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ChiefsClash

Welcome to ChiefsClash! An iGaming podcast where we bring together top industry leaders, the “Chiefs” — for bold, unfiltered conversations that go beyond the usual. Hosted by Shahar Attias, a CRM virtuoso with 20+ years of digital marketing expertise, ChiefsClash uncovers the real stories behind the metrics. From game-changing product launches and emerging markets to VIP strategies, loyalty programs, KPIs that matter, and the ever-evolving world of compliance — nothing is off-limits.
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Episodes

ChiefsClash | Vacation, JUN 2025

This ChiefsClash episode has a very fun theme, it is dedicated to Vacation. We gathered three amazing panelists to ask them how they manage balancing work and vacation. Our guests are Amnom Liebermann, the Head of Distribution Channels at Elantil, Victoria Glukhovetska, the CEO and Creative Director of Vialex Motion Lab and the Founder and CEO of Elevated Edge Consulting - Martina Åkerlund. As always, the podcast is hosted by Shahar Attias, CEO of Hybrid Interaction: the leading iGaming-first CR...

Jun 28, 202553 min

ChiefsClash | NEXT Valletta, MAY 2025

As part of the Valletta conference by NEXT.io, the May 2025 episode of ChiefsClash was hosted on stage for the first time. The guests were former panelists Sasha Boerma, Cedomir Tomic and Valentina Diaco. As always, the podcast is hosted by Shahar Attias, CEO of Hybrid Interaction: the leading iGaming-first CRM & Gamification consulting agency.

May 24, 202521 min

ChiefsClash | Affiliate Party, APR 2025

In the new episode of ChiefsClash, we have 3 beautiful industry leaders from the Affiliate sector. Our guests are Brendon Spiteri, the Head of Partnerships at AffiliationSpace, Clemence Dujardin, Group CEO of MyAffiliates and Head of Commercials at Affpapa, Yeva Avagyan. As always, the podcast is hosted by Shahar Attias, CEO of Hybrid Interaction: the leading iGaming-first CRM & Gamification consulting agency.

Apr 26, 202556 min

ChiefsClash | Women's Month, MAR 2025

As we are in still in the “Women's History Month”, we decided to dedicate an episode specifically to women and their experience in the gambling sector. We let ourselves violate the rule and interview our previous beautiful guests once again: Marija Hammon, Claire Adamou, Valentina Diaco, Ann-Kathrin Baumgardt, Nadiya Attard, Liga Tarasova, Jenny Ramstedt, Daisy White and Catie Di Stefano.

Mar 30, 202513 min

ChiefsClash | Chiefs Outlook, FEB 2025

In this ChiefsClash episode we have exceptionally important industry leaders: Yanina Kaplya / CMO @ NuxGame, Glenn Debattista / COO @ Betstarters, and Paul Puolakka / CMO @ Mr Gamble. As always, the podcast is hosted by Shahar Attias, CEO of Hybrid Interaction: the leading iGaming-first CRM & Gamification consulting agency.

Feb 21, 202545 min

ChiefsClash | ICE Barcelona, JAN 2025

ChiefsClash takes a different turn: this time we are interviewing industry leaders in their natural habitats- exhibiting at their booths at ICE Barcelona. We have Ollie Castleman - Managing Director at Hub88, Sarafina Wolde Gabriel - CEO of Rightlander, CEO of BGaming - Marina Ostrovtsova, CEO of EvenBet Gaming - Dmitry Starostenkov and Ai Ishii, Regional Sales Director at Continent 8. As always, the podcast is hosted by Shahar Attias, CEO of Hybrid Interaction: the leading iGaming-first CRM &am...

Jan 24, 202514 min

ChiefsClash | 2024 Recap, DEC 2024

As 2024 comes to an end, we decided to do a yearly recap together. In this ChiefsClash episode we gathered Dmitry Belianin, the Founder and CEO of Belianin, as well as Marija Hammon, the Marketing Director at Relax Gaming and Ruzanna Elchyan, the Head of Gaming at BetConstruct. As always, the podcast is hosted by Shahar Attias, CEO of Hybrid Interaction: the leading iGaming-first CRM & Gamification consulting agency.

Dec 29, 202442 min

ChiefsClash | 2 Year Anniversary, NOV 2024

ChiefsClash is two years old! For this occasion we gathered the experts that we had in our very first episode: Nico Jansen, an entrepreneur, speaker and investor, Līga Tarasova, account director at a PR and marketing startup and Tal Zamstein, the CPO of KingsBet Holding. As always, the podcast is hosted by Shahar Attias, CEO of Hybrid Interaction: the leading iGaming-first CRM & Gamification consulting agency.

Nov 23, 202439 min

HI Archives | CRM in Brazil: 5 Tips For The Holiday Season

Are you an operator in LATAM? Then you're going to love our 5 key takeaways on how to run localized Gaming promotions during the holiday season in Brazil, based on the insights and experience we've gathered from Hybrid Interaction's local CRM experts!

Oct 27, 202419 min

HI Archives | Maximizing affiliate earnings

This interview is about a topic that many affiliates should pay close attention to, the importance of player values, player lifetimes and retention. Shahar discusses how all of these things can impact your earnings, and ultimately your success, as an iGaming affiliate.

Oct 25, 202411 min

HI Archives | 7 Tips for Key CRM Metrics

What is it that we Player Development people do? The quick answer would be: we analyze stuff. As we all know, Retention Marketing is based on the assumption that as a service provider, we can increase the engagement levels of our customers by tweaking our offering in such a way that it can, at least, be perceived as more attractive to them. We learn from the past and the environment, and try to apply our findings through promotional campaigns. Now, how NOT boring and sexy does that sound?? I kno...

Oct 25, 202418 min

HI Archives | Bonus Costs: Are You Losing Money?

This post focuses on online casino promotional ROI analysis. Everybody else: behave yourself! One of the most significant tools used by Loyalty Managers to increase their turnover (handle, bet, you name it) is bonus offering. Yes, I am brilliant, how is it that you have never thought about it yourself, etc. Anyway, by providing a promotional bonus to your players, you offer them the option to lengthen their game play entertainment “on the house”.

Oct 25, 202413 min

HI Archives | Chairman’s Summary Notes

Captain’s Log, Stardate 3.14159: The London conferences were absolutely amazing. The participants reminded me of young kids during a sugar rush attack, just running around, trying to make the right contacts and gain competitive advantage, with all means are justified (and yes Thomas, you were there alright, but you somehow wore that body paint in a slightly less tactful manner … oh, the humanity!)....

Oct 25, 202423 min

HI Archives | Being popular is great. But is it costing you money?

We all like to be liked. So when you see your loyalty program is drawing more players to your games, you may break out in a big smile. But if you’d look a little more closely at the numbers, that smile might turn to a frown. And the frown might turn into a yell: “Stop the loyalty program! Stop it now!” Sometimes operators get a little too sure of themselves, convinced that they’ve got the edge over the players. See, for example, Tropicana vs. Don Johnson.

Oct 25, 202416 min

HI Archives | Player Clubs Review

Judging from the recent posts, you’d probably conclude that this blog’s focus is limited to Alcohol, Hot Girls, Dublin and how easy it is to get a senior iGaming position if you have an experience as a taxi driver and your name is Thomas. Sadly, we have to expand our discussion so that when your boss asks “Well, what the hell do you intend to do in order to improve our profits during this miserable Q3?” you top-level executives actually have an answer.

Oct 25, 202427 min

HI Archives | Beyond Sesame Street

As I opened the annual CRM & Retention Seminar I moderated during the last iCE conference in London, I quoted a fantastic online article that linked CRM to the thoughtfulness demonstrated by the grocer on Sesame Street, Mr. Hooper: “Mr Hooper paid attention to customer behavior even beyond their purchases to know how to adjust his stock,” the article said. “Would he have had birdseed milkshakes on the menu had he not listened to Big Bird? Certainly not.”

Oct 25, 202414 min

HI Archives | Online vs. Offline Casino Management: Key Differences

While there are many similarities between running a bricks-and-mortar casino and running an online casino, there are some important distinctions. I will detail those in this article, along with some of the major KPIs (Key Performance Indicators) you’ll need to track if you’re charged with managing the promotional/player development activities of an online customer base. And I’ll conclude with a case study of how a major European casino migrated its “whales” from its bricks-and-mortar operation t...

Oct 25, 202416 min

HI Archives | One big whale or a school of little fish?

Which would you prefer? An extra €200 in monthly revenue from one player or an extra €10 in monthly revenue from 20 players? (Note to Thomas: stop scratching your head… they are the same thing!) Loyalty expert Paul Hebert recently published a very interesting article that tries to answer this question, and we’ll translate his text into online casino lingo for you. It’s not that we don’t trust you to comprehend such long texts on your own. It’s that we simply don’t trust you at all.

Oct 25, 202416 min

HI Archives | Get your players to YES!

The purpose of this blog is to assist iGaming CRMers, wherever you may be. To do so, we provide you with naughty photos from industry conferences, laugh at Thomas for his poor fighting abilities (or lack of any kind of abilities in this case), review your boring promos and mock acquisition people on your behalf (no need for a link here – pretty much any post would do).

Oct 25, 20248 min

HI Archives | How Predictive Analytics Can Make You More Money

Feel like you are “sinking” with data that doesn’t really makes sense? Last week we have talked about Customer Analytics in Online Gaming, and this time we bring you a guest post by Ilana Jucha of stat-market.com, who is an expert in making the most out of customers’ databases (unlike Thomas, who simply uses a moisturizer cream IN FRONT of customers… and not in a decent manner):

Oct 25, 202426 min

HI Archives | Understanding the lure of the “can’t-lose” system

After reading this post and its related article, please watch this clip (below). It is very much geared towards beginners, but it smartly says: if you wish to win at Roulette – you should pile some luck, as there is no system for it, and being smart doesn’t really help :)

Oct 25, 202412 min

HI Archives | Loyalty Programs KPIs

Summer is here. And for iGaming businesses it means that the declining seasonality effect has already starting to kick in. It also means that you can definitely expect to see less and less people attending the office every day, due to all sorts of excuses.

Oct 25, 202417 min

HI Archives | On Slot Machines and Sound Effects

Have you ever tried playing a slot machine in one of the online casinos when your computer sound is on mute? Have a go – it’s a surreal feeling, as suddenly the same game you know is less appealing. Unlike one of those common days in which Thomas is on vacation, you sense that something important is missing.

Oct 25, 202413 min

HI Archives | Your Ideal iGaming Platform

You grew up with your betting system, and like an old pair of jeans, it’s gotten to a point where it’s become so comfortable – you just can’t imagine how another one can fit as perfectly. The beige interface, same reports with the good-old missing fields, list of KPIs nobody has ever used – it’s part of you, and the stuff your corporate culture is made of… pure nostalgia. And hey, you got yourself a pretty decent business going on without those crisp graphs anyway, right?

Oct 25, 202416 min

HI Archives | Top 3 KPIs for Effective iGaming Call Center Management

Written by Lena Benel, this podcast tells about managing an effective call center and the process of definition of KPIs. Often, call centers in their early stages adopt a narrow perspective, which serves as a spotlight on the success of the operations according to a basic measurement and nothing further. However, a proper combination of metrics can clearly present the processes that are taking place, operational wellness and quality achievements. The selection of the metrics must come from the u...

Oct 24, 202424 min

HI Archives | A new problem for CRM

Suppliers have consistently advanced the online gaming industry, but one of the latest developments has been to the detriment of the market. Now, they are looking to destroy retention marketing by offering players the horrible choice of exactly what they want. Quick recap: Online gaming operators rely on CRM, not on affiliates. Why?

Oct 24, 202421 min

HI Archives | VIPs: Using the RFM method

We all love VIPs. We enjoy that James Bond feeling, thinking if we can treat our top players like in films, we might get a free meal during our next trip to Las Vegas - because, you know, karma and such. At this point, you probably know by yourself that in reality, the karma phase ends differently. Once you're concentrating on your top segment, why even bother with them annoying, block-capital using, bonus-nagging players, who can’t seem to spell even the word “a” correctly?...

Oct 24, 202413 min

HI Archives | A typical day in CRM

07:00 I've just returned home from the gym. Sounds cool, eh? Well, actually it was just a pilates class. But you see, that’s what us CRM people do - take a grain of truth, such as the connection between the terrible Swedish platform we use and proper 21st century technology, and glorify it to the maximum. We also do it in front of the players, re-selling the same online casino games again and again (“An exciting NEW slot!”), often under impossible bonus budget constraints. Are you not entertaine...

Oct 24, 202420 min

HI Archives | Play Hard

Shahar Attias speaking about coffee, kosher whiskey and CRM on an alien planet.

Oct 24, 202416 min

HI Archives | Time to do away with Business Intelligence

Hi, my name is Shahar and I don’t think business intelligence (BI) people should exist. What’s the reason behind my statement? I mean, everybody loves the BI staff. What would you do in this info-hungry industry of ours without data? If you are following my articles here, you would know at this point how much I value reports, real-time and accurate analysis, so how can I say such a thing?

Oct 24, 20245 min
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