Ep 201: ZADDY Issues (feat Venny)

I'm so sorry. Hi guys, I'm wheezy. Welcome to another episode of our show. Today. We have a close friend, my bestie and to assistant what's been his title on the show, you want to say? Told manager of No. I called myself like the code tour manager because like I'll be there for most of the dates dates, and then because we actually did have a tour manager. So he's like, you call assistant, you do much more than yeah,

you do way more than that. And for those of y'all who like came to our tours when it was just Wheelie and I putting them on, y'all may have seen him, sell t shirts, help with our songs, help with you. He's been helping us always before we had a manager. Yeah, from the beginning. You guys may have also heard him before, if y'all start started all the way back from four years ago forever. He fuck the murderer. It's it's fourteen. About to say it's earlier. I did

murderer and men on the deal. Yes, And let me tell you something. I have flashbacks with people be like, oh you fuck the murdering And I'm like, oh bitch, yeah, and like I literally like go through the experience all over again, be like, oh, yeah, I did. He had to climb out a bathroom window, or at least he thought some streams these are horny forviews. No, Bennie is you know. I'm so glad he's part of our Horrible Decisions team along with Bens. That's really like our cot

ye now yeah, but so shout out to them. But yeah, so Bennie's here. You know, it's just a merry and gay New Year with you here, you know. So I wanted to talk about something different because we've had so many gay men in and particularly with Vinnie, I just it would be like our gay men be like gay episodes, and so I'm glad, like we're gonna just talk about goddamn dating as people despite our sexuality, because it's not like, you know, we're trying to like be like tell us

all about your gay ship. But also like I'm gonna because I think you'd right, that's pretty much what I'm talking about really, which is which is I'm not trying to yell anyone's yuck, but it's not mine. I mean, we get it for him, um no. But it was difficult because I was like, Minnie has so many stories, so like, what can we talk about with Vinnie? And I feel like this has been a trend in your

life for as long as I've known you. Yeah, And we're gonna talk about Daddy's today Before we get to Daddy specifically, I'm not talking about just Mandy and I having old bays. I'm talking Daddy's like plus let's says okay, and they love him to y'all. Let me just explain. During the Bandami, we went to I came to Boston because I missed you, and I surprised him for the birthday, and we went to this gay bar where it was

socially distanced. It was really difficult, by the way, because like gauges me on top of each other because that's how they like speak and definitely say hello. So this was really weird, Like even if you stood up and went to another table, like but they did. Well, what's the name of that Cathy's Cathy's Cathedral station. There are some really cute niggas in there. They're always I hate parting with Justin for that reason, Like I hate going

on and being like they don't like me. You're walking like they're not even here for me, and I'm like, no, why my hair? You do always look your right now. Anyway, I just only pointed out how many good looking men there were in there, because I don't know if you saw them because you were looking at the A RP table a friend and if you can remember, they all have their masks on. Everybody else too. They're responsible no no, no, because they might have died. Wait, they probably all have

underlying condition. And it was so serious that not only I said this about Bennie, what's your friend Julissa, not what's his name Julissa Bunt Jared Jared, but he got all the eager Julissa, and he was like, there goes Benny's friends. Everybody knows you like oh and it is insane, Like literally, I don't know what the silver hair, white hair does. I'm not gonna lie. I like the little the salt and pepper now to say I need the

pepper in there. I don't want all salt, A little salt and pepper, and like the bald a little bit. Damn you gonna like my nigga the bald? The bald does? I don't know. You want to bald spot out? You want to let it shine? Bitch? Do you wanted to put sunscreen on it? Give it to me? Wait? But do you like the hair around? Like? You don't mean I don't need the hair around? But you know, sometimes

if they're bald, they like shave the whole thing. But if I got to say during the summertime, the shadows, okay. But if I have to say, baby, let me put some sunscreen on your head in the summertime, that's it right there for me. Why, I don't know, I like it. I wonder if you got isn't daddy issue? I don't know,

you know. I talked to my therapist about it because I was truly concerned, and I was like, listen, um, you know, my father was a little absent, but I had male figures in my life plenty, probably more than just a father. I had like a father and eight cousins. And so I was like, are these daddy issues? She was like no, And I was like, you could like older, you can like, but I thought it was rooted in

like my father not being there. And she was like, but you had male figures all around you the whole time. They thought it was a daddy thing, because well, maybe not. It's just that you are, for example, this is just me telling what I know. But Vinnie is in someone's will. And I just feel like when you're shout up you've God, because that are in your thirties or forties, like that never really comes right. You don't really talk about this

like that. But I wondered when that When you told me that that day, I was like, I wonder if that's a protector thing, like he makes you feel. I think I do like the stability, and I do like the it's until until he came along, I thought it was like no games and like they knew what they wanted and he was going to be like solid. But it turns out they're just children too. Man. He always

said that working around too. No, I'm not gonna lie, but and I think I compare it between like rich and regular niggas to like all everybody is like how they just do. I don't know if it's covideo pandemica, but like the motherfucker's everywhere, and like, some days he's loved me, some days he don't want to be around me. Some days he's like, come back. It's just maybe maybe he's losing it. He might be losing Maybe some days he forgets who you are, you know what. He ain't

that old, but maybe the side of dementia. But wait, I don't know, does he know you're doing this today? Um? Kind of stop it? I s sorry. I mean I like him. He's cute, but like he's cute, he's fun, he's super chill. Um, but you know, he don't know what he wants. He doesn't know what he wants and he's almost half of a century. I think it's because he had a very long relationship. He had a very

long relationship. Prize that's in a marriage. I don't deal with those seven marriages February makes it almost like three years. Is what do I find the most interesting about this is this is what he was telling me about their in the pandemic. Okay, he wasn't with somebody else that that was him, So I was like the Providence one. Okay, I want to dive into something interesting because it when you're dating someone at this age. Right, So Pete Town

tells what pet so? Pete Town is a gay community, just like here in New York, there's Fire Island, there's PiZZ Town. At a typical cod in Massachusetts. It's about a ninety minute fairy ride from Boston or you could drive and it takes like three hours. Um, and it's just gay as fun. Well, straight people are starting to come in now, but it's really gay as fun. Was upset I want want literally just made it seem like

straight people were colonizers. And I don't know if it's y'all colonized and someone every track grun let me tell you? Are you kidding me? Place Angels the parliam is still very much. I mean like there are some there are some places like Provincetown. Like when I first went there, I was like, oh, there's gonna be gay nigas everywhere.

