Ep 242: To Infinity and Beyond (Ft. Holly & Dolla)

That was my goal? She literally, should I wear fully hold this up? Yeah? I'm excited guys. Today I am joined actually by some friends of mine that I met in the at a party. Um so we are joined today by Holly and her boyfriend Dolla. And it's even more than boyfriend. But we'll get into how you, guys identify your relationship because that's why I asked you guys to come. You have a very good like male sex operator voice. Right, let's practice really quick with that. Okay,

let me try, okay, let me turn around. See on getting nervous? Oh yeah, is this the black mail from New York. Wow, what do I call you? I mean, I thought Jamal would be fun. You know, you just you just went real tipical. You say Dick. I was like, I thought she was gonna get more interesting than Jamal. So I gave us some room if they paying for it, I feel like one of the names. So I guess before we get into y'all's relationship dynamic, which is what this is going to be about, I guess we can

talk about a little bit how we met. Okay, So we were at a party. So and I thought I had game, by the way, but you thought I had. I thought I had game, Like I was about to give you my best, Like, hey girl, you want some gummies? Ain't you flipped it on me? Okay? Really? Okay? So y'all know I've been into drugs lately, um, pretty much all of them except for the white people. When like,

I don't know, yeah white not in Atlanta. I think, like, like you know, but like any kind of like ecstasy, m D m A was definitely white people drying when Molly sweat, and I think they made it very when rappers started doing Molly. I think that's when everybody was like, oh well, now we can also tell people we are well. Yeah. I was another thing about molly too. It's one of those drugs that got out of your system really quickly.

So I remember back when I was working athletes and ship dem niggas was popping molly during the reason because like it was if they got tested, their test was really for marijuana. Of course, I mean still now, but because they knew how quickly got out of their system, like they was popping that ship all when they came and played the heat baby. Um. But yeah, we were at a party and this this party was actually I thought it was a sex party, like that's funny. I went.

So I was invited by other friends in the lifestyle that actually throw parties. Yeah, mutual friends of ours. So they was like, yeah, we got this party on Sunday, and I said cool. So me and my man we pulled up and we were just drinking. It was outside, it was good vibes, it was sucking. It was a wonderful party. So of course I got I started getting

drunk because that's what I do. When I got out, and were you just sitting by me like I think we just feel I feel like we just started conversation and you were, like she met my energy, like y'all see I'm talking like that. This is. I was like, well, hey, like you did you think you were going to a sex party? Like no, no, no, So I knew it was kind of like I had been. So I see why you thought it was a sex party because they usually, like that particular venue, actually throw the host play parties.

So that night we actually knew it was just kind of like a chill party. But we still like, don't get like, we still did like sex party things like b y O B. And we were the only ones who bought a bottle so and so shot like a full bottle, like not only small pocket type of bottle. So it wasn't a sex party, but um, you met

people in the lifestyle that night. Yeah, and then like she said they were, there were friends of ours who were and still regular crazy about it is they throw this party on Sundays almost as a way to find new people to come to the sex night. So so they really curate. They wanted to be a really good looking night with a lot of mix. So any guys, Yeah, why are you guys here? Why are you guys on? Horrible? I want to finish because I started that was how I promise I will wrap this story up like like

I said. I was like, oh yeah, like she's you, i'mbout have some gummis, you know, some gummies like I'm thinking about the like you know, there's some gummies and we're gonna chop it up. And she was like, yeah, but I don't want like a whole gummy. You're gonna have to like split it with me. I said, just give me the ear right right right. It was like a sour patch kid, and She's like, I just want the ear and I'm thinking, like where is the ear?

It's gotta be like I was like, it's not gonna be anything in it, but so and I told you, like when I go out, my man is really big on like watching how much drugg and take drink and take I do. So I said, come here, come split this gummy with us, and we split the gummy in a three way. Kids like, well, that's cute, adorable and sexy and raunchy and so cute like all at the same time, like O the thing. And then she was like quick, quick, like give me a number for like

and I was like, that's genius. I exchanged numbers with her and we just started talking. But I guess as we like kept talking. We've hung out a few times, we eat, they joined me at the beach like had just bomb mass times. But y'all explained to Wheezy, how you guys explained your relationship because me, but you got a bunch of people watch wok out and we want to know because your man is next to you and you had a three way kids so we were assuming lasting, right,

She thought I was alone. He was chilling so hard, like like she was like, I didn't even know you're here with someone because he was just like, oh yeah, no, I was chilling, where's my gummy? And I was like I want one? I wanted three way kiss? And then him and my man started talking to became friends to talking. Yeah, what brings you guys to horrible? Okay? So um our our relationship? Right? I guess like you want to know how we classify funny enough? Like the one word I

would use to classify our relationship is customized. Customized relationship. How long have you been together? Um? Six years, six going on seven? Do kids together? No? No, we don't have any kids. We um, we're sucking too much now we're really we're probably traveling too much for kids, but and like we have a few businesses together, so we're doing a lot kids. Yeah, they don't pay their own bills, right, so we've got to really be able to afford them.

