Calm Down with Aaron and Carissa is a production of I Heart Radio. Hey, no episode. I don't know what number we're on, but I'm just so happy that we're on six or seven. I think six or seven or maybe eight. Well, I've got exciting news about the number seven because we got a little hint about what the number seven maybe detrimental to your relationship. Dr Oz is
going to join us later. This guy is the most interesting man that you should definitely invite to your next dinner party because we've all been vaccinated hopefully or will be by the time this airs. Dr Oz is a dream. He will be coming up later in this podcast. But right now, Aaron and I are are a quest to ensure that the viewers are getting what they want. We asked questions and you guys answered. We appreciate all of you, Aaron,
the questions that we asked. We're all about relationships, right Yeah. And I got this idea from our good friend Ryan Russelo. He just said how much on he would have on his show when people would submit emails or questions or d m s to him, and he'd I love him so much. Even talked about after his arrest, people wanted to know if they could he could offer life advice. So I was like, you know what, I'm going to steal this from you and we're gonna do it. Do
you mind? And he said, no, have at it. So this week particularly, we asked people for dating if they wanted dating advice. I don't know why we became you know, the gurus on that, but our first question is do nice guys really finished last? What I mean basically, yeah, do do you guys have to be dad? Like? What do you think? Go? Alright? Alright, right, so let's back up here real quickly. Ryan Still, who's like one of
our well, he is our best guy friend. Ryan right now is in an undisclosed location because he's vacationing by himself. Because this is what Ryan does. He gets some relationships and then he goes on vacation by himself and he like those in this full brand. So why this becomes hysterical about this question is because Ryan is a really nice guy. And for a while I thought to myself, could I date Bryan? Because him and I were so No,
it's not a whoe, these are facts. Him and I were so close, like he was like, truly my best guy friend, So I'm like, why why am I not dating Ryan? Like we're both like single, the whole thing, And the reality was like, Brian are too much alike would kill each other. But to get back to the question, and if Ryan was here and not in an area that had no WiFi to loom uh, then he'd be
able to chime in right now. Nice guys, in my opinion, always finished first because I ended up marrying someone that is so much nicer than I am, and I was like, oh, he's so nice. I don't know if I could be with him, But ultimately, like I don't want to be with a dick, Like I've dated a lot of okay and not interested and it's fun for a while, like oh you have to chase them and the whole thing.
But now I want somebody that I know it's dependable, that I know he's not going to cheat on me, and that I know it's like somebody I'm gonna be proud to be the father of my children. So yes, And I keep waiting for my guy to come downstairs as he's headed to the hockey rank Babe, Nope, anyway, but I will say that listen, Yeah, it's good to have a nice guy. I think my husband's a very nice guy. I don't know really anybody that doesn't like him.
But I will preface that nice guy but knows when to be firm when he's dealing with me in terms of my attitude being a little pushy because I can't date a pushover and or marry one. Apparently, um so I appreciate that about him, nice guy, but I need a little attitude in there too. It's like, you know what, I'm gonna be honest. It's like a quarterback. You can't just have a nice guy quarterback. You know, you gotta have a guy with a little lattitude. That's like you
see that. Look what I just didn't. I'm gonna tell I'm gonna tell you what it isn't okay, because I'm with you. The person has to that we marry has to stand up to us because we are very aggressive. Jared getting here? Do you think nice guys finished last? Jarrett? You do? Wait? The question is Jarrett, hold on, hold on, Jared, you won't be able to hear CHRISA. But do you think last or WHOA? Do you think nice guys really
finished last? People say like you would you rather like like the guys that are dicks always come out as the winners in a relationship. No, you're just confused. You're worried about power play and penalty kill. Let's go Los Angeles Kings by day. I love you. You You know what you gotta know. Love, you have a great You look right, you look right? But what was good? He's worried? No, No, what does what does Jared say when he remember the other day we're on the FaceTime? I was like, Jerry,
look right. Say my husband is um. He works a part of the development of the Los Angeles Kings and also does the broadcast. And he loves when you talk about his outfit. And I'll say I said to Chris, I say that his outfit looks great, and he'll say it does right, he loves he loves an outfit. She didn't even have to call me. He looked great. So yes, nice guys do finish first, not last. Next question, Next question, what makes marriage number two a good idea of versus
keeping it a long term relationship? Well, since I'm the only person here that's been married twice, I'll tell you marriage number one. Uh, person was I got married when I was twenty six, I went to break up with him. I was in a lunch date with him and I was like really into him, and I was like, I gotta break up with him because I'm just starting my career. I can't be tied down the whole thing. So I went to break up with him, and he goes, no,
we're gonna get married. We went to Hollywood got ring tattoos, which I've since had removed eleven removals later. I got married three days later. We're married for four years. He wasn't the right guy obviously, So why did marriage number to work out better instead of just being, you know, just having just dating Kyle Because I am now thirty eight years old and I had no reason being married at I will say to anyone that's out there, I think there's like this whole idea else against me from
the eye. I thought that I needed to be married when I first got into this business because I didn't want to be single and be interviewing athletes, because I didn't want to give athletes the idea that like, oh I was single and the whole weirdness because there is it's like you have to be a hundred percent. I thought that I was more credible being married than I was being single. So for me, no, but the but I don't think that's by the athletes. I think that's
by the outside people, which really pisces me off. And I see that because they think if you're being nice to an athlete or smiling when you're single or even when you're married, you just want to hook up, which is so wrong. By the way, there's there's so many this is it's its own podcast, by the way, which maybe we'll make it one. The question was why is my second marriage better than my I waited, why what makes marriage number two? Yeah? Good idea versus just dating
