Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode of Crypto Cocktail Party, a show where we have a few drinks, share a few laughs, take a dive into the unknown. I'm your host Dave, joined as always by Ned's Less Atomic Dustbin, aka Sarge. What does that name even mean? It's a band called Ned's Atomic Dustbin, but I'm less atomic. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. All right. And we're also joined by a special guest today, Maynard, Sarge's cohost for his other podcast. What's going on, bud?
Not too much. I didn't even see that. I could have put a little title there. Feel free to change it whenever you want, buddy. Yeah, I'm just going to read it. Let's put in Leather Sex Swing. Oh, wow. I haven't heard that one in a while, but yeah, we, you know, it broke. It's a weird inside joke with no context. That's fine. Listen. Which I appreciate. Listeners love that kind of stuff. Yeah. Nothing people like more than a joke they weren't included in.
Exactly. What's going on, Maynard? How you doing? You looking good? You look like the Unabomber, but you know. Well, you know, I just wanted to, you know, he wore a gray hoodie. Mine's green. So clearly not the same. But yeah, but yes, I do. I am. I guess, you know, now looking at myself, I do see some of that, but I assure you, I do not share his thoughts or any of that sort of stuff. I don't know, man. The Unabomber was kind of based, dude. I kind of fuck with him.
I mean, now he is. Yeah. At the time, he was terrifying. Yeah, at the time, he was a bad person. Well, I just mean I'm not taking the actions that he took. Right. So what you're saying is that the U.S. Postal Service is safe from you, at least. Oh, yeah, totally. For the moment. For the moment, anyway. It's not mailing like eggs or something. And Sarge, how are you? You looking good, as always? I'm feeling good. My company had its annual Christmas party at the Museum of Science last night.
Oh, fuck yeah. So they have like a big inflatable globe that just hangs from the ceiling now. And I just drank and stared at it. So that was fun. And you say you feel great after that, because I had my Christmas party on Friday and I still feel like shit from it. No, I'm feeling good. I got a big I got a big jug of water that I'm going to consume after this podcast. But first, I'm going to have some some beer to lube me up a little Del Shandy from Narragansett to get me going. Lube me Adele's.
Something about anything mixed with lemonade is perfect. Beer, iced tea. Except for coffee. Coffee is really the only thing. Coffee and milk are the two things you can't mix with lemonade. Just instantly curdles. It's like doing a car bomb. But if you mix snow with lemonade, then no one will touch your lemonade snow. And then you can. But the problem is you've got to remember where you put it. True. Because if you forget and you see yellow snow, you can't have it.
Oh, so you're saying make it in batches in your yard after a snow. Don't like bring it in. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Yeah, because if you put it anywhere else, you can't be sure. You can't be sure that that is not someone else's homebrew. That's fair. That's fair. Homebrew. God damn it. All right. That's good. I've never had piss referred to as homebrew before. So it immediately came to the top of my head just now. So it's a brand new invention. Dude, that's fucking great. Patent pending.
Yeah. New merch idea. All right. Well, guys, since I feel like shit for my work Christmas party, because I got fucking blackout, I figured we would do something a little different today. We're not going to cover a cryptid or anything like that. I guess this episode is more topical than what we normally do. We don't normally talk about shit that's happening in the news right now. I'm sure most of you are aware. I don't know if you guys are, but Jersey is kind of
fucking being invaded by drones right now. It's bananas. My favorite thing about that whole situation is that without any provocation whatsoever, a New Jersey senator was like, let's shoot them, which is the most American thing I've ever heard in my life. Actually, the most funny is my wife pulled up the news on her phone. And one of the first things was, is it legal to shoot down drones in Pennsylvania? It turns out it's not. Nope, definitely not. You just can't do that. Yeah.
I don't think you could fire at anything in the sky with a weapon in this country. I don't think that's legal. Ducks. Yeah. If you learned anything from Nintendo, you can shoot ducks. Yeah. Anything of the avian variety, I'm sure it's fine. Except for bald eagles. Except for eagles in condors. You can't shoot a condor these days. No. That sucks. A condor is good eating. I'm sure it is. There's only 20 of them left.
Whatever, they're fine. Well, don't make their fucking nests on cliff sides and have the babies fall. It's fine. But yeah, so is everyone, I'm sure they're aware, New Jersey, like literally right across the bridge from where I live, is being inundated with mysterious drones. And it's been everywhere. Twitter, TikTok, all that stuff. But one thing that I always see attached to it that I didn't
really know anything about was this conspiracy theory called Project Blue Beam. Are you guys familiar with it at all? No, no, but it sounds Viagra based. It's got Project Blue Pell. Yeah, but if you take Viagra, then you have a blue beam. Which to operate on. I mean, if it turns blue, you should see a doctor, but. Only after four hours. So before we dive into like the intricacies of Project Blue Beam and the New Jersey drone
sightings or whatever, we do need to understand the man behind the theory. And he has one of the best names I've ever heard. It's Serge, Serge Manasse. So Manasse was a Canadian investigative journalist, poet and conspiracy theorist who gained attention in the 1990s for his claims about secret globalist agendas. Oh, this is all going to sound very red pill Alex Jonesy.
