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The Loveland Frogman

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Welcome to another episode of Cryptid Cocktail Party! This week I sit with my good buddy Jon to tell him the literally magical tale of The Loveland Frogman. In honor of the inaugural Loveland Frogman Festival that just took place in Mason, OH, we felt it was only right to bring this amphibious/human hybrid to the forefront this week. This story has everything. Magic, frogs wearing pants, magic frogs wearing pants. Everything.

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Hello everyone and welcome back to another episode of Cryptid Cocktail Party, a show where we have a few drinks, share a few laughs, and take a dive into the unknown. I'm your host Dave and today joining me is my good friend John Bunting. How are you doing, bud? Oh, I am doing terrific, Dave. How are you? This is the third time we've done this because our fucking audio. I'm kind of glad that I don't have a camera because I don't think

you'd even be able to make it through the intro at this point. I'm just laughing too much. Dude, I couldn't even get through that one time because, god damn it. Anyways, how you doing, bud? What's going on? I'm doing better every time we do this. It gets funnier and funnier. It kind of eases the intro though. You kind of relax. Some people when they first go onto a podcast, if they've never been on one, they're kind of in their own head about

being recorded, but I feel like this kind of loosened us up. Oh, I'm terrified, but yes. I would say this loosened me up a little bit. Why? Because I think this is the first time, I'm not kidding you, in the 37 years of my existence that I'm going to have my voice recorded on something that I could listen back. Oh yeah, that is a spooky thought. Well, I mean, when I was a kid, I had that fucking, that thing from Home Alone 2, the Talk Boy.

That's what it was. Yeah, I had one of those. I would use that shit all the time. I had one of those. Yeah, I think I used it for about 10 minutes and the sound sounded terrible and then I never saw it again. I put it down somewhere and we had a room when I was younger in our house, which we called the toy room. Oh dude, everyone had a toy room. Yeah, and that's just where toys that you played for 15 minutes went to die. It's just like the

Island of Misfit toys. Yep, here it goes. Never see that again. No dude, I fucking love my Talk Boy. I used to have, when I was a kid, I had a green jelly tape and I would play it through that. That went through my Teddy Ruxpin. I would put music tapes in Teddy Ruxpin. I never had a Teddy Ruxpin. For anyone listening under the age of fucking 30, Teddy Ruxpin was this toy that had in its stomach had a cassette deck and you were supposed

to put the Teddy Ruxpin tapes in it and it would mouth the words and talk to you. But if you put music tapes in, it would just fucking sing along to the most brutal death metal and it was amazing. Yes, it was terrifying at the same time. Oh yeah, that was like our generation, well I guess my generation also was Furbies, but it was like the early part of our generation's Furbies. It was just a nightmare toy all around. Yeah, you're walking

out to your parents and it's the Teddy Bear spewing random blood. Is it supposed to do this? Yeah, no, it was all just a nightmare. But anyways, John, today I have an episode for you. Are you ready for this episode? I am ready for this episode, Dave. I don't know much about cryptids, but I like creepy shit, so I'm ready. You did try to coax out of me

what the episode was going to be about, but I feel like that was fun. But even like I told you, I don't think that you would even know what it is, because you're not a cryptids guy. You're just a spooky boy. Yeah, yeah. I guess that's the most spooky boy. Orbit stuff. Yeah, just a spooky boy. Well, today we're going to be talking about a cryptid

that hails from just one state over in Ohio. And the reason why I wanted to do this cryptid is because this weekend is the inaugural festival that the state is putting on in honor of this cryptid, which is the Loveland Frogman. Are you familiar with the Loveland Frogman? No, I am not familiar with the Loveland Frogman. I was hoping that you would say something off the wall and I'd be like, oh, yeah, I've heard of that. But no, no, that's not how

we do it on this show. We do the fucking lesser knowns. But yeah, so this story is weird. And this cryptid is frau- I don't even know how to describe it. He's a half frog, half man. Dude, there's twists and turns in here that you don't even know about, man. Is Algor part of it? Dude, it's part frog, part man, part magic. Oh, man, magic frog. Yeah. It's a- all right. So you want to just dive right in? I'll tell you the story of this fucking

nightmare. Yes, you've already hooked me. The promo has been given. All right. So the Loveland Frogman is an amphibious humanoid cryptid that has been spotted just outside the small town of Loveland, Ohio, near the Little Miami River, which is a bold name for- Yeah, like, well, I mean, you know, it's Ohio, so they have to try to catch you somehow. Got to really spice it up. Like Hollywood, Florida. It's just like Hollywood, Florida.