Kyle for a long time. I'm older. I got married at thirty eight years old, like I believe, and this is coming from someone whose parents got married when they were eighteen. I am a much different person now than I was at twenty six when I got married the first time, and that I am a thirty eight I am so glad that I lived life. I was with
the wrong people. I did a lot of bad things and now and Kyle will say the sue, live your life and then when you finally meet the person you're supposed to meet, then you can be like, uh, I did it all, so I'm good. So yeah, I believe in waiting to marry the right person. All right. I think this next question could actually go into the other
question that follows it, so we'll combine them. Advice for single ladies looking for a husband and also how do you stay as I when all your friends are getting married when you're still single? Like Chris out well, for my you know, my only marriage, I was like thirty eight thirty nine when I got married, so everybody in my life was getting married. I mean I found more in my twenties, and maybe because I grew up in the South, it was such a big deal that I
wasn't married then in my thirties. I'm not gonna lie. There was the pressure of like, shit, am I gonna have kids? Or am I gonna be dried up by the time I meet this guy? Then start stuff starts getting crazy, like you get cervical cancer, you don't even know if you can have kids. I mean that throws a real rench into it. But I gotta be honest.
It's like Chris has said, you start getting older and you start being like, okay, you know what some random wedding with eighteen bridesmaids that are wearing like c foam green and like, it's not fucking worth it. It's just not you want to, you know, meet the right person. Now. My husband and I had dated for like five six years before we got engaged. Thank god for Terry Bradshaw, who was like, is this guy gonna put a ring on your finger or what? I mean? This is crazy? Wait?
Does he the Is he the reason you got married to put pressure on you? By the way, for the viewers that don't know, are the listeners that don't know Michael Strahan introduced you to and now Terry Bradshaw's the reason you guys went to the altars? What you're telling us? Yeah? Oh yeah, well why Apparently Terry was drunk one night shocker in the ballroom and like talked to Jarrett at some point and was just like, listen, it's not getting better than this, but whatever, Um no, I just you
know what yourself. No, dude, I'm not gonna let you keep going. You did the Matcheska at the Jersey accent. You got a Terry Bradshaw Oklahoma. Your accent game is like second to none. What would Troy say about your engagement, Well, Troy, Troy announced my engagement at a Green Bay packers uh meeting. Hey do you hear the news e A got engaged? Um so, any who. What I was gonna say was anybody that is so stressed out about getting just stopped.
That doesn't help. It's like trying to get pregnant. It doesn't help. Just calm down, it's gonna happen. Calm down. I met Kyle. I was on a plane to go do a Daniel Hunter interview. I had a boyfriend at the time, which I knew was the wrong guy for a year and a half. I was dating him. Aaron can attest this. She never even got to meet the guy. That's how weird you come in maybe exactly We're supposed to meet at the restaurants. Like I'm not going in.
I'm like, this is weird. Anyways, wrong relationship on the plane and meet Kyle and I was like, oh, that's my husband. And I got the plane and I told my makeup arts at the time because I was going to meet him. I'm like, sal, I just met my Husband's like, don't you have a boyfriend. I'm like, not for long? But you were asleep the whole time. That's what it actually goes into the next question and pick up line. On the plane, I was like, Prisa, you were asleep when he was trying to pick him up.
I was. It was a six am flight to Minnesota, and luckily Fox had booked the ticket, so my contract designated that I was in a first class seat, and I was like six am, six am, And because I knew that the second I got off the plane with the time change, that I was going to have to go straight to do the interviews. So my we was already in that it was like ponytail, so full we ponytail, but no makeup. And I sat down and I remember like like discombobulated, five thirty last person on the plane, like,
what's the flight? What's the seat? Never? And so I went to put my bag in the overhead compartment and the guy in which I now know is seat right. Yeah, no, but the seat before him seat four. And I only know that because now five A and five V, which was our seats, it resonates. I also have a tattoo of it. The guy four was like, oh, you can go in here, and I was like, oh, thanks for
the enthusiasm, but I'm actually in this seat. So then Kyle like started laughing, and so Kyle got and I like, I sat at the window designated seat whatever, like the window seat, and then we fell asleep. Was a six am flight, and so the flight we're on we fell asleep too. Yeah, because I turned out you guys slept together your first meeting. What wouldn't be the first time? Whoa mile high club. We used protection. We had a mask on. No, you didn't know his pre COVID when
we were just animals. So the flights on it just said the flight attendant goes, you know, twenty minutes we're going to be at our destination. We wake up and he goes, hey, isn't your name Sharissa, And I was like, well, it's Corissa, but yeah, and he goes, yeah, you hosted this forty under forty sports business general thing I was at or whatever. Good to see you, and I was like, oh,
I'm good to see you too. And we then talked and we were getting off the plane and we ended up getting coffee together and I was like, I gotta go, I gotta do this interview. And then I text my makeup art and I was like, I just met my husband. He's like, don't you have a boyfriend. I was like, Yeah, that's not the guy I'm talking to. So anyways, three days later, I broke up with my boyfriend over the phone,
and Kyle and I got engaged three months later. So the reality is I had never even set next to anyone I was interested in. And there you go. So don't worry about if you meet Mr Wright. It should be when it's right now. Yeah, let it go. I'll say, stop complaining. Hey, by the way, that slept together joke. The person who taught me this is a tangent for all days. My second job of my career was with the Atlanta Braves. I worked with TBS. That's when God
love him. Skip Carrie was still calling the games with Joe Simpson. We flew back somewhere to Atlanta. He was in the seat next to me. I was too. We both passed out when we woke up. Skip Ghosts. Well now I can tell everyone I've slept with Aaron Andrews. God love you, Skip Carrie. He was just so fantastic. Loved him so much. Any who, Okay, our next question is tips for balancing a work schedule, heavy work schedule in a relationship doesn't make time to have sex. That's
what Kevin Hart said. I it's a hard one and I think you need all the help you can get. My husband's really good about telling me to put my damn phone away. Our time is our time. We try to make date night. We are, you know, trying to have kids, and that's actually gonna put probably a big dent in this situation of trying to figure out this relationship. But look, I want to work, he wants to work. We both love our jobs. We want to get better.
