You are now listening to Cryptid Cocktail Party. Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode of Cryptic Cocktail Party, a show where we have a few drinks, share a few laughs, take a dive into the unknown. I'm your host Dave, joined as always by my wonderful co -host Sarge. How's it going Sarge? Hey there neighbors! Just working on a new catchphrase. What the fuck is up? How we doing? You gotta workshop these things. And you know, we'll do a poll at some point of which
one's the best. It's either the... fuck is up or what did you oh but how you doing bud how's your weekend going uh it's good it's good i went to a lego convention oh yeah and um yeah i don't normally associate with people who like the things i like because i don't want new friends yeah i feel that and and people get chatty um But it was good. It was a good time. I wish I had millions of dollars that I could spend on retired Lego sets that I always wanted but didn't have
the money for. And now they're worth like four times as much as they were when I originally wanted them. Yeah, that's about it. It was a good time. Took my oldest boy. We did some bro time, some bonding. And now I'm here. Hell yeah, dude. I'm glad you had a good time or a relatively good time. An okay time. I'm glad you had a time. Yeah. How was your weekend? I never ask. How was your weekend? It was fine. Did a lot of chores. Took my dogs for a little adventure down by Graffiti
Pier. See, this is why I never ask. Because I don't do anything. But one fun thing about this weekend is that you and I were a guest on Scared all the time. We were. We were. And it was great. I had a blast. I had so much fun. Yeah, so be sure to keep an eye out. I believe the episode comes out June 12th. It's on shark attacks. Yeah, and we talked a lot more about nipples than you think we should. Yeah, but it was relative to how far into water you are. Yeah, it was a unit
of measurement. Yeah, it wasn't just nip talk. Just to be clear, we're not saying this many nipples side by side. is how long something is. It was like how high up in the water a person was. Yeah. It's about nip high. I think they got it. I just wanted to clarify. I don't want people thinking that I'm trying to imagine how big their nipples are. And if I can measure their length that way. True. But I mean, just like snowflakes, everyone's nipples are different.
I feel like it's not a good unit of measurement. I feel like I got big old store -bought pepperonis that I'm rocking. All right. You ready to dive into this week's episode, Sarge? Yes, I am. I am beyond ready. So first and foremost, I want to welcome everyone to the inaugural first episode of our new series. We're going to try something new called Debunked. It's not like a whole new
show within a show. It's just every once in a while we'll do one of these episodes, these debunking episodes, because I feel like we talk a lot about conspiracies on this show. And while we do briefly talk about how they're just absolute horseshit, we don't really dive into just how or why. So I figured every once in a while. Let's just really get into it. So does that sound like something you'd be into, Sarge, and also listeners? Yeah, let's get into it. This is like one of my favorite
things to do. Is debunking? Because I believe in conspiracy theories, and I used to blindly believe in them when I was younger. Yeah. And then I realized that they kept making me look like an asshole when I found out they weren't real. So I started making others look like assholes by debunking them. Conspiracy theories. Yeah. I mean, I don't, I don't vicious cycle. I don't believe in conspiracy theories, but I like the
idea of them. If that makes sense. That's the thing is it's fun to let them roam around in your imagination. But before we get into our first debunking, we should probably talk about a term that is used in conspiracy circles a lot, and that is false flags. Oh, God. If you've ever listened to Bill Cooper or his less entertaining fat -necked asshole contemporary Alex Jones, you've heard this term thrown around quite a
bit. So what is a false flag? Well, a false flag at its core is a covert act designed to deceive. We did touch on a previous episode, I believe, where it came from. The name comes from naval warfare. Ships would fly the flag of another country to trick their enemies before attacking.
Now, in modern terms, it's referring to a government or organization committing an act, usually violent or terroristic, and making it look like someone else did it, often to justify war, crackdowns on certain things, martial law, or just for some sort of political gain. If you want to look up a good, true false flag situation, You can look up Operation Northwoods. It never actually happened, but that is an excellent example of what a false flag operation would be. And that is Operation
Northwoods. If you ever want to know how little the government values human life. Yeah. That's a good one. We may or may not get to that. Yeah, it's a terrifying deep dive into the disgusting and depraved mind of government officials. Yeah, I meant in this episode we might get to that. Oh, oh, snapperino. I better shut my mouth then.
But in the Bill Cooper, Alex Jones conspiracy circles, false flag usually just equals manufactured crisis, something orchestrated by the deep state globalists to manipulate public opinion or policy. So basically, anytime there's a school shooting or an act of domestic terror, it's always a false flag, usually designed to take our guns away or enact martial law. Usually the martial law thing is if it's a democratic president. Yeah.
