Episode 16: Getting Down to Business

she's perfectly into side hustles. Exactly what Aaron's referring to is on your laptop where the message flies in half the time. I don't turn the notification off, so it's the dging like I'm that person in the background. And so when you see just the headline of the email come through and it's not news you want, well, we're gonna get into all of that. Welcome everybody to Calm

Down Podcast this week. It is all about, as Aaron just mentioned, our side hustles, not to reduce them, by the way, these are full blown businesses, but we like to um affectionately and maybe humbly, refer to them as side hustles. Because we have a lot of different hats we wear, and this isn't you know, uh the Aaron

and Charissa talk about how great they are podcasts, it's more. Um. We decided to have this podcast be about business because it's a constant quest that we have to grow our own businesses, to learn from other entrepreneurs, and just continue to be honest about a space that we're both new to. You've been in it a little bit longer. But before we get into all of that, how was your weekend, my sweetheart? I got a bunch of messages asking about you after our last podcast. I had a lot of

people very um concerned and asking how you're doing. And I thought it was so sweet that you're so vulnerable with your your experience that you've been going through. Thank you. Yeah, no, I I thought the UM, I don't know if that's my emails or yours. I don't think it's my mine. UM, yeah, sure deal, you know what are you gonna do? Um? I got a lot of great feedback, my husband and I both did, and that was very very sweet and thank you. I read everybody's d m s and got

X messages and it was really really kind. Um. Good I am happy to report besides email I just got. But I'm not gonna let it affect me because you know why there were no loads of my weekend. I'm going to tell you why the high of my weekend. And I talked to you earlier today and I told you a little bit about this. I had an amazing um energy spiritual healer osteopath come to my house on Saturday work on me because I just I had told you,

you know, privately, and I'll say it here. I had never felt as in the dumps personally as I have felt over the last two weeks because of everything my husband and I had experienced. And listen, You've been there for me through my stocking, my cancer, everything, And I just like I never had COVID and I listened to you talk about COVID brain, I felt like I had COVID brain. Like I just I forgot words. I just I was just really slow and I was feeling really bad for myself. So I kind of had to get

out of this. Um a line from Sex in the City movie my Mexicoma. Um, but I want to be in a Mexicoma and so I um talked to a dear friend, and she hooked me up with this woman and she was an angel. As soon as I talked to her on the phone, she was fabulous. As soon as she came to my house, she gave off a great vibe. I was telling you the things that she

was doing. She you know, sat me down and kind of talked about things I wanted to improve on and things I do as a person, and that kind of taught her where to work on me on my body. Have you ever heard of ralph thing before? I have, as I've ralfed. I've actually ralfed like like a like a ralphing, like throwing up but not good. That's very different. Not to be confused with Ralphie from Christmas Story. There's a lot of delineations of Ralphie or Stephen, Ralph Andrews,

my dad, Oh angel face. But what is the medical or like holistic reference you're making. I don't know. But um, I can't explain what I went through. Basically, she was working on things that I was feeling at the time from you know, what we had suffered over the last two weeks, and my whole deal was fear, anxiety, and anger. Yep, there they are the three, the three that I am dealing with. And she said, like fear and anger were kind of located in your liver and your diaphragm. And

she went in there and started digging. And this wasn't like a pampering, calming massage. This was going after your business inside, like trying to just work the inside of your body to help you have a release. I told you. She then worked on my jaw. I tightened up my jaw. I feel things in my chest and in my neck when I have anxiety. She literally put gloves on and worked the back of my mouth where I had tears coming down my eyes, just to kind of open me up.

We did a meditation. We did all of that. But the one thing I wanted to tell you about. She has a company called sat Supply. It's drinking olive oil. She is Greek. If you look up sat Supply, you'll find Supply righting it down. She is very good looking. Um, I already have somebody I want to set her up with. And she she believes in drinking olive oil every single day. It's good for what was the word we said? Anti inflammation. Um, it's good for your skin. It's good for so many

different things. Look it up on Instagram. It's not a plug. I did it this morning. You're supposed to savor it. You're supposed to sip it. It's supposed to help you out from the inside out. Listen, I love a product. I'll buy anything in the store, and i'll buy anything from a healer. You know, well, I've a couple of

different things. When we spoke earlier, Um, I was really proud of you for doing that, because I feel like that's also something that was like outside your comfort zone, or maybe before any of this had happened, you weren't as open to doing so. I think that that speaks to a lot of things when we're going through traumas being you know, just sort of having an open mind about healing and not just suppressing it or being like it's fine, I'll get over it and whatever. So really

working from the inside out. What I found was fascinating was the liver that that's what you care all of your anxiety? Is it anxiety? I think my anger and my fear anger and your fear there, And so I wonder, because I love a cocktail, I wonder if when that's happening, or like when your body is like trying to you know, hence why everything moves through your liver to like to

talxify you. I wonder if it gets stored there. I'd love to learn more about it because I've always just been a person and I grew up this way where it was like, oh, if there's a problem, like just go for a run or go work out, and like you'll get over it kind of a thing, right and like get like some natural endorphins, which I do think is really helpful in you and I are both like this or it's like we feel better after we work out.