And I was so excited when I was researching. Born in Quebec in 1945, Manasse initially pursued a conventional career in journalism before becoming disillusioned with mainstream narratives. Sounds very familiar. His skepticism led him down the rabbit hole of alternative research, where he focused on exposing what he believed were covert government operations. Manasse first introduced Project Blue Beam in his 1994 book, Project Blue Beam, parentheses NASA. Oh, parentheses NASA.
I mean, I'm sure it sounds better and fresh. I liked it in the parentheses he put an acronym. Yeah, usually. Yeah. In this book, he outlined a sinister four stage plan to implement a new world order. According to Manasse, the scheme was devised by NASA in collaboration with the United Nations and shadowy elites. He viewed it as a spiritual war, a battle for humanity's very soul, which is very I mean, he is a poet. I was gonna say it sounds
very poetic, but turns out he was a poet. So it all makes sense. He's just going he's a there's nobody being left out here. No, dude. And this theory is it's right up my alley. I had never heard of before. He's going surge on all of our Manasse's. And Kevin Nash's. Yeah, I was trying to I was trying to hint to the new world order by putting Hulkamania running wild on you as the name of the studio. That was good.
It was bad. Despite limited resources, Manasse's passion for exposing hidden truths, quote unquote, resonated with conspiracy communities. Tragically, he did die in 1996 at just 51 years old under mysterious circumstances. That's what they want you to think. Yeah, allegedly. No, that is what we think. Sorry. Yeah. He died. He died from a heart attack. Yeah. Supporters claim his death was orchestrated by the very forces he sought to expose, citing
his repeated warnings that his life was in danger. But all conspiracy theorists do that. Alex Jones, fucking the one who was the dude that fucking died in the shootout. I would say Bill Cooper. Yep. But he actually did go out in a baller way. So yeah, he did. He did. Yeah. Yeah. Now, his work has since become a cornerstone of modern conspiracy theory.
And you'll see a lot of that when I go through like the different things in the thing. It's basically if you think of anything conspiracy now, this is all kind of where it stemmed from more. Yeah. With his warnings about Project Blue Book. Sorry, Project Blue Beam. I hate that it's so close. Sparks debates that persist to this day. So what is Project Blue Beam?
So Project Blue Beam is a conspiracy theory that burst on the scene in the mid 90s with Manasseh's book that alleged that NASA in collaboration with the global elites had devised a complex scheme to establish a new world order. At its core, Project Blue Beam is said to aim for two major goals, replacing traditional religions with a unified global faith and centralizing power under a single authoritarian government. Oh, just that. Just that. Just
that. OK. The the theories divided into four stages and each stage rules, dude. I fuck with this so hard. I mean, I don't want it to happen. And I don't think that it's going to. But like this would make a really cool sci fi book or like a movie or something like that. Now, the first phase of Project Blue Beam is about dismantling the foundations of humanity's belief systems. This would involve fabricating archaeological discoveries or
manipulating existing finds to challenge religious texts and historical truths. There are some examples that some conspiracy theorists claim that this has already happened, claims that certain Dead Sea Scrolls contain hidden messages discrediting the Bible, allegations that unexplained artifacts like the Antikythera mechanism or the Baghdad battery are part of a covert narrative to suggest advanced ancient technologies and viral stories about like, remember those monoliths
that fucking were popping up in 2020 for no reason? Yeah, some monoliths. Yeah. So some people think that like that was part of Project Blue Beam. I don't really know why. But really, what it is, is like by casting doubt on religions and like historical institutions, theorists argue that the public becomes more susceptible to a new belief system. So if you dismantle what they already know, you can build a backup with something new. Hence the OK world government.
Or the world belief system. Stage two, and this is a huge leap from stage one to stage two. I'm so excited. Is massive holographic display. So stage two is the most infamous element of the whole Project Blue Beam. This involves using advanced holographic technology
to project images into the sky, creating a global spectacle. These projections could take various forms like religious figures, like people seeing like Jesus or the Virgin Mary in the sky, or like an alien spacecraft simulating like a some sort of I don't know what the word like invasion or something like that, or celestial phenomena. These are all
tailored to evoke emotional responses and specific populations. So in one area of the world, where it's mostly like Christian or cat, like you did have the Virgin Mary somewhere like America, it'd be more like they would project UFOs or some sort of fucked up shit like that. You know what I mean? Remember the member in China, there was that weird thing where they had the video where it looked like there's a floating city in the sky. Yes.
