How do you mean people now that? Okay? One, um, I feel bad to say this, but I don't know if you're famous before, but I

know we were. She was the first lady bench. She wasn't meet niggas in the church about me, you know what I mean, Like, I don't know video on were you really? Oh? Oh damn video videos? Wife? Let me find out whe I'm found your world start hip so happy one, it's not here right now. No, he actually encouraged me to do the video. Yeah yeah, yeah, he made me do the video. So like you're famous, you're on TV, you hit your divorce and you have kids, Like you can't just jump on an app like, oh no,

I don't do that. So how do you meet people? Um? Friends, friends, have friends and then but you don't feel like that, like you don't know, like it's a small town. What you mean girls still the d m V. They got Maryland, but you'll me knowing them? Have you seen ready to made nobody in d C? Yes, it's all right now, you know it's crazy. I always feel like, but here you have all the rich professional black men too, like I would I would move here. I think they here.

I ain't all do it. Don't don't go look look she said the young But then okay, so all the dudes that you are dealing with right now, they're never leaving. I know, so they always come back even when we're like, just said that, we just said so, I don't know they was gonna be here twenty years from now. My father told me, Um, I brought the person I've been dating. We've been Dane for three years, and I called him an old bad Mandy does. He's forty three, but uh,

my dad said to me, my dad likes him. My dad is a really thick Israeli accident. He goes, you know, if you get busy, you're making money, like this is your time. If you go, they come back. Yeah, was like, And I don't know what made him say that to me, And he kept trying to basically explained to me, like if you need to stop dating to work, Like He's like, don't let this mess up the work. And I think

maybe he saw me on a call. I mean, I have a lot of jobs, you know, he maybe saw me on a call doing something and like attending to him. And my dad was probably like, oh no, you know, and it's very true. Like I don't know what it is about the double back for men, but I think men place way more value. It's probably because we don't hurt them as bad as well. It's also if you think about it, men always come back and they know

we take them back. Unfortunately that's the problem. Like I just feel like they feel I feel like, especially when it's good, they'd be like, she ain't going nowhere. But men know a good thing when they have it and when they lose it. They especially know when they lose it, and then they with some real super crazy bitch that

ain't worth nothing. That's you know what I'm saying, Like they know so they so if you're worth something to them, like if they really appreciated your relationship and the time y'all spent together, they will never if you were good and bad, they ain't going nowhere, but they know when we're gonna get, you know, we're gonna get. There's a dude in my life. The guy went out with in l A. And I've been like trying not to sun him because I just don't want to get his started.

And he said to me the other day he took me to dinner and he was like, he was like, don't we I'm gonna try to come up. I was like, I ain't worried, and he was like, let me tell you something. When you suck me, finally you're gonna be buttering my bread. And that time we go bluttering, its like but those little ones that then you do it, you battering because we always got to dinner. But he was like you're gonna be You're like, what is that?

I know that did guy? When he said that, I was like, I know it's big, but that's gonna be the one like that you had that was that you stopped me the hell and we do your podcast when we do all showing like two three, Yes, Okay, it's about to get cold outside. Listen. I have a word. I don't want to know what people want to know. When it's the tour over, that's when the relationship is HL. You come to Atlanta December seventeen. We will also be in l A December three, Riving and Giselle. Thank you

so very much. I am so glad. The Days of the Week is your show? It Oh, but don't make his money, but don't make your Sunday your podcast? Which more you promoting in? Okay? We the way? Was it good? I mean, y'all can say now that it's over. Did y'all enjoy Nicki Minaj hosting the third reunion? Yeah, she did a good job. She did a great job. She was there all day like we didn't know, so she got there like noon. We did our normal reunion. She didn't appear to us until what about Yeah, probably yeah,

that night. From what I understand, she was nervous. She sounded nervous when she first came out. When she first started, I could feel that she was nervous. And after it was over, I was like, Nicky, you did great, and she was like, Giselle, I was nervous. Y'all stop ting to me out? I was ebuts me, Like, but can you imagine the reaction when she asking if people weren't happy, like as far as like you know, woke times today, Like I would be nervous too. Yeah, I'm not. You know,

I don't think. I don't think she's worried about that type of stuff. I would. You're a fan of the show, Like I was a little nervous now you know got out. I'm cool now, No, she's cool. So so what I appreciate about her, and hopefully it comes across when you when we when we watch her, um, it really felt like she really knows the show, you know what I'm saying. It wasn't like she's just there because she's Nicki Mina, just like, No, she's Nicki Mina and she's been watching

since day one. More people do that, like people that we know and like why don't Nick they have me do Nint today? Fiance, you know what I'm saying. I know you've been trying to get what's your favorite reality show? No, brother, Okay, I'm a little on. I like to watch Ragget TV. So I love love and hip hop. Oh Jesus, I do Likearet. No, well, I had to after she left, you know, Atlanta, I was done with her. But I did love a Stevie j Her, Joscelyn Hernandez moments. Those

were moments like we'll never forget them. Um, what a time. I love. I love the creep squad, the New York Um, alright, New York and wife. Yeah, I like a little wretch. If I had to guess, I'll show you by looking at you, I would guests rich divorce basketball wife, who'd be shading everybody at the dinner dust. If I was walking on the street and someone was like, they're on TV, I'd be like, oh, saying basketball wife. It's like Shanny, just like rich and pretty like we. Shanny's would have