But I would love to learn more about your experience because I think that even independent of not having you don't have to have gone through a trauma to have it be beneficial. So I think that that's great. I love that in listening to people that she works with and listen, everybody has like things that they've gone through in their life and it doesn't have to be a huge trauma. Like you said, it's just taking care of yourself,

your inner self. We do so much in you and I said it, you know, we get our hair colored, we go to a facialist to work out religiously, we're really good, like I mean, get your eyelashes, get your botox, get anything done. But are you really working on the inside of yourself? I mean, it's just it makes a ten of sense. And it was, you know, the things she was saying to me, and the meditations we were doing and so forth, a lot of visualization, which helps me.

Although I hate when you're sitting there and you're in a full blown meditation and you're like, ship, do I have to pick up the dry cleaning? This, go back to end go back to his end um? But yeah, you know, and she said, it's not like I'm telling you things you haven't heard before. It's just like, you know, a level list. She gave me a list. These are all the things, very long list I need to work on. So yeah, but I was so thankful. I mean, she full blown angel. I loved her so much so she

walked in our house. I made Jarrett help get her massage table out and everything here. He sat and talked to her for ten minutes. Of course he did, of course he did. Of course he did. Whether out she was hot. Jared is that guy that anybody that, hey, how's it going By the time you guys are done with like anybody that's walked in your home. He like knows her her birthday, her, He's so sweet. He's just such a good person. But I'm really happy that you

had that experience and not now. I mean, I'm like, can I get her idea? Like I want to get in on all that action, all the goodness, and I needed for sure. Do you do this weekend? I'm in New York. I'm actually sweating currently because I've turned off the A C. It is seven thousand degrees here, which I didn't realize it was that hot there already. It's not normally Kyle said, like, oh, it doesn't normally get this hot into like July or August. It's like I'm

constantly sweating, Like no one needs all that. But I went for a run this morning and it's like that's what I'm into. The heat is when you want to sweat, and it's that good humidity. But I had a great weekend. I told you, um last week I felt like I wasn't being a great wife and I was being selfish and not really making it about my husband. So I took him on a little staycation. We went to a hotel and then of course I got in a fight with the manager because the one I'll call him out

hotel they had to, like I know. And the thing is, it's like I don't want to get in a fight with the manager. I don't want to be that person because it also embarrasses Kyle where he's like, please stop, and I'm like, I'm trying to be better about this. But if I pay for something, then I feel like

I should get the equal service. And this will play into later like our own business things where it's like, if someone's going to pay for something, we want to provide them with the best product, the best servicing, whatever. So when I go to a nicer hotel and you're gonna spend your hard earn money. So anyways, before I could get in a full blown fight with the managers,

like let's leave. So we left and he was able to rectify something and we had a great time and we hung out on a pool and like you look, having the pool top access in New York, like on a day, like you know, the weekends that we had was wonderful. So I enjoyed that. I will also, I haven't said this yet, I'm leaving New York. We're moving. We're moving to another place. I'll just say, who cares,

I'll end up saying it anyways. Nashville. Yeah, between l A and Nashville, so we're both kind of you know. I didn't feel like I got the full on New York experience because of COVID this past year, and so I'm trying to soak it all up. And now New York like completely open. I went to Starbucks the other day, left the apartment, no mask in the elevator, no mask in Starbucks. I felt like a new person. And I don't know if l A is like that yet, is it. No? I don't know if I'm ready for that yet. But

you're vaccinated. Yeah, yeah, And I just even though like a bunch of us, I know, you know, like when I say that a bunch of us went out yesterday it was a birthday party, one year old birthday party. Got a big noboo date with everybody tonight too, Well, you can't come, I know, someone said that to me. That's someone. A couple of people were like, why do

you get like jealous of Aaron having other friends. I was like, well, I was kind of kidding and kind of not, but it was more of the fact that like when your best girlfriends like hanging out with other people, you just want to be in on the action. So okay, by the way, they all want you to come. They they told me you're just not in town. I know, but well that's fun. Yeah, So we had a great

weekend all the things. And New York. I mean you lived here for a couple of years, like, yeah, there's so much to love about the city and I'm trying to soak it all up. The restaurant situation is, are you guys mostly inside or is it both in and out? What are they doing? Well? Similar to l A And I'm sure if other listeners, uh, you guys live elsewhere.

I don't know how it works for you guys. But that expansion of the restaurant out into the street, that's huge here because there's so many like bike lanes and you know whatever bus lands or whatever that they turned into restaurant space and they're leaving them, which is cool.

It's very European because they didn't do away with it, and so it's fun to sit outside and um, yeah, I don't know, I'm just not I'm not like a New York or by like you know, I grew up on the West Coast, and so for me, it's like, why it's still fun and exciting as someone who's like hasn't lived here longer than a year, is like to go in Like each neighborhood has its own identity and its own vibe, So I'm into it. Do you know what I haven't told you? We did this past week.

This was obviously after we taped a podcast last week. Joel Santos, our producer Chris and I worked with him. Um, he's wonderful and even more so wonderful because he's just as talented, but he also deals with our shenanigans. He is working on a special project right now with Tom Rinaldi, who joined Fox Sports last year. It was kind of towards it was during playoffs actually that he joined us. They were in town and asked if Jared and I would like to meet them for dinner. Met them for dinner.