But even though these ding -dongs cry wolf every time there is a tragedy, that doesn't mean that there aren't some real -world examples of false flags happening. I do want to, before you go on, I'm sorry to interrupt, but I do want to... So you had mentioned that it's normally a democratic president, and you're absolutely right. With the glowing exception of the Bushes. Oh yeah. Well, because for some reason, actually not for some reason, I mean, I get it. Alex Jones fucking
hated George W. Bush. I feel like a lot of like far right people hated George W. Bush, which is wild considering some of the things that. That administration did. Well, I think it probably comes down to George Bush Sr. because he was a member of the CIA. He was loosely affiliated. He was, I'm sorry, the head of the CIA, excuse me. But he was also loosely affiliated with the Bay of Pigs operation. So, I mean, and like one of their favorite things is he said something
about a new world order one time. and they just cut that little snippet out, and now it's in every ministry song you could ever possibly listen to. Yeah, and then I think, wasn't there also Prescott Bush? He was also like a big fucking guy. Yeah, they're all fucking crooked as shit. I think Prescott Bush had something to do. He's brought up a lot when you watch like JFK assassination, like conspiracy things. I don't know, but now. Where were we? Oh, examples of real -world false
flags. Now, the most famous one that most people point to when they think of false flags would be the Reichstag fire. Now, the official story at the time was that a Dutch communist named Marinus van der Lubbe set fire to the German parliament building, but most, if not all, historians believe that... The Nazis either knew about the plan and let it happen or they orchestrated it
themselves. And the reason for that is that this incident gave Hitler the perfect excuse to declare a state of emergency, suspend civil liberties, and enact the Reichstag fire decree. which was the keystone that enabled Hitler to rise to total power. Another one of these false flags that these Farnockers like to point to as an example is the Gulf of Tonkin, where the United States lied about the USS Maddox being attacked by North
Vietnamese boats. And this allowed LBJ to push through the Gulf of Tonkin resolution, which led us into a full -scale war in Vietnam. Because at the time, we weren't actually at war with Vietnam. I think we were just there helping train and... come up with plans for the South to help fight the North. But they, they use this as we're just like, fuck it, dude, we're going full hog on this. And then it ruined, um, almost everyone's life. So yeah, you can even go further back to
the USS Maine. Yeah, there was, I was going to include that, but I feel like that's like revolutionary warship. No, no, no. That was the Spanish American war. So that was a post civil war. Oh, that's still old. Yeah, but it goes with the false flag thing because of naval warfare. But yeah, and the media always plays a big role in these false flag situations. They just gobble it up. Num, num, num, num, num. They don't even pretend to
have any sort of journalistic integrity. They just absorb whatever information is given to them and spit it back out uncritically. Oh yeah, for sure. And then lastly, as another real world example, as... Sarge had pointed out earlier, there's Operation Northwoods. Now, luckily, this was only a proposed plan by the U .S. Chiefs of Staff, formulated in 1962, that detailed how
they wanted the U .S. government to commit acts of terrorism against American civilians to blame Cuba, including things like hijacking and then actually and or faking the crashes of commercial airliners. They wanted to blow up a U .S. ship in Cuban waters, and they also wanted to stage attacks in Florida and D .C. Now, luckily, JFK shot that shit down real quick. He pretty much took one look at it and was like, you guys are out of your fucking minds if you think we're
going to do this. And a man on that many painkillers telling you that you're crazy means you're nuts. All of this to say that while there have been examples of these things happening, more often than not, when you hear someone say something is a false flag nowadays, it's just conspiracy theory bullshit. But the more modern ones seem to be the ones that get the most traction. Things like Sandy Hook, the Boston bombing, January 6th, they have all been labeled a false flag.
These claims are all unfounded and not true, but a lot of people believe them and they believe them for a few different reasons. For some, there is a real precedent. I only gave you like three examples, but there are tons more of governments committing false flags. And when governments have lied and staged things in the past, it fuels distrust. And a lot of people like, well, if they did it then, why can't they do it now? Add in the facts, like, in the fog of a tragedy,
misinformation spreads faster than facts. And then that misinformation, you know, when it's clarified by some of the same outlets that spread it, it seems like it's a cover -up. But it's basically, you were saying, like, the media, like, if they catch wind of something, they're just going to report on it. You saw it with, like, Sandy Hook. There was the second shooter in the woods. There's always a fucking second shooter at these things. It drives me insane.
And then there was a, I think like during the Boston bombing, I think like the New York post, someone, they posted the picture of the wrong guy. Yeah. Just some random dude who happened to be there. Yeah. Like, and people, and then when they recant that information, like they're like, oh, well they're clearly covering something. It was like, we weren't supposed to know that. And now they're taking it back. But then there's
also just like cognitive. It's like for some true believers in these types of conspiracy theories, it's easier for them to believe that there was a vast evil plot than to accept that the world is just fucking absolute chaos. And sometimes bad shit just happens. Exactly. Exactly. And if we want to get crazy in, maybe we can do like a bonus episode sometimes, but I've got some fucking stories about the Boston Marathon bombing.