That's where dreams really do go to die. Yeah. But sightings of the mysterious frog men, because it's not just one, as far as I know. Why would there only be one? Right? But sightings of the frog men have been reported as far back as 1955 and as recently as 2016, and is probably one of my favorite cryptids I've ever had the pleasure of researching because, like I said, it gets fucking weird. Do they have pictures of it? And are the pictures

the same quality from 1955 to 2016? So, all right. We'll get into that. Normally on the show I do send the listeners or the guests the pictures of the frog man, but I'm not going to do that because they're all weird artist renderings that I don't even think are from the 50s or the other sightings. The 2016 sighting is a little sketch, so we'll cross that bridge when we get there. You'll describe it better than I could see it anyway.

I don't know. I mean, probably. But before we get into the sightings and the descriptions of the creature, it's customary on the show to give our listeners some fun facts about the area that we're discussing. So, nestled along the Little Miami River and located inside the counties of Hamilton, Claremont, and Warren County, and it's only about 15 miles away from Cincinnati, just to give you an idea of where the story is taking place, Loveland

isn't what I would call a small town. It has a population of about 13,000 with some pretty notable people hailing from Loveland. Do you want to know who some of these people are? I would want to know who all these people are. Okay. So, we got professional linebacker Joe Kelly, who you might know because he did a season with the Eagles, I believe. I'm not an Eagles fan, so I don't know. Whatever. All right. Cowboys fan living in Philly.

But we also got a Survivor, Pearl Islands contestant, Lillian Morris. I, nope. I watched season one of Survivor and that was about it. And then we got former mayor of Cincinnati, television host and fake judge Jerry Springer. Oh, look at that. She's still alive? Yeah, he has a fake judge show. Oh, really? Yeah. I'm not sure how much, because show so much I know. I'm not up with this anymore. I only know this because Sam from work. Oh, of course.

When I go into the office after 5 PM, he's watching judge shows and I'm pretty sure I watched him. I saw him watching a Jerry Springer. So, if Sam's listening, sorry, Sam. No, he'll love it. But then finally, we have Madison Young, winner of the 2009 and 2013 hottest kink film award at the FPAs for her work in Perversions of Lesbian Lust Volume 1 and 50 Shades of Dylan Ryan respectively. First of all, what are the FPAs? Because I only know of the ABNs. The FPAs is the Feminist Porn Awards.

Oh, Feminist Porn Awards. Yeah, I don't know. But hey, good for her, man. Hey, yeah. She took it home twice, son. Yeah, she did. She took it home more than twice. All right. So, yeah. So, that's a little backstory of the area that we're going to be covering today. This is a variety of people. I can't think of the right word right now. A motley crew of fucking... Yeah. All right. So, let's get into the story of the frog, man. Again, this week, we're going

to be talking about the weekend is Frog Man Fest. Unfortunately, I couldn't make it because it's nine hours away from me. But yeah, I figured we would do this. So, let's get in. So, the first sighting of the Loveland Frog Man was in the spring of 1955 on a stretch of road known as the Madeira Loveland Pike that runs along the Little Miami River just outside of Loveland and Claremont County. Robert Honeycutt, I think that's how you pronounce his name, not 100% sure, who was either... Honeycutt?

Honeycutt. It's Honeycutt, I think. But he was either a businessman, a traveling salesman, or a shorter cook depending on where you're hearing the story. I am already skeptical. All right. But even though his backstory is kind of all over the place... We can't even get the guy's frigging job right. Yeah, it's true. But the one thing that does remain consistent is the story of his sighting. So, at roughly 3.30 a.m., Robert was driving home when he noticed three figures off to

the side of the road in the bushes with their backs turned towards him. At first glance, due to their short stature, Honeycutt assumed that they were just three dudes on their knees like praying, which... Three dudes on their knees. Yeah, they're just praying, you know? You never come across just like three dudes praying on the side of the highway. No. So, you know what? Around here, yeah. Yeah, you'd see that. Now you would. But... Anyway.

Obviously, that's weird. But thinking that this was super weird, he decides to slow down to get a better look at these nocturnal monks. And that's when he realized that it wasn't just like a coven of weirdos holding a midnight mass off the side of the highway, but actually it was three amphibious looking creatures that stood about three to four feet tall, webbed hands and feet, teenage mutinous turtles. We found them.