Yes. That people think was a hologram projected like it was a test for Project Blue Beam. All right. I mean, arguably that that is probably of all the things you're saying, the only one we have evidence for. Yeah, I mean, we do have the technology is plausible. I didn't look into this and I really should have. But apparently in 2018, Chinese researchers unveiled a large scale space based advertisements using satellites. So basically, they're working
on the technology to have fucking billboards in the sky like it's Blade Runner. If that makes sense. Yeah, that sounds fun. That sounds because I you know what? You know what I was just thinking? We don't have enough advertisements. I was watching a YouTube video that was interrupted every 30 seconds with a fucking ad for car insurance. And I was like, you know what? I'm not seeing enough of these. I'm just going to cancel the car insurance I have because
of this. Fuck. Yeah, you've changed my mind. Advertisement. Watch like a full concert on YouTube and every like three minutes, like right in the middle of the best song. Yeah. They didn't even let the song finish. They're like, no, no, no, we're going to put the ad right here because fuck you. Speaking of concerts. So another I guess like. Not example, but conspiracy theorists say that we have the technology because the Coachella Tupac hologram.
Of course. So that's now there are some examples that theorists highlight. Like there's reports of like glowing crosses seen in the skies over Russia in 2018. And also like anytime you SpaceX shoots a new Starley satellite, like people often mistake them for UFOs, which they claim is going to start normalizing people's beliefs in mysterious sky phenomena. It's actually a guy at my work who was on the news recently because he got a really
good video shot of a train of SpaceX satellites going by and it went viral. Because it probably looks fucking sick. Yeah, it looked really cool. But at no point was I like, oh, this makes sense. UFOs definitely travel in a straight line. I mean, we don't know. We know for sure. They're like, hey, you know, you know what we got to do with these people who have all kinds of missiles, guns and nuclear weapons. Let's fly in a straight line over their country.
Yeah, because they're not violent at all. They didn't just detonate nuclear weapons in the atmosphere for funsies back in the 1950s. Now, technically, should they have gone serpentine? Probably. Yes. Yes. That's what I'm saying. All right. So now we're going on stage three. So that's where stage one, stage two, stage one is the religion thing. Stage two is holograph. This one is telepathic communication and mind control. I knew it
was coming. Yeah. Oh, dude, this is this includes literally includes every single conspiracy theory that we have ever talked about on the show is Project Blue Beam. And it's all in one. It's great. I love it. So in this stage, the theory suggests that the use of advanced A.I. and directed energy weapons to simulate telepathic communications. People would hear voices in their heads, messages they might interpret as divine or extraterrestrial in
origin. And this stage aims to manipulate individuals on a deeply personal level. Now, this also kind of already exists in a swift. Well, no, we have the the LRAD, the long range acoustic device, which can project sound directly at a person. So it does seem like they like messing with people's ears and like the, you know, yeah. But it's basically like you can like target one individual and like talk to them in a crowd of people, which is fucking
wild. We also have DARPA's brain computer interface research, which raises concern about future applications of direct mind manipulation. We also have fucking Elon Musk putting fucking brain chips in people. So all this is kind of real in a sense. Yeah. I mean, if I were to trust anyone on Earth to put a microchip in my brain, it would be Elon Musk, because as he has proven time and time again, he does not miss every technological device he creates
is. Yeah. Perfect and infallible, including that cyber truck that broke because it snowed. Yeah. His his stuff definitely doesn't catch on fire randomly and also never, you know, it's definitely not racist by running over black people, but not white people. Yeah. Definitely not. He's very good at what he did. He is. He is the Tony Stark of idiocracy.
Exactly. Now. So with theorists believe that this technology could be used to simulate religious or extraterrestrial messages, guiding individuals towards acceptance of the new world order. Now, this is we get into stage four, the final act is my favorite one. So I ask how many stages because there's four seems like a lot already. No, there's four. So the final act is the piece de resistance. If you want to call it that a staged global
alien invasion or apocalyptic event. Now, by creating a false existential threat, governments could justify draconian measures and unite humanity under one single governing body. Basically the end of Independence Day where it was, you know, basically that. So we blow up the White House. I mean, not me. Can the aliens do I wouldn't do that because that's against the law. But if aliens did it like that's fine. Yeah. It's if it's aliens. I
don't think they're subject to earth laws. No, they're not because they can just fly away. Yeah, it's fine. Get back in their Starlink train and just, you know, serpentine off into the distance. What was that Maynard? I said, yeah, good luck catching them and putting them in jail. Right now. We're leaving the planet. See you. Well, they can also talk
to your brain, right? That's true, too. Yeah, they can talk to your brain. So some of some historical events that are cited as tests to the stage four was the the Phoenix Lights incident in 1997, where thousands witnessed a massive V shaped object with lights on it in the sky. There's also the release of the Pentagon's UFO or UAP videos in recent year. But like basically that slow drip like disclosure kind of thing. They're thinking that that's
kind of getting people ready for what's going to happen. Now, why do all this? What is the theory? Another theory. What is the end goal of the New World Order? We talked about to the religious unification and all that stuff. So the ultimate end game for Project Bluebeam is a global transformation that concentrates like all politics, economic and social power