Oh, I'm sure you do. You worked it, right? Yeah, I was in the National Guard at the time, and we got called up, and there were some things that happened that I would love to talk about, but it would probably require its own special episode. I don't know. Maybe we'll do a Patreon episode or something. I got a lot of stuff. We can do another one of these debunked and we can
do it on that. I feel like this debunked thing is probably better for the more serious types of conspiracies rather than the aliens ate my mom. Right, right. Yeah. I don't know that we really need to debunk Mel's hole all that much. Yeah. But there is one false flag attack that I haven't mentioned yet that many to this day still believe was orchestrated by our government. One that for a while, I will admit. I believed
to be a conspiracy. Oh, no, Dave. And if I'm being honest, you know, maybe there's still some questions I got. You know, maybe the official narrative. I'm just fucking with you. I have questions, but all of the questions are, why are we so bad at protecting ourselves from these kinds of things? Yeah, and that is the conspiracy that 9 -11 was an inside job. So today, we're going to cover the official story of what happened
on 9 -11. the conspiracy theorists version or versions of events, and then go into the reasons why it's bullshit. So you ready to dive in? Oh God. Yeah. Okay. So I'm not going to break down the official story like in crazy detail. We all kind of know what happened. I mean, I watched it live on television. As did I, as did the rest of the world. Yeah. So we're going to break it down more into like a who, what, when, where,
and how, just to make it easier to. digest so the attacks were carried out by 19 hijackers associated with the radical islamist terrorist group known as al -qaeda 15 from saudi arabia and others from the uae egypt and lebanon they were all living here for months before the attacks took place they all had like legal they're all here legally too they all had visas and shit um and some of them were taking flight lessons in the u .s i believe in florida Yeah, that's
what I had heard as well. Yeah. Now, on the morning of the attacks, the hijackers boarded multiple domestic flights in multiple cities. Flight 11 and 175 out of Boston, Flight 77 out of Washington Dulles, and Flight 93 out of Newark. And once in the air, they used box cutters to either kill or subdue the pilots and crew. They then took control of the planes and intentionally crashed them into high -profile targets. So this is how the attacks played out that day. At 8 .46 a .m.,
Flight 11 hits the North Tower. 9 .03 a .m., Flight 175 hits the South Tower. 9 .37 a .m., Flight 77 hits the Pentagon. At 9 .59, South Tower collapses. At 10 .03 a .m., Flight 93 crashes in Pennsylvania. And then at 10 .28 a .m., North Tower collapses. And then at 5 .20 p .m., seven hours after North Tower collapses, World Trade Center Building 7 collapses. When all is said and done, an estimated 2 ,977 people lost their
lives in the attacks that day. It was a horrible tragedy and one we all saw play out in real time on live TV, which probably fucked up a lot of us seeing as I was in eighth grade watching it in my middle school science room. And I feel like that's not something small children should be watching, but we all experienced it and lived it. Yeah, I think it was one of those moments that was just like absolutely insane. I was in a... college theater class, like my freshman
year, I was trying to be an acting student. That didn't take off. My own mistake for going to Quincy College. Anyway, I didn't even know Quincy had a college to begin with. Yeah. U of Q. Great school. I was waiting for my buddy to come into class and he was late and he was late because of the attack. So I, of course, snuck out and went downstairs. And like most good classrooms, there was a bar directly underneath us. Oh, hell yeah, dude. And so I went into the bar at, you
know, whatever in the morning it was. And there's this like grizzled old fucked up dude sitting behind the bar drinking and watching it on TV. I went up and told the teacher and she let us out for the day. But the thing that's crazy is I had family in New York, so I couldn't get a hold of my aunt, obviously, because I didn't have a cell phone at this point. Yeah, and I'm sure most communications were all fucking jammed
up. Yeah, even more fucked up. My poor dad is working at the Coast Guard station out in Hull. Oh, so he wasn't in the Coast Guard, but he was building their station for them. And it's a secure facility in the whole nine yards. So they lock the gates and they're like, sorry, you're not leaving for a while. Yeah. And so my father is standing on like the observation deck of this base, watching the skyline of Boston with the commander of the post. And they literally just
waiting for something to happen. The boats are all scrambled. They're all out in Mass Bay. Absolute insanity. And then I, of course. again, living in Quincy right near Logan Airport, planes were always flying over my house. And it was the first time in my life I can remember not seeing one plane for like three days, except for fighter jets from Cape Cod. Yeah, they shut that shit down real quick. Air travel was suspended almost
immediately. Absolutely nuts. So in the 9 -11 commissions report, which it took them a while to do, but... The towers, they say that they collapsed due to a bunch of factors happening all at once. For starters, the plane severed several support columns and dislodged fireproofing on the steel structures. Now, the jet fuel mixed with office material, paper, wooden desks, carpet, all that shit, it ignited massive fires. The heat weakened the floor trusses, which caused
sagging and pulled in the exterior walls. Unable to support the weight of the upper floors, they collapsed downwards, creating a sort of domino effect known as progressive structural failure, a .k .a. a pancake collapse. That's why you see it kind of just going down floor by floor. As for Building 7's collapse, it was hit by debris from the North Tower collapsing, which started
multiple fires across multiple floors. And because of just the absolute carnage going on around it, firefighters couldn't extinguish the fires due to waterline damages that occurred. The fires got so hot that they weakened internal column number 79, triggering a cascading failure and eventually the collapse of the entire building. The 9 -11 Commission investigation report determined that no, this wasn't an inside job and there wasn't any concrete foreknowledge that this attack
was going to happen. They said that the attack was able to be carried out due to quote -unquote a failure of imagination as well as interagency dysfunction. Pretty much the FBI, the CIA, FAA, NORAD, none of them spoke to each other before any of this, especially about any concerns they may have had about potential attacks, because each agency wanted to be the one to fucking,
you know, solve it, I guess. And because of that, new security protocols were created, including the Patriot Act, the Department of Homeland Security was created right after this, and also enhanced TSA screenings. So, in a nutshell... The official story is that 9 -11 was a shockingly successful act of terrorism by a small, well -organized extremist group. There was no bombs, no missiles, no inside job, just bureaucratic failures, bad intel sharing, and a wildly simple plan that
exploited the U .S.'s peacetime systems. Funny story. Before you continue, a lack of imagination is also why the D .C. movies never take off. Really poorly written. I mean, I liked the first Superman. I think that was the only one that I really... The first one was good. And Suicide, the second Suicide Squad with James Cutton was pretty good. Yeah, that was pretty good. But yeah, so basically all those factors combined are what pretty much allowed 9 -11 to happen.