Leathery gray skin and wearing loose fitting pants. It is unclear if they were wearing shirts. I'm glad that we could be specific about the loose fitting pants. Yeah. Or they... Kind of comes into play later. Not really, but kind of. Okay. So, he went on to describe the creatures as having long lipless mouths, no nose, a ring of fat around their necks and forward facing human eyes, which can only mean one thing, John. Yeah, I mean, that's frog if I've ever heard one. But...

That is frog, half frog, half man. The forward facing human eyes could only mean that the frog men are apex predators and should be feared by all. That's new. I've never heard of that before. What? Forward facing eyes, big apex predators. Forward facing eyes are what all apex predators have. Man, I am very uneducated anyway. Prey animals have eyes on the side of their heads. Predators have them in the front of their heads. I can't believe that I didn't put that together until now.

You really didn't know that? No, I'm serious. I consider myself an intelligent dude, but thank you for making me look stupid on your show. I'm glad that I came along. I'm glad I could be of assistance. He also described them as having lopsided bodies with uneven arms and bulges on one side of their bodies. Now, upon seeing this, he must have thought to himself, hey, why don't I just hop out of my car real quick and try and join in on this extraterrestrial prayer circle?

Yeah, I mean, that's only logical. Yeah, because that's exactly what he did. I mean, I probably would say. But once he started approaching the creatures, one of them, he claimed, pulled out what could only be described as a magic wand and lifted it above his head. And then the wand started shooting out bluish white sparks from the tips and- The frocks summoning his protrus. Yeah. See, in my head, it kind of played out like a- I'm glad you had that cue. We're all on the same page, Dick.

But yeah, but once it started shooting out sparks from both ends, and then once it was done, he just put it away, put it away in his wand holster, I guess. In his pocket, I mean. But nothing crazy happened. No curse or spell was placed upon Rob, so there was no damage done. The frog men just gave him a cryptid sparkler show and then just put it back in his wand holster. And gave him a big thumbs up.

Yeah. So after securing its sidearm, the three frog men all turned and faced Robbie and started walking towards him. Now at this point is when Bobby decided it's probably time to go and gets in his car and takes off. But as he does, he notices that the air has a distinct smell of fresh cut alfalfa and almonds. I don't know what any of that smells like. Almonds? I mean- I know almonds. All right. I meant the alfalfa part. Yeah. Alfalfa. I mean, what is this?

I always think when I think alfalfa is that kid from- Little Rascals? Yeah, Little Rascals. I think it's grass. I don't really know. The only reason why I know what almonds smell like besides eating them is because I used to drink a lot of De Cirono if you know- Really? Yeah, dude. Yeah, I know De Cirono. I never drank it. Oh, dude. De Cirono on the rocks, dude, fucking ruins your night, but you'd look so classy fucking drinking it.

It turns you into a problem after about four of them, but- I think if we're going to talk classiness, the classiest thing I ever got was, I was like, hey, can I get a beefier on the rocks? That guy looks like a little soldier on the front. He looks classy. John, what? And I got that, and then I took one sip and regretted the $13 I spent. Yeah, dude, beef eaters fucking gross, dude. Is it vodka or gin? It's gin, right? It's gin. It's gin. Yeah. Don't get me wrong. I love a good gin.

Gin and Sprite- I didn't have any juice. No, I do. Because gin and soda usually add a lime or a lemon to it. Gin and Sprite already has that in there, plus it has that little extra sweetness, so it doesn't taste like you're just drinking straight up pine needles. It's actually somewhat good. Genius. Right, dude? I found a workaround back in my more desperate days. You know when you were a kid, you know when you're a kid and you're drinking liquor?

You steal a bottle from your parents or something like that, and you don't have any mixers? Gin and Mountain Dew, surprisingly, is really fucking delicious. We called it the Green Monster because obviously- Gin and Mountain Dew. Yeah, dude. It's not bad. All right, so back to the story. Upon fleeing the scene, he heads to the local police chief's house, who later stated that Honeycutt was sober and sincere in his telling of the story.

And I don't know if this is true, but according to the Kryptonaut podcast, the locals claim that this report sparked an FBI investigation into the matter, but no idea what or if anything came from it. So I don't know if maybe... I know you're not a weird Kryptids, aliens guy, but I don't know if this could be a men in black situation, if you believe the men in black are real. I want to believe the men in black are real, so yes, that sounds like it. It does, right?