Everybody's gonna be holding hands, blah blah. But then I just saw straight couples with little kids everywhere, and I was like, go away, you have the whole other state. Like I only felt that way at the nude beach. People started bringing their kids. This is not the place. Well this is See I'm okay with the nude beaches because like in Spain, their kids at the beach. But like, there's literally on Prime Sound there's a beach called Boy Beach and it's literally where the men go and they

be they close to the dick dot. It's but men, you know, be out there doing what they do. We brought up the dots on an episode, yeah, because he was like, oh god, you have the ditk. Yeah. No. But the thing see, speaking of that, I've watched this summer straight couples walk to the dick talk and be like, oh this is where it is. It's become a torch attraction. So I can't get you wanted to go just like that with your call. It not because they're they're fucking

taking pictures? Are you trying to get your but if an he has kicked me out of spaces I'm not welcome. And one time he can see or pretty and he was like, where'd you go the cock? When I was the first say and I was like, oh, where are we gonna go? He was like, we go eat and then you can go home. Oh wait, you didn't let her go to the car, Like there's some places I

would be like, Asante brought me to the car. I was right there and then I turned around and that it was definitely some and the Eagle, the eagle here in New York. I would never let a woman come with me. Why because baby, it's pravy. We didn't go to that one club private were almost got sucked in the room but maybe no no, no, no no, no, second in the in the dark room. Yeah, so we know you are. That's why you want horrible club. This is I'm gonna think. This was the guy who was like,

you guys have coach at meth do it all. Yeah. We went to the gate because like in Europe, a lot of gay clubs have the bathroom and then like a room that is really dark, like you cannot see your hand in front of your face. But why is that fun? And because you have anonymous sex instead of going to somebody like, you just have anonymous, so you just grab that's probably problem. Let me way around. It was a really crazy night first off, because one we

came to fucking where were we? Wait? Wait, I know you want to tell your story. We've never talked about a dark room. We're about to talk about so we So the night starts off with us going to a lesbian club, right, So Bennie is already like, bitch, you're about to have me in here. We need to get ht. So I was like okay, So I go to the bathroom. I come back. I was like, don't be upset. The drugs accidentally fell on the toilet. So this was like we're leaving. So we go to the gay club, which

was really fun, like it was cute. Nieces was dancing on boxes like we was having a good time, and I knew he wanted to leave me for a minute, but I do want to be left alone because like it's a foreign country or whatever. So we go downstairs and I see lockers. I'm like, what's that for? And he's like, oh bitch, He's like do you I'll be right back. And then I see condoms. I was like, no, I want to see what it's like. I want to

see what it's like. Never has been he held in my hand like this, it's like that happen he puts me for just it depends on the club, honestly. They can be really big or they can be like just like the size of what the regular I'd say, like a big living room. Yeah, okay, but sometimes they have like cubicles and stalls but with no doors, so you can go in there and like it's a small room. But you did you know you can you cannot see

the person he said, walk in front of me. So Vinnie is like, asked to ask with me, right, So his dick is in your but no, I still have everything. Everything is still zipped up behind him. So Vinnie's in front of me, and I'm like feeling people grab on me, and I'm like laughing because I'm like, is that him? I don't know how we got separated, but a man

came right behind me grab my ass. I was like, I'm a girl, he said, I don't care because if if you're if you're in the dark room, it basically means you give consent to be touched grabbed, Like that's what you go in there for. You would you go in there and like literally they just be like they start touching you. You You can't be like, no, that's what

you went in there for. But you can't. But you can't just pop like you don't know, well you would know, but you know what that mouth though that we did? Did you play at all in this room? Now? Was this was a creepy one? Wait? Did you left me? I've never been man, I did. I didn't progue. I didn't progue, but I didn't do it in Barcelona, okay, and so wait, our men already just on their knees.

But some people, some people are just standing there waiting for somebody to hear anyone fucking But I think people were definitely getting the dicks on you. Dark rooms are dark rooms are thinking in Europe, and I mean for the most part, I know, and they're really fun. Honestly,

they're really fun. Well I thought you went in one because I ended up talking to this game and now we've talked about sometimes on the show how meth is very popular on Grinder, doing a certain type of drugs like that, right, which I considered drugs that are like not for me. But anyway, we go upstairs and I'm telling the dude about how ship dropped in the toilet right, like, wait, it was meth. No, it wasn't math, Mandy. Oh we

don't know, okay. But I was just telling like, oh my god, that time you just said drugs that you did so I didn't know, Okay, Okay. I was telling the guy about how like, oh I dropped all ablama toilet and he was like, oh my god, girl. He was like, I can get whatever you want. Remember him, It was like we can get co can get. I was like wow. I remember looking at him and being like whatever you left me with his ass? I don't know why. And he was like, no, let's just find it.

We can just find it. I just know who has it. We go in the dark room. I was like, you don't get math, get your nicks in the dark room by someone you don't know. It's a police. That's why I walked away. I said, no, he do, we gotta go. That's the walked away. But you're already like this for people are feeling free. You don't want to be judgy. But also like we were doing a shot together and I was like, well I went with this hair on

one shot with you I just remember. I remember, like, I remember looking at him and being like, girl, let's take the shot and walk away, right because also he smells. But you know, whatever he did, we're ever going to go to a gay club again. I don't know. Ain't nothing going to be open. What club? Unless they got it in Atlanta. That's the only place. We are not doing that. Let's just go to an l ship A downer on this, but I recently found out that porn

hub had removed all unverified content, did you guys? So there was a lot of reports of exploitation, apparently about a hundred and eighteen videos, which doesn't sound like a lot, but it's enough about missing kids. Um, I think half of them were missing kids. So there's an watchdog group called the Internet watch Foundation, and they found a hundred and eighteen instances. They said that it was a hundred

eighteen too many. The service UM was defensive in its report, believing it had been UM singled out due to its focus on adult content. It's clear that porn hub is being targeted. This is from porn Hub, by the way, not because of our policies and how we compared to our peers, but because we are in a adult content platform,

the service rights there. These are the same forces that have been spent fifty years demonizing Playboy, the National Endowment for the Arts, Facility sex education, LGBTQ rights, women's rights, and every American Library Association. Today it happens to be porn Hub. Mandy, I love porn Hub and I will never use it again. Well, it's crazy, because I do want to bring up it's funny that they're just like, oh, they're just attacking us because we are um more this way.

