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Code Switch

What's CODE SWITCH? It's the fearless conversations about race that you've been waiting for. Hosted by journalists of color, our podcast tackles the subject of race with empathy and humor. We explore how race affects every part of society — from politics and pop culture to history, food and everything in between. This podcast makes all of us part of the conversation — because we're all part of the story. Code Switch was named Apple Podcasts' first-ever Show of the Year in 2020.

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Episodes

The Kid Mero Talks 'What It Means To Be Latino'

We've said it multiple times on the show: Latinos are the second largest demographic in the United States. But...what does that actually mean? Are Latinos a race? Ethnicity? Culture? We try (and fail) to answer some of these questions with Dominican American podcaster and entertainer the Kid Mero. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy...

May 12, 202132 min

Show Me The Money

Two friends living in Vermont decided to try a radical experiment: They asked White people in their community to give money directly to their Black neighbors — a DIY, hyper-local "reparations" program, of sorts. Our friends at the Invisibilia podcast took a look at how the community reacted, for better and for worse. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy...

May 05, 202135 min

Live From Philly*: A Code Switch Jawn

OK, so we weren't really in Philly (it's still a pandemic, after all.) But we did talk all things race and Philadelphia with special guests Erika Alexander and Denice Frohman. On the docket for the night: reparations, basketball, poetry and of course, the word "jawn." Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy...

Apr 28, 202127 min

A Utopia For Black Capitalism

Floyd McKissick, one of the major leaders of the civil rights movement, had an audacious, lifelong dream. He wanted to build a city — from scratch — that would create economic opportunities for Black people and be sustained by the wealth they created. It was called Soul City. And although it's been largely forgotten, he almost pulled it off. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy...

Apr 21, 202131 min

Do The Golden Arches Bend Toward Justice?

Calls for racial justice are met with a lot of different proposals, but one of the loudest and most enduring is to invest in Black businesses. But can "buying Black" actually do anything to mitigate racism? To find out, we're taking a look at the surprising link between Black capitalism and McDonald's. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy...

Apr 14, 202131 min

Spit A Verse, Drop Some Knowledge

We've spent the past year trying to analyze, dissect and intellectualize all the ways that our world has changed. But sometimes the best way to understand our circumstances isn't through data and reports — it's through art and poetry. So this week, we're hearing from some of the country's most critical observers: poets. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy...

Apr 07, 202124 min

Why Are We Here?

Filipinos make up a small fraction of the nurses in the United States, but almost a third of the nurses who have died of COVID-19 in the U.S. have been of Filipino descent. So what exactly is going on? Our friends over at The Atlantic and WNYC tried to understand more about this troubling statistic by telling the story of one woman: Rosary Castro-Olega. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy...

Mar 31, 202133 min

Screams And Silence

Asian American organizers and influencers have been trying to sound the alarm over a dramatic spike in reports of anti-Asian racism over the last year, and have been frustrated by the lack of media and public attention paid to their worries. Then came last week, when a deadly shooting spree in Georgia realized many of their worst fears and thrust the issue into the national spotlight. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy...

Mar 24, 202133 min

Lonnie Bunch And The 'Museum Of No'

The Blacksonian — er, the National Museum of African American History and Culture — was years and years in the making. It's closed down because of the coronavirus, but we got a virtual tour from the man who devoted his life to giving it life. He's also the first Black leader of the entire Smithsonian Institution. Baller status. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy...

Mar 17, 202132 min

Saving A Language You're Learning To Speak

Every two weeks, a language dies with its last speaker. That was almost the fate of the Hawaiian language — until a group of young people decided to create a strong community of Hawaiian speakers — as they were learning to speak it them themselves. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy

Mar 10, 202134 min

David (Pronounced dah-VEED) Versus Goliath

Summer, 2004. The Olympics in Athens. The event? Men's basketball: U.S. versus Puerto Rico. And the whole world knows that Puerto Rico doesn't stand a chance. After all, the bigger, richer, imperial power always wins — right? Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy

Mar 03, 202141 min

'Payback's A B****'

We're ending Black history month where we started it...talking about reparations. On this episode, we're joined by Erika Alexander and Whitney Dow, who have spent the past two years exploring how reparations could transform the United States — and all the struggles and possibilities that go along with that. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy...

Feb 26, 202129 min

A Shot In The Dark

As the rollout of coronavirus vaccines unfolds, one big challenge for public health officials has been the skepticism many Black people have toward the vaccine. One notorious medical study — the Tuskegee experiment — has been cited as a reason. But should it be? Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy

Feb 24, 202126 min

Becoming 'Black Moses'

Marcus Garvey was an immigrant, a firebrand, a businessman. He was viewed with deep suspicion by the civil rights establishment. He would also become one of the most famous and powerful Black visionaries of the 20th century. Our play-cousins at NPR's Throughline podcast went deep on how he became the towering (and often misunderstood) figure that he is. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy...

Feb 17, 20211 hr 4 min

Black Kiss-tory

Too often, Black history is portrayed as a story of struggle and suffering, completely devoid of joy. So we called up some romance novelists whose work focuses on Black history. They told us that no matter how hard the times, there has always been room for love. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy

Feb 10, 202127 min

Who's 'Black Enough' For Reparations?

Black History Month is here, which means we're diving into big, sticky questions about what exactly it means to be Black. So this week on the show: Who is 'Black enough' for reparations? Because you know...we got some bills to pay. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy

Feb 03, 202137 min

Stepping Out Of The Shadow Of 'Killer King'

For decades, residents of Compton and Watts in South Los Angeles had to rely on one particularly troubled hospital for their medical care. A new state-of-the-art hospital replaced it, but faced many of the same challenges: too few beds, too many patients who need serious help, not enough money. Then came the coronavirus. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy...

Jan 27, 202120 min

The Last Four Years

The Trump administration is coming to a close, but which elements of the Trump era are here to stay? We spoke to NPR's White House reporter, Ayesha Rascoe, about where we were when Donald Trump took office — and what he's left behind. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy

Jan 20, 202130 min

From The Fringe To The Capitol

Like all of you, we are still trying to make sense of Wednesday, January 6, 2021. Because even after the past four years, there are still new iterations of WTF. So on this episode, we're talking police, "terrorism", and the symbols of white nationalism that made it to the floor of the Capitol. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy...

Jan 13, 202131 min

Finding 'A Perfect Match'

Two close friends both suffered from the same aggressive form of cancer. After years of treatment, one lived and the other died. And while many variables factored into what happened, the woman who survived — reporter Ibby Caputo — couldn't help wondering what role race had played in the outcome. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy...

Jan 06, 202130 min

The Fire Still Burning

If 2020 has taught us anything, it's that history informs every aspect of our present. So today we're bringing you an episode of NPR's history podcast, Throughline. It gets into some of the most urgent lessons we can learn from James Baldwin, whose life and writing illuminate so much about what it would really mean for the United States to reckon with its race problem. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy...

Dec 30, 202046 min

From Generation To Generation

This month on Code Switch, we're thinking a lot about family and history. So we wanted to bring you this special episode from our friends at NPR's It's Been A Minute podcast, where producer Andrea Gutierrez tells the story of how her father was involved in the Chicano Moratorium of 1970 — and what that taught her and her sister about their identities. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy...

Dec 28, 202016 min

Family Stories, Family Lies

December is a month when a lot of people are thinking about family and tradition. Reliving memories. Retelling old stories. Each year, those stories get passed down — sometimes with new details, or a different twist. And eventually, many of those stories have nothing to do with what actually happened. This week, we're looking into one such story: the truth, and the lies of it. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy...

Dec 23, 202040 min

Black And Up In Arms

Guns. They're as American as apple pie. They represent independence and self-reliance. But ... not so much if you're Black. On this episode, we're getting into the complicated history of Black gun ownership and what it has to tell us about our present moment. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy

Dec 16, 202048 min

The Books That Got Away

Listen, a lot has happened this year, and it's no shock that some things may have slipped under the radar. So our resident book expert, Karen Grigsby Bates, took a virtual trip around the country to talk to independent book store owners about their favorite underappreciated reads of 2020. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy...

Dec 13, 202021 min

Stepping Back Inside Carmen Maria Machado's 'Dream House'

It's no secret that Code Switch is a team full of book nerds. So this week, we're revisiting one of our favorite book conversations, with author Carmen Maria Machado. Her genre-defying memoir, In the Dream House, tells the story of how she survived intimate partner violence, despite having few models of how to deal with, or even recognize abusive dynamics in queer relationships. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy...

Dec 09, 202036 min

Words Of Advice

Let's face it — we could all use some help right now. So today on the pod, we're looking at a few of our favorite questions about race and identity from our "Ask Code Switch" series. We're getting into food, relationships, money, language, friendship and more, so you know it's about to get a little messy (in the best way.) Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy...

Dec 01, 202056 min

Thank You, Next

It's Thanksgiving week, and like basically everything else about 2020, this holiday is on track to be...let's call it "different." But while the world has changed in innumerable ways this year, one thing that hasn't changed is that the country is still deeply politically divided. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy...

Nov 25, 202028 min

The White Elephants In The Room

One of the biggest storylines from the 2020 presidential race has ... well, race at the center of it. If you paid attention to the stories about exit polling, you heard a lot of talk about how Latinx and Black voters showed up in bigger numbers this year than back in 2016. But on this week's episode, we also focus on a conversation that's not happening: The one about a group whose support for Donald Trump hasn't wavered. We're talking about the white vote, and in particular, white evangelical vo...

Nov 19, 202037 min

Claim Us If You're Famous

Kamala Harris is the vice president-elect, which marks an impressive list of firsts: woman in the White House; Black woman in the White House, Asian American in the White House; etc. Her Indian heritage has gotten much less attention than her Black identity, and in many ways, it has been complicated by her Black identity. On this episode, we look at what Harris's identities can tell us about dual-minority POCs, South Asian political representation in the U.S., and what it all means at the voting...

Nov 11, 202035 min