Or is that what they want us to think? That is what they want you to think. Okay. No. All right. So you're ready to dive into what some of these conspiracy nuts. Why they think this might have been an inside job. Please tell me what everyone's uncle talks about after they get drunk at Thanksgiving. One of the most popular arguments by conspiracy theorists that 9 -11 didn't happen as we have been told is the how and why the towers and Building
7 collapsed the way they did. They claim that both the towers and Building 7 were not brought down solely by the impact of the planes and the fires that followed, but instead they were subjected to controlled demolition using pre -planted explosives. Now, why do they think this? Well, proponents of this theory raise some pretty decent points on the matter, Sarge. First, there's the way
the buildings fell. The towers appear to fall straight down at almost near freefall speed, something you would typically see with controlled demolition. There are also reports of molten metal found in the debris, which suggests that there were temperatures higher than those achievable by jet fuel fires. Then there is the fact that witnesses, including firefighters and first responders, reported hearing explosions before and during
the collapse. Then a 2009 study done on some of the dust samples from the World Trade Center site claimed that they found nanothermite particles, suggesting the use of advanced explosives. Yeah, that's the right. Yeah. Quick question. Any of these folks who said that it was a controlled demolition? They were all structural engineers, right? Like they had gone to many years of educational training to come up with such a brilliant and insightful argument. Sure. Why not? Okay. Okay.
Maybe. Yeah. No, it sounds like these Mountain Dew aficionados are probably very highly educated MIT engineers. They usually are. It's the same way that the I Do My Own Research people hate vaccines. Lord knows Marjorie Taylor Greene is probably one of the leading minds of our generation. Then there's Building 7. People fucking love to bring up Building 7 when they talk about 9 -11 conspiracies. Now, it is kind of weird. Building 7, it did collapse seven hours after the initial
attack, and it was never hit by a plane. And only suffered from a few fires. It just happened to collapse in a way that some would argue. Just a few fires. Yeah, just a few fires. It collapsed the same way that some would argue is consistent with controlled demolition. Very suspicious, Sarge. Very suspicious. Yeah. If you spend most of your time drinking Mountain Dew. Yeah, then the. If your diet is mostly Taco Bell, then you would find this extremely suspicious. It's, you
know, it's suspicious. Okay. Mountain Dew. It's going to be a long night. Then we got the Pentagon. Now, the claim is that Flight 77 did not, in fact, crash into the Pentagon, but it was actually struck by a missile. Now, they believe this to be the case for a few different reasons. One, the impact hole on the Pentagon is relatively small for what would you expect to be left behind after a fucking Boeing 757 smashes into it. Then
there's also the lack of any debris. Eyewitnesses and first responders all reported minimal visible wreckage from Flight 77 at the crash. And it's this absence of like large aircraft parts like the wings and tail sections that suggest a massive Boeing 757 did not crash into the Pentagon. Another piece of evidence is how the quote unquote plane hit. hit the building. The aircraft that hit it is said to have performed a descending 270 degree turn at high speed descending to just
above ground level to strike the building. Something that a couple of dudes who took minimal flight lessons at a Florida flight school could never have pulled off. That's only because you haven't seen me attempt to use a flight simulator. That's true. There's also very limited There's also like a very limited amount of surveillance footage or any footage at all of the quote unquote plane
hitting the Pentagon. Only a few frames of security footage have ever been released and you don't really see much, which kind of gives off the appearance that they're withholding the footage because it contradicts with the official narrative. As a conspiracy theorist would say, that's not coming from me. Well, I'll say this. I know I'm being a smartass and I'm being super sarcastic, but I'll tell you. The only leg that the conspiracy theorists have to stand on are the Pentagon circumstances.