Jared had never met Tom before. So we go to dinner and it was so great. We were just saying we just wanted to be out. I wanted to talk sports because I was so done, you know, just being at home and being sad. We go out. My husband, he's obviously watched Tom Rinaldi. And for those of you who don't know Tom Rinaldi, I worked with him at ESPN. Chrissa did as well. He is the guy whenever you need to I mean, why am I meeting Tom Rinaldi after I've just been crying my brains out for two weeks?

Great question, I just thought of it now. But he is the guy on college game day, during golf, during tennis, all of it. He has just the heartfelt, thoughtful, unbelievable features that they would provide. And now we're so excited to hear with us at box. Yes, full blown, full blown tears. So you know, we were excited to go out. We started, you know, having a couple of drinks. He started. It was like Jared Stole's E three sixty? What was your hardest hit? What was the worst loss you've ever had?

Game seven against the Carolina Hurricanes was going to be his first Cup. He's really supposed up three anyways, um, and what was the moment, oh moment from the locker room after your game seven loss in the Stanley Cup finals that you remember that stands out to you. My husband was unbelievable. It was like a dating show. I learned things about his career as never knew. You know what he said, what did he remember after losing Game

seven of this only kept finals? He was only in his second year, by the way, he said, all the older guys that will never win, a cop that never did and their young kids coming in the room. Again. Of course Jared said that, yeah, God, but leave it to Naldi to ask the questions that elicit the emotional reaction. I know. And Jared was talking about how he was a second year player. He's in Game seven, they're down by a goal, it's a minute left. He's out there

to take the face off. He won the face off, and I'm like, bait, and I'm like, what happens? It was awesome. It was such a great dinner, but I felt exhausted afterwards. Emotionally, You're like, I've just been into your point. The documentary of Jared Stole's career, Oh God, what a guy Rinaldi. He does the second his voice, his voice is very much like Keith Morrison whenever I

watched the Detective shows or like the Datelines. The second you hear that voice, like you know something's going to happen. So all good. I'm glad that you were able to have a great time and you're feeling better. We have a great podcast. We'd like to believe it's a great podcast. As I mentioned, we're gonna talk all things business coming up next. We'll take a quick break and be right fast.

Welcome Baver, how now brown Cow. What I was trying to say, because I'm a professional broadcaster is welcome back everybody to the Calm Down Podcast. Did you ever take voice lessons? No? But I should, and I know America wants me to. I don't. I've listened to my voice on this podcast. Howsers. Why what do you think wrong with you? Easily? I do have a Kardashian twang. I hate listening to people in my life that are like so like It drives me crazy. I don't hear that

at all. From boy? Do I hear it? When I listen to this? You will tell you what I've learned. Oh I appreciate that, but I'll tell you what I've learned. Take a us I mean yeah, I mean Jesus, Chrissa. Let somebody else have a get a word in. Um. Well, guys, this is a calm down podcast, and I'm going to calm down about all things involving business. I have lean on my good friend Aaron, who has successful I'll say all the things and then she'll get weird and be like, Okay,

stop where no on my list. I'm learning to love myself. Oh angel face, that needs to be number one. Scott Thompson likes to say, you've got to be the president of your own fan club. So your wildly successful clothing line of Where. First of all, I love Where. And for people that don't know the when you spell out where, w E A R. The E A is in the middle of your name. Who came up with that name?

Start from the beginning? Why did you want to start where amidst everything else that you had going on in your life? I came up with that after many many

cocktails cheers. True story. So I was sitting in a hot tub with ALYSSA Green, my husband's teammate who was traded from Edmonton with him over to l A. And we were visiting our friends in Montana, and we were all kind of just sitting around and talking about, you know, side hustles, and you know, we had said there's I think then we were talking about going the season was starting back up. It was an all star break and what to wear and there's nothing to wear? And that

just always stuck with me. And you know, I had worked college game day for all those years. I had been on those college campuses on a die hard Florida Gator fan from going to school there and being forty three and trying to wear something that's either team. You saw me like a couple of weeks ago, when you came around to my house, you're You're like, what are you wearing? I was like team issuing shorts and a hoodey, I look like a five year old. You get that.

It looks great, felt great. So I just felt like there was a white space within the team apparel world that somebody like me who has a very tomboyish kind of fashion sense, somebody that wants to wear a hoodie that is actually comfortable and stylish. And basically watching my husband play, I wanted to cheer for him and where a King's gear or where a packer's gear or where Gator's gear and then be able to go to dinner

in it. I felt like the gear that was out there was specifically like if you were tailgating or you were at the arena and you're or you're like wearing a jersey. Yeah, we're not wearing Yeah. So I just felt like there was a huge white space for it. And that Super Bowl came around and I went to it.

