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Curious Creatures

Lol Tolhurst & Budgiecurious-creatures.simplecast.com
Hosts Lol Tolhurst (The Cure) and Budgie (Siouxsie and the Banshees) explore post punk's enduring legacy and contemporary relevance. Lol and Budgie welcome luminaries from all walks of life for revealing, yet relaxed conversation. Audience questions are answered at the end of each episode.
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Episodes

Peter Ulrich Pt. 2: But - We are Not The Kitchen Fairies!

Intense but Brief! Lisa Gerrard followed by Liz Fraser Peter in Heaven with the Cocteau Twins Artwork for Goth and 4AD - Football is The Key Surely not - Australian rules football of course! Wheeltappers and Shunters Clubs! 3 gigs a night and it all paid off Budgie’s clubland experience leads the way The Essence of Punk was to throw away the rule book It was Rough Down Under & Lisa played Solo! Championing The Underdog! From Street fights to The Stage – Loyalty was demanded Peter was The Roc...

Apr 18, 202437 minEp. 97

Peter Ulrich Pt. 1: Three Unexpected Drummers!

Carpets and Bass Drums! Strokes of Luck that Changed our Lives The Cure became Judges with a bunch of Fives We all took numbers, and we all took a Name They were all unreadable when the next day Came The Journey is The Thing! Does anyone know the Way? There’s got to be a way Fake it to Make it, then Lock it away The Highs and Lows that made it Work Difficult relationships created the Quirk! The Bells are Ringing for me and My Pal! A Constant Support from the Chaos Outside The Rarity of Security ...

Apr 11, 202436 minEp. 96

Nabil Ayers Pt. 2: How Could We Not? – This Is the Time!

Affairs of The Heart - an American Thing! Shifting perspectives, but Who Are We? When Confronted with the Evidence, What Is Reality? Everyone was there Except, the one Telling the Story! Every Picture tells a Story – but is it TRUE? How Do We keep Sane? Uphill both ways and lots of Old Man Sheet! We’re Still on the Road – Who’s making The Coffee? Grumpy Old Men? – No, we’re Coming Home! Disinfectant in the Morning – Not for the Faint Hearted! How Do We keep Healthy? The things you Find on Tour –...

Apr 04, 202440 minEp. 95

Nabil Ayers Pt. 1: Sheet – We Need To Get Back In

Los Angeles Goes Out - Not Up! Reinvigoration and we’re running up that hill, But are we in the wrong sort of bungalow – Bill? It was pots and pans and party time when Nabil was only two! Happy House on Top of the Pops showed Budgie’s Ratamacue! Drum lessons on the roof – of the National Geographic! Inside the Hallowed world of the drummer’s secret handshake All the drummers in Pasadena put together make an earthquake A Night in the Museum with an Egyptian sort of sound Genesis and Focus on the ...

Mar 31, 202439 minEp. 94

Reggie Watts Pt. 2: Out Of The Melting Pot Into The Fire

Love it to Death! Black Sabbath, Alice Cooper, and Led Zeppelin too Adam Ant, B.A.D., Def Leppard and Yazoo? All vying for airtime in Great Falls Montana Would Lol’s Studded catsuit have raised a Hosanna? Hey, What do You Do? What is it that makes Reggie choose to risk all? When counting a song in, could make a heart stall It’s not a choice, it’s to brandish, the spiritual sword It’s the old familiar wave, ‘neath an old surfer’s board. How do You Stay Optimistic? Get yourself some Private Ai – b...

Mar 21, 202432 minEp. 93

Reggie Watts Pt. 1: Kick Out The Jams Thumbsuckers

Springtime for Ex-Pats and Germany! It’s a Top Techno scene, with a strict Social Etiquette The clubs are all clean, since they outlawed the cigarette You can do what you want, but you can’t do it here The clubs are all great, but it helps if they’re Queer! Make way for the Dancing Disco Queens! Gay clubs for young punks, were the only safe places Watch out for the Queens with that look on their faces Rubber and Fetish was the dress code for sure The Batcave was entered through a coffin shaped d...

Mar 14, 202438 minEp. 92

Curious Creatures Curious Quotations: Our Life in the Gush of Boasts!

1st Gush. It’s all Greek in Brackets. Tokyo in stereo to the spirit of Ghosts. The sample debate and the bones of contention continue. No loops or samples except of ourselves. We get going as human beatboxes. 2nd Gosh. Are drums electric? Are drummers eclectic? Voices on the Air? We got Wooden Teeth! Ladies and Gentlemen, we give you The Sonic Poem. We were Born to Funk! 3rd Push. Cold Sweat Papa’s Got a Brand New Bag and its only Rock & Roll but we like it. Head on The Door’s Sang-witches m...

Mar 07, 202433 minEp. 91

Butch Vig Pt. 2: Fastest Blade in the West! ‘King of Tape Editing’

‘Butch - He got the Hooks!’ Topper Headon – He got the Grooves Inspiration and Collaboration Clash! Butch got that magic Snare Fill! But our Hats go Off to Topper Headon! 'Butch as President of The Roxy Music fan club!’ King of the Fills? – Roxy’s Paul Thompson Caution the New drummer - Don’t Forget Those Hooks!! Phil Manzanera - a Guitarist on Fire But Bryan Ferry - the King of Cool. ‘Meanwhile… Up in The Canyon’ Our Evening Star, became Another Green World We talked about Food and our Favourit...

Feb 29, 202439 minEp. 90

Butch Vig Pt 1: The Changing of The Guard From The Beatles, thru’ Teen Spirit, into Garbage

Bill or George, Anything but Sue! Clyde Stubblefield always arrived early Clyde made a so-so kit sound Great! How do the Greats sound the Way they Do? It’s all about Recognising the Good Mistakes! 3am Insomnia and the IQ Tour drop! Hey Butch, what’s on the Weather Channel tonight? How’s Your Bed of Nails this Evening? Shirley is a Natural Born Road Dog, OMG, when the Catering is terrible - Luxury! Whilst Shirley was Doing the Dishes! Butch arranged Tea at the London Ritz They talked about Food a...

Feb 22, 202441 minEp. 88

Curious Questions: We are the Goon Squad and we're Coming to Town Beep-Beep!!!

Phase 1. In which The Cramps’ Brian Gregory, gets on the Banshees’ tour bus outside the I-Beam in San Francisco and asks, “Was anyone in Liverpool not cool?” A Dark devilish spirit with feet like Merce Cunningham. Phase 2. In which Billy McKensie spares Lol from Death in Venice. Billy in The Cure’s penthouse for Faith singing songlines from another time, another place. Phase 3. In which Ms Morrissey is Queen of backstage and you’ll just have to wait. Well excuse us for Breathing, say us Dudes in...

Feb 15, 202451 minEp. 88

Travel Channel: Pan Amsterdam: A Trumpet and a Laptop – That’s my Life!

‘Fanfares and Tears’ Pan as Magician of Inspiration Brings Joy and Melancholy by Transmogrification Pan gets Deeper then Deeper than Deep! ‘Digging in the Dirt - to find the Places we got Hurt’ ‘Prepare for the Big Reveal’ In front of the TV Going through Puberty Fluorescent Erotica as Manhood dawns Between the Adult and the Child Lies the Hissing of Summer Lawns ‘Sanctuary of the WC?’ Up the Ladder to the Roof Where Pan can hear Heaven much better Spontaneous Social Interactions The Things that...

Feb 08, 202448 minEp. 87

Noche Oscura/Train with No Station: A Song from ‘The Edge’ of The World ‘It All Sounds Great – Like a Good Donut!’

Brutality! Everything fitting as we’re thrashing about Looking for Clues as we Twist and Shout California dreaming no Communication Breakdown Lol knocks a beat out and we go Downtown! Religion! 20 seconds Over Babaluma It’s Metal Machine Madness Who’s in the Big box? Drums and Love are All around And a Dancebeat! Is Bigger better or is Better Bigger? Jack the Knife is the One and Only Clean or Dry we venture into Geeksville Thought train set in Motion - Don’t miss the Ferry! A Chicory Tipper! Is...

Feb 01, 202430 minEp. 86

Fred Armisen Pt. 2: Who Hugged Fred in NYC? Then whispered sweetly……‘Gotta Go Now!’

Dream (a Little Dream of Tea!) Shopping Mall testimonials, but.. Lol just wants to buy a shirt! Recognition comes when you least expect it Budgie’ll name that song in Three!!! Fame (What you Need You Have to Borrow!) On the Way Up or On the Way Down? How is that Old Band of Yours? My Grandad Loves you guys Fred Incognito in Las Vegas Liverpool ( She's so Swishy in her Satin and Tat!) Fred hears the Gossip direct from the Birdie’s beak The Bird had heard Not much had Changed Form a Band and Prepa...

Jan 25, 202448 minEp. 85

Fred Armisen Pt. 1: Meet the Gang coz’ The Boys are Here!

The Boys to Entertain You! TV Pirates at Midnight! Fred was Envious of High-Class English chocolate Time for the Test card and a little light Music Rattle Your Jewellery at The London Palladium The Only house on the block with Colour TV First Drum Kits! Where did we hide them? Budgie’s patent Caterpillar dampening system Lol’s kit Hidden in Robert’s house Made with Rubber? from Lol’s Lab job. First Influences! Fred hears the Magical Mystery Tour in Rio! Budgie hears the Magical Mystery Tour in S...

Jan 18, 202436 minEp. 99

Bodies: Mary Lattimore Pt. 2: There are no wrong notes – there are no rules!

Bands, commitments, and brilliant haircuts Thurston Moore and Romantic Fantasy Driving and dreaming of being a band Or a solo career on the Canyon Grand The Cure climbed out over Niagara Falls. The Banshees below in yellow Sou’westers Happy memories for the Xmas cards Covered in spray when both stopped to Play ‘One could have it all!’ says Budgie, solo in San Tropez Alone but not lonely, beneath a Mediterranean moon Reaching out for a connection and kindred spirits With an ET stare into the cosm...

Dec 21, 202340 minEp. 83

Bodies: Mary Lattimore Pt. 1: Mushrooms in the dark- There are no mistakes!

CONNECT WITH US: Curious Creatures: Website: https://curiouscreaturespodcast.com Facebook: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Twitter: @curecreatures Instagram: @CuriousCreaturesOfficial Lol Tolhurst: Website: https://loltolhurst.com Facebook: @officialloltolhurst Twitter: @LolTolhurst Instagram: @lol.tolhurst Budgie: Facebook: @budgieofficial Twitter: @TuWhit2whoo Instagram: @budgie646 Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee Facebook: @loltolhurstxbudgiexjacknifelee Twitter: @LolBudgieJCKNF Instagram: @lol...

Dec 03, 202327 minEp. 82

Uh Oh: Mark Bowen (IDLES) and the Attack of the Bionic Man

Brutalism! Expression, impressions and Thrashing About Body and Rhythms - finding the Space Favourite guitarists are all really Bad Everything sounding off-kilter and never in Place Joy as an Act of Resistance! Impact and choosing the Moment Being Quiet to being Profound Convergence from Differing Influences Drums are Preferred All round Ultra Mono! Marc can be Chaotic and Indefinite! On Foundations of Solid Bass and Drum But where is the ONE! When you Need it? Turning Left when it’s Comfortably...

Nov 16, 202346 minEp. 81

Uh Oh: Arrow de Wilde: Starcrawler – Float Like A Butterfly Sting Like A Bee

Uh Oh – Here We Go! Writing a song usually takes So Long Jacknife had a melody and the music was strong Arrow had ideas for words on her Phone She Dived in Fearless and Created The Zone Ch-Ch Ch-Ch Ch-Ch Ch-Ch Cherry Bomb! Arrow started out as A Drummer And knew the Drummer’s Importance Lol could have sung like Joe Strummer But Arrow’s Passion was Performance Arrow and The Ants! Planning the Stage and the Things that need Care California was lost in a Shoe-gaze Stare Starcrawler first played in ...

Nov 09, 202348 minEp. 80

We Got To Move: Isaac Brock: Happy days in the Integratron?

25 years after the event he would be free. On his porch in Portland, Oregon Destroying the wood. Looking legit in the jail jumpsuit Banging cans and smashing cars up In the rage room Remodeled his kitchen with a bowling ball A disaster Issac was as excited about singing on our record as were we having him on the record Steve Severin's dance the Mussolini house party Syncopate stuff Budgie born to beat box Our fav line is "it's eleven not noon, checkout is soon" No check in until 4pm? Issac's tou...

Nov 02, 202331 minEp. 79

Ghosted at Home feat. Bobby Gillespie: ‘Hoppin’ and boppin’ - Flippin and floppin’

One of us changed - One stayed the same Let’s start at the very beginning The Spirit and Magic of it A Simple process - A Breakdown of Sorts Boom Boom Boom Boom Time after time after time after time Composite born of Scribbles and Noise Three Ideas with Strange Titles Begat Three lyrics and Melodies Lol’s Impersonation of a Small dog My nervous system collapsing like buildings Bobby asked, ‘Have you got any Lyrics?’ We said, ‘Surprise us!’ Dipping in During Lock-Down Using Lyrics as Drummers Dir...

Oct 26, 202327 minEp. 78

Celeste Bell Pt. 2: The Do-It-Yourself World of X-Ray Spex

Exploding Suburban Myths Feminism, Formica and Friends Watch the curtains twitch for a brand-new switch Another music from a different day-glo kitchen Myriad, misogynistic, moustachioed men GermFree Adolescents! Poly’s lyrics reach out across time Don’t touch me please I can’t take the wants and needs! Poly sings Love songs and laments for the voiceless ones New Yorks a-Go-go! A formative experience for Poly and the boys Two gigs a night made a mind changing noise X-Ray Spex were the first punks...

Oct 16, 202330 minEp. 77

Celeste Bell Pt. 1: The Eccentricity of Everyday People’

The Day The World Turned Day-Glo Celeste made a Film about her Mum Poly Styrene Six years in the Making ‘Twas A Labour of Love Clearing Permissions like Pulling Hen’s Teeth We Share the Frustration, the Push and the Shove GermFree Adolescents! Poly Adored Señor Salvador Dali His Port Lligat studio a Pilgrimage Place Young Lol’s French Girlfriend paraded her cat A cat on a lead with a smile on it’s face I Am a Cliché! Valuable Time Made a Difference Personal Real and True Honest and Believable Fe...

Aug 31, 202336 minEp. 76

Pt. 2: Bethany Cosentino Just Says Fuck It

Who’s That Girl? Concentric Circles and Avoiding Repetition When The World Shutdown The Questioning Began Bethany had a Life Changing Awakening On-Screen-Only Relationships! Ice-Cold Bitch and Her July Jacket Bethany has some Secret Tea to Spill! Be Whatever You Want to Be! What’s Through Your Keyhole? Balancing Real Relationships! Space, Space, Space, and More Space! Professional Relationships – The Little Things become Mountains How Often do You Change your Socks? We Are Family – a Mental Fami...

Aug 24, 202334 min

Bethany Cosentino Pt. 1: There’s a Million Freaks on the Streets of Los Angeles’

How Much do you Do in Your car? Bethany lives in Her car - Bethany Loves LA! Lol loves LA too – LA has always looked after him Budgie thinks LA must love him too LA Keeps Calling him Back! Rent-A-Wreck! Budgie rents his first car in LA! Pick ‘n Mix of Environments Lol wants a Bolt Hole in the Desert Music was In the Stars for Bethany as a Young Punk! Bob The Dude Around Town! Catching up with The Thing! Gathering The Best Coast Buzz Digging Down beneath the Dark Underbelly of LA Among The Ghosts...

Aug 17, 202340 minEp. 74

Jacknife Lee Pt. 3: The Transformation of Horror to Beauty

Can AI make a Hit Record? Drummers talk about anything but Drumming Two of the Singers on Los Angeles are Drummers All we got to do is Act Naturally Things the Industry didn’t Understand Will new Technology Change Music Appreciation? More Means More! We love and Embrace Computers We love and Embrace Individuality We love and Embrace Cohesive Collaboration Now Cue the Music! Good Food and A Donut! Jacknife describes his Daily Process Everybody’s a Drummer – The International Conversation What’s G...

Aug 10, 202326 minEp. 73

Jacknife Lee Pt. 2: Keeping 1000 Lights on for All

Neil Diamond put Stones in Jacknife’s shoes Musicians with No Stations - Anyone can do Anything Jacknife loves The Cure and The Banshees and Drums (We’re off to a Good Start!) Artists willing to Alienate - to do what they want! The Gender Change Box – Expanding the Arsenal! Documenting Discovery – Being a Band - Not a Brand The Cure’s 1st album was their live setlist On 17 Seconds they swapped instruments - No set formula Discussion is healthy but Discussion takes time! Vocalists are Tricky! Mus...

Aug 03, 202334 minEp. 72

Jacknife Lee Pt. 1: The Stroke of True Genius

Jacknife never remembers the big moments. Q. Why are we so busy? A. We have an album coming out! Blatant Plug: Los Angeles: The Album: November 3rd! Jacknife enjoys teams but was never a joiner Overcome by FOMO - The pandemic begat TIME! Two Drummers and a Producer - Two Turntables and a Microphone Budgie met Jacknife in Berlin on Bono’s no expense spared book tour Lol toured his book in South America to Arequipa in Peru. Q. Does Bono do impersonations? A. Yes, a very dark Rupert Murdoch Robert ...

Jul 27, 202335 minEp. 71

Wayne Hussey Pt. 2: Panic In Detroit!

Let me in - I’m in the band! It goes like this: Lol - Newcastle Holiday Inn – Sauna – Towel – Door – Fire Escape – Reception – Room-Key! Wayne - Bristol - Liverpool - Leeds – London – California – Brazil – Love - 20 Years! Lol – California – Home - 30 Years Ago - Home is Where the Ticker Tocks . The Circus was Excitement when we Moved from where we Started In a band it’s simpler to do what we do and Live anywhere Alan Vega a lonely man and a stranger in a strange land Budgie ran a Berlin Red Lig...

Jul 20, 202324 minEp. 70

Wayne Hussey Pt. 1: Mr Pussy and the Murdered Melon mystery?

Budgie plays his Big Bass Harp The Cult and Subbuteo keep everyone Sharp Introducing a Liverpool theme You’ll Never Walk Alone, now choose your team! Lol delivered Newspapers for 25 Bob Delivering milk was Wayne’s other Job The Beeb Top 40 on Sundays recorded 5 Pounds a week a new album afforded David K Jones had a Brian Connolly haircut Young Budgie’s Skinhead made the Headmaster Tut! Banshees and Cure played soccer together The Cure played the crew but it made Heavy weather! Wayne played for C...

Jul 13, 202337 minEp. 69

Fat Mike Pt. 2: New Drumheads, Boiled Strings and Burgundy Velvet Panties!

Like Indian musicians, we tuned together Stroboscopic Tuners, revealed that we never Played a gig in Concert pitch - whatever. New drumheads were stolen Boiled bass strings saved money Pitch Pipes were our first harmonicas Riding White Swans We were Kids of the Revolution Thank the gods for glam and David Bowie The Sweet at the I-Beam and their 3-part harmonies Deep Purple and The Beach Boys combined That a good catchy song makes a band worth it’s char-monies. Took NOFX a decade to find Buddy Ho...

Jul 06, 202327 minEp. 68
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