in the hands of just a few elite. So we got the one the religious unification. Once traditional religions are discredited or rendered irrelevant, a single global faith will supposedly emerge. Who's going to lead it? I have no idea. They don't really break down those kinds of details. Of course not. No, that's that's that's just details. It's just details as to why, you know. Yeah. But basically what is going to be designed to align with the New World Order's
objectives. This new faith might worship technology or a central figurehead or even extraterrestrial entities that are going to end up being portrayed as like humanity savers, saviors. Now, what are the ramifications of this? Well, you got loss of cultural and spiritual diversity replaced with a homogenized belief system and religious leaders who resist could face persecution or marginalization or even execution. So the pope fucking off with his head. Marie Antoinette,
that motherfucker. And that's in that and that's bad. I guess. I mean, I guess. I don't know. I'm just saying like. So you know what I mean? Like, he'll make another one. Yeah, they always do. Yeah. Repercussions in this day and age, though they just keep replacing them with other, you know, it's like three days where nobody's available and then there's a new guy. Yeah. And the smoke comes out of the chimney. And yeah. OK, so we're going
to kill the pope is what you're saying. I mean, I'm not going to do it because that's what we think, but aliens. No, it's not the aliens. It's going to be the the New World Order. Oh, shit. OK, right. Yeah. Sorry. Now I got ahead of myself. I got excited. The other things that are going to be happening here is you got totalitarian governance. The NWO is said to establish a single global government eroding national sovereignty. Basically, there's
no more borders anymore. It's going to be all just one thing, which is kind of fucking cool. I feel like that's pretty. What's the more I hear about the New World Order, the more I'm like, I mean, could it be worse than what we have now? Because it feels it feels like it's it wouldn't be. Yeah. It's just like all the so basically all decisions, the economic, political and military would all be centralized, which I mean, some of that's
not great. But the idea of like not having any more national sovereignty and just like open borders for everyone, you can move freely. Like I kind of fuck with that. Yeah. It's kind of nonsense that I need a password to go like to Mexico. It's right there. Yeah. Or Canada. There are some potential downsides. Did I say password? You said password. Oh, I'm an idiot. I meant to say passport, which is like a password, but it's paper. I was
going to say is a passport just not a paper password to get into other countries? No, you're right. It's a documented password. Exactly. OK, so there are in the password, of course, is pineapple juice. All right. So there are some downsides to this. Strict surveillance and control over individuals aided by advancements in A.I. and biometric tracking, elimination of dissent through propaganda, social scoring systems or outright suppression.
Now the other thing that we kind of touched on is the economic control. So the theory posits the creation of a cashless society where digital currencies and financial systems are controlled by the elites. Individual financial autonomy would be impossible as every and every transaction would be tracked and potentially limited. So the impact is you have a greater economic disparity with wealth concentrating at the top. No different than it is now. And
the people who resist the system could face financial exclusion. They could just cut your money right off and you can't do anything. So like exactly like it is right now. Yeah. Yeah, pretty much. We call that jail. Yeah. So like you got a felony conviction. You're can't get a job. So you're cut out of the system. Yeah. But this is like you're still you're making money. You just have access to it because they're taking like a savings
account. Like a CD. Like yeah, it's a CD. Yeah. The other some other goals are like population reduction. Some theorists allege that a reduced global population is part of the NWO's agenda achieved through wars, pandemics or sterilization campaigns. Some smaller populations would supposedly be easier to control and like resource manage. And then there's but there's also like the ethical concerns about the manipulation of human life and freedom,
blah, blah, blah, whatever. No one cares. Yeah. Now under the NWO, technology will dominate every aspect of life with innovations like brain implants, augmented reality and AI assistance facility facilitating control over over individuals. Examples of theorized risks are smart cities that monitor behavior and restrict freedoms and basically give you like a social credit score kind of thing. It's silly. But the other one is mandatory technology integration such
as microchips for identification or access to resources. So that's Project Bluebeam. That is what they want. How are we feeling about it so far? Maynard, why don't you go first? I mean, there's some there's some things here and there. But I think there's also a number of things going on in the world that very heavily go against it. Like Elon Musk and other prominent people being like, we need to up our population and not down it.
You know what I mean? Like they're all talking about like babies need to be born at a higher rate and you know, going, you know, there's a lot of that right now. And I kind of disagree with that. I'm like, why do we need more people? And I can't think of a person who is less qualified to raise more children than Elon Musk. Right. He's like, I have 12 kids, which are five mothers and don't see any of them. He's like, everybody should do that. Yeah.
But it seems like a problem. But at the same time, Elon Musk is kind of implementing half of the things that are happening in Project Bluebeam. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's where it's kind of weird. Yeah, it's I mean, but again, it's a conspiracy theory. Of course, no one's like they don't, you know. My favorite thing about conspiracy theories is that like when you ask them like, why are they doing this? You'd be like, well, they have to. It's
in the rules. And it's like, yeah. So they're doing overt things that you can easily tell part of the conspiracy because they have to because it's in the rules, in the rules, because it's yeah, you can't deviate from the plan. All right. Everything doesn't make any sense. So this brings us to the drones over New Jersey. So fast forward to November 24 and we find ourselves in New Jersey where reports of mysterious drone sightings have captured public attention.