It kind of sounds like people came and were like, oh, we're from the FBI. We heard about this fucking weird frog man. If it was something like that, I would be excited. Like if there was some sort of mind eraser tool. See, the men in black, I feel like aren't... So the movie portrays them as fun heroes of the universe, but in reality- No, they're horrible people. Yeah, if you do any sort of digging into the men in black, they're a fucking nightmare, dude, and I would want any part of it.

Anyways. All right, so we found the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. They can summon patronuses, and now we are at this sheriff's station. So he claims that... The locals claim that the FBI came and investigated. No idea if anything actually came from it, but that's not where the story ends. Better not. For him, it does. That's where his story ends. Nothing ever comes from his story. Oh, come on. This guy didn't even dig deeper. I would.

You would think, but anyways, so the next two sightings of the creature happened within a two-week span in March of 1972, almost 17 years after Robert's first encounter with the creature. Okay. So at approximately... Oh my God. At approximately 1 a.m. on March 3rd, 1972, Loveland police officer Ray Schocke, fucking love these names. That's a great name. He was heading towards Loveland on Riverside Road near the Totes Boots Factory. That's just fun to say.

And of course, that's along the little Miami River. He's driving slowly due to the icy conditions on the road when he notices that what he thought was a dog on the side of the road. The animal darted in front of the officer's vehicle, forcing him to slam on his brakes and come to a stop in the middle of the road.

Now there, illuminated in his headlights, he saw what he described as a small creature, about three to four feet long, weighing roughly 50 to 75 pounds with leathery gray skin and crashed down like a frog. Suddenly the creature stands up on his hind legs, just stares at the officer straight in the eyes, and then just darts across the road, up on over a guardrail, waddles down the embankment, and then fucking off into the Ohio River. Yeah, okay. And we immediately went after this. You know what?

There was a post that I saw on Reddit the other day, did you see that sexy looking lizard? Negative. We can't do it on podcast, so I have to send it to you. That's exactly what it reminds me of. It's this lizard and it's got like its legs spread and it's kind of looking back at you, kind of like it's posing. That's immediately what it reminds you of, just staring at you like, yep. It's kind of, yeah, but he didn't go after it.

Actually, later that night, another officer investigated the scene but found no sign of the creature, but did report distinct scratch marks on the railing where the frogman climbed over the guardrail, which is weird because I don't think anyone ever described it as having claws. Yeah. So I don't know how it would have just left a fucking gouge on the side of the thing. I don't know. Now I'm more confused. Do frogs even have nails? Frogs don't have claws. They have like...

It is humanoid, maybe it has like human claws. I always thought that frogs had like shit cups kind of things. That's true frogs. I don't think that's like all frogs. I never thought that they had like any claws. I thought they were just kind of like flat feet and hands. Yeah, they're just all around awful. That's not true. I mean, I like frogs. But the second sighting of 1972 occurred only two weeks later by another Loveland police officer named Mark Matthews.

Now according to his report, Matthews was driving back into Loveland when he noticed what he thought was an injured or dead animal in the middle of the road. So he stopped his car and got out to either check on the animal or just like move the corpse off to the side of the road. But as soon as he approached it, the animal, it shot up into a crouched position, I assume like a frog would stand. Yeah, okay.

Now the combination of it lurching up and the fact that it looked like a nightmare human-frog hybrid. So his name is so, I forgot I wrote this, but his name is Mark Matthews. So this is how I wrote this sentence. Are you ready for this? I'm ready. So the combination of it lurching up and the fact it looks like a nightmare human-frog hybrid, Eminem unholstered his gun and took a shot at the creature. Now I'm impressed.

Now seemingly unfazed by this flagrant use of fucking excessive force, the frogman stood up hobbled over to the guardrail, casually stepped over it all while maintaining eye contact with the officer as if to be like, the fuck, like really dude? Like you're just going to shoot me? That's the scariest part. They usually like your eyebrow like the rock. Like really? Just like, come on bro. Like dude, just like, dude imagine shooting a fucking frogman. It turned around and looked at me like that.

I would apologize. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I just put my gun down. But the thing is it said it walked over to the guardrail on the side of the road, but I don't know if it was like the guardrail that was like behind the police officer or on the other side of the road. Cause it said it maintained eye contact with him. So it had to have been like walking towards him and be like, bro. And then just like as he's climbing over, like really?

Yeah. I feel like he popped up and then kind of, yeah, just maintained eye contact. It was turning like he was turning his head to the left or right and just walking towards like I'm watching you. You motherfucker. Come on man. Yeah. And I would hope that in that situation that the frogman would turn around and right before he went over the guardrail, he's looking at, he's looking at the guy and the guy's like shrugs his shoulders. Like, come on, man. I mean, you're weird. I mean, come on.