It was in San Francisco, I think it was Super Bowl fifty and I was asked to host a women's NFL Shop event and I was going to talk XS and nose and break down the game and they actually asked me to wear the gear that was there, and I had said to my girlfriend Alyssa Green, I was just like, how am I going to wear this? Like,

I don't even like this? So it was then and there. Afterwards, I went to dinner with a couple of people from my management team and we sat there and we started drawing it out and started talking about it and what could be the possibility. And we were at one of those tables is that you could write on, and I just grabbed a pen and I was messing around with my name and I said where and then you could, you know, do different we are and all that kind

of stuff. We took a picture of it and one of the girls that was at the table with us, her name's choral. She works for Smack Entertainment. She took a picture of it, you know, got it framed for me, so so I kind of went from there. But that's why, that's why I wanted to do it. I really felt there was a white space. But man, it took freaking forever. It took about five to six years for anyone to

listen anything. That is, if you're the foremost authority, which you are as a female broadcaster in the space, why do you think if it was even that difficult for you to be heard? Why is that? Why are there's so many hurdles on your way to you know, a branding or whatever whatever the item or businesses. I think a couple of things. One people wanted to know if

I would really get behind it. That's a big thing I've noticed when you're doing you know, when you're pushing a product, when you're pushing a company, when you're pushing an idea. We know you have a busy schedule. Aaron and christ how much are you really going to back it? That's what they asked us when we wanted to do

this podcast. That was something that they brought up. Okay, but how much work are you really going to put into it right, um, you know, and you say I'm gonna put so much work into it, It's gonna be my baby, It's gonna be my heart and soul. People don't really believe it. Also, this has been tried before. I was told that a lot, but for some reason. And listen the fans Mike mulbile Hill. The fans are

right down the middle. They are female and men. It is especially in the NFL, especially in Major League Baseball. So females really hadn't been catered to. That was something we were hearing a lot. And then they were just saying to us, Yeah, we know, we need to cater to our females. We just we kind of nothing had really worked, I mean had done. What's that are you meeting with the league? Like, what's that first meeting that you take. We did meet with the league. We actually

met with people that had the actual license. First. We we met with a group that was already producing for the NFL and we met with them and we you know, getting in the door was kind of hard, and then you got to come up with a proposal, and then you got to come up with a present presentation that a proposal and money. Well, yeah, and then they have to go to the league, and then you have to meet who they want to design it and style it.

And then it just never went anywhere, and it was kind of like dating somebody that you liked them and and sometimes they liked you and sometimes they didn't. I was just kind of getting led on for a couple of years, and finally I was like, this isn't working, This isn't working. We went another route to a manufacturer who had a license and was with the NFL, and we got really, really really close. Then they had a whole organizational change and the person who loved it, who

was at the top, was gone. So then it kind of fell flat on its face. And I'll be honest with you. I mean my manager, who is my partner with this whole thing, Conscience Shorts Marine, she works with Michael strayhand with Smack. I mean, we had our ups and downs. We had a lot of fights about this because when it was kind of dead and there was no heartbeat, I was still like, let's go, let's go, let's go. And she's done a lot, obviously was Stray's

line and working with the NFL. She's like, dude, when it's right, it will come. And I got sensitive about it and it really taught me how to work with her and how to work with other people because it's like, it's got to be the right time. And finally was it Houston, the New England Atlanta super Bowl? We had it in Houston. Fanatics was having a super Bowl party. Mike Gruben was having a party and Constant said to me, let's just go to the party. I was like, I

have a production meeting. She's like, great, You'll be there for ten minutes and then get to your production meeting on time for the super Bowl the next two days. Side note. So yeah, run into the party. You know, there's all these celebrities there. Everybody's getting down. My husband's like going from buffet to buffet. I'm like, come on, I gotta meet Michael Reuben, Wizard of All, you know.

I walked up to him, I introduced myself and I just said, hey, I'm Aaron Andrews, and when the super Bowl is all over, please just give me ten minutes, I'll fly myself to New York. I have a huge idea for a female clothing line. He had told me, I've heard it all before. I've heard it all before, That's what he said. Yeah, And he's like, yeah, you know, well we'll figure it out. We'll figure it out. Get a drink, and you know he had heard it all before.

Long story short, I flew myself to New York a couple of months later, after I've done hounding constants, and away we went. And it went really really fast my first year. Why do you think it changed? Why do you what? What did you do? What changed? His? Good questions? Like why did he change his mind? I sat in front of him in this meeting and I basically as I either said, like diarrhea of the mouth or puke of the mouth. I just kind of showed him my excitement.

I just kind of went after it. I just puked on the table and said, this is what I want, this is what I can do. This is the power of smack, this is the power of what I can do. Like, let us try this, let us try this, and I don't remember. I think they thought about it for a minute and then it got harder. From there. He paired us with a man, a facturer that didn't work, and they weren't interested. And finally one day I just called him.

I was actually laying on this couch behind me, and I'm so frustrated and I called him and I just I think I started crying. I was like, I know, we're so close to something, and it's like Julie Roberts, I have all of this and no one, no one will help me, and I have addressed for dinner tonight tonight. He called it a favor to a manufacturer, and away we went. And from there, gosh, we could write a book about it, and still could. But yeah, it's just and I'll tell you this and then I want to

get onto your route and we can go back and forth. Um, Ali, what is Ali loves or it's not Ali Love, that's Peloton. What's Ali's last name? From dry Bar? I know Ryan's locating up right now. Yeah, I I know I might feel bad. I'm blanking. I'm so, I'm I'm blaming my forgiveness and grief mind right now. I wish I could help you. The creator of dry Bar, I Ali Webb.

Thank you, Ryan, love you, um Ryan, our producer. I saw her she was getting her hair done when I was getting my hair done with Justina Anderson one day, and this was before we had signed a deal. This was before anyone was listening. And I told her about this, and I just said, look, I have this idea. And I said, how did you do it? How did you break down the door from dry Bar? How did you do all this? And she said it was exactly like you.