So it's not polly, it's not open, it's not swinging. What is the name that y'all used though? Okay, So I mean some of some of those things do encompass, like our relationships. So I say lifestyle or like lifestyles who are open. And the reason why I'll say that or we say that is because like lifestyles are usually like you know, like swingers that like either date together as a couple or have like you know, a unicorn or like you know, a third or even a fourth

sometimes um. And that's kind of usually where it starts and stops. And then for us, we're like, we're lifestyle is like we date together, but we're also open because we date separately, open in what way? Like what is we have open relationship as well in addition in the lifestyle, but we also date separately as far as like romantically, emotionally or just sex. Yeah, no, I guess all of those things if you Yeah, I mean we don't have

like tons of other relationships because we really don't. How far into the six years did you get to that point? Oh that was from gate really, so you started your relationship open Yeah, definitely a lot of people don't. That takes time for like trust and yeah, I mean we've known each other adult life. We met at Howard like so open right, and it's going on six years, so obviously it's going well. Yeah when it's pretty cool initially, Like Doll, I want to know, have you ever done

this before? Because people are always curious, not so much with the women. I mean even on our show they're listening to two women that are open right, But like men, we're always confused how you let your girl sucking other niked? And how do you deal with it? Like? Had you done it before? Was it something I hadn't um? It

was something that was interested in but I had never experienced. UM. Holly was the first person that I had a three somewhere, and it was like something I had wanted to do, But honestly, none of the girls that were before I wanted to ship me. So it was like one of those things where it was like just it was I was interested but never could find the avenue of the lane. So um, it was it was something that she was interested in. So it was you know, it was it was.

It worked for us and then um, you know, it actually blossom beyond that and just we we were both interested in their lifestyle. So it was something that we We're gonna piggyback off of that, just to kind of like backtrack a little bit. We started out as like friends, like buddies in college, right, so like that was always the dynamic between the two of us for ten years. It was like, you know, we had our own like separate relationships. Oh yeah, we were six It is so good. Yeah,

so um, so again we were always friends. And then like six some of seven years ago, we found ourselves like both both single at the same time, and instead of being like, let's lock each other down, we're like, can't we just still be like friends that are like together. But like, as your feelings grew, had you ever and I'm curious with you dollar, had you ever had moments of jealousy the more like in love you felt of Holly where you were like I don't know if I

can handle it. No, not a not not really a jealousy thing because, um, I like I like to see her have fun. Um Man, it's always been in like you know, in a in a fun atmosphere outside of us, playing in the lifestyle atmosphere. You know, the people she sees outside of me is you know, on her own. So I'm not really a jealous person. That's not really you know, really one of those things in my very big dig thing to say, you know what I mean

without saying like table you're gonna come back? Not right, yes, in the way that what you're saying, Like you know, we've been in a long time, right, so like somebody she could suck somebody, they could give us some great Dicky can't outfunck me like you know, not not with her. I know her body too well, Like you know, I could enjoy your road lap. Well, the last time we had a couple on again shout out to Jared and Shambooty,

we played an icebreaker. So I do want to ask some questions although we've kind of broken quite the ice already. UM I wanted to ask some relationship questions to you guys. So the first question is, what is one fantasy you want to try that you haven't really told your partner about and if not, if you have already shared your fantasies, how do you share them with him? Can I answer

both of those? Oh yes, look look water look He's like, yes, Um, I have a like I have this like director of fantasy like where I'm like, you know, directing like this like dough fast, like the video of him and like ten chicks, right, and I'm telling everybody what to do and like and in the video like I'm in the video directing too, because a bit of a narcissist, so

I want to be in it too. But I'm really just kind of like right, I'm just really kind of like you know, telling like her used like a thick and like use it on his face, like I kind of just want to like you said ten ten women, Okay, it's like you could actually do this. The reason why? So this is how I got to ten, because like that's the number. We haven't really gotten to the most y'all have gotten to? Ah, have you counted before? How many women at one? Not in a day? Yeah? A night?

Oh yeah, and a day like eight or ten? It depends like at a party. I mean you know, I ain't been any of them like that. Now, explain what you mean by a party can be intense? Like just assuming that someone who's listening to this like has no deal with these parties are like what is intense? Because anybody might be like, if I walk into a sex club,

I'll be like, oh, this ship intense. Out the gate is the fact that I was at the bar just ordering a drink with the bottle that I brought in and I looked to the right stool and someone was getting head. As that as being my first experience, I thought that I was like, oh, ship, this is intense.

So yeah, what do you mean As a lifestyler who goes quite often, how do you feel like something would be considering the party I was talking about with more like private parties that can you know that that will get intense because people more so know each other and more comfortable. But he means all the dick he ends up having it throw at a party like that. That's

when when he said intense, that's what he met. But like you get talking about but for the sex clubs, I mean, you know it really it really depends on the layout. Um, certain places, you know, it's we typically don't play at most at most places. You know, we live in the city, so most of the parties we go to we can, we go to how people that's kind of right. Um, nothing, we don't or haven't ever,

but like, yeah, we do. Usually the vibe is like we're just chilling, drinking, like meeting people and then like and then it later. What about you? Have you shared your fantasies with Holly? Do you have any that you haven't played out with her yet? No? I don't think so. It's funny that she said her fantasy is kind of one of my fantasies because I haven't been with that many women at month, so you would you would not be intimidated by ten women? No, alright, alright, big dick niggah.

Next question, how does your partner? What does your partner do that turns you on that they don't know about? H m hm, that we don't know about. That's the hard y'all. Y'all pretty much know each other. I mean, we know each other so well, but um, one thing Holly probably doesn't. She might not know as well as I like, I love watching home work room when we're in in the social atmosphere, because you know, she's a social butterfly. So I mean she might know that with hair.

I don't know how I know she. I don't know if that's something she knows as much. But like I like, I'm just sitting back and watching her do her thing because like I don't really have to, you know, I can be in the corner, rolling up, chilling, you know, doing nothing, and I might speak to you know, people that I know, but Hollywood like working room meet meet people. She's like, oh, this person does this and like introduced me to people. So she's definitely like, I enjoyed that.

I love that. You pretty much just wanted to what my third question was gonna be. It was gonna be about, clearly, you're the extrovert, you're the chill person. What is the best scenario you would suggest for a couple to be in a sex club if they're going with their partner. Do you suggest the woman be more outspoken or do you do feel like sometimes it's better for the man to take the lead. Um, I'm gonna I'm gonna take

this one. Um, Honestly, in my experience, it's like, like you pointed out, I'm the extrovert, he's the he's more like the chill reserved one. I think the best advice I could get two couples is like have that balance, like if someone you know, if you're both shy, like somebody's gonna have to rochambo that ship. You're gonna have to like someone's got to step it up because, like you know, it's a very social environment and like women

run it. To be honest with you, So to answer the other part of your question, if you know, ladies, if you can be the one to be like hey, like you know, I'm interested or we're interested, or you know whatever, it's best in that environment because you know, women kind of make all the rules. And like clubs, though, where do you think, um, it's the best place for someone that may not have access to a sex club

or they may not be into sex clubs. Like have you guys had situations where you've met people outside of that and like where does that happen? Absolutely, like a lot of like a lot of folks who are you know, not necessarily lie sise, but friends of ours are very curious and they're just like, you know, can we come with you to to a party or like you know, like if it's kind of asking the question you just asked, like, if I wanted to go to like a play party,

like which one should we go to? Are you guys are going to one? We're coming like you know what I mean? So and if anything, if they're interesting, they're more likely to probably play with than strangers. Funny enough, Um no, no, actually, wait no, now that I think I've got so many friends that ye know, you are more out to be like I want to play with with other people, mainly because those folks tend to be like, oh that's so crazy. You guys are so wow to

your Tuesdays, your Sundays are nuts. So I guess I don't know if it makes them so more comfortable to like, you know, have their wild moments with like someone who isn't as to be able to come back and be like, girl, yeah, you know what I mean. I mean, I didn't even have the name exactly. We didn't even know the names of people most of the time that we played with, so like you could go back and be like, hey, so having beat before, I wouldn't even know. But I

do want to get into our vanilla ship. Guys. Are vanilla ship for this week? Is quite funny considering we've been talking about swollen balls for probably the last three episodes because of Nicki minaj Um, but this one actually refers to a single man aged thirty eight, who had his swollen penis freed by doctors two weeks after he locked it inside of a small padlock. That is right, guys.

A boardman stuck at home during the pandemic was rushed to the hospital after getting a padlock stuck around his penis and a bizarre sex at gone wrong. The bachelor thirty eight clamped the metal device around the base of his manhood for a thrill around two weeks ago, but he lost the key and his limbs started to swell. He tried, he tried, unsixed. He triedfully to remove the small lock um so left it on his penis for more than fourteen days until it became infected and the

pain was unbearable. The embars man's mother, who tried to help him, called the emergency services and firemen to his home. Um. This took place last month, and of course you guessed it not Florida, Bangkok, Thailand. I was gonna say, can we play guests this raceman? You thought it was white. You thought I was like, you know, you know, but why a white guy in Thailand? Right? She could be.

She told the medics that her son did not have a girlfriend and was simply bored because he had been staying home during the COVID nineteen Oh I've never looked out a lot. Okay, let me ask you though, because we've talked about women using cucumbers. If you're just around your house, your board and haven't gotten sex, has there been any object you've just been like, let me put my dick inside of this? Oh you two edding? No? Never American never even after American pie. I wish that.

It's so funny, that's all I mean. I'm not, Yeah, you're not. But when you were a kid, I mean we also an American pot, but you never were Like what would that be like? It'd be hot, like just I don't know. I mean, a pie is warm, I get it, but it's not not burn your dick. What about like what about like a jar of vesseline? Wouldn't that be like a cool feeling because it's kind of room? Can we don't have? You just don't know what? Just

have some words? Can't pussy? What would you use around the house to put your dick in I just use my hand, your hand, Yeah, maybe you could just stick a bunch of Yeah, I guess. Okay. Well, so after I was I was thinking of this like toothpaste, like lotion to you, just keeping about singing and yeah, if you had what fruit would you put your brands? Yeah? I heard that's too much acid you don't want and the easiest right, Oh you're good, you're smart. Is that

wet wet you know? You know, okay, the seedless watermelons, you know, even though that has to be man made. But anyway, y'all always wonder why how five years later we're still talking about ship that we just don't understand. So I actually ended up was like, damn a lot, and I know you're seeing here like not ain't nothing I could think of. So I went digging, digging and looking. I said, well, what are other alternatives for cop cages?

And I came across actually locked in lust dot com. Um, this is not an AD, but they just had alternatives and I was like, oh, ship, one of which is actually a spiked anti pull out. And I wanted to bring this up because I was just like, who the funk they do? Like when you reverse? Yeah, they do also have padlocks. Surprisingly, so I don't think this man was far off. They do have padlocks for men. They have crotch rocket strap ons and all these other things.

But I wanted to read about the anti spike pull out because it's actually something that as you get hard, it forces you to go back soft. So it says, um, but sohment b d SM. So these spikes, uh. It says that these devilish little spikes will ensure that your slave will get a painful reminder for any unauthorized directions. So this is something. It's a real thing. Like Reay and I have talked about this even at some of

our live shows. It's the perfect accessory to give you more control and remind your slave that you can deliver pleasure or pain to their penis anytime you wish. But basically, the spikes are added pleasure only. Please, This is a pleasure only please. Yeah, Like what about there is a fettle things like maybe biting right, like snibbling on a dick.

Do you like your bite? Don't? Don't? Don't step on what I mean, whatever you would like a little bit For example, like women mate like they're like they're clips spring or something. Like that is there, I like a good choking, like a like a good yeah, I'm talking about the genitals. Yeah, oh yeah, but I'm so like, there's nothing. There's nothing. Just listen. I mean, I mean you could slap it on your face. By the way, does that feel good or is it more so just

within your head? It does feel okay, So there is there is a bit of a sensation, right, because you figure you have like that if you get a good slap, right, you're getting under part of the head, on the head, you know, you get that that good you know, then you get that sensation on the on the under part of your especially if she was sucking it. Now it's wet. Always thought it was like a dude's just ego, just like slapping the ship out of it. Do you actually

like the feeling? Interesting? There is there is a feeling and then you figure if you if she's holding it, if she slaps herself with it, then you know, you get that the the rush from the rush of the blood. Yeah, exactly, come on, slave. She was like, I don't know what's Yeah, you're just like, I am not mad, well I wanted to I'm definitely going to end up passing the horr dirve to the two of you. So our horr derve

segment is a sex tip. I would love not only each of you to share a sex tip, but you are one of the very few couples that I know has kind of been able to juggle successfully a unicorn. So a lot of people ask how to get third, So I also want to ask you all that. But let's start off with sex tips. I feel like you just gave us one, So Holly, give us a sex tip, and then we're gonna get into, uh, sex tips with unicorns.

It could be um for women, men women and women, dick second tips something you want people to know what you and pussy whatever? Oh okay, um. I think the only tip I would give is, like, you know, keep it fun, like do do something like interesting how often? Like all the time, like fine, like something super random like baby fits you're like over here and like you know, like find different ways for him to go deeper, like such his dick upside down like a bridge. What's the

last different ship Holly did that? You were like, oh my god, because I'm sixty years well sixteen years of sucking, right, is there still ship that are that is new for both of y'all. Yeah, it's still and we're always like we're ridiculous. We're like, oh, ship, what was that like? And we're like just like random places, you know, the whole way, Like Holly really likes sucking on the hallway, really your apartment on it no, like in the crib, like just like I'm sorry, I can't tell you what

that's about. But like he'll just like if we're passing each other in the hallway, like we're going to do different things, like he may be going it's really into the kitchen, right and then if he's just like if we can't pass each other and he can't, like you know, Pasco and just has to grab me and slamming against the wall in the hallway, like you just have to have me right now? That ship not fu me to past go? Does she collect two as well? I collect a lie to each other in the life? What are

you telling me? Y'all? Fus so much and it's so intense still all these years later that you can pass each other in the hallway and I think that's so interesting and I'd love to hear that that's okay. Uh, Like the sex could get boring after having sex with the same person for for so long, you guys also have sex with other people. Does that you think affect keeping y'all sex life so spicy? The fact that you can go out and have sex with others and come

back to each other. I mean it's definitely futual, Like do you know what type of sex you have after like kind of doing like a replay of like what kind of sex you just had? Like oh, yeah, I remember when you were back like make you guys want to suck each other more like when you Yeah, absolutely, And it's usually happens like separately because if I'm having bad sex and he's around, I'm like, hey, you know,

like come come take care of this. Definitely, I've definitely seen that in a place situation and it's like I'm like, oh damn, she's not having that much fun about I got to wrap this up really mean that, you know, that's the main thing. Now You're this is a scenario where you're looking, but I'm curious to know if you guys do mmf three somes? Do you enjoy that too? With that? Was that funny enough? That was our intro to the lifestyle, which is so different from how it

usually happens. It's usually like the girl who's like, oh yeah, let me bring in another girl. So like when I realized I could, I could like be in the Laft style with Dollar, was like, um, one day we pulled up on a friend of his that I didn't I hadn't met yet. This is like six years ago. Um, and this friend like he was just like you know, like speaking to his homie like and this friend was fine, like fine fine, Like I'm like like what yes, he was so hot and like he like he knows me.

This is my boy, like right, and he like he knows me, like we're best friends. So like I didn't have to say a word. He's like checking out the brawl, like you interested. He's like he's because I'm looking at like both of them looking back and forth like d him, you know, because we're always taught you gotta choose right, and he like right, like menny, damn, I want them both right. So so he hit me with the like whit, like why choose white? Pick? And how I was supposed

And I was like come again and if you yes black? Yeah, we have a black sitting here saying black wet gave it away, but Holly did not. I'm not very good at giving away the black via recordings. Hi i am I'm black black. Did your friend Had you and your friend ever done something like that before? Oh yeah, not not at the same time, but you figured, like we grew up together, so we grew up in the same neighborhood.

There were girls that you know, we had, Like you had that too, Like so I knew, Like I wasn't surprised that she was into him because it was like we cond you and him, right, So y'all hadn't done that, but you kind of set that up and like I'm assuming you and him didn't even talk about it. You just know your girlfriend, so you like whatever, and since she was your girl right at the time, so we were we were kind of just friends. We all reconnected.

We were like, we're working again. It was like, like, so he you know, was there a conversation that you had after? So the thing is a lot of women even are scared to ask for it because they automatically think that their partner is going to look at them different or disrespect them. Was that a conversation that y'all have to have before or after? Like did you have

that conversation before after? So both both we have that conversation like beforehand, because again I wasn't gonna ask and I'm bold, like I've always been very very like you know, straightforward, like this is what I wanted them to go get it. But I was still kind of like, I'm like, I don't know, proball talk to him later, Like I wasn't gonna be like, oh, give me your boy's number, but he legit was like, you know, like I guess set

that up for you. You don't have to choose, like you know, you could chill, which I had never ever like heard of before seeing I've always seen us be in that position, you know, where it's like, oh yeah, let me bring my friends through, but never had I like, you know, this is best friends, right, come on, but

this is Mark. So the other part of that is like we we never really like we weren't seeking out a relationship when when he and I like reconnected, and I think that's what made us kind of accidentally on purpose form some kind of like relationship because it was just like it naturally like organically happened because we're friends. We're friends who were really close and we just kept

getting closer and closer. We we we were always friends. So um, I was concerned about like there being like a lack of respect loss like this is his best friend, right what I mean, So aside from being worried about what he would think, I'm like, Yo, this is your boy, you know, rags are like, oh yeah, no, I hit that that so like that never happened, Like he never ever ever like treated me differently. It was never like that, Shorty,

We both smacked none of that. Like he to this day like has always had like the utmost respect for me and kept me like you know, like family, like you know, like just very very close like he has of him, but like never ever try to like play me or sledge amy or anything like that. Let's talk about the I need to know how that ship was. So you guys had a conversation and you guys end up looking like did you feel like since that was your first time doing that together, were you like I

gotta give him more attention? Like yeah, then I was like, damn, I need a few more friends, Like I just want to like one like they were both really great. But then too, I was just like, I mean I wanna like I want to share. How how did the Knights start off? Like when you did you planning, I'm not gonna lie night. You guys spoke about Molly. That was like the last back when we were ya got it up for you, right, you need to mom Molly? And then eight ten years ago days, Oh yeah, that's why,

that's why, that's why I pay. That's exactly why we doubt it's because it was different now and anybody listening they may not know what we're talking about. So like, um, you know, Molly is a form of n D M A, which has been known as ecstasy, but ecstasy now is a form of who knows what you're gonna get. There's some m d m A but it's just a pressed

bill and molly is little crystals. They could be yellow, they could be brown, they could be clear, and people always say they know it's good depending on the color, and we all don't really know. They washed, they changed the color. It's like all mixed up. We really don't know what you're gonna get. But what we do know is that uh, ten years ago when they started making crystallized m d m A and taking it and extracting and not having it be ecstasy anymore, and it was

this new thing. That's when people were getting a different version of what they are now. However, something I was also reading similarly is like you did Molly ten years ago. I did it ten years ago. You did it ten years ago. There's also people will chase that high. It's like a crack thing. You may never feel that first one again. So whereas you might be like this ship is trashed, someone who never had is like, oh my god, like three months ago there was a was amazing and

all both got enough ship. So you guys, where were you when you were at his house? Where you not the So you're like, how do I start this? Yeah? Hell yeah, I'm to this day. I don't care how much of a like a zet or a like, I don't give a damn. You're always like, Okay, how do I start? How is this going to start? It's it's always like the junior high, like dance, like do I get out there first? Do I wait for someone else to start dancing? Like that ship? So um, I'm sitting

in the middle of them. I do I do? I do? That's what that's your party party check, like you just pull the I wish I had gone in that easy anyway. Um, that's why I go to Um. So I'm sitting in the middle of the two of them were like watching TV. Nobody's watching this TV, but we all know why we're here.

I'm why we're here now, so um I think um I started making out like Dollar was to my to my right, and I started making out with Dollar and I kind of like start like choking my homies right and like we like and then I'm then I started because that that was the fantasy. I was like, I

just want to stroke two dicks so quick. If this all doesn't work out tonight, at least I got to do this thing out that does look like like a workout, right definitely shake weights like m not really but you know, I'm but I was just like, yeah, I can read my name, Like I'm like I can, Yeah, I can do it, baby. Yeah that was more that's my night.

Um um okay, so I um, I'm like I'm making out with and the holmie starts like kissing me on my neck and then like it just kind of really spoted from there and then I'm giving him head and then I'm giving him head and like well, like I'm getting the honeyhead like that was fingering me or eating me out, and then like when I switched, like when for the rest of the night it was just kind of like a yeah, like a seesaw, like, oh, that's true, it was to see okay. So for the rest of

the night, it's kind of like that. And there they shared so well, you know, everyone waited their turn and like you know, got in where they fit in, and it was really good. I think about with like um three, but I always think about the weird ship, Like when I think about a sex fret, I'm like, what do they eat there? When I think about I want to know, I think about a nigga talking to me right, and

then I think about another nigga. They gotta like say something better, And then like are they talking to each other? Are they talking about how good my pussy is? And if they don't have a conversation about it, is my pussy whack? What's going on? What are y'all just thinking the one nigga is just talking about how good my pussy is? Oh, it ain't for you. Then we're like, what's going on? That's a good question. I be thinking, can you think of something that happened, And did you

all talk to me? Did you compare the dick sizes we all do all we always do okay with like no matter what we all do. I guess you know, it's fun. You know, it was really fun. It wasn't like a one was bigger than the other. It was like different, like one was like and I was like, okay, awesome, like everybody went, you know, and so we're because that's been my conversation. Like it's not like I'm also not only super shallow with like the look like like it

has no I don't want a skinny curby dick. I don't want a short one like and so literally, yeah, well literally when I went to I just went to a sex club in Atlanta, and like I was making out with this girl. She was beautiful, but she was a don but her man looked like a spartan. He was gorgeous, like six seven had it up a whole like tribal thing. I was like, oh my god, Jakeson MoMA was here and but he was a black version and so I was like I knew I had to

go to her to get to him. And so we all started playing together and went so what I knew I had to go to her to get to him. I did. That's how it kind of works in fun position. I'm the her that usually you got to go, and so I can tell that they for sure wanted to play together. So I was like, okay, but when we started all playing, we both went to jack his dick off at the same time, and I swear to god, I saw it going like this, and I just dropped my hand. I said, I ain't even gonna jack this

little kind of thing. And it was hard, I'm saying, just like I'm tired. No, I was just like, as soon as yeah, I dropped my hand, continued making out with her, which I was just like, girl, you were realistic. So my whole thing you do a real quick if you were going to a sex club, I know it looks slutty and beautiful, and just think you look like Jessica Rabbit. Please do not wear red or maroon or

dark colored lipstick to the fucking sex clubs. Girl I was leaving, I looked like my whole mouth had a rash, but it was just her lipstick all over and I was just like read you know, saying, and I'll tell you people will buy Matt thinking it's better for making out.

It's harder to get out of skin. Not do Matt if you're going out with your home girl, I mean, well, hopefully you get to go home with someone too, But if you're going out and you don't expect to me making out, Matt is better for long or laster stay or like if you're whatever, you're at work, if you're about to make out, do not just buy the regular ship. Yeah, it's just bitch, especially because I go up even even gloss glitter. There's certain things you just want to stay

away from at the sex club. I think glitter is a very big one. But yeah, even uh, lip gloss. Yes, it looks good. It might glisten under the fucking galaxy lights, but now when you kiss, it's sucking sticky. And do you know any girls on a kiss? And I'm just been like, we gotta get from the first kiss and then we gotta wipe it off and then go back to kissing. I'm like, bitch, what was the purpose of this?

You look good without need just like a squeege funny the night I met you, that happened to you and I was like wiping it off. Yeah, I had gloss. Well, once I found out it wasn't a sex party, I wanted to look cute. I went down there and I said, why is no one Why is no one naked? And they were like, oh, it's not that type of party tonight. I said, Oh, I'm just here for a party. I got so mad, and you guys have a party party. No. I got so mad. But then by the time I

was so drunk I didn't even know. I like molested my man in the corner and like wait, she's like, it's not really We'll be here much longer. You guys enjoy the rest of the party. Outside of sex parties, you guys have the open relationship. Um, what's your piece of advice for couples listening that have been curious about it that are watching you and relationship? Yeah, just for

like a new Definitely have the open communications. Yeah, you gotta talk to each other because if you want to have things outside of yourselves, you have to have that comfortability with each other first. If you don't have that foundation, it's going to be really hard because it's always going to be that doubt. Like the thing that I think makes it easy for the two of us is that we don't have the doubt because we have the time

proven to we have that trust. We have that I know, I know she has my back, she knows I have a back. Do you think and this is a controversial question, but some people say they're open, but the woman won't sleep with other men. Do you believe that's an actual open relationship, because to me, that's a boundary set You can't fun out the niggers, you can suck out the bitch. So I mean, I think that would Sorry, I think that would depend on who that boundary is set by. Yeah,

good point. Yeah, And that's like, that's exactly like what I would say about that. Remember I told you guys earlier, like our relationship is customized. I think every relationship should be. And one thing we noticed when we joined the lifestyle is that everything we did was so different from how

everyone did, like their version of the lifestyle. Like every single relationship had like, you know, different like boundaries and different like you know, some were like, oh, we don't kiss, you know what I mean, or like, oh, we don't play unless we're in the same room together. There were a lot of things that we were like, oh, okay, I mean I think a few times we've gone to

the beach, it's like become a class with them. Like I've sat there with my man and we we just asked them questions, Like we've sat and asked both of them questions. And you guys, uh, I want to get into this as well, because I think this is major outside of just threesomes. Um, you guys have successfully achieved a unicorn to to an aspected I want to know that betty process will look like, like, how do you

get a unicorn again? For the people listening, take out your pens and papers, guys, this is home mail for everybody. Put your applications in there. Kidding. Um, well, okay, and the unicorn refresher is a single person joining in with a couple. Yeah. Um, First things first, all pointed this out earlier, but I just want to reiterate because it's really important. We've seen situations fall apart due to this.

Before you bring someone else into your relationship, please make sure your ship is solid, because it is going to be catastrophic when you like bring another person into a big old bottle of mess, and it's going to expose the ship out of your mess to each other and it's ugly visible to that person exactly. You want to have that coesive Definitely. When I had a unicorn guy, yeah, I remember. Um. The first thing that I didn't realize I was doing was we were both venting to him

about why we were mad at each other. And it wasn't necessarily like we are and our good day to day, but those little things we never really fixed. Always like we're both calling the damn nigga. Why you ain't answering the phone? You on the phone with her because I'm mad at a bit, you know what I mean? And it wasn't smart, Like you can't do that to your unicorn. It's not fair. That's a lot of stress for them

to take. Yeah, I remember, this is a friend of yours that's like coming over and like you know, either coming over to your house or coming inside of your bedroom, and like, you know what I mean, it's not your therapist, you know, it's not your your couple's counselor it's not fair to put them in that position, like don't like get someone and then cause them to like choose between the two of you because I could just date you separately.

Like we we've had situations where like that where it's like, you know, we could just there are certain situations where oh yeah, like we can see this person together or you know that's you know, that's your bit um, Like you know, I keep over there, okay two where you felt like maybe a unicorn was coming in only being nice to you to be with him. Um. So I've seen that happen to other couples a lot of times. What ends up happening with us is like I'm like,

you know, like remember the term like chick Dickley. Yeah, Like I was just kind of like mostly Dickley, but I like, I like women, like I love women so like, but like when it comes to women, I'm just kind of like really chilling cash And like he's like the ultimate boyfriend, Like he's such a good boyfriend, like he can like if you spend like twenty four hours with him, you will swear like you know, we got together and

he loved me right. And I've seen him like just like the dig at a chicken, she's just looking at him like, oh my gosh. That. I really do think men should be doing for unicorns as long as that boundary set, because a lot of unicorns are attracted to the couple's relationship, not just like I think you're pretty, I think he's cute. I like what y'all are doing exactly.