But there was actually a story a couple of months ago where a woman was trying to get a video taken down that she did not consent to have recorded. And there's a lot of things in the amateur realm of porn hub where there are i think one woman also had a rape up there and she continuously told

them to take it down and they didn't. So not only are you know, are they saying that, uh, not only is porn Hub sitting here trying to act like it's just this organization that is attacking them, there are actual victims of assault and women who were videotaped, and there's not he said like, hey, down people upload whatever. We will take it like it's so easy to take

it down. I just cannot believe to even say what the response was so funny And that's really what it is, because right, like when you have a user uploaded platform like a Reddit or a YouTube, I mean anything where or Instagram, right, and it comes down once, you know, just to be like, oh, they're coming for us. But I think something needs to be changed. It has to be something. Like you said, Instagram can easily take things down because they have a community guidelines, you know, community

guidelines that are set. To me, I feel like maybe porn hub is maybe too lenient in their community guidelines because to me, if someone is saying that's a video of me and I was getting assaulted, you should take it down immediately. There should immediately. There shouldn't be a back and forth regarding clicks or views or anither that Like if I come to you and say there's a violation because you actually do protect victims, that should be anything.

I feel like they were dope. I love that they hired like um shout out to d Nasty, like they hired her to do their words, like the higher communities. It's not just like sex workers, like I think and I mean even ms be nasty. She came on and said she actually likes that. Not only is it used to for exposure for her, but she gets paid on porn hub as well. So it's one of our friends. UM, shout out to Mia Woods. She's dating one of our friends and she uploads her videos on there like she does.

Only fans get paid. They get paid. Um. But you can also use for free X and x x or x videos. There's also you porn. I used to use that way back in the day. I will say the only thing about X and x X that I do not like And I will tell you now if you're one of those porn watchers like me, they're suggested videos are often never in the same category of the videos that you're watching. Stuff. It's been you know what I mean to suggestive videos is all. And then you're making

my dick point. We got to go back to thebrary here. Their algorithms sucks for suggestive videos to use. Um, I use xxx videos. Um, I use Twitter Twitter. I told you Twitter Twitter, I got my little two minutes. You let me tell you or to go to the media file and then exactly you just go to the media and you just keep scrolling. I mean, you're gonna hit one account, but you just keep podcast pro sex work and y'all because they're trying to scam the No, I'm not.

Because it's people who have only fans who use Twitter as a platform to like it. And you know, all my you know, if I really like it or I bust the nut to that one, I will retweet. Came to this, came to this, sweetheart. And so if you guys have some other suggestions, by the way, please leave them in the YouTube comments. Tweet us, tell us, like where you're watching your freeport at? What platforms do you like? What's use your friendly? Because I ain't a port with

that ship. Donate some money to some child trafficking victims of song Dad part wildly so at A sex tip for us, a sex tip for anybody any Well, it's gonna be for men. Pull out all right, No, no, no kidding, no's kidding. No, it's just the beginning of my film I don't work. I'm tired of the unwanted. I'm just kidding. Okay, okay, there you like, So when you're having sex, pull out of the vagina or the

booty hole. And when you enter, enter slowly and do keegels. Men, do keegeles as you're going back in, because what's gonna happen is you're kind of forcing blood flow to your dick, and so if you're already hard, it's gonna pulse and it's also gonna go up and down. So I like when, yeah, so I I didn't know men could do keegles. I didn't know. That's when they know. So men, if you don't know how to do keegoes, when you're peeing, you pee, stop it, stop it. That's not stop, it's that working.

That's if you don't know how to work the muscle. That's how you activate the muscle. So if you don't know how to do it, go to pee and when you're peeing, stop it. And then like you, once you learn how to do it, once you learn how to make your dick jump, which is really keegels, um, you just do that when you're entering them slowly, and it really provides a different sensation. Like I've had dudes to be like what is that? Like? Nothing, that's so just

do keegles. Pull out and then do keegles as you slowly enter, and it literally provides well inside of you, just like he's like pulling on his dick pull out. What's crazy is I've given that suggestion to women too, Like there's a way for us to do keegels while dick is inside. So we're gripping the dick and it feels so good. It's easily done when you lay down

flat and a man is behind you. And it's also here's a cheap code as well, if you just like scrunch your butt cheeks together, like as I used, scrunch your butt cheeks together, they could feel like you're pussy in all of that just grabbing the dick. So yeah, so just scrunch your butt cheeks together and then I love you. It kiggls me too. I'm like, oh, you can do it on a subway ride. You can do that while you're driving the word. You could do it

while you're just sending at home my time. You should definitely do it, though, I think because it helps withougles. I think he was mean because it helps your orgasms. It helps, you know, Americans love changes. She Nike isn't it night or something? The Adidas is really Ida? All right, let's just say these think It's a song for a fucking clothing brands like we Man. You know, I do love saying Luis Guci. It's Italian. Maybe they say, like Google,

just Gucci. No, okay, okay, the horrible this is our whole factor. I really love this one. This is all about stone Wall. For those of you who know what stone Wall is and you know it as a bar in New York, that's true, it is, But where did it become a monument? How did that actually happen? What you may not know about Stonewall is that there were actual Stonewall riots and known as the stone Wall Uprising. So basically, let me tell you what Wikipedia said, but

let me translate it. So stone Wall was like a place where people had to go hide and be gay, you know what I'm saying on the bisitionary ship because they couldn't really be gay outside. So then what ended up happening was there was like a whole fucking gay revolution and ship Nia was writing tearing ship up, they were sucking it up. It's very like, um, I believe there's this piece on the wall outside or some thing that's like broken off from that having been in a while,

still open. Oh yeah, yeah, ing and village. Um. But this was around the fifties and the sixties, because very few establishments welcomed gay people in the nineteen fifties and six and that was both male and women. Uh. And it was owned by the mafia at the time, and it catered to a bunch of patrons, um, butch lesbians. Um. That's where the term um, I'm sorry to cut off, that's where the term are you a friend of Dorothy's? Came from because you couldn't you couldn't ask somebody I

didn't know that they were gay. So you'd be like, here, you were friend of Dorothy's, and that's how you didn't know if they were gay. Like really, that's what you learned when because he probably was going there during the Brandon called his good Judy and he was like, you got all these gay friends and nobody ever called you the good judy And I was like, well, you ain't never called him your good duty because because you know, bitch on a millennial. Okay. So there were police raids

on the gay bars, right offerers, offerers. Officers quickly lost control. They are officalbum defund the police, y'all. Ship. So the tensions between the New York City Police and gay residents of Greenwage erupted into more protests into evening, several nights, going over and over into weeks. Um and basically, who through the first brick? I don't know, John say exactly. I never forget that ship. I didn't know that friend. Never forget that I didn't know she threw the first