I would sit in boardroom after boardroom and tell them of this idea of dry bar I had, and all these men would look back at me and say, that sounds like a hair salon. There's already a lot of those. Why do we need this? And she said Finally, one day somebody gave me my shot, and my friend Justin Anderson, who's a hairstyle said, and how much money do you have in your bank account now? Because she well, I've

got her products. I mean, I'm glad no her first name. Now, I've never met her, but I used all the dry Bar products, for the dry shampoos and for all the other things. So yeah, all it takes is that one. And for you, it just sounds like that honest conversation that you had in order for everyone to feel like, Okay, you're passionate about this. Exactly exactly. But her message was if you believe in it, if you know it's gonna work.

Keep knocking those doors down. And look, I mean we've had a lot of Heisman's put in our face, a lot of you know, hands to the face man, not so much. We still are, we still are fighting the fight. But that's because we believe in the products so much. We believe in the reach that we have. And there's been a lot of nasty things said along the way, but I kind of use those as my Aaron Rodgers chips on my shoulder. You know, I'll always remember them. They feel my fire. I'm not going to keep them

in my liver though I know you're not. You're not, No, I'm not, because you know what happens. It comes out as cystic acne right here. And so I just got one of those this morning, and I um, I was so excited. I got it out very easily. Normally, you know the jawline. That's an excessive amount of chest asterone I'm told weird. But anyways, it's hard, it's hard to get them going. But believe in yourself. Keep knocking those doors down, and you know, you have to believe that

it's going to happen. But don't give up. Don't give up. Let's go to House and home and then we and keep this going. What made you want to do this? And don't say you were bored. You have a talent for this. Well, I very much appreciate that. And your endorsement means a lot, and I know your space means a lot. I mean, you've let me come into the aforementioned warehouse and a house that you built with this amazing clothing line to you know, sort of literally house

your business. So you've allowed me to come in there and do a little bit here and there. In terms of design, the impetus of house and Home for me was based around the idea that I've always believed. And this is whether I lived in a dorm room or I lived in my shitty one bedroom apartment or my first house I ever bought. I always believed that your space is your sanctuary. And so no matter how much money you do or you don't have, you should love where you live and you should be proud to open

the door and who's ever coming over. You shouldn't have to make an excuse of like, oh, sorry but this isn't or sorry but this isn't this. So for me, it was no matter where I lived. I I never got my deposits back in any places I lived because I was always painting the walls. I was like hanging pictures. I was doing all the things. But I really do believe that your home is your sanctuary and with like to drown out all the exterior noise when you walk

in the door, you have to love the space. So during COVID, you know, I was thinking about different ways, and everyone was in their home and not allowed to go anywhere else. So this idea that I always had to do a virtual design company kind of came to be. And I'm very much like you, like once I get

something in my head, like there's no stopping us. Um now, sure there's a lot of stop signs along the way, but if someone wasn't going to help me or you know, I originally was going to do this with somebody else, and I gave her till midnight to decide if she was going to do it. She twelve oh one came, she hadn't responded. I wrote her message. I said we're done here, and I just think for you, Yeah, it

ended up being such a huge blessing. But that's the thing, like from me and I would say to anyone listening that's thinking about starting a company, or you know, even just an idea that they have about a product, anything. Just keep going. Look, House and Home is very new, and it's literally like in utero, as I like to say, it's like it doesn't even spawned into its infancy yet. There's so many things I want to do with it.

But first and foremost, I appreciate people like yourself, not just because we're friends, but like believing in you know, having something outside of sports that we love to do. I heard, actually Kim Kardashian talked about this the other day. She was doing some interview, and everyone's always like all the Kardashians, like we have to stop that. They have been relevant for twenty years. So I don't want to hear that it's like, oh, it's just a reality show

or she just had a sex tape. Like there's been twenty years of equity and business led by Chris Jenner that has proven that these women can sell ship and there's no coincidence that Kylie whatever you think of whatever, is a billionaire and that Kim and even getting her law degree, like you can be She was giving a talk and she said something about somebody had messaged her and said like stay in your lane, and how it was so motivating for her because it was very similar

to you know, the phrase to shut up and dribble, Like athletes are just supposed to be athletes, they can't be anything more. And so anyways, the tangent here is wh where it's starting a company, like where or from me with House and Home. I believe in being multifaceted, and I really really admire the business side of things. I definitely don't know as much as I want to know.

How could we We didn't go to school for that. No. I bought a book the other day how to Start a company, actually said how to start a business or something, and I put it in in the office. I mean like, all right, I'm gonna figure this out as I go. But I also didn't go to school to be a broadcaster.