Like, it is kind of fucking crazy. Yeah. Like, if you just look at it and you uncritically just view the carnage that happened afterwards, like, yeah, of course. All of us had questions. Yeah. Everyone had questions about the Pentagon. It's very fucking weird looking. Yeah, because it's just a hole. Still don't believe it's a conspiracy theory. It's just a hole. Yeah, it's just a big butthole in the side of the Pentagon. And I didn't put this in there, but the section of the Pentagon
that the plane quote unquote hit. I'm just going to keep saying quote unquote plane because I think it's really funny. That's fine. It was the only section that had just been retrofitted
to withstand. a missile slash uh that's not good yeah it doesn't look great nope so i can see the pentagon is the only time where i'm like i can see where you might think this is weird exactly yeah i do agree with that um but here's the thing sarge there's a million more other different stupid conspiracy theories that are right going around but what but really like why would the u .s need to stage attack on its own Soil. Well, the same reason that America really
does anything. It's for profit. Naturally. Obviously. But in order to profit from an attack like this, you need the people to be for whatever it is you plan to profit from. Now, this is where the new Pearl Harbor hypothesis comes in. Some theorists think that factions within the U .S. government orchestrated the 9 -11 attacks to galvanize public support for military intervention abroad, similar to how... The attack on Pearl Harbor led to the
U .S. involvement in World War II. The evidence for this comes from a document titled Rebuilding America's Defenses by the Project for the New American Century that mentions the need for a quote -unquote catastrophic and catalyzing event like a new Pearl Harbor. And well... The attacks did provide us with a pretty good pretext for the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, which ended up benefiting a lot of defense contractors and
oil companies. And then with the rapid passing of the Patriot Act and the awarding of military contracts to companies like Halliburton, one could see this as evidence of financial motives for them to do this attack. Yeah, I don't actually refute any of that. I think there was a lot of shenanigans. with how contracts were awarded. Oh, for sure. The entire attack on Iraq, a war I fought in, by the way. Yeah. Kind of didn't make a ton of sense, even to me as I was there.
Yeah, because they had nothing to do with it, but we used 9 -11 as a pretext to go there. So it is a motive. Now, this is also not mentioning that there was some unusual... unusual stock market activities like put options on airlines and insurance companies before 9 -11. So some could argue that these financial moves indicated that certain individuals or companies had prior knowledge of the attacks and were looking to profit from them. There's also the claim that.
The U .S. intelligence agencies had prior knowledge of the attacks but failed to act or were prevented from acting, with the U .S. citing missed warnings from foreign governments and internal memos, like the bin Laden determined to strike U .S. briefing. They say that the lack of preventative measures indicates complicity in the attacks, which, I mean, that's here nor there. I feel like we don't act on a lot of things, and bin Laden was always trying to attack the U .S.,
so... He already did it. What was the 95? When was the first? I thought was it 98 or was it 95? It was during Clinton's term. They blew up the moving van. Yeah, it was the basement. Yeah, in the basement of the World Trade Center. Fun fact, the Condi Rice quote, Bin Laden determined to attack inside America is also in a ministry song. Ministry just fucking loves. They love conspiracy theories. Al Jorgensen is one of my favorite musicians of all time, but he has a
lot of fun theories. Theorists also suggest that with how quickly the debris was moved from all the crash sites and destroyed and or shipped off, that they were trying to hide and or destroy any evidence of the government's crimes against its own peoples. Now, all of these... There's so much more that I didn't even touch on. The fact that the US and NORAD were also conducting, they were doing like war games on 9 -11 that pretty much almost kind of played out the same
way as 9 -11, which is pretty crazy. But it also caused a lot of confusion when the actual attacks were happening. Now, some people think that was deliberate. I don't know, but it is kind of crazy that they were doing war games that were basically
9 -11 on 9 -11. during that's unfortunate yeah not fortunate decision but also that kind of calls into question the fucking lack of imagination they imagined it it just happened to be on the day that it actually happened which you would think that they would want to do it a little bit sooner than that um but yeah and there's a whole bunch of other little shit like that that um you know we didn't cover so you want to like kind of go over some of these claims
and see why they're kind of stupid I mean, we're doing it throughout it, but all right. So first is the controlled demolition of the twin towers in the World Trade Center. Again, the claim is that the World Trade Center buildings were brought down by pre -planted explosives in a controlled demolition. Well, that's not really how it happens.
Yeah. Now, the National Institute of Standards and Technology concluded that the collapse of the Twin Towers were due to the impact of the hijacked planes that severed critical columns and dislodged fireproofing. Combined with the ensuing fires, this weakened the remaining structure
and caused it to collapse. As far as World Trade Center 7, what they found out is that the fires ignited by debris from the collapse of the nearby towers led to the failure of a critical column, column number 79, resulting in the building's collapse. They found no evidence of explosives, and that's that. They just fucking collapsed, man. Well, I mean, when you think about it, I'm sure a ton of debris hit Building 7. Oh, yeah.