break through that brick. Now, because when women been the leaders out here in the trans woman women, black, our last black president, um Obama. You know, he made it a monument of whatever. And this was a very important thing because to me it was the first like gay monument. I mean what it represented, it was a big fucking deal. Um, so it is considered a monument and it's a bar, which is like toughest fuck. But last year June, well two years ago now June seen it was the anniversary

fifty World Pride in NYC. I was out with Christopher. It was fucking insane. Dog couldn't even like next year. Last year Pride was so much fun. So it was World Pride because of stone Wall and all that. So every year there's a World Pride. You were wanting to go to tell Aviv so bad I remember, Yeah, I did want to go to Tel Aviv really bad. I just want to go somewhere else and celebrate pride, like in another country, because I will tell you New York

was fun, but it's very corporate now. It's corporate it is, I mean, it probably is everywhere, but like I've experienced New York Pride before, I want to go like outside of the US and see what that experience, because not in some places it's even more free. Like mother was just walking down the street naked. Mm hmm. Yeah. I want to go wherever that is. Okay, you know what I mean? And hell, yeah, we're happy gay. I mean you'll be in dad, Yeah, we buy. We don't get

you've ever seen me? The gayest I've ever seen you. I think it was when we went to Pride and we were together and we were in the West Village and you were you were literally I don't you were just diking out. I don't know that she was like I literally had to look at her and be like she had her doc market and I was like, I can't remember what year, but I was remember being extremely drunk and just looking at you and being like, is

that my friend? She's embarrassing me. To be honest with you, Like when I first moved to New York, they were just like hotter gay girls because there was more of them and a lot of models were gay. But let's let's not bring that bitch up. That's sucking Lessian party and like, I just learned so much about Venus took me to the best lesbian party I've been to New York. Mad girls in their new Horrible Decisions. Yea, they was amazingly. I told you, don't do them lesbian parties. They fight

too much for me. Oh bitch, they we're about to fight me. I wasn't talking with me. I can't do that ship. They fight some with me. Our fourth or fifth time hanging out, we were dancing together and I was like, why do you want to fight me? She's like, oh, they know my ex girls. Cool. I was like, no, the fights for me. Let me tell you something. I'm not scared of nobody. I'm not scared of one Latina. I'm scared of their cousins. That's what I'm scared of.

So you know what I'm saying, Like, if I see one, like, I ain't worried about that whole but they never they never rolling back for one and that's the girl and they got their family. I feel like black people like you know what I'm saying, if I got my ask, like you could like people take a l. Spanish people don't give a funk dog. They don't They don't fucking care what fight have been in with a fucking Spanish bitch. Sorry, I'm not trying to talk about them like that, but

that whole you know what I'm saying. We was outside of Taboo. I was beating her ass and then I'll started getting my ass book and I was like, she underneath me. You do you know how Orlando roll? I mean, you know Orlando, you and you know the party with which when I was in Orlando and I went to the club with my cousins, like in Orlando you hang out with your family because everybody ain't leave their housepital last couple of years like keep everyone. No one moves

out looking crazy. The girl was underneath me right because I was on top of her, and then her friends jumped off top of me. When I was getting my ass by her friends, she was still underneath me, talking about that's why you getting sucked up. I was like Damn it was sucked up. I had to scratch your ponytail get thrown around for that I was wearing at this point. Okay, but that's the smart one used to queen because I can't after that I was trying to do. You had to like every time I have a wig on,

something happens. I remember that's used to wear wigs at the Jamaican parties. And you knew the so little bitches, the jam she was she was, you don't remember. Wait, this is a little bit. I knew a little about it,

but she used to do the handtime met her. I met her right before the breast listen let me and then I came like two weeks later she had We used to do the Jamaican parties and she'd be like, you just sew this on the top to my brain underneath, like we would sew the wigs down like niggas, and I didn't know where they did. And the Jamaican niggas had many bitches. But I was always like really nice to everybody. And that was my way now to like get a fight because I only had like four or

five fights under my belt at that part. But then once I moved downtown and the Jamaican parties that lived together. And I came back, I said, I got to fight, but we can yeah, And I was like, this is also another problem. Why you had to be like on your p's and queues because of the Jamaican parties. They don't wear heels, sneakers and flats. Of course, are you gonna get yours because the bitch ain't gonna trip over her heels because she ain't. And no shoes. They come prepared.

They're making you Ever watched Day Friday, so no shoes making zero maybe on top of trash cans. That's why it's their foot jumping from the speacause you know what, I'm gonna give Jamaican's over Latinas only because they'll cut me. Absolutely, the show will because the blame right unda where the you at? Hey, y'all, by the way, I am leaving the b X, so your gonna yet. But it's the lick. Okay,

I got it, I got it. It's good job. One of the writers I worked with, he's helping me with Ship and he's like, give me back to the Elis. He's like, I'm gonna call you elis like lesbian that was funny. Okay, the horrible decision for this week are all about Daddy's. I'm gonna bring it back to a kink of the week that we've talked about before. It called gerontophilia, attraction to the elderly. Where are you to say?

You like that? I know? But what I want to know is, what's the oldest you've been with my nigga? Your turn? Uh? When? Oh wow? There was an older guy when I first came back to Boston, when I was like nineteen, Think he lied about his age. No, he told me his age. I don't know what I was thinking, but the man had to be like in his mind you I was nineteen, He had to be in his late not seven sixties, early seventies, early seventies. What are you? How open was his as I was

gonna go there? It was loose. First of all, the throat was gone gone. I can see that. I know, the teeth was intact. And this motherfucker was like. The motherfucker was like, I eat dark chocolate before sex. You know it helps. And I was like, help with what you mean me? And like we were at his house like drinking wine. And he lived above Boston Commons, so he could see the whole garden whatever. You know, he lived in one of the fancy places. I was about

to say it all the time. No, no, no, he was, and uh it wasn't. It was. There's no such thing as a loose ask because really, like if men know what they're doing, they just tighten it up. There's no the thing as a loose ask. But it was. It was one of those things that like on the ride home, I was like, what the fuck are you doing? Honestly, it's not even it wasn't hanging. There's no, there's nothing honestly, like there was nothing negative or anything about his body,

you know, like he's an older gentleman. Like it was an older body, but a gentleman. He was a gentleman. But like it was one of those things for me where like I was so like caught up in it at the time that I was like, oh, this is so he's rich blah blah blahlah blah blah. And then I sucked him, and then after I left, I was like and I'm so poor. Yeah. I was like, you know, so after not after because because it was probably for me it was hot. My d was like nineteen at