You know. I've figured that out with internships. So for anyone listening or cares to know about an entrepreneurial start, I would say, if you have an idea like you did with where or if I did with House and Home, believe in it and work your ass off. That's the part where I am like the emails or the inquiries or things like that, or crying half the time because

I just want my clients to be happy. I think it has to come from a genuine place of desire to want to keep doing and juggling right of like prioritizing your life. So yeah, it's been really fun. I'm really I'm really motivated by the potential of what this can be. So yeah, what's here's my tom or Naldi voice. What Harissa, what's been your biggest struggle so far with the house and home? Thank you. That's a great question, Aaron. It's the lack of time, I think. And I'm not

very good at delegating because I will pass off. I have a couple wonderful employees and i'll pass in. Some stuff I do pass off, like the administrative stuff, like I'm not good at sitting on the phone with CB two and returning a vase that's broken for three hours. I'm just not good at it. But I'm good with

that with my own clothes, I mean, right. But it's this control that I want to have because I do want it to be right, and I want to um as the face like the company, and like the company is my own I think I have to learn to relinquish some control and trust that other people can execute it as well. So I'm learning to do that. But again, like I said, this is so new that hopefully that

comes over time. And um, you know, one of the many reasons we wanted to start this podcast was to talk to you know, other women that have done this, Whitney Herd or now hopefully we can maybe get Ali web on here, but to just hear their stories and it doesn't have to just be women, of course, like men that have been very successful in their entrepreneurial space. I was actually reading today about Jeff bezos is announcement

that he's going to space with his company. Um, like, here's a guy that just dominated Amazon, created the greatest company probably that history will say it was ever invented, and now here he is going to space with his other companies. So talk about reinvention. I mean, it's just a guy that continues to not just stay in his lane. I mean, this guy's going to space and he's like, you know what, I'm not only going to start a space company, but I'm gonna be the first person in

the spaceship. So that's crazy. But um, yeah, I don't know. Are you enjoying the process of where or is it create more frustrations than joy. That's exactly what I was just about to ask you. What has brought you joy with house and home? Um? Yeah, no does. It's a lot. And I think it's because in this hey good problems to have. It's moving so fast right now and we have to give up. Sorry, I don't want to interrupt you. You You have all the leagues except baseball, right we're

just waiting from MLB, which is amazing. It's amazing and you think that, oh, you have all the leagues, but then you're like, but wait, there's how many teams in each league? Right? And we want each team to feel special, and we want each league to feel special. And we, by the way, are a very small company that is trying to make this work. And I think, what, Yes, I do have a lot of joy. It's very cool. I need to part of on my checklist. One of the things I need to step back and do is

actually enjoy what you've done. But I do believe what has made me so successful is I don't stop now. Sometimes that could really hurt you when you need to. I eat the last two weeks, but um, yeah, I do. I just I know that we can be better. I also have a lot of fear that when foot all begins, my focus and my energy and my time goes to my job that pays the bills and my true love. And the reason why I'm allowed to have whear is

because of my NFL broadcasting career. So I just like little potholes that I, you know, fell into two seconds before we started recording this podcast. I don't know why that happened, and I'm confused why it happened, and we need to find out so we're well oiled when I get going in three week months for the NFL season. But it's so much learning, you know, it just really is. And that's why I asked Kevin Hart one time, and I'm curious with straight to who's a friend of ours?

Just the thoughts in your head? How do you just calm them down? You know? Like I just I feel like I'm always making to do list because I have so many things to check up on. You're a really good to do list person, and you're handwriting is so good like my to do look at itself like scribble. You're very very good penmanship. And list. But I was as you were talking, I was thinking about Bill Belichick's voice in my head and it was do your job, right.

I remember working out um what Rando Cincinnati. No, I'm just joking, No, No, I was thinking about got it um, Randy Moss when I used to work with Randy Moss, and I was like, what was it like playing for Bill Belichick? And he was like, it's exactly what you think. That everyone just like his whole model. It's whether it's on their Super Bowl rings of do your job. If you're the wide receiver, just run the route. You're the quarterback,

distribute the ball. If you're the running back, run the ball. If you work in the kitchen and the cafeteria, you don't need to weigh in on what plays we should be calling on the on the sideline. Do your job. And so I think that in business there's the aspect of delegation going. Hearing myself talk about relinquishing some of that control. Is that if it is someone's job to do whatever in your company and they don't do it, then there's you know, then call them out, then you know,

asked them to be better. Things like that. I remember my dad telling me a story about management, right, that is, you have to do the things that even if you don't want to do them, you're as the owner of the company, you'll have to do. My dad owned the car dealerships and all the all the sales salespeople were like huddled around, and he's like, why are these guys not selling cars? What's going on? So he walks outside

and he goes, what the hell's going on here? And they're like, oh, I forget the guy Steve's phone fell in the bathroom. He took a ship, and now the phones in the in the toilet and they don't know how to get it out. My dad goes, what the fun He goes in, he puts his hand in the toilet, takes the cell phone out, grows it at the guy, gross washes his hand. He goes, now, sell some fucking cars. And it was this idea of like, if it's yours,

I don't want to hear what's happening. I don't want to hear excuses, get the phone, wash your hands, sell some cars. So I think that hopefully, um, I know, I think about this as my company hopefully continues to grow and yours grows even further that it's delegation. It's allowing other people to do their job, and when they don't, you're gonna get called out for it, because you're the person who will call yourself out if you're not doing

it right. If you don't show it for a game and you don't have you don't throw Joe and Troy I throw it down to you at halftime and you're not there. You can't be like, well, you know, I got stuck in the elevator and like that was so weird. Yeah, guess what. You need to be on the sideline for

your hit and do your job. So anyways, I am just super excited to hopefully have this podcast as a platform to talk to other entrepreneurs and people who have been wildly successful in their respective spaces so we can be motivated and learn and hopefully grow our own company. Before you wrap up, I want to do House and Home some justice here. Why don't you tell people exactly what it is so if they're interested, I love you, they could make you have even than your aunts. Yea,

