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Data Mesh Radio

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Interviews with data mesh practitioners, deep dives/how-tos, anti-patterns, panels, chats (not debates) with skeptics, "mesh musings", and so much more. Host Scott Hirleman (founder of the Data Mesh Learning Community) shares his learnings - and those of the broader data community - from over a year of deep diving into data mesh. Each episode contains a BLUF - bottom line, up front - so you can quickly absorb a few key takeaways and also decide if an episode will be useful to you - nothing worse than listening for 20+ minutes before figuring out if a podcast episode is going to be interesting and/or incremental ;) Hoping to provide quality transcripts in the future - if you want to help, please reach out! Data Mesh Radio is also looking for guests to share their experience with data mesh! Even if that experience is 'I am confused, let's chat about' some specific topic. Yes, that could be you! You can check out our guest and feedback FAQ, including how to submit your name to be a guest and how to submit feedback - including anonymously if you want - here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dDdb1mEhmcYqx3xYAvPuM1FZMuGiCszyY9x8X250KuQ/edit?usp=sharing Data Mesh Radio is committed to diversity and inclusion. This includes in our guests and guest hosts. If you are part of a minoritized group, please see this as an open invitation to being a guest, so please hit the link above. If you are looking for additional useful information on data mesh, we recommend the community resources from Data Mesh Learning. All are vendor independent. https://datameshlearning.com/community/ You should also follow Zhamak Dehghani (founder of the data mesh concept); she posts a lot of great things on LinkedIn and has a wonderful data mesh book through O'Reilly. Plus, she's just a nice person: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zhamak-dehghani/detail/recent-activity/shares/ Data Mesh Radio is provided as a free community resource by DataStax. If you need a database that is easy to scale - read: serverless - but also easy to develop for - many APIs including gRPC, REST, JSON, GraphQL, etc. all of which are OSS under the Stargate project - check out DataStax's AstraDB service :) Built on Apache Cassandra, AstraDB is very performant and oh yeah, is also multi-region/multi-cloud so you can focus on scaling your company, not your database. There's a free forever tier for poking around/home projects and you can also use code DAAP500 for a $500 free credit (apply under payment options): https://www.datastax.com/products/datastax-astra?utm_source=DataMeshRadio

Episodes

#249 Zhamak's Corner 27 - Creating Truly Scalable Interconnectivity for Data

Takeaways: A data product by the data mesh definition cannot by definition be a silo because it is meant to be consumed by the rest of the organization as a greater part of the picture of the organization. Whether that is true in practice remains to be seen :) APIs are the way we've learned in software to interconnect between services, so we need to learn how to leverage the same approaches in data. Within a single organization, we may be able to get by without having a great set of industry-wid...

Aug 18, 202322 min

#248 Doing Data Quality Right by Building Trust - Interview w/ Ale Cabrera

Please Rate and Review us on your podcast app of choice! Get involved with Data Mesh Understanding's free community roundtables and introductions: https://landing.datameshunderstanding.com/ If you want to be a guest or give feedback (suggestions for topics, comments, etc.), please see here Episode list and links to all available episode transcripts here . Provided as a free resource by Data Mesh Understanding . Get in touch with Scott on LinkedIn if you want to chat data mesh. Transcript for thi...

Aug 14, 20231 hr 10 minEp. 248

Weekly Episode Summaries and Programming Notes – Week of August 13, 2023

Please Rate and Review us on your podcast app of choice! If you want to be a guest or give feedback (suggestions for topics, comments, etc.), please see here Episode list and links to all available episode transcripts here . Provided as a free resource by Data Mesh Understanding / Scott Hirleman. Get in touch with Scott on LinkedIn if you want to chat data mesh. If you want to learn more and/or join the Data Mesh Learning Community, see here: https://datameshlearning.com/community/ All music use...

Aug 13, 202313 min

#247 Data Mesh Implementation Success Metrics - The Data Platform - Mesh Musings 52

Key takeaways: As mentioned last time, at the start, it's more important to start measuring something than it is to measure the right things. Do NOT let analysis paralysis hold you back. Start measuring early to figure out what actually matters and that will also change over time. Similarly, your success metric measurement framework will probably suck to start. Oh well, get to measuring. Use fitness functions. Data mesh really is a journey and so will be how you measure success. You will need to...

Aug 11, 202328 min

#246 Making Federated Data Governance Approachable and Effective - Interview w/ Kinda El Maarry, PhD

Please Rate and Review us on your podcast app of choice! Get involved with Data Mesh Understanding's free community roundtables and introductions: https://landing.datameshunderstanding.com/ If you want to be a guest or give feedback (suggestions for topics, comments, etc.), please see here Episode list and links to all available episode transcripts here . Provided as a free resource by Data Mesh Understanding . Get in touch with Scott on LinkedIn if you want to chat data mesh. Transcript for thi...