These events aren't isolated. They've occurred across multiple counties, including Morris and Somerset, and have sparked debates about their purpose. Now, Sarge, you did some research on the drone sightings over New Jersey, correct? I did a little bit of research. Yeah. I was mostly researching the crazy senator who was like, let's shoot him out of the sky like a fucking moron. So so not the drones. Well, I didn't. So here's the thing about about
the drones. Here's my theory. All right. I got I got a theory. So we've got these drones that are flying over New Jersey. They're coordinated. There's groups of them. Yeah. I don't know for folks outside of Boston, but in Boston back in the early 2000s, we had a scare. There were some some pixelated cartoon characters, the moon nights that light up. Yes. Everyone was worried that this was a 9-11 style attack. It turned out to be a viral marketing scheme
with the least threatening cartoon characters on Earth. Yeah, it was a hunger force. It was the moon nights. I'm telling you right now, this is a viral marketing scheme that went sideways real fast. And so no one wants to take ownership of it. OK. And so they're just pretending it's some mysterious fucking drone thing when really, it was probably like advertising a new fucking drone, a fuck a new energy drink. Who knows? Maybe. But the
minute this got big, they were like, oh, shit, scale it back. But they didn't scale it back. If anything, it got worse. Well, yeah, because now every motherfucker with a drone is like, oh, look how look everybody's shit in their pants. Get the drone, Steve. But the drones that they're seeing in Jersey are like six feet. Like they're massive drones. It's not there's some dude who got fucking a Bridgestone fucking. I'm still I'm still 100 percent of
the belief that this is just fucking with people. This is other people who have the means to make cool ass giant drones fucking with idiots. But then you have the idiots that are like putting up videos of airplanes being like, look at the drone. It's like exactly. Exactly. I will say I don't I don't I don't think that the drones are extraterrestrial because one, they have red and green lights, which is FAA regulations like you need those
drugs. So they're definitely terrestrial. What they are, I don't know. But Sarge, so what research did you do? What do you want to share with us? Because if I got some stuff. So I basically read a couple of news articles about it. My understanding is people are seeing these drones. They're seeing them all over the place. And I couldn't get through many articles
because they didn't have a ton of time to do this. But the articles I did get through, what it's telling me is just a new version of everyone else's reaction to weird shit over the time that we've been doing this podcast. Get a gun. That's it. Everybody just wants to shoot them out of the sky. And everyone's panic that it's Iranian fucking ships out in the is a mothership out there, even though the Department of Defense is like, there's no
Iranian ships out there. What are you talking about? Where are you getting this information? And the problem is, it's a senator giving out this information. So he's credible to somebody, not to me, because I know politicians are morons. But somebody is listening to this senator say it's an Iranian ship. And he said that, oh, I've got it from people in high up places.
No, you don't. You fucking moron. You probably went on Reddit. Yeah, because even the FBI, when they did their like little Senate hearing thing, they're like, yeah, we don't know what the fuck this is. I have no idea where they come from. Yeah. So I really honestly, dude, I'm telling you, I really think it started out as like a viral marketing thing. And then they realized that it was bad and people didn't like it and they're scared. And now all the other people
are like, oh, man, let's just fuck with a bunch of people. Yeah, maybe. I don't know. This is, this is a 4chan op, I swear to God. But there are some things about the site, like, so there's like unusual characteristics. Witnesses describe the drones that they're larger and more sophisticated than typical commercial like models and their coordinated flight patterns suggest advanced capabilities. Now, what does that mean? I don't fucking know. I don't know how drones work. I
couldn't tell you. I don't even know how a helicopter gets off the ground. Okay, what I want to know is what is the expertise of the people who are saying these have coordinated capabilities that are uncommon with drones? There's that time lapse video of all the fucking drones and they're flying like in, it's pretty crazy. I'll send it to you. Then we. But what I'm trying to say is China right now is doing giant drone shows. Yeah, but those little guys. Where drones are flying in
these like super coordinated things to make like lion heads and dragons. They use them here. You can do that. Yeah. Yeah, you can rent a drone show. My company rented a drone show over one of our offices. But they're not the size of a small bus. Like those are like little tiny guys. I don't know, man. So, but it's not even just, it's not even that they're like they're coordinated flight patterns. Many sightings occurred near sensitive locations. Picatinny Arsenal, which is a military
research facility in Jersey. They're flying around there and then it's kind of fucking with public safety in a way. On November 26 drones disrupted a medical helicopter attempted attempting to land at a community college and they had to abandon it because the drones were like fucking with the helicopter. So it's a little more than just like flying overhead. If that makes sense or no, no, I get that part. But what I'm trying to say is all you're really doing is kind of confirming my
belief that these are some dickheads trying to fuck with people. It could be because how many times have you heard about a green laser blasting a helicopter? Yeah, but that's just like people on the ground being dickheads. That's everything that people do. We're born to be dickheads. If you can make a six foot drone, like to me, that's the least surprising thing about this whole story. Like people make big dumb bullshit all the time. People make remote control planes that are
like one eighth the size of an actual plane. That's fair. What do you got, Maynard? Somebody's lying somewhere. Somebody is lying because I mean, if you ride by drone, you fly that thing 402 feet, 400 feet, I believe is the limit for a commercial drone. You fly that thing. Yeah, I think you're right. I think it's 400 feet. FAA is sending somebody to take that thing down. If these things are up there in great amounts, like A, somebody should have the technology to
go fly up near it and see what the hell it is. And B, we should have the technology to take it down if it's doing something that FAA is. And none of that's happening. So somebody is lying. Somebody knows something about it. I mean, there are a lot of stories coming out from the government were saying, I don't know if it's just because how low they're flying, but they're not detectable by radar. So they can't find them. And then when a plane or a helicopter does get near them, they turn all the
lights off and like basically disappear against the sky. Like they just can't see them anymore. So there is someone behind it and they know what they're doing. And then yeah, sorry, they're probably fucking with people, but there's so many. And here's my other thing. And they see like 50 of them at night, like in a row and they're all fucking massive, crazy, big drones. Like they're not just like, you can't just go buy these types of drones.