I love you so much, Thank you so much. The House and Home is a virtual design company can also be in home if you are in whatever respective city I mean at the time, whether that's Los Angeles or uh, New York, Nashville exactly. So the idea being is I can design your space from anywhere. You send me floor plans, measurements, inspiration photos, and then with things like Amazon and Target and all these delivery services, I can design your space

from afar. So the conceit of that was during COVID, I wasn't allowed to be at anyone's home, but then realized that that model does actually work. And if you want affordable design, because that's the other thing is interior design services are very, very expensive, and a lot of designers mark up all their stuff. I'm not interested in

doing that. I want you to just have a beautiful home, pay a set price, and then ensure that you can have access to a home that maybe you never thought you would have had, and you want people to come over and you feel proud of your space, whether you have a little or a lot of money. So how interested is Jared Stolen in interior designers markup, especially on

salt and pepper shakers. I mean this guy, when I went into where and I was doing a little space in there, your husband was so incredible he was picking up. He goes, how much is this? How much is I just love him so much. He is the king of a checklist. He had a checklist and he was like going through all the items. What a guy that Jared. Yeah, what a true We're gonna pay some bills so hopefully we can continue to do this podcast for a long time. We will be back with more Calm Down podcast right

after this. I'm a chain one of my favorite lines from Steel Magnolias. As we welcome you back to the Calm Down Podcast. That's when Dolly Parton's hair salon, she becomes a chain. I think that goes very well with our discussion talking ab outside hustles. I will be honest, I haven't been great about the i G. I'm going to get back on it, but you should check out the Calm Down Podcast on Instagram. Tampa Bay Lightning. They're crushing it. But I'm not going to talk about them

anymore on Calm Down Podcast. Someone you know, it's k Perustition didn't help you with your betting. It didn't keep putting in your d m s because I'm reading them all. I read them all. The other day we put a question out there or ask people to ask us questions about our side hustle, and we have them now, Lady, we sure do so, which we appreciate by the way you guys asking questions, because look, this is a podcast for everyone. First question we got was this is from

Meg's oh way O eight. Thank you, Megan. How do you bucket slash organize your time when having multiple businesses slash side hustles. I think that's a great one for you, Aaron, who has seventy five jobs. I probably you know what. I don't do it well. I don't do it well right now. When I don't have conference calls with teams to get to, or planes to get to, or games to get to, I feel like my days go faster now. I feel like when it's game day or game week,

I do a better job of organizing it. But obviously, for me, first listen, Fox is my priority. I know I have to deal with where, and I have to deal with other things that I have going on in my life, but they fit in. I look to see where, you know my schedule, what it's going to be like

that week when I'm traveling. You know when our ofference calls are going to be and then we try to fit everything in from there, a lot of text messages, a lot of like calls where you try to fit in everything at once so you don't have calls throughout the day with where and everything like that. You just have to be really, really smart. And then by the way, you have to deal with having a family and a

home and a husband. And when it's making them phone down, I was just gonna say, and not making them feel like they're last on the totem pole. When I think you and I do this, I know that when it is especially for you and you have two games during the week, you are very honest with Jared about maybe where he falls on the priority list, and he's like, but like, he's also really awesome about understanding that's your busy time, right, So when it is the off season,

you make a point or a concerted effort. I'm like talking to you, I'm like, where are you at? You like, I'm going to go stru because I'm gonna make dinner and I'm gonna be a good wife. And half the weekend I put my phone on airplane mode so I could ensure that I was being an active listener. When Kyle was talking or doing something so that it's good.

So it's just prioritizing. And then since we do work technically, seasonally, you much more than I do, as my responsibilities are only one day a week, So yeah, seasonal prioritizing for Miss andrews Um. Next question comes to us from she says, working for six years and I hate everything about my job. Is this normal? Or do I start a side hustle? What do you think? I think before you start a side hustle, you should worry about making yourself happy with

your job. I know that I had said, and I forgot where I was that somebody was asking us about doing this for a living. Oh, I was doing a Sideline reporter panel last week. I just said, you have to love it, because if you don't love it, you're not going to be able to live this life. I have missed all the holidays. I've missed Christmas, I missed Thanksgiving,

I missed birthdays. I lost friends because I couldn't be in their weddings because they wanted me to be a bridesmaid week and that Alabama ls you got, you know, was playing like who gets married? When du Carolina plays? That's your freaking problem. You're mine. I'm working it. You know. By the way, Coach k love you great. He was

always the best to deal with um anyways. But yeah, you you have to love it, so I would say, and I know, my olive oil drinking self would say, Julia, you gotta figure out what's going to make you happy with this job before you do a side hustle, because that's a lot of work. And if you're not happy with your real job, well, I don't know about bringing more in. What do you think about that? I mean, apparently I'm a therapist, you know. Well, hey, I'll sit

on your couch any day, sister. And I'm just looking at my olive oil that I'm buying after I get off. Where are we buying that olive oil? I need it? On her site? I think on the Instagram. Yeah, that peppery taste to it. You've really ignited a flame in me to to take care of myself from the inside out. Okay, So I would say to Julia this, I get you have to pay your bills. So I think the best time to look for a job, sister, is when you have one. So if you say to yourself, okay, I

don't like my job. But I know that I'm using this job to get to the next job. Then maybe that can keep you motivated to keep going to that job with a good attitude, because in the back of your mind, when your boss is being an asshole or anything, you'd be like, I'm fucking leaving this company anyways, I

hate you so much, thank you for my paycheck. So I would say stay in your job, but informulate a plan to get out of it, because sometimes this haphazard thing of like fuck it, I'm just gonna quit my job, and then now you're depressed because you can't pay your bills. So being responsible, have a game plan while you still have a job. And going back to what Aaron has talked about and I've talked about, is that what is your passion outside of sports? By passion is home renovation.