Aug 07, 20231 hr 16 min

Weekly Episode Summaries and Programming Notes – Week of August 6, 2023

Sign up for Data Mesh Understanding's free roundtable and introduction programs here: https://landing.datameshunderstanding.com/ Please Rate and Review us on your podcast app of choice! If you want to be a guest or give feedback (suggestions for topics, comments, etc.), please see here Episode list and links to all available episode transcripts here . Provided as a free resource by Data Mesh Understanding / Scott Hirleman. Get in touch with Scott on LinkedIn if you want to chat data mesh. If you...

Aug 06, 202320 min

#245 Panel: Lessons From Doing Data Mesh Again: The Second Timers Club - Led by Samia Rahman w/ Khanh Chau and Sheetal Pratik

Please Rate and Review us on your podcast app of choice! Get involved with Data Mesh Understanding's free community roundtables and introductions: https://landing.datameshunderstanding.com/ If you want to be a guest or give feedback (suggestions for topics, comments, etc.), please see here Episode list and links to all available episode transcripts here . Provided as a free resource by Data Mesh Understanding . Get in touch with Scott on LinkedIn if you want to chat data mesh. Transcript for thi...

Aug 04, 20231 hr 18 minEp. 245

Weekly Data Mesh Roundtables - Join Us!

You can simply use the link here https://us06web.zoom.us/j/87380091930?pwd=NVhUS3ZDOS9hSFFBbU1sQm9HQUJHZz09 or find a link on LinkedIn events: https://www.linkedin.com/events/weeklydatameshopenroundtable-da7091373106551734272/comments/ Link to past recordings playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9tZROTS_Pi7TjjhLR-sCtwQVeth6Jv7e...

Aug 01, 20233 min

#244 Leading a Data Transformation the Empathetic (and Right) Way - Going Far Together - Interview w/ Benny Benford

Please Rate and Review us on your podcast app of choice! Get involved with Data Mesh Understanding's free community roundtables and introductions: https://landing.datameshunderstanding.com/ If you want to be a guest or give feedback (suggestions for topics, comments, etc.), please see here Episode list and links to all available episode transcripts here . Provided as a free resource by Data Mesh Understanding . Get in touch with Scott on LinkedIn if you want to chat data mesh. Transcript for thi...

Jul 31, 20231 hr 5 min

Weekly Episode Summaries and Programming Notes – Week of July 30, 2023

Sign up for Data Mesh Understanding's free roundtable and introduction programs here: https://landing.datameshunderstanding.com/ Please Rate and Review us on your podcast app of choice! If you want to be a guest or give feedback (suggestions for topics, comments, etc.), please see here Episode list and links to all available episode transcripts here . Provided as a free resource by Data Mesh Understanding / Scott Hirleman. Get in touch with Scott on LinkedIn if you want to chat data mesh. If you...

Jul 30, 202334 min

#243 Zhamak's Corner 26 - The Fundamental Data Need: Autonomy with Interconnectivity

Takeaways: It's important to understand that we need enablement to do data mesh well. That is enablement through technology and enablement through organizational approaches/behavior changes. Doing only one will likely not work. "...they need to move fast, they cannot be bogged down by centralization of any kind, organization or technology." Scott note: I will say we discuss later the need for centrally provided enablers but central bottlenecks are the speed and flexibility killer, look to preven...

Jul 28, 202322 min

#242 Making Data Accessible Makes Your Data Work Successful - More on PayPal's Data Mesh Journey - Interview w/ Kim Thies

Please Rate and Review us on your podcast app of choice! Get involved with Data Mesh Understanding's free community roundtables and introductions: https://landing.datameshunderstanding.com/ If you want to be a guest or give feedback (suggestions for topics, comments, etc.), please see here Episode list and links to all available episode transcripts here . Provided as a free resource by Data Mesh Understanding . Get in touch with Scott on LinkedIn if you want to chat data mesh. Transcript for thi...

Jul 24, 20231 hr 18 min

Weekly Episode Summaries and Programming Notes – Week of July 23, 2023

Sign up for Data Mesh Understanding's free roundtable and introduction programs here: https://landing.datameshunderstanding.com/ Please Rate and Review us on your podcast app of choice! If you want to be a guest or give feedback (suggestions for topics, comments, etc.), please see here Episode list and links to all available episode transcripts here . Provided as a free resource by Data Mesh Understanding / Scott Hirleman. Get in touch with Scott on LinkedIn if you want to chat data mesh. If you...

Jul 23, 202316 min

#241 Data Product Success Metrics - A Kinda Deep Dive - Mesh Musings 51

Key summary points: At the start, it's more important to start measuring than it is to measure the right things. Do NOT let analysis paralysis hold you back. Similarly, your success metric measurement framework will probably suck to start. Oh well, get to measuring. Create a framework and tooling/platform capabilities - where necessary/useful - to make measuring and reporting against success metrics simple. That framework should be about defining the metrics and especially how to measure, not wh...

Jul 21, 202318 min

#240 Driving to Better Healthcare Patient Outcomes Through Data - Interview w/ Smriti Kirubanandan

Sign up for Data Mesh Understanding's free roundtable and introduction programs here: https://landing.datameshunderstanding.com/ Please Rate and Review us on your podcast app of choice! If you want to be a guest or give feedback (suggestions for topics, comments, etc.), please see here Episode list and links to all available episode transcripts here . Provided as a free resource by Data Mesh Understanding / Scott Hirleman. Get in touch with Scott on LinkedIn if you want to chat data mesh. Transc...