But also you have to think of the amount of seismic activity that would happen when an entire, when two entire hundred floor buildings collapse. Yeah. Like when you're a tiny building right next door, of course you're going to fucking crumble too eventually. And there were fires on that building as well. Yeah, it was. The tower's collapsing to me. There was always a weird one. It's like, that's just what happens. Yeah, did they fall kind of neat? Yeah, sure. But like,
what is neat for a building? So it's interesting that you mentioned this because I looked something up. So when you said they fell kind of straight down, I remember hearing a story about a department store that collapsed in South Korea. It's called the Supong or the Supong department store. And they had air conditioners on the roof that they had moved from one side to the other because people in the neighborhood were complaining. Poorly built mall, to be fair, to the 9 -11 conspiracy
theorists. But the vibrations from the air conditioners actually caused the south part of the department store to pancake crumble. Much like 9 -11, when you think about it, the whole reason those buildings pancaked is because the planes flew in, they weakened the structural integrity of the floors they had blown through, and then the weight of
the top just kept falling. The building was designed to hold some of that weight, but not like... smacking down on top of it yeah it's basically like i said it was the domino effect like it's just like one floor hit another floor hit another floor hit another floor and the reason why you were seeing because if you ever see footage of the the towers collapsing like below where the actual collapse is happening you'll see like puffs of smoke coming out of the building that's
floors from above hitting the floor below it as like the whole structure like it's and blowing out yeah they weren't detonation charges or anything like that first of all because you wouldn't you wouldn't see those on the outside of the building the structure most of the structural shit is on the inside like you wouldn't see it puff out but that's you know they're all fucking stupid but yeah so investigators found no physical evidence of explosives or incendiary devices in the debris
like the nanophosphate wherever the fuck it was now Let's move on to the Pentagon. Now, again, the theory is that the Pentagon was not struck by American Airlines Flight 77, but by a missile or maybe even possibly like a drone strike. Here's the thing, though. Numerous eyewitnesses reported seeing a commercial airliner approach and crash into the Pentagon. It's been a pretty major city. People are going to fucking see that shit. They're going to hear it, too. And as far as they saying
that there's no debris, well... Wreckage from Flight 77, including landing gear, engines, like all of those were recovered from the crash site pretty early on. They were just going to leave that shit there. Yeah. You know what I mean? The FAA has to reconstruct the planes to find out why they broke. Yeah. And also the fact that they found flight data records and the cockpit voice recorders, like they found the black boxes and all of it was consistent with Flight 77's
trajectory and impact. Um, as far as government foreknowledge and inside job allegations, like wait, before we continue on, I just got, I got one thing to say about the plane hitting and the fact that, you know, you didn't see the wings or anything. Planes are made of fucking hopes and dreams. Yeah. They make planes out of fucking aluminum. It has to be the lightest thing possible in order for it to stay aloft. Yeah. So when
a plane. crashes into the ground it disintegrates it fucking falls apart because it's made out of nothing aluminum like the aluminum on a plane is wildly thin yeah it's it's basically disintegrates into a giant concrete fucking military installation you're not going to have much left the wings are always like the first thing to come off a plane when it crashes Yeah, like you wouldn't see like, like people were expecting because
they guess that you see a plane shaped. Yeah, that's what they were saying is that so you got the hole where like the fuselage hit obviously, but the wings are it's not going to be like when Wile E. Coyote runs through a wall. It's not going to be a perfect imprint of anything like exactly. You saw it in the Twin Towers when the planes hit because that's glass. It's obviously good. Of course, you know what I mean? Like you're
not going to see it in a reinforced. military highly secure military building that again was reinforced to withstand something like this like it's not exactly the there's the wings of a plane do not have the same structural integrity as a military building let's just put it that way also don't forget this plane had just taken off and it was full of jet fuel which is wildly explosive now you're going to smash that into a building one thing i didn't mention that but i'm sure
everyone already knew is that all these attacks happened on the east coast all the planes came from the east coast they were going all the way to the west coast so they were fully fueled up with yeah thousands of gallons of jet fuel as soon as they it was all by design yeah now as far as the whole like insider knowledge like the government for knowledge and inside job allegations uh well there were indications of potential terrorist threats but the intelligence was not specific
enough to predict the exact nature timing or targets of the attacks but we also you know i mean like but we get fucking imminent attack warnings probably daily with little to zero information so for them to see like oh a potential terrorist threat if you what are you gonna do you have to investigate it and if they didn't have time enough time it's just Sometimes shit happens. It falls through the cracks. It's not like they
didn't try. If you want to watch a really good documentary, the new Osama bin Laden documentary on Netflix is really good where they actually go through all this. They knew something was going to happen. They knew it was probably going to involve New York, maybe even planes, but so much details were left out and scattered that there was no way for them to predict this shit was going to happen because this is an insane fucking plan. The 9 -11 Commission found no evidence
that the U .S. government or senior officials had foreknowledge of the attacks or were involved in the planning of it. Also, yeah, no, keep going. Yeah, but also it's just like the complexity of a conspiracy theory like this. You know what I mean? Like the scale and secrecy required for such an operation would have involved numerous individuals increasing the likelihood of leaks or whistleblowers. None that have ever like credibly
emerged. You know what I mean? Like he probably got the mathematical equation that some scientists, I think at Oxford university came up with in England. And essentially the more people you add to a conspiracy theory, the less possible it is to keep that a secret. So like even adding maybe five people to a conspiracy theory exponentially increases the likelihood that someone is going
to tell someone else. Yeah. Like the scale. that this would have to be at not even just this one any conspiracy like fucking like with like sandy hooker the boss obama with like fucking crisis actors and all that shit like you're telling me that like that person's gonna be on tv talking about their experience and no like someone from fucking wisconsin's be like hey that's fucking steve that's not this guy's name i knew him from high you mean like You can't have something so.