So build a company or build an idea around something you're genuinely passionate about and be patient with it. But you still got to pay your bills. Um. Next question comes to us from Ashley twitch Shell, who is so sweet. I actually love this question. She said, how to be confident while talking to a new customer while being genuine

and likable. So I'll start with this one. You just because I have like, yeah, I don't yeah, I feel yeah like commerce, but that um, that idea of I genuinely want to make them happy, So it's not hard for me to want to be kind to them. Um do I get frustrated sometimes when a client will say I want this, this, this, and this, and then I give them this, this, this, this and this and then they go, you know what, I don't like that, and

I go, now, I got to redo it all. But ultimately, as someone who's worked in retail a lot in my life and I worked at Orchestram's, the customer is always right, and I want those people to keep coming back and I want them to tell their next three friends that, hey, you know what, I was a pain. I changed my mind, but Charissa was so patient, and so I'm willing to take the hits on the front end of this thing and know that it's a lot more work for me.

But my reputee Ashner House and homes reputation um is far superior to the annoyances in my opinion. So um, yeah, I deal with clients more directly, but I know that like when someone tags wear in a picture, they're wearing a sweatshirt or you know all that stuff, Like, doesn't that make you feel proud? You know, that's like your product is on someone's back or in their drawer or purchased by them, you know, oh my gosh. Yeah. And and just the fact that they would even look us

up and then put their credit card number down to bias. Yes, it's all very like it's an emotional experience for me. And they're so excited to tag me on their Instagram, so I'll put it up, which I love doing, and it's really cool. I think. One of the couple of pinched me cry moments I've had was one of the Hunt daughters wearing a Chiefs sweater at the owner of the Chiefs Bills. Yeah, the owner of the Chiefs after they beat the Bills in the a f C Championship.

She's like in the confetti doing you know, snow angels and she's holding you know, the trophy and she was saying her wear sweater was good lack. I mean, I like that. And then Camille, we love Camille Um. Rob Gronkowski's girlfriend was doing star jumps good luck star jumps into a beanie bag as she was watching I think it was like the New Orleans It was yeah, yeah, and she had her tight eye shirt on and she just couldn't be cuter and sweeter with all of that.

And um, I was where I think, I know you know this. I was working a it was our last game of the year regular season. It was Giants and Giants Cowboys, and um, I was doing a stand up and I got a FaceTime or I got a call and I just put it on mute. I was like, I don't have time for this. It was Giselle face timing me in one of our Bucks shirts, and I was like, if I missed it, But she took a picture of her face timing me, so that was pretty fabulous too. Yes, all those things are pinched me moments.

And while we don't deal with the customer directly, when they show us that they're wearing our stuff, it does mean a lot to our team. And I know that it makes it a lot easier when you get emails or text messages when things go wrong, to remember why you're doing it in the first place. Sure, and it always happens right. You have to deal with all these kind of like struggles and conflicts to make the company better.

So um yeah, it's just sometimes it's like why why did this happen with anyone going to look into this? Or did I need to do this? Um? So yeah, but delegation. Yes, well a few things as we wrap up here, I you know, evidenced by the questions that we got um there, and there's some more we just start out of time. But I love getting questions from you guys. I know Aaron feels the same, and so whatever you guys ask us kind of dictates what we'll

talk about. So don't forget d M Instagram account. And then also, um, if you have any specific questions as it pertains to business. Again, I'm a nubie in this space. Aeron's further down the line, but we'll both keep kicking the can and we'll be here for you guys every single week. This has calmed down podcast. Aaron, I'm gonna say this, drink your juice, Shelby, and by that, I mean you're alive, Oil, I love you, and I'm happy to keep smiling. We've been juicing too in our house

as well. We're doing green juice all of the thing. Can you see that green juice on that table there? It is. Have a question, how do you make it not so clumpy? Like we're do we add more water? It's very clumpy. You need that better juicer. It's all about Max. Oh okay, well we'll talk about that and anyone that's listening. If you've got great juice recipes, send them to Aaron right now. We're gonna work. We do like two cups of water. It's so really clumpy, so

I keep adding more. Let take off the vitamins and minerals. Does it no? But I'd also add lemon lemon juice. I can say if you don't want to keep deluding it with water, necessarily like put in something that doesn't have a lot of sugar, which is like you know, all the other juices. Sometimes a good face like an almond mounk. We're all at a time. We'll be back with more juice recipes. But why I wish you? Um? Is it really clumpy? It's all frothing at the top.

And then I keep adding water and we're stirring it the whole thing. Um, And I send you he resting Calm Down with Aaron and Carissa is a production of I Heart Radio for more Podcasts for My heart Radio, visit the I heart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast