My 1st is in Punk but Never in Junk My 2nd is in Museum but never in Mausoleum My 3rd is a Shop of Tartan punk Underwear My 4TH is Shock of Electric Blue Head Hair Who am I? Lol has the stuff the Hall of Fame Loves Stan Laurel jokes follow Budgie like Doves Lol sounds Australian? Mike’s a Bostonian! We love San Francisco and the fog on The Bay We love the old iBeam and we love Lol’s son Gray The Cure and The Banshees played there in its Hey day Mike saw The Sweet there but we’d all gone away! Bo...
Jun 29, 2023•31 min•Ep. 67
Sad story for our friend in Turkey but we remain positive for a good end. Lol and Budgie hopped with Joy to see the Kodo drummers in concert Budgie met Kodo Principal Leonard Eto via prog rock legend Hoppy Kamiyama Leo and Budgie drummed and Hoppy vibed with Chaos tapes and the Hai! album was born In 1977 The Clash drummer Nicky ‘Topper’ Headon was Budgie’s inspiration! Lol’s mentor Andy McBride taught him the beats of The Clash Kraftwerk introduced us to new sounds and the beating heart of Germ...
Jun 16, 2023•19 min•Ep. 66
Heavy Rotation for The Siouxsie Bus Party Linton Kwesi-Johnson - Forces of Victory Psychedelic Furs - India NIN - Pretty Hate Machine London’s Satellite Towns Swingin’ - Dodgy Policing the Numbskulls Mr Murphy with his baseball bat “Oi, cut it out son or your brown bread.” “Sorry Guv I’ll be leaving then.” Robert’s Red Vinyl Box Simon and Kate Bush’s ‘Hounds of Love’ Club Tolhurst and Club Smith Evelyn ‘Champagne’ king Shits and Giggles with Iron Maiden’s ‘Bring your Daughter to the Slaughter’ K...
Jun 08, 2023•21 min•Ep. 65
Machine Gunners’ Ear No Elvis, Beatles, or The Rolling Stones in 1977 Bad brains, Minor Threat and Fugazi - at 14! Washington DC’s 9:30 Club, The Black Cat and Washington Plaza The Walkmen cometh in 2000 Eric’s Club matinee, it’s a drive-in Saturday, lots of creativity from NYC In A Forest or In Dust, the Walkmen place their trust, in the Siouxsie-Bob sound, merci! Bob and Lol’s brothers played music to be loud, discovering the rebel inside From Liverpool to Boston, no charm in the venues, guys ...
Jun 01, 2023•39 min•Ep. 64
‘The people I remember…’ Mutual respect, the Bloc Party had Kele and collaborators, what’s good and what’s bad Together on tour, but then things change Russell ‘n Kele retain musical respect Musical Respect is a necessary thing Banshees Guitarists, All the Young Johns Spizz oil and the Banshees, It’s a Family Affair Kele and James Murphy and their traveling bands Having kids and Touring Keep us Peter Pan style. Chilli Pepper pals, Prodigal Sons ‘In the desert you can remember your name’ ‘Life’s ...
May 05, 2023•37 min•Season 3Ep. 43
Concentric Circles of Life and the Nightmare of Brexit Kele from London via Edinburgh and Liverpool Budgie in France, London and Berlin Lol in the USA for 25 years Old UK market towns when the pubs are closed Would anyone want a return to 70’s England? Out of Brussels - Nefarious reasons? Strawberries full of chemicals? Capitalism - Free labour? Big Agri eats labour Children pick berries - Human nature stagnates Automation stealing jobs - packing our bags Armed response in Beverly Hills Belfast’...
Apr 27, 2023•40 min•Season 3Ep. 42
Invisible Darlings - Fast piano Harpsichord music - Gregorian chant Pioneer days - with the Avant Garde We needed friends - Americans are friendly! Sleep? luxury - no sleep ‘til Hammersmith! Steak and Shake lady - Rambling about Lions Daniel’s den - Puts him in a better mood Lol and Budgie - protected from the banter Years of drumming makes hearing sparse! Four sevens Clash! - We’re all numerologists Playing each other’s instruments - in search of a tune Hawkwind’s Silver Machine and 7 by 7 Lol ...
Apr 20, 2023•34 min•Season 3Ep. 41
Circuit Bending- Can you Feel it? Krautrock’s influence – Faust, Neu! and Amon Düül II Budgie mimics the white noise intro of Hawkwind’s ‘Silver Machine’ Lol moves from drums to keys and an early Apple Mac The Cure still Luddites for Pornography Live OMD and Echo and The Bunnymen Budgie gave The Bunnymen a cymbal Lol and Budgie and the Punk revolution Loose electronics, unique sounds, and improvisation Avey & Animal Collective bend the Yamaha DX27 like Brian Eno! What’s the patch Today Kids?...
Apr 13, 2023•39 min•Season 3Ep. 40
Wild is the Wind & Vulnerability Budgie is Shirley’s all-time favourite Drummer of her all-time favourite Band! Budgie Blushes in glorious Surround-Sound When Garbage played their first London show in 1995 Budgie was moshing in the pit with Banshees’ Billy Chainsaw Shirley felt as overwhelmed as Budgie did by Bowie Golden Years 30 Big ones and Shirley couldn’t have dreamed it 25 Big ones for Lol in his old LA chair Shirley loves Lol saying ‘Butch’ in his best Scottish accent A Hard time in L...
Apr 06, 2023•51 min•Season 3Ep. 39
Manifesting - Liberation for Your Soul! Changing is Challenging - Crazy and Uncomfortable Letting go of everything - Accelerate the Spiritual Meg finds less companionship – and a big shift in people’s attitudes Finding a better way – with People that heal Budgie experiences healing - Negating Negativity As we get better, better things happen Lol is Awake - Right Now! Meg stops to smell the flowers Discovers the new in familiar places to find inspiration Don’t force it - Don’t plan it ‘Hell is ot...
Mar 30, 2023•35 min•Season 3Ep. 38
I am Not the Body. Meg found ‘Running up That Hill’ after 2nd album tour burn-out had an Overwhelming realization - that the Universe had her back 36 years surviving dissociation from her body the change is that the challenge is now happening for her, not to her No more people pleasing – an Evolution into a Safer space an epiphany of self-realization. One Universe of Expression . Shutting out the opinions and expectation of others Difficult, intense, magical time leading to greater wisdom Removi...
Mar 23, 2023•35 min•Season 3Ep. 37
Lol’s Spare HoF Statuette The NIN drum throne came free again Beck’s groovy tune was keeping us sane! The Youngest to be in the Hall of Fame Says, ‘Two or Two Hundred the Energy’s the same’ Bob needed convincing and nothing less Lol asked Trent and Trent said Yes! TOTP not OGWT If we didn’t do Top of The Pops someone awful would. Did Talvin see Budgie play an Electronic Marimba? Ilan is a Musician and Drums his first love The Rhythm of Music and the Energy of Life! More About Drums and Food! Gui...
Mar 16, 2023•39 min•Season 3Ep. 36
When not on tour Ilan is at his mixing desk No exercise for young Lol - now he loves the gym The Cure main man does not - (Unless he pumps at night) Lol was a man of extremes - Smoking was his hardest stop Budgie sent a taxi for his ciggies - and sometimes ate a Porky-Pie (Or was that his drum co.?) No gaffe tape on Budgie’s drums Instantaneous? Budgie and Lol hear their twisted addled brains Will Budgie live in Lols garage? Jimmy Page told Pearl he’s too friggin’ loud! Budgie and the tricks of ...
Mar 09, 2023•43 min•Season 3Ep. 35
The first time may be exciting, but it sucks the life out of everything. It's the druggist’s dilemma - missing stuff when young Lush stopped and Everything changed It's good the world changed too. Early 90’s Game Changers Life without a safety net, no gold watch Lol found his Inner Chuck Berry in South America Miki Liked that and Budgie’s drumming The Cure and The Banshees emerged from an Innocent Time Gilbert and George v Lol and Budgie Drinking with The Wankers at 5am From Whitechapel to Soho ...
Mar 02, 2023•32 min•Season 3Ep. 34
Miki as Unsettled global traveller Miki as Chameleon in retreat Miki and band as family What the industry wants, the public gets. Miki angered by press with no vision for female fronted bands For the lack of imagination to talk to a band with interesting corners Britop was a return to the bad of the 70’s with image and marketing dictating TOTP and the flashing neon Siouxsie sign Lol went off the rails at 22 The Cure should have taken a break Delivering product can destroy a band The Brits love y...
Feb 23, 2023•36 min•Season 3Ep. 33
Miki and Budgie met a long time ago – was it after a Curve show? Miki with Red hair, Budgie with blonde they were a good Match ! Struck up many enlightening conversations!! The lost evenings with Donald - hairdresser to the stars. Budgie drank in Heaven (Underneath the Arches) Picked up a date but didn’t realise it, Not green, but pleasant, especially after a few Manhattans! We were all young then! Emotional Babies! Budgie and Lol love Miki’s Memoir! Honest and Authentic - which it’s hard to Be....
Feb 16, 2023•47 min•Season 3Ep. 32
It was The Birthday Party’s 1st London gig When Budgie gate-crashed their dressing room The party was a witty one from midnight ‘til Dawn Melting in the daylight at 7am, all bright and scrubbed. Editing for K-Tel specials, Nick fearlessly edits the multi-track vertically AND horizontally! Lol bought ‘The Lamb’, with a scratch that jumped in time - A miracle! Budgie feels the spirit of ‘76 with The Chats’ Smoko, & Amyl and the Sniffers - Listen to the Big Bass Drum Lolly T and Mickey D went f...
Feb 09, 2023•40 min•Season 3Ep. 31
Lol in Tasmania small and cool. Damien Hirst diamonds and Berlin fish Fool Kevorkian death blanket is the best in show Medical flip-flops in the house of Ringo. Virgin Townhouse & Hedges’ Battery. Nick and Phil Collins in drum-fill Flattery Terry Chambers and XTC – in Another Green World lives a young Budgie Nick began life in Southern Spain – moved to London for the Pistols reign Good with loops Nick remixed tapes M’s “Pop Music” gave the biggest breaks Got Nick the job with Lydon’s PIL Coz...
Feb 02, 2023•50 min•Season 3Ep. 30
When Life was bad - only music will save Lol & Robert see the Stranglers together Worship at the thrones of Tama and Zildjian Lols first kit - took years to buy! Budgie’s first kit has a facelift for Cut Meet the creme de la creme of Liverpool misfits Hansa signed The Cure for the way they looked Julianne is transformed when playing live Budgie loves talking to the audience - offstage Lol prefers a big crowd – not the whites of their eyes Julianne liked the fragrance of pipe tobacco But smok...
Jan 26, 2023•34 min•Season 3Ep. 29
Julianne and Budgie in Making Music Mag. No Makeup - No Instruments - No Agenda Disco 45 Mag was Lol’s fave Cure cover Song-Words Mag was Budgie’s 10p bible Glossy Crawley Colour - Grim Black & White up North Streets of gold or fairy slides in Glass walls? 18 with Permed hair - Elvis Presley or Tony Curtis? Lol was in Thin Lizzy with his Blue Velvet Jacket and Jeans? Yeah!! Julianne adopted Bowie’s ‘Low’, hair colour Budgie, Bleach and Booze at Sorbie’s Salon All cats now greying, with blond...
Jan 19, 2023•40 min•Season 3Ep. 28
Breaking Silence. This is Rachel’s first interview in three years - we are honoured. Serendipity. Rachel saw Lol Kissing on tour - or did Rachel see Lol on the Kissing tour? Slowdive’s future drummer Simon was two rows behind Rachel Though they didn’t meet for another 1000 days. Splendiferous. Kabuki intro made the crowd go mental Spinal Tap moment Pornography playing 100 years without a crash helmet Rachel’s revolving Toronto stage. Every bad haircut and stupid interview on the Web forever. Sed...
Jan 05, 2023•31 min•Season 3Ep. 26
Bits and Bobs Rachel’s in Devon where Lol once lived too My flower or Mayflower? It’s a right how-do-you-do! ‘Where you to?’ is ‘What’s up!’ - like a cream tea served The Pilgrims’ Olde English in Aspic preserved Bobs and Books Log cabin moves and Festival grooves It was Great to be out of the Books From Solitary to Socialising Playing Gigs and Fraternising After 3 years preparing the Hooks Books and Blackheads Secret Messages from the studio - Bye-bye blackheads hello Budgie! The Banshees and T...
Dec 15, 2022•36 min•Season 3Ep. 25
The Isms Cometh! Budgie and The iconic Slits - Holly Johnson as a bad-ass-bass-player! 8th notes on the floortom - how LOW can you GO?) Don’t lose it - let your individuality flow. Simone cites Motown’s James Lee Emerson, Blockheads’ Norman Watt Roy And our old pal Simon Gallup as bass mentors. Plays like Poetry! Lol says Budgie is drums, Budgie says Lol is Drums, Lol says Bidgie is drims, Badgie sees Lil is Drams! Poetry like Pottery! Budgie in London’s China Town for Choco glasses and salad bo...
Dec 08, 2022•32 min•Season 3Ep. 24
The Sand. Out there, post-lockdown Screamadelica tour Tokyo, Japan and everywhere more Traditional politeness for the visiting Brits First gigs post-pandemic, please play all the hits! Lol liked the silence and the gifts from Japan But he drank all the bath salts, which wasn’t the plan Simone received sweetness to comb through her hair Budgie got Pocari Sweat at the Manga Street fair Cherry blossom season caused a big sake thirst, Who threw the phone through the window first? Robert and Siouxsie...
Dec 01, 2022•44 min•Season 3Ep. 23
Lol and Budgie Join Hands in 1979 40 Years Beyond Music = The Mystique of Creating Culture Two Drummers Drumming = Our Mutual Bond A Gang of Starving Artists = Salt Scrub Therapy? Books and Records = Earth and Identity Art and Money - Bad in Bed? Music as Religion and Revolution Budgie meets Francis Bacon in Harrods & Lucien Freud in NY? Another Green World just two beats away. Jen has a Sylvia Plath Pen and Ink (And we don’t mean a Cockney Stink) What If? Jimi Hendrix outlived Club 27 The G...
Nov 24, 2022•32 min•Season 3Ep. 22
Jen Loves Us ! We are Nerds, Podcast virgins, we are old dogs for new we have Budgie as Yenta - we have Lol in his pew we have weddings in the desert - at the Church of Whatever, Budgie Tambourines for Jesus – it’s a Hooker’s Endeavour. Rock Star Cult! Like a Hawk holding Rings from Monday ‘til Sunday Every night is a Saturday when you’re in a band On a two-year tour – Jen’s teen love was the Cure It’s a Dark Gothic Berlin and a Devious Hollywood land I’m a Celebrity, Get me Out of Here! The Cul...
Nov 17, 2022•41 min•Season 3Ep. 21
(Hello, Virgin Records?) Every mile away from London Is a mile away from where he needed to be. Subsequent Chronological Milestones: PIL (The Good Years) 79 - 85 / Killing Joke - Extremities / Ministry - In A Cage - 12 Weeks of insanity Pig Face – 600 degrees of separation - Budgie has the baseball cap! NIN’S Head like a Hole and Wish / Murder Inc and still out there! Street lives…. (Rail ‘em in and Regiment) Setlists? Who uses a set-list? PIL had a looseness that belied their commitment New Yor...
Nov 10, 2022•45 min•Season 3Ep. 20
Pepper Loves TKK NYC 1000 Years ago Lol jumps Boulders in Central Park Banshees at the Beacon Theatre Lol and The Cure again for Reflections Budgie at The Mayflower and The Grammercy Park Watch out for the Cockroaches! Lol Loves LA - Home Sweet Home! Not Discovered or Destroyed Personalities and Support Systems Pepper’s NYC lockdown - Throwing tips for food. Booster Party Time! Budgie and Pepper Chock full of Antibodies NYC still loud! The Stage is still Fun! Choir at 7 years old Lol - no stage ...
Nov 03, 2022•38 min•Season 3Ep. 19
Q:1 Mark C of the Gold Coast asks will Budgie make a Beatboxing debut? Budgie demonstrates the orifice-ial beats to ‘El Dia De Los Muertos’ and ‘Tattoo’. Maybe a beatbox compilation? Q:2 Eric Vonk asks about the 1980’s synth-drum – did we fall in love? Lol went, Tsch-tsch, Stephen Morris went, ka-ka-ka-ka and Budgie went, Dink-dink & Drooove! We all were in danger of serious wrist injury – but yes, we fell in love. Q:3 Eric also asks Lol for his happiest moment in The Cure, Lol talks about t...
Oct 27, 2022•16 min•Season 3Ep. 18
Only his mother and Micky D., call Lol, Laurence Budgie posits, Micky D., polished the shoes on the tour bus Were the banshees upset when Robert left the Banshees? What would have happened - had that not happened? Strangeness in the Studio Robert there, but not there - nothing was said there. Bobby Keys only for Hyaena - It was a long album. Bob’s position was untenable. Ideal of the band was primo important to Lol Post Pornography Chemistry Dysfunction (PPCD) Lol went to Cadaques with a French ...
Oct 20, 2022•27 min•Season 3Ep. 17