So if you start treating me differently, which is another reason why I don't like when women put too many stipulations on it, because if I'm attracted to the essence of this, and then nigga can't do certain things, like it's like I'm getting pieces of the things that I'm actually attracted to, which I agree with. Um. Funny enough, our unicorn um taught us this term the other day, and I promised I wouldn't forget what it was. Um,

it's a compulsion. Yeah, yeah, we talked about it. Yeah, and I think it's so dope because pleasure and your partner having p yeah, and like one thing, okay, so everyone, I was like, if you have like a shitty situation, like bringing someone else in, we'll e suppose that you have a beautiful situation bring someone else, and we'll suppose that too. And for us, like in our experience, we've been noticing like we already adore each other, like we like you see it, like we have a secret language.

Were ridiculous, it's Chris Um but they even have matching tattoos. Guys, And I know we talked about tattoos. Can you what the name of your tattoo? That's so it's it's andinamony, just like how many we love each other? Girl? Yeah? Right, like thank you now. But it's so cute that like I want to throw up in a good way. Oh my god, I hey you guys, what are you doing later? No, fullshit,

that's a real thing. Like I saw a couple of the airport recently, and I remember thinking they were so cute about little things, like he was attracted to me, she was cool with it. It was very obvious, and U she refilled his drink while he was talking to me a little things. I was like, oh, ye'all are

making me sick. But also right, like that ship is very sexy to people, and it's infectious, like it makes you not necessarily in the way of like oh I want exactly what they have, but like I want something like that for myself, like I want, you know, and being around that type of environment, being around people who are like that like helps you kind of you know. I'm not sure we get out of here. How messy has it gotten though? Um, who's been like I need

this nigga. Oh you know, it's wild it It hasn't gotten messy like for us, like which is like high five, like we always because we're so close. We just know like when some ship's gonna get weird. And it's never really gotten messy in the lifestyle or with like you know a third it's usually the outside like relationship. Oh my god, I'm glad you brought that up, like said that, like go like again going on double dates and talking to just people that are in this, like there's the

least amount of judgment. Like our said, I felt like I was asking you how to take me to school when we was at the beach. I was like, and so, how do I do this if this happens? How do I communicate about this what I like and what I

don't like? And one of the the craziest things is, although yes, there's so many people involved in your relationship, um, it is one of those while people think immediately, oh, someone's gonna come in and steal you away from someone, it is really the complete opposite with so many people that are pure lifestyle And I think that's again, you guys are able to focus on just each other, loving each other, and communicating about the things you don't like that you like and don't like as far as and

again this is not to monogamy shame, but in monogamy, in monogamous relationships, a lot of time you're constantly trying to catch your partner doing something you said they can't do, oftentimes with other people. And so I love that. I guess before we get out here, I want you to both explain a lot of people have the notion that if you can have sex with someone else, maybe y'all don't love each other. A lot of people associate sex

with love. And I want to know just where your mindsets have went to where you know Dollar fucking loves you to death, it doesn't matter how many other women he plays with or has relationships with, and vice versa. Like, what are y'all like, what would you have to say to that? So? And I'm promised not take this whole piece because then it's one of our favorite questions we

ever get asked. Um, you know how like the family dynamic is and you love your mom, love your dad, and like you love your sisters and your cousins and your brothers and everyone and no one ever feels like, oh, because you love your mom, you don't love your dad. Like have you ever noticed that never actually happens? But right, that is the case in life and people and humanity and love period. Like loving its purest form can be given like to multiple people without having any effects or

impact negatively. I'll tell you what I think that the different and says for me, I do believe that. But no matter what anyone says, I don't believe it's equal to believe that we generally reserve one separate type. There's someone there that's more of our quote unquote main obviously a case for yours. Now, some people will argue that and be like, no, I can love them the same.

I don't really believe that over the years watching even just small reality shows, right with sister wives or big love or different ships, there's someone even if it changes. I hear you, you're kind of shifting to one word person is kind of your main. I really think that's a real thing. But like, just to be clear, I'm not saying that, like, no, I know you're not love people the same because hell now I don't know it.

But you can spread the love, yes, But I'm saying, And the main part of that is it's just not having an effect or impact on like yours. That's why the poor person has got to be the strong relationship there. You're not going to give your all to a bunch of people, like let me be clear, like us being open and us like you know, being in the lesstyle.

We're not like giving equal parts of ourselves to all these people in our lives, like know, And that's not not the expectation of anyone, like not our friends, not you know, our unicorns, or like thirds, or guys that I'm seeing, girls that he's seeing. No one's expecting to get like the dollar treatment from me or like But I was also going to say, I hate the idea of this hierarchy of love, like do you love me

as much as you love x y Z? And I think that that's also one of those unrealistic expectations that we set on ourselves in lives and relationships, like the idea that like, I know, even getting a new relationships asking your partner, well do you still love her? Referencing the a like a lot of people don't just lose

love because they're no longer with someone. I think that's tough because, like I to what Holly was saying, it's it's hard to uh put one form on love, right because love love is you can love people in in the friendship capacity, right, And I think when you think of love in the friendship capacity, then it's more of a broad spectrum. You're able to look at it and it's more all encompassing. But when it's like in a relationship for him, then people try and put more parameters

to it. So with what you were saying, right, you can have friends where say we're we're all friends right now. I know you say I've known you for five years. I've only known you for two years. I love you both, right, But because I've known her for five years, I might have been through some things with her that I love

her differently. Not that I don't love you, But if we get arrested together, I don't know that you're gonna hold it down the city because this episode we were doing so good, Like you you put it in my head, I want to I want to see back to something that man he said, Like to go back to what you're saying to them, um, like being careful about like putting those measures on things. Like do you love me as much as or blah blah blah. It kind of brings me back to our word that we came up with,