the times. So it was really hot and I was like, oh yeah, yeah great, but like it was a there was a there was a difference in age. So did you keep seeing him? What kind of names do these guys have? The mom and grinder old man name that's a black one. Oh do you wait, white old man or this black old man? Like a common name that they have on grinder dick. Well, a lot of them

just put a lot of them just put not generous. Wait, so they put like the the no sign and a flower because it means like I'm old, but I'm not going to suck you for money. They want to be about m M. So I brought up something that you didn't remember. Let's go back to another gay pride weekend with a mutual friend and this is when you kicked me out again. I just want to tell you guys, so this okay, but that pride like I have not been that lit in life since that pride like, I

don't think I've been that just continuously lit. You know, when you drunk for like four or six hours, you have Oh, I thought she was gonna say you have been that lit friend. You were that lit the day that you said we were in that casino to that young little boy, she needs to get big. Wait what did you do? Okay? That was that was out the country you don't count. Which when we were in Spain, I got, first of all, I don't like gambling, right, but I'll go to a casino and like I will

drink my ass. Okay, keep bringing drink. Loves to drink. It was late and I was like, go ahead, gamble gambling, sorry, drinking right. So I'm in there just taking back drinks and there was like this cute younger you know, Canadian mofucking. I was like, suck her like I was literally like I was trying to pick her out at the bar. Oh my god. And what he's like though, I remember seeing the video and being like, oh god, why were

we out? It was because I was winning, and like I was like, we can't leave it, and he was like okay. He was really nice about it because he knows when I'm in my zonwnly me alone and they're already lickering him up because they see that like I'm trying to play. So we get to the bar and the guy was flirting with me, but Minnie was just making sure that he hear him, like the guy was like, oh, how long you guys here? Whenever the funk. She has her own she can fuck you tonight. She has her

own room. You know. He was wading and then playing in a whisper and he goes just like this, do you not want Canadian bacon tonight? You don't want to taste Canadian bacon. That was the night that when we got back to our airbnb, I Loki went into the host room and fell asleep. Oh that's right. So here's what happened. He still rated us five stars because he got how drunk. I was like, that's how fund up I was. Okay, his door was right next to our door,

like that his door was. So I got up in the middle of the night to pee and went into his room and fell asleep on his bed. Wait next to him? Was he? No, he wasn't there. He works nights. He came in in the morning. It was like, what are you doing? And I was like, oh shit, and like I'm pretty sure he could smell the alcohol or whatever, but he was just like he rated her five stares. He's like, oh it was a great hold on. But let me tell you what about the whole thing, though.

He tells me in the morning He's like, yo, I had a dream last night, but I don't know if it happened, And I was like, what are you talking about. He's like, no, it was a dream. So the whole so we were in Barcelona for like three more days, right, and the whole time is I couldn't figure out if it was a dream real because we never see our host.

So I was like, I don't know if it happened, but like, I think he was sucking me up in the head, like I couldn't eve enjoy the rest of But then we got this review and I was like, fuck, he happened, friendly, polite, orderly, I have any stranger situation with Vinnie, but nothing very important. You know, it was strange, you know, I'm up with guy drunk, like you can

tell that. I was like because he was cute though, and look when he looked like a daddy, so you wanted him to maybe we always get goofed and literally my ship is me and Vinnie because we always drop it together. But I just really thought it was a fucking dream. And we're on the flight going to another city, and the ships that I have stranger situation. We've been like it did happen. But the oldest guy, I think was like late sixties, early seven. So let's go back

to the story from Pride. So here's what happened. Here's what we're gonna start with how it started, and then we're gonna say what happens when I came home? Now, when he came home. So it's Pride in Orlando. We're at this building called the Waverley. It's downtown. It was cute. It was the look and what the little gaye remember that one that worked with us. Yes, he was Scott and he was like, oh my god, honey. They're like, I don't hang out with those kinds. And they were

a hot mess. It was old dudes and they had drinking drugs. They had everything lay out. So I was at that party just getting lit. So people started leaving the party, but I just felt like, you know what, I'm with my friends, Bennie and one of our other friends. I'm like, why I'm about to leave. So then it's Bennie, our friend, and the gay older gentleman who owned the home, and everybody's kind of looking at me. And I don't think there was uber at the time. But then he

was like, what are you about to do? And I was like, we're hanging out. I was being like, hey, so what are you doing? And then I'm like, I don't what do you mean like that there? I can't get a car, like I can't get a cab, like the streets are blocked off for Pride, and I'm like, it's like a thirty minute walk home. And he was like, girl, it's nice weather. Like get your take. He gives me his corded headphones. I remember that, just listen to a song.

I was like, listening to a song. I'm still at this point what I'm trying to say, confused at what's going on. I almost got Oh my god, that's never what happens. Okay, wait, let me This is why I think I was leaning on him so much. I worked for a company at the time that was in the Gay Pride parade. I was a manager for a company and I made out with one of the employees and it was videotaped and sent to everybody in the district. So I was already getting drunk and bugging out because

I couldn't believe I did. She was fine, though, but Anyway, I walked home company movie New York. That's right. So anyway, I'm at home. Two hours later, Vinnie strolls in with our friend, who he cannot stop making fun of because they've never had sex, and he's like going on and on about how our friend was talking to this man, and they tell me about a situation where the man was getting spit roasted. And for those of you who don't know what means, you're fucking someone and then they're

sucking someone else's dick. And apparently the man had an issue with his neck. What was that? So apparently the man had you know, he was an older gentleman and apparently he had I don't know if it was a our accident or what it is, but he had had a neck injury. And he before pride, took off the neck brace because you know, he just wants to be cool and cute and you know, but he probably should

have had the neck brace. Song. And so when you were when you were stinking your dick in his mouth, he'd be like, gentle on my neck, on my neck, And the whole time I was like, what the fund is he talking to about? And then like we come to find out that this man literally had a neck brace that he was supposed to have on. He could have literally died, but he I love it for him. You know, at this point, you so I want to know, how do you ever make older men call you daddy? Um?