We're both putting more projects on our plate. But we love each other so much that we know in order to coexist, we have to be happy work wise and we have to be happy with our relationship. So we just try to make it a point communication to which is that's that's a fun game. Hey, we're gonna keep these up. So what we're gonna do. We're gonna put a little twist. I love hearing you know what people
want us to talk about and answering your questions. Next time, we're gonna give you the details via our Camp down podcast Instagram. But we're actually gonna have you come on the podcast all of you that have questions and submit live, which I think that would be so freaking fun. So we'll we'll get you guys the details for that. I love that Dr Odds is joining us next. He's got advice on everything and anything, and stay with us again at Calm Down Podcast. Ernan Andrew's, Chris and j Thompson
subscribe to join all the Things. We'll be back with more after this. This guy does not need an introduction. Dr Oz. You have so many titles, so many jobs written on this sheet of paper. I don't need to list them all down. How are you? Thank you for joining us. I'm doing very Wellsher point out that most of that vision board that got me those titles came from my wife Lisa, thirty six years than I ever did with the What's the Secret thirty seven years I met for Chris is at a couple of months with
four different It's a it's a very important secret. If you're scious, I'll tell you have to recognize that men married the woman exactly as they want them and then you guys want to change because you want to get better, and women married the man. We they you know we
can become and we don't want to change. So from the moment we get married or hooked up, we're starting to spread away from each other and we got to reconnect to Every seven years, you have to make an earnest effort to remember you're not the same person you were seven years prior to that. You've got to reinvent the relationship. And the reason it's seven years is because you have hormonal handcuffs on. Initially you fall in love, your atos and seratonin, all these hormones surging through your
body or love. And that's probably why biologically makes sense that why you're staying together with the kids are young. But you've got to reinvent yourself beyond the biology of love, and that's gonna happen because you look for other things. Wow, this is why we wanted you on our podcast because Aaron and I are not an expert in a lot of things. We may be an expert in sports and some areas, but we're not an expert in relationships. Were not an expert in medicine, but you are all of
the things. That was incredible and so true. Is that why the seven year itches a thing? Oh for sure? And again, if you think about it. After seven years, the child that has been conceived is sort of able to help a little bit. Then they can't go off on their own. But you're not changing diapers anymore. Uh, And it's it's unfortunate, but it's a reality that the initial hormonal tools that are used to glue us together,
they know, they begin to wear off. You start looking around, which is of course the reason that you have to find other reasons to love your soul mate, because you can't just be physical about it. Physicality is always going to be important, and I always encourage people never forget that, you know, sex and the marriage is vital. That stated, there has to be other things beyond that, and beyond just talking about your kids that continue to to glue you.
My parents said we'd fight about two things in marriage, sex and money. So if you don't fight about those two things and you've got a good chance to survive. They've been married since they were eighteen, they had no money, and apparently there had a lot of sex because there's three of us. So it is what it is. Wait, can I ask about reinventing yourself? Okay, wait, so I have I think this will be our that's not a good start. Fourth wedding anniversary. So we have three more
years until we reinvent Where do you start? Where do you begin? Where do you look? Oh my, I'm taking notes. Well, the first big stumbling block is the guy doesn't really know what text going on, and we just because well we're hard wired to go after goals. That's what you want us to be able to do it. When I say, guys, I'm talking about the masculine energy, feminine energy. You can be any gender you want, but the energy of of the masculine player is gonna be aimed for the target.