Jul 17, 20231 hr

Weekly Episode Summaries and Programming Notes – Week of July 16, 2023

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Jul 16, 202316 min

#239 Panel: The Role of Data Product Management in Data Mesh - Led by Frannie Helforoush w/ Alla Hale and Jill Maffeo

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Jul 14, 20231 hr 4 min

#238 Bringing Software Testing Best Practices to Data - Interview w/ Sofia Tania

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Jul 10, 20231 hr 10 min

Weekly Episode Summaries and Programming Notes – Week of July 9, 2023

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Jul 09, 202331 min

#237 Zhamak's Corner 25 - We Don't Have to Jerk the Wheel - Making Smaller Correction Decisions to Get to Our Data Destination

Sign up for Data Mesh Understanding's free roundtable and introduction programs here: https://landing.datameshunderstanding.com/ Sponsored by NextData , Zhamak's company that is helping ease data product creation. For more great content from Zhamak, check out her book on data mesh , a book she collaborated on , her LinkedIn , and her Twitter . Takeaways: We should be thinking about how we can get out of the batch mode into the streaming mode. Yes, technologically but also think about How can we ...

Jul 07, 202321 min

#236 Driving Buy-in For Decomposing the Monolith; and Then Actually Doing It - Interview w/ Brenda Contreras

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Jul 03, 20231 hr 11 minEp. 236

Weekly Episode Summaries and Programming Notes – Week of July 2, 2023

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Jul 02, 202313 min

#235 Decom-mesh-ioning - Appropriately Decommissioning Existing Platforms in Your Data Mesh Journey - Mesh Musings 50

Sign up for Data Mesh Understanding's free roundtable and introduction programs here: https://landing.datameshunderstanding.com/ So here are the summation points of this episode: Your legacy data platforms probably aren't going anywhere anytime soon. Those can have long lives but look to shut down unused capabilities Your new projects, where applicable, should be data mesh data products. But a large percent aren't going to be that at the start. Figure out some incentives for people to push their...

Jun 30, 202315 min

#234 Doing Data Work That Matters: Perspective From a Line of Business Head - Interview w/ Iryna Arzner

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Jun 26, 20231 hr 3 min

Weekly Episode Summaries and Programming Notes – Week of June 25, 2023

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Jun 25, 202319 min

#233 Panel: A Head Data Architect's View of Data Mesh - Led by Khanh Chau w/ Balvinder Khurana, Yushin Son, and Carlos Saona

Sign up for Data Mesh Understanding's free roundtable and introduction programs here: https://landing.datameshunderstanding.com/ Please Rate and Review us on your podcast app of choice! If you want to be a guest or give feedback (suggestions for topics, comments, etc.), please see here Episode list and links to all available episode transcripts here . Provided as a free resource by Data Mesh Understanding / Scott Hirleman. Get in touch with Scott on LinkedIn if you want to chat data mesh. Transc...

Jun 23, 20231 hr 6 min

#232 It's About the Value, Not the Data - Effectively Partnering With the Business - Interview w/ Aaron Wilkerson

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Jun 19, 20231 hr 12 min

Weekly Episode Summaries and Programming Notes – Week of June 18, 2023

Sign up for Data Mesh Understanding's free roundtable and introduction programs here: https://landing.datameshunderstanding.com/ Please Rate and Review us on your podcast app of choice! If you want to be a guest or give feedback (suggestions for topics, comments, etc.), please see here Episode list and links to all available episode transcripts here . Provided as a free resource by Data Mesh Understanding / Scott Hirleman. Get in touch with Scott on LinkedIn if you want to chat data mesh. If you...

Jun 18, 202336 min

#231 Zhamak's Corner 24 - Can We Change Mistakes to "Happy Little Accidents" in Data?

Sign up for Data Mesh Understanding's free roundtable and introduction programs here: https://landing.datameshunderstanding.com/ Sponsored by NextData , Zhamak's company that is helping ease data product creation. For more great content from Zhamak, check out her book on data mesh , a book she collaborated on , her LinkedIn , and her Twitter . Takeaways: We can do better in data than what we did learning decentralization in services/the operational side: "We have to level up. We can't repeat the...

Jun 16, 202324 minEp. 231

#230 Getting Real About Data Product Management in Data Mesh - Interview w/ Frannie Helforoush

Sign up for Data Mesh Understanding's free roundtable and introduction programs here: https://landing.datameshunderstanding.com/ Please Rate and Review us on your podcast app of choice! If you want to be a guest or give feedback (suggestions for topics, comments, etc.), please see here Episode list and links to all available episode transcripts here . Provided as a free resource by Data Mesh Understanding / Scott Hirleman. Get in touch with Scott on LinkedIn if you want to chat data mesh. Transc...

Jun 12, 20231 hr 16 min