So here's my last point on this. If I were a foreign government and I was trying to do surveillance, I am not going to put lights on my drone at all. Because that's crazy. And I'm not going to get caught on video. I'm not going to do like these big extravagant things where I fuck with a medical helicopter. But anyway, so the reason why I bring up the drones is because like I said, when I first started seeing a lot of this project blue beam was in a lot of the comments sections and I had no
idea what it was. So let's figure out how these drones may connect to project blue beam. So the first one is a holographic projection test. So some theorists believe these drones are being used to test holographic projection technology in preparation for stage two of project blue beam, the one where they project like Jesus into the sky. Their proximity to military installations
could indicate involvement of classified experiments. Like there's like in 2019 unexplained drone swarms reported over Colorado and Nebraska with no official explanations were given, leading to theories about military testing of advanced systems. And then again, you also have the the star link shit the satellites which create eerie light trails that are visible across multiple states and are often cited as conditioning events for holographic displays. Another theory
connecting the drones to project blue beam is psychological conditioning. The reported drone sightings may be part of a strategy to normalize unexplained aerial phenomena, making the public more receptive to future staged events like stage four of project blue beam, the alien invasion. Okay, there are some precedents for this. The Pentagon's recent UFO disclosures have added credibility to the idea of unidentified flying objects in the sky. And then also mass media's
increasing portrayal of alien evasions from like blockbuster films. Like, again, stage four is basically Independence Day. You know what I mean? Yeah. The third theory is that it's a testing emergency response. So the disruption of the helicopter landing like that could have been a deliberate test to gauge reactions from emergency emergency services and civilians. How do we respond to an alien fucking up your whole system basically. Right. So it does mere tactics
theorize for simulating crisis in stage four project blue beam. And then obviously, number four, the theory is that it's a prelude to a simulated alien invasion. Finally, the drones could represent a small scale rehearsal for the grand finale. Their appearance, flight patterns and locations near military sites suggest a calculated effort to sow intrigue and also fear because people are kind of freaking out about this. Mostly just the normies who don't know what the fuck's going on.
If that makes sense. I mean, for me, the most plausible thing, the only thing I can think of because I just surveillance drone completely out of the question for me because you wouldn't put lights in a surveillance. Yeah. Well, the most plausible for me would be trying to scare people. Yeah. It's just a coordinated panic attack. But the problem that I have with that being, oh, these are foreign governments trying to do this or even our own government trying to do this
is I feel like the sightings would be a lot more widespread. Yeah. They wouldn't just be in Jersey, New Jersey. Yeah. I mean, I didn't know that there was even a fucking like arsenal like military installation in Jersey. So I had no idea. I mean, like, but I guess that's good. I guess that means that it is more secret than I thought because I had no idea it existed. Well, so like if you're in the military, Picatinny Arsenal is pretty well known, but I didn't know it was in New Jersey. I
thought it was in Pennsylvania. So yeah, but and they are now encroaching into Pennsylvania, not the arsenal, the fucking drones. They're slowly getting into other states too. There's been people that have seen them around around up here in Massachusetts. I don't know. Yeah. But then the other thing too, is it like, how much of that are you seeing a drone and how much of that
is you wanting to see strange lights in the sky? Yeah. Cause I mean, where we live without trying to give away too much of our location, though many people have probably already figured it out. Where we live, there's a number of training facilities nearby that the special forces group out in Western Massachusetts uses. So they coordinate with the helicopters on Cape Cod. Gotcha. And the helicopters on Cape Cod come and pick them up and then they drop them off
at one of these locations and they go fuck around at night. And I know this because I was at a training facility with some special forces guys that were also training there. And I only knew it was them because they were wearing the craziest gear I've ever seen in my entire life. And I knew immediately by looking at them that they could have killed the entire company of us in like one five minute burst if they needed to. So that's really common, but also the state police
does a lot of training with helicopters at night. And you're going to see a lot of green light and you're going to see a lot of red light because that's what you have inside the cockpit so that you're not blinded. So your night vision is still good. So I think some of this is as we talked about, people fucking with people. And I think some of it is people are genuinely scared. And so when you see something in the sky that normally you would just write off as, oh, that must be a
helicopter or that must be somebody just flying a civilian drone. Now it's becoming this nefarious thing. It's like what we've talked about with every episode we've done almost. When there's a sighting of a crazy thing, everybody else sees the crazy thing. And then all the villagers get their pitchforks and torches and they go chasing after it, except in America, it's guns. It's guns. Well, sorry, I'm glad you have your skeptics hat on because now