Hit the target, go after it again. The word sin, you know it's it's actually are a archery term. If you hit the target in the middle of the of the bull's eye that's hitting your target, you miss it. That's a sin. So in order to hit the bulls eye, getta know where the bull's eye is, and you have to be aiming for it. Guys, know where the bull's eye is, the aim for it. You'll get it. But sometimes it's the wrong bulls eye. So if you hit that bull's eye, you're still wrong because it wasn't what
you should have been aiming for. And so we're completely oblivious the bigger issues you've got to pursue in life. I'll just make it personal. So I graduate from I played football in college. I loved sports. I got the medical school. I wanted to be a doctor. I was really passionate about heart surgery, which is my specialty. I didn't have a bigger vision than that. I could have done that for my entire life, and I probably would
have been just fine. Lisa, on the other hand, said, you come home from work lamenting the fact that so many the people you're gonna operate on could have avoided the need for you to take a scalpel to their chest, a band saw through their chest bone. And so don't tell me you're happy. You might think you're happy, but if you actually dig deeper, you realize there's a bigger play here if you can make it happy. And so she was the one who started pushing me. She's remember
the visine commercials. You guys made me too young, But there were these famous commercials with the bloodshot eyes of a model. Yes, yes, those are my wife's eyes. Lisa, she goes one of those viazine models. She had clear vision with you, So she would say because you knew a little bit of a show business. You have wasting the opportunity to tell people about health, because if you give American a message to health, they're listen to it. The reason they're not acting healthy is they haven't gotten
the message. You never gave it to him. So that changed my trajectory and made me think more about what we need to tell people outside the Ivory Tower. I'm at Columbia University and York Presterian Hospital. It's a great place to practice. I never would have to leave, but all around me in New York City, their health catastrophe has taken place. So if she could could get me to go beyond the Ivory Tower, I could actually make an impact. It's much greater than the number of people
I do heart surgery on. And that was the beginning for me. That's how I met Oprah. It's actually Lisa and Oprah conspired to create the Doctorage show and to get me to leave medicine as a full time professional. I still practiced, but only part time and go and start doing interviews like this. That's incredible. So you you first debuted on Oprah in two thousand nine, right, I met Oprah in two thousand three, and I'll tell you how it happened because it fascinating story. It's all because
of Gail King. It was one of the coolest, most influential women period in the country. I approached Gail, who was an editor at Hurst Magazine, and I said, listen, I've got to show that my wife has put together called Second Opinion. It's basically me revisiting all the major things that rereak havoc in your life. And I need to have a big dame guest to launch the show.
Could you get Oprah come on with me? So she called open and said, this guy's got a vision for help that I think agrees with what you want to do. And Oprah loves teaching that she really, I mean, she should have been a teacher, that's what she really likes
to do. So she agreed one the day when she was in New York to come on the show, and she did, and she was my first guest, and we had a blast, and there were a bunch of articles written about it, and her producers saw them and asked me if i'd revisit what we had done on my show on her show, much bigger platform, obviously, and so that was the that was the beginning of it, and initially the reason I was in scrubs because people always say,
you know, curious about how that happened. I was so naive about television that I put a nice suit like this on. I fly to Chicago from New York when I practiced medicine, I bring my organs in an eagle cooler. They thought they must have thought I was Jeffrey Dahmer. Literally organs in a cooler going through security, and i'd I'd end up at her set. I didn't want to get my suit dirty, so I would change into scrubs, fourteen dollar cotton scrubs because they wouldn't, you know, they wouldn't.
Who cares if they smell a little bit from formaldehyde. And I go out and do the shows. And what turned what initially was at naives almost foolish maneuver, and they're becoming really cool because people said, if the Scrubs are on, he's gonna show Organs, and that became one of the markers of the episodes I would do with her. I probably did any plus shows with Oprah over the course of those five or six years. Wow, you talked about Oprah being a teacher. What do you think she's
taught you? Like, the biggest lesson she's taught you? Dtr eyes the biggest lesson without any question at all. And this may resonate with you guys, but it's the deep truth. People do not change based on what they know. People change based on how they feel. If you get people to feel differently about an issue, they'll actually do it. It's true for working on sports and becoming a winning team.
It's true for being a better heart surgeon. If I want to get a patient to act differently towards their body, I'll give you an example. I do not operate on smokers, really, and the reason I don't operate on people who smoke is because by one chance to get them to stop is before I take them to surgery. So I would say, I care about you too much to rush you into the o R. Look around the room with the people
who brought you here. Those people love you. All I want you to do is love yourself as much as they love you. And when you appreciate that you're really that precious, that you're a you have a divine spark in you, and people love you and care about you, you wouldn't put that cigarette in your mouth out anymore. I've never once failed to get a patient to stop smoking.
Sometimes they go back to smoke again. I recognize that failure rate, but I've never once failed to get a patient stopped smoking by using an approach similar to that. I found that so interesting though, as you said that your wife was actually responsible for you introducing what's her and Oprah's relationship. Well, Lisa was the one who went to open and said, my husband needs to have a presence in your program that people can relate to. So
make him America's doctor call him. That literally put her on the band, the big monitor behind him, and and so people can begin to understand what you're trying to do. And sometimes you actually have to tell people and show people and then reinforce the people what you're up to and what Opraush sought to do and she she's done it before and being after me as well is to get people that she trusted to be envoys ambassadors of
whatever our specialty is, in my case obviously healthcare. And then she said, okay, I'll teach you basically it's Oprah University. I'll teach you oz how to talk to people about stuff. You have to bring interesting ideas and up your game so you can connect with people in a way that means something. And then working with her team and her hood was fantastic. By the way, the whole team at Oprah Show was just stellar individuals who understood the subtlety
of how to make great programs. And then my wife was playing a role because she knew me better than anybody else. But she also knew health. Her father is a heart surgeon, was a pretty well known guy, and she had understood where the big gaps, the big connections
were failing. And so all together we were pulling the oars as hard as we could and it got i mean so big, so fast, in part because there was this voracious appetite for health information, not the kind of health information you traditionally got, like, take better care of yourself, do the right things, I'll see you back in the office in a year. That doesn't mean anything to most people.