But you are right, dude. Like I would profusely apologize. Like if it just got up, like dude, like give me the, give me the look like that. All right, bro. I would give it my gun. I'd be like, I'm so sorry. Here you go. I don't, I don't know what I did. This is, this is on me. I'm, I'm going to go. Look, I'll give you one free one. How about that? Everybody gets one. Just, just make sure you get shot. Just shoot me like in a meaty part, like a calf or like I don't. Yeah, exactly.

Like I'm going to take my shoulder out or something like that. I'd be like, all right, right here. Just below the knee. Nothing like that would kill me. Just I'm sorry. Yeah. Now, do I get a picture? Now years later, Matthew's was started backpedaling and recant his story claiming it was just a normal lizard or large reptile that had escaped his enclosure or got too big and the owners let it go into the wild.

My guess is that he got a lot of blowback from the department or like friends and family and just kind of like wanted to distance himself from the situation as much as true. But I don't know. It just, it kind of seems. I, I, it has to, I feel like that's what it was. Like, why would you tell that story of you shooting a fucking frog man and then like years later, be like, nah, I didn't shoot a frog. What the fuck you talking about, dude?

You know why I bet it is because of the look back, because this guy was so convinced that frog man popped up and he was getting ready and he shot it and then that fog turned around and looked at him and fucked his whole story up. Cause now he feels bad. Cause now he's just like, he gets to that part and the story is like, and I fucking shot him and then he turned around and, ah, sorry. He was pissed. What would you do? I said, I was sorry. Yeah. Right. And then he, he walked away like a bitch.

Yeah. You're one of those stories that halfway through you realize that you should stop telling that story. I think it makes you look like a bad ass, but then like, as soon as you say the one thing you're like, ah, yeah, shot him and then he looked at me like I was an asshole. Yeah. And then he walked away. And that's when you stop the story and just go, you had to be there. Yeah. It's a, you had to be there story. Yeah. You're like, right guys, right?

But yeah, so I don't know about that, but now the last known sighting was in Cincinnati during the August of 2016 when Sam Jacobs and his girlfriend, ah, now I'm going to give you a guess. What was big in 2016 that had teenagers roaming all around their cities? Oh my God. 2016. Yeah. Justin Bieber. Nope. Sam and his girlfriend were walking around playing Pokemon Go. Oh yeah. Pokemon Go. She, you know what man, pre and post pandemic is just, there's no concept of time anymore.

That was seven years ago. Okay. Continue. Wild. I'm old. Yeah. But, ah, so yeah, they're playing Pokemon Go. Jacob said that he crossed over some train tracks to get to the bank of the, of Lake Isabella when he saw quote, a huge frog near the water. Not in the game. This was an actual giant frog. He then went on to add quote, the thing stood up and walked on its hind legs. I realize this sounds crazy, but I swear on my grandmother's grave, this is true. End quote.

Ah, his description matches the others with the frog man coming in at about four feet tall and even managed to capture video and photographic evidence of it. Ah, the images in video are like super dark and for some reason, of course they are. And they, for some reason show the creature with like super bright glowing eyes, almost like flashlights. To me, this account is kinda suspicious, mostly because like the location is wrong. Like it's in Cincinnati, 15 miles away.

Not to say that a frog can't fucking, a frog man couldn't swim or walk that far. Ah, but also, it's just the fact that the videos are like sketchy. Like if you look at it, and I saw some people try to like put it in Photoshop, like brighten the image and you, there's a, like a figure there, but these bright glowing eyes, it looks like someone just like holding like two flashlights where eyes would be. Because they're bright as fuck, dude. Like they're the only things you can see in the video.

When you said it, the first thing that I imagined was somebody taking like a Polaroid picture and it's like when you get the reds in your eyes. No, this is like, it's bright white. Like it's not like, it doesn't look like a cone reflection or anything like that. Like it looks like a dude holding like two flashlights above their head, like walking through water. I don't know. It's sketchy. But that's probably what it is. I think you just cracked the case. I did, dude. I mean, I don't know.

Here, hold on. Fuck it. I'm going to send you the fucking picture. That looks like, okay. So I got your picture. That looks like a guy who is just wading through the water and he has some sort of like backpack on that has just flashlights. Yeah. It's probably a night fisherman or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Like a streamer set up or something. But the thing is, so if you click on it, it shows the video, but the, what's it called?