There was a guy that I was sleeping with who does call me daddy, which is very, uh, empowering. I think, do you like being called daddy? I do for some reason. When they're older than me, it's like a power thing. I get it. But if they're younger than me and they call me daddy, I'm like it out. I like when girls call me daddy. Yeah, I don't know. I

honestly don't know what it is. It's definitely like a power thing, I think because I've had like a twenty five year old called me daddy and I'm like, which, I'm only thirty. It's not fun. But shout out to Kristen Um. I don't know if you've ever met her. I've never met her, but you know she's met friend. She came on her show, but like, yeah, she's like her girl. We called her daddy, be called her mommy,

all kinds of ship and I don't know. I don't but when you're like in some real gay ship, Oh my god, and girls like fuck me daddy, that that is very not feminist because we should not be trying to do the masculine and feminine roles in So then when you try your strap on on, why do you call it your dick? You it looked like a dick animated jump by I literally did. I would No, I mean, it is my dick every once in a while, like Nigel has called me daddy or I've called him daddy

and like it turned me on. But I was like, I just called the man. You don't ever call any of them granddaddy, like you know, you don't know, no, because now for the last three years they've been like twenty years older than me and younger, which doesn't put them in granddaddy. No, twenty years older, okay, doesn't put them in daddy. Stage puts them in daddy, like firm daddy for daddy. But that can get it up. Where's the QUI Yeah, yeah, I wanted to ask this before.

I thought you're younger, you can show affection to guys in public because you've kind of grown up in an era. Actually not you particularly, but I mean because I know, you know, you've had some issues with school and being gay, but like it's a little more known for you. Do you find that like with older men, they're a little bit like scared to give you affection, Like tell us

about that. I do feel that the the older generation, like p d A is somewhat of an awkward thing for them because a lot of them, one if you're dealing with an older man, a lot of times, uh, they came out later in life. So they came out after they had kids, or they came out after they've been married, or they came out like after being in

the closet for twenty thirty years. So a lot of them still have some of them have shame behind it, and then some of them just it's just not what they do, and like you have to learn to understand. Like for some of them, it's just not what they're comfortable with. So when you go out on dates, if the waiter comes, like, does he automatically act like your dad and you're his son or something? No, I mean you just you can I mean you can tell by the way the motherfucker's looking at me that they want

to suck me. Like you can tell it's a different type of relationship. But there's some people who just aren't. Like Nigel is not comfortable holding hands in public, but every once in a while he'll grab my hand and I'll be like, oh, is that something that you ever wear, like down the street? Like I was gonna say, like pe town, he likes doing it? No, no, no, just randomly is it? What is it something that you do

want more of them? I mean, if you if you deal with older guys, is something you've just gotten used to or me, p d A is cool, but like I'm okay without it. I've never really do too much. I'm I'm more of a like like grabbed every once in a while, or I'm I'm an rub your shoulder um, or like every once in a while, I'll just like touch you like I don't need to like hold your hand down the street and skip like that's not me.

I've never even really seen you make out. Yeah, my day is really tall, so us holding hands, we have to be farther apart from even do like a little coming close. I can't want to see Sometimes if you go into before Rhona, like when we would go into a bar, I would like species but and then go see my friends and he go talk to his Oh that's cute, Like look ahead, look all right, I have the last thing before we get to homemail that I think it's really interesting because it was a dynamic I

thought about recently. So the man that Vinnie's dating has an ex husband, right, yes, and he's been around him. I think his birthday dinner. Did you and write him or something? Um? He was they're still friends and ship the friends and interesting because this is some ship. I feel like an our age on our age people the men were dating where it's like hell no, do you

think that it has to do with age one? Or because for one, if I break up with my nigga, I can make new friends were in a different community. But if we're gay and we got the same friends and we're going to the same bars and it's the same ship, do you feel like what do you think it is that's made you feel okay with it? Because at first you weren't, but you're learning. I think the relationship dynamics are a bit different. The relationships dynamics are

a bit different. So like when you break up sometimes if it's bad, then you're like fuck them, and then you want to just kind of discard that whole party of your life. But if it's not necessarily bad and you still care for the person, you'll I think you work through the awkward, annoying I don't want to be around them phase. How long are they broken up with?

You met him? Uh? Two years, I think, But like I also have to like respect his history before me, because that's like there's you were with a person for like almost twenty years before me, and just because I walk in, I want you to forget everything you have. No, that's dumb, that's selfish. I think that even heterosexual couples should look that way, because I think a lot of times, like even I actually just had this conversation with with

my partner. We've only been together eight months, but when we first started dating, he did he was dating someone else, And we recently had this conversation where I was like, oh, you still talk to her, but she was in the picture. And so that's the thing too that we were talking about, like there are going to be people that because I have this history with, I can't expect you to just completely cut everyone out of your past because I'm now in your present and it's it's honestly though, for for

when we're dating, we do have to respect that. Sometimes it takes longer, especially if someone didn't end badly to cut people off. And also it's like if they have to they have friends together and stuff like that, like of course you're gonna hang out with all the friends, You're all gonna want to be around each other, Like

you just have to be cool with it. I think it's a big thing with confidence to like, you know, dating old security who's in his forties right, Like, I make sure that as long as I think that there's been some significant time and like enough, not just like a few months or just sucked her before me or something like that, but time enough, in substantial time I think within the relationship, like I have to respect that.

I have to respect that, like when someone has a birthday party or like an event they're going through that, Like maybe you'll come through and I expect that ship. But I'll be real, I don't think x's are an issue as long as they're respectful. There's a few niggas that I used to funk with that I'm not going to be respectful with, Like I would say lover boy for one, if he gets a new girlfriend. I'm always

going to flirt with him. I don't care hospital dick never and ever, will I ever ever be like that's a better word you want to call this, say happy birthday? Oh my godness, just disrespectful what I'm saying, Like, there's just some where the connection is so strong to see. I think that that is the problem though, Like in terms of I think different when it's someone you're in you were in love with, No, but I'm talking about

you being on the other end. That's the problem, which is why there there becomes this problem when cut me off in if I'm letting you, if I'm allowing you to have these relationships, I would hope that you make sure that person also respects me. And you're saying you ain't, You ain't respecting ship. I don't not with only because I think that ownership that still your dick is what is what it is. No, Like there's a part of

me sometimes I just feel feel the same way. I'm gonna tell you right now, Like if a nigga asked me and I came into a relationship and they were like, yo, what about him, I'd be like, oh, like if I see him, like I don't know we have a thing. I would be honest, what do you I mean like it's not really unfit, Like there's unfinished business. There is no closure. I need you to find it if if she has said anything in this motherfucking minutes, it is that. I just I just think that that that you trist

about everybody knows just came in here. Maybe have Do you not know everybody has one? The bit you gotta worry about, you know, then you gotta where everybody knows one. You're telling me you don't know that one that I'm not if I'm if I'm in a relationship now and I do respect the person I'm with, there's no way I'm gonna tell him, just so you know, I'm sorry.