If they were doing the right things, they wouldn't be in your office with blood pressure problems, high bood sugar or obesi. So a lot of the wisdom around health is creating automated lives, lives where you do the right thing, because it's easy to do the right thing, and that's a mistake that a lot of people make. And so if you change your life and make it easier to do the right thing by automating your food in the
morning and figure out what lunch you love. In fact, forget about eating food that you think is good for you, eat food that tastes good that happens to be good for you, and you can stay on that diet program your whole existence. Those are the the the deeper realities
to how you build a healthy lifestyle. Because healthy people, I'll say it differently, people overweight look at skinny people and think that they're lucky devils, right, And then people don't understand heavy people because they somehow never picked up those habits. And there's genetic roles and there are other issues as well, but primarily it's about lifestyle. That's why people are heavy. Then they have heavy pets as well, it's probably not genetic at that level. That's crazy. Dr Eys.
You mentioned it got so crazy so fast in a good way with Oprah and her team, and I've seen how they've on a first hand basis work over there. How did you know this thing was bigger than you expected, or maybe did it get bigger than you expected when you started with her? It got bigger than I expected because I didn't know what it was gonna do. I was very naive to the process. I'll tell you what telling moment. Oprah asked me, has it happened yet? And
I said, as what happened yet? It says, you know, has it happened? I said, no, I don't, I don't. I re talking about So when you're walking down the street, the people look over, recognize who you are, and then begin peppering you with questions, and yes, it had just started happening. And I realized at that point that the ability to speak to people in a very honest, authentic way allows you to become part of their family. That's what makes daytime television is so powerful to me. People
have us on in the background. I was actually just you know, it got shopping before this interview, and I had a mask on, so people couldn't really tell who it was. I said something as soon as the woman heard my voice that the count as you knew who I was because they don't have to watch daytime television half the time. They're just listening to it, but you're part of the family, and so they respect that you're they're bringing them good information. Because by the way, if
you didn't, they wouldn't invite you back. Right, You're not gonna bite your friend over and they're not bringing you worthy stuff. So Oprah's big message was respect the audience. Always remember that they're out there looking for things to help them, bring them stuff that works for that purpose. And if you do that, don't invite you back. Over
and over and over again. And it has been a wonderful for me, blessing because I know a lot of people, as they think about whether they can control their destiny, look back and say, yeah, I can't because I just heard it said on oz or Oprah or whoever show that they're watching that they trust because if I can give you confidence that you can change your future, then you'll lose the nihilism that holds you back. And that's the real epidemic that we're struggling with in America now
is people have lost hope. People don't realize that they have agency to control their future, that if they're brave, they'll be rewarded. That's the big message and health is a good place to start because if you can change what's happening inside your body, you can change the world outside of it. And that's the deeper, fundamental reason why health matters. It's the first stepping stone to controlling all the things as you want to change in your life. Yeah,
and with that comes great responsibility. So I imagine when people stop you on the regular but ask you for advice or ask you are they mostly asking you for help in a medical area or is it now because you do so many different things, what is that primary question that they're asking you? There has to be one. Well, the big question historically was I don't lose weight as in public. In private, if you're a you know, a
place where they get you to themselves. They ask about sex because there's a sexual feminine America, and people don't realize that they're not alone. They don't want to talk about it. Women always blame themselves when their men aren't performing. And I keep emphasizing most men who aren't performing or having a medical problem or a deeper emotional problem, help them with If the machinery works, they don't want to use it, So don't blame yourself. It's a problem, not
a blame issue, not a shame issue. You know, get ahead of it. And those are the two things this past year. Obviously it's all COVID all the time, because there's so much confusion about the rapid fire hose worth of data coming into our mouth every day, and it's hard to process at all because most there's not enough wisdom for the average human being to be able to understand all these different moving parts. So a lot of
what they asked me is break it down. What would you do if it was your family, which is how I try to do it on the show. I'll tell you what I do for my daughters, my wife, my parents, and if I do it for them, you don't at least think about that option. What was the rest of the medical community's reaction when you became who you are? I mean, you know, I imagine that there were some pundits or some people that looked at like, oh, he's a sellout, or he's this or he's that because you
became this household name. Did the medical community react positively or negatively to your success? Be honest, I'll tell you. I'll be honest. This mixed. You don't have to I don't have to be honest. You can read you can read people's comments. The the The big message that I was trying to deliver is a scary one. It's that you can become the old expert in your body and you've got to trust your instincts and push for what's yours. So if you're not getting the care you think you deserve,
asked either that person again or ask somebody else. But don't take no for an answer. Recognize that there's lots of wisdom out there about health that we don't understand in the Western world because we haven't gotten there yet. A lot of the subtle things, the whole remedies, alternative medical approaches, this stuff is. Some of it's who never gonna work. Some of it's gonna be effective and has already been improven effective. So you've got to navigate that
a little bit. But you have to own your destiny. And that's a message that not every medical professional likes their patients to hear because it's frustrating. You get a second. Guess what I'm telling you. If aout my whole life learning this stuff, now you're coming in here and telling me that you know bioidentical hormones can help you deal