passed her now. Ironically, by the way I saw her when I was on vacation in the Bahamas and I was trying not to stare, but I was like, Wow, you're just really on here with your friends, spending all that giving, not giving about still looking good. I love it. That's nice. She could go from shack you all his money and then live her life good. When can we listen to Reasonably Shady? I know y'all are like one year in, so congrat not even even I'm not even yes,

oh yes we do from the podcasters. Now, oh we love it. It's a lot of work. Yeah, it's work, but we love it. It's worth yes, but we love it because we are connecting with the viewers, the listeners and the viewers of the show, like, like I said, on a deeper level. So I love that. So we dropped on Monday every Monday. So after you listen to this show Horrible Decisions, make sure you'all tune into Reasonably Shady.

That is a black effect. I heart radio podcast. Uh just so Robin, thank y'all, thank you for not being some most because yeah altic bye guys. This has been yet another episode of horrible Decisions. That's what it was. I mean, a lot of kettles and pots. However, I mean my take on it was, of course, just the accountability part at the end of the day. Yeah, I guess we could sit here and sit on the fact

that we've all fell for niggas that wasn't shipped. But to me, at some point you have to be able to see who the person is when when they show you them. And first off, you were never the only one or the main one, me, me, the baby, mom and other women were also in the picture. Um. And then outside of that, he left you while you were pregnant, that's fair. Did you ever think that man could degrade you on Instagram live and put your baby on there

and keep you you while you were pregnant? And according to the family you also did you was already pregnant baby. Yeah, but you also didn't even show up for the baby shower. You didn't show up for me or the baby before the baby was here baby. So I just feel like, no to me, Like, that's the thing. We all date men with the lens of the idea of them or the potential of them, without really just acknowledging who the funk they are right in front of our eyes. But

what is she supposed to like? And here's the other thing I understand. He left her when she was pregnant. He didn't show up to the baby shower. Okay, she has the baby. He's like, y'all move in with me. It's your first kid. I'm gonna help you out. Who's gonna say no to that? Your emotions are crazy. I've never had a baby. You've never had a baby. We've only had friends with babies. Right, they're all fucked up

with hormones. And you're telling me I'm gonna say no to the father of my child in writing me in his home and possibly making it work. And granted she probably is in love with him, Like, no, dude, you're gonna recant the happy memories. What are you gonna do

start fucking with another nigga? No, you want to feel that community and that fatherhood and that feeling is crazy, because girl, the first baby mama that you've been back and forth ft she prayed it right now again, So you don't moved in with this figure and he's expecting another child with the woman that but she's supposed to do. She's supposed to be a grown ass woman. She wasn't supposed to sell her home in l A to move half across the country where she knows nobody, has no friends.

She said that that's why I took her so long to even leave the house. Like to me, no, I'm sorry, it's a grown ass woman. This is being hasn't showed up for you. So for you to put all of all of your hope into this man who hasn't been able to show up for you since at some point, you gotta you gotta fault yourself. I think that you can't say that when someone's just had a baby. I think you could say that for someone to like it's just with and they've been in love, Like we've said this,

and this is a problem with Danny. She probably thought that baby was gonna get them back together. A lot of people keep a baby, have a baby and hope that it makes a bond stronger or but or a man can show up differently. We didn't see how the same way of a girl that just had her first child. She's young, the same. It's the same way, and I'm gonna say it, it's the same shing I said about Summer Walker and her he has album. Yeah, you sat here and argued with all the other baby mama's thinking

that you was gonna be different. Danny thought because she was a yellow bone she was gonna be treated different than he did. But and and trust me. And I saw this tweet from Crystal that I really liked. It was like, y'all really got me sticking up for this. He want me because I'm yellow bitch, because that's how trash the baby is. But you're saying that we know this, he ain't gonna stay blah blah blah. Mandy, she she was twenty four, like I think she's twenty five now

or six? Like do you really like, can you really say that? But that's what I'm saying, Like, can we and by we, I mean people that say you should know better? Can we really say that if you've already been through a shitty situation with a nigga, Like the girl is young, I just don't And I really feel like he exploited her. I feel like what he did

was fucked up. I just don't like using that young excuse for someone who's twenty six, because we still have niggas in their thirties and forties who's still learn Like to me, no, there's a lot more resources now. There's a lot of people telling you what to do, what not to do. There's you've sat here and been dragged by the Internet. You've seen how bad this man has treated you over the years. It's been in your face.

And she literally said she was like, I feel so bad that I didn't listen to the internet, the fact that you have to be like, damn Internet, you was right. Everyone was telling you. You chose to ignore all the red flags. We just spoke about how everybody was posting the red flags. Bit them. Ships was flaming hot. They wasn't even off off white. They wasn't even hot pink.

They was read the whole time. Like so to me, No, at you're eighteen year an adult, you're twenty, you're twenty one, you're twenty two, you're twenty five or twenty six, you're thirty or thirty one. I'm not gonna just call someone in their twenties, late twenties, mid twenties young. Oh my god, it's not like she's in high school. I