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Cheaper Than Therapy with Vanessa and Dené

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Vanessa Bennett and Dené Logan are two soul sisters and therapists who connected over their shared love of depth psychology—known as the psychology of the soul. It is a template for diving beneath the surface to examine the complex natures of being human while on the quest for wholeness, including the relationship to spirit. Through their training and lived experiences with depth, yogic psychology, and mindfulness, they developed a passion for supporting others in living their most authentic lives while cultivating a fulfilling and rich relationship with the Self, capital “S.”

Every Wednesday, Vanessa and Dené look to demystify, de-stigmatize, and desensitize what goes on both inside the therapy room and in daily life, through soul-provoking conversations with fellow seekers, thought leaders, changemakers, and real people during live coaching sessions as they navigate the hard work it takes to be a human.

This podcast is, for sure, Cheaper Than Therapy. 

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Episodes

Ep 61 The Power of Storytelling with Dr. Corey Emanuel

In this episode we sit down with Dr. Corey Emanuel. Corey is a writer, producer, author, mentor, and thought influencer with a Masters in Communication and PhD in Media Psychology. He’s the founder of Corey Emanuel Omnimedia, a Los Angeles based full-service production company, as well as founder of the social movement Men Talking Shift. Corey is passionately dedicated to using entertainment and media as vehicles to tell stories that inform, inspire, educate, and promote self-actualization. We s...

Jun 16, 202155 minEp. 61

Ep 60 Embracing the Messy - Live Coaching Session

In this live coaching session, we speak with Carla about the dating patterns she’s feeling reemerge after doing a lot of hard work while single. We explore building the muscles of taking the brave step of speaking to our needs, how sometimes an emotional cutt-off can be the easier choice than a tough conversation, the fact that someone’s ability to hold space for our vulnerability is critical information about their emotional capacity, and the healing that can come from showing someone our “mess...

Jun 09, 202135 minEp. 60

Ep 59 Negotiating Introversion and Extroversion in Relationships

In this episode, we explore the inner workings of an introvert and an extrovert - at least from our perspectives. We break down the meaning of these terms as they were originally defined by Carl Jung (versus how we see them sometimes misused in Pop Psychology), how experiencing the world as an introvert or an extrovert impacts our romantic, friend, and familial relationships, learning to be in acceptance of our nature, and where we draw the line between compromising the truth of who we are in pa...

Jun 02, 202140 minEp. 59

Ep 58 Being Human Together with Miles Adcox

We were absolutely thrilled to get to sit down with Miles Adcox. Miles is an entrepreneur, speaker, host, consultant, writer, and coach. He is known for his over 15 years as owner and CEO of Onsite, an internationally-known emotional wellness lifestyle brand that delivers life-changing personal growth workshops, inspiring content, leadership retreats, and emotional treatment. We talked with Miles about some of the new ventures he’s undertaking, how exploring our emotional health can feel like di...

May 26, 202159 minEp. 58

Ep 57 Leveling Up Our Learnings - Live Coaching Session

In this live coaching session with Zoe, we talk about all of the realizations she’s had over the last year following a divorce. We explore the ways that we can shrink ourselves in relationships, the way that parenting can bring an awareness of what we’re capable of, how to move from survival mode to the experience of happiness and exploration, and following breadcrumbs in the pursuit of self, purpose and happiness. If you love the conversations we’re bringing you as much as we do, please subscri...

May 19, 202133 minEp. 57

Ep 56 Exploring Our Over and Under Functioning

In this episode, we dive into the relational dynamics of over and under-functioning. We share some of our own experiences of healing and stepping into our power, the cost of our predilections toward over and under functioning, and the courage it takes to look inward and understand how our attempts to feel safe may be causing harm to the people we love the most. If you love the conversations we’re bringing you as much as we do, please subscribe, rate and write a review so we can get the podcast o...

May 12, 202138 minEp. 56

Ep 55 Uncovering New Paths For Ourselves - Live Coaching Session

In this live coaching session with Jillian, we discuss the tension we experience when we’re struggling to follow through on the next steps we’re longing to take. We explore the need to pull in different tools when we’ve exhausted all of our current resources, becoming aware of our power and channeling it to set a new course, the impact of getting still when all we want to do is move, and how we start to receive and interpret messages from a higher power. If you love the conversations we’re bring...

May 05, 202132 minEp. 55

Ep 54 Re-emerging Bravely with Seane Corn

We were absolutely thrilled to sit down with internationally acclaimed yoga teacher and activist Seane Corn. Seane is a powerful force, known for her social impact, impassioned style of teaching, and raw, honest, self-expression. We take a deep dive into yoga and social justice, how it is impossible to separate our path as yogis from the core tenet of ahimsa (non-violence), the fact that generational trauma is often present in our deepest moments of activation, and how we might all use this mome...

Apr 28, 20211 hr 24 minEp. 54

Ep 53 Dating as a Testing Ground - Live Coaching Session

In this live coaching session with Olive, we talk about feeling skeptical as we get back into dating - especially as a single parent. We explore how to find a middle ground between self-abandonment and self-protection, using the relationships we saw growing up as a way to understand what was modeled for us, giving ourselves permission to create our own rule book when it comes to dating, and balancing all of our responsibilities with a desire to experience connection. If you love the conversation...

Apr 21, 202127 minEp. 53

Ep 52 Moving Into the Realm of Curiosity with Stefanos Sifandos

Stefanos Sifandos is a relationship alchemist. He is also an advocate for men’s empowerment, a relationship coach, and well-known for his transformational way of educating on the interplay of masculine and feminine dynamics. We talk with Stefanos about how addressing our core wounds can support us in creating resiliency for the inevitable challenges we’ll continue to face in life, the contrast of our introverted and extroverted shadow (a new usage of the terms for us!), how masculine and feminin...

Apr 14, 202159 minEp. 52

Ep 51 The Perfectly Imperfect Package - Live Coaching Session

In this live coaching session with Karen, we talk about how we start to acknowledge that we are worthy of creating new love experiences. We explore the power of language when describing who we are, giving ourselves credit for the ways in which we’ve grown, bringing our partners along for the ride as we process difficult moments, and using mindfulness practices as a way to bring ourselves back when opening up to love feels really scary. If you love the conversations we’re bringing you as much as ...

Apr 07, 202135 minEp. 51

Ep 50 Our First 50!

In this episode we celebrate and reflect on the first 50 episodes of Cheaper Than Therapy! We look back at the decision to start a mental-health centered podcast in a year where mental health was at the forefront more than ever before, how we can stay hopeful when so much of the messaging around us creates a narrative that initiates a fear response, our argument in defense of love as our natural state of being, and how we move - as a society, into a state of collective forgiveness. If you love t...

Mar 31, 202138 minEp. 50

Ep 49 Developing Your Personal Power with Jori Adler

Jori Adler is a Psychotherapist & Founder of Flow House Therapy in Los Angeles. She has a unique gift for pairing integrative healing modalities with a container that is just the right fit to facilitate healing. Jori is also someone who has had a tremendous influence on Dene’s journey to becoming a therapist. We sat down to talk with Jori about how EMDR can help us to process trauma through a different lens, how the field of therapy is evolving and shifting, 6 tools for developing your perso...

Mar 24, 202159 minEp. 49

Ep 48 Out of the Loop, Into the Body - Live Coaching Session

In this live coaching session with Carly, we talk about the complexities of dating after a divorce. We explore the challenges of meeting someone online during a pandemic, learning to trust ourselves after we’ve experienced a betrayal, how we can make mindful dating a practice for getting to know ourselves better as we get to know others, and how “the loop” going on in our head can be an indication that we need to come back into our bodies. If you love the conversations we’re bringing you as much...

Mar 17, 202134 minEp. 48

Ep 47 Practicing Embodiment with Mary Beth LaRue

Mary Beth LaRue is a mama, a yoga teacher, a writer, and the creator of Embodied by MB, embodiment based offerings which includes virtual yoga classes, a slow flow teacher training, and an online program of small group coaching for women. Her writing and teachings offer such profound insights for all of us attempting to stay present with ourselves through the pain of uncertainty. Trust us, her personal experience with uncertainty allows her to be a guide for others on this topic. We talk to Mary...

Mar 10, 20211 hr 4 minEp. 47

Ep 46 Emotionally Armoring Up - Live Coaching Session

In this live coaching session with Elle, we dive into a very real challenge all of us inevitably face at some point in adulthood. We explore how to stay grounded in the truth of who we’re growing into, as we go back to where we came from. We touch on themes like meeting ourselves with compassion when we miss the mark, being aware of the trap of black and white thinking, offensive forms of communication, and how to practice being the witness of our experience. If you love the conversations we’re ...

Mar 03, 202142 minEp. 46

Ep 45 Mindful Dating with Melanie Hersch

Melanie Hersch is a psychotherapist turned dating coach who teaches singles how to rewire the unconscious patterns that have been preventing them from having the love they want. Her unique approach blends psychology, spirituality, and energetics to help her clients increase their self esteem, know their worth, and easily attract healthy love into their lives! We talked to Melanie about challenging our limiting beliefs around finding love, how we can bring a sense of lightness to the experience o...

Feb 24, 202155 minEp. 45

Ep 44 A Few Steps Back to Leap Forward - Live Coaching Session

In this powerful follow-up coaching session with Jim, we hear about some of the twists his singlehood journey has taken since our last conversation. We talk about codependent tendencies as a form of addiction, how our feelings of ambivalence can be an invitation to surrender, and that the feeling we’ve taken a backslide is actually a fundamental aspect of our growth. If you want to go back and reference Jim’s original session you can find it in Episode 34! If you love the conversations we’re bri...

Feb 17, 202141 minEp. 44

Ep 43 Expanding Our Minds Through Astrology with Mildred Murillo

If you’ve ever been curious to learn more about astrology, this episode breaks it all down. Mildred Murillo (known to us as Milly) is an Astrologer and Spiritual Coach whose study and knowledge of astrology is based on a Jungian, person-centered approach. She believes that astrology is about guiding her clients to discover the divine wisdom and strength that is within them. We talk with Milly about using our astrological charts as an opportunity to understand what best serves our evolution and a...

Feb 10, 20211 hrEp. 43

Ep 42 Recognizing the Real Self - Live Coaching Session

In this live coaching session with Hazel, we talk about how scary it can feel to embrace the power we hold within ourselves, integrating the lessons we’ve learned after a breakup into how we show up in relationships moving forward, and questioning whose voice we’re hearing in our heads once we realize we’ve been the ones holding ourselves back. If you love the conversations we’re bringing you as much as we do, please subscribe and review the podcast so we can get it out to even more people! *The...

Feb 03, 202136 minEp. 42

Ep 41 Navigating Impossible Parenting

Vanessa and Dené sit down to talk about some of the most difficult realities parents have faced in the last year. They discuss the trouble with parenting as a course correction for what we longed for in childhood, how to cope with parenting burnout during a pandemic, and identifying where we are in terms of our stress levels so that we can give ourselves a break before we reach our breaking point. If you love the conversations we’re bringing you as much as we do, please subscribe, rate and write...

Jan 27, 202143 minEp. 41

Ep 40 Embracing our Broken Parts with Taune Lyons

Taune Lyons is an integrative therapist, writer, and coach in the San Francisco, Bay Area. She specializes in intentional relating, sexuality, unraveling our conditioning, and the integration of painful or potent experiences. Taune also teaches one of the most sought after classes in TAT LAB with a focus on attachment styles. We talk with Taune about how we start to reclaim the aspects of ourselves we’ve previously considered broken, the fluid nature of our attachment styles - despite what pop-p...