with menopause? Who are you to say that? And I'll say, well, you know, there are lots of doctors who actually use biodetical hormones, for example, for menopause, and the women who take those hormones, well, you know, when they're well tested and appropriately managed, seemed to do really well, you should at least be able to talk about it. And that
is unsettling. But I gotta say, most of my brethren are actually happy because I think I saved them time by educating people about the basics of lifestyle management so they can avoid chronic illnesses. It saves the need for every single doctor seeing every obese slash diabetic, slash hypertensive patient that need to have that conversation. But I gotta be clear on this. We're not winning this battle right now. The reason America got hit so hard by COVID we're
a quarter of the world's deaths. The reason we got hit so hard is we're not, at our heart a healthy population. Most of the people, the overwhelming majority of people, are people who died had obesity, hypertension, or high blood sugar, or some chronic disease related to those and so we're not taking charge of our health. And when these types of inflammatory viruses hit us, they call those people from the herd, and we want to avoid that in the future. Yeah,
I mentioned the dependence. You have a lot of different chapters in the book of your life. A new one is, you know, hosting Jeopardy. I was very four in it to be close with Alex Trebeck and he was a very important person in my life. I was like devastated when he passed away, as we all were. You know, we welcomed him into our living room. I remember watching him with my grandpa growing up. Is how I became, uh, you know, infatuated with the individual that said they were
very difficult shoes to fill. You're not going to fill them. You can only hope to, you know, do him the honor um with your position. How have you found that experience so far to be It was one of the most unique experiences of my life to be able to host Jeopardy and Alex Reco I was also close to and adored. Like you grew up watching him and respecting his remarkable talents as a broadcaster. I also respected his
talents as a human being. I'll give you one story real quickly, and then I'll tell you about my personal experience there. The last time I was with him, we were backstage at Jeopardy and he we were in his dressing room, the one that I would ultimately use when I guest hosted the show for a couple of weeks, and I was about to leave. He said, before you go, let me show you some and he walked me out down the hallway and there's this long corridor of just
Emmy awards, all the enemy's they've had on Jeopardy. He walked right past those awards, didn't never slowed down. At the end of that corridor, there was a big glass case with all the notes, quilts, prayer rugs that have been sent to him from people wishing him the best. And he got very emotional as he began looking at the letters and reading some of the bits that he obviously looked at before, and realized that the really impact he'd had in America was to bring a little bit
of light into our lives. He lifted a little bit of a burden for all of us, and that was the love he was getting back. That's the man Alcabec represented the culture that he left behind. The Jeopardy is unparalleled. Mike Richard's EP. All these guys are superstars and they do not cut corners. Every single thing has to be done perfectly, and it's not. You do it again, and then they put you through boot camp. Imagine this. I've been toasting shows. I mean it was a thousands of
television shows. I mean a lot of time in front of a camera. No no, no, no, don't matter. I had to go to boot camp. I spied a weekend getting rehearsed by the writers who are brilliantly writing these questions being guests, and then pretending to mess me up like they'd asked the answer it wrong. They give me a complicated response that wasn't right. So I had to
learn how to deal with those those seal problems. Because what Alex did so effortlessly that's really really hard to do, is he kept the game flowing and from a fire hose sixty one questions in twenty some minutes, you've got a ton of information. He's got to keep it going because if you slow it down, you give the other contestants unfair advantages of the ones one first a Jeopardy boot camp who knew well I want to know your reaction. I mean, you're you know, you work very closely with
the heart. What was the blood pressure like? As you know, the lights went on and they were like three two. You know, it is just like playing sports. It's great. You've got a little bit of anxiety, but a good kind. Whenever I was getting ready to play, I always think, I can't wait to get out there. I worked so hard, I earned this right just to be able to give it my best, and so I'm gonna I'm just gonna get out there. But anxiety as soon as you walk out there and you harness it a little bit like
a puppy dog. You just started to sit up, settle in, and it just felt so good. And then you get in the zone and the contestants are so smart. My only fear the whole time was that I would mess up the contestants by saying something or doing something that wasn't right for them and throw them off their game. I wanted them all to have a fair chance to compete.
But I I left those shows so impressed by how wise these people are at so many different kinds of you know, they've got, they've got they know they do the equivalent of weightlifting with their brains daily. But not everyone lifts the same weight. These guys lift heavyweights with their brains. Well, that's high praise coming from a doctor. Are you still practicing? Dr? Like? Can? Can somebody get it? You know, I'm gonna say it wrong. A cardio cardiothoractic
appointment and what is that? And this I have seven thousand questions. My dad actually suffered a big time heart attack right before COVID. And so when you know reading all about you, what is that surgery? Dr? Oz So? My training is in heart surgery, so bypass operations, changing valves, doing heart transplants. I helped build the mechanical heart program
at on my institution. My real claim to fame is I helped invent the devices to fix heart vouls from the groin without having to stop the heart, without having to open the chest. And I did that through much of my career. I love tinkering and I love fixing stuff. And I'm sorry about your dad, Thank you, But I tell you that the medical profession has gotten so proficient and managing heart disease because we got so much of
it that hopefully he'll do well. Yeah. No, I was actually I mean not to get personal, but it was a question I had. You know, my dad was the last person when we got the phone call that night that we thought this was going to happen to vegetarian works out every single day, almost underweight. But what we didn't know what was going on in our family was oh gosh, and now I'm blanking out. What is it?
Coronary artery disease? We didn't know. And I was going to ask you too selfish questions and nothing about sex um. But my two questions are as a forty three year old and travel on the road all the time, you know, when should somebody whose dad just suffered a heart attack because of that? Is there anything I can do for myself? And then also with my dad being high risk now he's had the vaccine, like, is there anything the forty two year old daughters should be worried about with my father?
Moving forward with all of this, well, this for you first preventive medicine. So generally speaking, if you're real, if you how old your dad. By the way, my dad is sixty seven, so any medical problem that happens before the age of sixty five and he's close mandates that you assume you have a genetic problem. Now, it doesn't mean you have it, and it doesn't mean that if you do lifestyle changes ahead of time, you can avoid it. But your dad's vegetarian underweight, so he's done most of
the things correctly. I mean, I remember operating on a forty five year old Yogi once lackt of vegetarian not like they're just a vegetarian meditating underweight, and he said that he felt blessed because every male and his family had died a decade earlier than that. And so jeans, they you know, they're the cards you're dealt. So you have to be thoughtful about your heart history. Because you're
a female with estrogen, you're protected. Males have testosterone poisoning, so we actually get hurt to seize about a decade earlier than women. But by the time you're in your late forties. Uh, you should be evaluated with either. Right, you can do a stress test, but I like to do a ultra fast CT just to take a quick peek at the arteries to see if there's any plaque on them. Okay, this is true for everyone. Want listening right now. If you can get an actual picture either
a crowdo ultrasound or a picture of your heart. It tells you whether you're actually making plaque or not. If you're not making plaque, the numbers, the cholesterol values, that none of that matters then, because if we're using those blood tests to estimate your risk of making plaque, but we can actually look these days and see if you're making plaque. And so if you do that, they'll help God whether you need dical therapy or not, because I don't want to put you on pills before you need them.
And if you have no plaque, who cares what your cholesterol is as long as you don't have anything else going on. With regard to your dad, the most important reality is the blood coursing through his vessels was corrosive. Something rusted his blood vessels. So no matter what he's eating, no matter how he's taking care of himself, he's got some genetic issues caused a problem. You've got the air and figure that out. And they're very sophisticated tests that
are done now. They're not garden variety tests. But most sixty five year old vegetarians are underweight, don't have heart problems. So he's got something unique so you gotta will go one step further. There's a test called the Berkeley test, and there are others as well that look very carefully at these different kinds of cholesterol, and if he's got one of the more abnormal profiles, there are different medications we put them on. Here's the big secret about medicine
that's not talked about much. The ailments that plagued us the most are the ones that all doctors learn a little bit about. But because we learned a little bit about them, we think we're world experts on them. So everyone's got a cholesterol value. We learned about it the first month of medical school and from then on we all think we're pretty good at it. But not all
cholesterol experts are equally good. So find a world class cholesterol person to try to find out what went down with your dad's arteries, because there's someone who knows that answer that who's gonna be able to save his life because whatever solutions exist today that we put into his heart to get the blood flowing, because the fluid coursing through those man made graphs are not as good as what he was born with. Who rush those as well,
So get ahead of it. He also blames the fact that the Packers haven't done anything in the off season as adding stress for him. So, you know, let's go green bag. You know, Dad, that's that's not quite true. Because Aaron Rodgers hosting Jeopardy right after me. They are doing something. Eron's been Aaron one when he was a contestant on Jeopardy. But Dr hoj, you are the world's most interesting man. Move over Doseki's because you know about a three or four defense. You know questions to UH
and answers to Jeopardy. You can perform open heart surgery, and you know all about sex, which we had more time to talk about, which means we're gonna have to have you on again. Yes, we can't thank you enough for your time, really truly, thank you so much. It's been a real blessing. You gotta take care of yourself. Come to a football game, Come be on the sidelines with me when you If you come to an Eagles or a Giants game, I'll be there. Done. I'd love
to have you on. Thank you. By You're the best I could talk to him. He's a dream. Yeah, great guy. I would like to talk to him over some like he mentioned Oprah. I want to be with Oprah with alcohol. I want to sit down with Dr Oz with alcohol. I just want to what I'm saying, he is my last supper. Invite you know those questions that you did
with like, oh, invite someone living or dead. I'll take him because the fact that he started out our conversation about how to keep a marriage alive, I mean, as someone who's on her second I'm all yours. And what he had to say, and the pheromones and the physics and the whole thing that came along with it, I definitely lee found him to be more impressive than I
already thought he was. And what I love too is he's a guy that's continued to reinvent himself, even his family, his daughter's shows, like shows and all that kind of stuff, and and anybody that has sustained a marriage through the ebbs and flows of life. I always and all years for us. So I really enjoyed listening to him. Yeah. I told my friends, Um, because we filmed that while we were in Montana. I told my friends about it, and they I said, every seven years, that's what he said,
you should try to talk about it all. Reinvent everything, and my friends had been married for ten years, said, well, we're about three years too late. Bad for us. They have three kids. They're fine. But yeah, no, I I loved him. I thought he was phenomenal. He's reminded me of Dabo Sweeney, Clemson head coach. You just asked one question and you let him go. I mean, he just you don't even need to interview the guy. He's phenomenal.