we're going to dive into the skeptics perspective of what all this is. So skeptics perspective is just Reddit atheists. So while they actually all the connections between the drones and project blue book are compelling to some skeptics, you know, they argue that there's way more mundane situations to explain this. And some of them you kind of
already touched on, like one of them is corporate use. Like companies may be testing delivery drones or even surveillance technology, not like military surveillance, but like, you know, like Amazon's fucking around with using drones to deliver stuff and maybe not like to your house. That's insanely big, but like maybe from one facility to another facility or Domino's is also doing drones delivery. And I mean, again, I'm not saying, but like this could be a corporate use. Like it could be a
company like Amazon or something like that. Just trying to figure out the best way to deliver product from one place to another. The other one is like, you kind of touched on military exercises. The Picatinny arsenals proximity suggests maybe classified testing of some sort of like unnamed aerial system they have going on. And they can't just be like, yeah, that's us. Because it's not, you know, and you know, maybe it's such high classifications that even the FBI,
cause they're looking at doing, they don't know shit about it. Maybe they can't even know about it. You know what I mean? It's like the SR 71, like the stealth bomber, shit like that. Like no one knew, like people had seen it, but they're like, no, we don't know what that is. And it was like, well, what the fuck is it? And like, I don't know. It's like shit like that. And then also, you kind of also touched on this also is there's, there's regulatory gaps when it comes to like
drone stuff. Like the rise in drone ownership has outpaced the enforcement of drones, like hard to really combat it. So this is leading to a lot of unauthorized flights near sensitive areas. Again, I don't think this is like a hobbyist kind of thing. Cause the drones are so big and some of them are so wildly different from one another, but it could just be like that. Like someone just happened to fucking has, has a bunch of weird drones and they're just fucking around and there's
no way for anyone to really enforce what it is. You're not going to scramble jets and helicopters every time a fucking propellors drone flies by. You know what I mean? You know what I would love is if like these drones get found in the daylight and they find out that these six foot drones are just like a ton of drones made in the shape of like a waifu pillows. It's just flying waifu pillows
all over the United States. That'd actually be pretty good. But that'd be amazing. But I think what it really comes down to like not with project blue book, but at least with the drones is that it's the lack of transparency that's coming out about it. That's making everyone fucking freak out and speculate. And it's not great. Like it definitely causes people to connect it to shit
like project blue beam. You know what I mean? Now I, I put my skeptics hat on a lot when, when it comes to the government conspiracies, but at the same time, I am not crazy enough to think for a second that the United States government wouldn't do something insane because that's literally all we've done for the last hundred and 20 something years. I mean, yeah. Operation Northwoods, MK ultra project paperclip, all the crazy nonsense that the CIA made and tried to
hide like the heart attack gun, like we do crazy shit. So when they, when they're like, oh, we didn't do that. That wasn't us. I'm sorry, guys. I don't believe you. You dropped poison over a neighborhood in San Francisco just to see what would happen. You know what's going on? Uh, yeah, I wouldn't put it past them to do something like this, especially if it is like a, is it likely? I mean, if it is like a top secret thing and that's why there's no transparency to it,
that makes sense. Cause again, it is by that one installation. So yeah, it could be, but you know, why does any of this matter? Well, I also know there's a drone, a drone company that was working out of Texas. I don't know if they still are. I forget the name of the guy. I want to say his name is Ryan Macbeth, but I could be wrong. He's got a great YouTube channel, but he works with this drone company and their drones are designed to deliver like a synthetic blood to soldiers who
are wounded on the battlefield. That's kind of sick. So instead of, yeah. So instead of needing like a whole medevac just to stabilize a soldier until they can get them to a safer place where there will be a medevac, they'll send these drones in. But I also realized as I was thinking about that, that we have weaponry right now that can disable drones and bring them out of the sky. We've given them to the Ukrainians, EMPs and shit like that. Yeah. But there's even radio frequency
jammers that'll just bring a drone down. And so my question is if the government were involved, yeah, those drones are probably flying around a lot. If the government were truly scared and worried, I feel like you would see those drone, you know, destabilizing machines out there. They look like giant rifles and they pointed at the drone and shoot a barrage of, if I understand correctly, a barrage of radio frequencies that brings the drone down or hacks the drone and just makes it
fly until the battery dies. I think some of the reasons why they probably haven't shot any down is because they are happening over pretty populated areas. If you're shooting down, if you're disabling a fucking six foot long metal drone out of the sky and it just comes crashing down into someone's house, I'm probably not going to be super stoked on it. Yeah, that's a really good point. I didn't think about that. Yeah. You know, so maybe they are trying to handle it in a