Jan 20, 202150 minEp. 40

Ep 39 What’s Underneath Feeling Stuck - Live Coaching Session

In this live coaching session with Katie, we talk about how to differentiate between venting and the deeper talking (ie processing) that we do to initiate and continue growth. We also normalize feeling like you’ve outgrown your therapist and discuss how we can tap into a sense of joy and aliveness during these turbulent times. If you love the conversations we’re bringing you as much as we do, please subscribe and review the podcast so we can get it out to even more people! *These live coaching s...

Jan 13, 202136 minEp. 39

Ep 38 A Holistic Path to Healing with Dr. Nicole LePera

Cheaper than Therapy is back for Season 2! We are thrilled to kick off our new season with Dr. Nicole LePera aka “The Holistic Psychologist.” Nicole was trained in clinical psychology at Cornell University and the New School for Social Research and studied at the Philadelphia School of Psychoanalysis. She is a holistic psychologist whose work addresses the connection between the mind, body and soul incorporating overall lifestyle and psychological wellness practices. She is the creator of the #S...

Jan 06, 202147 minEp. 38

Ep 37 A Year Of Alchemy

In the season 1 finale, Vanessa and Dené reflect back on their greatest takeaways from starting a podcast in the year 2020. They acknowledge the opportunities for growth this year has presented - both individually and collectively, and express how moving it’s been to process the highs and lows with this growing podcast community. Cheaper than Therapy returns for season 2 on January 6, 2021. We’re so excited for our incredible lineup of guests next season! If you’ve got a question for Dené and Va...

Dec 02, 202025 minEp. 37

Ep 36 Taking Your Truths On Tour - Live Coaching Session

In this live coaching session, we talk with Deb about dating with a new set of tools on your tool belt. We normalize waiting for the other shoe to drop when we enter a new relationship, the importance of using past tense language when referring to behaviors we’re working to outgrow, and slowing ourselves down to pause and question our automatic responses. If you love the conversations we’re bringing you as much as we do, please subscribe and review the podcast so we can get it out to even more p...

Nov 26, 202028 minEp. 36

Ep 35 Human First, Therapist Second with Amanda E. White

Amanda E. White is a licensed therapist and the creator of the popular Instagram account @therapyforwomen. She specializes in teaching women how to set boundaries, engage in real self-care, and work through shame. She is the founder of "Therapy for Women Center" based in Philadelphia but now serving clients across the country. She is forthright in her recovery from an addiction and eating disorder and in her clinical work, Amanda specializes in supporting clients in the overlap and intersection ...

Nov 18, 202050 minEp. 35

Ep 34 Dating Without Losing Yourself - Live Coaching Session

In this live coaching session, we talk with Jim about how to know if we’re a little too closed off as we start dating again after a divorce. We explore dispelling the myth that men don’t require emotional connection for sex to be fulfilling, how to clearly state the speed at which we’d like a relationship to proceed, and that sometimes our work is about differentiating our triggers from someone else’s. If you love the conversations we’re bringing you as much as we do, please subscribe and review...

Nov 11, 202034 minEp. 34

Ep 33 A Conscious Parenting Revolution with Katherine Winter-Sellery

Katherine Winter-Sellery is a 3x TEDx Speaker, a parenting coach, and mom of two. For over 20 years, she has been helping families thrive by using a guidance approach to parenting called Conscious Parenting. We talk with Kathryn about how parents can model moving through difficulty without making their children responsible for holding it, the truths we don’t speak in an attempt to avoid hurting those we love, the difference between an intellectual understanding of spiritual principles and using ...

Nov 04, 20201 hr 10 minEp. 33

Ep 32 How We Know When to Level Up - Live Coaching Session

In this live coaching session, we talk with Joan about navigating the execution phase of needing to make a big change. We dive into the distinction between doing the internal exploration required to understand what it is we really want, and then how we start to stay present for what comes up when we’re challenged to take action and step into this new sense of self. If you love the conversations we’re bringing you as much as we do, please subscribe and review the podcast so we can get it out to e...

Oct 28, 202030 minEp. 32
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