I love that. And also too, when we talked to him about the medical field, which let's be honest, like put on the lab coat, let's be you know, science and mathematical and whatever, and for him to sort of go rogue on that and really which he credits his wife too, for that introduction to Oprah and going more mainstream that he knew maybe something and a little bit of some pundits came along with that, But ultimately, what he ends up doing is being accessible to that audience
that's at home that doesn't maybe have the money to go to a specialist or or have the access to the medicals and not everyone again, of course has insurance and can go to a doctor. So I think what he's able to do, you know, just being in our living rooms on a television is far superior to anything else. So I really enjoyed listening to him and definitely could talk to him for a long time about all of
his advice on things. He's a disrupter. People don't like it in your field when he kind of shake it up and do things a little different. What did you take away from the things that he said to you about Steve? Oh? Yeah, I think now, just for me, it's like the tests I need to get to make sure coronary artery disease isn't something that I'm going to be dealing with twenty years down the line, but it sounds like I will because you know it's hereditary and
we didn't know that about my father. It's it's yeah, it's something that weighs on my mind. I wanted to ask him even more in terms of like corona, my dad being high risk and you know he's vaccinated, but are we good? But I'm sure that's listen. I feel like we're going to talk to him down the road. But yeah, I mean, he mentioned the tests I should be taking. He mentioned the questions I should be asking of my dad's doctors, and I loved it. Yeah, I I had. I guess I had no idea. He worked
transplants and all that. I love that. Are you good about going to a doctor on the regular? Got really good about going to the Oh you are, yes, my mom? And still that. That's how I found out I had cervical cancer. I am. I always go to the dentist every six months. I always go to the gynecologist every single year. I stay on top of ship. And that's why when I was diagnosed with cancer, we were like, there's no way. I was just here a year ago,
Like how could this happen? And then when I came out public and I said, you know, I had this and I found it from a routine exam, I was blown away with how many women said to me, I haven't been to the doctor in three to four years. I need to go for my annual. I'm like, are you fucking crazy? Like this is how I found out I had it. Well, that's not good. You need to go. You have got to go. So so I I go to the dentist every six months. I go to my my guy in college is set me up for my
ex boyfriend. That's weird. That's a different podcast. I am routine about that, but I would, you know, when you fill out like who's your general practitioner doctor or whatever.
I don't have one. Like I go to my guy in college, and so I'm like, I've got this pain in my foot, Like he's like my all encompassing doctor, which is late, but I should do a better job, and and obviously, being as close as we are, I should definitely like, you know, take that into consideration, like I need to just go and get because I am under that like umbrella for a lot of people that's like, oh, I don't feel something, So I'm not gonna checked out.
So I will make a concerted effort to do that because it is important, and I think there is a little bit of fear in me that's oh if I don't know, then I won't worry about it. But yeah, the worst worst things that I have to make every six months is to you know this, I text you all the time to the cancer center. I freaking hate it my oncologists. It's very attractive. I love him so very much, but I think that's how how we have to meet every six months. I actually need to check
to see when my next six month appointment is. He's amazing. It's the worst. A couple of months ago, I think, so yeah, but it's awful. It's terrible to go to the doctor, but you gotta go because again, like my dad, nothing was wrong with him and then all of a sudden this, you know, huge events. So I just gotta go get that, get the old blood pressure checked out, the vitals. Well. I love you, thank for being open and honest about that, because it's important for a lot
of people. And I again and I will yield your own advice that even though I go to attention to my kind of gog, I need to get a check up all things. So for those of you listening or watching, let's all make an effort to check up and check in often. And uh look at it as a great luxury that we have to be able to have somebody bring awareness to something that we might not have known that will be preventative in the future. So big thing,
especially right now with COVID. A lot of people put their health off because they didn't want to go into the doctors. I just went to the dentists and this girl's like, I haven't been here in three years. I was like Jesus, like, I better have less scraping in the old mouth and this broad you know what I mean. So yes, go to the doctor, wear a mask, go
to the doctor. Go to the doctor. Doctor Oz, thank you for your time and energy and uh for those of you that enjoyed that segment with him and want to hear more from Dr Oz, make sure that you d m us on our Calm Down podcast. Ask all the questions you want to ask us. He's incredible and incredible resource and we're lucky to have him, so hopefully we can have him all with more questions. We will be able to tap into his very limited time. And thank you guys again for listening. I will now schedule
all appointments. This has been calmed down podcast. I will calm down with my tentativeness to go to the doctor. Um, Aaron, love you, love you, See you next week. Care. Calm Down with Aaron and Carissa is a production of I Heart Radio. For more podcasts from my heart Radio, visit the I heart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.