That's gonna be. That's gonna be on your that's gonna be look even businessess Like I felt like old Bay has a bit should I'd be like, I know that's that one little bit that if he ever go to whatever, that that's the one he gonna funk with. I always know. And I'm just saying, everybody know mine the fun I like closure. Let me just read the homemail. Okay, So here's a really fun one. Okay. I'm gonna tell you, guys wants to make it funny than closure. This is

some toxic more toxic. I don't give him more. I don't know what I'm gonna end up in life, but I know a bit. If I'm the door is open, you got close it? Do yo. Let me tell you something. I really want to run out and run back in. Well, I don't care. Anybody sounds crazy too street and be like, y'all stop following me. I'm like, okay, find it. Okay. So the mail I believe it's from a new listener. Uh and I never checked the ms. Please send this

to Horrible Decisions at Gmail. But he redeemed himself and I'll tell you how wheezy. I adore you have been obsessed with horrible decisions and I'm listening to you to say bitch has me calling everyone a bitch and walking around work saying it. I'm just a horror. I'm just a fucking horror. I'm not sure where you guys send questions, but I'm an emotional bitch. This is a dude, and I'm wondering what you got, what you guys got you to where you are? How are you both so comfortable

and confident with your sexuality. What helped you guys get to where you are was their defining moment where you wanted to be opened up with guys or start having group sex. I've never been exposed to the community, so listening to you is so amazing. Much love from your white listener. Plus ps, I love when Mandy goes off about crackers. But why you gotta come for vegans? So I said, because he said I sing this song. I said,

if you sing the song, I'll read this email. So I haven't heard this yet, but I am just a hole. I am a sounding like a crack horrible. Actually he's really cute. I don't I don't know how to judge white ke Vegan, but he's a little cute little beg, you know. I like the what look at your friend? The song? The song still has me huh sound. That's how Bretty spears. He is a sound. And then he said, where's my record deal? Um? Not there? Okay, So I wanted to direct No, he could actually up could have

been records. Oh my god, I forgot about that, honestly, though, shout out. I don't know. I'm actually a little bit great why because in three days I'll be like I'm and not even know where the fund came from. Now you know you are sorry, you gotta get where do you live? We got to give him taken come off stage and be like, hey, everybody, I'm sucking a motherfucking

um When did we got? When do we? I wanted to do this question with you because you're a man and I want to know when was your defining moment and did you did you have one? I'm trying to think, dude, I have one six last episode. Okay, I'm sorry, I'm trying to think. Um, I think for me, it was

the first time I went to a nude beach in Spain. Um. I went to a nude beach and like I have like like many men don't speak about it, but a lot of men have like body image issues like a lot and a lot of men have like eating disorders blah blah, and so you know, I was like twenty four, probably in the best shape of my life, but still was like that. My friends were like, let's go to a nude beach. I went to a nude beach and then they were like, now let's go to the gate side.

And I was like, excuse me, and we went to the gate side of the nude Beach and like it was really cool seeing men in all shapes and all sides just fucking chilling lounge and having a good old time. And then on that said nude beach, like the old man were talking to the young guys and like there was just like a melting pot. Everybody was just came up and the old man I'm talking to the young

guys read me like a big of cars. But anyway, um, and then I saw people in public having sex, and for me, it's stripped a lot of the shame because I was like, why are they doing that? That's for private And then something about it was re liberating for me. I was gonna say, I think my first time seeing people do something that was quote unquote too crazy for

me made me feel less. I'm like, oh, there's people fucking like everybody has sex, oh, because I grew up in a place where you know, sex was to be had in this dark closet, in this room over here, and nobody talked about it. And so for me that was kind of like when I finally I came out fully and was just like all right, we're just gonna be out here. I know mine, chat Roulette, I know mine.

I was were like feeling weird about my body because I had little titties, I mean, and I guess it didn't work because I end up buying somebody I really like. I was just feeling weird about my body for some reason because I thought I had a really weird shape and a lot of you asked me how small they were. They were like an big a. They're like a budding a and I keep good, yeah, because they weren't a bee. But they also weren't like totally flat. It was weird.

But I just remember thinking I wasn't pretty with my top off. And when I was on chat Roulette and I saw that people were like thinking I was hot, I was like, oh, because that was just I was like fuck it, you know what I mean, Like they can't see my face. I could click off of them if I want to. And then once I could be naked in front of quote unquote strangers, then I was like, oh, well, now I could get into this thing. And then I actually that my first white guy after that, so I

really opened up. There's a thing about your body that allows you to be sexual in a new way. I would say the first uh time I did it. Actually, I hate to give a man credit for it, but um, it was the guy that I've shared on the podcast that actually got me to piss on him because I feel like that was like my step into the kink realm.

But with him, I would say he opened me up because we literally would go to sex stores and have conversations about what waste not only make me squirt, but he was so focused on me feeling pleasure and me coming and meet orgasm me and he was my first partner to show that my orgasm matter too. And then it wasn't all about pleasing the man. It wasn't all

about his come shot. It was also about mine. And so I think from us not only going to the sex store together but openly talking about the sex allowed me to just be like, I like how comfortable we could talk about sex before we have it and after. I love laughing, love laughing during sex. I think, who's

the Slovenian guy fuck that I used to peg him? Well, it wasn't a full stop because like I didn't have it at the time, but I used to like sucking in the asd with like this dildo and we were laughing at I was laughing about something once because like I bought my head and he was like, you just said. You just said last episode you ain't like the comedy because Mondigga said the joke in the middle of the same I said, if someone told me a joke, I mean he's been over there, like, wait, bit, you don't

flip the script this episode, I'm not. I don't need that. But I don't I don't need a full stand up routine. While we was thinking, you know, like if we you see she's switching up and I laughed during sex because we like bumped. Heg but you said you were turned around and you were like, what was it? And no, he was thinking of a joke. It wasn't a mutual act. But then I laughed after when he told me, and I just told him, do you want to Darius? He said,

not funny. You can't use my jokes on me. I said, what, God damn was he in you when you asked him what the joke was? Yeah? Actually, did he tell you after the fact, because I just kept saying, I know you want to boot hole, you want to get a nas you want to get a name. Really say booty hole? You say that when you're getting fucked? Or is that like a horrible decision? I say you can put it. You can put it back there, like it's open for you.