like infini many. It's it isn't measurable, you know what I mean. It's like it's something that's just beyond like you know, an amount or you know, like the metric system or you know numbers. It's just something like our love is that Like, that's that's our love. It's it's you know, yeah, the rest of the world's on tender right now. So I was about to say I love it. Are you guys? Are y'all on multiple dating apps together? Also? Do you guys need not guess that actually believe we've

been on like like lifestyle like websites together. But like he's got a tender profile. I've got a tender profile. I like picked the pictures for him. I'll be like, now I'll do this one. I like not to have his dating app, haven't. They're gonna be like, are you horribly what are y'all Instagram handles? If anyone was interested in maybe slotting in them d m s, could they

like totally drop your Instagram handles? Um? By the way, I'm miss Holly Dollas like, damn, not you playing his name in your name's actually m mine is Dollar Jones Underscore seven one Night Okay, not you with a New York area. UM well, I'm so glad that you guys are finally able to come on here and share again. Just how you guys again have this customizable relationship that I hope for anyone listening has taken some of the pressures off some of our followers looking to place labels

on their relationship again. I think that you should customize your own and what works for for you guys. What works for me, what works for Wheezy may not work for you. Um. Ed and I don't know if are you dating? Okay, I'm sorry, um, but there's out here trying to fuck. Thank you edd In if you want to go out inside in his MS as well, But no, thank you guys so much for joining us. Y'all. Their information will be in the description of this episode. I

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back to school, but we are doing that. That's right in New York. We do have two dates, so again, check the description of this episode to see if we are coming to your city. I do want to announced we are doing New York, d C, Atlanta, and l a um and so I'm excited the rest of the cities. I know y'all want us to come. We will be hitting you guys up in two, so stay tuned. Also is always we're gonna leave you guys off when they

find in a bonus clip our Patreon. That's right, if you're all caught up and want to see Mark going over to Patreon this bonus content and all that good ship. So that's Patreon dot com back slash Horrible Decisions again. Thank you guys for joining us, and this has been yet another episode of Horrible Decisions fights. It's bonus bitchen. Many just took like a huge yawn and stretch. We just had a live show last night. Oh we did, we did, and I ain't gonna hold you. I did

not want to motherfucking record today. My voice it's raspy. I was like, oh, I have a weekend off. Never do I ever, though, um, I did want to shout out to all of the patrons real quick who came out and pulled up to the live show at Sony Hall last night in New York City. It's so crazy, though, if you're a patron and came to a live show for the first time, please leave a comment under this episode. I was so shocked at how many people said that was the first time going to a live show. Me too,

like that. I think was the most first time I was I've ever heard in one room I've ever seen. And I also for the first time, I got a lot of feedback from friends, like immediately after the show, which normally like I need some time before I can hear some ship and this was probably the best feedback I ever got. And two things I found interesting. Um, and this is not me trying to sell v IP tickets, by the way, I'm sure maybe it could be a

venue thing. So Brianda and Alex both told me or Brianda said she sat um in the back and it's not even that much of a back for the beginning of the show, and sat in the front towards the end. She's like, wheezy, I had a totally different experience. She's like, I don't know if it's because the fans are in the front, like crazy fans, or if people get distracted in the back. She's like, but I felt like I

was like really in the show in the front. And I mean, obviously the front for Vennye show is good, but this year, just so you guys know, Mandy and if you've ever been to a show, we go, well, I go out into the audience a lot, but we pick a lot of people from the audience and we generally will go upstairs, downstairs wherever. And this time, being that we can't meet all of you, we are choosing

from our V I P section. That is one of our UM ways to you know, throw an incentive in there along with like the obviously the better seating, and

we give you some merch as well. But yeah, like I did find that interesting and I was like, I wonder and I think that's my biggest thing for myself, was like how to make sure the back is always included, because I'm sure it must be difficult, you know what I mean, Like on your a room of hundreds and hundreds of people, and I even think about, like Howard, you know we're going next week and it's two floors, but I went up there last year or two years

Howard Theater. I literally said this to Bridget last night. Sony Hall is my second favorite venue. Howard Theater. Of all the venues that we've done, UM is by far my favorite venue. Like I love the DC crowd, I love that upstairs downstairs vibe. I also like the venues that allow our wore Hive members to kind of. It's like a dinner on a show, like I like when they can eat and drink and um do those type of things. How well, speaking of drinking, however, about I'm

gonna say it. I wasn't gonna say, Okay, you could say you could. I need to make sure it wasn't this person. Yeah, so don't don't call out that person, just call out the table. Well, then let me not say nothing someone that got on stage. Fine, someone that got on stage, but it might not be so know what I'm saying, Someone that got on stage was sitting at a table that ran out in the bill. And when I tell you also real quick, we know it's been wait, we know that it's been a pandemic. We

know our tickets. You know. That's why we go above and beyond with really trying to give a really good show. But the first time ever that Weezy and I have been doing live shows, we've been doing live shows since. By the way, I wasn't I wasn't baras. So thenn he comes down and he's like, girl, like five tables walked out on their bill, and I was just like, to be fair too. The server was new, so he probably wasn't. I was gonna say, maybe everybody else seemed

to have closed out before him. Yeah, But at the same time, I'll wait and be mad that somebody's taking so long with my bill before. So I did feel really bad for him in that instance. But here's the thing, y'all, I don't know when y'all stopped sneaking liquor into places. Did I implore you to do so if you think there could be a moment that you will run out on your tab. The last time I remember seeing some ship like this happened, I was at a fucking steak

and shake prom night. Nigga, I'm not used to this sheet. I am not used to this ghetto sheet. And we all ready to black shop.