way that's, they want to probably figure out where they're coming from first. I don't think, I feel like shooting it out of the sky, public safety kind of thing, you know? Now, when you, when you were talking about the radar picture of these things, who said that the radars wouldn't be able to pick up something that's like six feet long? That's a great question. I think it was probably one of those stupid senators who have no idea what they're talking about. I remember
hearing it somewhere. I don't remember where. Cause the only reason I say this and I could be wrong too is that I thought I had heard. The only reason I'm saying this is that I thought I heard that radars have become a lot more precise so they can pick up fairly small. I'm not talking like bird size, but they can pick up fairly small objects. But it might be, I'm thinking about, like, I think they might be talking about like, cause you can drop down below radar. I'm talking about, I'm
talking about like airport traffic control. Like they're not like, oh yeah. Yeah. A radar. I mean, those wouldn't be able to pick up. Yeah. I don't, I don't. The military radar is pretty precise. Yeah. I think it's more like that kind of stuff. I don't think it's like they're not on the ground pointing it up. It's like already where the radar is for like. That's different. Well, that's probably why the FAA has that rule that you can't fly below a certain, go up over 400 feet because maybe that
would show up on their radars. Or if you had a coordinated group of them, that would show up on radar. It could look like something way bigger if there's a bunch of them all at one time. Exactly. Exactly. But anyways, none of this really matters cause it's all fucking weird. It is crazy. It's absolutely crazy for sure. That's the one thing that I've taken away from this. It is mind blowing. So whether or not you believe in project blue beam, like the implications of these phenomena,
it's kind of undeniable. Like they, they do highlight concerns about government transparency and the rapid advancement of technology and the ways like public perception can be influenced on a mass scale. Like the New Jersey Jones sightings are a modern reminder of how little we understand about our own skies and how that uncertainty can fuel just fucking bananas conspiracy theories, as you can see. But there you have it. That is the, uh, basically the pretty much all the project blue
beam and the what's going on with the Jersey drones. We still don't know what's going on with the Jersey drones, but that's, that's, that's the story. How are we feeling about it? Maynard? I think eventually something will get resolved. Somebody's going to, somebody's going to spill the beans as to what they know. If this keeps happening, it can't go on forever with just, oh, well that happened. I feel like someone's going to come out. Yeah. I think it's a mix of,
uh, maybe non-viral marketing. Um, because I think you brought up some really good points, Dave, when you were talking about companies just testing equipment. Um, so I think it could be that. I think it, you know, very possibly could be the United States government. Um, but to me, it just sounds like where there's so much of it being cited, it can't, I don't know that it can be the drone. Yeah. Like some of it has to be like, for instance, my daughter, I love her dearly,
but she gets a little anxious about stuff like this. So last night I got a text message at 11 o'clock at night. Was there a drone outside? She saw two orange, she saw two orange lights in the sky and they were moving across the sky and she was panicked about it. And I'm like, honey, like the coast guard does flyovers all the time. Yeah. And it could be like flares or something like that. Yeah. Or in my dog has found a toy. Um, or, or the, like I said, you know, Cape Cod.
Anyway, long story short, it could be helicopters. And that's what I told her. I was like, you know, you don't necessarily need to worry just yet. It could just be helicopters, especially cause there's only two of them. If there was like seven or eight of them, I'd be, or even five or six, they'd be like, okay, maybe they're odd drones. But yeah, it might just be two helicopters. All right. Well, this is a fun one. I had a guy, I like doing this, uh, conspiracy, but also kind of getting
some topical things in the mix. But, uh, if anyone has any fucking theories about what these are, you know, head over to Spotify, you can leave a comment on the episode, tell us what you think. Maybe we'll read some of them out. We'll do a whole episode on like maybe just listen to comments on what they think the drones are. That could be pretty fun. Uh, but yeah, but that out of the way, Maynard, is there anything you want to plug before we skedaddle? I don't, I mean, we've been a little
lax on our other show, citizens guide to the super normal, but, um, you know, new year, new me. I don't know. We did just pop. We just dropped an episode last month. So check that out last month. So that's pretty good. You know, hell yeah. Citizens guide to the super normal also available on, uh, Spotify. Um, yeah. And, uh, Maynard's round table on YouTube. We haven't done one of those in a minute either, but those episodes are evergreen. We really talk, never talk about
anything that's current. Oh, there you go. Um, all right, Sarge, is there anything you want to plug before we, yes, the coloring book, please buy my coloring book. It will help you deal with the existential dread of the terrible decisions. Half of our nation made recently. Um, it is, uh, at sarges super normal.com all one word. Um, the proceeds go to me because I'm poor. Um, and, uh, might help you take some, take some of your rage out. It's $9 and 99 cents. Uh, it's available
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