Not to mention the fact you're expecting an actor not to put something like that on their resume. Fuck you. It's going to be on their IMDB page. Yeah. Well, yeah. Like if you think about any of these conspiracies for longer than five seconds and not even about like the actual, like the, the, just the complexity of a conspiracy theory like this or any other, like there's, it's not possible. There's so many factors involved that you just can't. You're out of your mind. Yeah.
Wildly out of your mind. As far as the insider trading and financial anomalies that we talked about, the stock market, the Securities and Exchange Commission and other regulatory agencies, they did conduct their own investigations and found that no evidence of insider trading was related to the 9 -11 attacks. Some of the trading patterns were consistent with normal market behavior and not necessarily indicative of foreknowledge of
an attack. And then as far as like the suppression of evidence and lack of transparency, the reason why the debris was removed so quickly was mostly for like rescue. efforts and recovery operations. Like you can't just leave a bunch of building on top of someone and expect to find them alive days later. You got to get that shit out of there. Well, they also probably kind of want to know what the fuck happened. Yeah. So they got to recover the flight data and all that shit. Yeah.
So materials were documented and analyzed by investigators during the process at all the, all the sites, ground zero plus the Pentagon, Pennsylvania, everything. And then as far as like the limited, release of footage, particularly from the Pentagon that was due to security concerns. It's a fucking highly classified. You can just fucking, there's not a lot of cameras just pointed at it. You know what I mean? Weirdly a big deal
for the government. However, available footage and eyewitness accounts corroborate the official story. Now, I mean, you know what guys come here, come here. I like to think I'm a relatively intelligent human being. Yeah. And when I hear a conspiracy theory, I get a little excited. I'm like, oh, I know something that other people don't know. And I hear the evidence and I'm like, that makes a lot of sense. That's really brilliant. But then I remember I brought some food in from grocery
shopping and I had some ice cream. And I had placed the ice cream on the counter in my kitchen and I had placed my keys in the freezer. And that made me. realize that I'm a fucking moron. Most of us are fucking morons. So, if you didn't go to college and get this degree in this specific thing, or you didn't spend the better part of your life studying structural engineering, airplane mechanics, physics, or literally anything, you're
an idiot. In this situation, no matter how smart you think you are, if you don't actually have any kind of education, including like just going to the right library and reading about this stuff. You know, like, shut the fuck up. You're dumb and you don't know what you're talking about. Why would the United States government crash a plane into the World Trade Center towers like planes? Excuse me. And then into the Pentagon
and into a field in Pennsylvania. Don't you think the 3 ,000 people who died in the World Trade Centers were enough? And why would they suspiciously crash one into the Pentagon and leave just a hole and not a plane -shaped hole so that you smooth brains out there can be like, whoa, it's shaped like an airplane. Must have been an airplane. You know what I mean? So just like think for like four seconds. What's the benefit of this?
Do you really think it would make a lot of sense to crash two extra planes after you've already brought down the two most recognizable buildings in the United States? You fucking morons. Okay. Sorry, I'm done. Sarge, it was for financial... Yeah, yeah. I'm sure that all the money they got from that was worth the 20 fucking years of war we went into because of it. Yeah. Look at Black Rock. Is that a thing? Black Rock's a thing, right? They make tons of money, I think,
right? My whole theory on this is there were shenanigans, but it was all just typical rich people bullshit. Yeah, but the shenanigans happened.
post after the attacks yes obviously all opportunistic one of the big things that i kept hearing about bin laden did have family in the united states yes and they did fly bin laden's family out of the united states really fast well here's the thing about bin laden so he comes from a very rich family but he's the only one in his family that turned into a radical fucking crazy Everyone else is pretty fucking normal doing their normal everyday shit. That apple fell way far down from
the tree. Like, that tree was on a cliff. Yeah. And the apple fell all the way down into the valley. It didn't just fall where the tree was. He's a fucking loony tune. Yeah, so the fact that the Bin Ladens were immediately escorted out of the country right after that makes way sense. That's not suspicious to me at all. In fact, I'm guaranteeing some of our listeners have a moron relative. And if their moron relative did something stupid, they're not going to be
like, good for you. Smart move. You're going to be like, fly me the fuck out of this country so that this doesn't blow back on me. Exactly. So in conclusion. Extensive investigations by independent experts, government agencies, and scientific organizations have addressed and refuted the major conspiracy theories surrounding the
9 -11 attacks. The consensus among these investigations supports the conclusion that the attacks were carried out by Al -Qaeda terrorists with no credible evidence supporting claims of controlled demolitions, missile strikes, or government complicity. So there you have it, Sarge. That is 9 -11 conspiracy and 9 -11 debunked. All within the hour. I mean, we probably could have gone further into it, but I feel like if you have any sort of critical thinking skills, I think this is enough for you.
But you know, there's going to be people out there that are like, well, you didn't consider this. Here's the thing though. I did. And you're wrong. So I do have a, I do have like a weird, when, when did the first plane crash? What time was it? So the first plane hit a flight 11 hit the North tower at 8 46 AM. Okay. So I had a
pocket watch because I am a fucking nerd. And I was on the red line going to school at U of Q, Quincy College, the finest educational facility aside from the two high schools, four middle schools, and eight elementary schools in Quincy,
Massachusetts. And my pocket watch stopped. at 8 45 in the morning so that's a thing that that happened to me and and if that happened why it had to be a conspiracy yeah i mean you see how stupid these things sound when you say them out loud well no here's the thing so the globalists uh controlled control stopped my control time and they were trying to give you foreknowledge
of the attack. I mean, it was only by a minute, but you could have done a lot of damage to Wall Street in that one minute if you just started fucking buying and selling. In my defense, I was smoking a lot of weed at the time, and so I did for a moment think to myself, it was like a couple of days, I was like, dude, look at this. It's up to 8 .45, and everybody's like, didn't it happen at like 9 a .m.? Your watch. Is the
reason why 9 -11 happened. If it had kept going, Butterfly Effect, what if your watch hadn't have stopped? Could have been different. Everything could have been different. That's a really good call. Is that a good call? Someone call Ashton Kutcher. We're making Butterfly Effect 2. See if Ethan Supley is available. He's all jacked now. It's going to be a very different movie. All right. Sorry. So any last thoughts, questions, concerns? I mean, there's a lot. 9 -11 was not
an inside job. And if you still believe that in this day and age, maybe don't breed. So here's the thing, too, is that so there's a really famous 9 -11 conspiracy documentary called Loose Change.
I don't know if you're familiar with it. I am because they had to make a second one after all of the evidence they presented in the first one got refuted yeah well here's the thing they also made a third and a fourth because oh no I didn't know they made yeah they made a few iterations of that movie and the reason why is because desperate the reason why is because like you said all of it just keeps keeps getting refuted and not just like questionable for conspiracy like it was
to the point where even conspiracy theorists had to be like We can't argue this anymore. Like we're going to look too insane. Yeah. So there you have it, everyone. That is a, that's a, our first episode of debunked in the series that we'll, we'll do some more of these periodically. Probably, like I said, probably more for like the more serious conspiracy theories. Cause we don't, we don't need to break down fucking. I don't know, the Pendragon plot. That's just goofy
shit. That's just more fun to make fun of. But I feel like sometimes these kind of hurt people. Yeah, they really do. But there you have it, Sarge. 9 -11. This was great. This was a great episode. I'm on the internet in different places. I'm starting to make Tik TOK videos again. You can find me at Saj the destroyer on pretty much all the socials. Uh, I'm even on Facebook, even though I don't want to be, um, and I, yeah, I, I just started a Facebook a long time ago and
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You can burn down the X agency headquarters in Minecraft. It's funny to me because I know a guy who was in, I don't think he's in there anymore, but we were in the army together. It's, it's not his fault. Yeah. I'm probably going to edit out the burning down a building part, but I mean,
if you want, you know, you should bleep it. be way better if you just bleep it i'll see what i can do no context uh all right um and if you want to follow us on instagram it's uh at cryptic cocktail follow us at tiktok cryptic cocktail party leave us a five -star rating and review uh and also if you have if you are one of these 9 -11 truthers and you think that we're full of shit please send me an email at cryptic cocktail
at gmail .com telling me my fucking and then i will um read it on the show to show how stupid you are. Yeah, you are an idiot if you believe that it was a conspiracy. So we will make fun of you. Yeah, for sure. For sure. It'll be like a thing I do for a couple of weeks. But I think with that out of the way, that was a fun episode. There's so much more we could have covered, but I feel like we hit all the important ones. We could have gotten pretty far into the weeds,
so I'm kind of glad we didn't go too far. We stopped there. All right. But out of the way, sorry, do you want to say goodbye and a little bit to the audience? Audience, goodbye, and I love you.