I don't say you can put it back there, but your but your tone of voice and your demeanor changes, you can put it back there, back there? What yo know what I do? Man? Do you want to say I got a white girl voice? Do you say, body, say you can put it back there? Yeah? You really went from booty to put it back there? Back there? So you don't like back there? Make a right? Use more lube? No? I do be telling him that you need some more have No, I guess you don't need

it because it's leather clean. What's the quarter or was he an yes it is? Maybe I do need it because I'll be wearing on my little foe. I hope you clean it, and I hope you take it up. I do to wait? Was there a tip there that we are getting a wait, I'm putting a clip note that we are my bottle? Put it back there? You're annoying? Are you fucking kidding me? Many does nothing by talking about and you're telling me that my white boys. The most nigga ship you say on this podcast, bow and

you actually not nigga ship. That is my shoe. You say, put it back there? Put it back there? Is that? Better? Put it back there? Now? Many because now put a bike now? I want to don't you to call that nigga? When the cameras come up and I want to ask, does she really say put it back there? Put it back there? Like? Do you could it? Put it like? You do? Not want to say in my ass? I mean I sometimes say that when you're saying this, like do you think about what you're eating the night before? No?

I told you like sometimes especially because it depends if we had like a game night or a cook for him. A lot of what we do we have that's like a false just like what we're doing a game night tonight. He's like, man, you got you know I said, I want to teach you how to play face bro, I forgot a lot of the rules. We gotta teacher how to play. You know. She don't want to play space and tell you something. I don't know how to play space either, are you? Do you know where I grew up?

Is this color again? You see that you just play. No. I started playing, you know, and niggas like you can't do back, and I was like, what the lost there are rules. I grew up in the woods of Massachusetts, Like we didn't like me and my nigga be going back and forth. But now we got the rules set me and we bring Uno to the nude beach, like, you know, is our game. But I told him I want to teach him how to play face ten face, right,

you don't have the patience with face. All right, you guys know at this point, we're about to make our own game, giving all this free promo. It's gonna be called put it back There. Might be a good game. Oh it could be like an operation. Yeah, put it back there. Okay, we're not anyways, guys on ship. Hopefully there is some There is some merch left. If you guys haven't yet, make sure y'all cop your motherfucker horrible Decisions. So Mandy is wearing our Horrible Decisions horror Hip hor

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you had another episode of horrible Decisions. But I do want to bring this conversation into my point, um, and I think it's very important specifically to any of our listeners that are dating someone, uh the underlying thing which again we blamed everybody through the whole season except for the person who was the clear suspect, which is crazy. But I wanted to bring up how to know that you're dating a narcissist? Because Nicole Kidman's character was a psychologist, uh,

specifically a uh marital couple psychologists. Uh. And so what's crazy is you see that she was very aware in reading the signs of what type of partners she had, and so I wanted to share that and maybe weezy if we can go into maybe you know, having the conversation regarding maybe what someone should do if they're in

this situation. So what is a narcissist? Um? And again you may not know that you're even with one, but hear me out here lack of empathy for others, an inflated sense of importance, a deep need for excessive attention

and admiration, and perpetually troubled relationships. Uh So, maybe someone who's not close with their family, or you notice that they fall out with all of their friends that you've met and you don't understand why they don't have the same friends, or uh, someone who constantly makes you feel like you're doing wrong. So here's some of the things.

The lack of infinity, empathy, manipulative projection, emotionally cold and something that Weezy and I have talked about a lot, gas lighting, and also someone who never takes responsibility for the girls listening. If you want someone who is currently the personification of someone who is a narcissist, y'all know I'm gonna bring it back the same way Wheezy brings up uh sex in the City. Real Housewives of Atlanta, Drew's husband Ralph is in the first two to three

episodes completely personifying a fucking narcissist. And if you look at Ralph and you're like, oh my god, my partner does things like this, you may be dating a narcissist. Yeah, I I've definitely dated some narcissists before. I will say something a little problematic here. I kind of hate the term gaslighting. I feel like it's too new and something that's just kind of thrown around, Like I feel like people have said I've gaslighted them, and I'm like, bitch,

I don't even know what I'm doing. Like what they could listen to a whole episode you did a we did a whole like you had a whole breakdown of what gaslighting means. Yeah, I'm saying like I hate it in terms of like how people are abusing the term. However, gaslighting, as far as it comes to a narcissist, is such a gift that you almost can't call it out because when it's it is emotional abuse, but it's to the point where you have no idea that it's happening, right,

Like you constantly feel like you're guilty of something. And I think that we saw this in the Undoing with to Grant. I forgot his name in the movie in the show, but even when I did in the Sun, I did like, could he have done it? And I was good, he've done it right, And I think that that was the turning point where she realized, Oh, if he's willing to throw our son in there to to claim his innocence, something is emotionally and mentally wrong with him.

I did want to read uh this for those of you who may be using gas lighting and really not sure if you're using it right. Um. I really like this breakdown of what it is. This comes from man of Many dot com. It says gas lighting qualifies as a form of emotional abuse that involves denying a person's experience and making statements such as that never happened or

you were too sensitive. The gas lighter uses techniques such as withholding or stone walling, contradict contradicting, or diversion when you bring up something that concerns you and your partner turns it into something you said years before, or deflects it and describes it as conspiracy. They also nimize your feelings and deny the events that definitely occurred. The damage of gaslighting is that it is confusing, isolating, and often

results in you questioning your own reality. You may find yourself constantly apologizing and no longer is relaxed and joyful as you once were. I just like that because it takes into kind of the cause and effect of gas lighting. Uh so, uh, if you feel like you know you're not crazy and your man is trying to make you believe something that you know to be true is not true,

he's gaslighting and wanting to make you feel like you're crazy. Yeah, And I think Nicole Kidman's character was almost driving herself crazy with wanting to believe her her husband that she believed she knew was innocent, but also reading all the signs that nigga, you probably did this ship. You know what's funny when the mom said that when she called her and was like, he killed his sister, I was like, now that's still can't be him because it's twee nigger.

I was really thinking the the the girl who died, her son killed her because he found her. I was damn many, which then I thought, Then I thought, Nicole, the granddaddy did it for sure the girl. Then I was thinking that the granddaddy and the son killed girl. I was I thought, literally everybody was the moment doing all that ship. And it's funny because people were actually mad at the at the ending of Hugh Grant being

the person. But I thought it was brilliant because I thought it was brilliant too, Because this is um and if you guys remember, if anybody watched the Ted Bundy documentary, this is exactly what happened with Ted Bundy.