Like the cover photo of the video is like, they try to like high, like upload, like up the brightness so you can see like the figure. I know what you mean. And I really can tell. There's a figure there, but it looks, but dude, it's definitely a fucking just like, I think it's just somebody like wading in there and they've got like a couple, they got like a backpack with, with a couple of flashlights sticking out. Yeah, dude. It's not like he's looking for something. It's not good.

It's not to me. That's why I think it's sketchy. I don't know. Maybe I'm jaded. I just look at that and I'm like that, that's just a dude. That's just, that's a meat. That's just a dude who's just doing Pokemon go. He's just, he's looking for magic carps. Maybe Gyarados is in there. First of all, you can't, I don't think you can catch a Gyarados and Pokemon go. You gotta, you gotta catch the magic carp and you catch like a hundred of them. And then it turns into Gyarados.

God, did you, did you not play Pokemon go? Not really. No, actually. Clown. Clown. My Pokemon, my Pokemon playing stopped at yellow. That was like, that's how old I am. That was like base Gameboy color Pokemon go. Yeah, man. Like fucking link cables getting different EVs and shit. Oh, I got the Thunder EV. You need the fire one. Give me the link cable. Dude, I got you, bro. Yeah. So you gotta, do you have a DS? We should, you gotta get fucking Sword and Shield, bro.

Actually, no, the new one's out. I haven't played it yet. We're straying so far from this fucking. Yeah. But yeah, but since then the Frogman hasn't been seen since, but it still lives on in the hearts and minds of the people of Ohio, as well as all of us who love this type of shit. But yeah, so there you have it. That's the story of the Loveland Frogman or Frogmen. Dave. I want to know what you thought of it.

I think that if there are frogmen out there who are possibly Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle-esque, that can summon Patronuses. They can. And are in, seem to be, seem to be imperious to firearms. Yeah, dude, I don't. That's terrifying. Yeah, it's a nightmare. And why haven't they taken over the world yet? Well, based off these stories, I'm going to assume there's only three of them. Still, I mean. But that just goes, like, so the first one was in 55. The newest one, I guess, was in 2016.

Are they just immortal or is there like a colony of like fucking? Well, you know, I think that there would be, there has to be a colony. There has to be a small colony. I mean, how are you breeding? How are you breeding these things? I don't know. The one, so the two stories of the police officers in the 70s, frogs are cold blooded, right? Or are they warm? They're cold blooded, right? They're cold blooded. Yeah, dude, why would they be fucking chilling out in the fucking like freezing ice?

Like, wouldn't they just die? Or would their body just adapt to it? I don't know how cold blooded works. If I'm being completely honest with you, I have no idea. I don't know, Dave. I am reading this link that you sent me and like, it's just I'm really trying to suspend belief here, man, but like just reading the quotes and just I'm hearing the guy's voice in my head, like, not sure. It was just frogmaid or giant frog out of the way. Never seen that in Lackett.

And you're like, is that the first thing you thought? I love that you say man when it was a 16 year old boy. And I love that you gave him like the most deep south accent you could when it's literally just like Cincinnati, Ohio. Ohio, anything out west, west, that's that's the accent. Everybody sounds like that. I don't care where you're from. That's what you sound like. No, I like that. Oh shit. Well, John, that's a story. What did you think? What do you what are your thoughts?

Dave, I am so happy that I was on here and I got to learn about the Loughlin frogman frogman slash men, which I'm hoping that it's more men than man because I think more than one would be would be better. Yeah. When when we finish this up, I'll send you the picture of the first description that someone drew, like the what they look like. And I'll post it on the Instagram to just post a sexy lizard that I sent you on the Instagram as well. I will.

Because that's the first thing that I thought of when you said that he looked back at him. I'll make sure to post it. All right. Great. Well, that's that's it for the story. I want to thank everyone for listening. I want to thank John for being on. Thank you for having me, Dave. I would love to come on again and hear more stories from you. This is fun. Yeah, I know. We've been talking about having you on this podcast. The other podcast never came to fruition, so I'm glad you came on.

All right, everyone, if you're listening, please, if you can leave a rating and review on Apple podcast, leave a rating on Spotify. What else is there? Follow us on Instagram at a cryptid cocktail. And I think that's about it. Good luck all the casters at the Metazoo Water Tower happening at Loveland Frogman this week. Loveland Frog Fest this weekend. God damn it. Dude, sorry. So sorry. We took a long time to get the actual podcast going.

So I've had like four beers in that like little amount of time. So I'm a little little little weird. But yeah, thanks for listening. And thanks, everybody.

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